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What’s Next for FSU Basketball · North Florida Sports Network Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: The North Florida Sports Network.
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Oh right, Welcome back.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: It's the North Florida Sports Network, and you know hoops.
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: There it went again, Hoops, you know most people probably moved on Hoops.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: There it is.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: Really tough year.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: I like this team Tough ending to the year.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I still think they're better than what they've been putting on the floor.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they came up short.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: I got on the road.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: They got beat up.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: Not come up short, they got their butts kicked man.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: It's what this team wants to be Max and Max talent.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: You know if everything is going to be going their way, but nothing's gone their way and there was just some bad.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: They didn't play well at all and yeah what do you got to say other than what's going to happen?
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: What do you do as a team Do?
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: you look at AC Florida getting better.
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: They hired a new coach.
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to make the tournament.
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: They'll be in the tournament this year, oh yeah they'll be in the tournament.
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: You know the conference has a lot to do with it.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: You know what's going to happen in the conference.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: But for now which makes me think that Ham's going to have another year, because right now, with everything that's going on on the foot, you know, with the legal issues and the conference issues, you know, I don't think that's a big hire.
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: You know a guy who's been there for that long to get his replacement.
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you try to give him one more year?
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: And I think it's doing it as much for yourself, if you're the AD, as you're doing it for Leonard Hamilton to prepare to make that hire, to get it.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it is.
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: You're going to get rid of a guy that's been there for decades and you know percentages aren't on your side that the next guy is going to be able to keep carrying the Well I.
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: So you got to try to get the best guy you can, yeah definitely can, if there's something that you see out there like, or if you see an option that you can snag and you know it.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: If not, I mean you keep him another year.
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: Right, but I mean, at some point you're going to have to like just say they bring him back next year.
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: Goes well, they make the tournament.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: You know it's one last good season.
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: Again like you're going to be rebuilding the team the next year.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: Right, are you going to have the faith and the patience that Leonard Hamilton, even older now, even I just think that you got to at some point.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: You got to let him know that it's the last year.
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: If they haven't already done it this year, then yeah, I mean you probably give them one more year and the season's not going to get any worse.
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: You mean you lose to Miami.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: it is what it is.
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: You're not going to postseason anyway, nah man, this is a big game.
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: It's still got one game that matters Sure.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: It's a rivalry game.
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be nice to win it A home game, don't worry I think you have, you can finish the season the regular season above 500.
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can finish the conference season 500.
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: That's not that matters, I think.
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: I mean you don't want to just pack it in yet, based on having the worst, season coming off, the worst season in program history.
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: Last year, if you can say hey, I came back and we were 500, hey, next year we'll be better.
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have our roster full strength the whole year.
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: They have to get better to have some pieces.
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: They're going to have to have the transfer portal if that were to happen real fast.
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, get some shooters.
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: They can't shoot the three worth of crap, dude.
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest with you.
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: They need 10 new players at Watkins.
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: You know, corin played really well last night.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's another one of the guys that every time he has kind of a big game, nobody else seems to do anything.
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: But yeah, there, just I.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: And what are you?
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: What are you gonna be able to get in the transfer portal?
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: That's the thing is like everybody's going to the transfer portal, now You're not.
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: And this is Such a such a difference between football and basketball in terms of where Florida State sits in the pecking order, and so there has to be a coach At certain point.
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: Right, and you should.
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: I mean they probably already have been planning this.
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, as, when you have an older coach, a guy that's been Doing it for a long time, I mean you obviously you got to keep looking and and having names out there that that Are possibilities or guys that you would target, but it's I don't know.
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: It's a tough spot, because if they are doing any recruiting at the high school level which I don't really think they are, I mean Essentially, I mean you tell them just don't even worry about it this year.
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: It kind of just a I Don't know it's a rough spot to be in era to like it matter what.
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: You have to have, nil.
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: You have to have money.
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: You have to be able to offer.
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna offer the kid?
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: I think you, you got and you want to develop them and get them drafted, and he did that for a good stretch.
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: He did that really well, you know, and I still think, if you're Right coach not nothing.
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: It's nothing, it's no knock on Leonard Hamilton.
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: No it's just this, this era.
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: You could.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: You saw, you've seen it across like coach K no more J J, right, the guy Villanova coach, yeah, you know, he was like I can't do this and that was way earlier, right, he saw it coming right and it's the style it that.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: Leonard Hamilton, you know the program having the bigger guards the length.
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: You know, sometimes sacrifice it takes some offensive ability just to make sure that you have that that defensive tenacity, that that athleticism.
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: On a team like it's when, when it's not going good and you're not getting like like top players, like you're gonna, you're gonna look, like we look.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: We can't score, you know, and that's yeah.
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: I don't see it changing.
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: I don't see us going out and getting any shooters, because everybody's gonna be going out getting the top shooters.
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: You know you got to take what you can get, the same position you found yourself in last year.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm you know when you landed with Primo Spears again.
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: That's why I started off, though you want to finish 500, so you gonna get another year just to ride it out.
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: You know right, maybe like hey, goodbye, farewell tour, right, you know like, see what you get, yeah, so maybe you can get Someone to come want to be a part of that one last ride, and maybe they will make maybe what they go to the Transportal.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: They will focus yeah, they'll focus more on on, yeah, on guys that can actually shoot and less about you know.
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: I know he's a guard, but is he six, four?
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know man, it just seems that it's gonna be.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: it's More difficult than ever to do the way ham would want to do it right you know, and his way worked.
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: And then in the peak of his career, Well, it worked because it got it.
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: Got it got it because of the players.
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and then he lost the coaches, the recruiting everything changed down a tick.
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: Everything changed right after.
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Tough game.
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: You almost Don't even want it for him and you could.
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: Who's gonna?
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: It's not the same game.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: There's some schools, so you have to go to state that have stepped their game up in basketball considerably.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: That have also Impacted Florida State right, so you're gonna Georgia, georgia, alabama, auburn, tennessee, all of those schools that dip into Georgia and North Carolina to get players.
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: Hell, alabama even came into Quincy and got Chris Parker last year who doesn't play, by the way but it it's made it harder, it's made it tougher and you know you can't, you can't ignore the fact that you lost your two best recruiters for a long stretch of that success.
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: So you need to find someone that's.
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's just time to wrap it up.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's had a great career here.
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: I think if he gets another year it's definitely man just like look hopefully get some hot you know flares to some boosters.
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: Come in Nice some nitro boosted.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just wants to throw some money around.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: Bob-op Miller comes back and develops, you know he's got, you know whatever.
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: I know he can do whatever he wants.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: I don't like he needs a little bit of a spark.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: I think he just I Don't know.
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: Is he ever I mean, are you ever gonna get the effort out of that kid?
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: He's still only 19 years old, right right, but.
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: And yeah, when it when it's going good he looks great, but when it's not going good, that he loaths a lot man, right?
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: So that's what I meant.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: He needs that spark, yeah, and that hunger, and maybe he'll get it.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe he'll get the there was.
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: If there was, you know, like strong vocal leadership or a general on the team here.
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: Things like this Team's not vocal right, that's gonna be bad and basketball man, that's never gonna be good, ever.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: But you got to recruit Op, you got it.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: You can't recruit that.
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: You got to recruit guys that are gonna go out there and be leaders.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: Well, mostly time that comes with guards man, like guys that are floor generals and I'd like for me, you got to just quit Ignoring kids based on their height.
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: You just got to go get Dogs at the guard position.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: You know kids that can handle the ball number one?
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: I Don't know it's it.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: Just you're watching Jaylin Warley Get wide open looks behind the arc last night, just the entire first half and not even think about shooting it yes.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: That's, that's a liability man like what I don't know.
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: It's frustrating.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: I think the team is better than then scratching 500.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: I think they could have made the NIT this year Been a bubble team had they been at full strength, but they just kind of I don't know they lost some, some steam here down the stretch.
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's lost to Georgia Tech.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: Pretty much Put the nail in it.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: Well, you know you hopefully get some pride on the last game you don't want to lose.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you got Max, leave it coming in here at senior day.
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: I take that person, yeah, this this kid, you know he's like I'm on the line and Really wish that Fletcher was was healthy right.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: Well, he's not and not.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: You got to bring it one last time At home.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: It'll be on the weekend.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: Start of spring break.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see you.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe there'll be a crowd, maybe not, it doesn't matter, I don't gotta come, bring it, get a win, finish the season 500.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, you look at it, last year was right, I didn't prove you have to just Build.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: You can't really, you know, you have to keep trying.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you mean Hamilton's coming back, you got to try to develop these guys and you got to try to get better, yeah what a horns gotten better.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he has.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, what's, what's coming back?
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: He's, he's gonna be limited in certain areas, like defensively.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: What's he give you?
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: Right now, that's.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: That's your only, is that?
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: shot blocking ability.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: You're only the rebounding and unless you're gonna turn it up, and if you want to play that style, you need to have a little bit more firepower.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: And the team just shoots under 30% from three way too many times and you're not.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: You're never gonna win.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: You know game.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: It's not even the three that that bothers me the most.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: It's the fact that that nobody has a mid-rate.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: The oprimo has one every now and then.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: If he can hit that shot, he's got a mid-range shot.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: Nobody else does anything inside the arc Well at all.
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: You know, and I'm including layup like Jamir walking can drive to the lane, get to the lane, he can actually make a layup, that's it.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: Nobody else has any offensive game.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: You know, getting to the hoop, like it's just.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: They're severely limited With what.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: How they can score man Well, man Hoops there it went.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: There it was hoops, get a new team.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: What's going on in football?
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: Football.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: I know baseball is on a tear.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: They got delayed the other day.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they play it for today.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: They play today.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: Watch out, though, that's one of those teams, man Golf Coast.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: It's gonna have last ball, it's baseball man, you're gonna have your ups and downs but you were saying the other, like the last show, this team, the lineups, a lot better and.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: That's gonna give you.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: That's gonna give you a chance to win more games that your pitching doesn't show up Like they did and that tournament, yeah, so it builds off that and the pitching gets.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: You know, you work on it and you have less pressure on you because you have more a consistent lineup and you can go out there and work on things and hopefully have and in gain ability to you know, step up and it's exciting.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the kid they're starting today has been been pretty good so far in the season.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: Pretty good, pretty good counter whittaker he's you know.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: So we'll see it's a good.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: It's a good.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: It's a good little test.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: They're not, golf course.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Ain't the team they were last year no well, we had to go.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Got to get on it.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: What's going on in recruiting, bringing in some uh, it's all the linemen man shuffling in the big guys.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Next couple weeks it's going to be spring visits, alright, I mean they, they uptick in recruiting considerably after last season.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Four star, five star, those kind of kids coming through.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: What's exciting about it is to see the consistent program that you have.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: You know you have coach that was well well respected, well highly regarded in the industry.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Alabama went after him.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like you know, it's not going to be lost on.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: You're going to be a little bit of a niffin yeah.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Not to say that it wouldn't have worked.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: But I mean they may have, and again, it's prime target.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he's going to say yes, he's referring to Chris Lowe the court.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Right Shirts.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great, 200% accurate.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: That's outstanding.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: But Norvel's here implementing his plan still and it works, except to buy in.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: He's the only good guys that want to come.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the uptake of the pool is just getting bigger.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: You know the kiddie pool that he has to choose.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: You got the good swimmers just getting there Right.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: People want to come swimming.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: We'll see, man.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: We'll see if he can capitalize on that or if he's just going to be a guy that's going to have us right there at the old eight to 12 range, which, whatever man, I don't.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Dude, I don't care, rankings don't matter, no.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: I mean you look at results.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: And the players development, and that's what you're getting here.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: That's what you had.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: That's why Alabama wanted that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's you have a standard.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Come to work every day, exactly.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: You just can't control it, like you're not going to be able to control every little thing in the game, but you can have.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: You can control how you react to, how you wake up, how you go about doing things, and it was working.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: They wanted them.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: They didn't get him.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: He's here to be excited about that.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: It's going to attract the talent level.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: It's only going to increase.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, without question.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: So if we can finally get into the playoff, yeah, we'll watch the baseball man and we'll see how that goes.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: We'll watch it and react to it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time, right here.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: North Florida sports network.