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Who_s to blame for the government shutdown · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: And I want to bring in our let signs to
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  Speaker 1: join us are let what are the facts here? And
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  Speaker 1: what are Democrats saying to this?
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  Speaker 2: Well, really, right now, what we are hearing from both
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  Speaker 2: Speaker Mike Johnson and Democratic leadership is them engaging in
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  Speaker 2: this messaging war over who is to blame for this
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  Speaker 2: current shutdown. What Republicans are arguing is that they believe
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  Speaker 2: that any negotiations about extending those expiring Obamacare subsidies, which
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  Speaker 2: is really central to democratics arguments and demands, that those
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  Speaker 2: discussions can't happen until the government is reopened. And as
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  Speaker 2: a Speaker Johnson pointed out, they believe that this is
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  Speaker 2: an issue that can be handled a little bit later
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  Speaker 2: down the road. Those subsidies are set to expire on
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  Speaker 2: December thirty first, at the end of the year. So
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  Speaker 2: what Republicans like Speaker Johnson are arguing is Democrats need
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  Speaker 2: to reopen the government and allow the work to continue
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  Speaker 2: to negotiate for actual negotiations to begin about how to
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  Speaker 2: extend or possibly reform those enhanced Obamacare subsidies. But Democrats, meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: are arguing that those conversations need to happen right now,
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  Speaker 2: and that is because Americans this very month will start
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  Speaker 2: to receive notice of how much their healthcare premiums are
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  Speaker 2: going to increase if those Obamacare subsidies are not extended.
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  Speaker 2: So they want to make sure that Americans are able
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  Speaker 2: to factor in what their healthcare will look like. Democrats
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  Speaker 2: want to see those extended permanently. Republicans some have said
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  Speaker 2: that they want to see an extension. Some want some
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  Speaker 2: reforms to the program. But that's really at the heart
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  Speaker 2: of the debate right now, as both sides remain locked
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  Speaker 2: in with no negotiations in sight for how to end
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  Speaker 2: this shutdown.
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  Speaker 1: All right, our lot signs, thank you so much. I
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  Speaker 1: want to bring in our seeing and chief data analyst,
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  Speaker 1: Harry Inton, to look at the polling and this blame
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  Speaker 1: give I mean, you're hearing these messaging wars, right, Harry,
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  Speaker 1: walk us through what the numbers are saying about who
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  Speaker 1: Americans are blaming right now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just saw the speaker up there trying to
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  Speaker 3: place the blame on Democrats.
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  Speaker 4: But I got to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 3: You look at the polling data and they simply put
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  Speaker 3: not buying Speaker Johnson's arguments. What are we talking about? Well,
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  Speaker 3: why don't we just look blame more for the twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty five shutdown. Normally, when you see Republican on the screen,
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  Speaker 3: that's a good thing because they're leading. But in this case,
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  Speaker 3: it's a bad thing because more Americans are blaming them
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  Speaker 3: for the shutdown. And you can see it's a sweep
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  Speaker 3: across the board. You look at the New York Times
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  Speaker 3: poll blame Republicans more by seven points. How about the
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  Speaker 3: CBS poll came out yesterday, blame Republicans more by nine points.
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  Speaker 3: How about the Maris University poll blame Republicans more by
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  Speaker 3: twelve points. And then the Washington Post poll takes the cake,
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  Speaker 3: blaming Republicans more by seventeen points. You average it all together,
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  Speaker 3: and we're talking about a double digit margin in which
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  Speaker 3: more Americans are blaming the Republicans than the Democrats. Now,
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  Speaker 3: perhaps that shouldn't be so surprising to students of history. Why,
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  Speaker 3: because we've had a number of shutdowns in the past,
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  Speaker 3: and which party almost always are basically always seems to
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  Speaker 3: get blamed. It's the Republican party that always seems to
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  Speaker 3: get blamed. Whether it's the ninety five, ninety six shutdowns,
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  Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, are the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen shutdowns. And
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  Speaker 3: more importantly, what I think is so important is we
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  Speaker 3: are still at the beginning of this shutdown. Right What
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  Speaker 3: happens right now in the polling may not necessarily hold
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  Speaker 3: going forward, But historically speaking, what we've actually seen is
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  Speaker 3: that the party that gets blamed at the start of
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  Speaker 3: the shutdowns ninety five, ninety six, twenty thirteen, twenty eighteen,
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  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen is the same party that gets blamed by
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  Speaker 3: the end of the shutdown. So at this point, more
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  Speaker 3: Americans are blaming the Republicans than the Democrats, and historically speaking,
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  Speaker 3: that margin, those margins have tended to hold.
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  Speaker 1: H That's interesting. So how many Americans dislike both sides? Here?
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  Speaker 1: You show the Republican side that right now Americans are
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  Speaker 1: blaming Republicans, But overall.
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  Speaker 4: What about both sides? Yeah? Okay, so you know we're talking.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we saw the margins you know right here
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  Speaker 3: where more folks are blaming Republicans than Democrats.
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  Speaker 4: But of course, what about people who don't like either side? Right?
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  Speaker 4: What about this? So blame more for the shutdown?
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  Speaker 3: Look, you got Republicans at thirty nine percent, Democrats at
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  Speaker 3: twenty seve percent, but both sides equally.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: A third of the American people, basically thirty percent on
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  Speaker 3: the average pole, who are blaming both sides equally. So
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  Speaker 3: this is not a case in which the American public
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  Speaker 3: is loving the arguments that Democrats are putting forward. It's
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  Speaker 3: more that they hate the Republicans more. And if given
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  Speaker 3: the choice, what we're really talking about is a majority
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  Speaker 3: of the or a large portion of the American public
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  Speaker 3: who don't like really either side in this situation. So
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  Speaker 3: the American people, I think, kind of just feel like
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  Speaker 3: losers in this situation.
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  Speaker 1: Is there any indication why Americans are more likely to
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  Speaker 1: be Republicans for a shutdown even if historically you showed
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  Speaker 1: them those numbers, it hasn't always been the Republicans in charge,
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  Speaker 1: but yet they still get the blame.
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  Speaker 4: Any indication law.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I think what's so important to recognize here
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  Speaker 3: is that, look, historically speaking, Republicans get the blame.
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  Speaker 4: But also, what are we talking about.
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  Speaker 3: I think at this particular point, we're seeing who is
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  Speaker 3: instigating the shutdown and whether or not this thing is
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  Speaker 3: really going to last for a long period of time.
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  Speaker 3: And what I'll just say in this situation, one Americans
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  Speaker 3: want pre shutdown.
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  Speaker 4: What we're talking.
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  Speaker 3: About is forty nine percent now in twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 3: say they want their site to stand on principle. So
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  Speaker 3: we really have both sides locked in versus Historically people
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  Speaker 3: want compromise, but now we're really split. So I expect
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  Speaker 3: this thing to just go on and on and.
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  Speaker 1: On, and as a result, you have federal workers who
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  Speaker 1: won't potentially get their paychecks and this could really impact Americans.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, Harrington, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you