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Jaguars Happy Hour: Wednesday, December 11 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Touchdown. That's five
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Speaker 1: James George Spitt rushing touchdown of the Jaguars lead Eagle seven.
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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, December eleven. This is Jackuars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by the Fields
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Speaker 1: We've got a program for you today. Here's what's gonna
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Speaker 1: be on it. The Jags in the Raiders preview coming
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Speaker 1: up that game Sunday at the Oakland, Alameda County Coliseum
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Speaker 1: or Ring Central Coliseum as it's called now Raincenter. Players
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Speaker 1: to watch, will pick them uniform unveiling. Jimmy Luck will
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Speaker 1: show what the Jags will wear in that game. Chris
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Speaker 1: Connley scheduled to join us. We could have a little
1:12
Speaker 1: bit of a jumbled show today. I don't know how
1:15
Speaker 1: different that would be, but the timing might be different
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Speaker 1: than you're used to. Chris might be in a little
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Speaker 1: early today. Jimmy might be a little later, little earlier.
1:24
Speaker 1: We just we're just gonna fly by the seat of
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Speaker 1: our pants today. John, that's what's gonna happen. Well, Phil,
1:29
Speaker 1: right at huh, let's get right to it today. Head
1:32
Speaker 1: coach Doug Maron speaking with the media. And it's that
1:36
Speaker 1: time of year. Obviously, the Jags have dropped five straight.
1:38
Speaker 1: They haven't been close in those games. There are three
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Speaker 1: games to go. There's still a lot left for this
1:43
Speaker 1: team and for each individual. According to head coach Doug Maron,
1:47
Speaker 1: there really every we're all fighting for our jobs, you know,
1:50
Speaker 1: And I think when you when you look at it,
1:52
Speaker 1: you know, from that standpoint, you know, each person has
1:54
Speaker 1: to make their own decision on how to handle those things.
1:56
Speaker 1: But the leak has shown to the past that what
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Speaker 1: happens is and I told the players, I mean a
2:01
Speaker 1: lot of times when you know you're gonna look at
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Speaker 1: film on players, whether they're on your team or you're
2:07
Speaker 1: looking to acquire them, you're gonna look to see how
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Speaker 1: they're playing in December, you know, that's one of the
2:11
Speaker 1: main things that you look at, you know, especially when
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Speaker 1: a team is not performing. And so that's that's where
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Speaker 1: this team is right now we're talking about looking at
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Speaker 1: tape and playing for the name on the back of
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Speaker 1: the jersey and for the future in the NFL. That
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Speaker 1: that's really what this is about. The last three weeks
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Speaker 1: of the season. Now, yeah, you're talking about professionalism and
2:31
Speaker 1: uh yeah, there is a reality that sometimes, uh when
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Speaker 1: you're watching it. I remember when I was a fan
2:39
Speaker 1: back in the day and following different teams. I you're
2:44
Speaker 1: on your team to win, and when they're not in it,
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Speaker 1: you sort of check out a little bit as a fan.
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Speaker 1: But it's easy to forget that these players. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's not Madden and just because you know it seems
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Speaker 1: like a players play forever two fans. But these players
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Speaker 1: have short rears, and there's a guys on each team
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Speaker 1: who are fighting just as much as as late in
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Speaker 1: the preseason. These guys are fighting for jobs this time
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Speaker 1: of year, and they're fighting for a chance to be
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Speaker 1: on a roster next year. Uh, they're fighting for their
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Speaker 1: reputation once they joined another team. You know, a coach
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Speaker 1: watches you on film, and GM watches you on film.
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Speaker 1: January February decides to sign us, has to bring in Well,
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Speaker 1: they remember that what they saw, so you're the perception
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Speaker 1: of you goes up a great deal. And it's what
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Speaker 1: you talked about a professionalism. When you're in your fourth
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Speaker 1: or fifth year and you're you're preparing the right way
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Speaker 1: when your team's out of in December, that holds some
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Speaker 1: water in this league. So on that level, I don't
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Speaker 1: think that's very interesting to fans because they're mad you've
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Speaker 1: lost five in a row. But to the players who
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Speaker 1: are going out there, that matters. Dug Morun also today
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Speaker 1: discussing confidence down the stretch. How do they gain in
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Speaker 1: the final three games? You know, you gain confidence by
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Speaker 1: winning games, and we're not doing that. Well, then how
4:04
Speaker 1: do you gain that confidence? Well, we gotta go back
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Speaker 1: and you know, make sure that we know exactly what
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Speaker 1: what's what's going on. Feel good about it during the week,
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Speaker 1: feel good about the plan. You know, you put it.
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Speaker 1: You put a lot of things in you know, today tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna you know, we really has a staff
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Speaker 1: and and players have to take a good look at
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Speaker 1: what we can handle and not handle, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, and take it out and live with what
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Speaker 1: we're gonna play with, you know, schematically, you know, in
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Speaker 1: the game so that's building up a game plan and
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Speaker 1: being ready for this week's game. And it's not like
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Speaker 1: they don't do that every week, but it's it seems like,
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Speaker 1: at this point, what can we really do, well, let's
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Speaker 1: go execute them that's been realistic. There's no confidence. There's
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Speaker 1: not gonna be a confidence going into this game in
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Speaker 1: terms of a body of work, in terms of momentum.
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Speaker 1: But what the coaches have to do and and Dougs
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Speaker 1: talked about a couple of times, and I thought it
4:55
Speaker 1: was interesting when he talked about it today of look,
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Speaker 1: we've got to figure out uh, and he was specifically
5:01
Speaker 1: talking about linebacker more than anything. We have to figure
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Speaker 1: out what we can put in that these guys can
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Speaker 1: do and that these guys feel remotely good about, because
5:11
Speaker 1: it's been a bunch that has, uh, you know, not
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Speaker 1: always read offense and always read keys that well, this year, um,
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Speaker 1: what can they do? What are they going to feel
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Speaker 1: good about? What can they execute? Who's going to execute
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Speaker 1: it right? And it's sounded from listening to Doug today
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Speaker 1: like they went back on on Tuesday, looked at at
5:32
Speaker 1: the Chargers game and said, you know what, we maybe
5:35
Speaker 1: tried to put in too much. Hey, stop at Largo
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Speaker 1: in this way, stop this. Let's just simplify. That's always
5:42
Speaker 1: think coaches say, simplify when you're in trouble, and boy
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Speaker 1: they're in trouble. Um, you know, get it as simple
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Speaker 1: as possible. Read this, go here, read this, go here.
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Speaker 1: Stop with the air, stop with the players out of position.
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Speaker 1: Can it happen? Yeah, we haven't seen it happen, but
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Speaker 1: that's what they continue to strive for. Get a game
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Speaker 1: plan in that the level of player that you've got,
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Speaker 1: the level of football and intelligence that you've got in
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Speaker 1: the field, can handle and that's their task. I had
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Speaker 1: a chance today to visit with Abrey Jones, Jaguar's defensive facult.
6:18
Speaker 1: He was on this program last week and there was
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Speaker 1: a quote that came after the game that was widely
6:23
Speaker 1: circulated on social media after the loss. I'll talk about
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Speaker 1: that after you talk to Abe about it. Yeah. So
6:29
Speaker 1: the quote was, if you feel like we're quitting, don't
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Speaker 1: come to the game. That's all I got to say.
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Speaker 1: That was after the game on Sunday. I asked him
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Speaker 1: about that today and if the frustration had boiled over.
6:40
Speaker 1: I mean, it's mostly frustration, you know, stuff like that
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Speaker 1: lost one. Not you never want to talk to you fans,
6:45
Speaker 1: especially not these fans because I know how much they
6:47
Speaker 1: care for us and things like that. But I mean,
6:50
Speaker 1: it's just stressful to hear people say that. People that work,
6:54
Speaker 1: they hold lives to get here to a place where
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Speaker 1: it's not easy to stay where you got proven your
7:00
Speaker 1: self day in day out, and to just think we
7:04
Speaker 1: would quit on ourselves, and we would quit on this sea.
7:06
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna sugarcoat nothing. I know what
7:08
Speaker 1: it looks like out there. There's a whole bunch of
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Speaker 1: Bsre's a whole bunch of loss people paying hard on
7:13
Speaker 1: money to come see us play, and we're giving out
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Speaker 1: this performance. I get that through and through. But I mean,
7:17
Speaker 1: don't tell no man that's I hear providing for his family,
7:20
Speaker 1: chasing his dreams, that he's quitting on himself, because that's
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Speaker 1: one thing I don't want to see none of my
7:25
Speaker 1: teammates do is quit on themselves. Things can go bad,
7:27
Speaker 1: we could be a bad team. I get that, but
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Speaker 1: there's a difference between being a bad team and being quitters.
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Speaker 1: Because you quit, you quit here, now you're gonna quit
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Speaker 1: in life. So I feel like we don't have nobody's
7:36
Speaker 1: gonna quit in life anything like that. You know, I
7:39
Speaker 1: apologize to the fans. It's probably, well not probably. I know.
7:42
Speaker 1: I've seen the mentions and stuff like that, so I
7:45
Speaker 1: know you upset. That's cool with men. You can talk
7:47
Speaker 1: about me all day, call me garbage, this and that.
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Speaker 1: I don't really care. But one thing you're not gonna
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Speaker 1: do is go on social media, look at me in
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Speaker 1: my face and tell me I'm a quitter. I don't
7:56
Speaker 1: care how bad the game is. So that's not us.
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Speaker 1: Avery Jones today in the locker room with a response
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Speaker 1: and an update from after the game on Sunday. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and when he said it, I was standing there and
8:08
Speaker 1: I kind of cringe because on Sunday, yeah, you know
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Speaker 1: the reaction when he when a player said something like that.
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Speaker 1: And often after a game and even within the course
8:18
Speaker 1: of an interview, things get said. And I don't want
8:23
Speaker 1: to use the word out of context, but maybe it
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Speaker 1: applies here. Um Abery said that as part of about
8:32
Speaker 1: nine or ten sentences that he said when asked about quitting,
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Speaker 1: and he basically said, look if if you if you
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Speaker 1: think we quit, don't come to the games. Um I
8:42
Speaker 1: didn't get the feeling when he said it that that's
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Speaker 1: what he meant. I didn't get the feeling that he
8:47
Speaker 1: was saying, you know, kiss off to the fans or
8:50
Speaker 1: whatever that meant. It was more the spirit of what
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Speaker 1: he just said. Look, you know, we're not quitting. That's
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Speaker 1: not the that's not the idea that he gets. If
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Speaker 1: anybody has had a good relationship with his fan base,
9:02
Speaker 1: it's been avery over the years. He's been here seven
9:05
Speaker 1: or eight years. You know, if if fans and I
9:09
Speaker 1: think most fans get this, who really follow it, But
9:12
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy who lived through Gus, who
9:15
Speaker 1: lived through the first year or two of Gus, who
9:18
Speaker 1: has seen this go back after they thought they had
9:20
Speaker 1: to turn the corner. He's the most tenured guy here.
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Speaker 1: If any player cares about the uniform, which a lot
9:29
Speaker 1: of players don't, they get here, they don't care about anything.
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Speaker 1: If when they care about themselves, this is a guy
9:35
Speaker 1: who's been here. I mean, he is one of the
9:37
Speaker 1: most tenure players in Jaguars history. Now not it's the
9:41
Speaker 1: seventh year and right, so he's ingrained in this. Yeah,
9:48
Speaker 1: and uh, I hope that in the long run people
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Speaker 1: don't associate that sort of one comment in a long
9:55
Speaker 1: quote with Avery, that's how social media works these days.
9:58
Speaker 1: I get it, yesf thrown back in your face, but um,
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Speaker 1: Avery Jones does not devalue this fan base. He doesn't
10:06
Speaker 1: want people to not to come to games. Uh. His
10:09
Speaker 1: point is one that I think fans sometimes miss. These
10:13
Speaker 1: players don't quit. Uh. You know, you might occasionally have
10:17
Speaker 1: one that has a bad back, but overall, these players
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Speaker 1: don't quit. They're out there they and if for no
10:25
Speaker 1: other reason than he said, they're fighting for their football careers.
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Speaker 1: This is what they do. This is what puts food
10:31
Speaker 1: on the table for their families, etcetera. All those things.
10:34
Speaker 1: So I probably didn't say it as well as Abrey
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Speaker 1: said it. But these guys don't quit. And that was
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Speaker 1: his message of say what you want about is say
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Speaker 1: we're not good, say etcetera. But don't say that we're quitting,
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Speaker 1: because that's not how these guys feel. Jacks are headed
10:49
Speaker 1: to Oakland the final game with the Colosseum. The Raiders
10:53
Speaker 1: will move to Las Vegas next year. One guy who
10:56
Speaker 1: knows the Oakland fan base and the organization well is
10:59
Speaker 1: d J. Hayden, Jaguar's cornerback the Nickel for this team
11:03
Speaker 1: his second season with the Jaguars. We know what he's
11:06
Speaker 1: been through this season, banged up a little bit, fighting through.
11:08
Speaker 1: A tough guy on this Jags defense. But what would
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Speaker 1: it mean for this Raiders fan base to play in
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Speaker 1: this final game? Well, he would know he played there
11:16
Speaker 1: four years, he's a former first round pick of the Raiders.
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Speaker 1: What would it mean for the Raiders fans? What would
11:20
Speaker 1: it mean to him as well? Oh? Man, you know,
11:22
Speaker 1: they're very upset that the team is leaving, and they're
11:26
Speaker 1: gonna want to see a good game. They're gonna want
11:28
Speaker 1: to see a good win for them. But I just
11:30
Speaker 1: hope he going there and get him a big fatass
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Speaker 1: ill there's d J. Hayden And uh that's the kind
11:36
Speaker 1: of the mentality of a lot of guys on this
11:38
Speaker 1: team and on this defense right now. Just just in
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Speaker 1: the slides somehow and go in there and wrecked the
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Speaker 1: party in Oakland will be a good way to do
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Speaker 1: it this week. Yeah. D J. Hayden's fascinating team. He
11:50
Speaker 1: came in in his first year. I remember trying and
11:53
Speaker 1: air you him off the practice field during air t
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Speaker 1: A and in retrospect, he was a guy who with
12:00
Speaker 1: will try to find his place here. He was the
12:02
Speaker 1: new guy in the secondary. There was a very tight secondary.
12:05
Speaker 1: I remember you had a c Aaron Colvin h Ramsey,
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Speaker 1: Uh boy, even a great secondary before. And I remember
12:17
Speaker 1: talking to him coming off the field. I probably talked
12:19
Speaker 1: to him for seven right minutes that day and it
12:21
Speaker 1: was like pulling teeth to get him to say anything. Well,
12:24
Speaker 1: it ain't this guy. I mean, he has been fantastic
12:27
Speaker 1: this year, you know, Eddie and fans don't care how
12:30
Speaker 1: good quote guys. He's been a good player, he's a professional. Uh,
12:35
Speaker 1: he's played well. If you have a bunch of guys
12:38
Speaker 1: like that on your team, you're in good shape. And uh.
12:41
Speaker 1: I like the fact that he's willing to admit today, Yeah,
12:45
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to going back. They gave up on
12:47
Speaker 1: me and they all feel that. But in a game
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Speaker 1: where your reputation is is what you have, he's looking
12:55
Speaker 1: forward to going back. He wants to he wants to
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Speaker 1: walk off that field and be would a point to
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Speaker 1: people in the stands, have a good time, laugh, maybe
13:02
Speaker 1: dodge a few seats and get out of there. And
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Speaker 1: I feel good about the either way. On the way home.
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Speaker 1: It's been a bad season, but for him, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: that would be a fun day in a lost season.
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Speaker 1: I think it would be for a lot of the guys.
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Speaker 1: They realized that now or not. But to go out
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Speaker 1: there in the final gonna look at, you know, down
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Speaker 1: the line if they're watching NFL football twenty years from now,
13:21
Speaker 1: I played in that last game and yeah, you know,
13:24
Speaker 1: and you're a baseball guy, He's still play there, maybe
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Speaker 1: not for long, but but they're playing to play there
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Speaker 1: next year. So yeah, this can't really be a repeat
13:37
Speaker 1: of Cleveland and where fans were because at some point
13:41
Speaker 1: the people canna be like, hey, we gotta we need
13:43
Speaker 1: uh you know, at some point we got ya. So
13:47
Speaker 1: in Cleveland it was it was really sort of a
13:49
Speaker 1: who care thing and it was every everything was over. Well,
13:53
Speaker 1: that's still gonna be a like a like a functional stadium,
13:56
Speaker 1: like the A's are packing them in either, by the way,
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Speaker 1: well there's still a competitive of like major league organization
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Speaker 1: from time to time. Yes they're good this year. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I don't not in baseball anymore.
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Speaker 1: On the screen, Um Oakland Alamy at the County Kalisseu
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Speaker 1: have opened in sixty six, and then of course the
14:15
Speaker 1: A's moved there in sixty eight from Kansas City. They
14:19
Speaker 1: shared the facility, the last one shared in the NFL.
14:23
Speaker 1: Some big time games, some history has been played in
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Speaker 1: that stadium. Of course, the last AFL Championship game from
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Speaker 1: the sixty nine season played at nineteen seventy HEIGHDI game
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Speaker 1: in sixty eight Sea of Hands, seventy four four different
14:37
Speaker 1: ANFC championship games played in that building. And we're leaving
14:40
Speaker 1: a bunch off the list here, but and it's currently
14:43
Speaker 1: since l A isn't play right now, is the fourth
14:46
Speaker 1: oldest stadium in use in the NFL. The Coliseum in L. A.
14:49
Speaker 1: Soldier Field originally opened to nine four. It was nearly
14:53
Speaker 1: totally refurbished a few years ago. Obviously lambeau Field in
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Speaker 1: fifty seven. And this maybe, well it is. I've been
15:01
Speaker 1: a This is the oldest stadium in terms of look
15:04
Speaker 1: and feel. I mean, this one doesn't feel like it's
15:06
Speaker 1: been renovated at all. Correct, DPR if you know this
15:10
Speaker 1: or not, because I don't share very much with you,
15:11
Speaker 1: because we're not close. Who are you the A's When
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Speaker 1: I was a kid Oakland A's, You know the seventy two,
15:18
Speaker 1: seventy four A's. That was my team, the whole team.
15:22
Speaker 1: I still I still have a record album Finlay's Heroes.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, so I love going to that
15:28
Speaker 1: stadium because you walk in and you actually see it's
15:30
Speaker 1: painted like they used to have and you've been you know,
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Speaker 1: and uh yeah, the A's memorabiliap. So it's it's really
15:37
Speaker 1: cool as a kid who grew up around that. Now,
15:41
Speaker 1: if I was a player wanted to play in it.
15:43
Speaker 1: I guess it's so cool for the raider, you know,
15:46
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But it is an anticated old stadium. Uh,
15:50
Speaker 1: and the NFL can't really afford to play in places
15:53
Speaker 1: like that anymore, unfortunately. But it's it's neat for the
15:56
Speaker 1: lore of it. So and it's gonna be gone at least, right.
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Speaker 1: What's that? Are they still the last team to win
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Speaker 1: three straight a's. Yeah, yeah, the Yankees do it during
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Speaker 1: the one three out of four that was in the nineties.
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Speaker 1: I have to go look, I don't know, well, keep
16:13
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Speaker 1: JP Shadick, John Osier, the Jags and the Oakland Raiders
18:49
Speaker 1: coming up Sunday in Oakland, California. Final game ever at
18:53
Speaker 1: the Coliseum. Should be a rowdy crowd. Our research on
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Speaker 1: the Google machine, we had some baseball questions since you
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Speaker 1: were in Oakland. A's fanatic that they were. They were
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Speaker 1: the last team to win three consecutive seventy two, three
19:07
Speaker 1: and four World Series. The Yankees won three out of
19:10
Speaker 1: four in the late nights. Yeah, yeah, good for you.
19:14
Speaker 1: Um so that Yeah, the history of that stadium obviously,
19:17
Speaker 1: and and everything that, all the great Raiders games, NFL films,
19:21
Speaker 1: and all the great games that were played in that facility.
19:24
Speaker 1: This will be the last one, barring a crazy miracle
19:28
Speaker 1: with the Raiders getting off the mat and winning out
19:32
Speaker 1: down the strategy, having some help to get in it.
19:34
Speaker 1: What's funny is they thought it was the last one
19:36
Speaker 1: back in when they moved. Yeah, l a thirty five
19:44
Speaker 1: years later, it really is the last one. Hey, let's
19:45
Speaker 1: we got some live television here. Let's go ahead and
19:48
Speaker 1: get to our uniform unveiling. The Jaguar are facing the
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Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders this week, and we'll find out from Jimmy Luck,
19:55
Speaker 1: head equipment manager here here he comes what the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: will wear this to day. And we've got a little
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Speaker 1: conversation before they know this music every week means it's
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Speaker 1: time for Jimmy walk Hi, Jimmy, how are you? What's up? Good?
20:06
Speaker 1: How's it going? It's good? Thanks for you know, on
20:09
Speaker 1: the fly working through it here switching up a little
20:12
Speaker 1: bit today, Let's start with the biggest news in the
20:16
Speaker 1: equipment industry. Last week, the Kansas City Chiefs lost like
20:20
Speaker 1: thirty seven bags and um, they ended up in another
20:24
Speaker 1: town after the team arrived, and and there were thoughts,
20:28
Speaker 1: at least written reports that they might have to forfeit
20:32
Speaker 1: the game if they didn't get there in time. How
20:34
Speaker 1: in the heck does something like that happened this day
20:36
Speaker 1: and age, I'm not exactly sure. I haven't talked to
20:39
Speaker 1: those guys yet. UM, I'm gonna let it kind of
20:41
Speaker 1: lie before. It's probably not real exactly, even though I
20:45
Speaker 1: believe Mike Perkins has already called him and gave him
20:47
Speaker 1: a hard time. But um, yeah, that's one of those things.
20:50
Speaker 1: We actually talked about it Sunday and UM and Monday
20:54
Speaker 1: morning with hams are you know our travel team, like,
20:57
Speaker 1: you know, what what can we do to prevent something
21:00
Speaker 1: like this so it doesn't happen to us? Um. You
21:03
Speaker 1: know it's crazy you had to think about that, but yeah,
21:06
Speaker 1: you know things like this. Glad it happened to somebody else,
21:08
Speaker 1: I feel horrible for him. It's you know, it's like anytime,
21:11
Speaker 1: like you didn't hear kickers say like kickers never rude
21:14
Speaker 1: against guys. So anytime like you see an equimmic guy
21:17
Speaker 1: like team's plane in the rain or the snow, you
21:19
Speaker 1: always kind of like, man, that sucks, I know how
21:21
Speaker 1: that is. So then you hear this, you're you're just like,
21:24
Speaker 1: oh man, I know exactly what they feel. Like it
21:28
Speaker 1: happened fortunate for you, happen against Sey Jimmy. Isn't as
21:37
Speaker 1: simple as just saying, you know, before you close the
21:40
Speaker 1: cargo bay on the airplane, somebody should look inside. Um. Well, again,
21:45
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what happened. There's a few things
21:47
Speaker 1: that maybe did happen. Um. The way we kind of
21:51
Speaker 1: do our plane, it's a little different. We actually bring
21:54
Speaker 1: the cans off the plane because the way we load
21:57
Speaker 1: them on. Um, so we think maybe that would have
22:00
Speaker 1: prevented it. From our standpoint. Um, we're fortunate to like
22:05
Speaker 1: the planes we use, they don't leave, they stay at
22:08
Speaker 1: the airport. So there's a few things that, like said
22:11
Speaker 1: Hams and I talking through it, we think maybe would
22:13
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it wouldn't happen to us, but you know,
22:15
Speaker 1: knock on wood, like you know, it could be something else.
22:18
Speaker 1: So but it kind of makes you re evaluate everything
22:20
Speaker 1: and you go through and you know you don't want
22:22
Speaker 1: to be that guy. Hey, make sure you check, but
22:24
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe you do have to say that
22:26
Speaker 1: I mean everybody again, Yeah, I mean I feel horrible
22:30
Speaker 1: for those. Logistics are a little different. It's not like
22:33
Speaker 1: every team has a plane specifically for it exactly, and
22:36
Speaker 1: then that's what it is, but it's really not. Teams
22:38
Speaker 1: don't really own planes exactly. You're at the mercy of
22:41
Speaker 1: other schedules sometimes. And you know, there was a bunch
22:44
Speaker 1: of little things. They couldn't really get in the night before.
22:46
Speaker 1: If they did, they had to go in super late. Um.
22:49
Speaker 1: You know, so there's a lot of little things that,
22:51
Speaker 1: you know, we're kind of tied into this, and normally
22:54
Speaker 1: when there's things that go wrong, it's a couple of
22:58
Speaker 1: things have gone wrong, and you know, hopefully if one
23:02
Speaker 1: of those I think they said, uh it was something
23:04
Speaker 1: about the three miles and accident, like seven things went
23:07
Speaker 1: wrong and that was a disaster. If any one of
23:10
Speaker 1: them had been found, it wouldn't have happened. So I
23:13
Speaker 1: don't know, that's the way. It would have been pretty
23:15
Speaker 1: close to three the game. Well, that's the other thing too.
23:19
Speaker 1: You hear that, you're like, man, what they really have
23:21
Speaker 1: made the forfeit or would you just like, hey, we're
23:23
Speaker 1: gonna delay this like an hour? I mean because already
23:26
Speaker 1: there the fans were there, like I don't think we've
23:28
Speaker 1: seen that before. I know, right, yeah, around the Patriots
23:33
Speaker 1: practice jerseys. M how about the final game in Oakland
23:38
Speaker 1: as an equipment guy, as a football fan, I mean,
23:41
Speaker 1: being involved in the last game with the colosseum is
23:44
Speaker 1: is really cool, and but do you have to do
23:47
Speaker 1: anything different in terms of, you know, protecting from souvenir
23:50
Speaker 1: seekers or anything like that in the final game. I
23:52
Speaker 1: did talk to the guys in denver Um because I
23:54
Speaker 1: guess they played their last year thinking there's was gonna
23:57
Speaker 1: be the last game. Um, so there's he said they
24:00
Speaker 1: did a few things. There's they're supposed to be more security.
24:02
Speaker 1: I guess. Um, you know, hopefully they don't burn the
24:06
Speaker 1: stadium down before we get out of there. That's where
24:08
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of joking this week. Um, you know, I
24:11
Speaker 1: can I can just envision two like people walking out
24:14
Speaker 1: with seats. You know, he's got a row of seats
24:17
Speaker 1: walking out, you know. So hopefully they don't have any
24:19
Speaker 1: Jaguar trunks or anything. Maybe we can prob him. I
24:22
Speaker 1: here take this football, I don't take the jersey trunk, right,
24:25
Speaker 1: I like that? Alright, So now the Jags and the
24:27
Speaker 1: Raiders coming up four oh five kickoff time Eastern on
24:31
Speaker 1: Sunday at Oakland, Alameda County College. See, um, the final
24:35
Speaker 1: game ever for the Raiders in Oakland. What will the
24:37
Speaker 1: Jaguars wear against the Raiders this Sunday? So we're going
24:43
Speaker 1: with the the white jerseys. Very cool there, former Raider, Yes,
24:50
Speaker 1: first round pick of the Raiders. It's all around good
24:53
Speaker 1: guy too, okay, and black pants, white jersey, black pants
24:59
Speaker 1: in the black hole in the exactly d J Hayde.
25:02
Speaker 1: We heard from him just a moment ago. He wants
25:03
Speaker 1: to give him a big fat ass l on the
25:05
Speaker 1: way out, he said, so, which is just like DJ
25:09
Speaker 1: to say that. I mean he's been Uh he's a good,
25:12
Speaker 1: good guy, as you said, Jimmy, he's good to have
25:14
Speaker 1: her on this on this football team. Yeah, he's pretty
25:16
Speaker 1: funny too, A little comments like that, right, little little
25:19
Speaker 1: barb here there, Jimmy, good stuff as always. Thanks and
25:23
Speaker 1: by the way, happy pople lated birthday. It was his
25:25
Speaker 1: birthday yesterday, Jimmy, when yours is tomorrow? Tomorrow, that's right,
25:28
Speaker 1: today is in between. So we're gonna blow it out
25:31
Speaker 1: tonight and JP, Yeah you're invited, John, come on, Okay, okay,
25:36
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28:31
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28:34
Speaker 1: my favorite people in this building. From player engagement, Tim Owens,
28:40
Speaker 1: Tim Owens, welcome, close to the microphone. Please, thank you,
28:44
Speaker 1: eat welcome in, thank you, welcome. So why is he
28:50
Speaker 1: one of your favorite guys? Tim? Player engagement is an
28:54
Speaker 1: interesting and interesting thing. It encompasses the transition of players
29:00
Speaker 1: onto your team, into a new city, onto a roster,
29:03
Speaker 1: and into a locker room that they are not uh
29:06
Speaker 1: used to, and then helping streamline everyday life with preparation
29:13
Speaker 1: on the field and off the field to help them
29:16
Speaker 1: be the best pros that they can be to really
29:18
Speaker 1: compete at a high level UM for a team. And
29:21
Speaker 1: so really Tim has helped me in multiple ways, whether
29:26
Speaker 1: it's been preparing UH four season in new city, whether
29:30
Speaker 1: it's finding ways to overcome certain adversities that the game
29:34
Speaker 1: brings on or off the field, and really just talking
29:37
Speaker 1: through some situations to be prepared mentally for Sunday and
29:41
Speaker 1: going out there. Uh. He has a lot of wisdom
29:43
Speaker 1: when it comes to that. Uh. He and MP do
29:45
Speaker 1: a great job of making sure that guys are locked
29:47
Speaker 1: in and UH and growing while while playing the game.
29:51
Speaker 1: You mentioned in p Marcus Pard, we have him on
29:53
Speaker 1: a good bit though, I mean the the challenge though,
29:55
Speaker 1: as you said, Chris, there's a lot of guys, especially
29:57
Speaker 1: this time of year, there's some churn at that on
29:59
Speaker 1: that us and some new guys coming in or it
30:01
Speaker 1: with a whirl with environment. If you can settle them
30:05
Speaker 1: down a little bit, that that helps them do their
30:07
Speaker 1: job better. Right, Yes, sir, Um, it's all about relationships. Um.
30:11
Speaker 1: When the guys come into the office, you know, it's
30:13
Speaker 1: I do more listening than anything, which is great because
30:17
Speaker 1: I get to know them as as a player, get
30:20
Speaker 1: to know him as a person, not only the player,
30:23
Speaker 1: because most times in player engagement will take away with it,
30:27
Speaker 1: ignore the number and focus on the name on the back.
30:30
Speaker 1: So it allows us to connect with them a lot more. Um.
30:33
Speaker 1: And we talk about adversity. You know, we talk about
30:37
Speaker 1: a lot of things, but you know, just adversity that
30:39
Speaker 1: he brings up. Um, adversity you can do one of
30:42
Speaker 1: three things. You can need to define, destroy or develop
30:45
Speaker 1: you And I did you have a greater appreciation Chris
30:49
Speaker 1: for the for the job coming in this year. This
30:52
Speaker 1: is really your first year of transition once in the NFL. Yeah,
30:56
Speaker 1: you know, Um, free agency can be interesting. Uh. And
30:59
Speaker 1: moving into locker room, you know, they were about two
31:01
Speaker 1: guys on the roster before I got here that we're
31:04
Speaker 1: here that I knew, but other than that, it was
31:07
Speaker 1: completely new environment, completely new staff. Uh. Just transitioning into
31:12
Speaker 1: the building was a little bit difficult at first, not
31:14
Speaker 1: because you know, people acted a certain way, but because
31:18
Speaker 1: just a level of comfort and routine that you have
31:20
Speaker 1: football players or creatures of habit and having to develop
31:24
Speaker 1: that again was difficult. But having people in your corner
31:28
Speaker 1: who could ease that transition, like Marcus and like Tim
31:32
Speaker 1: has really made that made that easier and challenging me
31:36
Speaker 1: as well. Um, you know, with Tim's background and wisdom
31:40
Speaker 1: when it comes to living life and and and overcoming
31:43
Speaker 1: adversities and and struggles, whether it's mentally, whether it's physically,
31:47
Speaker 1: really challenges me as a player to up my game
31:50
Speaker 1: and take it even further and be able to go
31:53
Speaker 1: out there and do more. What's the biggest thing. You
31:55
Speaker 1: try to tell guys that they're old leaders. They're old
31:59
Speaker 1: leaders in their own right. Um, everybody has a different
32:01
Speaker 1: leadership stuse. I mean, look at us four. We can
32:03
Speaker 1: have a significant we're gonna have a task, and we
32:07
Speaker 1: might have four different ideas of getting that done. But
32:10
Speaker 1: the most important thing is the finished product, um, but
32:13
Speaker 1: also finding a meaningful purpose for it. Not saying because
32:16
Speaker 1: we're not neither one of us are perfect. Um, but
32:18
Speaker 1: we can step back, analyze the actual situation and realize,
32:23
Speaker 1: you know, come to a refortion of what we would
32:24
Speaker 1: do going forward if you know, granted that opportunity again,
32:27
Speaker 1: and how we will attack it. So it's the same
32:29
Speaker 1: thing to actually do on the football field in the
32:31
Speaker 1: fulmer room. Um, we just compared translated to life life skills.
32:36
Speaker 1: We're not leaders. Yes, yes, let's see the words of
32:42
Speaker 1: the words of Tim hold a lot of weight and gravity.
32:44
Speaker 1: You can just feel the wisdom in them. But then
32:46
Speaker 1: also when you know a little bit like Tim, I
32:48
Speaker 1: don't know, if everybody knows of your of your history,
32:52
Speaker 1: your past, would you like enlighten people a little bit
32:55
Speaker 1: so we know that as players and that and looking
32:58
Speaker 1: through that filter, it gives even more a weight in
33:00
Speaker 1: gravity to the words that you say each day. I'm
33:02
Speaker 1: a small country kid from Greenville, South Carolina. UM. I
33:07
Speaker 1: grew up playing basketball. Um. Then I actually transitioned over
33:11
Speaker 1: into the Marine Corps UM in n so Uh. From there,
33:16
Speaker 1: I was artillery, switched over to logistics right before the
33:19
Speaker 1: war um l instructor along with the other things. Other
33:23
Speaker 1: things I actually done throughout my career actually turned into
33:26
Speaker 1: twenty years UM as far as leading men lead mental
33:29
Speaker 1: training and educate the next generation, which is something that
33:32
Speaker 1: I actually absolutely enjoy anytime you come, you know, in
33:35
Speaker 1: an environment where leaders to be infected, to be affected
33:40
Speaker 1: by you know, positive leadership and reinforcements. Teachers just read
33:44
Speaker 1: the corps um a sound mind, sound discipline and to
33:48
Speaker 1: get around a group of people that share the same
33:51
Speaker 1: vision that you have to meet the meet the mission.
33:55
Speaker 1: Obviously the mission here is to win football games and
33:56
Speaker 1: development of charactor. You this does seemed like the drill
34:01
Speaker 1: instructor demeanor. But can you turn that back on every
34:04
Speaker 1: once in a while or what? It's still there. It's
34:08
Speaker 1: still there. I don't know. If I want to see it,
34:14
Speaker 1: they can use it. But it's uh, it's more it
34:20
Speaker 1: comes out when provoked. But these guys, these guys in
34:24
Speaker 1: the locker room, I mean they make me better. Um,
34:26
Speaker 1: Gus far has been in actual space. I told them
34:29
Speaker 1: all the time. I you know, have this conversation with
34:31
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the locker room. You know,
34:34
Speaker 1: not only they say, you know, Chris came here and said,
34:36
Speaker 1: I make him a better, better version of himself. They
34:39
Speaker 1: do the same thing to me. So it's a it's
34:42
Speaker 1: a catch twenty two here. So all the team development, Chris,
34:45
Speaker 1: you were in the a f C West and you've
34:49
Speaker 1: seen some games in the black Hole Oakland, Elliman, the
34:52
Speaker 1: County Coliseum. This will be the final game in Oakland ever,
34:55
Speaker 1: they're moving to Las Vegas. Of course that's been the
34:57
Speaker 1: build up this week. What can this team expect in Oakland?
35:01
Speaker 1: For those who have not been out there before. Well,
35:04
Speaker 1: in the team meeting today, UH coach asked he who
35:06
Speaker 1: has played in the black Hole before? And you had
35:10
Speaker 1: a very few sparse hands go up over the room.
35:13
Speaker 1: And so a majority, great majority of this team has
35:15
Speaker 1: never played there. Uh. They don't really understand what the
35:18
Speaker 1: black Hole is UH and who the fans are, but
35:23
Speaker 1: they're they're their own thing, their own group that that
35:27
Speaker 1: stadium UH is. It's one of the tougher places to
35:32
Speaker 1: play because of multiple things. One of the things is
35:36
Speaker 1: the field half the year is a baseball field. UM,
35:39
Speaker 1: it's an outfield, UH, and there's dirt under it, so
35:42
Speaker 1: when they put some of the grass in sometimes it
35:45
Speaker 1: doesn't really take well. The field holds moisture and so
35:48
Speaker 1: the grass does rip up easily. You'll see a lot
35:51
Speaker 1: of guys slipping and sliding and falling out there. Uh,
35:54
Speaker 1: depending on the forecast. I've played in a number of
35:58
Speaker 1: rain games where it was just a mud bowl there. Um.
36:03
Speaker 1: And the wonderful thing about the stadium is it's so
36:06
Speaker 1: old that it leaks. And the locker room has about
36:08
Speaker 1: fifty lockers, which is not enough. And those lockers are
36:12
Speaker 1: about yea wide, little wooden stalls, and the ceiling leaks,
36:18
Speaker 1: and so sometimes they're the floor is moist and then
36:21
Speaker 1: other times it's flooded. So other times you go into
36:23
Speaker 1: the locker room and there are puddles of water, literal
36:26
Speaker 1: puddles of water in your locker where you can't put
36:28
Speaker 1: things on the ground. Uh, your feet are getting wet
36:31
Speaker 1: and cleats get wet. It's it's tough. And then the
36:33
Speaker 1: field is the same way. And then the fans just
36:35
Speaker 1: matched the environment and they're about it as obnoxious as
36:39
Speaker 1: they can be. Think uh Raspy Rowdier New England's Patriots fans.
36:48
Speaker 1: So they're they're obnoxious, Yes, they will, they will yell
36:52
Speaker 1: ob seen things and they take pleasure in being you know,
36:56
Speaker 1: members of the black Hole. But all that being said,
36:59
Speaker 1: there's a lot of history, a lot of history in
37:01
Speaker 1: that stadium, a lot of history on that field, and
37:04
Speaker 1: you can feel it and hear it. They play a
37:06
Speaker 1: classic NFL film songs before the game, and they put
37:10
Speaker 1: highlights up there from from past years, like long, long
37:13
Speaker 1: time ago football teams, and so you you begin to
37:16
Speaker 1: feel a little bit of that nostalgia, uh, and feel
37:19
Speaker 1: like you're playing in a classic football game. And it
37:21
Speaker 1: gets it gets dirty. I love it. I love it.
37:24
Speaker 1: I gotta go. As as a d. J. Hayden, former
37:27
Speaker 1: Raiders first round pick, told me earlier today, it would
37:31
Speaker 1: nothing be better to go give him a big fat
37:33
Speaker 1: ass l out there. That's what he's ready. He's fired up,
37:37
Speaker 1: as you can tell. Yeah, No, I think this is
37:40
Speaker 1: a this is a great opportunity for us. You know,
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Speaker 1: two teams that that really could use a boost right now.
37:46
Speaker 1: I know for sure that we can. And um, you know,
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Speaker 1: going into this week, you let everybody know that, you
37:53
Speaker 1: let them know that, hey, we gotta go out there
37:54
Speaker 1: and we gotta prepare. You know, Oakland and struggled with
37:56
Speaker 1: some things. We struggled with a lot of things. Uh,
37:59
Speaker 1: and so they're probably looking their chops looking at this
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Speaker 1: game too. But who's gonna come out, who's gonna throw
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Speaker 1: that punch, and who's gonna be able to take punches repeatedly?
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Speaker 1: Get back up and continue marching forward down the field
38:09
Speaker 1: until that clock hit zero zero? Is it such a
38:11
Speaker 1: young team, Chris, especially now with some of the injuries. Uh,
38:15
Speaker 1: what are you telling some of the younger guys about
38:18
Speaker 1: the importance of these last three games. You're a veteran,
38:22
Speaker 1: so you know, you know the importance of good tape
38:25
Speaker 1: and a lot more than even than that. Yeah, you
38:27
Speaker 1: know this this league can be volatile. Uh, there's a
38:29
Speaker 1: lot of turnover in this league. And playing beyond playing
38:34
Speaker 1: to your third year and playing beyond your third year
38:37
Speaker 1: is a blessing because a majority of guys don't make
38:40
Speaker 1: it that far in this league. So telling a lot
38:42
Speaker 1: of guys, hey, what you put on tape is your resume,
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Speaker 1: and that follows you everywhere. And that's not just a
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Speaker 1: cliche that in January February, that really comes. Every team
38:51
Speaker 1: watches that tape, Every team talks to other teams to see, hey,
38:55
Speaker 1: what is your work ethic. What kind of attitude does
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Speaker 1: this person have? Is he going to be a lead
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Speaker 1: are in the locker room? Are you gonna be poisoned
39:02
Speaker 1: cancerous in the locker room? How is he going to
39:04
Speaker 1: help us moving forward? He's gonna help her hinder us? Uh?
39:07
Speaker 1: Is his production level higher than his maintenance? And so uh,
39:11
Speaker 1: just talking to guys and really just challenging them, Uh
39:15
Speaker 1: in a young locker room to to grow up quickly
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Speaker 1: and to prepare like a pro. You know, you you've
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Speaker 1: had this whole season, even if you weren't the guy
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Speaker 1: who was out there on the field, uh, making those plays.
39:27
Speaker 1: You know, we have a lot of young guys playing
39:28
Speaker 1: on taking snaps on defense. Even if you weren't the
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Speaker 1: guy out there making the plays on defense. You had
39:33
Speaker 1: so long to watch those guys in front of you
39:35
Speaker 1: and how they prepare, how they studied, how they watched film,
39:38
Speaker 1: how they took care of their bodies. At this point,
39:40
Speaker 1: you have no excuse going into these games. Uh, you're
39:43
Speaker 1: not a rookie anymore. Go out there, prepare correctly, play
39:47
Speaker 1: a solid game, and let's go get Let's go get
39:49
Speaker 1: a W. Good a W and Oakland. That would be
39:51
Speaker 1: a good way to close down the Colosseum and they
39:53
Speaker 1: get things back on track for the Jaguars. Thank you
39:56
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Speaker 1: ever at the black Hole. Let's get our players to
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Speaker 1: watch for this game, John, and then we'll um, we'll
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Speaker 1: move along. I'll start with mine today. Mine aren't that
42:56
Speaker 1: hard Gardnerment show quarterback. Might have heard of him. He
43:01
Speaker 1: has a mustache. Here's what he did last week, hundred
43:04
Speaker 1: and sixty two yards a touchdown. The offense sputtered, you know,
43:09
Speaker 1: they had the long drive early for a field goal
43:11
Speaker 1: and then they couldn't get much going sustained after that,
43:14
Speaker 1: the defense was given up a lot on the other
43:16
Speaker 1: side too, didn't help much, but they We're still looking
43:20
Speaker 1: to see down the stretch of the last three games
43:24
Speaker 1: what he really is and what this franchise feels about
43:27
Speaker 1: him going into the off season. There are big questions,
43:30
Speaker 1: of course at the top of the organization to be
43:32
Speaker 1: answered at some point. But gardnerment she was a draft
43:36
Speaker 1: pick last year. You get the feeling he's gonna be
43:38
Speaker 1: around here for a while. What can he really do
43:40
Speaker 1: down the stretch. I think it's a big question starting
43:42
Speaker 1: this Sunday. Yeah, it's it's still a small sample sized
43:45
Speaker 1: and there's still a lot of potential there and he's
43:48
Speaker 1: done a lot of good things. He's he's at a
43:50
Speaker 1: point now though where his last two starts have been lost. Uh,
43:58
Speaker 1: A little bit of the same pattern with Yeah, it's
44:00
Speaker 1: not effective. Many reasons for that, not at all just
44:04
Speaker 1: on Gardner, But you know, you want to break out
44:08
Speaker 1: of that streak because if you have another couple of
44:11
Speaker 1: games like that, then the book becomes well, he was
44:15
Speaker 1: okay for a while and now defenses of what figured
44:18
Speaker 1: him out. So I don't necessarily think that's all that
44:21
Speaker 1: has happened. But he definitely needs to break out of
44:25
Speaker 1: that and not have that be a trend. Yes, that's
44:28
Speaker 1: why I picked him. So Gardner bent to the second
44:31
Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback is my first one. Uh. The The other
44:34
Speaker 1: one for me is a position group this week, and
44:36
Speaker 1: it's the linebackers. Obviously. I mean that that has been
44:39
Speaker 1: the focal point over the last few weeks, and things
44:43
Speaker 1: have broken down a number of places on the defense.
44:46
Speaker 1: But can this group figure some things out. They've tried
44:49
Speaker 1: different names in different places, different guys, and you've got
44:52
Speaker 1: guys on injured reserve. When you look at the linebacker
44:55
Speaker 1: room right now, Dakota Allen just joined the team. Austin
44:58
Speaker 1: Callitro has been around, but he hasn't had a lot
45:01
Speaker 1: of time on the field. Joe Giles Harris is up
45:03
Speaker 1: now and active on the roster. Lely On Jacobs is
45:05
Speaker 1: a strong side. Donald Payne has a bunch of tackles
45:08
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, but a lot of them
45:10
Speaker 1: are down the field a little bit. Quincy Williams. That's
45:12
Speaker 1: the linebacker crew right now. So who of these guys
45:15
Speaker 1: can step up and and really get something going at
45:19
Speaker 1: that linebacker second level. Yeah, that's the question, Yeah, and
45:23
Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's a good answer. You look at
45:27
Speaker 1: that crew that's gonna start. Leon Jacob thinks solid strong side.
45:31
Speaker 1: Quincy Williams has really struggled for the most part this season.
45:35
Speaker 1: And then you have Donald Payne, who had a good game,
45:37
Speaker 1: but he's you know, he's undrafted player who's in his
45:41
Speaker 1: third year and was out of football in September. Um,
45:44
Speaker 1: it's not rocket science to figure out that a lot
45:47
Speaker 1: of the two yard rushing games, the the linebackers are struggling,
45:54
Speaker 1: and I don't know that I don't necessarily play better, right.
45:57
Speaker 1: I hope they do, but we haven't seen a body
45:59
Speaker 1: of work to suggest it. Which brings us to one
46:01
Speaker 1: of my players to watch, alright versu a little bit.
46:06
Speaker 1: I chose Ronnie Harrison is my defensive player to watch,
46:09
Speaker 1: mainly because I don't necessarily think that the linebackers are
46:12
Speaker 1: going to be able to play that well. So Andrew
46:18
Speaker 1: Wingard came in play for Ronnie Harrison. But Ronnie Harrison
46:22
Speaker 1: supposed to be the better of the two players. Maybe
46:24
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison's presence in the middle of the defense can
46:27
Speaker 1: help them be a little bit less rowner. Ab up
46:29
Speaker 1: the middle. Um, that's that's where, Yeah, I don't necessarily
46:35
Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen. And it's sort of another a
46:40
Speaker 1: little bit tongue in cheek for the tight end, I
46:43
Speaker 1: mean offensive player to watch. I'm going with seft de Valve.
46:47
Speaker 1: De Valve is demand this week and he hasn't played
46:55
Speaker 1: in four games because of the oblique. He had a
46:58
Speaker 1: couple of stats at tight end earlier. Uh, six catches
47:03
Speaker 1: sixty eight yards. Maybe they can get something in the
47:07
Speaker 1: middle of the field to get some relief off. Besides, Uh,
47:11
Speaker 1: I'm all in JP on set devolve. You use them
47:16
Speaker 1: in the running game as well as a lead back.
47:18
Speaker 1: Sometimes he'll line up as an H back and do
47:20
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff and then go out and pass
47:23
Speaker 1: routes and they a little facetious, but he started fifteen
47:25
Speaker 1: games they brought him. He's a serviceable NFL tight end. Uh,
47:30
Speaker 1: let's see if they can get something out of that position.
47:32
Speaker 1: They got I got their only touchdown from nicol Leary
47:35
Speaker 1: last week, but uh, you know, tight end has been
47:39
Speaker 1: so deficient. Maybe they get something out of it. And uh,
47:42
Speaker 1: you know, but realistically that positions are reset in the
47:46
Speaker 1: off season no matter what happens. I agree with that.
47:49
Speaker 1: There you have it, our players to watch. Steff Develove,
47:51
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison, I've got Gardener, went to the second and
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Speaker 1: the line Packers and the Jags get the Raiders this Sunday,
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Speaker 1: four oh five Eastern time, kick off in the final
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Speaker 1: game ever at the Oakland Colisseum. John, well done, Thank
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Speaker 1: you very much. I will talk to you tomorrow. John Osier,
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