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of the week all those New Year's resolutions that you made probably are going to
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Well, if your New Year's resolution was to step away from social media,
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then don't do that, I guess till the end of the week.
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But also I do want to mention this today is not a state holiday.
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However, if you're planning to do any business with the governmental entity, you
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may want to wait till tomorrow. It's not a state or federal holiday.
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There's still a lot of closures to David Knawa County Courthouse, for example,
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is closed today, as is Charleston City Hall. The kids, teachers and
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staffs of the public schools in Kanawak County coming back tomorrow. So just so
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you know now that we got all that taking care of, let's to welcome
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in Greg Thomas. Good morning, sir, how are you doing well?
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Doing well? Thanks for having me. Have a good holiday season. We
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did, We did, didn't just kind of stayed around here when I went
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up to from the Northern Panhandle. So we went up there for a couple
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of days over New Years and just got back yesterday and I heard good,
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you know, family stuff, kids stuff, any resolutions for you. I
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know, you know last year. I last year, I like made a
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bunch of sort of I'm getting older and I need to get healthier sort of
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changes that I like, I'm good about sticking to like for a certain amount
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of time, and then I get busy at work, and then I get
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away from it, and then I you know, so and then and then
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twelve o'clock rolls around. Well somebody who says, let's go to lunch.
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Yeah, I'm pretty I'm actually pretty good about the working out stuff. The
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diet stuff is what I'm I'll do really well for a couple of weeks,
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and then, you know, I'm busy, and you know, a week
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or two, and next thing, I know, I'm way off track.
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And then I got to bring it back. And so I have like certain
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routine, like certain things that I do that make me feel better, keep
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me on track. And for the most part I do them, but not
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always just like my reunions always like or you know, at the beginning of
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the year, I'm like, I've just got to stay you know, I
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know I'm not going to be perfect about it, but can I just do
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better than I did last year? Yeah, tho's little steps a little bit
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now. I'm like you as far as being somebody, when you're as busy
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as as what I am and what you are, it's not always easy to
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you know, chop up carrots and cell and it's so much easier to say,
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I'm hungry, it's lunchtime, I have five minutes. Let's go to
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Wendy's or whatever whatever that I do. Feel so much better. I did
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it. I did like a healthy kind of cleansed thing one time, and
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I felt so oh my gosh, I felt so much better. I lost
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weight, I felt better, I have more energy. It's just the sticking
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to it. Take it to it. It's the hardest part. Yeah.
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And our and our culture. You know, you've been around here long enough,
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you know, you know, our our culture sure lends itself to eating.
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And Millie Snyder and I from the shape shop talk about that all the
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time. It's like it's like, oh, well, let's get together for
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lunch. You know, you go over to my grandparents' house and you know
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when I was a kid, and it's like, hey, here's a piece
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of cake. Let's talk about stuff that's that I want to get to it.
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You, of course affiliated Greg with the group West Virginia citizensga's lawsuit abuse.
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Your group issued a press release within the last couple of days criticizing Attorney
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General and gublinnatorial candidate Patrick Morrissey. Let's get to the overall view here before
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getting specific why the press release of what was contained in well, what our
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organization has had a long held policy sort of view, and this actually dates
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all the way back to when Daryl McGraw was the Attorney General, and our
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group actually put out a report very similar to the report we just put out
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in two thousand and seven that was sort of critical of the way Daryl McGraw
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handled hiring outside council. So essentially, the state attorney general can hire outside
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council to go sue people, sue entity, sue businesses, do whatever,
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and they hire them under these like contingency fee things, right, So it's
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like, hey, you go sue this you know person, and you make
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you know, you get your thirty percent cut or whatever it is. And
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mcgrawl was really bad about it. He literally just went and hired his campaign
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contributors. They would go out, they'd sue somebody for one hundred million bucks
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and they'd get thirty three million dollars. Right. And so we put out
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this big report all the way back in two thousand and seven, which you
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can view on our website. We used to have it up there forever,
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and then we actually took it down for some reason, but we just we
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reposted it. Given that we did another another one. And so this was
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a big issue back when when Morrissey ran for Attorney General back in twenty twelve.
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This was like one of the things was like, we're going to have
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this reform. We're not going to do this anymore. And so the legislature
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actually passed a law. It was called te Pack, was like a transparency
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and you know, private attorney contracts or something like that. And so what
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it did was it essentially, you know, brought some transparency to that process,
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made it a bidding process, and it set out like you know kind
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of a you know, if the if the lawsuit's up to twenty five million,
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you pay him x percent. If it's up to fifty million, you
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pay them y percent or whatever. And so we put that into place and
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that has really that has helped, but it hasn't stopped it, right,
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And we were working on redoing this report because McGraw or you know Morrissey actually
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you know, we kind of we saw these lawsuits coming up, but there
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was never there was never sort of a place to have them where you kind
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of could see them all in the same place and add all the numbers up.
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And so we did that. We put together report that essentially says,
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hey, here's here's all of the times that the Attorney General's Office under Patrick
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Morrissey has hired outside council. Here's the lawsuits he's been involved in. Here's
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how much the lawyers have been paid. And the numbers are really really big.
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And so we were working on this before that opioid settlement came out.
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And if you remember, we came on and talked about that, whereof the
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billion dollar opi wood settlement, you know, private attorney's got one hundred and
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forty one million dollars is what they made off of that, and which we
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just thought was an egregious, really excessive amount of money. But it's not
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been limited to just that lawsuit. There's there's been dozens of other ones.
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We put together a report and we're going to take this report to the legislature
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and say, hey, look, you know we made you know, five
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six years ago, we passed something that made this better, but it's not
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fixed all the way yet, and we need to we need to address it
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and make some additional changes. Greg Thomas from West Virginia says, this is
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good loss of abuses here going back to that release, and you threw out
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the name Darrol McGraw. Now, with all due respect to McGraw and the
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McGrath family, to compare a Republican Attorney General Patrick Morsey in some ways to
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Daryl McGraw and Republican circles, that's about the same as talking about somebody's mama.
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I mean, I mean, I mean, you do realize, again,
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with all due respect to to the McGraw family, but it's well,
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and that's sort of the point here though, right It's like, look,
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this isn't you know, and as you know, I do you know,
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I do a lot of Republican politics, and West Virginia Citizens Against Lawsuit Abuse
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is a non partisan organization. This isn't a partisan thing. This isn't a
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political thing. This is we were against abusing these types of lawsuits before and
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we still are. The problem is mcgre you know, Morrissey sort of campaigned
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on saying that he was going to sort of fix this, and it's gotten
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worse, not better, And you know there's a you know, the and
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look, we're I understand and this, you know, this is kind of
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the same thing we talked about when when the opoid settlement came out in one
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hundred and forty one million dollars that went to a lawyers. It's not that
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I don't think these guys do work, right, like we understand that they
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do work. You know, some of these guys are really really good lawyers.
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Like I'm not even saying that they don't deserve millions of dollars, but
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one hundred and forty one million dollars and then you know, we've got a
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handful of these other lawsuits out here where he's paid them another fifty three million
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dollars. I mean, so you know, there's a handful of lawyers that
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have been paid two hundred million dollars to file lawsuits on behalf of state at
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a state, in local county and municipalities in the last ten years. That's
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a lot of money, you know what I mean, that's a lot of
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money. And I mean we're not talking about this is going to five hundred
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lawyers. It's going to like ten. And so we just think it needs
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to be revisited. We think that there's things that can be done. You
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know. One of the biggest things we want to do, and actually,
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you know, to Morrisy's credit, he does one of the things we want
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to do is the the old restrictions we put on the Attorney General's office.
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We want to put those on cities and counties. And actually Morrisey does support
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that stance. So we appreciate that and we hope that that's something that we
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can work on together and get done during the session. So your issue,
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greg from what I'm gathering, your issue is not necessarily with lawsuits. It's
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more with the amount that the attorneys are being paid. Is that what you're
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saying? Yeah, And I think what people I think the thing to understand
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here right if you went down. Okay, let's say you know, you
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slip fall in a parking lot or something, right, and you sue somebody.
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The lawyers they come in, they might make thirty thirty five percent,
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But like they're doing all the work. They found you, they've got they're
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doing the work. They've got to go get all the evidence, all the
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things and file the paperwork. They're doing all the stuff on behalf of you.
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When you're doing this on behalf of the state, it's not all on
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them, right, Like, I mean, yeah, they're still doing the
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work, but you're doing it on behalf of the state. The likelihood that
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the state is going to get money out of the lawsuit is much much greater
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than some just private person or entity, And so I think we need to
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review whether it's you know, should we have the I mean, I think
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a basic question should be should we have the contingency fee arrangement at all in
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these lawsuits? Because should we do it hourly? You know, is there
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another way to do this where we're not paying lawyers one hundred and forty one
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million dollars that could have gone to people that need that need the money,
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you know, to to you know, this that was out of the opioid
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settlement. I mean, should they go to treatment programs, should they go
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to building a facility whatever? You know, It's just it's just so much
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money, and these are money. These are public funds, right, I
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mean, this is money that's coming back that's part of the public funds,
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you know. So I just think there needs to be better oversight of it.
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I think I just think we need to you know, two hundred I
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mean, if we were talking about two hundred million dollars in some other government
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agency that we were paying out to somebody, there'd be all kinds there'd be
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all kinds of audits and reviews and everything. There's nothing here other than meet
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us, you know. I mean, if we don't bring this up,
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nobody brings it up. We'll just lay this out there. You're not You're
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not a fan Greg at all of Patrick Morsey. As you've said on the
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show in the past. What specifically is there an issue? I know this
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is kind of a different event, but is there a specific is there heat?
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Is there beef between you and Look? I think it's just over look.
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I've been involved in the conservative cause in West Virginia since you know,
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I actually lived in Virginia for a little bit, work in DC after college,
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and moved back here in two thousand and two. I've just I've been
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involved in the Republican cause here, and most people just sort of, you
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know, are part of that team. They find their role, they do
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their stuff. And and look, Morrisey's just been his own person that does
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his own thing. He's not part of the team. It's just you know,
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it's it's always about him, right, It's always about him. It's
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always advancing his career, whatever he's got to do. And I think,
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look, I think that's what this that's what this rate here is about,
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too, right. I mean, I think when he wanted to get elected
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in twenty twelve, he was against all this stuff. This was terrible,
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We're going to reform it, We're going to do all this stuff. And
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then he comes out and he pays the lawyers the maximum amount allowed by law,
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which, by the way, he didn't restrict. The legislature passed a
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law to restrict how much they could get paid, right, Like, he
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didn't do that. I mean, he wants to go out and say,
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oh, you know, I cut these great deals. He didn't cut any
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deals. He paid. There is a pay scale and it says you can
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only pay them up to this much, and he paid them the maximum amount.
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Every time it's paying somebody the maximum amount you're allowed to pay them.
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A great deal for taxpayers, of course it isn't, you know, So
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I think that's just what it is. I mean, it's not. Look,
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it's nothing personal. You know. Look I could I say good.
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You know, Look, Morrissey has done a good job insuing the federal government
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and those kind of things like that. That really has been something he's done
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a pretty good job of. But this end of it, he's been worse
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than McGraw, you know. And that's just a reality. I mean,
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this isn't anything to do with him as a candidate or him as a person.
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And as the attorney general he has he has paid hundreds of millions of
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dollars out to personal injury lawyers, and that's far more than what mcgrawl ever
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did. And that's what we're pointing out. But before we go to break,
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because I know I'll get a text about this and I'll give you an
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opportunity to throw it out there again. Are you supporting greg Or on the
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payroll for any other candidates. Oh no, no, Look, I'd vote
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for anybody running for governor other than Morcy. Anybody but Morrisey's who I would
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vote for. Doesn't get more plain than that, uh nine twenty two.
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Tex says, would Greg vote for Steve Williams over Morrissey? Uh No,
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I wouldn't democrat? I mean you said because what you said was going to
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break. You said that you would support any other Republican running ETCENTA Morsey.
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But now this text are saying, would you go as far as to vote
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for Steve Williams a Democrat? Now, I wouldn't vote for a Democrat.
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I mean, i'd vote for I mean, I still have to sleep,
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you know what I mean. I gotta go to bed, like I can't
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just stay up and think about it. I don't know, you know.
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I mean, look, I didn't vote for Morrissey in that US Senate race
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in twenty eighteen. I voted for whoever the Libertarian was in the fall,
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you know what I mean. So, and usually you know, the Libertarians
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put somebody up, you know, you could have somebody for you know,
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I don't know if the Constitution folks are going to have, you know,
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get the Marshall Wilson or one of those guys on. But you know,
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I probably, I mean, i'd support Marshall Wilson of heat of Morrissey for
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sure. Texas. Never thought I would agree with Greg Thomas on anything but
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the fact that Morrissey is an out of state opportunist who wants to rule West
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Virginia as a well known fact. I'm just surprised to see a Republican agree
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with that. Well, that's the thing about just being principled, right,
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you get you know, I can come in here and you know, I
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mean most often I'm partisan because I believe that the local the West Virginia Party
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and the things we've done at the Capitol have have kind of been you know,
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I do think it's the most conservative legislature in the country and I support
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those, you know, most of the policies that they enact. But look,
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when somebody goes out and like I said during the thing, I mean,
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you know, it's not that I don't mean you know Morsey, you
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know, the West Virginia versus EPA. I mean that, you know,
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there's some big time things that have come out of that office that have been
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very helpful. I just think it's important to highlight the things that have not
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gone well and the things that we could improve upon. And now's a good
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time. I mean, look, the reason that we did this report now
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is because we want to make some changes before we have we're gonna have a
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new Attorney general. Right, so yeah, there am so you know,
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let's you know, we're gonna have a new attorney general. Can we make
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some adjustments as this new attorney general comes in and and really revisit how we
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handle this situation and just make sure that it's it's done better than what it
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has been Texas. When the state hires lawyers under contingency, the lawyers absorb
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the expense. That is the case. My point though, and that's why
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I'm saying, it's not that I don't think these guys should get paid.
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It's not that it's not that I don't think they should get paid a pretty
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healthy sum. It's just is that arrangement the best case is that arrangement the
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best use of funds for the taxpayers? Right? I mean, you know,
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could we go out and have could we go out and hire somebody hourly
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that could also bring in, you know, handle this stuff that we don't
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have to do on a contingency fee thing. You know, we we have
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a little bit of that pay scale in there, but it only went up
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to a certain dollar figure, and all of a sudden we ended up in
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a billion dollar settlement. So the numbers just got That's what made those numbers
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get really really big was that the the billion dollars was so big. So
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you know, look, I just think if you if you went out and
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you actually made these guys that were involved in this lawsuit, say keeping keep
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a log of how much time they hourly. They're getting paid a huge sum
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out, you know what I mean, Like that number hourly would be enormous,
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right, And the other point of that is just the risk is so
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far less when you're suing somebody on behalf of the state. If you're just
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suing somebody's just a private class action, and I just think that has to
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be taken into account, is our point. All Right, So the polls
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has shown that Patrick Morrissey's well in the lead in the race for governor,
22:22
although it's still early. Keep in mind the filing period isn't officially even here
22:25
yet. You think the others can make up ground. Yeah, Look,
22:27
I think anybody could win that race. I don't think there's Morsey obviously is
22:33
in the lead right now. Morrisey's run statewide multiple times. I'm going to
22:38
be said for that. You know, his name id's a significantly higher than
22:42
everybody else, and that's really part of the I mean, that's why I
22:45
think the others can win. I mean, for Morrisey to have a ninety
22:48
percent name ID but only be it like twenty five twenty eight percent of the
22:52
vote. That means there's a whole bunch of people that know him that aren't
22:56
choosing to vote for him, and they're saying, hey, I'm either going
22:59
to pick somebody else or I'm reserving my right to pick somebody else in the
23:03
future. Right. Look, you know, I think you know Mac.
23:08
Mac doesn't have the financial resources and his campaigns are not gonna have the financial
23:14
resources of the others. But Mac does a pretty good job of getting hisself
23:17
out there. Right, He's got his he's got his veteran base, especially
23:19
in the last month or so following the debate and more. Yeah, you
23:22
know, he does a good job of things like that. People understand he's
23:26
a conservative obviously, More Capito and you know, the whole family stuff,
23:30
and More's a young, energetic guy. He's been he's been working hard,
23:34
he's been doing a good job on the campaign trail. He's certainly in the
23:37
mix. And then you've got Chris Miller, who's sort of this outsider candidate
23:42
that is still behind in the polls, but he has the most money and
23:48
he has the ability to put more money in. He's not even started spending
23:51
it, he's never started spending it yet, which you know, people know
23:53
I'm in people know I'm buddies with Chris, and like, you know,
23:57
if I were managing that, I would have spent some money in the fall.
24:02
H there. You know, their strategy has been different. But you
24:07
know, I think there's a point when it'll be too late for Chris,
24:11
you know what I mean. I don't know when that is, you know,
24:14
I don't I don't think he's I don't think he's passed the too late
24:15
point. I just don't know when that is. I you know, March
24:18
first would definitely be that. Yeah, February first may be too late,
24:22
you know what I mean. So I think it's a matter of, you
24:25
know, when does he get going? And then I think I think you're
24:27
going to see pretty early with Chris though. I mean, I think once
24:30
he does start spending the money, you're either going to see that, you
24:33
know, people were either going to like that outsidery candidate, business guy,
24:38
young energetic person, uh, or it's not gonna catch right, And so
24:42
I think you'll know, you know, I don't think this is going to
24:45
be one of those things where you know, it's like May first and we're
24:47
going, Oh my gosh, who's going you know, is Chris can Chris
24:49
win? I think you're gonna know March first, whether Chris can win or
24:52
not, because it's either gone his this advertising will either have started and caught
24:56
on or it hasn't. Uh so and and look, and the reality is,
25:00
if you know, if Chris's media doesn't catch on, and if you
25:03
know, Moore can't find a way to do that, or Mitt can't find
25:07
enough earned media to sort of stay in the mix on this, if the
25:10
other guys can't get there, you know, Morrissey has a ceiling, but
25:15
his ceiling is high enough to win, you know what I mean, So
25:18
like he has enough building name ID to where even if he doesn't get that
25:22
many more votes, if the other guys come up short, you know,
25:25
Morrissey can certainly, you know, certainly isn't a position to win. There
25:29
for the record, just so I could be a transparent as possible going back
25:30
to morris City, we'll move on to something else. I don't want to
25:33
find myself in the crosshairs so citizens and gets lost suit of you. So
25:36
I want to make sure I'm transparent as well. Had about a thirty minute
25:38
conversation with ag Morrissey. Last week. He called me in the early afternoon
25:42
hour, which it's after we had the little impromptu reporters round table, if
25:47
you will, with our Brad mclhenny and Steven Allen Adams of Ogden Newspapers.
25:49
Now, he took issue with some of the things that were said on the
25:52
show, and that certainly is just right. We had a very civil,
25:56
gentlemanlike conversation, conversation for about thirty minutes, talking about his issues with the
26:02
press and his decision not to appear at the debate of Morgantown with Hoppy last
26:04
month, and we talked about the other you know, the other candidates as
26:11
well, and we talked about the initial polls for governor that seemed to be
26:15
his big bone of contention. Mistakes were made in the polling which had been
26:18
well documented. And I did invite him on the show as early as I
26:22
think. The last conversation or last text I sent him was on Friday.
26:26
I told him check his calendar, get back with me what you said.
26:29
He would, and he's got an open slot on the show as a candidate
26:33
for governor anytime that he wants, so I don't want people to think we're
26:37
just ganging up on Patrick Morrison here. He's more than welcome to come on
26:40
the show, as is any candidate for any office. He's chosen not to
26:42
do that so far, But I just wanted to wanted to kind of get
26:45
that out there now before a couple of things before we let you go,
26:49
Greg, I want to get your take on this. All these you know,
26:55
political rumors going around, and what happens is a lot of times sometimes
26:59
people will start their own rumors within and you know this, within a campaign,
27:03
we'll start rumors about the other campaign just to kind of get people talking.
27:06
I'm sure you've heard him as I have. And it has to do
27:08
with Congressman Alex Mooney that he may drop out of the race for US Senate.
27:11
What are you hearing there? He's absolutely not doing that. I mean,
27:15
I think that's obviously something that's you know, sort of put on by
27:19
the other side to say, but no, Mooney, that's that's kind of
27:22
what I was getting out. Moody's one hundred percent gonna run. I mean,
27:25
look, do I think he's got a great chance right now? Certainly
27:29
not, you know, which isn't something I you know, as I've said
27:33
on this show on other shows, I mean even back in the spring,
27:36
I thought Mooney should have had a chance. I think he didn't have a
27:37
very good summer. He didn't make up the ground he needed to, he
27:41
didn't raise the money he needed to. And now I just think he's in
27:44
a really tough spot. But no, I think he's going to finish through
27:47
with this, and you know he's gonna run. And if he does,
27:51
I mean, look, not everybody has to be in office forever, right,
27:56
Like all these people, it's like, what's gonna you know, there's
27:57
a lot of people that sort of make this up or out move, right,
28:02
It's like, hey, I've been and honestly, you see it a
28:04
lot for people that have been doing it about ten years, which guess what,
28:07
He's been doing it about ten years, right, So you see this
28:11
a lot at that ten year mark where it's like I'm either going to make
28:15
a move and I'm gonna get this promotion, I'm gonna do this new job,
28:18
or I'm just gonna go do something else, you know, And I
28:21
certainly think that's where Moony's at. I just I think he's in a position,
28:25
you know, he lives out there in that Eastern Panhandle that's close enough
28:29
to you know, he could work for some conservative he could go work for
28:33
Club for Growth, right, like they're spending all his money. I mean,
28:36
he could go work for a conservative group like that or some other conservative
28:40
group in DC and drive down from the Eastern Panhandle. So I think there's
28:44
just a lot of I think there'll be a lot of options available to him,
28:48
and I'm sure that's what he's looking at. Right. It's like,
28:49
well, I've been in Congress, I've done this stuff, you know.
28:52
I'm sure he had sort of a checklist of things that he wanted to get
28:56
done. He's probably done with it, and now it's like, where do
28:59
I go from here? And so no, he's one hundred percent gonna run.
29:03
I mean I've talked to him personally. I've talked to is you know
29:06
now former campaign manager and others, and you know, I just think it's
29:11
you know, he's definitely gonna run for Senate and we're gonna have that election
29:15
and it's look, it's going to get more competitive than it is now.
29:19
I don't know how much more competitive, but uh, but you know that
29:23
that race will get a little bit closer, and you know is more and
29:26
more people pay attention to it. But but no, he's gonna run.
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29:42
let's talk about Alex Mooney's opponent, and that's Governor Jim Justice. Brad's got
29:48
to I'm gonna get in this a little later on if I can. But
29:49
Brad's got a story posted on the website. There's a hearing tomorrow in Court
29:53
and Virginia on the infamous helicopter copteror gate if you will. Uh, all
30:00
these things keep coming up, almost like with Trump. All these things just
30:03
keep coming up and keep coming up, and the people, you know,
30:07
again, it's a lot can happen between now May, but the people just
30:10
don't seem to care. Governor Justice just keeps rolling along. Man. I
30:14
think it is. I think it's just so complicated. I mean, I'm
30:18
some you know obviously, like I'm involved in this in these sort of you
30:22
know, I work in politics for a living. I'm you know, work
30:25
with the Governor's office on with clients of mine and do different stuff. I
30:27
mean, I know all these people personally, not that I don't know the
30:30
governor very well personally, but I mean a lot of people around them I
30:33
know personally. If I don't really understand, like I couldn't sit here and
30:38
describe all of this stuff in detail and like make a map for you and
30:41
show you what it all means. I just don't have any idea how somebody
30:45
that like has a real life and does real stuff I'll be able to follow
30:48
this. I mean, it's really difficult and it's complicated, and I think
30:53
the other the flip side, I mean the other aspect of it too is
30:57
you know, here's the problem. And look, I'm somebody that would have
31:02
probably really supported a more conservative candidate like Mooney before, right, I think
31:07
the problem that that campaign had was, you know, Governor Justice started out
31:11
as a Democrat. Even when he switched parties, he still really wasn't with
31:17
us on policy stuff. And then there was a point where all of a
31:21
sudden he really started working with the Republican legislature and getting things done. And
31:27
so if you look at the governor's record over the last five years, it
31:33
has been very conservative, and I think that's the tie. You know,
31:36
So look is he is he you know, a pure conservative, And you
31:41
know, you want to go back and look at something he said six years
31:44
ago and say, see, I told you, Okay, that's certainly a
31:48
point, and you can do that and you can feel better about it.
31:52
But for the average person that doesn't play gotcha politics and just looks at it
31:56
and says, hey, what have you done in the last past year or
32:00
two that has impacted my life? And the reality is the governor has been
32:05
working with the Republican legislature on passing the most conservative agenda policy agenda in the
32:09
country, and and so I think that's what people look at now. You
32:15
know, look, I'm not saying that I have no idea about this financial
32:19
situation. And you know, it would have to be something really drastic that
32:22
people saw, right. I mean, it would have to be you know,
32:27
get off an orphanage or something bankruptcy, but it would honestly, I
32:30
think it have to be it has to be something with the Greenbrier, right,
32:34
because that's something people see, you know what I mean. The coal
32:36
mines are out of mind. The coal mines are out of sight. The
32:38
farms that he has everywhere, and all this other property, it's all somewhere
32:42
else. The Greenbrier is the most visible thing he has. To me,
32:46
that's got to be the thing that, like, if something happened with the
32:51
Greenbrier, that might be something that the actual public could could get their at
32:57
least they can understand it. That's the thing that's visible. This other stuff
33:00
is this bank and that bank, and this loan, and it's one hundred
33:04
million, and it's ten million, and it's a built who knows, you
33:07
know, they're all just numbers. But the Greenbrier is the tangible thing that
33:10
I think people can understand. But look, at the end of the day,
33:15
his approvals really high. You know, he's been working with the Republican
33:20
legislature, you know, and I just think he's, you know, in
33:24
a pretty good position to be the next US Senator. Tex says some Democrat
33:29
in Greg's childhood must have not bought him ice cream, and Gregg's to holds
33:31
a grudge. Greg, how could you waste your vote on a libertarian or
33:37
Morrissey as much as you trashed him. I think that's kind of in reference
33:39
to they said, would you support Steve Williams over morris I mean, so
33:44
you're Republican no matter what, or a libertarian. I mean, I don't
33:49
know. I mean, I guess if there was like a super awesome Democrat
33:52
for some office that I like, I mean, I just I can't think
33:53
of any of the top Steve Williams is not the worst possible, not Steven
33:58
Smith. Okay, no, no, no, no no, And I
34:00
just Democrats is not going to win those now. I agree that the Democrats
34:05
not going to win, So it doesn't really matter, you know, if
34:07
you're going to just I mean to me, even for the Democrat be throwing
34:08
your voteway to ask you this, you got to go. Senator Mansion is
34:12
beginning his nationwide tour searching for the middle or the truth or whatever thoughts there
34:17
on his world tour, Look, Hewide Tour. He really wants to run
34:22
for president, but his only way he can run for president is if he
34:24
gets that nomination from the No Labels Party, because they have been doing all
34:29
the leg work on getting making sure they're on ballots all over the country.
34:31
So he's either going to get the nomination, the nomination from No Labels and
34:37
be their standard bearer for president on the ballot and all these states that they've
34:42
gotten on or he isn't. And if he doesn't get that, there's no
34:45
pathway because it is I mean, it is really difficult to get on the
34:49
ballot and all these things, I mean No Labels. Then No Labels organization
34:52
has been working on it for years, you know. So he's either going
34:55
to be able to benefit from all the work they've done on getting on these
34:58
ballots or not. And if he doesn't, he doesn't, you know,
35:00
if he gets the No Labels he runs for president. If he doesn't,
35:05
he doesn't run for president. Thirty seconds. Session starts next week. Anything
35:07
in particular, you'll be keeping your eyes on. Uh. Look, I
35:10
think that we're sort of at this place right where you're about to have a
35:14
new governor, You're about to have all these new you know, many low
35:16
legislators. I think you're going to see a lot of people that just have
35:21
their sort of their wish list over the last four or five years that things
35:24
that they haven't gotten done that they're going to get done because you're you're going
35:29
to have a new governor. You're going to have a ton of new priorities
35:30
next time around. So I think you're just going to see a lot of
35:34
people sort of you know, whatever meat was left on the bone, they're
35:37
going to be taken care of here in the next next sixty days. Greg
35:39
Thomas, give us the website for West Virginia Citizens Against Last City use West
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Virginia Citizens Against Lawsuit Abuse dot org. Okay, and go check it out.
35:49
Greg, It's always pleasure to have you in the show man. Thanks
35:51
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39:29
With the new year comes new laws taking effect. One of those has to
39:35
do with your cars inspection sticker. It's now every two years. And again,
39:39
man, I have forgotten by that that was passed by the legislature last
39:42
year, but now that goes into effect, assigned into law by the governor.
39:45
So starting today, your car's inspection sticker is now every two years as
39:53
fun, and I mentioned earlier at the top of the program that as far
39:58
as the state governmental offices go, it is not a state holiday today.
40:01
However, some governmental entities are closed. In Canawa County. The courthouse is
40:07
closed today and also the city Hall is closed today, so they are not
40:15
here, they're not there. They're not here, they're not there, they're
40:17
not anywhere. They're closed day. Kanagh County schools also were closed to day.
40:21
They head back tomorrow. There was school however, in Putnam County.
40:23
I know this because what used to during the holiday break take me five minutes
40:28
or so getting from my house to the interstate was back up to about fifteen
40:34
minutes this morning. Because you know, parents and grandparents do not let their
40:37
kids, heaven forbid, get on a school bus. But that's another story
40:40
for another another day. I want to welcome aboard a new sponsor to this
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41:01
There's a rumor that Mac Warner's ideas come to him after he eats paint chips.
41:06
I got a texture that is fascinated for some reason, I was saying
41:09
that Mac Warner eats paint chips. I worked for Mac Warner for four years.
41:14
I can tell you I saw you meet a lot of things. Okay,
41:15
he's a military guy, you know, so overseas. I'm sure you
41:20
ate a lot of weird paint chips, not one of them. Just throwing
41:23
that out there, Texas. Greg Thomas is the Joe Flacco of mediocre Republicans.
41:30
Hey, let me just say this. You know I'm an NFL fan.
41:32
All due respect to mister Flacco. I don't know how that can necessarily
41:37
compaar us to Greg Thomas, but I will say Brown's are just killing it
41:40
right now. It's a great story. So from my good friends Amanda Baron
41:44
and Sean Meyer and Jim Workman and my brother in law Ron, congratulations because
41:49
the Browns have had a pretty good season. Now. Where it's going to
41:51
go from here, I don't know. I guess we'll wait and see.
41:54
Jeff and Kerry have been talking about this throughout the morning. Hurricane City Council
42:00
we will meet tonight and they will be allowing public comment on a proposed water
42:04
rate hike. This is going on in a lot of areas right now,
42:07
and it's a pretty significant raise. So if you're a customer of the water
42:12
and sewer systems there, you have an opportunity to weigh in tonight. The
42:15
meeting is at six point thirty at Hurricane City Hall. I mentioned this when
42:21
I was talking to Greg earlier. The Governor's helicopter. Brad is a story
42:23
post at wv metronews dot com. There is a motion tomorrow at two o'clock
42:29
in the Western District Court of Virginia about this. Brad again has a whole
42:34
story laid out on the website. US Marshalls were ordered to seize the chopper
42:37
earlier of Bluestone Resources. Now this is a company owned by the Justice family
42:42
businesses and they talking about the Justice side of things, are objected to the
42:46
seizure of the helicopter. It's a long story, as Greg kind of pointed
42:51
out, and it's a complicated story. Read all about it online. Brad
42:53
will be covered and hear it's tomorrow. And as a side note, I'll
42:59
say this, be ready for your television, your radio, your social media
43:04
to be littered with a lot of political ads now that the new year is
43:07
here. We in the business, of course love that, but it's going
43:13
to get kind of ugly, particularly I think in this Senate race between Governor
43:16
Justice and Congressman Alex Mooney, a whole lot of negative ads are coming.
43:22
And Greg and I talked about this a little bit earlier this morning. I
43:24
think Chris Miller is about to unleash a whole lot of money trying to buy
43:29
himself some more name recognition as he tries to get elected governor. It's been
43:32
said about Miller that I said, Charleston in the Huntington areas, there's not
43:36
a lot of name recognition if you go let's say Morgantown, Wheeling, whatever.
43:38
But you got that kind of money, it'll buy a lot of name
43:42
recognition. And I think you're about to see Chris Miller unleash the chage.
43:46
Jeff, Jeff Jenkins, that's the guy's last name. It joins us in
43:50
the news room, Jeff, good morning. I know you guys are really
43:52
really busy this morning. Not the way the City of Charleston wanted to start
43:57
things out. Shooting reported yesterday. It was a shooting, you know,
44:00
no shooting as minor, but this wasn't life threatening injuries. It was about
44:07
six thirty over Adam fortunately a notorious intersection seventh seventh Street, Park Avenue,
44:15
and a guy was shot in the leg and they were on the scene.
44:20
I've heard some emergency dispatcher traffic. Charleston Fire Department medics were there really quickly.
44:27
Charleston Police were there really quickly. They had already you know, found
44:30
the suspect, found the gun, and so we don't have any names yet,
44:37
but we know that that the wound was in the leg and they were
44:39
on the scene pretty quickly. So we're hoping and we're expecting to get some
44:44
names out later today from the police. Well else we keep an eye on
44:46
today. Jee. Well, you know, this is your beginning of the
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year here, and so we've got things that are happening in state government.
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Session starts next week. Session starts a week from tomorrow, right. You
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know, the much talked about DHHR is now officially in three agencies, right
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because remember it was a split, so that official they've been working on it,
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so it officially kind of starts now January starts. So we have that.
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We're following up on that today. Charleston City Council doesn't meet until tomorrow
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night, so they'll have their meeting tomorrow night, and I think the mayor
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has told you before that her kind of state of the City address is tomorrow
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night, so that'll be if that'll be of interest to see what happens with
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that. And so we're just you know, getting it rolling here and there
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was there's a good bit of news actually during I know a lot of people
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had like in between both holidays off, you know, so maybe you're all
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just trying to catch up. Yeah, but there was I mean, there
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was a good bit of news during that. So I encourage you to go
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back and read our stories if we're just trying to catch up, all right,
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Jeff, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot to this nine fifty three
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details in the coming days from the Voice of Charleston and WCCHS Texas. I
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want to give a huge thanks to the Republican Legislature and governor for extending the
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car inspection to two years. I was just thinking to myself yesterday what West
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Virginia needs is more. Jelopes on the road says, I'm so sorry,
48:30
but Democrats can actually be shocked and why so many people including myself have left
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their party and are still leaving in droves. Leave out, nasty, snide
48:37
and rude. Many talk about those they don't agree with. They have the
48:42
goal to lecture the rest of us on how tolerant they are, how accepting
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they are. No wonder these younger generations are as out of control when it
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comes to bullying, intimidation, name calling, an assault, and mob mentality.
48:52
They see the power of the d in that no one is ever held
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accountable for their words, choices or actions. Congratulations Dems, you must be
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proud. Texas Day Friendly reminded that everyone's fishing licenses in Westerrginia expired yesterday.
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Our legislators should take notes from Ohio and other neighbors and change our fishing license
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to three hundred and sixty five days from day to purchase. As it stands
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now, if you don't renew it today, you won't get full value on
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your license purchase. This discourages folks from getting the fishy license in the fall,
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which is peak trout Seas and Texas Dear Dave, happy new You're Charleston's
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side note the mac Warner debate. It's twenty twenty four. It's not paint
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chips, it's not microplastics. Keep up people, So it's a texture.
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I want to get this in. I was reading an article over the weekend
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in a Wall Street Journal I had to do with COVID and our country's response
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to it. Hard to believe it was around this time, four years ago
49:42
we started hearing reports of this mysterious new virus. Well, four years later,
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three million deaths worldwide, one point one million in America, and it's
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not gone away yet, even with vaccination. In fact, my wife and
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our neighbors spent their holidays confined to their house with no visitors and barely able
49:57
to get out of bed due to COVID. So it's still here anyway.
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The article from the Wall Street Journal actually was an op ed from former National
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Institutes of Health chief Francis Collins. He took part in a panel discussion on
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the way COVID was handled in this country, and specifically, it turns out,
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according to him, it could have been handled a heck of a lot
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different than it was. Mister Collins, and I'm paraphrasing here said basically,
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their reaction to COVID by our government officials, quote totally disrupted people's lives,
50:27
ruined the economy, kept many kids, et cetera in a way that they've
50:30
never recovered from. It was a mistake. This is mister Collins, imagine
50:37
that he was part of all this, with doctor Fauci and others. And
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you know, I said this before, I don't necessarily blame I don't necessarily
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blame government officials. They were acting on the info that was given to them
50:51
at the time. And it turns out, according to this guy who was
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pretty big right there along with Fauci, that it was an overreaction. And
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this was a guy that was the time the head of the National Institutes of
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Health. The up ed again over the weekend in the Wall Street Journal.
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Basically, what he's saying now is precaution should have been taken on the elderly
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and those with underlying health conditions, but for the rest of us, we
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should have continued with our normal lives. Now, doctor Fauci is asking mister
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Collins to stop with the rhetoric. What rhetoric actually is that doctor Fauci the
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truth. We are still trying to recover from the damage done by the lockdowns,
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and we will be for decades again, probably for the remaining thirty years
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or so that I have left on this earth. And again I'm saying this
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not as a COVID denier. I'm not. I lost people close to me
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because of COVID, including one of my best friends who passed at the age
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of fifty. I was vaccinated boosted, But as now others are seeing the
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total lockdowns, shutdowns, what we did to our school system, what we
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did to our businesses, and it was all pretty much shut down, and
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according to at least one guy who was pretty high up and was part of
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it, it was a mistake, as we are now learning. All Right,
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we gotta go. Ryan Nicholson, thank you so much. Also thank
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you to Greg Thomas for stopping by this morning and Jeff Jenkins from the newsroom
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as well. Final the News of the Day wv Metronews dot com at WCCHS
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Network dot com as well. Tomorrow coming up on the show, Delegate Kayla
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Young will be stopping by a week away from the session, and we'll get
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Delegate Kayla Young's thoughts on that. Also Rick Cavaner from the Canawan County Board
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of Education and Charleston Urban Works will be stopping by tomorrow as well. Thank
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you so much to our Texters guests and Ryan, I will see you tomorrow.
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