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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to the cover one Buffalo Disguise
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Speaker 1: Coverage Round one reaction with Greg Thompson and Anthony Prohaska. Anthony,
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Speaker 1: is it true that you traded your blueberry up and
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Speaker 1: for additional future blueberries.
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Speaker 2: In this draft class? I would have I would have
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Speaker 2: done that. I think it made a lot of sense,
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Speaker 2: and I did. I'm happy with the future blueberries I got.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of good value for the day two
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Speaker 2: blueberries in this blueberry class, and uh, I'm pretty.
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Speaker 1: Please with it. Yeah. So you are joining us here
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Speaker 1: because for the second time in three years, Anthony and
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Speaker 1: I have been ready to react to the Bill's first
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Speaker 1: round pick, and they have traded out of the first round,
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Speaker 1: although tonight it took them three trades to move down.
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Speaker 1: So this is literally like the mock draft simulator, you
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Speaker 1: know version here with people you know, moving down, moving down,
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Speaker 1: moving down, picking up little bits here and there. We'll
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Speaker 1: go over each of the three trades, all the analysis
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Speaker 1: and and you know trade calculators that I saw the
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Speaker 1: Bills one each of the trades, one of them pretty handily,
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Speaker 1: one pretty close to market value, and then the third
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Speaker 1: one again in between the two, but a pretty you know,
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Speaker 1: solid win per se. We'll spend some time later on,
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Speaker 1: you know, going over some of the best available and
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Speaker 1: some of the guys that we hope for it pick
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Speaker 1: thirty five and other options they can do now with
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Speaker 1: the ammal that they have. But you know, Anthony, just
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Speaker 1: starting off, you know how what is your reaction to
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Speaker 1: how things went tonight? I know appre show we talked
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Speaker 1: about that run up of the four straight picks coming
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Speaker 1: in to pick twenty six was a mix of I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you were on board with all four
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Speaker 1: of them, but the four picks leading up to the
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Speaker 1: Bills pick when a key messidor Malki, Lawrence, Casey, Concepcion
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Speaker 1: and Dyan Theneman as you saw that happen and we
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Speaker 1: got to the pick, where was your head at and
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Speaker 1: where we ended up? Now with the three trade backs.
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Speaker 2: I had always preferred trading back at twenty six over everything.
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Speaker 2: I just think with I don't think the Bills roster
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Speaker 2: currently or even necessarily in the future is in dire
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Speaker 2: need of like, oh my god, this is a hole.
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Speaker 2: They have to get this. But I think there are
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Speaker 2: several vulnerabilities or potential upgrade spots and even just good,
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Speaker 2: good options currently on the roster where they can add
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Speaker 2: cost effective talent and you pair that with for me
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Speaker 2: at least I know for a lot of folks as well,
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Speaker 2: Like the glut of value in this class for me
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Speaker 2: was like twenty five to like seventy five eighty. I
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Speaker 2: don't think I've ever had so many guys in like
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Speaker 2: my top one twenty five board, where I've had so
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Speaker 2: many guys with like like a second round to like
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Speaker 2: third fourth round grade. I keep calling him round like
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Speaker 2: two and a half to three and a half. So
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Speaker 2: I was like, trade back, get me as many picks
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Speaker 2: as you can in the top one hundred or the
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Speaker 2: top ninety. But I told myself, okay, I'd make some exceptions,
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Speaker 2: like if if they took Casey Concepcion at twenty six,
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Speaker 2: I'd be cool if they took KD. McDonald, even if
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Speaker 2: they took Kristin Miller, Malki Lawrence, I warmed up to
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Speaker 2: a little bit, though I did think it would have
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Speaker 2: been rich for him at twenty six. Penemn I questioned
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Speaker 2: the fit and wasn't the biggest fan, but I would
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Speaker 2: have understood, so I honestly like I it would have
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Speaker 2: taken a lot for me to be upset with anything
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Speaker 2: they did at twenty six, Like they would have had
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Speaker 2: to have taken like a tight end for me to
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Speaker 2: be like what like that? That's how like specific it
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Speaker 2: would have gotten. I could have understood or spun a
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Speaker 2: lot of things, not even spun, just made sense of
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Speaker 2: a lot of moves. And the end of the day,
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Speaker 2: I think the first trade got them good value. I
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Speaker 2: think the last trade got them good value. The one
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Speaker 2: in the middle, like you talked about that the Pats
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Speaker 2: maybe kind of a push or you know, are you
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Speaker 2: dancing with the devil because you're helping out the Patriots
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Speaker 2: a little bit? Who knows? But Yeah, overall, I'm pleased,
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Speaker 2: And I think to your point, I think the run
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Speaker 2: of guys right up to them picking. Maybe it's a
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Speaker 2: different story, I mal Ky Lawrence is on the board.
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Speaker 2: I think it. I think it is a different story
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Speaker 2: if Casey Concepcion is still on the board. But I
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Speaker 2: like the Capitol dam mask.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's relative of RJ who's I
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Speaker 1: was in here with us A And I'm okay with
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Speaker 1: them trading back three times after Theenum and a Casey
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Speaker 1: being off the board. The problems problem is they they
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Speaker 1: could have traded up to get one of those guys.
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Speaker 1: We're just adding more depth than we needed. Stars. Most
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Speaker 1: of what you said there, rj is is is correct,
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Speaker 1: except for the idea that concepts aenem in were stars,
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Speaker 1: like once you got past Caleb Downs at eleven, there
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Speaker 1: were no more stars left, like they were a landfull.
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Speaker 2: If you wanted to get the last available star. It
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Speaker 2: air close to it, if you know, depending on how
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Speaker 2: you feel, it was trading up where the Bucks were
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Speaker 2: to get Ruben Ba. Sure, there are not a lot
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Speaker 2: of blue chip or stars in this draft. The whole
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Speaker 2: promise of this draft, even though the draft is pretty
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Speaker 2: much promise every year, was value and useful players, like
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Speaker 2: guys that you can, oh, this guy is a good guy.
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Speaker 2: This guy's a good guy. But nobody here like, oh
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Speaker 2: what a stud. Let me hang my hat on this guy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, don't get me wrong, I like those guys.
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Speaker 1: I like those four players that would have been cool
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Speaker 1: with them. But honestly, like I know a lot of
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Speaker 1: really smart draft people who had McNeil Warren higher than
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Speaker 1: the theene men and who had Denzel Boston had a
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Speaker 1: Casey concepcion and had you know that. Like again, it's
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Speaker 1: all relative to where some of those things are people
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Speaker 1: who have TJ. Parker and Casius Howell ahead of you know,
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Speaker 1: it's just the way that it was framed ahead Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: is what I was gonna say. It's all relative to
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Speaker 1: where those things are. None of those were slam dunks.
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Speaker 1: All of them are in the same tier. It's the
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Speaker 1: same tier, like Theeneman and McNeil Warren are absolutely the
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Speaker 1: same tier of safety. You know, the the idea of
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Speaker 1: Lawrence and Mesador and Parker Howell, whoever else you have
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Speaker 1: in that tier of whether you have Yakis or whoever
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Speaker 1: you might have as Ion Young in that tier of
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Speaker 1: pass rusher, it's in the same tier as those guys.
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Speaker 1: We still have, you know, Kate McDonald and Kristin Miller
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Speaker 1: available to us, and if they want to go with
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Speaker 1: Jacob or Rodriguez or an Anthony Hill or whoever it
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Speaker 1: might be, they have all those options available And honestly,
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Speaker 1: any of them would have been reasonable picks at twenty six,
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Speaker 1: and instead we still get one player who's in that
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Speaker 1: exact same tier at thirty five, plus all the other
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Speaker 1: stuff that we got and all I can tell you
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Speaker 1: is my entire group chat of all my adult friends
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Speaker 1: who are all Cleveland Browns fans are freaking out because
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Speaker 1: the first sentence that they said about Casey Concepcion is
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Speaker 1: ca catch the ball. So I was trying to calm
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Speaker 1: them down that you know his explosiveness and like the
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Speaker 1: dozen muff puns the contested catches, I think he has
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Speaker 1: the concentration drops because he's looking to set up his
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Speaker 1: next move, not because he can't catch the ball. But
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Speaker 1: they'll work on that, dot, don't worry. So let's go
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Speaker 1: through I.
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Speaker 2: Think is his drops to your point, Like I know
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Speaker 2: the Bills did ended up picking him. He has way
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Speaker 2: better hands than he gets credit for. The drops are inexcusable.
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Speaker 2: You can't have drops, but they're more concentration drops, not
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Speaker 2: like that he has bad hands.
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Speaker 1: Correct, RIGHTT So I tried to reassure them of that,
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Speaker 1: but then I let them just willow in they're own
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Speaker 1: misery because it's more fun to do that. So let's
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Speaker 1: go through each of the three trades here and then
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Speaker 1: specifically which picks are left before we talk about maybe
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Speaker 1: our preference going into some of the next moves. So
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Speaker 1: the first trade was a slam dunk. In here. I'm
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Speaker 1: just gonna use Anthony REINERD because he did a really
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Speaker 1: nice job going through some of the like the percentage
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Speaker 1: value gain to show here. So his number one trade
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Speaker 1: of all the trades today was the Bill's first trade,
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Speaker 1: so that the Houston Texans paid like a seven point
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Speaker 1: one percent premium, which was the most extra of any pick.
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Speaker 1: All the ones that I saw showed that as like
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Speaker 1: getting an extra late third to early fourth. Some of
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Speaker 1: the trade value charts had it as a later fourth,
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Speaker 1: but like picking up an extra free third or fourth
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Speaker 1: round pick. Because of what they got. The Bills traded
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Speaker 1: picks twenty six and ninety one, so our first and
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Speaker 1: our third to move down two picks from twenty six
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Speaker 1: to twenty eight, and the Bills got picks sixty nine
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Speaker 1: and one sixty seven, So obviously pick sixty nine very nice.
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Speaker 1: But moving from pick ninety one up to pick sixty nine,
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Speaker 1: you're talking about moving up twenty two picks for moving
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Speaker 1: down two and getting a fifth rounder. So that one
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Speaker 1: was a slam dunk, super super easy. No notes like
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Speaker 1: that's as good as you're gonna get. It was the
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Speaker 1: best value anybody got for any trade today?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I came. I don't do this often, Eric,
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Speaker 2: the fact I hate people that do it. I'm gonna
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Speaker 2: pat myself on the back twice in this episode, especially
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Speaker 2: for the Titans trade. I came close to nailing this
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Speaker 2: one on an episode of This Guy's coverage. I posited
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Speaker 2: the Texans giving thirty eight and sixty nine straight up
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Speaker 2: for pick twenty eight. It was a trade value of
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Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty five for Houston to seven hundred
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Speaker 2: for the Bills. But then I added in like the
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Speaker 2: Bills could add pick pick one twenty six and balance it.
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Speaker 2: So I came decently close with this one. Tennessee was
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Speaker 2: even closer. We'll get to that later. I was fine
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Speaker 2: with this. You moved back two spots in the first round,
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Speaker 2: which again is nothing, especially if you're kind of laying
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Speaker 2: out who's on the board who you're willing to take.
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Speaker 2: And I think the big point too is we'll see
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Speaker 2: who they take at thirty five, and then this becomes
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Speaker 2: more palatable or less palatable for some fans, depending on
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Speaker 2: I've even seen a couple comments it's understandable, right, Like
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Speaker 2: the Bills did this before and so Keon Coleman and
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Speaker 2: we saw how that turned out so far hot, Like
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Speaker 2: I get it, completely understandable. But you moved back two
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Speaker 2: spots the first round initially here and then to move
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Speaker 2: up from ninety one to sixty nine nice, is a
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Speaker 2: huge jump and fantastic and then you get one sixty
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Speaker 2: seven on top of it, which cool, why not? And
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Speaker 2: so that's a nice throw in pick at the end.
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Speaker 2: But to move back to but then move up twenty
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Speaker 2: two and get yourself a pick nice in the middle
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Speaker 2: of day two there. I was very pleased with this one.
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Speaker 2: This was a nice start to back up and yeah,
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Speaker 2: get an extra pick on top of it. You get three,
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Speaker 2: they get two. But that move up from ninety one
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Speaker 2: to sixty nine, really, I think is where I mean,
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Speaker 2: look at the look at the the trade value difference
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Speaker 2: there on his pick, like three pick sixty nine is
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Speaker 2: worth three forty six pick ninety one is where two
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Speaker 2: twenty one. That's a huge jump for the Bills to
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Speaker 2: amass that.
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Speaker 1: And just to help some of our fans listening about
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Speaker 1: the last time we did the double trade down was
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Speaker 1: ended up with Kean Coleman. Well, the time before that
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Speaker 1: we did a double trade down, we ended up with
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Speaker 1: James Cook. So sometimes it works out well, you know,
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Speaker 1: so that the last time that that was, you know,
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Speaker 1: trading back twice at the end of the second round,
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Speaker 1: we ended up getting James Cook out of it. So
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Speaker 1: and I will say, I don't think it's crazy to
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Speaker 1: do the math of the value they got back up
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Speaker 1: moving from twenty six down to thirty five is they
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Speaker 1: basically now netted out the value of the djmore trade
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Speaker 1: like they they got themselves. Basically, Hey, we'll give you
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Speaker 1: pick twenty six for pick thirty five, and djmore is
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Speaker 1: pretty close to what the value of that worked out as.
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Speaker 1: So if that's what you want to think about it
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Speaker 1: as oh man, we didn't get that, Well, now we
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Speaker 1: have sixty nine and we have one oh one, so
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Speaker 1: before it would have been sixty and ninety one. So relatively,
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Speaker 1: like you know, it's not exactly the same. We moved
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Speaker 1: from sixty to sixty six and ninety one to one
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Speaker 1: on one, but relatively they got plus we got an
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Speaker 1: extra fourth and an extra fifth. So I'll say those
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Speaker 1: trade outs so because probably sixty and the extra fourth
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Speaker 1: would get you know, sixty six and the extra fourth
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Speaker 1: is easily up to sixty and one on one in
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Speaker 1: the extra fifth is easily up to ninety one, so
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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. They basically got dj Moore for
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Speaker 1: trading down from twenty six to thirty five, so that's
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Speaker 1: a good good way to think about. It's a great
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Speaker 1: job by Allen's helps we.
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Speaker 2: All cause we got super chat from padd beautiful. Appreciate you, Padden,
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Speaker 2: thank you for being here, thanking you for a super chat.
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Speaker 2: I should have known. Padden says, yes, that's true, but
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Speaker 2: now we have enough Ammo to trade for Tremaine. Looks
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Speaker 2: like hashtag edgements is back on the menu. Boys, Happy
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Speaker 2: draft day, fils. I should have known, Well.
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Speaker 1: We'll played well. The only thing better is if you
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Speaker 1: had been reading it like full go and caught it live.
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Speaker 1: So the only thing better is if he could have
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Speaker 1: buried it like one sentence later in the super chat,
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Speaker 1: because those are my favorite, like where they get me
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Speaker 1: going and I'm reading it and then I catch it
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Speaker 1: like as I'm live in the read but well played bad.
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Speaker 2: I'm so used to because like I'm doing Disguis Covered solo,
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Speaker 2: I'm so used to bringing it up. But kind of
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Speaker 2: proof free to get before I go just exactly that
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Speaker 2: I shouldn't put up there. So yeah, and I scanned
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Speaker 2: quickly and SAWT for Maine and the hashtag. I was like,
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Speaker 2: I know where this is going. Well, plead man.
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Speaker 1: So the next one here again nothing negative technically a
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Speaker 1: slight value gain. The Bills traded pick twenty eight for
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Speaker 1: thirty one and one twenty five. They got an extra four,
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Speaker 1: they got a fourth rounder for moving down three spots.
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Speaker 1: It was basically full value. Technically, they got like the
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Speaker 1: extra value of a seventh rounder in addition, so they
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Speaker 1: didn't lose the trade. They got you know, full regular
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Speaker 1: value for moving down three spots. And again, the one
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Speaker 1: thing I will say is that in both of these trades,
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Speaker 1: I never like it when somebody trades up and then
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Speaker 1: takes a player that I would have wanted, or that
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Speaker 1: we would have debated or we would have had to
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Speaker 1: you know, always sit back and oh man, we picked
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Speaker 1: a receiver and they picked a receiver ahead of us,
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Speaker 1: and we let them trade down. We weren't going to
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Speaker 1: pick a guard in the spot. I get it, you
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Speaker 1: get away. It's you know, Alec Anderson versus Austin Corbett.
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Speaker 1: But like, I don't think we were going to take
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Speaker 1: a guard here early on, So the fact that the
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Speaker 1: Texans traded up for Keelan Rutledge and then the Pats
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Speaker 1: traded up for Caleb Lomu. I was fine with both
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Speaker 1: of those because they was like, all right, well good'
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Speaker 1: that's never gonna hang over my head as like, oh okay,
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Speaker 1: they ended up coming up for the offensive linement because
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Speaker 1: we weren't going to take a tackle. We weren't going
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Speaker 1: to do that. So this one again we didn't like
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Speaker 1: win the trade per se, but trading with the Pats
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Speaker 1: twenty eight for thirty one to one twenty five fair value,
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Speaker 1: we got another fourth rounder and I was fine, Like,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't upset, especially once I saw they picked Lomo.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in a similar boat. I think the most
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Speaker 2: interesting thing is, like Lomo was a left tackle at Utah,
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Speaker 2: So does this mean the Will Campbell experiment at left
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Speaker 2: tackle is over for New England and they're now going
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Speaker 2: to kick him into guard? Maybe? So that's maybe kind
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Speaker 2: of like a trickle down effect for the future maybe
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Speaker 2: that we took part in. But yeah, I this was
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Speaker 2: like the type of deal that I thought was decently
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Speaker 2: realistic for the Bills going into the draft, which was
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Speaker 2: like trade back three or four five spots and pick
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Speaker 2: up an early fourth or something like that, A two
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Speaker 2: for one where the value is somewhat close. You're not
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Speaker 2: doing anything crazy. And again I wanted and I think
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Speaker 2: it made sense a lot in this class where the
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Speaker 2: value of who you're going to get at the back
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Speaker 2: end of round one isn't changing too much from twenty
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Speaker 2: eight to thirty one, and you're getting this extra capital,
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Speaker 2: and I know someone will see all it's like pick
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Speaker 2: one twenty five, Like what does that matter? I'll take
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Speaker 2: an extra fourth round pick in a class where there's
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Speaker 2: going to be value early and in the middle of
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Speaker 2: day three, which in round four is you know, pick
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Speaker 2: one twenty five is still in the middle of round four.
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Speaker 2: You're still early value there, and you're not really moving
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Speaker 2: back for much. And especially if you think, you know, hey,
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Speaker 2: we don't love anybody here at twenty eight, let's move
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Speaker 2: back three spots, pick up another top one twenty five pick. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I say, I like this move. I wasn't over the
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Speaker 2: moon for it like I was. I don't know, I
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Speaker 2: shouldn't say over the moon in general, but I didn't
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Speaker 2: love it as much as the first move or the
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Speaker 2: third move, But I thought this was fine other than
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Speaker 2: the pettiness of being like, oh, New England, you want
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Speaker 2: somebody here.
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Speaker 1: No, So, speaking of that third move, the next one
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Speaker 1: to trade out of the first round altogether they did
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Speaker 1: a three for three trade with Tennessee, but the overall
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Speaker 1: math worked out very well, So again, this one was
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Speaker 1: probably I think I tried to scan through all of
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Speaker 1: Anthony's draft charts here. I think it was like the
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Speaker 1: fourth best value of any trade that happened in the
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Speaker 1: first round, the one of the Cowboys trades and one
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Speaker 1: of the other Dolphin The forty nine ers got a
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Speaker 1: little bit better value of the Dolphins trade up, but
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Speaker 1: I think it was the fourth highest one. The Bills
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Speaker 1: traded picks thirty one, sixty nine and one sixty five
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Speaker 1: for thirty five, sixty six and one oh one, so
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Speaker 1: you know, they traded down four spots to get a
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Speaker 1: slight bump up in their third rounder from sixty nine
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Speaker 1: to sixty six, but then a huge jump up in
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Speaker 1: the fourth in the from a fifth rounder in one
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Speaker 1: sixty five to the first pick of Day three and
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Speaker 1: Saturday at pick one oh one. So I did like
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Speaker 1: how that one came together really well. Again, going from
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Speaker 1: one sixty five to one oh one and getting like
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Speaker 1: a top one hundred player instead of a guy that's
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Speaker 1: you know, a late fifth rounder, I thought was a
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Speaker 1: really nice jump in place. You get the little bump
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Speaker 1: from sixty nine to sixty six. So again, now those
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Speaker 1: first three picks that we have were before we came
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Speaker 1: into today, or even before the DJ Moore trade at
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Speaker 1: twenty six, sixty and ninety one, and now at thirty five,
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Speaker 1: sixty six and one oh one basically recoup the full
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Speaker 1: uh trade for DJ Moore set us up well with
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Speaker 1: another junk coming afterwards.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this now puts the Bills in a spot where
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Speaker 2: I end up liking. So their first pick in this
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Speaker 2: draft as of now is pick thirty five. But now
18:01
Speaker 2: you're sitting You went from having you know, two picks
18:04
Speaker 2: in the top one hundred and then your next pick
18:07
Speaker 2: coming in the one twenties, and now you've got five
18:10
Speaker 2: picks in the top one twenty six, including three in
18:14
Speaker 2: the top one hundred and one, and then you get
18:16
Speaker 2: that nice little split going from thirty five to sixty
18:19
Speaker 2: six to one oh one. I really like this one again,
18:22
Speaker 2: particularly you move back four spots from thirty one to
18:26
Speaker 2: thirty five, but then you move up three from sixty
18:28
Speaker 2: nine to sixty six, Like you said, a huge, huge
18:30
Speaker 2: jump going from one sixty five to pick one on
18:33
Speaker 2: one first pick in round four, if you wanted to
18:36
Speaker 2: present it the biggest silver lining way. You kind of
18:38
Speaker 2: almost got another third round pick there, which is really nice.
18:42
Speaker 2: And this was the one I came close. I positive,
18:46
Speaker 2: you know, from the Bills having picked twenty six, but
18:48
Speaker 2: I proposed Tennessee giving thirty five and one oh one
18:53
Speaker 2: to the Bills for pick twenty six. And then I
18:57
Speaker 2: also mentioned that the Titans having a second rounder at
19:00
Speaker 2: sixty six, which could influence them being more willing to
19:03
Speaker 2: sacrifice one on one, and then the Bills having a
19:06
Speaker 2: fifth round pick at one sixty five that could sweeten
19:09
Speaker 2: the deal and balance out the value. So I got
19:11
Speaker 2: four of these six picks, right.
19:13
Speaker 1: That's wild Man's That's impressive.
19:16
Speaker 2: I was close, Yeah, I uh three, yeah, thirty five,
19:18
Speaker 2: one oh one, and then you nailing it from the
19:21
Speaker 2: Bill side for the most part, so I uh am pleased.
19:23
Speaker 1: Also, heck the fact that there were two other trade
19:26
Speaker 1: downs so you didn't have to do a twenty six
19:28
Speaker 1: that you were able to do it with thirty one,
19:31
Speaker 1: get the other value from those two trades, and then
19:35
Speaker 1: still nail the other pieces here. That's how good of
19:37
Speaker 1: a value they were able to get. So ultimately they're
19:41
Speaker 1: going to walk into tomorrow here, our guy aj Sibolski
19:44
Speaker 1: has a nice list here to be able to share.
19:46
Speaker 1: So nine picks going in with two of them tomorrow
19:50
Speaker 1: on day two as of right now, I'm going to
19:52
Speaker 1: mention my preference here in a bit, and then seven
19:57
Speaker 1: picks on day three. So I I loved all three
20:00
Speaker 1: trade downs. I loved I liked all three trade rounds.
20:04
Speaker 1: I thought they were good value. And again, after some
20:07
Speaker 1: of the guys that came off the board, this is
20:10
Speaker 1: where I was at. I didn't want them to move
20:12
Speaker 1: up unless it was like a Caleb Towns ruben Bain
20:15
Speaker 1: type guy, like, hey, this is a top ten guy
20:17
Speaker 1: that's falling down a little bit if you want to
20:18
Speaker 1: give them some crazy especially when I saw what some
20:21
Speaker 1: of the cost of some of the other trade ups,
20:23
Speaker 1: where I was like, oh well, if teams are kind
20:25
Speaker 1: of discounting where this comes from, let's see where that goes.
20:30
Speaker 1: Dustin here saying with all these picks giving up slots
20:33
Speaker 1: of the paths the Titans. What are your guys thoughts
20:34
Speaker 1: on how great Greg's beard has gotten. So I appreciate that. Yeah,
20:40
Speaker 1: it's it's showing. It's showing quite a bit here.
20:43
Speaker 2: It's distinguished.
20:45
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So luckily, like this is staying nice.
20:48
Speaker 2: I'm not unting any moneymakers the money maker's intact.
20:51
Speaker 1: I So the sneaky part is I keep this short
20:54
Speaker 1: because I am getting gray and silver in my temples here,
20:58
Speaker 1: but I keep it short enough that you can't see it.
21:00
Speaker 1: But yeah, the beard, it is, it is, it is showing.
21:03
Speaker 1: But you know it's okay. I appreciate it doesn't very
21:05
Speaker 1: very much. So I am now at a spot where
21:10
Speaker 1: I liked each of the ones and appreciate TJ very much. Man,
21:13
Speaker 1: you guys are awesome tonight. I'm now at the point where, okay,
21:18
Speaker 1: now we can mess around. Get me back up here
21:21
Speaker 1: one more time, so I want to see, Hey, what
21:24
Speaker 1: does one twenty five, one sixty seven, and one sixty
21:28
Speaker 1: eight get us? Can you get me up to ninety
21:30
Speaker 1: and we can end up there with like thirty five
21:32
Speaker 1: sixty six ninety and one O one. You know so,
21:36
Speaker 1: and then we still would have like one twenty six,
21:38
Speaker 1: so that I would like to combine three of those
21:41
Speaker 1: four in the fourth and fifth round, combine three of
21:45
Speaker 1: those and get me back up into the late into
21:47
Speaker 1: the late third. So then we end up with something
21:50
Speaker 1: like mat fact, I guess I can do it live
21:52
Speaker 1: while we While we're talking here, do you.
21:55
Speaker 2: Think you're so you're thinking like one twenty five, one
21:58
Speaker 2: sixty seven, six and using that to move up into
22:01
Speaker 2: like the nineties, Are you including one on one?
22:04
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no, so Keith starting with one twenty five,
22:07
Speaker 1: So I'd like to take one twenty five one, let's see,
22:12
Speaker 1: one sixty I'd probably do sixty seven and sixty eight.
22:15
Speaker 1: So one twenty five, one sixty seven, one sixty eight
22:19
Speaker 1: gives us fifty. Yeah, it's almost exactly to like pick
22:25
Speaker 1: ninety eight ninety nine.
22:27
Speaker 2: And then you get my dream of having four picks
22:29
Speaker 2: in the top one hundred.
22:30
Speaker 1: Yes, plus you still have one twenty five or one
22:33
Speaker 1: twenty six, whichever one. So then you're talking four picks
22:36
Speaker 1: in the top one twenty six. You're talking, you know,
22:41
Speaker 1: being able to have or five picks in the top
22:44
Speaker 1: one twenty five and four picks in the top hundred
22:48
Speaker 1: and really getting that full value of what's there. So
22:51
Speaker 1: I'd like to use that in you know, again, if
22:53
Speaker 1: it's one on one to move up or whatever it
22:55
Speaker 1: might be. I'm fine with whatever combination. But we've now
22:59
Speaker 1: traded down three. I's gotten enough, ammo, that we can
23:03
Speaker 1: mess around a little bit here, because it could also
23:06
Speaker 1: be moving up from sixty six. You know, you could
23:10
Speaker 1: take take two of those pieces, give me you know,
23:13
Speaker 1: so sixty six plus let's say sixty will take one
23:20
Speaker 1: from each of them. So sixty six plus one, twenty
23:23
Speaker 1: six plus one sixty sixty.
23:26
Speaker 2: Eight the early early fifties.
23:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're now talking that that's gonna let you take.
23:31
Speaker 1: That's like thirty six that gets you up to fifty three.
23:39
Speaker 1: So now now you're talking where you could get thirty
23:42
Speaker 1: five and fifty three and still have one on one
23:45
Speaker 1: and one twenty five. So again that could be where,
23:49
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't know who's going to be
23:50
Speaker 1: falling into that range, but say you do go with
23:54
Speaker 1: McNeil Warren, or you do go with Caden McDonald or
23:57
Speaker 1: something like that here, and then one of T. J. Parker,
24:01
Speaker 1: Cassius Howell, Gabe Yakis, you know whoever it might be,
24:07
Speaker 1: Zion Young is falling a little bit, or you really
24:11
Speaker 1: want to go get a Chris Bell, or you really
24:13
Speaker 1: want to go get a Ted Hurst, or let's say
24:17
Speaker 1: they go with one of the edge rushers now and
24:20
Speaker 1: Kristin Miller is still sitting there at fifty three, and
24:24
Speaker 1: you want to move up from sixty six. They now
24:26
Speaker 1: had the ammo to move around and go get a
24:28
Speaker 1: couple guys that they really like. That sixty six pick
24:33
Speaker 1: is where on a lot of boards, you see Jay Golde,
24:35
Speaker 1: you see Josiah Trader, you see you know a lot
24:38
Speaker 1: of guys who you and Eric have spent a lot
24:41
Speaker 1: of time talking about the fit and the ability to
24:44
Speaker 1: to put one of those guys in here. Kyle Lewis
24:47
Speaker 1: Lee Hunter, Like, I really like a lot of the
24:49
Speaker 1: names in that area, so getting you know, having one
24:53
Speaker 1: there back again now that we kind of recouped that
24:56
Speaker 1: DJ more pick, plus still having the other ones there.
25:00
Speaker 1: I like the flexibility they've got and what they can
25:02
Speaker 1: move around to be able to make something happen here.
25:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, one thousand percent, I'm right there with you, And
25:08
Speaker 2: like even if they stood pat with everything that they have.
25:14
Speaker 2: Now I'd be happy and I'd be fine fine.
25:17
Speaker 1: Picks, and especially the fact that seven of those nine
25:20
Speaker 1: are like fifth rounders and above. You're not talking like
25:23
Speaker 1: three sixth and two sevenths where like, all right, those
25:25
Speaker 1: are basically borderline udfas the fact that you have, you know,
25:30
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth round picks make rosters, like every single
25:33
Speaker 1: fourth matter of fact, the last handful of years, every
25:35
Speaker 1: fifth round pick has made the NFL roster for the
25:38
Speaker 1: team to pick them. So you know, you're talking about
25:40
Speaker 1: guys who are going to come in and play and
25:43
Speaker 1: you know ideally be game day active contributors, special teams
25:47
Speaker 1: or contributing wherever they're at. So like now you're talking
25:49
Speaker 1: seven legitimate contributors that that could be really nice.
25:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, and oh grab this quick another super chat here
25:56
Speaker 2: from TJ. Appreciates TJ then thank you for being here.
25:58
Speaker 2: Think of for a super chat in the comment is
26:00
Speaker 2: I feel like you essentially picked DJ Moore with your
26:02
Speaker 2: first pick in the draft and then moved to the
26:05
Speaker 2: top of rounds two, three, and four. Yeah, I mean,
26:08
Speaker 2: depending we talked about that, you know, briefly, Greg, but
26:10
Speaker 2: depending on how you looked at it, Yeah, we kind
26:11
Speaker 2: of recouped the second we gave up for DJ Moore
26:15
Speaker 2: and then added more capital on top of it, which
26:17
Speaker 2: is a really nice thing to kind of Now it's
26:20
Speaker 2: essentially you traded for DJ Moore, and now it's not
26:22
Speaker 2: like all the draft capital plus the money. Now it's
26:24
Speaker 2: just more like the money for GJA.
26:26
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So yeah, if you had come to me
26:29
Speaker 1: and said, hey, we had to trade down from twenty
26:32
Speaker 1: six to thirty five to get DJ Moore, I honestly
26:36
Speaker 1: probably would have felt better about it than giving up picks.
26:40
Speaker 1: That would have been like, yeah, no, I'm not especially
26:42
Speaker 1: knowing this draft class and like where everybody had the
26:45
Speaker 1: twelve first round grades, fourteen first round grades, nine first
26:47
Speaker 1: round grades, whatever, it was like it was very unlikely
26:50
Speaker 1: we were going to get a first round graded player
26:52
Speaker 1: at twenty six. It would have been like, yeah, we're
26:54
Speaker 1: probably gonna get pretty similar value. And especially the fact
26:58
Speaker 1: that we might have need did one of the non
27:01
Speaker 1: premium positions at a run something d tackle or an
27:04
Speaker 1: off ball linebacker or a safety. I would have been like, yeah, yeah,
27:08
Speaker 1: I'll take that. So yeah, however you want to think
27:10
Speaker 1: about it, the fact that now we got that and
27:13
Speaker 1: kind of lessened the impact of what we gave up there.
27:16
Speaker 1: I like this combination quite a bit.
27:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, one thousand percent. And then if you kind of
27:21
Speaker 2: pair it in with what we were talking about, where
27:24
Speaker 2: what you were breaking down with the flexibility, like it
27:27
Speaker 2: just all now you have more flexibility and ammunition to
27:29
Speaker 2: kind of do whatever you want. Do you want to
27:31
Speaker 2: move up from one oh one? Do you want to
27:33
Speaker 2: move up from you know, sixty six? Do you maybe
27:35
Speaker 2: want to move up from one twenty five closer to
27:38
Speaker 2: one oh one? Like there's there's all these options, and
27:41
Speaker 2: now you've got to your point with having the nine picks,
27:44
Speaker 2: but then having a good chunk of them in round
27:47
Speaker 2: five and above. You've got that flexibility. You can make
27:50
Speaker 2: some noise on day two, you can make some noise
27:53
Speaker 2: early on day three. You could stand pat and still
27:55
Speaker 2: have a good amount of value. You could cash in
27:58
Speaker 2: some of that quantity for quality, like you outlined, I'm
28:02
Speaker 2: happy with where they are. And again it's just because
28:05
Speaker 2: of it's because of the value that's in this class.
28:08
Speaker 2: Like I know, a lot of folks are gonna hang
28:10
Speaker 2: their hat on wanting one specific guy or thinking that, oh,
28:13
Speaker 2: this guy was going to be greater this guy was
28:15
Speaker 2: going to be this. But the fact of it is,
28:18
Speaker 2: you know, you know, and I'm saying this from my perspective,
28:20
Speaker 2: but also I think from how the league is value
28:23
Speaker 2: in the class this year, there's a lot of guys
28:25
Speaker 2: with similar grades between like players twenty five and like fifty,
28:29
Speaker 2: there's not a huge graded difference. And when you're a
28:32
Speaker 2: team that is trying to get some cost effective talent
28:35
Speaker 2: and is trying to you know, kind of patch some
28:38
Speaker 2: holes up a little bit and add some roster flexibility
28:41
Speaker 2: and retool and tweak things a little bit on the
28:44
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball, it helps to have all
28:47
Speaker 2: these swings at the plate and all these dart throws
28:50
Speaker 2: and whatever other verbiage you know you want to do
28:53
Speaker 2: or use there to kind of uh uses euphemisms for
28:57
Speaker 2: the NFL draft, which is a crapshoot at the end
29:01
Speaker 2: of the day, Like there's a reason why teams miss
29:05
Speaker 2: all the time. Like I feel like good success in
29:07
Speaker 2: the NFL draft is almost kind of like a good
29:10
Speaker 2: batting average, where if you're like hitting three hundred, it's
29:12
Speaker 2: like you're only succeeding three out of ten. It's like
29:15
Speaker 2: that's amazing, Like that's.
29:16
Speaker 1: Really you have no idea how much better that is?
29:18
Speaker 1: As I watch Hakeem Butler play in the UFL, like
29:24
Speaker 1: so many guys, you know, there's so many guys that
29:26
Speaker 1: I was so sure we're gonna end up being good,
29:28
Speaker 1: They're like, man, how did that not work out? I
29:30
Speaker 1: don't get it? Or the opposite, How are the Cowboys
29:33
Speaker 1: so awesome at drafting and so terrible at football?
29:36
Speaker 2: Man?
29:38
Speaker 1: How do they keep doing this? Like they're just unbelievable
29:41
Speaker 1: at drafting good football players and it never works into
29:45
Speaker 1: winning football games?
29:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jerry just like doesn't. It's like all things fall
29:49
Speaker 2: into his lap and then he has to find a
29:51
Speaker 2: way to get them to fall back out of his.
29:53
Speaker 1: Last mostly overpaying waiting to play pay players.
29:56
Speaker 2: Usually like he like he feels like too much of
29:59
Speaker 2: a good Like he's a secret massochist that he feels
30:01
Speaker 2: like too much of a good thing. He's like, I
30:03
Speaker 2: can't have that. I have to balance things out with
30:04
Speaker 2: the negative and just screw things up in free agency
30:07
Speaker 2: and what I'm paying guys, and man, Kate Downs Downs
30:10
Speaker 2: and Jalen Thompson is such a sick safety room. That's
30:13
Speaker 2: gonna be so fun for Dallas and Mike Apart. Oh wait,
30:18
Speaker 2: it's definitely crazy for them. But I again, now the Bills.
30:23
Speaker 2: Day two becomes really fun in early day three becomes
30:26
Speaker 2: fun for the Bills even if they stand pat I
30:29
Speaker 2: think they're in a good a good spot, right, But
30:33
Speaker 2: like you said, you could cash in some of those
30:35
Speaker 2: chips and not even sacrifice a ton. You can cash
30:38
Speaker 2: in some of those chips relatively easily for more quality overall,
30:43
Speaker 2: or in certain instances in a vacuum.
30:45
Speaker 1: Yeah. So let's, uh, before we wrap up here, let's
30:48
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about best available here. I'm going
30:51
Speaker 1: to bring up the Ringers Draft Guide. You know, again
30:53
Speaker 1: there's a lot of draft boards there, so this isn't perfect,
30:55
Speaker 1: but relatively is going to show the best available guys
30:59
Speaker 1: that are out here. I might even be able to
31:01
Speaker 1: shrink it down a little bit more.
31:03
Speaker 2: They move when you kind of go over when I
31:05
Speaker 2: like it.
31:05
Speaker 1: It is nice. Their draft guys always really like and
31:08
Speaker 1: it's actually fantastic on mobile too, So I get free
31:10
Speaker 1: promo for the guys over the Ringer.
31:13
Speaker 2: The little the cards moving when you your cursor goes
31:16
Speaker 2: over them. I don't know why I find this extremely
31:19
Speaker 2: aesthetically pleasing. This is like ASMR for me.
31:22
Speaker 1: So again, I think from a Bills standpoint, I don't
31:25
Speaker 1: expect McCoy or Terrell. Regardless of how many people tried
31:28
Speaker 1: to give us a corner in their mock draft, nothing
31:31
Speaker 1: drove me more crazy. Then I was like, do you
31:34
Speaker 1: not see our roster at all? Like you?
31:37
Speaker 2: I understand like the idea of like, oh, they don't
31:40
Speaker 2: have a corner three and corners a premium spot, but
31:42
Speaker 2: also like Benford Hairston and I do think corner three
31:46
Speaker 2: is like a sneaky need and it is a player
31:49
Speaker 2: that'll that will play this year, but it's not a
31:52
Speaker 2: bigger need than what they got going on in the
31:55
Speaker 2: front and maybe even a wide receiver like I just yeah,
31:58
Speaker 2: I get it, but I.
32:00
Speaker 1: Can get it a versatile piece who is hey are
32:03
Speaker 1: they Is it a safety? Is it a nickel? Can
32:06
Speaker 1: they play outside? Is it you know somebody maybe with
32:08
Speaker 1: some size who can you know play in the overhang?
32:11
Speaker 1: Whatever it might be? Like I guess I could see
32:14
Speaker 1: one of those of like, hey, we did add three
32:16
Speaker 1: guys back there, but all three of you know, Terrell
32:21
Speaker 1: and Gardner, Johnson and Stone, are you know, not long
32:24
Speaker 1: term fits for what we need, So having like a
32:27
Speaker 1: legitimate upgrade would have been fine, but you know it
32:31
Speaker 1: was you know there. So although if we picked DiAngelo Pons,
32:34
Speaker 1: I'll get over it. I'll just I'll just watch highlight
32:37
Speaker 1: to the pick six in the in the championship game
32:39
Speaker 1: and go from there. So with you seeing who's here
32:43
Speaker 1: and the work that you've done preparing for this, what
32:46
Speaker 1: is your wish list as we're going to start to
32:49
Speaker 1: pick thirty three, so there's going to be thirty three,
32:51
Speaker 1: thirty four, the Bills will pick third coming in here
32:55
Speaker 1: to start day day two of the draft. What is
32:59
Speaker 1: your board are going to stack it of what your
33:01
Speaker 1: preference would be at this pick.
33:03
Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to yell at me, but I
33:04
Speaker 2: don't want to trade back again.
33:07
Speaker 1: I won't lie. Like. There are more than three guys
33:10
Speaker 1: that I like here, and there's multiple that I would
33:12
Speaker 1: feel perfectly fine with. If they were to do something
33:14
Speaker 1: where it's like thirty five and one twenty six and
33:18
Speaker 1: they end up with like forty and eighty seven or
33:21
Speaker 1: whatever something like that, and they get another top one
33:24
Speaker 1: hundred pick and you get there, I'd be perfectly fine
33:26
Speaker 1: with it.
33:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's just I feel like now I'm like
33:31
Speaker 2: in that the mock draft mode of like how many
33:34
Speaker 2: trade backs can I.
33:35
Speaker 1: Like do what's the record for trade backs?
33:37
Speaker 2: That's exactly it, Like, can I keep going even further?
33:42
Speaker 2: The biggest thing for me, and it's going to start
33:43
Speaker 2: the domino effect going from there. And I feel like
33:46
Speaker 2: it's a conversation a lot of folks have had. I
33:50
Speaker 2: think they need a true run based interior defender. You know,
33:54
Speaker 2: whether you want to label that is the nose or
33:56
Speaker 2: the one tech that we have in previous years, whatever,
33:58
Speaker 2: I don't care, because this person's going to work into
34:01
Speaker 2: the odd front looks and the even front looks. I like,
34:05
Speaker 2: if you could guarantee me that you could get Domini
34:09
Speaker 2: Gorange at like one hundred or one on one, now
34:13
Speaker 2: I should say where they have that, I would be
34:15
Speaker 2: fine not taking Caiden McDonald or Kristin Miller. Now I
34:20
Speaker 2: see they have Miller a little lower. I have Miller
34:22
Speaker 2: and McDonald both in a similar tiar and I.
34:25
Speaker 1: Think this is pretty one of the lowest rankings I've
34:28
Speaker 1: seen for him. So again, this is just one group's rankings.
34:30
Speaker 1: I think most places have Miller closer to that thirty
34:33
Speaker 1: to forty range, but again it's all relative.
34:36
Speaker 2: I think it's funny that they have Miller's comp as
34:38
Speaker 2: Daikon Jones and then Aid McDonald's is an event horizon.
34:42
Speaker 2: That's funny.
34:43
Speaker 1: I will say this is the if there's any great
34:50
Speaker 1: skill for Danny Kelly, his comparisons are unbelievable, Like his
34:58
Speaker 1: comps are hysterical of what he picks for guys. That's
35:01
Speaker 1: so funny.
35:02
Speaker 2: And yeah, for me, I like McDonald, I like Miller,
35:06
Speaker 2: I have them tiered similarly. I actually liked Miller more
35:12
Speaker 2: the more I went through this process, and I liked
35:14
Speaker 2: Caid McDonald less. But I would be fine with either
35:18
Speaker 2: of them at thirty five. I'd be fine with the linebacker.
35:21
Speaker 2: What I'd love to do right now if we could
35:23
Speaker 2: guarantee things like, I give me, give me Caid McDonald
35:27
Speaker 2: or Kristin Miller at thirty five, and then give me
35:29
Speaker 2: Josiah Trotter at sixty six.
35:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, do one of these guys. If you could tell
35:34
Speaker 1: me that we for sure get one of Kyle Lewis
35:37
Speaker 1: Golde or Trotter at sixty six, I big in, I'm done.
35:41
Speaker 1: I don't care who you pick. Pick pick one of
35:42
Speaker 1: the guys that are there.
35:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in with that, that kind of mold. I'm
35:49
Speaker 2: super torn on the edge grouping. I also have Zion
35:53
Speaker 2: Young a little higher. I have Zion Young in the
35:55
Speaker 2: same tier. I had Zion Young, T J. Parker, and
35:57
Speaker 2: mal Ky Lawrence on a similar tier, though they're like
36:00
Speaker 2: different kinds of players. I really like Kroon Crawford from Auburn.
36:05
Speaker 2: He Actually, the more I watched Keldric Fault for Auburn,
36:08
Speaker 2: the more my eyes kept going to twenty four. Oh,
36:10
Speaker 2: I love this comp is Carl Granerson. That's a good comp.
36:14
Speaker 2: I'm horrible with comps and that's why I never made him. Plus,
36:17
Speaker 2: I think they said on fair expectations, so I'm always
36:19
Speaker 2: appreciative of a good one. So yeah, if you could,
36:21
Speaker 2: and I.
36:21
Speaker 1: Like, I will say real quick, I like, I very
36:24
Speaker 1: much appreciate that. Danny doesn't compare everyone to like Hall
36:28
Speaker 1: of famers and like their best like you see a
36:31
Speaker 1: lot of names here, like Derek Hall, Preston Smith, Jabal Sheard,
36:35
Speaker 1: Derek Morgan. Like he doesn't pick like the best possible
36:39
Speaker 1: scenario for every single guy.
36:40
Speaker 2: He tries to be Reggie White, Reggie White, Warren sap like,
36:44
Speaker 2: because you're like, what are you doing? Why is this? Yeah,
36:46
Speaker 2: those guys aren't.
36:47
Speaker 1: So which of these safeties is most likely to be
36:49
Speaker 1: ed Reid?
36:50
Speaker 2: Right, that's exactly Edward Troy, Paul, Roddy Lot You're like, really,
36:54
Speaker 2: for sa Key Wheatley, your comp is Ronnie lot Uh.
36:58
Speaker 2: For the audio listeners, that is, I will say that's funny.
37:02
Speaker 1: For Jayleen Kilgore, I've seen that more than one place.
37:06
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson as the comparison for Kilger, I've seen that
37:09
Speaker 1: more than one place, and again the same thing. If
37:11
Speaker 1: you tell me we can get Kilgore, would that pick one?
37:13
Speaker 1: Oh one? I'd be very pleased.
37:15
Speaker 2: Safety is a weird one. Well, and I want to
37:17
Speaker 2: talk about that, but we got another super chat. Bill's
37:20
Speaker 2: fan sc seven. Thank you very much for being here.
37:22
Speaker 2: Thank you for the super chat. The question with the
37:24
Speaker 2: super chat is if being trades back again, provided he
37:28
Speaker 2: gets good value in return, how far back can he move?
37:32
Speaker 2: And you would be comfortable with the trade. Speaking loosely,
37:37
Speaker 2: if he traded back from thirty five and ended up
37:40
Speaker 2: with something in like the early forties, and then another
37:44
Speaker 2: pick in like the eighties or the seventies, I would
37:46
Speaker 2: take that. So I don't know what tea. I think
37:48
Speaker 2: the Steelers have something comparable.
37:50
Speaker 1: To That's just it's literally exactly what I was looking for.
37:54
Speaker 1: Is who in this range here has to say? I
38:00
Speaker 1: mean Houston again, Cleveland, Casey, Cincinnati, New Orleans, Jamain.
38:03
Speaker 2: He was gonna have thirty eight and sixty No, no, wait,
38:06
Speaker 2: they don't have sixty nine now because we don't have.
38:08
Speaker 1: That any longer. So like Miami having forty three and
38:12
Speaker 1: seventy five, that combination where you're getting two hundred and
38:17
Speaker 1: one points, so the bills at PICKF, you would do
38:21
Speaker 1: that one and then you would give up like one
38:23
Speaker 1: twenty five, like that kind of thing. You would do
38:26
Speaker 1: thirty five and twenty five for forty three and seventy five.
38:31
Speaker 1: That would be the range we'd be looking.
38:33
Speaker 2: For, maybe even maybe Baltimore.
38:37
Speaker 1: Forty five is probably getting close to my limit. I
38:42
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to go a lot lower than that, But
38:44
Speaker 1: if you could get me back into this range in.
38:47
Speaker 2: Fact, to do New Orleans, I'd love to do New
38:50
Speaker 2: Orleans forty two and seventy three, But I think that's
38:53
Speaker 2: probably a little too range.
38:54
Speaker 1: We have to give up. We might have to give
38:56
Speaker 1: up one on one to do that like math wise,
39:01
Speaker 1: or it would actually probably be multi It probably be
39:04
Speaker 1: like thirty five, one twenty five and one sixty seven
39:07
Speaker 1: something like that.
39:08
Speaker 2: I would do that for forty.
39:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's probably the range. I wouldn't want to
39:14
Speaker 1: go much beyond Baltimore's forty five. But yeah, getting somewhere
39:18
Speaker 1: into that range where you're still talking about again, you know,
39:23
Speaker 1: someone in the range of hey, we're probably still getting
39:27
Speaker 1: Rodriguez Hill junior Kristen Miller. You know, say if we
39:31
Speaker 1: dropped like forty two and still got Kristin Miller there
39:34
Speaker 1: and got that extra pick there to where you're now
39:36
Speaker 1: talking about, Oh, so we could then get a safety
39:40
Speaker 1: and the linebacker and a receiver, you know, and you're
39:43
Speaker 1: getting all those in the top one oh one. Now
39:45
Speaker 1: I'm feeling really good where you're telling me we get
39:48
Speaker 1: Kristan Miller and we still get ted Hurst, and we
39:52
Speaker 1: still get Josiah Trotter, and we get a safety and
39:56
Speaker 1: we get let's say it was he maybe Dominic Cornch.
40:01
Speaker 1: You get the d tackle there. So that kind of
40:02
Speaker 1: or I guess if we picked Miller we wouldn't need him,
40:04
Speaker 1: but that kind of offer.
40:07
Speaker 2: The edge from from Auburn there. Yeah, and I'm right
40:10
Speaker 2: there with you. I like arbitrarily kind of set Baltimore
40:13
Speaker 2: at forty five as the limit. But that was a
40:17
Speaker 2: really good question. Bill's fantasy seven think for that thought question.
40:20
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's that's where my head is
40:23
Speaker 1: at for tomorrow and what I'm looking to do. I
40:25
Speaker 1: want to see more maneuvering. I love the aggression. I
40:28
Speaker 1: love picking up the AMMO to be able to move around,
40:31
Speaker 1: especially where there wasn't necessarily an obvious screaming pick, especially
40:36
Speaker 1: with that run of four or five guys right before
40:38
Speaker 1: our pick. So once we got to that spot, I
40:40
Speaker 1: thought that was the best case scenario. Like once Concepsio
40:44
Speaker 1: and Phenemn went off the board, I think that was
40:46
Speaker 1: the best case scenario. Was to be able to recoup value.
40:49
Speaker 1: He won all three trades, two of them by a
40:52
Speaker 1: by a material amount, and put us into a spot
40:55
Speaker 1: where now we have AMMO for today recoup the value
40:58
Speaker 1: of the DJ Moore trade gave us maneuverability. And I
41:01
Speaker 1: know earlier there was a question of how many guys
41:03
Speaker 1: would make the roster, and I said, you know, statistically
41:06
Speaker 1: every fifth rounder has made the roster has made the
41:09
Speaker 1: NFL roster of the last like five six years. It
41:12
Speaker 1: was a while since the last one didn't. But tell
41:15
Speaker 1: me that, like the sixth rounders are fullback and the
41:18
Speaker 1: seventh rounders jack Stonehouse, and all of a sudden, you
41:22
Speaker 1: know you might have all nine guys make the roster
41:25
Speaker 1: to be able to do this, And honestly, you know,
41:27
Speaker 1: we could use a nice injection of young, cheap talent here,
41:31
Speaker 1: and you know we don't need all nine picks to
41:35
Speaker 1: be hits. Like find me three of them that are
41:38
Speaker 1: nice contributors here and then others are just solid depth
41:41
Speaker 1: that we'll see what it turns into. All of a sudden,
41:44
Speaker 1: I'm feeling much better.
41:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. And there's there's just
41:47
Speaker 2: a lot of like like say, safety is a good example, right,
41:50
Speaker 2: Like I'm comfortable going into this year being like, Okay,
41:54
Speaker 2: it's c J and Bishop and then Gino Stone is
41:57
Speaker 2: probably your three, right, But then Gino and CJ are
42:00
Speaker 2: both on one years, so you have to address safety
42:03
Speaker 2: again next year, So do you address safety now? And
42:08
Speaker 2: also like you could address safety now, and you know
42:10
Speaker 2: you could get Bud Clarke att picked sixty six or
42:12
Speaker 2: maybe even like one on one something like that. Maybe
42:15
Speaker 2: you do take a manual McNeil Warren at thirty five
42:18
Speaker 2: and then now you have a cool you know, three
42:21
Speaker 2: safety package for this year and someone to take over
42:23
Speaker 2: the full time role next year. You can cut Geno
42:26
Speaker 2: Stone this year. Sorry Geno. There's not really any dead
42:28
Speaker 2: cap to get rid of them.
42:30
Speaker 1: You can also use like Garter Johnson even in some
42:33
Speaker 1: nickel looks, and you can do you can have some
42:35
Speaker 1: dime looks. You can do some three two six looks
42:38
Speaker 1: like it gives you a lot. I want to give
42:40
Speaker 1: Jim Leonard as much, you know, variability and optionality is
42:45
Speaker 1: what we can't just.
42:45
Speaker 2: Give him much positional fields, yes, yeah, like.
42:49
Speaker 1: I want Bishop on the field all the time. I
42:51
Speaker 1: don't care if any of the rest of them play
42:53
Speaker 1: all the snaps, like use them in the scenarios and
42:55
Speaker 1: spots that make sense. Like I'm I'm perfectly fine with that.
42:59
Speaker 1: I actually had some and put up the idea. You
43:01
Speaker 1: know that there are some of the things where if
43:03
Speaker 1: you're putting Stone more as you know, some spots is
43:08
Speaker 1: just a depth guy. Let him just help be the
43:10
Speaker 1: guy talking to Jalen Kilgore and have Kilgar learn is
43:14
Speaker 1: get him at pick one oh one, and hope that
43:16
Speaker 1: next year he's ready to do that. And then maybe
43:19
Speaker 1: we want one more year out of Gardner Johnson and
43:21
Speaker 1: maybe they switch and Kilger becomes a starter and Gardner
43:24
Speaker 1: Johnson is the third piece, you know that kind of thing.
43:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's a that's like a fun conversation with safety.
43:30
Speaker 2: It's even kind of a similar conversation a wide receiver,
43:33
Speaker 2: where it's like, receiver's not your biggest need right now,
43:36
Speaker 2: but there's a world next year where Kean Coleman and
43:40
Speaker 2: maybe even Josh Palmer aren't on this team, and then
43:43
Speaker 2: you're looking at your only known quantities or DJ Moore
43:45
Speaker 2: and Shakir and a returning Tyrrel Shavers from injury. So yeah,
43:51
Speaker 2: I had Titan says, give me the event horizon, referencing
43:54
Speaker 2: McDonald's call for the rigor that's good. Yeah, I'm I.
43:57
Speaker 1: Could be the Hurst, give me Skylar Pell, give me.
44:01
Speaker 2: Played in so many directions in a positive manner. Again,
44:05
Speaker 2: the Bills would have to really do something so niche
44:09
Speaker 2: to piss me off in this draft because there's.
44:13
Speaker 1: An offensive tackle a state end are running back. Yes,
44:18
Speaker 1: it would have to be one of those things, like
44:20
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? Like honestly, like I'm
44:24
Speaker 1: fine with Corbett versus Alec Anderson, but if they pick
44:26
Speaker 1: a guard, I'd be like, all right, I can understand it.
44:30
Speaker 1: If we're on board with that, I got it, Like
44:33
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, I don't want a guy
44:35
Speaker 1: who's like an outside corner only, but like a guy
44:38
Speaker 1: who's a corner, but he can play nickel, he can
44:41
Speaker 1: play multiple spots, to move around, contribute on special teams,
44:44
Speaker 1: Like I'm okay with that. Like again here this super timing. Yeah,
44:50
Speaker 1: will you go crazy? If the Bills go offensive Garden
44:52
Speaker 1: Round two, I would say.
44:55
Speaker 2: I wouldn't love It'd be okay, I wouldn't love it.
44:57
Speaker 1: At thirty five, sixty six one or a move up
45:01
Speaker 1: is somewhere there, I'd be fine, Like it's it's a
45:04
Speaker 1: reasonable pick. And you know, honestly, one of those picks
45:07
Speaker 1: at one, twenty five, twenty six, one sixty seven, one
45:10
Speaker 1: sixty eight is going to be offensive linemen, like we
45:13
Speaker 1: always refilled the pipeline with guys. From that standpoint, whoever
45:17
Speaker 1: this year's Chase Lunt is or whoever this year.
45:20
Speaker 2: Is, as every team should you should always be taking
45:22
Speaker 2: the same corners and on both sides of the ball.
45:24
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's exactly how you you know, how you build
45:27
Speaker 1: that and find those guys and and develop them, and
45:29
Speaker 1: why we were able to let David Edwards walk without
45:32
Speaker 1: needing to worry like that's why, because we're able to
45:35
Speaker 1: fill those.
45:35
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm right there with you.
45:38
Speaker 1: I am. Any final thoughts for the people now, I'm just.
45:43
Speaker 2: I'm sincerely pleased with what they did for a person
45:46
Speaker 2: who I've said this multiple times, you know, if not
45:49
Speaker 2: for the Jim Leonard hiring, I would largely be down
45:52
Speaker 2: on this offseason for the Bills. I am pretty pleased
45:56
Speaker 2: with where they stand right now. And just again the
45:58
Speaker 2: flexibility that we talked about. Yeah, and then the Sabers
46:01
Speaker 2: one tonight, which is awesome, good comment there in the chat.
46:04
Speaker 2: Oh we didn't make the joke of like, welcome to
46:06
Speaker 2: the Sabers post game.
46:07
Speaker 1: I caught it like I got two minutes in and
46:10
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, I should have done that,
46:11
Speaker 1: said the Blueberries. It would have been better.
46:12
Speaker 2: But even texted about it too, Man, wed we'll we'll,
46:16
Speaker 2: we'll do it.
46:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I agree.
46:19
Speaker 2: I like where they are a lot of flexibility. There's
46:21
Speaker 2: good value in this class that they can still address
46:23
Speaker 2: the multitude of needs if they just stand pat or
46:26
Speaker 2: if they make moves like we talked about, sacrifice some
46:28
Speaker 2: quantity for quality. I am. I am pleasantly pleased as
46:32
Speaker 2: we sit here right now.
46:34
Speaker 1: So one last one here, what are your thoughts on
46:38
Speaker 1: Denzel Boston? Like I I like the I don't. I've
46:43
Speaker 1: I probably unfairly lumped him in as Ken Coleman two
46:46
Speaker 1: point zero, and I didn't want that. But smart people
46:49
Speaker 1: like min Kaimes loves Denzel Boston, Danny Kelly that that
46:53
Speaker 1: we just had his guide up as him nineteenth. Overall,
46:56
Speaker 1: there are smart people who really like Denzel Boston, and
47:00
Speaker 1: I think he can be a Mike Evans Ball winner
47:03
Speaker 1: kind of guy. And if the team, I would say,
47:06
Speaker 1: if the Bills thought he was that, we wouldn't have
47:09
Speaker 1: traded back three times, like you know, like you know,
47:12
Speaker 1: the same idea. I got into that a little bit
47:14
Speaker 1: with our guy Chris Chause on Omar Cooper in that like, oh,
47:19
Speaker 1: we let the Jets snipe us for them, Like dude,
47:21
Speaker 1: we trade it back twice already, Like if we thought
47:23
Speaker 1: Omar Cooper was that guy. We wouldn't have traded back
47:25
Speaker 1: twice already to that spot. We would have taken him
47:28
Speaker 1: like it. Obviously they had a pretty solid grouping or
47:32
Speaker 1: tear or had a guy in mind who was not
47:36
Speaker 1: at a premium position that they knew they could drop
47:38
Speaker 1: back and still get, which makes me think dtackle or
47:42
Speaker 1: linebacker is the pick is My guess is that they
47:45
Speaker 1: were planning to take one of those guys and they
47:47
Speaker 1: knew they could drop back and still get him, because
47:49
Speaker 1: they didn't care if it was McDonald or Christen Miller
47:51
Speaker 1: or they didn't Carafas Jacob Radriguez or Anthony Hill like that.
47:54
Speaker 1: They were just going to pick one of those guys
47:56
Speaker 1: and that they knew they could still get. Hey, we're
47:59
Speaker 1: gonna get one of those four. It this pick, and
48:00
Speaker 1: we're fine with it because we're going to go that direction.
48:03
Speaker 1: So I think it's more similar there. But if they
48:06
Speaker 1: picked Denzel Boston at thirty five after all the other
48:09
Speaker 1: stuff they did, cool, Look all right, I'll figure it out.
48:14
Speaker 1: And then Patten here is saying if we go offensive
48:16
Speaker 1: guard at thirty five, I will celebrate with the three
48:18
Speaker 1: other Bills fans who are fans of keeping Josh Allen alive.
48:21
Speaker 1: I've been standing for it all off season. Again, protecting
48:25
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is always a great idea. I'm never going
48:27
Speaker 1: to be upset.
48:28
Speaker 2: No, and yeah I wouldn't.
48:30
Speaker 1: I it's not my preference.
48:32
Speaker 2: But no, yeah, it's not my preference. At thirty five,
48:35
Speaker 2: I wouldn't love it, but I'd be fine with it,
48:37
Speaker 2: and I'd understand. Even Boston. I have a second round
48:42
Speaker 2: grade on Boston. The thing for Boston that's weird with
48:45
Speaker 2: me is he moves better then he should given his
48:49
Speaker 2: size and frame. But then he's also not as physical
48:52
Speaker 2: as I'd like him to be given his size and frame.
48:54
Speaker 2: Like there's times where guys get into him far too
48:57
Speaker 2: often in his releases and in his stems where I'm like, dude,
49:01
Speaker 2: you're like six two and two hundred and twelve pounds
49:04
Speaker 2: or even bigger than six two, Like push that dude off,
49:06
Speaker 2: like chop his arms, beat him up, like play bigger
49:09
Speaker 2: than you are. And he doesn't do that, But then
49:11
Speaker 2: he'll play big at the catchpoint. He's got great hands,
49:13
Speaker 2: a natural hands catcher, big hands, strong, mits makes really
49:17
Speaker 2: good catches. He's got more shake to him and can
49:20
Speaker 2: move a bit better then he gets credit for for
49:22
Speaker 2: his size. He's not gonna pull away from anyone or
49:24
Speaker 2: run past anybody. I also don't think he's as good
49:27
Speaker 2: of a route runner as I like him to be,
49:29
Speaker 2: but I have I have a solid two on him.
49:31
Speaker 2: I can understand if he would if he was the
49:33
Speaker 2: pick or if people like him. I don't love him
49:35
Speaker 2: like that. I like him enough, but I would. I
49:39
Speaker 2: would rather given where the receivers are now, I'd rather
49:42
Speaker 2: go receiver ideally like later where we're looking into like
49:46
Speaker 2: one oh one, And I'd rather go for that conversation
49:49
Speaker 2: in day three or late day two.
49:52
Speaker 1: And if we go that route, get me a guy
49:54
Speaker 1: with the skill set that oh good. He comes in
49:57
Speaker 1: as our number one punt returner and as our guy
50:00
Speaker 1: who can be ah, he has a roster, a jersey
50:03
Speaker 1: on game day and hopefully develops into more. I want
50:07
Speaker 1: that kind of guy if we do that, which is
50:09
Speaker 1: the Skylar Bells, which is the you know, the those
50:12
Speaker 1: kind of guys to to.
50:14
Speaker 2: You know, if you want Skyler bell or you know
50:16
Speaker 2: Brendan Thompson. I'd like Brennan Thompson from Mississippi State, not
50:19
Speaker 2: just because he's an absolute flyer, but because he's like,
50:24
Speaker 2: he's like a good blocker even though he's small, better
50:26
Speaker 2: route runner than he gives credit for that he gets
50:28
Speaker 2: credit for. Yeah, like I would take him. I also
50:30
Speaker 2: like Dion Burk's, another smaller but absolutely electric receiver from Oklahoma.
50:35
Speaker 2: I think it'd be interesting to see if Bryce Lance
50:37
Speaker 2: is still on the board when you go there. Like
50:39
Speaker 2: the size and the length and the frame later there. Oh,
50:44
Speaker 2: I hate this comment is super chat. I really like
50:49
Speaker 2: Casius Howell and the juice that he brings, but he's
50:52
Speaker 2: just an absolute liability against the run.
50:55
Speaker 1: You can't play like twenty nine inch arms or something
50:58
Speaker 1: stupid like.
51:00
Speaker 2: Don't I don't remember the exact measurement, but his percentile
51:05
Speaker 2: length is the zero percentile I know.
51:09
Speaker 1: I heard someone say twenty nine inches, which I didn't
51:12
Speaker 1: even know was something that would happen, Like with NFL
51:17
Speaker 1: edge rushers thirty quarter, thirty and a quarter.
51:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're small.
51:23
Speaker 1: I should not have longer arms than the an NFL
51:26
Speaker 1: defensive end.
51:26
Speaker 2: It's just so. And in between that and the overall
51:29
Speaker 2: size and frame, like you, you can't play him on
51:32
Speaker 2: the closed side of a formation because it's going to
51:35
Speaker 2: absolutely annihilate it, like if the team if you put
51:37
Speaker 2: him on the close side where the tight end is,
51:38
Speaker 2: and his team runs duo at him, he's gonna get annihilated.
51:41
Speaker 2: And even if he's on the open side, if a
51:43
Speaker 2: team runs like zone at him, like week side zone,
51:47
Speaker 2: I don't love that either. But he's a velociraptor and
51:50
Speaker 2: he's got dip and bended juice. I want that type
51:54
Speaker 2: of skill set, which is why I understood, like oh
51:56
Speaker 2: Malki Lawrence like linear speed, juice, acceleration, even though he's
51:59
Speaker 2: much differs. But compared to Howell, I like Zion Young.
52:03
Speaker 2: I think Zion Young is more of what they already
52:05
Speaker 2: have long strong go through you like, Yeah, not a
52:11
Speaker 2: pass russ specialist, really good against the run. But I
52:13
Speaker 2: think he does enough as a pass rusher combined with
52:16
Speaker 2: his run defense that I like him. I'd rather so
52:18
Speaker 2: I would take Zion Young over Howl if it was
52:20
Speaker 2: between those two.
52:21
Speaker 1: At thirty five, keya morey collin for the Tokyo to
52:24
Speaker 1: no shock. I respect it. So one last thing to
52:29
Speaker 1: close out here, let's each call our shot. We're going
52:32
Speaker 1: to assume they stay at pick thirty five. Who is
52:35
Speaker 1: the pick I think our best case scenario is we
52:41
Speaker 1: get a player that was probably the most commonly mocked
52:44
Speaker 1: player to us at twenty six, and we still get
52:47
Speaker 1: him at thirty five, and that's Kate McDonald. That's my probably,
52:52
Speaker 1: I won't I don't even know if it's actually my wish,
52:56
Speaker 1: but I think that's I think that's the pick that
52:59
Speaker 1: makes the most people happy, because everybody saw that as
53:03
Speaker 1: our pick and like, oh we got him, and the
53:05
Speaker 1: trade dout m I think that's fair.
53:07
Speaker 2: I God bless you. I'm in a similar boat. I'll
53:12
Speaker 2: just because just to give another option, and because they
53:16
Speaker 2: brought this other guy in for a top thirty, I'll
53:18
Speaker 2: say Kristin Miller from Georgia. That'll be my thought. There
53:21
Speaker 2: just has a little more movement to him in his game.
53:24
Speaker 2: I also think he plays against double teams better than
53:27
Speaker 2: Caden McDonald does. But yeah, I'm gonna go with I'd
53:30
Speaker 2: say McDonald or Miller at thirty five, and then I'm
53:33
Speaker 2: gonna say Trotter at sixty six.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I would like our next two picks to
53:38
Speaker 1: be detackle and linebacker and some order. I don't particularly
53:42
Speaker 1: care which order. I'll be fine if it's a receiver
53:44
Speaker 1: or an edge, because those are valuable positions and it's
53:48
Speaker 1: never bad to take a premium position. But if I'm picking,
53:51
Speaker 1: I'd like give me dtackle on linebacker and then move
53:54
Speaker 1: up to get me the best receiver and edge that
53:57
Speaker 1: are still falling receiver, edge, safety, like, get me the
54:01
Speaker 1: best guys still there that we get, you know, hopefully
54:05
Speaker 1: a fourth or a fifth top one twenty five pick
54:08
Speaker 1: Like that's I want to use some of that animal
54:09
Speaker 1: to come and get some of the guys falling there.
54:11
Speaker 1: So again, whether it's like Tabo here saying CJ. Allen
54:15
Speaker 1: or you know, I know you and Eric has done
54:17
Speaker 1: a lot of work on Trotter and or a lot
54:20
Speaker 1: of people like Jacob Rodriguez or Anthony Hill or there's
54:23
Speaker 1: you know a lot of guys in that space that
54:25
Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense here to be a
54:26
Speaker 1: good fit. Give me one of them, and one of them, Biggins,
54:29
Speaker 1: give me one of the big ones.
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Speaker 2: I take that. See Bernard is the other linebacker like
54:35
Speaker 2: makes Jacob Rodriguez. Jacob Rodriguez, I don't mean this disparaging
54:40
Speaker 2: lead for me. At least he's a better athlete right
54:43
Speaker 2: now than he is linebacker. I would like him more
54:47
Speaker 2: for the Bills if the other linebacker wasn't Torell Bernard.
54:51
Speaker 2: I think there's too much same, which is again why
54:54
Speaker 2: I like Trotter. Give me that downhill thumper. I want
54:58
Speaker 2: the guy who's going to literally run through your face,
55:02
Speaker 2: who also has a little more agile and athletic than
55:04
Speaker 2: he gets credit for. But I would like that type
55:08
Speaker 2: of back. I mean also for me, I included Rvel
55:12
Speaker 2: Reese in my off ball stuff. I had recent Sonny
55:14
Speaker 2: styles as my one and two off ball guys. My
55:17
Speaker 2: linebacker three was Josiah Trotter. I have Trotter ahead of c. J. Allen,
55:20
Speaker 2: Anthony Hill, and Jacob Rodriguez. I like c. J Allen
55:24
Speaker 2: and Otavio's point captain of the defense, Like there is
55:28
Speaker 2: something to be said for a dude who comes in
55:30
Speaker 2: as a freshman and is already running the Georgia defense,
55:32
Speaker 2: Like the guy that, like Glenn Schuman and Kirby Smart
55:35
Speaker 2: gave him the keys to a La Roquan and Kobe Dean.
55:39
Speaker 2: He just he's high cut, and he's stiff or and
55:44
Speaker 2: or tight in his hips, and he's kind of top heavy.
55:47
Speaker 2: That scares me. Like the lack of mobility scares me.
55:51
Speaker 2: There didn't change a direction. Like he's fine, straight line,
55:55
Speaker 2: smart as hell. He is the guy to get everybody
55:58
Speaker 2: else aligned and right. He is that quote, you know,
56:01
Speaker 2: the prototypical brain trust kind of linebacker green dot. So
56:05
Speaker 2: I understand, and I think that'll help Alan have a
56:07
Speaker 2: decently successful career. But that lower body just scares me.
56:11
Speaker 2: That the how the high cut, and the stiffness and
56:14
Speaker 2: tightness and the hips, it scares me.
56:16
Speaker 1: What position do you see Kyle Lewis as in the NFL?
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Speaker 2: I see him as. I see him as more of
56:24
Speaker 2: like the overhang apex big nickel type of dude. I
56:28
Speaker 2: don't think he's a I don't think he's His game
56:32
Speaker 2: is suited to be like an actual linebacker linebacker, like
56:36
Speaker 2: an actual off ball guy, because I don't want him
56:38
Speaker 2: fitting the run like regularly in the A gap or
56:42
Speaker 2: B gap like I don't want him doing that. I
56:43
Speaker 2: don't mind him doing that if I'm like I'm running
56:45
Speaker 2: a blitzer, I'm running some kind of pressure package and
56:47
Speaker 2: he's going. But I see him as more of you
56:49
Speaker 2: know those teams who are trying to recreate Nick m
56:53
Speaker 2: and worry Uh type of deal. I see him as
56:55
Speaker 2: more of like a big Nickel apex overhang, some guy
56:58
Speaker 2: who changes the math because he can. He can, you know,
57:03
Speaker 2: if the motion happens, he can get pulled into the
57:05
Speaker 2: box and still kind of function. But I see him
57:07
Speaker 2: as more of a guy operating in space with how
57:09
Speaker 2: smart and long and athletic he.
57:11
Speaker 1: Is, or like if you're alternate at Nickel was a
57:16
Speaker 1: d Alford type, you could have have a Kyle Lewis
57:20
Speaker 1: and first and second down and d Alford and third down.
57:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what's interesting too, like even just
57:25
Speaker 2: that conversation in general, like there is there's nothing keeping
57:32
Speaker 2: the bills from like just being locked into d Alford,
57:37
Speaker 2: like no disrespect, Like they can easily go with a
57:40
Speaker 2: big Nickel type of package if everything kind of falls
57:44
Speaker 2: the right way, like if they decide like, hey, you
57:46
Speaker 2: know what, like Kyle Lewis, dude who's like five to eleven,
57:49
Speaker 2: like two hundred and twenty pounds, like he is that
57:52
Speaker 2: kind of big Nickel. The range, the athleticism, like let's
57:55
Speaker 2: kind of take advantage of that, like the athleticism, the
57:57
Speaker 2: size and frame, like if the board is the right way,
58:00
Speaker 2: you could do that. I mean, hell, you mentioned a
58:03
Speaker 2: little bit, although you know CJ. Garner Johnson isn't going
58:06
Speaker 2: to match up with all the types of guys in
58:08
Speaker 2: the slot. You could take a manual mc Neil Warren
58:11
Speaker 2: and then you could platoon that nickel spot between CJ
58:14
Speaker 2: and Alford depending on who's out there, Like, oh, it's
58:17
Speaker 2: more of like Zakias who torched Bishop in the preseason
58:20
Speaker 2: last year. It's that type of guy in the slot.
58:22
Speaker 2: Let's get d Alford out there. Or if it's a
58:24
Speaker 2: power slot or a tight end, put CJ in the
58:26
Speaker 2: slot there, or you could even do that with Bishop
58:28
Speaker 2: a little bit, or a manual make Neil Warren. So
58:30
Speaker 2: I think the idea of them getting like a positionless player,
58:33
Speaker 2: I hate using that because it's so overused. That's really
58:36
Speaker 2: interesting because we're we're out of the time where it
58:39
Speaker 2: was like, well they have tarn and their nickel defense,
58:42
Speaker 2: so they're not going to do anything like that now.
58:43
Speaker 2: It's no disrespect. It's it's d Alford who they could
58:47
Speaker 2: easily platoon with or jump in with someone.
58:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta go to bed. So folks appreciate you. Guys.
58:55
Speaker 1: Chat was awesome here tonight. We will be back here
58:57
Speaker 1: with you tomorrow night and actually talking about players the
59:00
Speaker 1: Bills pick. I feel confident that tomorrow night we will
59:03
Speaker 1: actually have players picked by the Buffalo Bills.
59:06
Speaker 2: They're going to amass the most fourth round picks in NFL.
59:09
Speaker 1: History and history in history. My wish tomorrow isn't a
59:14
Speaker 1: player at thirty five, isn't a player at sixty six.
59:17
Speaker 1: My wish is that we're talking about three draft picks tomorrow.
59:21
Speaker 1: That's my wish. I want to be talking about three
59:25
Speaker 1: players that we picked tomorrow because we moved up from
59:28
Speaker 1: one twenty five. We moved up from that area to
59:31
Speaker 1: get us one more in the third round there. So
59:34
Speaker 1: let's see. As you guys said, Anthony and I are
59:37
Speaker 1: both hoping for some combination of like a Miller McDonald
59:41
Speaker 1: plus a Trotter or a Golde or somebody fun there
59:44
Speaker 1: to fill the needs at dtackle and linebacker. Maybe we
59:47
Speaker 1: come and get a fun wide receiver, safety or something
59:49
Speaker 1: cool there so should be a lot more fun. Appreciate
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