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NFL Week 18 DFS Saturday Slate Strategy | DraftKings FanDuel Picks and Optimal Builds · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody Happy Friday. I hope you've had
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  Speaker 2: good New Year, good holidays, and maybe enjoying some time
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  Speaker 2: off from work last week of the regular season. What
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  Speaker 2: the NFL did do is they flexed the two very
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  Speaker 2: important games this Saturday, which is awesome because it leads
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  Speaker 2: us with a sick two games Saturday slate, big prizes
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  Speaker 2: to you twice in one week. That's so rare. It's uh.
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  Speaker 2: baseball and basketball. You're on Fridays. I'm not uh so. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the FanDuel street, so I'm excited. We will go DraftKings
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, doing great? Yeah, feelings mutual over here is
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  Speaker 3: always good to pick your brain here here your side
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  Speaker 3: of things. But man, Draftking really put on some h
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  Speaker 3: boy prize pools two. You know, very good games. I
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  Speaker 3: know you're gonna get into the kind of scenarios and
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to talking through it, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: hopefully I hope we get in a ship er as we
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  Speaker 3: as we end the season.
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  Speaker 2: I thought for your for some reason, you're a Panther fan,
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  Speaker 2: but aren't aren't you a Titan fan? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I live in Nashville, so just south. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so I guess about defaultup. They're both terrible franchises, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a Titans guy. Bye bye. Just about location.
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  Speaker 2: as you see above, because we got two games on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: We got a whole NFL slate on Sunday, and it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty cool because how they have it spread out. They
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  Speaker 2: jam all the games is the afternoon slate and the
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  Speaker 2: early slates are really solid as well. So a lot
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  Speaker 2: of different slates there. But yeah, what an awesome Saturday, Joanne.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see. I hope everyone had a happy New Year. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what we're playing for in these two games, it's four
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  Speaker 2: thirty eastern and eight eastern. Carolina and Tampa are playing
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  Speaker 2: for the South. If the Panthers win, they are in
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  Speaker 2: they get the four seed. And then for Tampa, if
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  Speaker 2: they win, they would then need a Saints win over
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  Speaker 2: the Falcons for that. So but that's on Saturday, that
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  Speaker 2: is before the Falcons in the Saints game, so they
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  Speaker 2: will be playing all out and then Seattle San Franz
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  Speaker 2: that's for the one seed. So it's a full go.
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  Speaker 2: What a football game that will be? Any initial thoughts
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  Speaker 2: ham on just a real life portion of these games
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  Speaker 2: before getting the DFS aspects any leans, Yeah, No, I
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  Speaker 2: mean I.
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  Speaker 3: Think the night game is you know, I'm more interested
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  Speaker 3: in watching that right battle for the one seed, two
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  Speaker 3: really good teams. I mean, the Super Bowl in essence
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  Speaker 3: is going to go through one of those two, right
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  Speaker 3: because they would be the one seed. So that game
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  Speaker 3: is going to be good. I mean, the Bucks have
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  Speaker 3: had every opportunity to take this South and they've just
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  Speaker 3: they've just crapped the bed title. They look they look awful,
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  Speaker 3: but they're kind of like one and a half games
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  Speaker 3: away from from getting in the playoffs and then who
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  Speaker 3: knows what can happen. But I'm really looking forward to
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  Speaker 3: that game Saturday night, like you alluded to it cannot
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we'll be able top that Bears Niners
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  Speaker 3: game that we saw last Sunday. That game was sick
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  Speaker 3: from just a real life perspective in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, we've seen a lot of really good football games.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Bears Packers. It feels like the Bears
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  Speaker 2: are in a great game every week. Got so close.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm really excited for these. As far as DFS,
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  Speaker 2: let's just sort that like ownership. We're gonna go position
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  Speaker 2: by position like always, but you can make a broad
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  Speaker 2: slid overview very clear. JSN Christian McCaffrey will be the
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  Speaker 2: highest owned players on the slate by a good margin.
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  Speaker 2: We have taken the averages ship Nation and saber Sim,
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  Speaker 2: which again you do get on that five day, nineteen
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  Speaker 2: dollars package. You do get SABERSIM and access to the discord,
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  Speaker 2: but seventy five percent. The reason for that, if you
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  Speaker 2: go to running back and sort by projection about eight
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  Speaker 2: points seven and a half McCaffrey to the next highest,
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  Speaker 2: which is Bucky Irving, and then for wide receivers twenty
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  Speaker 2: two for JSN Ted at thirteen. They just separate the
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  Speaker 2: position so much, and fandom has done a better job.
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  Speaker 2: When we go there, it's still pretty similar. But the
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  Speaker 2: pricing at quarterback like it's it's ridiculous. Sixty three is
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  Speaker 2: the highest, fifty eight to fifty six forty eight. It
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  Speaker 2: is easy to spend down or your I mean you
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  Speaker 2: can't spend that quarterback essentially, last thing tight end. You
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  Speaker 2: can see two people getting all the ownership Kittle Barner
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  Speaker 2: good When you sort by projection, no one else projected
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  Speaker 2: over six besides those two. So broad Slate is going
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  Speaker 2: to be one of, if not two, of Kittle Barner,
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  Speaker 2: JSN McCaffrey. That's like the chalk build to start it off, Ham,
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  Speaker 2: I say, we get right into the quarterback position again.
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  Speaker 2: I talked about pricing doesn't mean much. Where you going here,
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  Speaker 2: it looks like it is very spread out. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think I will be playing all four quarterbacks right know,
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  Speaker 2: I will be with a lot of teams, But if
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  Speaker 2: you're only playing a couple, how do you see this position?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, as we get into this show, I'm interested to
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  Speaker 3: hear your take on player incentives. I mean I put
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  Speaker 3: I put some stock into that, and so I like
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  Speaker 3: I like the guys in the Nightcap. I like Donald,
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  Speaker 3: who needs three tds which would be tough, but Nelso
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  Speaker 3: needs a buck fifty to make a bunch of money.
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  Speaker 3: And then Party Party has been playing out of his mind.
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  Speaker 3: But I do have Donald number one. We saw what
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Williams did to this this this forty nine Ers defense.
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  Speaker 3: This forty nine ers defense is beat up and hasn't
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  Speaker 3: been good in my opinion for quite some time. We
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  Speaker 3: obviously got JSM, we got Barner, who I really like.
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  Speaker 3: I think Shaheed is gonna play. I saw today Cooper Cup,
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  Speaker 3: you know, not who he used to be, but you
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  Speaker 3: know still has you know, still has a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of juice, I guess. And then a four game or
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  Speaker 3: four team slate. I think he's in play. So Darnold
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  Speaker 3: is my number one. And then Brock party Man. Brock
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  Speaker 3: Purty five touchdowns last week two on the ground. But
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  Speaker 3: I think this Seattle defense is is top eight, so
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  Speaker 3: he would be number two for me, and then man
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  Speaker 3: Bryce Young had forty eight hundred dollars. I think he's
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  Speaker 3: so I'll steal your word, cheeks title. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: he is any good for dollars against this defense. We
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  Speaker 3: know this Tampa Bay defense, who's gonna miss They're missing
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  Speaker 3: Jamel Dean one of their corners. So you know, we'll
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  Speaker 3: talk about Ted when we get there. But I don't
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  Speaker 3: love Bryce and then Baker. I said it earlier, like
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  Speaker 3: he just hasn't been playing good. And in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: the way you beat this Panthers team is you just
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  Speaker 3: go ground and pound. Hopefully Tristan Wurfs is back, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm lower on Baker and Bryce that they'll certainly be contrarian.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm going Donald and party. If I'm going, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a single Chury or three Max.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. I think Perty is still my favorites
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  Speaker 2: just because I mean, he looks so good. I think
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  Speaker 2: the offense is very efficient. I worry about Bryce Young.
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  Speaker 2: It's Bryce Young and Purty is my two favorites. You
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  Speaker 2: ask about incentives and I look at him. It depends
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  Speaker 2: on the game. That's how I break it down. Like
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  Speaker 2: Niners Seattle they're playing for the one seed. Like the
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  Speaker 2: last thing I think the Seahawks care about is Sam
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  Speaker 2: Donald getting his getting paid. Like they need to win
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  Speaker 2: this game. They're playing for the super Bowl, so a
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  Speaker 2: game that like doesn't really matter. When Gronk was like
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  Speaker 2: like like situations like that that we'll look at on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: I do think there is merit to that for sure,
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  Speaker 2: Like sometimes they wouldn't even suit up and then they
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  Speaker 2: go out there. So I'm not looking at him in
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  Speaker 2: these two games just because I think they're gonna play
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  Speaker 2: the coaches are just gonna do what they think's best
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  Speaker 2: to win the game. Yeah, but Bigger's been awful, Like
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  Speaker 2: I don't he's my least favorite Baker Baker.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Baker's been awful.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's a little beat up, And yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think that the Seattle coaches, especially in this game,
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  Speaker 4: are gonna be like, hey he needs three touchdowns, let's
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  Speaker 4: get him. But you know, if it's if it's a
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  Speaker 4: twenty four to nothing game or something, they're on the
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  Speaker 4: three yard line.
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  Speaker 3: They But I think I think I think San Fran
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  Speaker 3: has a bad passing defense, and I think Donald's better
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  Speaker 3: than Bryce Young. I think Tampa's got a bad passing
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  Speaker 3: defense as well. But I like Donald, I like JSN.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I have Donald. And I was thinking about
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  Speaker 3: what you said about Gronk, I mean, Gronk and Brady.
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  Speaker 3: You see it after the fact that they're talking on
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  Speaker 3: the sideline, how Gronk needs whatever.
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  Speaker 2: It was a catch, yeah, five hundreds.
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  Speaker 3: But they were also up, you know, thirty five to
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  Speaker 3: nothing or whatever it was late in the game. So
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  Speaker 3: I totally agree. And Willy kind of said the thing
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  Speaker 3: that that you said in the chat as well. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't think their game plan is to go in
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  Speaker 3: there to do that, but I think there is some
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  Speaker 3: extra motivation maybe for Donald in and of itself. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he is only human. I think it's like a half
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  Speaker 3: a million million bucks that you know, he wants to
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  Speaker 3: get there, but he does want to win first and foremost.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. Just looking at the spreads
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  Speaker 2: of these two games, we have Buccaneers three point favorites
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  Speaker 2: forty three and a half total, four points higher is
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  Speaker 2: the second game forty seven and a half total, Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: one and a half point favorites. And I do think
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to dfs more ownership will go in
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  Speaker 2: that last game. And I mentioned because McCaffrey JSM will
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  Speaker 2: be so highly owned and Kittle Barner right there, the
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  Speaker 2: chalkiest players will be there. So if you're sitting in
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  Speaker 2: first place going in the last game, yeah you're probably
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  Speaker 2: not doing too well, but you do never know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't really think I have much more. Again, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna play all four quarterbacks. I think I'm going all
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  Speaker 2: the way up. Perty I ranked number one, Bryce Young
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  Speaker 2: would be two, just because I do want to jam
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  Speaker 2: a lot of McCaffrey JSN. I think we can where
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  Speaker 2: we can get different as some of these running backs
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  Speaker 2: because it is a pretty deep running back room for
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  Speaker 2: a two games slate. And then I would go Donald
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  Speaker 2: Baker's how I'd rank it. But yeah, I don't have
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  Speaker 2: a strong take. I'll last year.
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  Speaker 3: Then, I mean, if you got Donald three, I like
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  Speaker 3: like Donald the most.
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel strongly about it all. To be honest,
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  Speaker 2: if I had the most, Darnald when it was all
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  Speaker 2: said and done, because I know I'll have so much JSN.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is Gooper Cup's gonna be really pop. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I guess I take that back because you
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  Speaker 2: can play any variation of Barnard JSN cup like JSN
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  Speaker 2: would probably be the only one I skinny stack, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you can play the running back with it to
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  Speaker 2: get a little different. I don't know. I don't feel strongly,
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  Speaker 2: but I feel strongly that Baker is my least favorite. Though.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to the running back room again. I talked
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  Speaker 2: about the separation from McCaffrey. Then we got Rico number two,
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  Speaker 2: Bucky three, and then it drops off a decent bit.
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  Speaker 2: What I do like though, Like I mean, both Kenneth
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  Speaker 2: Walker and Charbonay will be relatively low owned. I do
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  Speaker 2: think Darnald will get a little bit. But if JSN
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  Speaker 2: somehow is in on the winner, you have to think
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  Speaker 2: it's probably Charbonet or Kenneth Walker. If not both getting there,
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  Speaker 2: then Yeah, the Tampa backfield's tough, Like we talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Bucky's the guy kind of like he is, but he isn't.
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  Speaker 2: He's the first second down but Seawn Talker gets goal
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  Speaker 2: line work, Rashad White gets third down work. So what
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  Speaker 2: are you doing at running backs? How much do you like?
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  Speaker 2: Three running backs? Yeah? Talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of it for me is
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  Speaker 3: gonna hange on Tristan Wurst. As weird as that sounds,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's just a difference maker in
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  Speaker 3: their run game for the Bucks. I mean the way
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  Speaker 3: you beat the Panthers as you run the ball, and
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  Speaker 3: in my opinion, their best option is Bucky Irvin. They
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  Speaker 3: played the Panthers, I think it was two weeks ago
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  Speaker 3: title or or maybe three three games. I think it
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  Speaker 3: was week sixteen actually. I mean Bucky had nineteen carries
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  Speaker 3: against his Panthers team, and so that's that's that's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of production or not a lot of production. That's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of carries. I think he had five or
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  Speaker 3: six targets as well, so they're talking to twenty five opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: I love Bucky. I saw that little they had a
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  Speaker 3: little dust up on the sideline this past weekend with
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  Speaker 3: you know, with him and works getting into it. He's
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  Speaker 3: been split in time with Rashad White, but uh uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if they can get out to a lead,
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  Speaker 3: I think I think he takes like a seventy five
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  Speaker 3: percent versus twenty five percent. So I like Bucky a lot. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: see him. See he's gonna be in play. I do
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  Speaker 3: have some respect for that, uh for that Seattle or yeah,
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  Speaker 3: for that Seattle defense. But you got to put him
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  Speaker 3: in there, and I think it was you. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 3: sure it was you. What you said on the show
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  Speaker 3: on the Sunday Show last week is like Kenneth Walker
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  Speaker 3: was so efficient against the Rams, like he's gotta he's
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  Speaker 3: gotta ace the Test to be on the winner. And
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  Speaker 3: we saw the week seventeen he wasn't like he's he's
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  Speaker 3: tough to play and charbon A had two rushing touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: If they get inside the five, they're gonna give the
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  Speaker 3: ball to Zach charbone. It's just all the way to
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  Speaker 3: all the way is to it. That Thursday night game,
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  Speaker 3: he aced the Test and he was very efficient when
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  Speaker 3: he had like three catches for like seventy five yards, Like,
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  Speaker 3: what are the odds that's gonna happen against?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: No, I I agree with almost all of your breakdown.
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  Speaker 2: The thing with McCaffrey is he's just it feels like
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  Speaker 2: almost there's no such thing as a lot, but in
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  Speaker 2: a must win game, that's how they're looking at it.
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  Speaker 2: At the ones, he's huge, like thee I mean, why
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  Speaker 2: would he not touch the ball twenty five plus times,
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  Speaker 2: and he just has so many ways to get there
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  Speaker 2: with his pass catching ability. He's just the man. So
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  Speaker 2: and like when you go to the Carolina stuff, Rico,
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  Speaker 2: Cuba and somewhat of a split like Bucky irving Rashad
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  Speaker 2: White if it's a negative game script and they get behind,
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  Speaker 2: like Rashad White could out snap Bucky. So there's variants
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  Speaker 2: in that. Then with Sean Tucker, you just know what
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  Speaker 2: you're getting in McCaffrey and then the Walker sharbon Ay.
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  Speaker 2: So I think I'm more apt to fade. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: it's tough because running back's more deep, but think I'm
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  Speaker 2: even more apt to fade JSN than I am McCaffrey.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll definitely like three running back builds. Looking at
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  Speaker 2: the rushing attempts prop which is interesting, Kenneth Walker and
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  Speaker 2: Sharbone are pretty much equal. Eleven and a half, Kenneth
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  Speaker 2: Walker ten and a half, sharbon A on the for
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  Speaker 2: McCaffrey's eighteen and a half and then Bucky fifteen and
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  Speaker 2: a half, Rico thirteen and a half. Not seeing this
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  Speaker 2: is DraftKings sports book. I'm not seeing Cuba or Rashad
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  Speaker 2: White or anything. But I mean it's interesting that the
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  Speaker 2: DraftKings price. I think it's right having Charbone Kenneth Walker
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  Speaker 2: right by each other. You could argue though, like if
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  Speaker 2: if it's definitely if it's an ownership discount on Charbone,
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  Speaker 2: I would rather like you can flip this projection. He's cheaper,
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  Speaker 2: so you can leave one hundred. He has a better
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: touchdown prop one fifteen plus one fifteen versus plus one
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  Speaker 2: fifty five, and the rushing prop is pretty much this
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  Speaker 2: or the rushing and ten prop pretty much the same.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I got no strong takes, but Scharboney over Walker,
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  Speaker 2: and I think I want to play some Rashad White
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  Speaker 2: in if he's three percent ownership, because I think a
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  Speaker 2: game script's clear, then that's a way to stack like
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  Speaker 2: the lower own game and you could just play McCaffrey
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  Speaker 2: and JSN and like that be your only piece in
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  Speaker 2: the second game.
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  Speaker 3: So are you are you so like a Rashad White build?
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: Would you be more inclined to play him like on
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  Speaker 3: a Bryce stack?
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  Speaker 2: Yep?
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  Speaker 3: Bry Yeah. Bryce gets up to lead Bryce eight passes
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  Speaker 3: or something exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Bryce tet and then you can go like Mike Evans
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  Speaker 2: because then they're probably slinging the ball or Buka like
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  Speaker 2: that's when more people will stack that sacking game Rashod
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  Speaker 2: White builds I think, yeah, I mean it has to
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  Speaker 2: be my favorite. I don't mind pairing him with Baker either,
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  Speaker 2: because that just means that they're probably slinging it in
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  Speaker 2: the second half and then you're riding like Rico and
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: then like another panther, just hoping that game goes over
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: by a good bit. So in game stacks more. I
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: like Rashad White for sure. Yeah, I mean Bucks do
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: look bad. My question paying two running backs from the
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: same team, I don't like it as much on this
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: late it's viable, but I think just because there's three
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: of the situations have some sort of splits where you
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: just like you hope one separates on almost every single
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: one and you can get low enough ownership on either
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Walker Walker, Sharbone Cuba White, where I'd rather go that
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: way and just try and hope I get the ceiling
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: one from a random like each one on each team
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: instead of Sharbon A Kenneth both getting there. Do you
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: have any thoughts on that, like about playing both of them,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: like playing both of any team. Bucky and Rashad White,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Bucky Sean.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: No, I don't love it. I don't. I don't love it.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Where my mind went with sharbon A and Walker, and
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: I definitely don't like that. I don't like Walker at all.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think you're you're just you know, you're
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: trying to thread like a super tight needle, you know,
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: doing that, and you got it.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: You got to hit it right, just playing Rashad White
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: by himself different enough, Cuba by himself different enough. Even
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: the sharbon A Walker is a little different. So I
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: don't love it.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Che but forty four hundred is kind of interesting if
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: you know, if they get behind, I think, you know,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: he's kind of pass catching back any and he can
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: run it. I don't think I think that's interesting. But
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think i'd play him with with Dowele or
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Dodel if you will.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I agree, No, I think Tub was definitely. I mean,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: if if he gets hot, which we've seen like they're
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: willing to ride the hotthand more than most, So yeah,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I think Tube was definitely a play at that price.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I could use him in the flex as well, because
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get to the value like value tight ends
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: aren't very good and value wide receivers at forty four
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: hundred stuff like you're pairing comparing him to Jalen Cocher Cooper.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Cup's definitely gonna be popular at this price. Jalen McMillan
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Cuba is priced a little higher. Leget like he's cheaper
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: than Godwin by almost one k. So Cuba is definitely
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: a solid play. Don't love him as much with rico
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: receivers sort by salary, JSN twenty three hundred mower than
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Mike Evans, who's the second highest. We got Tet, Juwan, Godwin,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: All four of the highest price are going to get
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: some ownership. But I just think when we get to Fandel,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: they did a better job with pricing. Again, JSN is
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: still too cheap, gonna be seventy seven percent owned. I
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: don't know if you want to like go put team
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: by team and talk about receivers how you want to
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: do it. But you want to do that, like go
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Calne to Tampa Seattle Frans.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: That's one that we can do that way. Yeah, Jet,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I mean not, you know, I love Tet in this matchup.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I said, you know, Jamel Dean, who's not great by
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: any stretch, but he's out this week, jet clear cut
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: number one. There, he's gonna be popular. What do we
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: have him at forty five percent? I think that's I
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: think that's fair. Did he have a goose egg last week?
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: If not, it was close to it, so they got
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: to get him the ball.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: He's the five. Yeah, Flora is this Flora is low?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I mean one point five, four point five his last
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: two of his three games. Yeah, but he also got
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: tven targets, four targets. He definitely has the upside.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely has the upside.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Coker. Coker's fine. I guess I don't.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I don't love him, right, No, you know what are
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: we showing twenty twenty ownership there?
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: For me?
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: You know it's Ted only on this team. I'm not
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: playing the get not playing Jimmy Horn. Interested on your
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: take on any of those other three guys.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I like Cocher. He played seventy two seventy two percent
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: of snaps last game, and they're protected to be trailing
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: a little bit. He's forty three hundred, Like I he's
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: gonna be on the field. They liked him all preseason
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: before he got hurt. It was like a couple like
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: the week of the first week, like right before then
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: he got hurt. He was really hyped up in the
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: best ball streets and all that dominating. So he's finally
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: playing a lot of snaps and he's cheap. It's easy
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: to leave money with him, and Bryce Young's my second
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: favorite quarterback, so just naturally I think it's a way
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: to play him, and it's not going to be two
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: owned after that. I don't love it as much. Like
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: thirty four hundred, maybe seven or eight's enough to get
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey purty, like or the darnold stuff. If something expensive
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: goes off, which what that'd be probably perty Kittle, McCaffrey,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: jsn all that thirty four hundred at seven or eight
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: could be enough. So I don't hate it. I don't
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: love it. But Cocher I think is pretty interesting. Anything
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: else there we can go to the Tampa.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, let's go.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the next one. Think Tampa.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I think Tampa's interesting.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: How do you compare McMillan to cocher right in the
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: same price range. Yeah, then Godwin Igbuka right there the
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: same as well, like in their own respective.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, McMillan's really coming on. He only played I think
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: fifty percent of the snaps last week, but for me,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: he looks like he has the most juice out there.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I feel like Mike Evans is like in that Aaron
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Jones mole, where like at any moment he could like
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: pull a hamstring, fall on his shoulder something crazy. I mean, obviously,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Evans has a ton of upside, a ton of touchdown upside.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: We saw it two weeks ago when they played the Panthers.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: They threw him a touchdown from the two yard line.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: So I like Evans more for his touchdown upside. But
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: to me, like like McMillan has a ton of big
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: play upside, like thirty yard catches and things like that.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I could certainly see something like a you know, five
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: for one hundred in a touchdown game for McMillan. So yeah,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I do like McMillan a little bit more than Cocher.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: The problem. The problem, My only concern with McMillan is,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: look at those three names above him. I mean, a
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Buk has had a really good rookie year, Godwin, you know,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: is a shell of himself, and then Evans. You know,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: they're getting older, but those guys all are in the
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: pecking order above him, So you know, neither one of
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: us love Baker title. But I mean if you if
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: if you look at just the receiving corps, I would
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: say that's probably the best four out of any out
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: of any of the teams. So anyway, I really like McMillan.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: And then number two from just more of like a possession,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: possession type of guy would be Chris Godwin at fifty
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: three hundred. I don't I don't hate that man a
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Mecca Buuk is going to be owned two percent. That
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: seems crazy to me, But I don't know what's your
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: take on the On.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: The bugs, it's been bad for Buka two and a
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: half receiving a reception prop plus one twenty eight on
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the over like Godwin's clearly emerged. McMillan coming backs hurt them.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: To be honest, though, because I don't love Baker much,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: it's looked really bad, like why guess with the receivers.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: You can take it both ways. You can say Baker
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: is going to be low owned himself and then you
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: have multiple different options to pair him with, which makes
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: it appealing on a two game slate. To solo ship,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: but you can also go the other way, where it's
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: harder to get which one it is right, and if
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: you don't get it right, it's hard to even min cash.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: And I just don't like I like Bucky. I'll play
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: him a good bit, or I'll play Rashad White. I
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: just they've looked so bad. I mean, I'm not going
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I know ball stuff, but I do think Panthers win.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I think they're the better team. And yeah, the second game,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: if I had to pick, I like san Fran a
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: little bit, but I think it's pretty close. Yeah, but
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: back to receiver, I don't like what I see from
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: the offense. I think it's tough to pick who it is,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: so I'm not gonna have much. McMillan is probably my
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: favorite because he's the cheapest. He hit a fourteen.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Last week too, and they trailed that whole game, and
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't watch most of it, but I'm one.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: You know, Buka must have just not been on the
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: field there at the end, and they just must have
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: been just Pepper and McMillan.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, snaps for Big Buk. They're pretty much the same.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: MG Buka played a little more, but not that they
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: came back like seventy five percent Godwin Evans around the
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: fifty five for McMillan, nig Buka. They do play a
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: lot of three receiver set and then Tess Johnson got
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: a couple two. So yeah, it's a it's a deep room.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I wanted to check quick the box score still wasn't
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: great for a shot White. I was just looking for
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: running back.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: If it's something like I mean, obviously this is a
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: must win game for the Bucks. Like if I'm Baker, like,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: why why not just feed Mike Evans, Like that's my guy.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I know what I'm getting, like nine targets last time
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: against the Panthers. I mean, Mike Evans may be that
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: dude that they just chuck the ball to and say,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: you know, Abuka, you're struggling. McMillan, you know, whatever your
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: time is. Next year, I'm gonna pepper Evans. The only
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: thing I don't like about that is what is the horn?
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Horn's pretty good? Their secondary is pretty good in my opinion.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: The Panthers. Yeah, I don't know that. I'll never argue
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: with Mike Evans because Baker is my least favorite. I
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: just naturally I don't think we'll get to these guys
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: as much, but yeah, nothing, definitely won't say anything bad
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: about him. It's really thin when it gets to the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Seattle stuff, which I do think playing Darnald makes a
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: little tougher. Again, you do have three options to pick from,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: but when people play Darnold, it's always going to be
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: it's almost always gonna be j s N. And then
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: after that it's gonna be Cooper Cup, Barner, maybe nothing.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I guess I'll throw it out. No, we should have
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: it's a good Cup, it's a good call me.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: We got the notification this morning that he was gonna Yeah.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: That's what That's what I thought, and then I saw this, but.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that that that changes a little bit. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: don't know why I was that's uh is it us?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: And sabers him? Yeah, they got Drake you know, yeah,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: we'll get that updated. But what PCE is Shaheed go ahead?
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she he.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Compare him to Cocher and uh McMillan.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Shaheed actually like Cooper Cup better than than Shaheed uh cheaper.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I gosh, he said that's that's there's almost.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: For Cooper Cup. That's insane. I mean, is that accurate though,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: do you think, Yeah, no, it is. It is because
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: they're gonna jam. People are gonna jam js N, McCaffrey,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: all of that. When you compare his uh, let's filter
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: out who's in his pricing range. We get projected for
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: five last born DeMarcus Robinson, Like, there's just no one
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: he's projected. The next one is is Cocher, and we'll
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: have Shaheed right there too. So Coker, McMillan, Shaheed. How
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: do you rank that? I rank it Cocher, my favorite,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: probably McMillan and then Shaheed.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like, I like McMillan. I don't know, man,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I'm bullish on the on these On the Seahawks offense,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I think I think it's another like thirty plus point
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: game for a team that's playing the uh, the the Niners,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: and I think I different. I don't think the Niners
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: can keep up with the Seahawks.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I like the Seahawks too. I mean, this is the
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: popular game. I like it. I'll definitely play Darnald stuff.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he is too.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah at fifty five percent owned, Yeah, I mean I
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: agree with it's tough to play Cooper at that, But
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: you know, I know we're not going to use the
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: lock button tern but I mean SEEMC and JSN they
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: just they just project and look so much better than
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: everybody else at the position. So it's almost like you're
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: gonna have to get you know, you don't want to
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: be sitting on the sidelines when JSN goes for forty,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: you're dead at that point.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: And that's why Cooper Cup just like with the value,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: it gets you those two pretty clearly and a tight
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: end when we get there. We do have Barnard that
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I'll get ownership, but there's really only two guys, and
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Kittle has somewhat of a priced egg.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, so JSN Ali could be Cup. I
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: do like Cup, I will say that, but at fifty
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: five percent ownership, to me, you could easily fade him there.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I mean at thirty six hundred, Like, how many points
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: do is Cup need to like be on the winner?
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Like is it one of those slates that you and
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Hoop always talk about, like you're gonna need more than
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: like eight from somebody like that? Are you gonna need
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: fifteen from everybody in this type of slate of two gamer?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think you need fifteen at thirty six.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I think it's possible that that ten is ten's enough,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: So ten is like four for fifty. I mean, yeah,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: we have Again, it's not guaranteed, like if I knew.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's projected at ten and showing fifty four percent,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: so people think he's gonna be optimal about fifty percent
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: of the time when it does reach ten. He yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. It's tough for me to
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: click Cooper cup at this at this price when they're
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: run first football team with JSN getting so much of
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: the funnel, and Barner's came on too, But I will Actually,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: what I should say is maybe this adjusts a little down.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think it can be too much. But with Shahad,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: he's gonna have some sort of projection which should bump
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Cooper's down a little bit. But maybe this is maybe
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: this number is that number is probably pretty hot. Maybe
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: it's probably forty. You know what I'm saying. I didn't
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: bacon the shaheed being a projected which will bump him
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: a little lower, and then it'll go to the cookers,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: the McMillan's and some shaheed.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: The I mean, the one positive or not the one
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: positive A positive four Cup, is that A he's dirt cheap. B.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: He's on the field every single snap. He's going to
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: play ninety percent of the snaps and he could look
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: at that.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I was just updated. Okay, thanks to thanks to thanks
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: to you, no, thanks to our man shiping nation. The wow.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so they majorly up up that. Yeah, that
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: that's I mean, okay, at thirty percent, are you playing, Cup?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I mean that seems a lot more appealing, makes Darnold's
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: stuff more appealing.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: His projection can down though, from ten to seven.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Though, because yeah, that's what I mean that that was expected.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I uh, that's of a target chair less snaps. They
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: run two tight end sets.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even though, like if you go, if
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: you look back, like he's still playing eighty ninety percent
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: of the snaps. You know, when Shaheed's fully healthy.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I dropped the touchdown last week. Yeah,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: he's playing nineties. He's playing almost all the snaps. She's
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: not playing. Cup dropped one.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean it was a tough catch in
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: the back of the end zone. I think I remember
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: seeing it.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean old Cooper Cups not not dropping that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: No, the wash King Man, if he shaved that beer,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: maybe you could see a little bit better. You got
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: to let beer fin up in his face.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: San Franz stuff man.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I think I'm out on their past catchers.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I like Ricky Man. He had a great rapport with Purty.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: It looks like he jumped Juwan Jennings in the like.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: His routes are more downfield. Obviously, it's the problem with
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: the receivers. It's Kittle, McCaffrey or ahead in the packing order.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: But when we start by salary, what I think you
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: can do with Ricky as play anyone Mike Evans in
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: below and just leave the salary. So right there, I
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: can leave twelve hundred on the table, plug in Mike Evans,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: go down to Ricky Pearcel wouldn't be shocked at one
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: bit if he outscored him. So yeah, And I think
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Juwanto just because I do like some party stuff. I
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: think at thirty one and twenty seven percent fifty six
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: fifty one, I think I just forced to play a
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: decent bit. But after that it's tougher for me to
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: get to these guys. You're out on it, you don't
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: like it as much. You're on Seattle defense, aren't you.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I like Yeah, Seattle's defense.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: We can go right to.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I don't like the pass catchers. I like Kittle and
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: CMC to catch all the passes for those guys. Hold on,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Ricky's out, Ricky Piersall's out.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm looking.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I don't see that. I say he's questionable. He's limited
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: all week.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I see question. All right, let's talk about if
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: he is out, because last week Hoop and I i'd
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: briefly mention if Willis is output not much and you
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: definitely needed Willis. So if he is out, Juwan Jennings,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: then you get even lower Yeah, then you get even
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: lower ownership on Cooper Cups even like Cooker Shaheed McMillan
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: a little bit, because Bourne would come into play. Robinson
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: would come into play for cheaper, which would only make
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey and JSN higher own because you have more value.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: No, don't play DeMarcus Robinson, who's terrible. Bourn. All right,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: assuming Ricky's out, Bourne versus Cup basically the same price Bourn.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Bourn, I think, So let me make sure I can
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: see these snaps when Ricky, Yeah, he played seventy percent
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: of snaps. Give me seventy percent of snaps of Born
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: for sure. The Marcus by the way, I don't know
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: if you can say you can't play. I mean you
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: played forty four percent of snaps forty five percent. He
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: was in that like forty five ish range when he
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: was when Ricky was out. But I do like Born.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I would like Born. I would say Born over cup
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: for me.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out on a lamb and say, DeMarcus
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Robinson has less than two catches. Well, I think less
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: than two catches. That means he's gonna have one or none.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Are people confident that Ricky's gonna be out? I mean
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: he I didn't see it questionable. Yeah, I was just
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: assuming he was gonna play.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: But he is one of the I don't know if
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: it's a real nickname or somebody in our in our
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: discord just calls him Ricky Bullets. But I love that nickname.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: That's a great Ricky Bullets.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I haven't seen him out, so we'll see.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Thirty five percent of snaps last time, thirty for DeMarcus
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: even when Ricky's in as well. I don't know. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: maybe I would take over two catches if if he's out,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: we'll see him. Maybe I'll slide in the DM. I
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: think I think he'd be a fine play at thirty
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: friendly wager.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I'm going one or no catches for DeMarcus, whether or
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: without Ricky.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Piersaw, he's gonna have one catch or less.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: What's his prop through the prop guy.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not even up on the sportsbook.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll see what happens comes Saturday.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: All right. Uh, I like Ricky if he plays, though
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: nothing else. I really got the tight end position. I
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: mean that's like what I said, Kittle, she should be
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: seven point five k on this late. Barner should be
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: five K. Then you can put these guys lower and
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: make us a side. Everyone will play Kittle or Barner.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: It's really easy to do, so two tight ends will
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: be somewhat popular. I don't hate tremble in Bryce Young stuff.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I don't love Baker stuff as much, but Otten and
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Baker stuff, I think it's fine. After that, it gets
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: pretty tough. What are you doing that, Titan?
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean Kittle's obviously a beast best on the slate.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: If you want to play play that way. I do
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: think I do think Seattle is most vulnerable over the
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: middle of the field, So I do like Kittle better
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: than the wide receivers. Barner paired up with Darnold, I
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: don't hate that. And then I mean, Kay Dotton has
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: been a huge disappointment all season long, but he's playing
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I mean mainly mainly he's an offensive lineman that wears
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: a tight and eligible number, but he's playing ninety five
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: percent of the snaps. So could you see something fluky
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: on a two games slate? I certainly don't hate Kay
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Dotton playing ninety five percent. Steps similar to kind of
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Cooper Cup. Right, you get down around the goal line.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: You know, they're looking for Mike Evans, they're looking for
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: JSN and they just happen to, you know, walk into
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: a touchdown. I could see that. See that happening for sure.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean plus four to twenty five to score,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: and I'm add it all very low owned don't hate it.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Same prop as Laget to score, Rashad White better than
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Rashad White, Tommy Trumble's plus five hundreds. Yeah, I don't
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: mind him as well, But most of my teams will
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: have at least at least one of Kittle, Barner, That's
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: why I think it's better to get different at the
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: running back receiver position, and then quarterback has already pretty
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: spread out anyway, I wouldn't I wouldn't play Jake Tongus,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: but man, he looked good last week against the Bears.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: He was I mean, he wasn't George Kittle, but.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Out there anything yeah, right when he said his opportunity.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the problem is with Kittle back.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Unity right for sure.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Defense, I think Panthers stand out to me a little bit.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: They are the cheapest, and again I don't love Baker
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: and stuff. They're gonna run the football, but I guess
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: let's go to passing attempts. I'll let you talk about
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: it first. I want to see what who they have
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: dropping back the most, and maybe that's what we'll go.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: But does anything stand out at ownership to you?
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I'm with you on the Panthers. I like
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: the Panthers. I mean everybody is, you know, right around
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: the same twenty five to fifteen. Looks like the Bucks
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: are going to be the highest highest und which that's
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: an easy fade for me. I don't like they're already
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: bad defense, But yeah, I'm with you on the Panthers,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: and then I would say the Seahawks are kind of
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: not my sneaky because there's only four teams. But I say,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks, if you're fading, you know what, what what
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: about this? I mean, I think you may have to,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: But what about like Seahawks defense, like you know, and
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: having kill and or McCaffrey on the same team.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's so random one kick return.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: If you play Seahawks defense, you already like Shaheed. Obviously
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the double dip is it's rare, but it's something you
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: can see. But now I'll definitely be playing people against
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: my defense.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: In that Rams game, a Thursday night game, right when
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Shaheed scored that touchdown you don't have in front of me,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: but you know, Shaheed got those points and the Seattle
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: defense gave up like thirty five or whatever it was
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: and probably still had a decent night someone.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Ye, yep, exactly. I mean that changed that whole game.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: She would it would have been over if you didn't
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: get that. The score was two out of hand and
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: then he fled all.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: The Donald was playing so awful.
• 36:53
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• 37:47
  Speaker 2: pretty similar at the quarterback position in terms of how
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: far of a difference Perty is to Bryce Young anything
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: stand out in ownership or the pricing?
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean to me, to me is like
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: you know, especially on fandels like I'll pay three hundred
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: to get from Young to Donald. My personal opinion, I
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: think that's too close to a gap. Would be one thing,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: and then and then on on FanDuel. Yeah, Party does
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: look nice at eighty two hundred, that's a pretty cheap,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: pretty cheap price for him, So it's pretty much a
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: two horse race for me. Fando wain DraftKings with with
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: those two Party and Donald? Would you play? Would you
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: play Bryce on FanDuel?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think there's definitely pop. Like we've
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: seen Bryce have some really good games. We have everyone
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: projected for eighteen or less. I can see Bryce Young
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: scoring twenty points, and that just being the most on
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: the slate allows you to leave money easier. I think
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: all quarterbacks are very viable. I don't see a too
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: big of a difference. If you look at implied totals
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty three, twenty five, twenty three, you could
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: easily see sharbon A and Walker getting the touchdowns here,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey here, Tucker whatever there. So yeah, I'm not I
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: don't see I don't have a strong take at the
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: quarterback position. I think I'd rather make more stands at
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: running back and receiver and try and get different that way,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and just with how I build running backs.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Let's see Bucky's eighty six hundred. Man, that's a horrible
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: price for Bucky over on FanDuel Ownership.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Reflects that though, yeah, you will get a lot bigger
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: discount if if he is getting like nineteen like McCaffrey,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Bucky builds and that again, Bryce Young, it's easier to
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: do something like that, But yeah, that stands out. Anything
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: else stand out to you besides the Buckey price.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, the same thing on DraftKings is sharbon Ay
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: and Walker the same price. Charboney's price has come way up,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: way way up. I think he was fifty eight hundred
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: last week and I haven't seen him that how all
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: week on fan duel. But I don't know, Maybe I'll
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: have to email words title when Walker, you know, Walker
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: goes him again and it throws a perfect game, it
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: gets the Niners. But it's so tough for that got
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: to score touchdowns, man, it's it's it's it's so infuriating.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, you me, the whole world have played them
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: all year long on the main slate, just gotten crushed.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Yep. Absolutely, But look at this man. Running back is tough.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it's tough, and like you'll like a
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: half point PPR sites, especially like FANDUL with how the
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: pricing has been and main slates for sure, you play
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: three running backs almost every time. Shorter slates with the
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: pricing being a lot tighter by no means I do.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I think three running backs is a lot like Bucky
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: at this price, like you might need like seventeen or
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: something Rico a big price. These two in a split
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: like Cuba fifty six Solid White fifty five, but you
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: can see their projections aren't great. And then there's variants
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: here when we compare it to like wide receiver, you
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: got some Shiheed Igbuka cups, Cheat Coke or like some
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: of these guys are in the same price range. What
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: sixty like Godwins, Jennings Ricky So I guess let me
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: ask you you would you like Kenneth Walker Sharbone or
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: would you like Godwin, Jiwan Ricky Ted a little more expensive?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Do you think you're more likely to play three running
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: backs or four receivers this week?
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Either four receivers or two tight ends?
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, two tight ends is strong too. With when people
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: do it. They will go Kittle and Barner like Barner
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: is kind of in the Rashad White and Stuff range.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: And Cuba. Yeah, Cuba is gonna be owned, but Kittle
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Barner will be very popular. There's no difference on fan
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: duel versus DraftKings. Really at the tight end position, these
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: two will garner a lot of it. Any other receiving
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: prices standout that differed from.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: DK, Yeah, I mean Cooper's a little bit more expensive
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: over here. I don't think I love him as much right,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: more touchdown dependent. We need that Manabouk at fifty seven hundred.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: We dogged him all so long. Ad Gom he like
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: he can go eighty right in in a hearty And
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: then you.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Know, when I play Buka, I think I'm a lot
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: more likely to play either Bryce Young or Baker. I
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: think obviously Baker feels like the easy one, but it
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: could already be Bryce Young getting there and then I
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: just like I want the game stack, I think more so,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Whereas if you do play Bucky like a Mike Evans,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: it could just be them like getting a touchdown or
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: doing enough, which I think will be like the JSN McCaffrey.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: More people are going to play that second game, Kittle Barner,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: like we keep saying there, I mean.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Six K interrupt six K and below, like, who's your
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: favorite receiver out of that bunch?
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Coker? Coker? Still. I like Coker. He's gonna be on
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: the field three quarters of the time. They they view
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: him pretty good. And yeah, I think Tampa's gonna it's
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: pretty obvious. I think they want Bryce Young to beat
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: him instead of Rico and Chewba on the ground just
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: run in the clock the whole time. So I think
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the Panthers are gonna have to throw. And being the
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: wide receiver too, is very beneficial, Like when there's a
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: clear wide receiver one, it can be good against certain
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: schemes and top bowls. If he's gonna he's gonna blitz.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: So I like Coker, but I like McMillan too. I
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: think I wouldn't be shocked if that first game, you
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, like forty seven and a half
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: forty three and a half, Like it's not that big
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: of a difference if you're watching all these college games
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: or playing college at THEFS, like you needed that Lake game.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: That the first two games are a lot lower scoring.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I mean that Lake game just nooked. You can easily
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: just oversack the first game. Hope the second game is
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: more boring. That is one way to get different, and
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: you can still play chalk players tight end again, pricing
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: looks pretty similar. Anything there Otherwise, Defense we can go, yeah,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: nothing there.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: M Kittle sixty five hundred is a great price for him,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: and he'll be he'll be highly owned.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, nothing nothing there.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Panthers still thirty six hundred, we're gonna be a wow.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: You're Seahawks forty seven hundred. Where there's the third most
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: or the third chiefest on DK the the highest price
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: unfandled by a good bit. And the thing about defense
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: is like you can just if they get twelve and
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: no one else gets more than six, you just need
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: them like more times than not on a short slate,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: regardless of the price. Take so overspending, Like I'm fine
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: doing that. If I don't believe this will be the
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: true ownership, I think we'll get it, get it updated.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Like I just don't see a defense being four percent
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: because I think people will see it the same way
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: at the highest sperienced position. But if so, if this
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: ownership is true, way on it'd be like twenty percent,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: give me like twenty five, give me like twenty five,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: and then it'd be something like that, like just embrace
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: all the variants. You want to take first place, even
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: fourth place in this Some of this stuff it's like showdown.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: You don't make a ton. It's possible not to. So yeah,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: that's how I look at it. If the ownership's true,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: anything on that or anything before we get on out
• 45:01
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• 45:03
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