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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, which makes
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Speaker 1: this Stuff you should Know? Um, and we were about
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Speaker 1: to present part eighty in our series on law enforcement agencies.
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Speaker 1: Pretty soon we're going to just start profiling like X
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Speaker 1: time to do a lot more research. Okay, well today
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Speaker 1: we're talking about the U. S. Marshals. That's right, So, Chuck,
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Speaker 1: have you ever seen the movie The Fugitive? I have? Well,
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Speaker 1: then we don't need to do this episode. Why is it?
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Speaker 1: That's it? It's the most accurate trail of the U. S.
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Speaker 1: Marshall ever created by man Tommy Lee Jones. Yes, he
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Speaker 1: was good in that. I'm a big fan. Yeah, I know,
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Speaker 1: he was great. It's really tough to go wrong with
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Speaker 1: Tommy Lee Jones. What was he in was he in
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Speaker 1: No Country for Old Man? And he's the last lines
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Yeah. He actually, if you've read
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Speaker 1: the book, is the main character is pretty much his character.
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Speaker 1: That's why when you see the movie and oh gosh,
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Speaker 1: I hate the spoilers spoiler alert when you see the
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Speaker 1: movie and and what's his face dies? H, have your
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Speaker 1: bar down now that the what you think is the
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Speaker 1: main character? Yes, uh, what's his face from the game
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Speaker 1: Josh Brolin Josh Roland in the movie, it's kind of like, wait,
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Speaker 1: he just kind of unceremoniously died and they didn't make
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Speaker 1: a big deal about it. Remember in the movie, but
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Speaker 1: if you read the book, he's not really the main character,
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Speaker 1: so it sort of makes more sense. Anyway. I love
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Speaker 1: the Coen Brothers, so they know what they're doing. God
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Speaker 1: the best. But again, Tommy Lee Jones, this is the
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Speaker 1: how Tommy Lee Jones works episode and he's a class act.
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Speaker 1: And chuck the we're talking about the Federal Marshals. Really
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Speaker 1: I was joking about Tommy Lee. Um, did you know
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Speaker 1: that they are the oldest law enforcement agency in the land. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and most versatile they claim, Yeah, very proud of that fact.
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Speaker 1: They do a lot of stuff they really do. Um,
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Speaker 1: and in a lot of ways, they're very unsung. They
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Speaker 1: have a very long history. They were first created in
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Speaker 1: nine the first time Congress met, the Marshal Service was
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Speaker 1: literally created. Um. And they've had their highs and their
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Speaker 1: loves and the two hundred and twenty five years since
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Speaker 1: George Washington appointed the first thirteen marshals. That is very
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Speaker 1: cool right out of the gate. And Uh, basically they
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Speaker 1: set up the federal courts and they said, wow, we
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Speaker 1: need some people to kind of protect the courts. We
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Speaker 1: need some people that crack some heads. U S. Marshals done. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And um, apparently as far as like law enforcement agencies
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Speaker 1: in the US goes, the federal marshals have kind of
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Speaker 1: had the short end of the stick traditionally. Um, especially
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Speaker 1: early on in the country's history when states rights wasn't
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Speaker 1: just relegated to like you know, you know, it was
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Speaker 1: a big deal that everybody right. UM, So you you
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Speaker 1: had this guy who was sometimes the only law enforcement
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Speaker 1: official in the entire land in your whole area, and
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Speaker 1: he's trying to shove federal laws down your throat when
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Speaker 1: you're all about states rights. And that was pretty much
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Speaker 1: the the the beginning of the Marshal Service was basically
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Speaker 1: being at odds with their friends and neighbors about the
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Speaker 1: stuff that they were doing. A lot of times it
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Speaker 1: was stuff that proved to be unconstitutional, like the Alien
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Speaker 1: and Sedition Act. Remember our buddy Eugene Debs who ran
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Speaker 1: for president and got a million votes from jail here
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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, the Socialists, He was jailed for the Alien
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Speaker 1: and Sedition Act. Yeah, I remember, Like you couldn't even
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Speaker 1: speak against the government publicly or else. It was considered
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Speaker 1: treason around World War One. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, Marcel's had
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Speaker 1: to arrest people like Eugene Debs for that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1: So there have been plenty of points in the history
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Speaker 1: of this agency where like they haven't had to do
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Speaker 1: very good stuff, and uh, they've suffered for it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And the grabster Ed Grabanowski, who wrote this as well
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Speaker 1: as many other cool articles that we podcast on, pointed
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Speaker 1: out that the Civil War, or not the Civil War,
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Speaker 1: but slavery was kind of a contentious point because in
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Speaker 1: the South they had to enforce a slave trade bands
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Speaker 1: on slave imports, and then in the North they had
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Speaker 1: to prosecute people fugitives on the run and northern abligious
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Speaker 1: from like and in the South there like so camp
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Speaker 1: bring in our slaves. So yeah, the and the marshals
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Speaker 1: were like, man, no one likes me anywhere, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: go out west. And they were liked in the West
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Speaker 1: in a lot of places. Probably yes, because literally out
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Speaker 1: west it was lawless in many many respects. And literally
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Speaker 1: and figuratively, there would be a marshal out there, and
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Speaker 1: the marshal is as you would see, just some guy
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Speaker 1: like sitting in an office in some boom town, right
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Speaker 1: like bat Masterson and that's it. Uh, And then he
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Speaker 1: would deputize the posse. That's extremely accurate. There's a there
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Speaker 1: would be a marshal out there, and if you needed
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Speaker 1: some extra help, you could grab some law abiding citizens
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Speaker 1: who had guns and say you're now an official of
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Speaker 1: the US government and you have to come crack heads
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Speaker 1: with me. Um. That's really how it happened. But yes,
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Speaker 1: like you said, in in situations like that, most of
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Speaker 1: the law abiding people are the people who are just
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Speaker 1: trying to mind some gold and leaving other people alone.
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Speaker 1: They were very happy that there was a marshal there.
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Speaker 1: Yea a little order for a change, right so there's
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Speaker 1: like a little uptick in a marshal appreciation in the
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Speaker 1: nineteenth century, the second half of it out West. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's kind of their heyday two from what I gather
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Speaker 1: if you don't count now. And I actually found too
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Speaker 1: that a lot of states still have a posse. But
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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, the Arkansas U. S. Marshall Posse,
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Speaker 1: and it's just the organization that helps to raise awareness
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Speaker 1: and stuff. It's like the p b A. Yeah, they'll
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Speaker 1: go around to schools and stuff like that. That's the
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Speaker 1: Marshal's Posse. Wow, it's very valuable job they do. Josh, well,
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Speaker 1: there's remember there's the posse Coomatatas Act that prevents posses,
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Speaker 1: doesn't it. I never heard of that. Yeah, we talked
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Speaker 1: about in the Delta Force episode. It's like it's it's
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Speaker 1: the law that prevents Delta Force from operating in the US. Ostensibly. Well,
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Speaker 1: in these days, you try to get a posse together
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Speaker 1: and people like dude, I'm watching Lost Boys come on nice. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Twenties century, early twentieth century, they were pretty close to
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Speaker 1: obscurity because um, they had a reputation for being fat,
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Speaker 1: lazy retired cops. Demoided grabbing. Owski puts it, I love
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Speaker 1: that that word. Dumb fat retired cops. Yeah, basically the
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Speaker 1: the UM. I don't know what led to that, but
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Speaker 1: they just kind of lost their their shape and um,
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Speaker 1: everybody knew it too. And then the respect for the
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Speaker 1: marshal service went down tremendously like that. It sounds like
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Speaker 1: it was a place where old cops go to die
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Speaker 1: or to retire. Um and uh. And then a guy
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Speaker 1: came along in the the ninety nine. His name is Frank Murphy,
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Speaker 1: and he became Attorney General of the United States, and
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Speaker 1: he said, you're gonna stop being so pudgy, c you.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get you to work out. You're gonna be
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Speaker 1: good at arresting criminals. C. They said, whatever you say, Murphy. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and that was that. Yeah, and they started taking shape again,
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Speaker 1: literally and figuratively, I guess. And uh, you know, throughout
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Speaker 1: the twentieth century made their aim for doing such brave
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Speaker 1: things like escorting black students to school during segregation. Those
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Speaker 1: were marshals when you see that famous picture. Um, although
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Speaker 1: I think some of them are National Guard as well. No,
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Speaker 1: the National Guard were ordered out by racist governors to
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Speaker 1: block the coming in and the Marshals odds with the
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Speaker 1: National Guard. Yeah, National Guards state. I feel like a dummy.
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Speaker 1: I don't, okay, I mean it just makes sense, you know,
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Speaker 1: like that, Well, the National Guard's gonna be out there protection.
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Speaker 1: No, no no, no, that's a big black eye on the
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Speaker 1: state of Alabama in particular and Mississippi. It's true. They
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Speaker 1: also um kind of mix it up with anti war
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Speaker 1: protesters during Vietnam and basically made more of a name
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Speaker 1: for themselves as the twentieth century advanced as hippie beaters. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's true. Uh so what what do they do though?
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Speaker 1: And also I just want to point out I don't
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Speaker 1: advocate the beating of hippies, and if you're gonna send
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Speaker 1: me an email, go back and listen to the whole
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Speaker 1: catalog first. Okay, except hippie Rob he deserves a good
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Speaker 1: beat down, but not really, not really, um so chuck. Finally,
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Speaker 1: we arrived to current day. As far as when this
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Speaker 1: article was written two thousand seven, and at a place
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Speaker 1: called Fort Smith, Arkansas, you will find the um National
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Speaker 1: Museum of the U. S. Marshals. Still to this day,
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Speaker 1: it's there four years later. I did not know that,
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Speaker 1: and they changed their their badge too. Used to be
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Speaker 1: a six point in star. Oh is it? It's five? Okay?
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Speaker 1: So okay, it did start out to being a six
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Speaker 1: silver star in a circle. Okay, so now it's a
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Speaker 1: five pointed star in a circle. But apparently up until
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Speaker 1: ninety one, so there's ninety four districts that UM coincide
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Speaker 1: with judicial districts federal judicial districts that Marshall served, and
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Speaker 1: every district was in charge of creating its own badge
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Speaker 1: until nineteen forty one when they standardized it. And each
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Speaker 1: district only has one marshal official marshal. The rest are
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Speaker 1: like deputies and things like that. Right, there's like about
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Speaker 1: four thousand deputies in ninety four marshals working that UM
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Speaker 1: three thousand. I saw that it said on their website
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Speaker 1: three thousand, nine hundred approximately three thousand, nine hundred and fifty,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, we don't round up
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Speaker 1: the four thousand anymore when we hit that. Well, it's
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Speaker 1: better than having a ticker that's like takes one down
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Speaker 1: every time someone dies in the line of two up
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Speaker 1: one when one's born. Yeah, that's true, or a new
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Speaker 1: hire right, all right, So chuck Um, you said that
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Speaker 1: the Marshal services pretty versatile and for good reason. They
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Speaker 1: have UM at least four main areas of operation UM
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Speaker 1: and probably the best known one thanks to Mr Tommy
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Speaker 1: Lee Jones, the class act UM is catching fugitives, and
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Speaker 1: not just federal fugitives. They also support UM state and
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Speaker 1: local law enforcement groups in catching their fugitives too, So
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Speaker 1: the marshals are basically just big show offs. I got
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Speaker 1: a couple of stats here, Josh, Uh in two thousand ten,
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pepper your information with stats about that.
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Speaker 1: In two thousand ten they arrested more than eighty one thousand,
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Speaker 1: nine hundred state and local fugitives. That's when they're helping
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Speaker 1: everyone out. It was eighty nine thousand, nine hundred one
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Speaker 1: and UH. As far as federal federal fugitives, they arrested
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Speaker 1: more than thirty six thousand in two thousand ten alone.
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Speaker 1: That's a huge up tick in because state and local
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Speaker 1: because in two thousand seven in the article its sites
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Speaker 1: forty six thousand, eight hundred state and local fugitives, so
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Speaker 1: that's close to double. Yeah. Yeah, good work. Yes, well,
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Speaker 1: part of that was operating from Falcon Yeah, that was
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Speaker 1: mainly to UH, to nab unregistered sex offenders. Right, it
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Speaker 1: depends like it's it's it's a fugitive capture operation um
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Speaker 1: and in two thousand seven they were up to the
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Speaker 1: end of phase three. UM and I think each phase
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Speaker 1: would be a different part of the country and then
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Speaker 1: maybe a different emphasis. So Falcon three in two thousand
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Speaker 1: seven was launched to catch people who are supposed to
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Speaker 1: register as sex offenders but never did, making them fugitives
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Speaker 1: in the Eastern US and it nabbed ten thousand, seven
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three felons, sex offenders, the people we
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Speaker 1: do not want on the street, just a few, and
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Speaker 1: gang members more than gang members. And I think that's
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Speaker 1: a part of Operation Falcon right, I believe gang stuff, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because ICE is responsible for um immigration. So although the
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Speaker 1: Marshall Service have four outposts Mexico, Jamaica and a couple
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Speaker 1: other places in the Caribbean, Yeah, Colombia and Dominican Republic,
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Speaker 1: I think that's all drug related. That's just a guess. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: But um so they would and they do arrest people
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Speaker 1: in those countries. Um One of the guys on their
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Speaker 1: most wanted list was arrested in Mexico. Um So they
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Speaker 1: can operate outside of the country, but they wouldn't. They
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have anything to do with immigration. Although I can't
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Speaker 1: see them not working with Ice. They might. Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: seems like they will work with whoever asked for their help.
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Speaker 1: You know, they're like, sure, we can send a team
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Speaker 1: down there. Um. One of the other big aspects of
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Speaker 1: their job is prisoner transport because they're they're in charge of, um,
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Speaker 1: basically looking over the court system, the federal court system,
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Speaker 1: anything that has to do with protecting a courtroom, transporting
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Speaker 1: a prisoner, the keeping the security aspect of the federal
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Speaker 1: judicial system functioning. That's what they do. And a big
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Speaker 1: part of that is shuffling prisoners from place to place. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and they do that via the Justice, Prisoner and Alien
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Speaker 1: Transportation System. And that is literally their own bus line, airline,
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Speaker 1: van line, whatever they need. If you've seen them pretty
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Speaker 1: bad movie con Air that was those were marshals and uh,
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Speaker 1: every day they have sixty three thousand, roughly sixty three
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Speaker 1: thousand prisoners custody and then they transport these dudes and
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Speaker 1: ladies I guess, all over the all over the place
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Speaker 1: on planes. Yeah. Um, no beverage service and I'll bet not,
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Speaker 1: and I'll bet those um like the stuff on the
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Speaker 1: seatbacks where you rest your head. Yes, haven't been watched
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Speaker 1: in a while. No in flight movie. Yeah, it's no frills,
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Speaker 1: exactly what it is. Uh, if you want to see
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Speaker 1: a very frill laden aircraft, you should see Airport. I
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Speaker 1: think the third one, did you watch that recently? Has awesome?
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Speaker 1: You know what I watched the other day, Towering Inferno.
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Speaker 1: I've got the in my instant que It's pretty good, man.
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Speaker 1: I gotta say like it holds. It's way too long.
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Speaker 1: First of all, it's like two and a half hours long,
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Speaker 1: and it didn't need to be, Like they should have
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Speaker 1: cut out a lot of the plot points. But as
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Speaker 1: far as just like, uh, oh my god, what's gonna happen?
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Speaker 1: It was pretty big ranks still suspense. Yeah, that's that's
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Speaker 1: the word. Yeah it is. It's among it's among the
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Speaker 1: best of the seventies disaster flicks. Right. Yeah, and you
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Speaker 1: got Paul Newman and Steve McQueen in the same movie.
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Speaker 1: That's just off the tough guy meter. Yeah. Well, I
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Speaker 1: I didn't have my full attention last night, so I
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Speaker 1: didn't watch that. Instead. I punished me and you meet
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Speaker 1: with Beyond the Poseidon Adventure. That's so funny. We're on
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Speaker 1: this kick of old disaster. It's weird. Unbeknownst. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: had no idea until just this moment. Towering Airports seventy eight. Um, so, chuck,
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Speaker 1: I think it's seventy eight. There's also seventies seven. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's a few seventy seventy seven. I think it's seventy seven.
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Speaker 1: It's the one where Jimmy Stewart owns a luxury airliner
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Speaker 1: is flying these people who end up beneath the surface
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Speaker 1: of the Atlantic in the Bermuda Triangle. Okay, and you
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Speaker 1: know who wasn't towering in front of Fredi Stair? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: when his last movie and he actually there's one small
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Speaker 1: Sceneri's dancing and my eyes were just like, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: Fredi stairs dancing. Well, apparently in the Tower of Inferno
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Speaker 1: they had like fifty something sets and all the eight
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Speaker 1: of them were like went up in flames. H wow. Yeah, geez,
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Speaker 1: that's a sidetrack. That's much more interesting. They got marshals,
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Speaker 1: I think, so they transport prisoners, they kept capture fugitives,
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Speaker 1: and then um we we did a whole podcast on
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Speaker 1: Witness Security Program wit SEC, the Witness Protection Program UM,
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Speaker 1: but we'll talk about it briefly here. Basically, it was
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Speaker 1: conceived in nineteen seventy and since then the Marshal Service,
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Speaker 1: which basically UM hides federal witnesses and keeps them hidden,
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Speaker 1: gives them new lives UM, or just you know, keeps
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Speaker 1: them in safe houses during trial, depending on the arrangement. Uh.
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Speaker 1: They say that since nineteen seventy, since the beginning, not
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Speaker 1: one witness has been harmed if they follow the rules.
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Speaker 1: Plenty of witnesses have been wax but went to a
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Speaker 1: movie or something with you know, look at me, I'm
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Speaker 1: Jimmy two legs Josh. They also, we we said protect
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Speaker 1: the courts. They still do that today, more than two
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Speaker 1: thousand judges and four courthouses nationwide. They install security systems,
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Speaker 1: they provide personal escort and watch over high risk trials.
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Speaker 1: And there's also a few other people they helped transport UM.
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Speaker 1: I think all federal judges, U S attorneys, personnel in jurors.
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Speaker 1: UM they provide protection for and they transport UM. The
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Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices outside of Washington, d C. I'm their
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Speaker 1: annual picnic I guess so, and I guess in d C.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure who it is. It may be
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Speaker 1: secret Service or something or maybe just I don't know
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Speaker 1: local local marshals, and we should point that out. Marshal
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Speaker 1: is a term that's used a lot, but unless you
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Speaker 1: are a U S. Marshal, then you're not part of
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Speaker 1: the U S. M say, like, you can be a
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Speaker 1: marshal like some countries have marshals. Is military ranks or
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Speaker 1: air marshals are not related to UM the Marshal Service
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Speaker 1: that yeah, I thought they were. I thought they were
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Speaker 1: U S. Marshals they or not UM. Also, we should
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Speaker 1: say if you are if you're a drug dealer and
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Speaker 1: you get popped for a beef by the FEDS and
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Speaker 1: they take your stuff, it's the marshals who have it.
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Speaker 1: They're in charge of ash st seizure, yes, and distribution
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Speaker 1: to like selling off stuff to give reparation to families
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Speaker 1: and victims and stuff, or to fund the Marshal Service
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Speaker 1: or to fund the Marshal Service picnic. What else can
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Speaker 1: they do, Josh. They have a SWAT group Special Operations Group,
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Speaker 1: which basically does the same thing that SWAT teams do,
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Speaker 1: but for federal stuff. Okay, that makes sense. And um,
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Speaker 1: they once arrested, arrested and making air quotes a fleet
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Speaker 1: of UM eighteenth century shipwrecks off the coast of Rhode
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Speaker 1: Island at the request of the governor UM to protect it,
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Speaker 1: to take it and take these to federal custody and
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Speaker 1: protect them from vandals and UM salvagers. Yeah, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: got a stat on the assets. They currently manage eighteen
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Speaker 1: thousand assets valued at three point nine billion bucks. It's
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Speaker 1: a lot of cigarette boats. And in two thousand ten
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Speaker 1: paid UM victims of crimes about three hundred and fifty
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Speaker 1: million dollars. So they do use it for reparation time
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Speaker 1: some of it. UM. They also made payments to state
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Speaker 1: and low local law enforcement agencies of five hundred and
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Speaker 1: eighty millions, So maybe they repay. Like if you wrect
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Speaker 1: your police cars in the pursuit of this guy, we'll
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Speaker 1: pay you back. Here's some money. We're sell off their
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Speaker 1: stuff and we'll pay you back. Just remember Uncle Sam
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Speaker 1: takes care of you. Uh what else, Josh, Well, the
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Speaker 1: we talked about how the MARS services set up within
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Speaker 1: the ninety four districts and the thirty nine fifty three
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Speaker 1: three thousand, nine fifty three deputies. Um, but how did
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Speaker 1: they get there? Chuck? Apparently I used to have an
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Speaker 1: exam and then now they used the standard federal Career
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Speaker 1: intern program, which it takes a couple of years to
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Speaker 1: get you to make sure that you're not just some
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Speaker 1: jerk too could fill out on application yeah, or once
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Speaker 1: a free gun. Yeah. So you gotta get a pay
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Speaker 1: your dues for a couple of years, and if you've
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Speaker 1: got the right stuff, then you have to go through
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Speaker 1: a seventeen and a half week training course at the U. S.
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Speaker 1: Marshall Service Training Academy in Glencoe, Georgia. Did you did
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Speaker 1: you know the Marshall's Training Academy is here? I didn't,
20:31
Speaker 1: and I didn't even know actually, And it's down it's
20:35
Speaker 1: sort of halfway between Jacksonville and Savannah. It's down on
20:39
Speaker 1: the coast and your St. Simon's. It does ring a
20:41
Speaker 1: slight bell. I think it was not even a place
20:45
Speaker 1: until they put the thing there and they named it Glencoe.
20:50
Speaker 1: I don't know if that stands for anything, but I
20:52
Speaker 1: don't even think that was a legitimate town until they
20:54
Speaker 1: set up a six acre campus that has its own
20:58
Speaker 1: zip code. That's very neat. It's big, um chuck. If
21:03
Speaker 1: you want to become a U. S. Marshal, there's some
21:06
Speaker 1: Now you can't just fill out an application. You have
21:09
Speaker 1: to go through the training program. But even to get
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Speaker 1: into the training program too, on the U S. Marshall track,
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Speaker 1: there's some um, some qualifications you have to have. You
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Speaker 1: have to be a US citizen. Check you have to
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Speaker 1: be between the ages of thirty six. Nope, Um, you
21:27
Speaker 1: could still I could. I'd better hurry up. Being good
21:30
Speaker 1: physical condition, I would say, I'm not, and you're you're
21:34
Speaker 1: so so stuff. So would you say you're in good
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Speaker 1: physical conditions? I would? So you could pass these these tests,
21:41
Speaker 1: I could. You could do the fifty chin ups and
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Speaker 1: run the mile in a certain time over a long
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Speaker 1: enough period of time, I could. A bachelor's degree check. Uh,
21:53
Speaker 1: three years experience in law enforcement or other qualifying job experience. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Valid driver's license and a good driving record. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm good. Well, aside from the age limit, then you're
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Speaker 1: fine in the physical condition, in the experience. So pretty much,
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Speaker 1: I'm a US citizen and I have a driver's license.
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Speaker 1: That's what qualifies me. Uh. There's some famous Marshals besides
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Speaker 1: Tommy Lee Jones and Bat Masterson who I mentioned Did
22:23
Speaker 1: you mention him? Yes? I just got threw him in earlier.
22:26
Speaker 1: Was Marshall Dylan a real person Matt Dylon or was
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Speaker 1: he just a fictional character? I don't think he was
22:31
Speaker 1: fictional character? Pretty sure h TV Baby White Earth was
22:36
Speaker 1: real though. Yea and Virgil and Morgan Earp his brothers.
22:39
Speaker 1: They were all Marshals, as was wild Bill Hickock. And
22:43
Speaker 1: while Bill is the tie that binds the Marshall's podcast
22:49
Speaker 1: and the Swords following podcast because he brought in a
22:53
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Indians set up to the Three Worlds Fair
22:57
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Ah, look at you up in both. Wow.
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Speaker 1: Frederick Douglas had no idea that he was a U. S. Marshall. No,
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Speaker 1: and the Marshall for d C two, which I imagine
23:09
Speaker 1: it is probably a pretty busy district. Did you see
23:12
Speaker 1: you don't watch Louis, do you? No? He had episode
23:15
Speaker 1: of his daughter dressed up like Frederick Douglas for Halloween
23:19
Speaker 1: and apparently that was what he wanted to be when
23:21
Speaker 1: he was a kid one year, so he brought it
23:23
Speaker 1: back years later for a show. Yeah. Um, what else, Josh,
23:28
Speaker 1: they have the most wanted list that is different than
23:31
Speaker 1: the FBI S. Yeah, I remember they caught that one
23:34
Speaker 1: dude in Mexico. They caught one of their own dudes
23:38
Speaker 1: in Mexico that went to the other side, I think too.
23:42
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, he like went Randy Gaiden turned
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Speaker 1: into a drug dealing murderer allegedly, allegedly allegedly these days, Josh,
23:53
Speaker 1: the director is a is a lady named Stacia Hilton,
23:57
Speaker 1: and it was a really controversial nomination actually by Obama.
24:01
Speaker 1: Well she was, um, she's a socialist. Yeah, she has
24:07
Speaker 1: um had strong ties to the private prison industry and
24:12
Speaker 1: the U. S. Marshals is also responsible for awarding contracts
24:15
Speaker 1: to build federal prisons. Oh yeah. So basically it was
24:19
Speaker 1: one of those deals where they're like, hey, she made
24:22
Speaker 1: a lot of money as a consultant for all these companies.
24:25
Speaker 1: You appoint her, and she's going to give her friends
24:28
Speaker 1: the in the private prison industry fat contracts. So she
24:34
Speaker 1: had petitions going around basically, but the nomination did go through,
24:38
Speaker 1: and apparently it was kind of sped through. Huh. So
24:43
Speaker 1: all those people out there we like to call out
24:45
Speaker 1: folks on both sides. We're doing it could go and
24:48
Speaker 1: chuck now, thanks um. And also I should say there's
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Speaker 1: between two hundred and four hundred marshals that have died
24:56
Speaker 1: in the line of duty, since that's not a lot no, um.
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Speaker 1: And the first was a guy named Robert Forsyth, and
25:04
Speaker 1: he went to go serve court papers for a civil
25:07
Speaker 1: case to two brothers, Beverly and William Allen. And uh.
25:12
Speaker 1: He took the Allen brothers aside to say, hey, I
25:15
Speaker 1: don't want to embarrass you, but here's some papers. And
25:18
Speaker 1: rather than come with them, they ran upstairs, locked themselves
25:21
Speaker 1: in the door. When they heard um forsythe coming up
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Speaker 1: the stairs, they shot through the door and it hit
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Speaker 1: him in the head and killed him instantly. So here's
25:28
Speaker 1: the first first marshal shot during the line of duty
25:32
Speaker 1: in Augusta, Georgia. Yeah, and I actually saw that. He
25:35
Speaker 1: was the first law enforcement officer ever killed in the
25:38
Speaker 1: line of duty in the United States. And he wore
25:41
Speaker 1: like powdered wigs and everything too. It was like old
25:43
Speaker 1: timey colonial, just just post colonial. So that's it. That's
25:49
Speaker 1: us marshals, right, that's right. They do a valuable service.
25:52
Speaker 1: And now you know what that is thanks to Chuck
25:56
Speaker 1: and his law enforcement crush. You know you and the
26:00
Speaker 1: Grab story. You guys are kindred spirits for sure. I
26:03
Speaker 1: do watch cops, yeah, do you? Yeah? I mean not
26:06
Speaker 1: like I don't know when it comes on, but if
26:08
Speaker 1: I'm in the right mood and i'm channel surfing and
26:10
Speaker 1: I'll see it's on like nine times in a row,
26:12
Speaker 1: I'll watch five or six of them. Do you ever
26:14
Speaker 1: watch Real Stars of the Highway Patrol? Uh? Yeah, Real Stories?
26:18
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I've watched all those shows occasionally not. I
26:22
Speaker 1: just want to point that out. This happens like once
26:24
Speaker 1: a month. It's not like a no one there. I
26:26
Speaker 1: don't schedule my type and then Emily always bust me
26:30
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh my god, how do you watch that?
26:32
Speaker 1: I's like, well, these people make me feel better about myself.
26:36
Speaker 1: They would make you a fan. Um. If you want
26:40
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26:45
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26:49
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26:53
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26:56
Speaker 1: two ls, which is a name, yeah of person, Yes,
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27:14
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27:17
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27:20
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27:37
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Speaker 1: Our goal is to get to I think six hundred
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27:52
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27:56
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28:00
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28:08
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28:11
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28:14
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28:31
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28:35
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28:40
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