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- 0:00Speaker 1: You're list Saints kf I AM six forty the Bill
- 0:03Speaker 1: Handle show on demand on the iHeartRadio f y fy
- 0:10Speaker 1: AM six forty handle. Here on a Monday morning, November tenth,
- 0:16Speaker 1: some big stories we're looking at.
- 0:17Speaker 2: It looks like.
- 0:20Speaker 1: The stoppage, the government shutdown is ending, and that looks
- 0:25Speaker 1: like probably at the end of the week, and.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Then this morning the Supreme Court.
- 0:29Speaker 1: And this is a long shot because you had the
- 0:32Speaker 1: Trump administration and conservative organization suing to have the same
- 0:37Speaker 1: sex marriage, which was constitutionally defined as a right by
- 0:42Speaker 1: the court overturn and the Court wouldn't.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Even hear it.
- 0:46Speaker 1: So pre Supreme Court wouldn't grant sciori, which means we
- 0:50Speaker 1: don't want to hear it. And the Appeals Court decision
- 0:54Speaker 1: stays the same, and that is that gay marriage is
- 0:56Speaker 1: a fundamental right.
- 0:57Speaker 2: So a lot going on today now.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Since we're talking about this shutdown ending and it's forty
- 1:06Speaker 1: days so far, and it probably won't actually happen for
- 1:08Speaker 1: another few days. Assuming everything goes according to Hoyle, this
- 1:13Speaker 1: thing ends up the way it looks like it will,
- 1:16Speaker 1: air traffic controllers will be back in the saddle again.
- 1:21Speaker 2: You will see them getting paid again.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Because they turned out to be the poster child of
- 1:24Speaker 1: all of this air traffic controllers. People are traveling. I
- 1:28Speaker 1: mean the main stories as you looked at food banks
- 1:32Speaker 1: that were lined up and people were by the hundreds
- 1:35Speaker 1: lining up, and let's say you watch the news before
- 1:39Speaker 1: that was the air traffic controller story. Before that were
- 1:43Speaker 1: people trying to fly and flights were delayed.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Lines were ridiculously long.
- 1:48Speaker 1: There were shutdowns of airports because there wasn't enough staffing
- 1:52Speaker 1: and by law, if they don't have a minimum number
- 1:55Speaker 1: of staffing, they have to shut down the airport. And so, okay,
- 2:00Speaker 1: air traffic controls are back. Our system is going to
- 2:03Speaker 1: be back in place, and boy, what a system. We
- 2:06Speaker 1: have antiquated equipment, computer programs that are absolutely horrific and
- 2:15Speaker 1: don't exist anymore or don't exist working well. Have you've
- 2:20Speaker 1: seen those the air traffic control systems? How you have
- 2:24Speaker 1: these guys or these women too, and they have these
- 2:28Speaker 1: little placards that they move up and down to see
- 2:30Speaker 1: where the airplanes are. It's a manual system. They're still
- 2:33Speaker 1: doing that. I mean, it's crazy. Commercials here on KFI
- 2:39Speaker 1: are sold and are put into a computer system and
- 2:43Speaker 1: it actually works it's a manual system in the air
- 2:49Speaker 1: traffic control system, and they're staffing shortages like crazy. For
- 2:54Speaker 1: some reason, people don't want to be air traffic controllers,
- 3:00Speaker 1: don't want to do it, and the pay is very good.
- 3:02Speaker 1: The problem is is that it is probably the most
- 3:06Speaker 1: stressful job that exists in the United States because if
- 3:10Speaker 1: losing one moment of focus over a shift, hundreds of
- 3:15Speaker 1: people are at risk of dying. And that kind of
- 3:20Speaker 1: stress is completely crazy. Also, let's say they were to
- 3:23Speaker 1: hire enough air traffic controllers right now, okay, to maintain
- 3:28Speaker 1: the system. You go to air traffic control school and
- 3:34Speaker 1: I don't know how long that lasts, and then someone
- 3:37Speaker 1: is put into a subordinate position under a senior controller,
- 3:43Speaker 1: and then the apprenticeship starts and it takes years to
- 3:48Speaker 1: build up proficiency where someone is considered a journeyman or
- 3:53Speaker 1: journey woman, a worker that in fact can deal on
- 3:58Speaker 1: their own successfully with the job itself. So what is
- 4:03Speaker 1: the possibility of it changing. How about privatization, put it
- 4:07Speaker 1: in private hands. Well, that argument doesn't really fly because
- 4:13Speaker 1: are you really going to have a private company that's
- 4:16Speaker 1: going to be looking at profits more importantly than safety.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Although a couple of crashes, they're going to lose that
- 4:22Speaker 1: contract very quickly. No, it's a combination somewhat like the
- 4:29Speaker 1: Like the post Office. The post Office is not a
- 4:32Speaker 1: governmental agency. It's a quasi governmental agency. It's on its own,
- 4:36Speaker 1: which is why the Post Office was not at all
- 4:38Speaker 1: affected by the stoppage, because it's not a governmental agency
- 4:44Speaker 1: onto itself. There are some of those that exist, and
- 4:49Speaker 1: the argument is would that help completely those people who
- 4:53Speaker 1: are against it? And this one I didn't even know
- 4:55Speaker 1: until I read this story. There have been attempts to
- 5:00Speaker 1: try to privatize the air traffic control system and you
- 5:05Speaker 1: know who fought it small airports and corporations that have
- 5:11Speaker 1: business jets and small pilots, small plane pilots. Because the
- 5:16Speaker 1: argument is, if you somehow privatize it, all, all the
- 5:21Speaker 1: money is going to go to the big centers. And
- 5:24Speaker 1: as they say, the small airports are the lifeline of communities.
- 5:30Speaker 2: And if you're going to take away money from.
- 5:32Speaker 1: These small airports and not have air traffic controllers at
- 5:35Speaker 1: each little airport, it's going to be unsafe and it's
- 5:40Speaker 1: going to make it difficult for us to fly around
- 5:43Speaker 1: corporate jets. I mean, it's completely crazy. I had no
- 5:47Speaker 1: idea that this group of people were that powerful, that
- 5:51Speaker 1: much lobbyist, and then they find out there's a huge
- 5:54Speaker 1: number of congress people and senators who have pilot's licenses.
- 6:02Speaker 1: I had no idea. So this it's all over the
- 6:07Speaker 1: place in terms of which way you're going to go.
- 6:09Speaker 1: How do we fix the system? Well, everybody agrees we
- 6:11Speaker 1: need better technology. Everybody agrees that we need more air
- 6:15Speaker 1: traffic controllers. Is how to get there that they don't disagree? Now,
- 6:19Speaker 1: those people that are arguing that we have to move
- 6:22Speaker 1: forward and we're in a lot of trouble point to Europe.
- 6:27Speaker 1: See I always thought Europe was at the top of
- 6:29Speaker 1: the heat.
- 6:32Speaker 2: They do more flights than we do. Now there are
- 6:35Speaker 2: as much trouble as we are.
- 6:38Speaker 1: According to this group of people, the air traffic control
- 6:41Speaker 1: system all over the world is in trouble, which you wonder,
- 6:44Speaker 1: how is that possible? I mean, these there's thousands of
- 6:48Speaker 1: people in the air, hundreds of thousands of people in
- 6:50Speaker 1: the air at any given time. Have you seen how
- 6:53Speaker 1: many close calls have been lately? Now does that mean
- 6:57Speaker 1: there are an increased number of close calls? Or are
- 7:00Speaker 1: they reporting more and more and more and I don't
- 7:05Speaker 1: know the answer to that, but it's just a question.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Every time I see one of those they came close
- 7:10Speaker 1: or on the tarmac or on the runway. You know,
- 7:13Speaker 1: the worst air tragedy in the history air of airlines
- 7:19Speaker 1: and the history of aviation. You know where that was
- 7:21Speaker 1: or where that was? Okay, here's a little fact to
- 7:24Speaker 1: a tenor reef, small island in the Atlantic where it's
- 7:29Speaker 1: a refueling stop, and two seven forty sevens. The air
- 7:33Speaker 1: traffic controller, well in this case, the ground controller put
- 7:37Speaker 1: them on a direct head on crash and they hit
- 7:42Speaker 1: each other at five hundred miles per hour and the
- 7:45Speaker 1: planes exploded to full seven forty sevens full of people.
- 7:51Speaker 1: And that was an issue where the person who was
- 7:53Speaker 1: handling it put them put them on the wrong runway. Okay, uh,
- 8:00Speaker 1: that's good news. Bottom line is, if you're gonna fly,
- 8:02Speaker 1: you're gonna die.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Okay.
- 8:04Speaker 1: If you're gonna be going away for Thanksgiving, you won't
- 8:06Speaker 1: be coming back. And if you're going away for the holidays,
- 8:09Speaker 1: you might as well say goodbye now. Okay, make you
- 8:13Speaker 1: feel better now. One of the things about the President
- 8:17Speaker 1: which a lot of people are unhappy with is his
- 8:20Speaker 1: environmental position. He has not done a whole lot to
- 8:25Speaker 1: help the environment. He's boosted coal power, canceled wind farms,
- 8:30Speaker 1: rolled back pollution limits, and so yeah, he is being
- 8:35Speaker 1: blamed for the fact that the Sierra Club, which once
- 8:38Speaker 1: was the most powerful, like since the end all be
- 8:41Speaker 1: all of environmental organizations, it has lost sixty percent of
- 8:47Speaker 1: four million members since twenty nineteen, sixty percent down, three
- 8:52Speaker 1: rounds of employee layoffs since twenty twenty two, forty million
- 8:56Speaker 1: dollars projected budget deficit this year.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Giving has disappeared in what was it?
- 9:05Speaker 1: During the first Trump defeat in twenty twenty against Joe Biden,
- 9:12Speaker 1: the Sierra Club gave millions of dollars.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Three point six million dollars.
- 9:17Speaker 1: From the Sierra Club to the Biden campaign twenty twenty
- 9:21Speaker 1: four Kamala Harris zero, not a dime. The supporters have
- 9:27Speaker 1: fallen to less than half of what it was in
- 9:29Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Expenses have outpaced donations last couple of years.
- 9:39Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you the reason for it
- 9:41Speaker 1: when we come back, because there is a great reason
- 9:45Speaker 1: and what it used to be, the Sierra Club would
- 9:48Speaker 1: be and was the poster child it had people all
- 9:52Speaker 1: over the world supporting it. It was at the forefront
- 9:56Speaker 1: of the environmental movement. Now you would think, because we
- 10:00Speaker 1: have an administration now that does not like the environment,
- 10:04Speaker 1: climate change is a hoax. As everyone knows. We know
- 10:08Speaker 1: that alternative energy, wind farms, programs that give us anything
- 10:16Speaker 1: that use anything other than fossil fuels on in the
- 10:19Speaker 1: cells wacko left wing radicals that are putting all this together.
- 10:24Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, there's a major wind farm
- 10:28Speaker 1: off of New Jersey, like one of I think it's offshore,
- 10:32Speaker 1: that's just about.
- 10:33Speaker 2: To go online. I mean they're ninety.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Five percent there at the cost of several billion dollars
- 10:39Speaker 1: and it's been shut down, done finished.
- 10:44Speaker 2: I mean it's to that extent.
- 10:46Speaker 1: And so you would think countering that, the environmental movement
- 10:51Speaker 1: would have exploded. You would think there would be people going,
- 10:55Speaker 1: oh my god, we can't stop that. Because I believe,
- 10:58Speaker 1: and I don't have the stats, maybe and can share
- 10:59Speaker 1: this that's with me, that the majority of the United States,
- 11:03Speaker 1: majority of the people in this country want alternative energy available,
- 11:07Speaker 1: especially now since it the costs are pretty close, if
- 11:12Speaker 1: not less expensive than traditional fuels. Now, this administration is
- 11:18Speaker 1: not a big fan of the environment. It believes that
- 11:21Speaker 1: climate change is a hoax, never changed its position, and
- 11:25Speaker 1: that fossil fuels are exploding in terms of the money,
- 11:29Speaker 1: the regulations, etc. And alternative fuels. Alternative energy is decreasing
- 11:34Speaker 1: and been cut off. And as I said earlier that
- 11:37Speaker 1: the majority of Americans think alternative fuels are a good idea.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Two thirds think alternative fuels should be available. So you
- 11:45Speaker 1: have an administration that's not particularly environmentally friendly.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Now.
- 11:50Speaker 1: The Sierra Club was the poster child for the environmental movement,
- 11:57Speaker 1: founded in eighteen ninety two by John Muir, who, by
- 12:03Speaker 1: the way, also ran for president during the eighteen hundreds
- 12:07Speaker 1: of mid eighteen hundreds, just want to wait?
- 12:09Speaker 2: You know that? And so it had mirror pardon did
- 12:13Speaker 2: you vote for him? I did not thank you for that.
- 12:17Speaker 1: In the meantime, the Sierra Club had unbelievable amounts of money,
- 12:22Speaker 1: had millions of supporters and members, and I all went
- 12:26Speaker 1: into the toilet. Is because of Trump? No, it's not
- 12:30Speaker 1: because of Donald Trump. You would think it'd be the
- 12:32Speaker 1: other way. Actually, you think it would get stronger because
- 12:36Speaker 1: of what is happening and what the administration's position is.
- 12:39Speaker 1: And it has gone way South. Just an interesting story
- 12:43Speaker 1: in the world of politics. I wanted to bring to
- 12:45Speaker 1: you because why did the Sierra Club fall apart? And
- 12:50Speaker 1: I mean falling apart? Sixty percent of its members disappeared
- 12:53Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen. The amount of money has decreased to
- 12:58Speaker 1: the point where expenses far out way donations. It's because
- 13:02Speaker 1: the Sierra Club is no longer just environmental. They've picked
- 13:08Speaker 1: up gay rights, they've picked up civil rights, they have
- 13:13Speaker 1: picked up any manner of progressive positions, and environmentalists don't
- 13:20Speaker 1: want to hear it. Environmentalists care about the environment, and
- 13:25Speaker 1: that's what that's the bottom line. And the scary part
- 13:28Speaker 1: as the membership is collapsing as the money has decreased,
- 13:33Speaker 1: I said earlier during Trump's first run in against Joe
- 13:40Speaker 1: Biden in twenty twenty, they had donated over almost four
- 13:45Speaker 1: million dollars. This last run against Kamala Harris. Zero money
- 13:51Speaker 1: to the Harris campaign.
- 13:53Speaker 2: Zero.
- 13:55Speaker 1: They just aren't a factor anymore. Got The history of
- 14:01Speaker 1: this thing was just extraordinary. Look what the Sierrah clip
- 14:07Speaker 1: has done. It actually was instrumental in closing all of
- 14:13Speaker 1: the countries five hundred plus carbon spewing coal fired plants
- 14:17Speaker 1: which of course are now being refunded by they are
- 14:19Speaker 1: being reinstated by the government. They got one hundred and
- 14:23Speaker 1: twenty million dollars from Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire, using lawsuits, petitions,
- 14:28Speaker 1: protests to convince regulators and utilities that coal plants are
- 14:33Speaker 1: just too dirty, and by twenty seventeen, half of those
- 14:37Speaker 1: plants were slated to close. The game plan was clear,
- 14:42Speaker 1: it was working, according to the President of Earth Justice
- 14:45Speaker 1: also took part in it. Then the president was elected,
- 14:49Speaker 1: and fundraising jumped by two million dollars after election day
- 14:54Speaker 1: and the number of volunteers searched. This was the first
- 14:58Speaker 1: this was Trump won by twenty nineteen, the club's internal
- 15:02Speaker 1: records four million people. And Trump then decides to roll
- 15:09Speaker 1: back all of these progressive victories. And so the club
- 15:12Speaker 1: leaders decided, you know what, this strategy is too small
- 15:17Speaker 1: for us.
- 15:18Speaker 2: We are going to.
- 15:19Speaker 1: Go into basically all kinds of social progressive, progressive movements.
- 15:28Speaker 2: And here's that. Listen, this is let me tell you
- 15:30Speaker 2: how crazy this is.
- 15:32Speaker 1: This is wackos having gone wackos. Okay, there's woke, and
- 15:37Speaker 1: I have a hard time when people scream woke, woke, woke, But.
- 15:42Speaker 2: This one is a winner.
- 15:45Speaker 1: It issued and this was last year in Equity Language
- 15:49Speaker 1: Guide for its employees, Equity Languish. Languish Guide be cautious
- 15:57Speaker 1: about using the words vibrant and hardworking because they reinforced
- 16:03Speaker 1: racist tropes. Okay, lame duck session was out because lame
- 16:12Speaker 1: was offensive.
- 16:15Speaker 2: The word Americans.
- 16:17Speaker 1: Should be avoided because it excluded non US citizens. You
- 16:24Speaker 1: wonder why the Sierra Club come just collapsed. So what
- 16:31Speaker 1: those people that are anti woke just use this argument.
- 16:36Speaker 1: You'll nail You'll nail it every single time. Don't use
- 16:41Speaker 1: the word Americans by the Equity Language Guide of the
- 16:44Speaker 1: Sierra Club because it excludes non US citizens. Vibrant reinforces
- 16:51Speaker 1: racist tropes. Hardworking and you got me. I mean, I
- 16:56Speaker 1: don't know if does that come from the the old
- 16:59Speaker 1: trope about African Americans being shiftless and they're not hard working.
- 17:05Speaker 1: I don't even know where that comes from. You would
- 17:08Speaker 1: think that that concept would be completely gone in this
- 17:11Speaker 1: day and age where that racist concept is just disappeared.
- 17:15Speaker 2: I think they bring it up again.
- 17:19Speaker 1: I think they saw they bring it up sort of
- 17:22Speaker 1: left handed based on their Equity Language Guide.
- 17:26Speaker 2: Completely crazy.
- 17:27Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna finish up with some good news
- 17:29Speaker 1: Orange County Fair. Have you ever been to the Orange
- 17:32Speaker 1: County Fair? Have you been to other fairs?
- 17:35Speaker 2: Many times? Listen, I do too, I love them.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Do you go to the animal husbandry part where you
- 17:41Speaker 1: see where you see pigs running, because that's always very exciting,
- 17:46Speaker 1: the pig races, not the pig races, the pigs rudding.
- 17:49Speaker 2: You can look that up. R U T T I NG.
- 17:51Speaker 2: Where these little kids go, Mommy, what are they doing? Oh?
- 17:57Speaker 2: The husbandry part?
- 18:00Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Now I want to finish up with a fun,
- 18:04Speaker 1: fun topic in this Orange County Fair. Now, you would
- 18:08Speaker 1: think since it's a municipality, right, I mean it's it's
- 18:11Speaker 1: a governmental run organization that like everybody else, you know,
- 18:16Speaker 1: they're scrambling for money. They have more money than they
- 18:19Speaker 1: know what to do with. Maybe it's because the food
- 18:23Speaker 1: is so expensive. You know the deep fried insert name
- 18:27Speaker 1: of anything here, deep fried oreos, deep fried corn obviously,
- 18:33Speaker 1: corn dogs, deep fried oatmeal, that's a big one. It's
- 18:37Speaker 1: just totally everything is deep fried. There's deep fried butter,
- 18:41Speaker 1: you know, a Cuba butter. I mean that is now
- 18:43Speaker 1: how weird is that?
- 18:45Speaker 2: Anyway? Why is the why does the fair have so
- 18:48Speaker 2: much money.
- 18:50Speaker 1: It's because people go to the fair and they now
- 18:53Speaker 1: charge a lot of money to go to the fair.
- 18:56Speaker 1: County fairs used to be almost nothing. It would cost
- 18:58Speaker 1: very little. They were a way to advertise, to market
- 19:03Speaker 1: the products that were raised animals.
- 19:07Speaker 2: They were just gonna have, you know.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Pigs and heifers and cows and whatever else, milking contests
- 19:16Speaker 1: and list I forget the pie contest.
- 19:19Speaker 2: They were sort of fun. Now they're sort of fun
- 19:22Speaker 2: and they are big, big business.
- 19:25Speaker 1: When's the last time you went to the county fair
- 19:27Speaker 1: and bought anything to eat? It's like Disneyland prices and
- 19:33Speaker 1: used to cost five bucks to park. Huh, try parking
- 19:36Speaker 1: for five dollars. Now try getting in for a couple
- 19:39Speaker 1: of dollars. Those days have gone and it's just and
- 19:43Speaker 1: the I don't know about other fairs. I don't know
- 19:45Speaker 1: how what happens with la and then fares are so important,
- 19:49Speaker 1: particularly to the Midwest where that's and county fars go
- 19:54Speaker 1: back to the seventeen hundreds.
- 19:57Speaker 2: This is where communities.
- 19:59Speaker 1: Got together, this is where you had a sense of community.
- 20:04Speaker 1: Today is just big business. I happen to like the
- 20:08Speaker 1: county fairs.
- 20:09Speaker 2: Eye tend. I used to go to the La County Fair.
- 20:11Speaker 1: It's been a couple of years, and I go into
- 20:14Speaker 1: the sales buildings, you know where they sell all this
- 20:17Speaker 1: stuff everything see marketplace, I buy everything everything. I mean
- 20:23Speaker 1: I have actually gone in there and went and bought
- 20:29Speaker 1: these eyeglass cleaners that I thought were so terrific, and
- 20:32Speaker 1: it was twenty bucks. I mean, those products are pretty pricey,
- 20:34Speaker 1: but they do so much. And I remember going in there,
- 20:37Speaker 1: and at that time it was Marjorie. I went, she
- 20:40Speaker 1: went to the bathroom and I bought these these eyeglass cleaners,
- 20:44Speaker 1: and I said, wow, look at these, these are terrific.
- 20:46Speaker 2: She said, Bill, you've had laser surgery. You don't wear eyeglasses.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and then swayed cleaner for your shoes because
- 20:56Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of neat.
- 20:58Speaker 2: Bill.
- 20:58Speaker 1: You don't have a pair of shoes made of Swede
- 21:01Speaker 1: or anything made of Swede.
- 21:02Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
- 21:03Speaker 1: Do you know how many of those sushi makers that
- 21:07Speaker 1: I have bought, you know, the ones that roll up
- 21:09Speaker 1: the bamboo that you roll up and make sushi. I've
- 21:11Speaker 1: got a dozen of those at home.
- 21:14Speaker 2: Yeah. I buy everything over there.
- 21:16Speaker 1: But I'm the biggest strap and she had to remind
- 21:18Speaker 1: you you don't have anything to put in it.
- 21:20Speaker 2: That's also correct.
- 21:22Speaker 1: But you got three and they were made out of
- 21:24Speaker 1: titanium and they were really good quality. I once bought
- 21:28Speaker 1: at the County Fair a pressure cooker three hundred and
- 21:31Speaker 1: fifty dollars. I mean, the thing is just massive and
- 21:34Speaker 1: it's beautiful. I've ever used it, never used it. So
- 21:39Speaker 1: if anybody wants one, by the way, I'd be bored
- 21:41Speaker 1: and happy to give you a three hundred dollars weight,
- 21:43Speaker 1: forty pounds pressure cooker.
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