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#146 - Mario · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: the Mario Interview bulet caps show special guests in here.
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  Speaker 1: My guy, the legend, My guy's good, Mario. Well, yah, sir, welcome.
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  Speaker 1: How you being. I've been great, Bro, long time, it's
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  Speaker 1: been a minute. Yeah, you got this new record out
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  Speaker 1: with Chris, which is crazy. Get back, Bro, appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: Like what's been going on in your world though, Man,
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  Speaker 1: for people who ain't been paying attention, man a lot man.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the singles out right now. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: just want to do something iconic for R and B.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're working on shooting the video, getting that
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  Speaker 1: all the way right, setting up the summertime. I got
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  Speaker 1: a couple of other singles coming. Really just focusing on
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  Speaker 1: singles for this summer, you know what I'm saying, and
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  Speaker 1: then project probably end of the year, top of next
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  Speaker 1: year sometime. In my world, bro, I've been creating a lot,
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  Speaker 1: creating a lot, writing and writing a book right now,
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  Speaker 1: working on some other business. Is the book kind of
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  Speaker 1: like your life story? Nah, it's not really a life story.
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  Speaker 1: It's more of like a memoir. It's more of like
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  Speaker 1: a balancing your personal spiritual space conversation, you know, this
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  Speaker 1: conversation having with myself that I'm kind of bringing the
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  Speaker 1: world into. You know, I feel like I've been in
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  Speaker 1: the industry so long, and I've also just been through
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  Speaker 1: a lot of different things and different dimensions of my life.
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  Speaker 1: I needed an outlet. You know. It's kind of like therapy,
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  Speaker 1: therapy in a way, you know, So it promotes mental health,
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  Speaker 1: it promotes spiritual awareness, it promotes social awareness. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's got a little bit of everything in there. You
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  Speaker 1: have had a pretty wild ride through just life. When
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  Speaker 1: we think about things that have happened in your personal life,
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  Speaker 1: your career has always it's got peaks and valleys, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, anytime you're a creator and you're under the microscope,
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  Speaker 1: it feels like, you know, sometimes we forget that, like
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  Speaker 1: you're a human being, and yeah, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you have to train yourself as like you know, as
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  Speaker 1: you as you get older. I started so young, but
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  Speaker 1: as you get older, I think you get these pockets
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  Speaker 1: of like growth, spurts of spiritual intelligence, emotional intelligence, and
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  Speaker 1: those are the things that you need to tap into
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  Speaker 1: if you're not distracted enough too much by the lifestyle,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And I always I've always been aware of that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I had my moments while I was super
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  Speaker 1: distracted by it, but like for the most part, I've
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  Speaker 1: always been self aware just because of the where I
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  Speaker 1: grew up. You know what I'm saying. I've seen all
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  Speaker 1: the craziest stuff in my life earlier on. So this
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  Speaker 1: was just kind of like, Okay, this is more like
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  Speaker 1: human behavior, you know, psychological, energetic. How do you navigate that?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I feel like the industry is more so
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  Speaker 1: you talk about mental health, like, yeah, how like because you've,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, you've been You've dealt with stuff that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people haven't had to deal with in
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  Speaker 1: their life, even and as a star, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, which is what's even crazier. People deal with
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  Speaker 1: certain shit, no one knows who the fuck they are.
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  Speaker 1: You're dealing with a lot of shit. You know what
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  Speaker 1: it comes to what happened with your mom, you know,
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  Speaker 1: moving back to Baltimore when you were already on you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, do you feel like you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think sometimes we look at artists and we're like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if we think of Mario, We're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what's Mario been up to? Do you feel like you've
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  Speaker 1: had to like kind of battle through any like personal
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  Speaker 1: depression or anything to kind of break through, like to
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  Speaker 1: where you are today. What we call depression. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is just like my perspective, but what we call
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  Speaker 1: depression and you know, stress and just those immense, deep
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  Speaker 1: moments of like where you feel like your life is over,
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  Speaker 1: the world is over, is triggers for us to work
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  Speaker 1: on things that are unhealed, that we're not walking a
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  Speaker 1: path that's true to our purpose sometimes, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. So for me, it was like I have
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  Speaker 1: moments of depression, but I didn't sit them in them
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  Speaker 1: too long. I'm more so spent more time just studying
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  Speaker 1: and understanding my history, understanding you know, my purpose outside
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  Speaker 1: of just music, and it just gave me more more
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  Speaker 1: of a of a purpose and foundation when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to me as a human being, and that helps with
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  Speaker 1: everything else. Once I figured that part out, and luckily
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  Speaker 1: I started young enough to whear those five six years
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  Speaker 1: where I was just like not really doing the music
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  Speaker 1: thing and just kind of focusing on myself. Luckily I
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  Speaker 1: started so young, you know, because now it's like I
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  Speaker 1: have all of that knowledge to kind of like apply
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  Speaker 1: to by now, which I was gonna say everything. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: do you think starting kind of having to be forced
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  Speaker 1: to grow up fast? Right? Yeah? Do you think that
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  Speaker 1: that kind of helped prepare you for life? Like you know,
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  Speaker 1: I had maybe you gone through some of the things
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  Speaker 1: you went through at eighteen or nineteen years old without
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  Speaker 1: having to have been kind of a superstar, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: b Mario, do you think that that kind of helped
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  Speaker 1: prepare you for some of the things you did go
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  Speaker 1: through later on? I think, like I said before, just
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  Speaker 1: coming from Baltimore, being exposed to so much at a
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  Speaker 1: young age, like you know, being in the house full
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  Speaker 1: of eighteen with eighteen people as uncles, cousins, mom's, boyfriends, aunties,
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  Speaker 1: boy like, it was just you know, it was one
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  Speaker 1: of those houses. Like when we lived in Emerson Village,
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  Speaker 1: it was like remember that scene on Men, It's a
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  Speaker 1: society and beginning to open the scene. I wouldn't say
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  Speaker 1: kids was exposed all the way, but it was it
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  Speaker 1: was close to that. Like you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't know what was going on, but we knew,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, being that I saw
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  Speaker 1: so much and I was exposed to so much, I
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  Speaker 1: had already been prepared mentally for inconsistencies in dealing with
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  Speaker 1: things and dealing with people, dealing with certain and so
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  Speaker 1: I didn't as I got older, I didn't like like
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  Speaker 1: attach it to a reality my mind. It was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is my reality, and the reality of the space
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  Speaker 1: that I'm in is this, this and that, Like you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, you have a house full
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  Speaker 1: of eighteen people you grow up in in Baltimore. Shout
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  Speaker 1: to Baltimore, by the way, total coincidence. I'm wearing a
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  Speaker 1: white shirt. I see resting piece of the rest in peace.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, you get on as a teenager, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean you're like super on. You're like running one of
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  Speaker 1: six in park, Like you're like the next R and
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  Speaker 1: B sensation, Dude, the house full of eighteen people start
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  Speaker 1: looking for you to like start handling some things as
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  Speaker 1: far as bills or was it not? Never like that? Nah,
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like that, bro. Like my family was very supportive.
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  Speaker 1: I left Baltimore for like four years when I was
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  Speaker 1: like fourteen, you know what I'm saying. So it was
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  Speaker 1: more about who'd you go up to Jersey? Okay, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was more about
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  Speaker 1: like it was more about like missing my family and
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  Speaker 1: just like them understand like that transition between me being
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  Speaker 1: just Mario but like the Mario the artists, like you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It wasn't like like that later
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  Speaker 1: on it kind of in some cases, but like it was,
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  Speaker 1: my family was never like like that. My family was
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  Speaker 1: always supportive. My family's real, like real people, like you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, you talk about how you
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  Speaker 1: took like a four or five year break from music
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  Speaker 1: as far as like just having that be like your
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  Speaker 1: main focus. Yeah, I always think it's like you as
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  Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't get enough flowers for just kind of
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  Speaker 1: like your legacy, like some of the records you've put
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  Speaker 1: out some of the bodies of work you've had, and
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  Speaker 1: like just in general, do you feel like that four
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  Speaker 1: to five years was necessary even though it might have
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  Speaker 1: maybe hurt your place in the game. Yeah, definitely it
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  Speaker 1: was necessary for me. It was necessary for my personal growth. Again,
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  Speaker 1: it was also necessary for me to like not like
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  Speaker 1: attach my value to success or whatever success is perceived
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  Speaker 1: to be by people to be. You know, for me,
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  Speaker 1: I redefine what success was for me. So success for
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  Speaker 1: me was a healthy mind, a healthy spirit. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Success is very subjective man, longevity, bro
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  Speaker 1: let's be let's keep it a hondred. Like we live,
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  Speaker 1: you know, these lives. You know, we have twenty four
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  Speaker 1: hours in a day. You know, when you become an artists,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many other things that people don't realize, the
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  Speaker 1: responsibilities and the stress that come with being an artist,
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  Speaker 1: Like it really can take a toll on you. So
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  Speaker 1: if you're not like preparing yourself for the next ten years,
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  Speaker 1: then I don't think Like for me, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: artists have to learn how to prepare themselves for the
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  Speaker 1: next ten to fifteen years. Like, what's your retirement plan?
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  Speaker 1: Like you feel me because like you know, this shit
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  Speaker 1: music come and go. I've been blessed enough to come
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  Speaker 1: out in a time where like music was really about classics.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, this is true. People be like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: you are you making a comebacks? Like, nah, it's not
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  Speaker 1: really a comeback. Let me love you streams two million
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  Speaker 1: times every day and a half. That's so crazy, you
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  Speaker 1: feel me how to breathe? Like, my hits still go crazy, sure,
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  Speaker 1: as if they just came out. So it's like for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's just more of a rebranding thing than it is
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  Speaker 1: a coming back thing. Yeah, I think like you said, man,
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  Speaker 1: I think like when we think of success, like success
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  Speaker 1: is defined it every everyone's personal like happiness. Yeah, life,
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  Speaker 1: for sure, I'm not you know. I think that there's
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  Speaker 1: like if you if you're if you're in the industry
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  Speaker 1: and you're known for being an artist, there is definitely
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  Speaker 1: certain milestone, certain milestones and certain things that comes with
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  Speaker 1: Like somebody can view your success as an artist in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the numbers and in terms of like there's
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  Speaker 1: there's no you know, but in terms of like personal success,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's something that you have to that has to
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  Speaker 1: be your own personal virtue, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that success comes with happiness comes with success.
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  Speaker 1: To me, it's like if I'm not happy, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: a relationship, a business, working partnership, like if we're not
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  Speaker 1: enjoying the process of this, and I think the pandemic
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  Speaker 1: shure that's all that, Like, Yo, are you enjoying what
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  Speaker 1: you do? Like who are you really outside of just
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  Speaker 1: what the world knows you for or your public perception
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  Speaker 1: of that way during the way, Yeah, you know, so,
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  Speaker 1: so success has to go for me, true success has
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  Speaker 1: to run hand in hand with happiness and peace and
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  Speaker 1: enjoying what you're doing and enjoying the process whether you're
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  Speaker 1: making money, are you Are you enjoying what you do
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  Speaker 1: while you're making this bread? Like you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So music wise, now, you obviously put the new record
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  Speaker 1: out with Chris, which is dope to see you guys
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  Speaker 1: on because you guys kind of had like I guess,
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  Speaker 1: kind of from the same era a bit, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I came out a few years before. I'd
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  Speaker 1: say you came out first, but like you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of you know, similar eras, Like I feel like what
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  Speaker 1: also came. He is crazy because the first time I
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  Speaker 1: ever seen him he came out on tour. I was
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  Speaker 1: on tour with Beyonce and he came out on stage
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  Speaker 1: and did I think he did run it? That sounds
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  Speaker 1: about right, And I was like, Yo, this kid is
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  Speaker 1: out of here, like he's a superstar. Like it was
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  Speaker 1: just which Beyonce tour was at. It was Destiney Show Tour.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: I forgot the name of it, but it was so
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  Speaker 1: you were on tour with Destiny's Child World tour with
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  Speaker 1: the world to it is crazy. I had to be wild. Wow. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: So this is before Beyonce went solo every every continent. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: this is pre Beyonce going so alone. Pretty crazy in
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  Speaker 1: love Yeah oh wow. Yeah. So that was like that
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  Speaker 1: was a special time people were forgetting Destiny's Child like
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  Speaker 1: as a group and like how crazy they were, Like
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  Speaker 1: it was they had a lot of hits and they
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  Speaker 1: had a lot their fan base was just versatile and
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  Speaker 1: just you know, I think they came out a time
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  Speaker 1: where like girl groups and groups in general was still like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, popping, and it was it was important to
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  Speaker 1: the culture. They were kind of like the last great
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  Speaker 1: female group who really think about it, like when it
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  Speaker 1: was like the last time there's been an amazing like
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  Speaker 1: female R and B group that really like, I can't
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  Speaker 1: really think of one bro like that. Nah. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like they were the last of their they were kind
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  Speaker 1: you know, and even R and B groups in general,
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  Speaker 1: and the last who everybody kind of branched off and
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  Speaker 1: did their own thing and put out like actual independent
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  Speaker 1: projects that had success too. You know. I just think
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, when I was a kid, it
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  Speaker 1: was like Drew Hill, there was Jagged Edge, There's one twelve,
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  Speaker 1: and like now I don't like, is there an R
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  Speaker 1: and B group that I'm forgetting that? I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's been so many like on and off.
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  Speaker 1: But now as far as girl groups, I can't remember any.
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  Speaker 1: Did you kind of did every one kind of know
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  Speaker 1: when you were around Dusty Shop back then that Beyonce
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  Speaker 1: was like, you know, okay, there's something special about of course,
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  Speaker 1: be like, you know, she's of course, yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, she a superstar. She a virgo like me,
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  Speaker 1: he shout out to the verb said Virgos do it
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  Speaker 1: the best. Michael Jackson a lot of great Now, I
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  Speaker 1: think I think it all goes back to work ethic
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  Speaker 1: bro like she was. She was training Bread for it,
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  Speaker 1: you know from from a young age. You know, think
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  Speaker 1: about Michael like he was training Bread for it. You
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  Speaker 1: know what you focus your attention and awareness on. It's
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: going to continue to to to magnify, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, and be more magnetic, so in polarizing. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy because I think when I think
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  Speaker 1: of BT and one O six in Park, I think
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  Speaker 1: of you, I think of bow Wow, I think of
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  Speaker 1: a few artists. Do you remember the first time you
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  Speaker 1: went on One of six and Park and like who
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  Speaker 1: was hosting? Yeah, A J and Free was hosting. That's
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  Speaker 1: the see that's the ogs, Like AG and Free is like,
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  Speaker 1: that's how I remember One O six in Park. There
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  Speaker 1: were so many other you know, incarnations of the hosts
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  Speaker 1: of the show, but AJ and Free were the ones,
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  Speaker 1: the original, you know, they the original man in the
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: in the whole team over there. Like I see some
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  Speaker 1: of them still on different production sets, movie sets, war shows.
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  Speaker 1: You know, everybody still It's crazy. You see people AJ's
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  Speaker 1: on like Entertainment tonight. At least he was like I'd
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  Speaker 1: be like Entertainment tonight was I'm like, yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: watch a lot of TV, so with no but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Ag always was doing his thing. Yeah no, that's crazy man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's so. Do you remember how many times you
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: actually ended up going because you know you were on
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: there a lot. I can't remember offhand, but like I
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: would say probably least like ten times or more. That's huge,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: ten times that many. Still, I think I think we
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: definitely got to bring something like that back. I think
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: the Call to You Will Miss I think YouTube kind
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: of killed the Video Show, if that makes sense, because
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I think they've tried to bring back t r L
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: before and it just didn't. I just think you think,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I think the digital Crusade in general did it. Yeah.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Like it's like, so there's so people creating their own
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: podcast on this, they on that that is like it's
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: just some go where they want to get there. It's
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: it's a different It's definitely just everything's just different. Like
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I'm working on something crazy in that space kind of
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: but bigger right now. I can't talk about it all
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: the way, but it's gonna be it's gonna be super crazy.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Like I'm working on some cool stuff. Would you ever
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: do like a show like the Mass Singer if they
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: asked you, yeah, I'll do that for fun for sure.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: The Mass SERI has been kind of lit, low key.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I do that for fun. It's like certain people like
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Whiz was on there. I want to say, Tiger was
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: on there. Obviously Tiger did it? Did it? That's great?
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: T Paying one, t pain one, Yeah did Yeah. I
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: would definitely do it because I think it's I think
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: it's because I would be able to show people like
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the other sides of my voice, the other textures and
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: tones that I because it's like R and B is
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: like I haven't even people haven't even touched, like seen
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: or experienced like the magnitude of where I can go vocally.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: So that's definitely one that I would do. Like, how
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: do you feel about the current state of R and B,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Because it's definitely a lot different than ten to fifteen
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: years ago as far as just like you know, I
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: feel like I feel like R and B has changed
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: so much, even just like you know, we talked about
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: the digital era, I feel like artists are so like
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: they have to be more transparent now as to where
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: maybe when you know I was a kid and you
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: were a kid. You know, every R and B artist
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: had this like image, right, they were like sex symbols.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: They had polish. It was very polished. Nowadays it's like
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: you could just be a normal dude and like the
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: fans almost like that more now, Yes, I think it's
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: getting back to no point, it's in it. It's getting
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: back to the rawness and connecting with your fans and
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: connecting with people and jamming, you know what I'm saying,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: jam sessions. Getting back to just you know, working with
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: people that you vibe with on a creative level and
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: making music that you love and hopefully having a label
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: that supports that. Do you like it? Do you like
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the artist? Now? I think the hardest part about it
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: is finding a machine that's willing to get behind, even
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: if it's independent, because independents are now like the new labels,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, like the process, you
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, getting them to also believe in
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: like because it's so much in the marketplace, you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: so rmb tends to take longer to built, you know,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: unless you're just one of those phenomenons like a Russ
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: who like figure out how to you know, do your
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: well you know, Yeah, what Rust did is what I
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: just advise a lot of artists to do. It's like,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: just keep putting up shots, especially if you're independent. Yes,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: but you gotta understand that's a psychological part that comes
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: with that. And sorry, I'm moving around a lot. You're
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: like very like it. It's a psychological part that comes
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: with doing that. Like when you're when you're trained to okay,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: one single here and then album, like you gotta like
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: retrain yourself. I've been retraining myself because you're thinking, like, Okay,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I got a song, we got to make sure there's
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: a budget behind it, the video, Bro, the vergo, like,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I think so meticulously my they'd be like, Bro, you
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: over think. I'm very like the colors that this got
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a master. Even when I did my independent project, I
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: was shooting my videos, I was doing I was so
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: meticulous versus just throwing out music and just seeing what stick.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I'm training myself to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: kind of find a balance between being overly creative and like,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: you know, everything's got to be perfect to just yo,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: do what you love. Are you currently independent? Yeah? Okay,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that's a good place. I got a partnership, so me,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Dre London, great guy, he's a maniac. I know that guy.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Shout out to my manager Andy. You know, we you know,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: we just we partnering it and we got a lot
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: of great things on the way, you know. I think
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: it's done a really good job of being like kind
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: of like a traditional R and B artist, but also
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: adapting to the way people can sue music. As Eric Bellinger, Yeah,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: because Serk has has he's got so much catalog. Yeah,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I mean he's putting out two albums a year. Yeah,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: And I think that's smart for him, though, I think
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's it's very it's very like, you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: he's like one of the guys who I see who's
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: like a traditional R and B artist that could have
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: existed in two thousand and three for sure, and has
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: figured out kind of like how to do it independently
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: in a way that like, you know, just keep putting
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: up put He's just feeding his fan base, you know,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: for sure. That's that's the I think like for artists
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: who came out in this particular error, I think it's smart.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: For me, it's more about like still making classic records,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: even if it's you know, it's like it's like it
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: still has to have a certain energy and vibe to
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: its whereas though it stands out from everything else. You
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm not just like throwing anything
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: against the against the board. I don't have an enemy
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: to do that. But I definitely will say to the
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: fans out there watching, see the people out there, like
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: this is probably gonna be the most music but within
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: this next two years that I put out in a
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: long time, that's actually quality of music. Have you? You
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: know what was dope about the pandemic is we get
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: all these verses battles. Yeah, and the Scott Storch one.
• 21:05
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• 21:06
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• 21:10
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• 21:12
  Speaker 1: He's doing the simmon thing. We definitely we wrap it up.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: We've been chopping it up, so it's always it's always
• 21:18
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• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I actually got a record that I want him to
• 21:23
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• 21:29
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  Speaker 1: amazing guy. Yes, So you say you're putting on more
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  Speaker 1: music in the next two and you've ever put out?
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  Speaker 1: Is this like, do you already have like a body
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  Speaker 1: of work put together? Are you still are you just
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  Speaker 1: constantly recording? Like? Nah, constantly? Well, I wouldn't say constantly.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very I don't just record just to record. It's
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  Speaker 1: an energy thing for me. When I go in the studio,
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  Speaker 1: it's like while it depends on who I'm working with.
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  Speaker 1: Like sometimes I work with writers and I'm like, we vibe,
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna go ahead and get this producer to
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  Speaker 1: come in, this producer come in, and you know, we
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  Speaker 1: just go in and go crazy on some you know
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: what I mean, on records because the vibe is there.
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  Speaker 1: If the ViBe's on there, we just cool, we kick
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  Speaker 1: it whatever, whatever. So I'm just finding out out who
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  Speaker 1: speaks my language right now, you know what I'm saying,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: who how we can affect the culture together there it is.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: We were talking about The Wire a bit. I got
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the Wire shirt on. When you watch The Wire, did
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  Speaker 1: you ever Obviously, being from Baltimore, that show was probably
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  Speaker 1: came out right around the time you probably started to
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't remember the year came out, but I
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  Speaker 1: do remember, like when I first saw it, I'm like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: this is how realistic was it to the city, Like,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: because I've heard a lot of people say it was
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: pretty spot on. It's bro it was really on, man.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Baltimore is a super raw city. Like, you know, what
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you see is what you get, you know what I mean,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: And if you go deeper into it, you're gonna see
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like so many different levels to it,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: but like it was definitely spot on, you know, from
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  Speaker 1: what I've experienced on what I've seen in my life
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  Speaker 1: growing up characters, you know, the Yeah, it was in
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  Speaker 1: the city, bro, it was looking black. It was all
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: of the houses I'll see, Like it's a lot of
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the actors too, were just like just they found them
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: in Baltimore, like Snoop. Snoop was just in Baltimore. Like
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: it was real, man, it was real. It was one
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: of the best depictions of like if you're shooting that
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: side of it. I think there's a lot about Baltimore
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that hasn't been shown though, you know what I'm saying
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: from the maybe the positives, the positive aspects, the politics,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: how it's grown. You know, I'm working on some projects
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: there right now too, to like bridge music, intellect and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: mental health. So yeah, man, it's gonna be passionate about
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: about making sure you make your impact back home. I am.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I've done enough enough to be honest, right. Yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: So this year next year, like that was just my
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: main focus on outside of just like music stuff and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: business stuff. How did you end up linking up with
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Dre London? For people who don't know, Dre's a fucking
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: mogo in the business. But he also you know, I've
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: known Dres since twenty fourteen. Yeah, but he works with
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: post Malone, you know, he's yeah, he manages post Malone. Yeah,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: he's a great business dude. Like I've met Dre through
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: through my manager Andy, who I've known for like thirteen years.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: We've been homees for years and he's been doing his thing,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and you know, it was just a conversation bro about music,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: about culture, about you know, about black music, and uh,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: it was a note bringer. You know, we just we
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: got the same vision when it comes to like, you know,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: how to impact the culture from an R and B standpoint,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and also me just stepping back into my my independency,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: but also doing it with people who've done it on
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: a certain level. I've done it on a certain level already,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: so I have to work with people who understand that,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: but who also understands the boss part of it, in
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: the independent part of it. You know, it's a lot
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: more responsibility when you're independent artist. As you know, it's
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: crazy because you know, with what you went through with
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: your mom obviously passing away. I feel like today there's
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of kids who are probably going through that
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: specific ordeal because of just the where the world is
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: with opiates and fetanol and like, there's a lot of
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: kids who are dealing with their parents that are addicted
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: or dealing with losing their parents to overdoses. What would
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: be some advice You've lived it and unfortunately, obviously the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: absolute worst thing came true for you, but you got
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: through it. You're here today. What would be some advice
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: for someone watching this who might be dealing with someone
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: who they loved that's going through something like that that
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: you could give them that maybe you know, you lived
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: it for them, kind of counselor talk to somebody, you know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I wish I would have started sooner. I just actually
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: started mental health counseling, childhood trauma counselor, and I'm okay
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: speaking about it because it's something that you know, when
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you're a strong person and you're able to take the
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: world on your shoulders and perform under pressure, oftentimes you
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: train yourself to think that you don't need, you know, counselor,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: you don't need to talk about things that really bother you.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Like it isn't until something really triggers you that you
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: realize you ain't here. And I've had those instances in
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: my life and I've ruined relationships because of those types
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of things. So I was like, you know what, let
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: me do this for myself so that you know, I
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: can have a family one day, so that I can
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: be a father one day, so that I can be
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: a better brother, so I can be a better friend.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. It affects every part
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: of your life as you get over older, because those
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: things don't just leave, you know. For me, it was
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: definitely a driving force. It taught me how to be numb.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: It taught me how to be perfectionist. It taught me
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: how to just focus on work, work, work, but it
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: didn't teach me how to heal. So I had to
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: take that upon myself. So I would say, man, mental
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: health is a real thing, and it needs to be
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you know, if you know and you're dealing with something
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and something's bothering you, you get triggered and you see
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: yourself being affected by this specific space in your life,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: then you got to talk about it. You gotta get helpful. Yeah,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's important for you to talk about that
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: because it lifts the stigma. And I think that the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: stigma started to get lifted. But like when you're somebody
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: who is the head of the household, who so many
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: people depend on, you're a leader in your in your group,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: your life, it's like who do you talk to? Right? Like?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Who you got to be? Somebody trust? You got to
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: be somebody you trust, trusted source, and you gotta feel comfortable.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: But definitely don't push it under the rug. You know,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you can't force someone to stop using. You can't force
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you know, someone to see how they hurting you. Sometimes
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: they don't know because there is a disease. You know,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Addiction is a disease man, And it's like it's it's
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: something that that attacks people physically and spiritually. So it's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: a it's a large karmic part of it that comes
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: with It's so much spiritually that comes with it. You
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: know that if you're if you you love somebody or
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you're close to somebody that's experiencing that, it's important for
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you to also, you know, get help for yourself while
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: you're still loving them through whatever they're going through. That's
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: that's right, man. Yeah, sure you said you were working
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: on the video for this Chris Brown record. Yes, sir,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: are we getting all the details together now? You know?
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: And Andy they're chopping it up, getting the getting it right.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: How many do you have the next thing already ready?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Or you just think I got it? I think so yeah,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I think I got it? Okay, So who have you been?
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: You don't tell us who you got songs with? It,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: just who you've been working with, Like who you've been
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: in the studio hanging out with maybe of course my
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: bro a one and then you know me in London
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: about to get in learning on the track, so that's
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: going to be a movie. Hasn't been working with d Mile?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I would just say those are d Mile
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: of London on the track, Like those are the two
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: producers I'm really excited about. Like working with D Mile
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: is just a genius. Man. He's just a musical genius,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: and he really loves music, and he really loves storytelling
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and he really loved just like creating, you know what
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So he's somebody always wanted to work with
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: and I feel like he just he gets music in
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a way where he's like a quincy where he could
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: work with you this artist and that artist and give
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: y'all all three what's specifically for you? You know what
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I'm saying in a space where it's also classic and relevant.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: It's crazy because London has kind of been the architect
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: of like some of the R and B that we
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: still kind of like, oh, this is actual R and B,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: which is obviously Summer walker you know Summer Walkers. Yeah, yeah,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: London is crazy, or some of the R and B
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: acts that are new or that like inspire you or
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that you're just like, yeah, this is this is some
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: like this is some shit. I can actually really the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: fuck man. Lucky Day Bro, Lucky Lucky's fire. I say Lucky,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I would say I like siss a lot. I don't
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: know if y'all still consider consider her new, but I
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: think female artists wise her paying she's crazy. I like
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Queen Naja. I got a crazy record with her. Oh fire, Yeah,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: she just put out a new record that's crazy. Shout
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: out to her. She's shout out. Shout out to the Queen.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Victoria Monet. Been knowing Victoria for years. She's an incredible right,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: incredible artist, incredible visionary when it comes to creativity. Who
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: else It's a few yeah, bread Fires is not too
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: far from you. Blast Blast. Todd Dollars is still one
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: of my favorite you know, got something crazy on his project.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Coming ties of prolific artists. I feel like we don't
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: give tied into flowers. I'm like, bro, this tie is
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a fucking he's him, he's him, dunk he really he
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: really wanted them guys. Man. Yeah, shout out to you
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: got something with on tis new album. Yeah, yeah, we
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: got it crazy and hopefully and make it on the project.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: It's this crazy joint. Okay, it's gonna be a good
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: year for R and B for sure. We got stuff
• 33:00
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  Speaker 1: let's get back to the interview. Have you gotten in
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: or hung out with postmal nitals? Obviously now that you
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: guys have dre's like a comedy. Yeah, we hung We
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: definitely hung man. We definitely a different guy to kick
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: it with. Huh bud light, cool bud light. He's been
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Did you play beer pong? Nah? No? Nah's he being
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: his own man. He's a man, good energy, but no
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: for sure he's the best man and he's still humble
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: as fuck too. It's crazy you wouldn't even be like, Yo,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: you're the biggest streaming artists in the world. But I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: think that's what it is though. Man, When you vibrate
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: on a certain level, it's like you're grateful for your accomplishment,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: but you're likely literally living in the moment. Bro. It's
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: the best feeling ever. That's like, the greatest feeling ever
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: is being able to live in a moment and truly
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: enjoy what you're creating and the energy that you're cultivating
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: and like the people you like. That's what it's about
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: for me now. It's like we all enjoying this process
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: because I know we're gonna get to where we're trying
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: to go because we're focusing. We all great, but we
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: enjoying it. Bro, are you enjoying it? You know what
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. You say you don't watch a lot of TV.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: What are you doing in your spare time? What are
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: your hobbies like? If you're not recording, if you're not
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: being an artist, what do you do? Man? I want
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: my dogs, uh, literal literal dogs. I got two pits. Okay,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, uh, traveling, writing my book, uh,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: creating other business opportunities. I'm working on some things in
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: the NFT space as well. Oh, I just saw you
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: posted that NFT thing. But but not like on some
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: like quick money grab shit, like really on some I'm
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: creating the projects that I'm really passionate about. And then
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: man business, other business adventures that I have. Like so,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I saw you just posted one of the monkey things.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Does that a trillionaire or some shit? I don't fun,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: you know, there's so many different lot of I don't
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: know what's going on anymore. I'm totally hip to that.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: It was a gift. I'm not hip to that space whatsoever.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's you know what it's. It's a
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: if you're if you like art. I like art, like
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I collect art, so I have art in the house,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: physical art. But like, if you are into art and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you're into storytelling, I think NFTs can be a fun investment,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: you know, if you want to just do like quick
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: flips and stuff, he's definitely got to learn about it, right.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: If you have a storytelling and you're into art, I
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: love you throw the oculus on and look at your
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: NFTs that way. I don't funk with the oculus I have.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I don't even have one. Oh you don't have one.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I don't have. Pretty crazy the oculus is, uh yeah,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I could see you ever see the movie Ready Player one? Oh?
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: You got to see it? Crazy, it's the oculus is.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I could see people getting like sucked into that ship
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: just like never coming back. Wow. It's like you put
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: that ship on and you're just in another world like
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: virtual reality. Yeah, but it's like you could like you
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: choose what kind of house you live in, Like I mean,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I think I think it's cool in moderation, you know
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, in moderation. And that's the key, because
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I could see some some I don't know, man, imagine
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: like when they have called speaking bro, like all right,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: that's cool. Like I think stuff like Instagram and some
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: of these other things are just as bad, bro, if
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: you do it too much, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: if you're like it's so easy to spend so much
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: time and wait so much, specially TikTok. I think TikTok
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: is the one app that people been sucked into just
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: this swiping that algorithm just feeds you shit, it's hard
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: to put your phone down. It's all about balance, man,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: you know. I think right now we're at the end
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: of the era going into a new era, you know
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying on so many different fronts, you know,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: from economically, socially, spiritually, energetically. You know, right now there
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: are things being set in place that's going to affect
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the next thirty forty years facts. So I think it's
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: really weird because, like, as a conscious person, I'm looking
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: at both sides. We're both very much so unaware as
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: we are aware of what's happening. Yeah, it's kind of
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: like every day you're giving the red pill with a
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: blue pill, and like some days you take the blue pill,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: some days you take the red pill. But at the
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: end of the day, it all comes back down to
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: survival because that's the two things that that are people
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: are ran by. I think we're gonna look at that
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: like survival and like now and be like that was
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: like a really crazy time where the world was changing
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: and like we kind of knew it, but we also
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: didn't really realize how much it was changing exactly. Kind
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: of like when the Internet first came out like ninety
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: six exactly. It's like kind of like where we are
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: right now exactly, and there's like so many different ways.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Like you're like, oh shit, the world's changing, and that
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: means there's ways to make money, but then there's also
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: ways to lose a lot of fucking money, because if
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: you don't know what the fuck you're doing in this
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: web three point zero, in this metaverse, you might fucking
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: end up. There's been so many scams and all kinds
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: of crazy on. It's a lot of stuff. Man. You
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: got to connect with people who are really passionate about
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: what they're doing and who really think about the long
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: term thing. But what I was trying to say is
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: that in general, it's just like right now is the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: time to invest in yourself the most. I feel like
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: that means making sure that you spend time out of
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: your day getting to know who you are, getting to
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: know what your strengths are, what your weaknesses are, maybe
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: some gifts that you haven't discovered, you know, because you
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: want to make sure that you are a well rounded person.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's unlimited. What you can
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: do is unlimited. So it's just a matter of making
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: sure you're a well rounded person, or you know yourself
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and you're not driven by the outside world too much.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: It's very hard because it's so easy. It's also very
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: hard to disconnect from like the ground seats yourself. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: for sure. Everyone's always just working, work and work and working.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: You know. I feel like it's hard to just disconnect
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: and decompress. Like but in order for you to actually,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know, for me, in order for me to
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: see what I'm actually doing, sometimes I gotta take a
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: step back and look at everything, like, okay, three months
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: from now, I got to look at the contacts, the relationships,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the people who I've invited into my I'm doing step back,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: How is that what? Because sometimes you could just be
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: moving and moving and moving, and then other things that
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: can be shifting your trajectory of where you started or
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: what your original vision. So sometimes you gotta step back
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: and look at the progress and give yourself time to
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: see the progress. Like all right, cool, Like we're still
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: on the track, you know what I'm saying. Like, I
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's just because it's so easy
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to just especially living out here, It's like you know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: la is it's always the grind and always. I ain't
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: say it on grind. You gotta hustle. You know, if
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: somebody tell you don't get no money, get away from them. Yeah,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: because we gotta survive for sure. But it's definitely like
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: living in La is like you're always on your toes here,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: if that makes sense. It's like, you know, it's like
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, it's like, Okay, I'm gonna go out
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: to eat. Well, shit, I'm in LA so I can't
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: just go out to eat. I gotta put something on.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I gotta you know what I'm saying. It's like there's
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: so much that goes into just I mean, I think
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: it's less. I feel like it was crazy like that
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: before the pandemic, like everything had to be But now
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: it's like I think people have relaxed a little bit
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: when it comes today ego in certain ways, and also
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: the pandemic checked a lot of people's a lot of
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: people were struggling. It's like, you know, yeah, got real,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: so you're yo, let me love you you say. Uh.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: We just had a an artist named Kyle on the
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: show recently, you know, super Duper Kyle. He had a
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: song I Spy Yeah yeah, so he uh he was
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: talking about how he has a song called I Spy
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: which is about to be diamond, right. He's like, he's like,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: that's a I think it's eight times platinum. He's like, uh,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: this song has changed my life financially. It's got me
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: in a place where, like, you know, yeah, it's so
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: it's so big that I could kind of do what
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I want now. That's that's a gift and a curse.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: But it's also like he's also the I Spy guy.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Now you're not You're not to let me love you guy,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: but let Me Love You is one of those songs
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: that is so massive, between the remix the original, it
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: is one of the most iconic R and B songs
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: of all fucking time. Yeah, what is the first part
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: of that for you? Because we know what the gift is.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I think the curst part of it is easy. It's just,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: you know, having that level of success again with another
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: record because I was so young when it happened, and
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: it's like, I haven't had another record that big, even
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: though I've had other hits right since that record, you know,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: And I think that's the curse. But I think every
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: artist has, well not every artist, Some artists got eighteen
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: twenty number ones. Right, But that's you know, if you're
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: so lucky to have that and to have that type
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: of system, Man, God bless you, that's amazing, you know.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: But I think that's the curse, man, Just like trying
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: to trying to beat it out, you know what I'm saying,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: trying to are you with another like obviously every time?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's the fucking your biggest record.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Are you tired of performing it? After all these years?
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like sometime I'm gonna get tired of performing it,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: And then when I perform it it feels like the
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: first time every time. It's but it's because of the fans, man,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: It's because of the people. It's because of them. It's
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: like when you're on stage and you see like it's
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a connection, bro, because you just records. They they they're
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: like they're like time in the flesh, bro. Like this
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: this is like, I feel like recorded sound is time
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: in the flesh. You literally trap some time into a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: sound and you're able to relive it over and over
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: and over and over again. So in some cases, yes,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: it could feel as if you're not moving forward. But
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: when you see a record transcend so many generations. And
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: you see, like I see tiktoks of like babies or
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: like toddlers singing let me love you. I'm just like
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Bro today. Yeah, of course, such a blessing man. It's
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: obviously the first record I'd ever heard of. Yours was
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Just a Friend, which sampled Bismarcky BISMARKI recently passed away
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Rest in Peace man. Yeah, as a young kid, like,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: what was it like, you know, connecting with Biz sampling
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: his I mean, did you know much about Biz before
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: he ended up cutting that record? Like, what was what
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: was he like as a dude? Shout out to Warren Campbell,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: my brother, hell lily man Biz. He really I feel
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: like anybody who meet him or feel like he liked
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: they uncle, Like he was very much so expressive, very thoughtful.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: He didn't hold his tongue, you know what I'm saying.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: If he saw something, he had always hit me to
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: check up on me, like even if we talk for years.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I see him out at an event, it was always love.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: When I was on tour last so at the Millennial
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Toy he came out at my bottom one show, Oh
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: do he surprised me and pulled up like, man, just
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: a good dude, good dude indeed, Yeah, good dude. All right,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: So we got more music coming this year, definitely more
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: music film stuff as well, you know a lot of
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: great Yeah. Well, I don't know if I'm gonna put
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: that out this year. Man, I'm really taking my time
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: with it, but it's definitely coming for sure. But tour,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: just more more sauce. Man, what's the tour? Talk about
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the tour? What what are you doing with the tour? Well,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: we're planning it, you know, we're planning it for like
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: probably later this year. It's it gonna be you and
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: like some other people hopefully. Yeah, that's the plan to
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: put a nice package together, like you know, that makes sense.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: So I just put it out there, like you know
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like tour, more music and
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: just more me man, more more Mario for the fans,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: for the people, like just you know, putting a stamp
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: on R and B where it need to be and
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: continue to do carry my carry my legacy on