Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / The US Department Of Justice Motion To Dismiss The Epstein Survivor Lawsuit (Part 2) (11/1/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're going to pick up
- 0:07Speaker 1: with the United States government and their motion to dismiss
- 0:11Speaker 1: the lawsuit filed by the Epstein survivors. C. Causation. Plaintiffs
- 0:18Speaker 1: fully ignore the defendant's argument that plaintiff's causation theory runs
- 0:22Speaker 1: contrary to the constitutionally vested discretion of charging decisions within
- 0:27Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. Rather, plaintiffs attempt to sidestep the
- 0:31Speaker 1: issue by stating that the court has already decided the
- 0:34Speaker 1: question and it should not be raised at the MTD stage. However,
- 0:39Speaker 1: by failing to substantively respond to the defendant's causation argument
- 0:43Speaker 1: that the only way to prevent harm to future victims
- 0:46Speaker 1: was for prosecutors to charge Epstein with criminal offenses to
- 0:50Speaker 1: get him off the streets, plaintiffs have waived or abandoned
- 0:53Speaker 1: all of their potential counter-arguments. Jones v. Bank of America,
- 0:57Speaker 1: 11th Circuit, 2014. When a party fails to respond to
- 1:01Speaker 1: an argument or otherwise address a claim, the court deems
- 1:04Speaker 1: such argument or claim abandoned. Citing Hudson v. Norfolk, 2001.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Katzoff v. NCL, Bahamas. Southern District of Florida, July 14, 2021.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Finding plaintiff's arguments about expert opinions to be abandoned and
- 1:21Speaker 1: deeming those opinions inadmissible. Carter v. BPCL Management, Florida 14th, 2021.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Plaintiff's refusal to refute any arguments in defendant Dalbert motion
- 1:34Speaker 1: operates as a waiver for those arguments and is akin
- 1:37Speaker 1: to a failure to respond. As the government argued in
- 1:41Speaker 1: defendant's motion and plaintiffs failed to rebut in their response,
- 1:45Speaker 1: the plaintiff's entire causation allegation is premised on the constitutionally
- 1:49Speaker 1: vested discretion of the Department of Justice to charge Epstein
- 1:53Speaker 1: with criminal offenses, in order to get him off the streets,
- 1:56Speaker 1: and thus this case cannot continue. The 11th Circuit has
- 2:00Speaker 1: already determined that decision not to charge Epstein was within
- 2:04Speaker 1: the constitutionally vested discretion of the U.S. Attorney's Office. D.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Undertaking Doctrine In Plaintiff's FAC and their response, plaintiffs attempt
- 2:15Speaker 1: to hold the FBI accountable as a private person, yet
- 2:18Speaker 1: at the same time, allege that the FBI undertook law
- 2:21Speaker 1: enforcement services to protect the American people, and therefore owed
- 2:25Speaker 1: a duty to plaintiffs. DE 115 at page 12. Plaintiffs
- 2:30Speaker 1: cannot have it both ways. The plaintiffs cannot allege the
- 2:33Speaker 1: FBI owes them the same duty to the plaintiffs as
- 2:36Speaker 1: a private person would. If the only reason that alleged
- 2:40Speaker 1: duty exists is because the FBI is an investigative agency
- 2:44Speaker 1: of the government, it's illogical. Further, plaintiffs argue that had
- 2:48Speaker 1: the FBI appropriately responded to complaints... and investigated tips, plaintiff
- 2:53Speaker 1: would not have been raped, molested, trafficked, and abused. However,
- 2:58Speaker 1: the government points out in the defendant's motion, it is
- 3:02Speaker 1: the prosecutor's discretionary decision whether or not to bring charges
- 3:06Speaker 1: that can potentially get a criminal off of the streets,
- 3:08Speaker 1: not the FBI's. More importantly, plaintiffs have still failed to
- 3:12Speaker 1: allege a duty that meets the requirement of Rule 8.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Plaintiffs state that their case is identical to Marjory Stoneman
- 3:19Speaker 1: Douglas's but such statements, apart from being sheer hyperbole, are misguided.
- 3:26Speaker 1: In Marjory Stoneman Douglas, the court found the FBI violated
- 3:30Speaker 1: its duty by failing to do the most basic task,
- 3:32Speaker 1: providing a tip to the local FBI field office for evaluation,
- 3:37Speaker 1: after assuring the caller that the information would be provided
- 3:40Speaker 1: to the correct people. Judge Dimitrialis never found that the
- 3:45Speaker 1: FBI was negligent for failing to investigate, rather the negligence
- 3:49Speaker 1: and Marjory Stoneman Douglas stem solely from the public access line,
- 3:53Speaker 1: failure to provide information to the FBI agents for assessment
- 3:57Speaker 1: at the local field office. This is especially true given
- 4:01Speaker 1: that the PAL voluntarily undertook to serve as a central
- 4:05Speaker 1: repository and conduit for information, and to handle and relay
- 4:09Speaker 1: that information to the agency's agents and analysts. No such
- 4:14Speaker 1: allegation or failure exists here, The callers identified by the
- 4:18Speaker 1: plaintiffs spoke directly to FBI agents, not an employee of PAO.
- 4:23Speaker 1: The FBI agents then were able to make a decision
- 4:26Speaker 1: whether to pursue the information provided or not, as is
- 4:29Speaker 1: the FBI's discretionary decision under the FBI's non-mandatory investigative policies.
- 4:36Speaker 1: And importantly, there was never an undertaking to protect third
- 4:39Speaker 1: persons similar to that of Marjory Stoneman Douglas. Additionally, while
- 4:44Speaker 1: plaintiffs may not need to show reasonable reliance, they must
- 4:47Speaker 1: still plead a reliance claim that's plausible. Determining whether a
- 4:53Speaker 1: complaint states a plausible claim for relief will be a
- 4:56Speaker 1: context-specific task that requires the reviewing court to draw on
- 5:00Speaker 1: its judicial experience and common sense. Here, it's not plausible
- 5:04Speaker 1: that callers relied on the FBI years after their calls
- 5:07Speaker 1: were placed and after being hung up on or not
- 5:10Speaker 1: actually ever speaking with anyone from the FBI with absolutely
- 5:13Speaker 1: zero follow-up. The reliance by the caller in Marjory Stoneman
- 5:18Speaker 1: Douglas lasted about a month. The alleged reliance alleged here
- 5:22Speaker 1: spans over two decades. Using the court's common sense, reliance
- 5:26Speaker 1: over the course of two decades cannot be deemed plausible. E.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Zone of Risk Doctrine Again, plaintiffs attempt to plead a
- 5:34Speaker 1: duty by the FBI for the sole fact that the
- 5:37Speaker 1: FBI is an investigative agency of the government. However, the
- 5:41Speaker 1: plaintiffs have to plead, a duty under Rule 8, that
- 5:44Speaker 1: the FBI would be liable as a private person. The
- 5:47Speaker 1: mere fact that the FBI can investigate does not create
- 5:50Speaker 1: a duty. As discussed in defendant's motion, Marjory Stoneman Douglas,
- 5:54Speaker 1: while starkly different in the level of detail at the
- 5:57Speaker 1: pleading stage and time periods, its closest comparison to the
- 6:01Speaker 1: facts of this case and a comparison with Marjory Stoneman
- 6:04Speaker 1: Douglas makes clear that no duty was properly pled here.
- 6:08Speaker 1: Unlike Marjory Stoneman Douglas, where the court found that a
- 6:11Speaker 1: foreseeable zone of risk was created when the FBI created
- 6:15Speaker 1: and operated the PAL, thus limiting callers to speaking to
- 6:19Speaker 1: an employee in West Virginia as opposed to an FBI
- 6:22Speaker 1: agent at a field office. The FBI did nothing in
- 6:25Speaker 1: this case to create such a zone of risk. Further,
- 6:29Speaker 1: the plaintiffs have not alleged anything other than the conclusory
- 6:32Speaker 1: allegation of failure to investigate, which does not meet the
- 6:36Speaker 1: pleading requirement of Rule 8, to plausibly allege a duty
- 6:39Speaker 1: under the zone of risk doctrine. Notably, plaintiffs in their
- 6:43Speaker 1: response point to the closing of the FBI's investigation. However,
- 6:47Speaker 1: the closing of the investigation was a result of the U.S.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Attorney's Office decision to enter into a non-prosecution agreement with Epstein,
- 6:55Speaker 1: a constitutionally vested discretionary decision, not an independent decision of
- 7:00Speaker 1: the FBI. Thus, reliance on the allegation is unfounded. Plaintiffs'
- 7:05Speaker 1: reliance on the Stevens case is also misguided. In Stevens,
- 7:09Speaker 1: the court found a duty under the foreseeable zone of
- 7:12Speaker 1: risk doctrine because the government had failed to secure proper
- 7:15Speaker 1: safety procedures for the shipping and handling of anthrax. And
- 7:19Speaker 1: as a result, the anthrax was intercepted and ended with
- 7:22Speaker 1: the person's death. The fact in Stevens are starkly different
- 7:26Speaker 1: from the facts of this case. In Stevens, the United
- 7:29Speaker 1: States had knowledge of missing anthrax and despite that knowledge,
- 7:32Speaker 1: failed to implement security measures for the handling and shipping
- 7:36Speaker 1: of materials. In contrast, the plaintiffs in this case simply
- 7:40Speaker 1: allege the FBI made the decision not to investigate their claims. However,
- 7:45Speaker 1: as the defendant has already pointed out, when the government
- 7:48Speaker 1: is still in the process of investigating and deciding whether
- 7:51Speaker 1: to prosecute, its authority and discretion are understood to be exclusive. Therefore,
- 7:57Speaker 1: the decision of the FBI agents not to pursue a
- 7:59Speaker 1: tip is within the FBI's discretion and does not create
- 8:02Speaker 1: a duty to investigate further. And even if the FBI
- 8:05Speaker 1: had a duty to investigate, Such investigation occurred, which culminated
- 8:10Speaker 1: in an 82-page prosecution memo and a 53-page draft indictment. Plainly,
- 8:16Speaker 1: the plaintiffs have not plausibly alleged a duty under the
- 8:19Speaker 1: zone of risk doctrine, and this claim should be dismissed. 2.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Jurisdictional defenses cannot be waived. Plaintiffs argue that the government
- 8:29Speaker 1: is precluded from asserting a some certain defense, as it
- 8:32Speaker 1: did not do so in the previous briefing. However, plaintiffs
- 8:36Speaker 1: misconstrue the federal rules of civil procedure and 11th Circuit precedent.
- 8:41Speaker 1: While Rule 12G2 precludes certain defenses from being raised after
- 8:46Speaker 1: the first Rule 12 motion, Rule 12H3 makes clear that
- 8:50Speaker 1: subject matter jurisdiction defenses can be raised and considered by
- 8:54Speaker 1: the court at any time. That are Civ P12, and
- 8:59Speaker 1: in fact the court, has an independent duty regardless of
- 9:02Speaker 1: any arguments raised by the parties to assure itself of
- 9:05Speaker 1: its own jurisdiction to hear the case. It's clear from
- 9:09Speaker 1: the 11th Circuit precedent that the some certain requirement under
- 9:13Speaker 1: the FTCA is a jurisdictional one. The presentation requirement is
- 9:19Speaker 1: meant to give agencies an opportunity to settle suits before
- 9:22Speaker 1: litigation commences, which in turn can ease court congestion and
- 9:26Speaker 1: avoid unnecessary litigation, while making it possible for the government
- 9:31Speaker 1: to expedite the fair settlement of tort claims asserted against
- 9:34Speaker 1: the United States. Further, although it's true that the 11th
- 9:39Speaker 1: Circuit has stated that it takes a somewhat lenient approach
- 9:42Speaker 1: to the some certain requirement, we have held that the
- 9:45Speaker 1: FTCA requires at a minimum the claimant expressly claim a
- 9:48Speaker 1: some certain or provide documentation which will allow the agency
- 9:52Speaker 1: to calculate or estimate the damages to the claimant. Here
- 9:56Speaker 1: a plaintiff submitted only SF-95 forms. without any supporting documentation
- 10:02Speaker 1: that would provide the government the ability to calculate or
- 10:05Speaker 1: estimate the damage to the claimant. Without a sum certain
- 10:08Speaker 1: expressly included on the administrative claim or supporting documentation included
- 10:13Speaker 1: to help the government calculate the damages, the sum certain
- 10:16Speaker 1: requirement has not been met. and the claims are jurisdictionally
- 10:20Speaker 1: barred from proceeding. Thus, in multiple claimant actions under FTCA,
- 10:25Speaker 1: each claimant must individually satisfy the jurisdictional prerequisite of filing
- 10:29Speaker 1: a proper claim. Because Jane Doe's 13, 21, and 29
- 10:34Speaker 1: fail to present as uncertain, this court lacks subject matter
- 10:37Speaker 1: jurisdiction over their claims and they must be dismissed. Conclusion
- 10:42Speaker 1: The defendant respectfully requests that the court dismiss the case
- 10:46Speaker 1: in its entirety and without further leave to amend, as
- 10:49Speaker 1: further amendments would be futile. Plaintiffs that continuously fail to
- 10:53Speaker 1: meet the pleading requirement of Rule 8, fail to properly
- 10:56Speaker 1: assert subject matter jurisdiction, and fail to state a claim
- 10:59Speaker 1: upon which relief can be granted. As such, dismissal is warranted.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Request for Hearing Pursuant to Local Rule 7.1b, defendant respectfully
- 11:09Speaker 1: reasserts and requests for a hearing on its motion to dismiss.
- 11:14Speaker 1: The defendant believes the hearing is would help clarify the
- 11:17Speaker 1: issues and give the court the opportunity to ask any
- 11:19Speaker 1: questions necessary for resolution of the defendant's motion. The defendant
- 11:24Speaker 1: anticipates one hour would be needed for such a hearing.
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