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Snow Dogs — Rated G, Somehow? · Pile of Mates

• Daniel (Pacco): wrong movie. Sorry. Corey: you watch Snowdog's XXX Sam: the wrong snow dogs. Corey: or something? Daniel (Pacco): I thought it was called blow dogs. Corey: Ha ha ha. Sam: Hey everyone and welcome back to Pile of Mates movie podcast talking about random movies at any random time, any random day. As always, I'm joined by Daniel Pacco Paxton. Not Pacco Pacco. There's a lot of Pacco's there. How are you? Daniel (Pacco): Pacco Pacco Paxton is pretty off the record Nah, nah. It it's all good. I'm Sam: Pacco, Pacco, Pacco, yes, exactly. And let's not forget about the lovely Corey Middleton over here as well. Who has no nickname here. Yeah, well I've been I've been introducing Corey for years, so it's fine. Daniel (Pacco): You get his name right for fuck's sake, nuts. Sam: I remember back in in in the band days, and every time he'd always be on my left. I'd be like, No, left, right? Be Yeah, it's Corey Middleton on the guitar. And be So that's always it's always Corey Middleton. Never no no no middle name there, just No nickname, just Corey Middleton. And then there's Packer. Straight, that's it. No nonsense. No Daniel (Pacco): No middle name, just Middleton. Sam: middle name, no nonsense. So, let's talk snow dogs because what a good time it clearly was of that one. They're fluffy, happy, and good looking animals there. Corey, why did you pick snow dogs? Corey: the missus told me to quite frankly. No, basically, Sam: Yes. It's a stern talking too? Corey: sorta thought I was a Pacco, yeah yeah. Daniel (Pacco): no no no, I was just doing it. No, no, no, that's not a knife involved? I Sam: Yeah. Blink twice if you're being told what to do here. Corey: No, I can't Daniel (Pacco): mean Corey: I kinda thought it would it was of like a good lead in, 'cause we had like Rat Race, which was like comedy humour, and it had Cooper Goldin in it junior. he was in this one as well. Also Michael Bolton, he made an appearance in the Onion movie, so he was also special guest appearance in this. So it's sort of I thought it sort of lined up pretty well. And yeah, I just wanted something bit more family friendly, happy, light hearted and fun to watch this week. Sam: Yeah. No, I I appreciate it. I appreciate it was a good length. Wasn't too short, wasn't too long, it was just right. And it was a good fun, you know, good fun time. Could kinda turn my brain off. It was a good time. Yeah? Well, let's get into it. So when Miami dentist Ted Brooks's life is turned upside down after he learns he's not only adopted, but he's inherited a team of sled dogs He gets to learn to mush or lose the pack that he's just earned to the terrifying Thunderjack. So, the as the tagline says, get ready for mush hour. What a fun time, guys. I was very appreciative of this one. I had a good time with it. It just felt like an easy watch. I realized I think about halfway through this film, I was like, I think I've seen this years ago. Like it it it was a yeah, it look predictable, but it was a lot of good fun. I think that was my I would say my first impression there. Yeah. Any any well, not it. Corey: Feel like I was the s I feel like yeah, e everyone would have watched it as a kid growing up. Like in our generation and that. So 'cause it came out in I think two thousand and two. So we were like Sam: This was definitely like a a video store, got it on a weekly hire kind of thing. Daniel (Pacco): What do you reckon? VHS or D V D back then maybe? Or yeah. Yeah. Sam: Ooh. yeah. I think it was a D V D at this point. Like we we got D V D's early on, but yeah. I I reckon I would have watched it. I don't think I would've watched it when it first came out. It would have been in there had been sitting in the back shelf and and I just grabbed a random, you know, weekly. Did you ever have those my my video store that I got that I went to back in up in the sticks in Emerald, would have like a you know, if you get one overnight movie, you got a free weekly. And so my parents would they'd get overnights every so often, and they get like the latest movie release and I'd just get some random thing from the back of the you know, the the the shit kicker sitting at the back. And this is probably one of those ones it was that Daniel (Pacco): mate. Sam: looks fun and grab it and watch it. Yeah. Never get to pick the new release, just the free weekly. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, no, my parents wouldn't let me you know, they wouldn't afford that sort of stuff. Like, no, no, no, you get this. I remember picking Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): up snow dogs being a little kid. Although when rewatching I was like this is not the movie I remember, so I think I Sam: Ha Daniel (Pacco): was remembering cat versus dogs or something like that. did you guys grow up with that gr being a kid? No? Yeah. Sam: yeah. Yeah, I've definitely watched cats and cats it cats and dogs or cats versus dogs? It's the Daniel (Pacco): I don't know. I I think there's some Mendela effect going on but Ooh. Sam: Then there was cat do you remember cat dog, the animated thing? And there was a cat and a dog. Corey: hated that show. Daniel (Pacco): You hated it, dude. Sam: What? Corey: Like I had nightmares from that actually, so Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I know it's an abomination Corey: yeah. Daniel (Pacco): of nature, but come on. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. No no. Sam: Yeah, but it's animated, so it's fine. So let's get to the movie. So it picks up in Miami. First of all, would did you know this is Miami? Because I swear it every you know, it's Miami, they show the license plate a f close up. And then I don't know about you guys, but whenever I'm out walking in a city, do you go, hey, it's a beautiful day in Melbourne, or it's a beautiful day in Lismore? Like, no, or hey, it's a beautiful day in Miami to a random stranger. No. That's a weird thing to do, right? So Ted finds out actually I've gotta tell you guys, so My partner Teigan is scared of really only one thing randomly, right? Teeth and people brushing their teeth. It she is like terrified, unapologetically, and and has a phobia of of teeth and people brushing their teeth. And I never really noticed it in films until now because it but so many films have people brushing their teeth and that and so straight away this film opens on someone's mouth like an and with teeth everywhere and she is terrified. And I look and see her face, and I'm trying to hold again, try not to laugh because every time I feel bad for her, but also it's super funny. And of course, this film's opened in a dentist studio, and the the guy and it's like rotted teeth, and he's like, Is it bad? So feel feel bad for Teigan. Sorry. She got through it, she got through it, and she enjoyed the movie. I'll give you that one. But yeah, she wasn't a great start to say the least. Okay, so we so we're in the nice the in the the big dentist's place. also gonna say the quality of healthcare is when if my dentist was actually again, it's like all those little nitpicky things, but when is your dentist actually giving you proper professional medical advice in the waiting room as you're leaving? No. They they say they they when do they even walk you out to the waiting room? I feel like it's such a trope to be like, you know, just you know, do this and you'll come see us in a couple of days if it's still bad. Like, you know, imagine if you're in the waiting room of your your your the the doctors and he's like, anyway, just keep rubbing Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: this ointment on your nuts for the next week and if anything comes back, come back, you'll be fine, mate. Like you don't do that in the waiting room, do you? Daniel (Pacco): Well was a G-rated podcast for a G rated movie. God damn. Sam: Well W funny you should mention the G rating, right? 'Cause yeah, this is a G rated film. This film gets away with quite a lot for a G rating, Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Sam: right? There's some dirty bits, like quite a lot of you know, I mean, even just you know, there's quite a bit of tongue in some of those kisses there. And you know, d there's it's referen there's more than references to sex in this film. This is a G rated film. Like this is w that's wild what you could get away with in the in the two thousands. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, look I I I think G rated has come a long way since the early thousands, so Sam: This would not be rated G now, for sure. Daniel (Pacco): Maybe P G thirteen or something. Sam: You might get a P G, yeah, but I'd be shocked if it got a G. G like you it have to be Yeah, it's extremely Yeah, the the the standards then to now. yes, we'll Daniel (Pacco): Well, there there was a few racial jokes in that movie. Which we'll continue later on, yeah? Sam: get to those, don't you worry. So it turns out Ted's adopted. and the way he f yeah he gets the letter under summons and his mother basically is like, Well, we were gonna tell you but it was never the right time. So anyway, you're adopted. Like, okay. And he just like and then he faints in like a real weird way. It's like, like that was a like the most unrealistic fate ever. That was like, you know, if you're fading, you're like either plomping backwards or plomb forwards. He like did this like kinda like weird Christmas tree wobble of like They're all like just kind of shuffling down. I don't know. Daniel (Pacco): Don't know what Christmas trees are you buying, but I mean But no, you're right. There was a lot of over exaggerations in this Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): movie, especially coming to feelings and all that, but it is a kid's movie. I guess we'll judge that later. Sam: Yes. Yeah. Exac exactly right. So he dec he finds that he's adopted and it fro and he's his mother, Lucy Watkins, lived in this small town called Tolkitna. So he decides, Hey, I'm gonna hightail it over there, gonna get some bit of inheritance, gonna find out what's going on there and then we find and I mean, look, lots of things happens, but basically, He just heads off to Tolkienna and he is all in Alaska. any thoughts so far, guys? Daniel (Pacco): Well, I had a bit of a chuckle when wait, how far are we going into that bit? Are we going in when they go to the community hall or and they're speaking the will? Yeah, okay. Sam: Take it from there. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I just thought I had a bit of a chuckle when the guy's firing the gun in the place and the barb, I believe that's the name. I just patched that hole last week. You know Yeah, Sam: Yeah. Yeah, he rocks up to the wake. Daniel (Pacco): just my god, what's wrong with this town? But no, you get a bit of a vibe what's going on, a bit of misfits here and there, but yeah. Sam: Yeah, yeah, they get it. And how's the like the fashion, that early two thousands fashion with the the hair Are you saying you Daniel (Pacco): early thousand punk fashion, yeah man. I don't miss it. Sam: wouldn't have some pink hair going on there? Daniel (Pacco): I I'd probably get some frosted tips if anything, but maybe not the pink air. Sam: You would have a frosted tips. What about you, Corey? What would your 2000s hairstyle be? Corey: god, definitely not the not that blonde guy's hairstyle with the psh psh ps Yeah, the spikes, yeah. Yeah, it was a bit pointy for me, Sam: No, the the spikes. Corey: but Yeah, Daniel (Pacco): Bit pointy. Corey: th those two were a bit I was like, they look like trouble, but you know, they were just fun misfits. Sam: Yeah, it turns out they had no relevance to the plot whatsoever. Daniel (Pacco): You actually got that vibe. Yeah I know, you make stand out so much like that. It's like, they're just you know, off to the side. Yeah. Sam: Yeah. Completely ignore them. Daniel (Pacco): Brightly coloured. Just forget about Sam: Yeah, I I did feel like that opening scene was introducing us to a lot of characters. You're like, okay, I've got to get to know them here, like there's could be a lot going on. And then we just never really have any interaction with most of them again, do we? Yeah, no, nothing. No. Pretty Corey: Yeah, they're not really important later on at all, so Sam: much it's it's a very small cast of film. Even though the y it's a full town of people, you get to know maybe like three people in this whole film. Daniel (Pacco): Well, the dogs are the main characters, right? Sam: Well this is true. The film is called Snow Dogs, not Snow People, so we shouldn't complain. So I mean good good to bring that back, huh? 'Cause we we then meet the the inherited dogs. They have the the the seven huskies, and then we also have Nana, the border collie, who is super cute. I think Nana's the cutest dog ever. Daniel (Pacco): definitely. I love the faces she pulls in that movie. It's just like you know Sam: Yeah. The whole honestly, the the facial expressions of all the animals in this film were just top notch. For like a pr I'm assuming a low budget G rated Disney movie, they were just they were spot on. There were some really like almost realistic. I think was real you know, cons Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, even for like early thousands CGI, don't mean to cut you off there, but I mean like some of the winks and all that, you wouldn't call it out or anything. You'd be like, well a dog wouldn't do that, but I mean yeah. Sam: No, but it looked realistic. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, it went well. Like they did it well. Again, Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): early thousands, you're saying budget, I expect something pfft even that I don't wanna jump too far in, but the Let's say the beach scene when all the dogs are chatting away. Like I mean, they did that so well. Come on. Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They it's like I mean it's not it's not it's not realistic, but it it it looks yeah, it has that realistic look to it, which is just not something you expect it to be really terrible CGI. Yeah. Just better than it should be. Daniel (Pacco): Ain't complaining. Sam: Exactly. So exac exactly. Yeah, obviously a hundred percent Daniel (Pacco): was it shit? Sam: yeah. Practical practical I mean to be fair, there sounds like there was a lot of practical a lot of practical or I mean real animals used in this film, but absolutely, yeah. It's amazing how close they got. Daniel (Pacco): It wasn't a man in a suit. Sam: but funny we mentioned this, because I remember we mentioned this film last week when you told us that that we're gonna watch this film and I got confused with eight below and Did you know that a few of the huskies that were in this in this film as the main sled dogs were also huskies used in Eight Below? Corey: Wouldn't surprise me. Yeah. Sam: So there you go. The working huskies in Hollywood. Corey: Was there Sam: Yeah. Corey: a bearing I ate below? 'Cause they probably would have used the same one. Sam: I don't know, I have to I'm hard I mean of course I mean it's it's yeah you a trained bear is hard to come by these days. How do you type into Google just how to get a trained bear into my film? Can't imagine it'd be difficult. Daniel (Pacco): about the skunk was that in eight below as well and the fox by any chance? No. Sam: Yeah, how's the he just finds the car? Just when he decides to sled, he just finds that car randomly and then like Daniel (Pacco): It was a lucky part that there was in the will, no? Well, yeah, well I mean Sam: Yeah There you go. There you go. It's relevance back to the bar scene. He g he got the he got the inheritance and then and then he got and that that really you know set things on course. He inherited the the golf club there. Actually that's another thinking to the inheritance scene when she gives him the coat sorry, when he gives the when she gives the bartender the coat and says, You can have this coat, it kept me warmer than any man ever did Again, this is a G rated film. Daniel (Pacco): jeez. Sam: I just want to point that out. That is a clear, direct sexual reference. You know? How else they keep him on? Corey: But it's done in such a way Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, but it also Corey: it's done in such a way that, you know, it's not, you know, suggesting it. Like i as an innocent kid, like you would have no idea what they're referring to there. So Daniel (Pacco): But it but it kind of it kind of foreshadows that cave scene. Like it just shows that Thunder Jack is a cold, cold soul. Sam: Yeah. Thunderjack. Let's talk about Thunder Jack because yeah, we we we we sort it we're introduced to Thunder Jack in the bar scene and he just kinda pops around, he tries to buy the sleds that Ted so not sleds the dogs the dogs that pull the sled, the huskies. He's Daniel (Pacco): Dogs, yeah, yeah. Sam: like, I'll give you two hundred for them. And what do we think of Thunder Jack at first? Daniel (Pacco): You get the idea that, you know, he might be the so called bad guy in the film. Were there any bad guys in this film? I don't recall any. But nah nah, you get him you Yeah, Sam: Yeah, I think I could be an antagonist. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): you kinda like that. But I mean like you get the idea maybe the punk guys will be that, but then it kinda shifts to him, like, you know, I'm gonna rip you off two hundred from a lot of the dogs. two fifty, maybe three hundred. It's just demon I want, dammit, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's he's I spent the first twenty minutes of this film being like, where do I know Thunder Jack from? 'Cause he had that really the the voice was iconic. Like it had the gravitas of his voice. Ca did you guys pick where 'cause I I then I you know, 'cause I have to I had to pause the and was where have I seen this guy from? Looked up his IMDB. Can you tell me the one role you would probably know from him? We've heard his voice Daniel (Pacco): Look. Sam: before. Daniel (Pacco): look, I'm bad with actors. I'm just gonna take a wild guess and say they're shining, but I don't know why. Just reminded Sam: No, no. So Daniel (Pacco): me. Sam: he is in the Pixar Classic, Monsters Inc. and he plays the boss of Mon of Monsters Inc., the the the guy with the the crab guy. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): No the the crab. Yeah, holy shit. Sam: Yeah. And then as soon as I that picture I'm like, of course. And all I could keep p hearing was him saying, James P. Sullivan. You know that? Every time. That's what gets me. So then I spent the whole film thinking that. That's where my mind goes. Daniel (Pacco): How do you watch movies, man? I just sit back and decide. Sam: With great difficulty sometimes. I mean especially animated films, really it's really hard 'cause I I'm obsessed with knowing where's the what they've been from and and it's it's great at home because I can just pause it and be like, okay, that put me at ease. But yeah, at the movies it's maddening. Daniel (Pacco): Corey, how did we cope in our younger days? Do he just pause every movie that we watch with him and he just I didn't see this. I didn't know who this guy is Sam: Yeah. Yeah, it's it's bec school babies. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. you didn't pause him at school, did you? I mean Sam: I mean I don't think they would listen to me if I said, Hey, can I just pause the movie while I pull out my phone so I can look things up? Yeah, that would that would work well. So all right, back to the movie. Sorry to my my horrible detour there. Back to the movie and also, do you know the bartender's name is Barb? That's such an old lady name, right? Daniel (Pacco): I know. Sam: Right? Corey: Well, you they gotta be young at some stage in their lives until they get old. Sam: Yeah. Yeah, Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, but the only Sam: but like Daniel (Pacco): Bob I knew was like ninety years old and she was one of my primary school teachers. So I I know where Sam's coming from with this. It's such an old name. What sh shit. Old. Sam: Yeah, I was like, is that really it? I f I Corey: yeah, my grandmother's name's Bob, so yeah. Sam: felt I felt like she straight away was just all on Ted. Like she's like but for you know she shows him to his new house first, which is nice of her, and then she's like, hey, yeah, let's do you wanna go on a picnic? I was gonna take you on a picnic. And he's like, I'm trying a sled dog here. Come on, like, you know, come on, honey. But she's like straight Alice are gonna take you on this romantic date without even asking you. Like she is straight up thirsty, right? I mean, it's a smalt Corey: Mm. Well there's not a lot of people in town Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, Corey: that you know, that age. You saw those Daniel (Pacco): you see the rest of the guys. I mean Sam: Yeah. Yes. Corey: misfits like, you know. Daniel (Pacco): And her quote was what was her first line in the movie? It like sh he looks just like his mother. So maybe she had a thing for the mum. I I don't know. Like this movie's got a lot of plot holes going on. Sam: I didn't. Now that's again it's a G rated film, Pacco. I don't know if we can pull that in, but yeah, yeah. It's not it's Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, but you're bringing up all these sexual references, I mean, like what's going on? Sam: it's not a bad way to think about. Yeah, it's interesting. That's an interesting idea. I'd never never crossed my mind. Maybe, yeah, she's trying to fill the hole lost in her heart. Daniel (Pacco): Wait, we watched the same movie, right? Sam: Yeah. Heh heh heh. Yeah. Corey: Just wait till that beach scene again. Daniel (Pacco): mate. What can we just talk about that scene for two seconds? Was there Sam: Yeah, of course. Daniel (Pacco): any relevance of that scene whatsoever in the whole movie? Like I know it's a dream. The whole I I got it, it's in his dream but and but I mean okay, yeah, you get Sam: The whole beach scene or Yeah. Well I mean, yeah, it's Daniel (Pacco): Bob in a bikini, it's like woo but I mean the whole Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): scene it's like what's going on here? When she's telling him to relax, I expect Sam: Again, it's a G rated a G rated film. That was a lot of cleavage for a G rated film also. Just No, no, I wasn't either, but Really really why it was picked is bringing up Echoes. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Speaking of that scene, while I was watching that the missus walked in because she you know, walked down and came in and thought, What are you watching? Just I can explain, you know? yeah. Sam: Uh-huh. So Pacco slept on the couch again, did he? Daniel (Pacco): yeah. Sam: Yeah, that was you know, I mean, I'm sure there was some plot relevance to it. I mean nothing comes to mind yet, but I'm sure there was some plot relevance. I'm sure. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, well I can say two of the reasons, but that's it. Corey: You know, they needed some it was dream state, so they needed some warmth because he was cold, so and then he was dreaming by the fire, so you know, Miami at the beach is nice and warm, so that relates to him being warmed by the fire. And then yeah, the dogs yapping Sam: This is true. Daniel (Pacco): Okay. Yeah. Corey: and then Bob in the bikinis just warming his heart. And something else. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Well I'm just comparing Sam: There you go. Daniel (Pacco): I'm just comparing the first dream to the second dream. Remember the first dream Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): and he's like a baby with his adult head connected and he wakes up going, no, I'm an Eskimo You can't say that now. Sam: yeah. yeah. So no, but you can't say Eskimo. That's a big like I think that's quite a a slur now. So I think we'll refrain from I believe so. Yeah. Not a slur slur, Daniel (Pacco): Apparently. Sam: but I don't know. Can you say Eskimo? Daniel (Pacco): Snow people? Can we just Sam: generally speaking the word Eskimo is not okay to use in Canada or Greenland where people prefer the term I don't want to pronounce this badly, but it's spelt I N U I T, isn't it? yeah, though opinions and usage differ in Alaska. So I mean Daniel (Pacco): Well We just won't send our podcast to Canada or Greenland or anything like that. So we're technically safe Sam: Well, back to the movie. So I think we haven't really talked Daniel (Pacco): than racism. Sam: about yet, but we find out that Thunder Jack is Ted's dad. And he's more concerned that his dad is now white. Daniel (Pacco): But wasn't that one Sam: Which is, you know. Daniel (Pacco): of the col quotes he complained to his mother? Everything's Alaska and w is white, including my father. How Sam: My father. Daniel (Pacco): did that get away? How did that get away? My god. Corey: That was fantastic. Sam: Yeah, that was a good it's brilliant, brilliant writing, obviously. Daniel (Pacco): If you reverse the roles a different story. look I had a laugh. Corey: Yeah. And and I loved how like Sam: Hm. Corey: she responds back, it's like, that explains why you like that Michael Bolton music. Sam: Yeah. And the blue cheese thing? Like the he's like and you know they they just don't like blue cheese. I don't know about you guys, but I I love blue cheese. I mean and maybe it's a maybe it I don't know if it's a family thing or not, but like you gotta you gotta find the right blue cheese. You know, it's Daniel (Pacco): I'm n yeah. I'm not white, so Corey: A little bit's but but not like down in it like he was doing later in the film. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): that was mental. Sam: Yeah, I could do that honestly. Although Pacco, didn't we last time we came and visited you, we went to a cheese place and I was like, this is really good cheese and you're like, it's so great but then you had to and then you were like because your wife doesn't eat cheese, you were like eating it all by yourself and then Daniel (Pacco): Well yeah, but if you're referring to the last time we all c caught up in person, I think Sam: yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I had severe food poisoning and you're still feeding me cheese. I'm like, I'll keep eating it, mate. It's okay. Back to the movie. Back to the movie. Sam: Forgot about that. great movie. So basically, Ted gets stuck in a cave with Jack because Ted gets almost mauled by a bear. And then Jack saves him and then they're in the and he has his dream. and then Jack they wake up and Jack basically gives him the the story all the story about how he met his wife. Daniel (Pacco): I again, wrong movie. Sorry. Sam: man, Corey: Did you watch Snowdog's XXX or something? Sam: it's the wrong snow dogs. Daniel (Pacco): I thought it was called blow dogs. Corey: Ha ha ha. Sam: Ha ha Daniel (Pacco): Okay, okay, I'll be so Sam: So he trades the truth for the dogs, basically, which is a bit weird. He's just like, I'll give you the dogs anyway, and and then just tell me the truth. But he doesn't tell him the truth. And then Ted decides to head back all the way home. He's like, you know what? I've had it with Alaska. Now I'm, you know, gonna sell everything. And even though I've got a potential love interest here, you know, hey, just look me up on a bus and that's about it. I love that he doesn't even give her his number. He's like, he's not heard of a business card. Like, hey, look just look for the name on the bus. Like That's an expensive business card to continue. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, you pretty mu yeah, it's been on you. Yeah, it's like, yeah, look on the bus, my number's on there. It's like why why don't you just give it to her now, mate? Like, come on. Sam: Yeah, a a simple cr card or write it down. You got a pen and paper. Just it's the two thousands. People do that. People have pens and papers still. Corey: whole time until he came back, it like felt like he was not interested in her a at all. And I'm like, you know, Sam: No Corey: it must be all the the bikini babes back in Miami or something, but Yeah. Sam: Yeah, they must be s pretty good looking in Miami, jeez. I do also love that the when he leaves, I mean also when he arrives, but the the the what do you call it? The landing strip is is all ice. That must be terrifying to be landing on. Do you just Yeah. Whoop boop boop boop boop boop Yeah. Corey: Yeah. And then they're sliding like spinning around and that and I was just like, dear Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): He crashes into the sign. How many times did that sign get knocked? Like, come on. Sam: Every year. sorry. there's also this big race that no one like that it's kind of in the background. I love how they're like this is a tiny town that has like a hundred or two hundred people, but then every year there's you know thousands of and film crews come. Like do they literally just come like one person at a time? Like that what's that guy that that does the the the plane trips? Like yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, like how else do they all get there? Sam: Yeah. So basically The the the race, what's it called? What's the race called? I've gone mental blank. The the the Arctic The Arctic Challenge. That's it. The Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, it's like Arctic Challenge. Yeah. Sam: Arctic Challenge and yeah, suddenly there's like film crews and it's some prestigious event. It's like how did they get re like, you know, th they've clearly spent months planning for this, but it's just literally you know, it's happening next week now. Like they're just the most random thing ever happens. But anyway, Ted just goes home and then he's watching the Arctic Challenge on TV and his mum Do you reckon she deliberately broke the the photo? Like there was a bit of like a aminosity? Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Ha it look Yeah, I don't know, what do you guys reckon? It to me it seemed a bit forceful because he got up like, here we go again, you know. Sam: Yeah, just Yeah, bloody mum. She's jealous. Yeah. What a cow. Daniel (Pacco): Jealous of my white dad, you know. Well, those two had a bit of a romantic connection towards the end. Seems like everyone was a bit Yeah. Sam: It did feel like they were trying to push that, which felt a bit weird. Like is it yeah, it it is it weird to to hook up with your your adopted son's biological dad after your husband has passed and his former love has died? Like is it weird? A little. Daniel (Pacco): I don't know, maybe he lo at the end they really seemed like they were pushing a lot of characters together, like, this person's happy ending, it's this person's happy ending. Like the parents got together. Yeah, even the dogs. And it wasn't just Sam: Yeah. They push the dogs together. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): one pair, I swear there was like two pairs. Sam: before we jump to the end of the film, so he finds him in a cave and he's like got a broken leg and all that jazz, which is of course, 'cause he ran through the night anyway, crazy stuff. But he bites the fucking dog to get like I think that's weird, right? actually, I have a note for this, Daniel (Pacco): It won't pull it. Sam: right? So I thought this was weird and then I said this to Teigan and she's like, No, I've bitten our cat. I was like, What? Yeah Corey: On the ear? Daniel (Pacco): Wow. Sam: Yeah, apparently, yeah. She's like, not hard, just so you know, let her know I'm in charge. I was like And and I I think I had the same thing as like, you know, as Thunder Jack. I'm like But no stupid enough to do it. Like you fucking bit our cat. No wonder she shits on the floor now. God She fucking bit her. You bit me on the ear, I'd probably shit on the floor too. God Yeah. So yeah, I know. The things you learn about my fiancee. So he bites the dog, you know, pulls it to the thing out of her tooth because you know, a dentist is a completely like you can be a dentist for a human or you can be a dentist for a dog. It's the same thing, obviously, then there's no difference. Yep. Yeah, very very Daniel (Pacco): It seems very versatile, yeah. Sam: trans transferable skills there. And and boom, they come in last in the race. And they're and that's you know, I mean Did you find that the alarm though when they're like, someone's coming in s was quite like fucking alarming? Like it wasn't like a yay, they're coming. Yeah, but it like it was that that Daniel (Pacco): Well, it's an alarm. Sam: to me that's like a emergency fu emergency like get shelter alarm, not like yay someone's coming in. Like it was very alarming. Like I don't know, it's an alarm. Okay, I don't need to be laughed at. It's an alarm. But I mean But like, you know, wh shouldn't it be like a Daniel (Pacco): Well you say this why is he a alarm alarming? I think come on. Sam: bell or something? Like a bell that's like but it 'cause they're like signaling that people are coming through. It's like a bell, not a fucking like take cover. Yeah. Not Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. It should be more like a celebration sort of, you know. Sam: the fucking hair sirens going off, like Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, like it's like a another so storm's happening or what, but yeah, yeah, yeah. Sam: Yeah, yeah. If I was in that town and I was an out of towner kind of person there and that went off, I wouldn't be running to the finish line. I'd be fine, get some fucking shelter. Get under the table. Yes. Yes. Daniel (Pacco): Get to the bunker! Get to the bunker. Sam: Get to the dropper. Exactly. God. these people, I tell you. Anyway. Something like that. Yeah. So Daniel (Pacco): they're just a small town of one hundred who gets more than ten thousand people every year. Like, come on. Sam: so anyway, that's the end of the movie and I'm and then Ted decides that he's A gonna get married to to Barb and then she quits her job and becomes his receptionist, that's super progressive. and Nana and Demon have four pups and that's pretty much the film. Corey: Bob's pregnant and it's yeah, it's just a happy ending all rounds, as previously said. It's great. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: yes, Barb's pregnant. Yes, that's right. So she's given she's her life is Yeah, except her career is now shot. There you go. 'Cause she's a receptionist instead of a bartender. So, there we go. I mean she w she owned the bar and now suddenly she's a receptionist. Maybe, you know. Was that her real passion? We don't know. Daniel (Pacco): reception for a dentist, so does that come with some money? I I don't know what a bartender gets but Sam: But yeah, she owned the bar. She owned the bar. 'Cause they did in the will. Lucy Watkins will basically said that, to my friend and boss, Barb. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Little details here, Pacco. That the deer the devil's in the details. Daniel (Pacco): Again, w I think I watched the wrong movie, so Sam: dear. Daniel (Pacco): Good Lordie. Sam: All right, so thoughts. Daniel (Pacco): well I need to filter some words, so I'll let Corey jump in. Sam: Yeah. Core Corey thoughts. Corey: Well yeah, I loved it. Loved it as a kid. it's good watching it again. It did feel a bit too silly at certain moments. Like as an more mature adult, you're sort of like, yeah, they're just doing this for the kids. As a kid I'd probably laugh. Like when he hops off the plane when they've landed on the ice strip and the wind's blowing and his luggage gets f like ripped out and he's like gets fallen over. That was a bit silly. But yeah, besides that, it was great. humor was good, liked it. It's just a good, wholesome, happy vibey animal movie. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. And I'm pretty similar with Corey over here. Like look, movie was fun, silly, bit heartwarming at some moments of it. Not being told you're adopted, but when his biological father was saying, Look, he's proud of him and all that, that was pretty sweet. But yeah, no, exactly the same thought. That whole getting off the plane, slipping on the ice, rolling on his back, the wind, like Sam: Right, slapstick humor. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, it's lapstick, but i you can have it going for like this much, but I mean when it goes for nearly three minutes straight, you're like, Can we just get on with the movie? I know you're trying to Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): fill in some time but and like Corey said, Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): it's how do I say for the kids but but yeah, Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): for us adults it's just like, Come on, can we you know. There was plenty of other Sam: It's it's Daniel (Pacco): moments in the mil movie that was you know, you could laugh at and they didn't go as long as that, you know what I mean? But yeah. Sam: Hmm. It it's definitely like a kid's movie that adults can watch. Like I guess y you know, i there's there's enough slight adult content where it's enjoyable for the parents as well as the kids. Yeah, it's Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. But if we're gonna talk about the bits that what worked and what didn't work, I would definitely say that scene with the whole getting off the plane, it was just like yeah, we just get this over with, you know. But overall I thought it was an okay Sam: Yeah, yeah. Daniel (Pacco): movie. I didn't like it, I didn't hate it, I just thought it was like, Yeah, it's all right, you know? Yeah, yeah. Sam: Yeah. It was enjoyable enough. Daniel (Pacco): enjoyable enough. Hey look, the dogs were cute. Barbara Barb was hot, so I I'm not complaining. Like it was a good it was a good play. I I guess it works in all ages in that sense, you know, the adults get that one beach scene, the kids get the dogs. So yeah. And he got Michael Bolton featuring like through that dream as well say Yeah, Sam: Yeah, he just randomly pops up. Daniel (Pacco): and he's like, I'm white but I got soul So, you know, he says something along the lines of that. Sam: Yeah, I mean, I feel like I've I've I've given my opinion it was fun. I I probably wouldn't watch it again again. Like I guess I I I think halfway through from realizing I had seen it and remembering kinda what happened, I was like, yeah, maybe in ten, fifteen years time if I you know, if Sierra's like, Hey, let's watch this I'd would maybe watch it again. It it's sort of a you know, it would be a watch in the background and then somewhat scroll my phone and watch it. But yeah, it was it was fun. I had a couple of giggles on it and the dogs are cute. Yeah. I gave it I I mean my my rating I gave it two and a half, so I I usually wouldn't rewatch a anything under a three. But it was fun enough. Daniel (Pacco): Damn, even Onion Movie got higher than that. Sam: Yeah. Did it? I don't I can't remember when I gave the onion movie now. I gotta I gotta go back and have a what did I Daniel (Pacco): Well if we're talking ratings, I think I'm on a three, just bang on. Like again, didn't love Sam: Okay. Daniel (Pacco): it, didn't hate it, but it was cute, it was fun, so yeah. you did? Sam: I did rate it more than the onion movie. Onion movie I gave two. This is two and a half. So, you know, that half you know, cute cute cute dogs and cohesive narrative will give you more than an extra half star. Daniel (Pacco): And good looking dream scenes. Well that give it I may as well give it another half star. Sam: Well this is true. I mean this didn't ha didn't have Melissa Cherry, so I mean, you know, there's some things, you know. You gotta give the film some stuff. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: But yeah, just solid two and a half. I mean you it's a solid two and a half. Like it's not a ho it's not a bad two and a half. It's just it's two and a half. What what was your what Daniel (Pacco): Bad. Not bad for a kid's movie. Sam: were your what were your star ratings, guys? Daniel (Pacco): I'll give it a three, so didn't mind. Look like I said, I didn't mind. There was a a lot of well, I can't say raw dogging, but the dogs were in the cold. So nah, nah. Three stars. Three stars. I I I look again, I thought it was heartwarming. I thought it was a bit fun, bit cute. Just some scenes were a bit like, Can we get this over and done with? Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): But come on, there was part of the will that I thought was funny when I forgot his mum's name, the Ted's mum, I believe. Anyway, in the will for Thunder Jack. Apparently he only got the outhouse and the contents inside I was like, you sick puppy. But I love Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): it. It's like a final saying in your life and that's what you get. But I mean like if he's Sam: sorry. you're talking about sorry, Ted's biological mum is Lucy, sorry. Sorry, Lucy, Lucy. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, so yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean like and it it doesn't make s like maybe it's just their humour, but I mean like if they did love each other but only saw each other on the sides and say, Yeah, but my last thing I'm gonna give you is my air house and all the contents inside It's like, Sam: Ha. Daniel (Pacco): Did you love him, did you not? I mean like Sam: Yeah. that reminds me, I feel like sorry, I've got notes here that I forgot about. when they're talking about in the cave and he's like and he like reveals the the sorry again and he reveals that he lied to him about, you know, that that he did he was there for his birth. And wha do you know what the weird line, weird screenwriting where he goes, you are no bigger than a loaf of bread Like, what? I've never s I would never say to my daughter, you're no bigger than a loaf of bread. Like that's such a weird thing to say. Right? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, I mean, I haven't had kids yet, so I mean I might use that same from now on. Sam: Yeah, but I don't refer to him as a loaf of bread. Daniel (Pacco): What about you, Corey? What Corey: Ha ha ha. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): are you rated out of five? Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Similar to Sam. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Now another question, did your partners watch it with you or? Like did they like it, not like it, or Sam: Yeah, yeah. Daniel (Pacco): or bit? Sam: Teigan yeah, Teigan was a bit terrified of the teeth stuff at the start. but I think the cute dogs really brought it in and it's pretty much spent the whole movie being like, No, we can't get a husky, no we can't get a husky, no we can't get Corey: Ha ha. Sam: a border collie, no we can't get a husky, no we can't get a husky Okay, we'll get a Husky. Corey: So here it is. Sam: I'd leave a Yeah, when they have the cute husky puppies at the end they are very, very, very, very cute. But they would drop so much hair. they would be everywhere. I Daniel (Pacco): And shit. Corey: And huskies howl so much. They're so loud. Yeah, my friends Sam: know. I mean really? see? Corey: have them. and he just howls and yeah, the neighbors aren't yeah, too happy about it. No. Sam: Oof Yeah. Yeah. If you don't if you like your neighbors, don't not a good idea. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. gonna ask just speaking of the dogs in that movie though, why would you ever bought a collie as a a snow dog? Can we just question that? Sam: Yeah. Feels like a little but she had her little mittens on when she was walking. So, you know, little nana. I think she was an inside dog. Probably shouldn't have been out there in the cold. Daniel (Pacco): No, but she claimed her to being like an older, like a retired dog in this or something. I recall. Yeah, I thought they claimed that she was too old for this or something, you know. Sam: Nana. I I don't I don't think she was I think No, I think it was just that she wasn't very good. that you know like I don't think it was Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Hey, she led the team well. Come on. Sam: Yeah, because she's fantastic, obviously. We love Nana, the cutest little dog ever. And then she falls another demon, obviously, you know? The stud. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Bad boy. Sam: Bad boy of snow dogs. 'Cause they lead dogs together. Daniel (Pacco): Yes. Yes. Well just say that. Sam: Hmm. well I have some trivia for you guys about this movie as well. So this movie Tolketna is an is sort of it's not a real town, right? But it is based on a town very similarly spelt and similarly pronounced called Tolkitna in Alaska. which is and I look I had a bit of a deep dive. I was like, you know, I don't know if you have ever heard of the subreddit how's it living there. And I looked up and I was like, maybe people have some real fun insights. So living in Tolkitna, but no, they they're like it's a stand it's pretty, just a standard snow rural town, nothing exciting or anything. except one little fact, which Corey I think you're gonna love here, because you're little friends behind you as well. so Tolkitna, the mayor since nineteen ninety seven until two thousand and seventeen was a cat named Stubbs. He was the mayor Daniel (Pacco): Why? Sam: of the town, and since Stubbs passed away Aurora from so twenty seventeen, so nine years ago is is now the is now the mayor. Aurora is also a cat, so this town has cats for mayors. Daniel (Pacco): I mean, that's so interesting. It's like like do you Sam: For twenty. Daniel (Pacco): take your town as a joke or something? I'm I'm not I've got nothing wrong with cats, but I mean it's Sam: Pretty much Yeah. Well it's it's an unincorporated town. So I don't know exactly it it then they're so there you know, the name is there, but they don't get any like government funding or I guess they don't have like sort of council elections and sort of stuff because it's not an incorporated town, basically. They they don't get certain services. it's a whole thing about that. So they're they can basically elect whoever they want as their mayor and they decided to elect a cat. Daniel (Pacco): That's awesome. And not once, but twice. I mean, come on. Sam: Yeah. There you go. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I think it's become a cat dictatorship at this point. Yeah. Twenty years and then you know another nine so twenty nine years overall of cat ruling. So Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, that's definitely a fun fact for the week. I like that. Sam: There you go. There you go. Well sorry. Corey: that was something else I loved. sorry, just to jump in. when When Ted's mum comes, like the adopted mum, Sam: Hmm. Corey: comes over to the town and she, with the taxi driver and hands him some American money and he she's like, I'm Sam: Yeah. Corey: sorry, all I've got is American money and it's like 'cause she thinks like Alaska's in a different country. Yeah, that Sam: It's a different country? Yeah. Corey: cracked me up. Sam: And he's just like, that's fine. But also, how did that tack like how did that taxi get there? Like, from where was it coming from? Like they had to fucking fly in on a little tiny plane, but he could've just taken a taxi at the same time. Yeah. Makes no sense. Yeah. They just suddenly yeah. Exactly. Well they yeah, Daniel (Pacco): Well, where did the other three odd thousand people come from as well? So I mean they didn't dog sled it all there. Did they? I mean Sam: there was like all these like you know, T V crews and everything. Like how'd they get there? Real mystery. Daniel (Pacco): Just going back to the movie mate. That seed when they're trying to do the ice bucket onto the guy's head and ends up knocking him out Corey: Ha ha. Sam: Yeah. Yeah. that's yeah, that would break a neck for sure. like, Like Corey: And then they just ran off afterwards. They're like, Shit, let's get out of here Sam: this guy is supposed to be like, you know, the best dog slutter in the world or something. It's like surely he's won something before. That's like how's this not like happened? How has this not happened Daniel (Pacco): Mm-hmm. Sam: before? people are idiots. well, it's it's low quality early two thousands Disney film that yeah, y you frequent every so often and you go, Why did I watch this and why would I watch this again? But it was fine. Daniel (Pacco): And then you end up coming back to it somehow and you're like, again Yeah. Sam: Yes. Yeah. Look, if I had to watch this again, it's not the end of the world. It was not horrible. There w there there are worse films to rewatch in this world, that's for sure. Corey: Yeah, like ready or not. Daniel (Pacco): Yep. I was gonna throw Sam: I was about to say Yeah, Daniel (Pacco): an onion movie but I wasn't gonna be a dick. God damn it. Yeah. Sam: the Onion movie, but yeah. Well, it's I think that puts a nice little bow on on snow dogs. So I believe I believe it's my turn, is it am I not? Yeah. So I was thinking Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: I I'm kinda debating between two films actually. So I was thinking I'm gonna kinda Well, I was gonna let you like I'm gonna read out two synopsises with taking out a few key details and I'll let you guys pick which one I want because I'm a bit oman about it, right? Yeah, it's for a bit of fun. And our our listeners at home can play along as well. Okay, so this is movie A, right? So the former bleep serves as a new bleep and a mentor to Bleep, the son of his late friend and bleep. Right? That's A. Yeah, Daniel (Pacco): A lot of fucking okay. Sam: okay. Yeah, and if you can guess these movies that'd be great as well. Maybe that's a game we can play as well. Yeah, sure, sure. Corey: Can can we get some after? Before, yeah. Sam: Okay, and this is this is movie B, right? Okay. Daniel (Pacco): You think you got that? My god. Jesus Corey: I got a random guess, it's probably not right though. Sam: Okay, so movie B is a young lad notices a beautiful bleep who begins to occupy his bleeps. While struggling with bleep, personal bleeps, and life's bleeps, he starts a bleep hoping to catch bleep. Now which ones would you like? So movie A or movie B? Daniel (Pacco): the way you worded the second one though sounded like how to train your dragon for one moment, but there goes struck one. Sam: I can confirm it is not how to train your dragon. I'll also give you they're both live action. did you want movie A or movie B? Do I get a movie B? Alright, alright. Daniel (Pacco): sounds like a bit of a romance. I but I mean like are you gonna give us the genre of each roughly or I or will that sway our decision? I don't mind watching romance, but Sam: They they both have drama in them. which I I feel like once I say one or two of the genres you may be swayed towards one. But Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, look, I've got lots of after all the beeps you've been throwing at me. So that's a lot of beeps. Sam: I can I can read them again if you want. If you're if you're still a bit confused. No. Daniel (Pacco): If you rush was that a no or look I don't mind. Corey: no, you yeah. I I was just saying, yeah, read again, then I'm like, No, I've already Sam: All right. Corey: given my answer so then I'm like, up to you, Pacco Sam: All right. The former world bleep serves as a bleep and a mentor to bleep, the son of his late friend and former bleep. And then this is movie B, is a young lad notices a beautiful bleep who begins to occupy his bleeps while struggling with bleep, personal relationships and life's bleeps. He starts a bleep. Hoping to catch her bleep. Daniel (Pacco): Gee, the second one really sounds like a movie I've seen, though. Who's that Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): guy who plays Hulk? Mark Ruffalo? Does it involve him by any chance? It's it reminds me of that movie and the Ladies Sam: No, no it's not. No. Yeah? Daniel (Pacco): of Ghost. I'm trying to remember the name of it, but look, I'm I'm easy. First or second, I'm in for a surprise, that's just what this whole thing's about. Just random movies being thrown at us. You can do a coin toss and I'll be happy. Sam: Yeah. Yeah. I reckon it's more I reckon it's more likely you haven't seen the second one than the first one, but Yeah. Alright, alright. Daniel (Pacco): Reveal both options, but I mean, yeah. Sam: Alright, well I was gonna so the first one was Creed. The so Yeah, Daniel (Pacco): yeah, that was good. Yeah. Sam: the boxing the boxing film that's kind of a spin off of Rocky. I don't know if you've seen that one at all. That's a fun one. Or the second one was Sing Street. Have you guys seen that? Yeah, Sing Street. Alright. Alright, well let's go with Sing Street. Let's go with Sing Street. I reckon we'll go with that so Sing Street is a young lad notices a beautiful girl who begins to occupy his thoughts. While struggling with poverty, purpose in all relationships and life's woes, he starts a band hoping to catch her attention. Well anyway, that is the show. Thanks guys. Thanks for catching up with us here at Pile of Mates, just talking about shit, basically. And we appreciate your thoughts on this and yeah, hope you catch us next week listening to Sing Street. Catcha. Bye. Daniel (Pacco): Catch you then.