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40. (Bloody) Mary in the Mirrors, Duendes in the Walls · Amigos, Afraid!

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Reporting live from my bedroom. I've had the time of my life.
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Featuring the vocal stylings of I.
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Never felt this way before. The one and only Jerry Acuna.
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And I swear this is true and I owe it all to the daily BJ.
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Welcome back guys. Welcome back, Happy Thursday I.
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Didn't think I was going to get beautifully serenaded.
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I've just, you know what? I've been in the in the singing
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mood. It was a good day today.
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Damn, I'm blushing and. It's only Thursday.
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We are one day away, depending on what time you listen, two
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days away from the weekend. What's the weekend?
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Cause the weekend party, like the weekend, you got me thinking
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we could be a thing. Yeah, I know.
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You know I got bumping. Big Time Rush, yeah.
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Wow, how did you know? It just came to me, damn it.
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Just that's actually pretty crazy today.
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Two different people, two different times, one in the
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morning, 1:00 in the afternoon. I sent a text to them and they
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were like, they sent a text literally like milliseconds
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right after it and they're like, wow, I was about to text you.
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Wow, you're on people's minds. I'm on people's minds and also
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I'm reading the future. Why?
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What did? What did you do?
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I'm a spiritual medium. OK, Teresa Caputo.
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A TikTok, I think I've showed you, there's this dude who goes
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up to random people, introduces himself, gets their name and
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he's like, I sent an evil spirits attached to you or, or
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whatever area they're at. And then he just continues to
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scream into the void and on his own time in the dark, calling
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the spirits. Hours after meeting this.
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Is hours after and he name drops a person saying leave, leave
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them alone they're just trying to live their life.
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And then he switches the POV to look in front of him and then he
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blows out a freaking smoke cloud, starts choking and like
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having a crazy cough attack 'cause he just took a fat ass
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RIP. And then he's like, there it is.
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He's like mid Cobb and he starts fighting it and he's like leave
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this person alone motherfucker. And that it's the funniest thing
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ever. If you need it, hit me up.
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I will send it to you. This guy makes my day every time
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he posts. I had to drop that.
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It's been a while since you sent me one.
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You showed me one in person the other day though.
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I've like that. Healed me.
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I've liked like three of them since Oh my God, I will send
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them to you every time. It's bad on me for not following
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this creative genius. What he's doing.
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Four people fighting those demons, No one else is doing it
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like it. No, no, people might look at it
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and be like haha that's so funny, it's a joke, but I think
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there's some truth to it. Speaking of fighting your
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demons, do you want to hear a funny story that happened to me
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today? No.
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Oh, just kidding. I thought that's what you're
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here for. We're here to gap and update
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each other. That's why we don't tell each
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other stories anymore. Well, I didn't say no the the
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listener said no. Oh, I thought you were going to
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say it was the spirit. We were about to fight him.
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We have to take a hit. Wait, let's take a hit.
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Sorry, Continue. Go ahead.
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This morning I I'm a granted I was a little later to work than
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normal. I did leave maybe 10 minutes
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past what I usually do life. So I'm rushing.
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OK, I get to work pretty early. I'm always at work early.
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I love to be early. Hate being late.
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You will never catch me being late to work unless it's out of
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my control. OK, yes.
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So I'm pressing the elevator button like get me up there, get
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in because it opens almost immediately.
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It's stops at every parking lot floor.
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And I'm like way up there. I'm like almost in the double
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digits of floors. OK.
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It fills up with people, slowly starts dwindling.
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Some people get off on the lobby, some people get off on
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like floors one and two. But for the longest time there
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was three of us, me and two girls.
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The door closes on like the third floor girl in the front
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farts where you could tell it was not expected.
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She did not do it on purpose, and the tension just was as
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palpable as the fart that I just heard.
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Of course, the girl in front of me who was not the not the
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farter. OK sidesteps.
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I'm already like way in the back.
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There's nowhere. You can't go anywhere.
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But not for four floors until the doors open.
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Oh. Man.
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We walk out on the same floor. Four floors of fart.
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Silence of like, oh. And then just hold breath.
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Yeah, I mean, I didn't smell anything, but to be that person,
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like, that's so embarrassing. I'm so sorry.
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It was better that we didn't say anything.
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Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Of course, nothing you can say is going to help the situation.
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Nope. Unless you just went up to it.
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But the person? Didn't.
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Yeah. Excuse me.
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Yeah. That's the most you could have
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said is just excuse me. I'm so sorry.
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Yeah. Because we were in a confined
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environment. You were fighting the inner
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demons of your bowels, of course, and you lost.
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You lost that battle, but I hope they didn't lose the war.
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I hope not. I didn't run into them again
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later today or later that day. Man, well, I mean in terms of
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like top three places, you don't want to just fart in public.
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An elevator with other people I think is up there.
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Yep, I was telling Alexa when she was leaving I was like,
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don't fart in the elevator. I told everyone the story of.
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Course you have to. It was hilarious.
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When does that happen? Once in a blue moon, I guess.
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At least it wasn't me. At least it wasn't you after
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having dairy. Absolutely.
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Oh my God no. We would have died there.
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Would find our corpses on on the floor.
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Yeah, for sure, for sure. Wow, that's crazy.
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I haven't heard a story like that in a long time or
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experienced that, like, in a long time like.
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Yeah. It's it's an adventure having a
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building with elevators. I've also developed a new pet
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peeve of people not waiting for you to leave the elevator before
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they try to get on. Oh OK, They just try to come in.
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You're like, I'm going out dude. Like fucking chill.
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If we are literally in the bottom floor basement and it
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opens up and you see someone connect the dots, I am exiting
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the elevator. I'm not just in there for fun.
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Yeah, and there's. Oh my God, sorry.
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It's it's been boiling. I'm sure there's like the people
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that are like, oh, like they're surprised that you're trying to
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come out like before they go in and they feel kind of offended
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or they look kind of offended. It's like no get like.
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Or they don't even move out of the way, they still go in while
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I'm like trying to get out. Yeah, you just got to shove them
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at that point. I don't condone violence, but
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you just got to let them know like that's.
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I'm a big boy. I'm gonna just keep on going.
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And if I brush your shoulder, I brush your shoulder.
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Why are you standing in front of the elevator as soon as it
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opens? I was going to say the same
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thing. I'm a big boy.
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Me making shoulder contact this is I can't help it.
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I'm a big dude like. It happens sometimes.
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It happens. Sorry, that was my tangent.
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Wow, that was the demons that I had experienced.
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They weren't mine, they were someone.
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Else they were they were floating for the.
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First time in a long time they weren't mine.
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That's crazy. That's good.
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Good story. Can I tell you a funny story?
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Yes. Over this, over this this past
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couple days I've been, you know, it's been resonating with me
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that I am a hard 28. Over the weekend I, for the
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third time in like the past two months, locked ourselves out of
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the house 'cause I'd left the keys inside the first one.
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Luckily I had a a very gracious friend who was willing to come
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bring me the spare you. Guys live within like 15 minutes
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of your friends, make sure they have a spare key.
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Please, please, you never know, especially when there's like 2
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back-to-back months where it's going to happen.
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You're going to forget your keys inside, you're going to need
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someone and all the doors are locked.
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But anyways, I, we were going to go out to get breakfast, I
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think, or get coffee or what we're going to do.
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And then I had this box where I had to put the keys on top of.
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So I'm like, OK, I can make sure that I'm holding the box where I
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can see the keys. I'm walking out, cool.
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Right at the edge of the door. It's like, no, we'll just leave
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the box here. We'll come back for you later.
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Cool. Awesome.
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Put the box down at the table, turn around, walk out, lock the
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door. Boom.
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You do have a bad. Habit of just locking your door
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before exiting. I I think it's just like a like
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a. It's a paranoia.
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Thing I understand like you lock to make sure it's locked.
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But also it's that paranoia, paranoia of like leaving the
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house. Like damn, did I lock the doors?
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Like no, I remember turning it, it's part of the routine.
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And then I just get all anxious 'cause I'm like, did I lock it
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though? Fuck, I don't remember.
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Anyways, get to the car, but it's not working.
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Touched my pocket, instantly New.
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Nope, I forgot that I left the keys on top of that box.
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OK, so this is where shit gets it hits the fan.
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I have a little patio. Luckily we left that back door
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open because, you know, let the burp the burp the house, we call
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it. Yeah.
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But now that you're here explaining it to the masses, he
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will not be doing. It anymore?
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No, no, unless I'm home. You can feel free to try to
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answer it and it won't end well for you.
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But I left the screen door open though the sliding door open.
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I'm like, I could jump this fence.
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So I'm like, fuck it, let's do it.
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Brian pulls up behind me with this phone recording.
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I'm like, God, now I'm nervous. Whatever, right?
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I do this the first try. I don't mess.
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I don't mess up the first time and I jump over.
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I'm just kidding. There was 2.
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I had to do it in two tries. First try.
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I don't I don't succeed. I didn't get enough momentum.
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I was also doing this in Boltas in my cowboy boots.
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Not the greatest, not optimal for noting and jumping.
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Yeah. Anyway, so failed the first
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time. Second time I'm like no, now I
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have like. There's a failure behind me.
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There's a failure behind me and there's six pairs of eyes
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looking at me and I'm like, I got to make this quick.
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People are going to call the cops.
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They're going to be like that man is jumping into that patio,
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whatever. So boom, I jump success.
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I use the momentum to get one, like push myself up on the fence
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and I use that same momentum to jump down.
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I jump over the fence, I land on my left foot and then I let the
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momentum fall. So I like, you know, like squat
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almost. And then I just do a little
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roll. Easy, smooth.
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I stand up, boom, perfect 10 scores from all the judges.
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I feel fine. I'm like, wow, I can't believe I
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did that. I feel so accomplished.
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I haven't jumped the fence like that in so long.
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Cool, grab my keys, lock the sliding door, walk out, lock the
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door. Cool.
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Holding the keys in my hand just so I can calmly walk out and not
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freak out anymore. Walk to the car, we leave, We
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drive about 40 minutes because there's some traffic.
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Yeah. I step out of the car and I'm
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like, oh, oh, my foot feels kind of sore right now.
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I'm like, Oh well, the impact of it makes sense.
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You know, I'm wearing cowboy, cowboy boots.
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They got a little heel. Got a little heel, I'm like OK
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it normal. I think that's pretty normal.
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Within a span of 5 minutes it goes from like soreness to just
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I can't put any weight on my foot and what are we doing?
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We're playing laser. Tag, we're about to play laser
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tag. Dulce did say, Are you sure you
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want to run in those? And I'm like, yeah, I'll be
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fine. They're comfortable.
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They're broken in, they're leather.
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They are comfortable. But now I have a fucking
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shooting pain in my left foot that every time I step I'm like,
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what's what's what's limping limping from?
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We were there for what maybe like an hour and a half?
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Two hours. Shout out to.
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Like an eternity. Shout out to Melissa.
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Happy birthday. It was so fun.
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Within that span of an hour or two it went from like 5 out of
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10 pain to like 7 out of 10 pain.
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We walked out of there and I had just ran for the past like hour
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cause laser tag is so fun guys like go with your friends.
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That shit is so cool. Yeah, Melissa popped off with
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that idea. I want to do that regularly.
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Yeah, that was so fun. Yeah.
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And we'll, we'll come back to that, put a pin in that we I'm
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running, I'm running, I'm running.
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We get to our next destination. At this point, it's later in the
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night. My foot, I, I drove from point A
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to point B again. I've had like maybe like 15
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minutes of rest. My foot gets cold 'cause I'm not
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running anymore. I step out of the car. 9.5 out
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of 10 pain. No, I didn't know it was that.
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Bad. And I'm not there.
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Dude. I cannot put any weight.
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I can't bear any weight on my left foot.
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I'm thinking now, did I fucking like fracture something?
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Did I break something? And then it hits me, I'm fucking
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28 now. Like, like, I can't be jumping
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fences like that. Welcome to the club of your late
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20s. So I'm still a little bit, you
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know, I, I still feel the, the residue of the, of the pain here
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and there. I can walk normal.
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I'm not limping anymore, but I, it's a reminder.
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It's still there, just mocking me.
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That's my story, guys. In the same vein, the following
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day, the day after, we had an amazing time Saturday
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celebrating Melissa's birthday. Lazy tag was so fun.
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We went to a. Brewery Brewery Bar Yeah.
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Ish. Yeah.
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They had really cool pinball games.
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So fun. There was AD and D1. 10 out of
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10 had a fantastic time. The next day.
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I have a mission. It is my journey to do all of my
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laundry everywhere, all at once. Yeah, I have so much clothes, so
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many clothes. How many loads?
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I did three there and did not finish OK.
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I still had to do 2 OK later that night because we did have
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plans to go see Gloria's puppy. But in the midst of me going to
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a laundromat to try and get this done because I can't feasibly
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doing it do it in my apartment complex that has like 1 laundry
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machine. Yeah.
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I've never been to a laundromat. I've never operated a
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laundromat. I don't know how it works.
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I'm asking so many questions. I see the the metal racks on
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wheels and I'm like, let me go take this to my car.
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Yeah, la, la, la, la, la. I'm so in my head, like
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stressing about, OK, I need to figure out how to do this.
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I hope I brought everything I need, like my detergent, my
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dryer sheets, that I walk past my car and I'm like, oh, fuck.
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OK, turn around. I parked right on a speed bump.
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So when I turn around and go back over the speed bump, the
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cart lifts like one wheel goes off the ground and those things
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are heavy. So then it starts completely
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leaning over that. It trips me up on my ankle.
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I trip, there's a couple getting in the car right next to me, and
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I'm like, no, they're watching this happen and they're not
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going to help me because there's no stopping it.
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Yeah, no, it's me in gravity. Yep.
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On A11V1. Yeah, I freaking won because I
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caught myself. But as I did, the entire cart
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lands on my shin. Fuck.
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It looks better now. It does.
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I had a huge bump. He did.
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He had to I. Had to centre myself.
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I'm like leaning against my truck or the trunk of my car
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because I'm thinking, did I just shatter my shin?
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Yeah, because I just have it dangling there because I'm
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scared to like step on the floor because it hurts.
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Yeah, yeah. You know that feeling when the
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the tears are like about to come like you know if.
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I they're boiling. They're Yeah.
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If I commit to the pain, I'm gonna cry.
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So I did it. Yeah.
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I took a deep breath, stepped, and it was fine.
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And I said period. OK, we're loading this up and
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we're washing this laundry. So we were both a little worse
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for wear this weekend. Yeah, yeah, no.
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And, and real quick, I remember hitting my shin like on the
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playground, like the stairs, and it's a sharp pain and you're
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like, fuck you like pause for a second because it's like that
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numbing pain where you just like, I can't put any weight on
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it. I can't run like I need to stop.
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And most of the time you get that teary eyed, start crying,
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'cause that shit hurts. Getting hitting your shin as an
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adult. Yeah, Doll that it was so
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inflamed, guys, there was like a ball.
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It was like. It was, well, a gigantic.
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It was like 2 kneecaps like one at his knee one in between like
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in the middle of vision like it was wild.
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I didn't even notice it until I got to Gloria's and I'm like
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laying there and I'm like hey guys, look, I fell and I looked
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down and I see. The freaking bump bulge.
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It's just like a little red right now, yeah.
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It's not swollen or anything though.
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No it still hurts though. Like oh pretty bad if I press on
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it like I. Feel it.
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Let me see. Feel the.
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No, you could feel it. Oh yeah, there's still some
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swelling, but yeah, dude, I mean, I'm a hard 28, you're a
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hard 37. Fuck you.
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We need to be careful within. A hot and sexy 29 bitch 29 four
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now at least. 4 now. I would like to welcome Melissa
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to She's going to yell at me. Nevermind, nevermind.
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I was so close. Guys, do it.
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Do it. Change of topics.
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Change of topics. We are here with some stories.
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Yeah, I went to the president of Disney Channel.
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I said I want to make history. Oh my God.
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I'm just kidding. I went up to Jerry and I said,
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Jerry, I have an idea. You should go first this week.
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And I said that's a terrible idea and I shut it down.
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I sent him on his way. No pay, no sick time, nothing.
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I I did buy him a cookie. Oh, he did thank you because he
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was so late today. I was, but it's, it's it's fine
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because it's Thursday and this is all recorded live.
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Yeah, dude. So today I before we get into it
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real quick, I do want to shout out the few people that reached
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out to me regarding the SCP episode.
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They found it very interesting. You know who you are.
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But I, yeah, I had, I had fun. It was something new.
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I would like to revisit that. And then people that learned
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about it as well, they, they thought it was really
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fascinating and very like intricate.
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It's not something you could just listen to like in the
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background. You really have to listen to it
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because there's so many technical things, like the files
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are legit. They, they read legit.
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So totally understandable. It was a little bit more heavy
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in terms of the material, but super fun, super creative
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listening comprehension. Yeah, Yeah.
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You needed some listening comprehension skills.
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Good feedback. But today I wanted to talk about
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a real legend in my opinion that is still found throughout many
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parts of the world, specifically Mexico.
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I have I think I've dealt with some of these.
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My first question to you is, have you ever like lost anything
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randomly or like have you ever felt like things were
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disappearing or just little like Travis Suitas little little
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things happening? In like the 5th grade I lost my
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entire collection of Pokémon cards that were in a little tin.
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Hmm. Did anyone else know where they
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were? My brother but I asked him about
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it recently like in the last like 2 weeks and he's like I
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have no idea what you're talking about.
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Yep. That's a good lie.
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That's a good lie. I say.
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We we bring your brother to the stand.
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We interrogate him. Because I've lost many Pokémon
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cards and it'd be the closest ones to you.
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Yeah. It was my beautiful mix of just
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Pokémon and Yu-gi-oh cards. I'll mix them one.
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Amazing. No, I'm just kidding.
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I kid. But yeah, like that where you're
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just like, dude, I had them right here.
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There's no reason why they disappeared.
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Travisuras that happened here and there.
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I researched about duendes or in the Nawadal term, chaneques.
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Have you ever heard that word chaneques?
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Neither have I found. This is the first time I've
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always known them as like duendes or like Elvis little
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creatures. But once again, in many parts of
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Mexico, they can be referred to as chaneques in Nawadal or
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Aluxes, which is Mayan. So they come from pre Hispanic
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indigenous mythology specific regions of Veracruz and southern
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Mexico, deeply connected to older belief systems where
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nature wasn't just a pretty scenery, it was alive, owned and
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protected. So I mean, I love that.
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I mean, once again, I play a druid in D&D that relates to all
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aspects of my life. But I love that there is some
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sort of like enforcers of nature and protectors of nature.
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I think that can come in many different forms.
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But I, I love that these chanekas are seen as that, you
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know, one form of protection to nature.
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I see your face, your your mind. Trying to figure out how they
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got connected to robbery. OK, no, but there's more.
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There's more to it, but this is just like, this is the part
20:01
where I'm like, whoa, this is pretty cool.
20:03
I have more respect for them. I've never like had any like
20:08
hate or animosity towards the win this, whatever they may be.
20:14
But this is like, OK, Ko, I respect that.
20:16
I love that. Like, I'm glad.
20:17
You've earned my respect today, that day.
20:20
So chanek is our belief to guard specific natural spaces, not
20:24
just forests in general, but individual rivers, caves, and
20:27
even abandoned areas. It's interesting because water
20:31
is a lot in a lot of cultures is seen as a spiritual boundary, a
20:35
place between worlds. If you think nature has security
20:40
guards, if we're looking at these little things as security
20:42
guards, these. Little tiny bouncers.
20:43
Yeah, little tiny bouncers. Do you think you'd be on the
20:45
allowed list? Yeah, I love nature.
20:49
I'm not in it all the time, but I will not defile any kind of
20:53
natural environment that's root. It is leave, especially
20:56
littering. Leave no trace.
20:58
Exactly. OK, so let's talk about their
21:00
appearance. This is This part's a little
21:03
inconsistent from the sources that I've read, but some
21:05
descriptions say they look like toddlers with a 65 year old
21:09
face, they have a dwarfish features, or they can even be
21:15
described as described as shadowy humanoids.
21:18
Some babies literally just look like that though.
21:21
Literally look like old like 2 going on 75.
21:26
Others say they can shape shift or distort how you perceive them
21:30
so you might not even know you saw one.
21:32
Have you ever had like that memory of like I remember seeing
21:35
this like person who for some reason I thought I recognized
21:39
but I just overlooked and I'm just carried on with my life.
21:42
Family that you're visiting? And they like, look familiar,
21:45
like, oh, I've seen you before. Yeah, maybe.
21:48
No, no. I.
21:49
Don't really pay attention. OK.
21:50
You're just like, yeah, yeah, OK, nice.
21:53
So chanekes are strongly tied to the concept of the soul or
21:57
spirit essence. In some traditions, humans are
22:00
believed to have multiple spiritual components, and
22:03
chanekes can steal one of them. Whoa.
22:06
Sometimes it's it's not specifically to kill you, but or
22:09
attack you, but just to take a piece of you.
22:12
Some people experience fatigue, confusion, personality changes,
22:17
illness with no clear cause. Just report having that like
22:21
weird feeling of just something's missing.
22:24
Another question for you. OK, what do you think is worse?
22:28
Getting your card information stolen?
22:30
Oh my God. Or your soul partially
22:32
withdrawn. You know, that's a soft spot.
22:35
I had fraud on my Apple Wallet not that long ago.
22:40
So did I Oh yeah, not not my Apple Wallet, but that's the
22:43
one. It's not my soul, it's just so.
22:45
Tedious. Like I'm, I'm the one having to
22:47
go through this, I'm the one being affected, but I have to be
22:49
the one to jump over all these hurdles to fix it and make sure
22:53
that my information doesn't keep getting stolen.
22:55
I don't know how to get my soul back.
22:56
Who do I call? We'll get to that.
23:00
So there's rituals to get your soul.
23:02
Back. Oh my God.
23:03
Yeah, Thank you. I didn't need to know that.
23:06
In other words, guranderos, traditional healers or healers.
23:09
There needs to be a topic in the future.
23:10
Yes, I'm I'll talk a little bit about it today.
23:13
These people perform ceremonies to call your spirit back from
23:16
the chaneques. Guranderos can treat soul loss
23:19
from a chaneke using a susto or fright ritual designed to
23:23
retrieve the spirit from the location of the fright.
23:26
The ritual involves limpias, cleansings with herbs, eggs,
23:30
incense to recenter energy. They use prayers and often call
23:35
the person's name while returning from the place of the
23:38
encounter. Chanikas are not always evil.
23:42
They're just really petty. I've once again I can confirm
23:45
this. Yeah, checks out.
23:46
I've experienced this so many times throughout my life.
23:49
We joke, you know, like, oh, the one that you know, like, oh,
23:51
where's this? Like, damn, I just had it.
23:53
The one that you know, it. It happens.
23:55
Oh my God. Yeah.
23:56
I never see it as like malicious or once again with like, I'll
23:59
intent, but it's just like, damn.
24:00
Like it's just so funny how often it it occurs.
24:04
One of the first things that comes to mind is most recent,
24:07
Not most recently, but not too long ago, I lost AD twenty
24:10
necklace that I had got on Etsy and I put the first D20, which
24:15
I've talked about on this episode that killed my first
24:17
character rolling 2 natural ones, which is insane.
24:21
So I had that necklace. I use it like for maybe a couple
24:25
months, disappeared, gone. Don't know where it went.
24:29
I went to Arizona with it, came back, still had it.
24:31
Went to San Diego with it, came back, still had it like it just
24:34
it travelled with me everywhere that I went disappeared.
24:38
So that I think that's one of them that I think whether it was
24:43
of the one there or something new, how much it meant to me
24:45
that it just they're like, Yep, this is my now.
24:47
Damn, that's spiteful. So once again, I've experienced
24:51
this a lot in my life. No, I'm not forgetful.
24:54
Yes I am. I'm just trying to justify my
24:57
forgetfulness with the supernatural excuse and
25:00
experience. It does it.
25:02
It really does excuse. Your conscience a little.
25:04
A little bit Some of the things that you can experience is they
25:07
hide your belongings, they make you hear things that aren't
25:10
there, mimic voices and lead you deeper into the wilderness.
25:14
I. Don't.
25:15
I don't like the mimic voices. There is a story from
25:18
folklore.usc.edu talking about it.
25:22
An experience The informant heard this story from his
25:25
grandfather four years ago. The informant stated that
25:28
Dwendes exists where his grandfather is from because he
25:31
lives in a more Pueblo area in Veracruz, Mexico.
25:35
On a regular day, his grandfather headed to the
25:37
Terenos Terenos large plots of land to check on the cattle to
25:41
make sure they were doing well. The informant stated that in
25:45
order to get this to the specific plot of land, you need
25:48
to go through other people's lands, but that throughout his
25:51
grandfather's years he had built a mental map of how to get to
25:54
this to his plot of land. It was later in the day at 4:00
25:58
PM, and suddenly his grandfather felt like he was walking in
26:01
circles and circles. The next day he woke up in a
26:05
small passing river, as if he had been carried and placed
26:09
there, not drowning or anything, but just there.
26:12
In the water. Yeah, the informant stated that
26:15
dwendes are kinds of spirits, a sort of energy that guide you
26:18
away from where you are going, luring you in to kill you.
26:23
It's in some context that he provided is his grandfather said
26:26
that when he explained what happened to his family in the
26:29
Pueblo, they all told him that he had, that it had been
26:32
dwendes. The legend is only told in the
26:35
town if it happens to someone. The informant does believe his
26:38
grandfather because it's interesting, but perhaps it is
26:43
just some spirit leading you astray.
26:45
Or maybe he did something to anger the spirit while on his
26:49
walk. Damn.
26:50
So if you were to hear someone calling your name in the woods,
26:54
would you respond? Oh, if I'm alone?
26:57
No, absolutely not. I'm I'm not running into a a
27:03
familiar face in the freaking woods.
27:04
OK, that does not happen. Say you're in Mexico, some
27:08
whatever part of Mexico your your family's from, and you hear
27:11
your mom's name calling you from the forest, would you go?
27:15
You just made it so much harder to say no.
27:20
I don't know. A part of me is curious to want
27:24
to know like what is it? Because I think I would know.
27:27
It's not my mom. I have no business being in a My
27:29
mom has no business being in the freaking.
27:31
Jungle. I was going to say the exact
27:33
same thing. But I'd be like, wait, so who's
27:36
throwing their voice over there? That's doing a really good
27:38
impression on my mom. You're like, you should get into
27:40
voice acting. I got a gig for you.
27:42
You want to be on the podcast? You're like, do you want to be?
27:44
You want to portray my mom in a, in a feature film, in a biopic?
27:49
Speak into the Pike, please. I think I would.
27:51
I'd say the same. I think my reasoning would be
27:52
like one, my mom wouldn't be in in the middle of the forest
27:56
because yes, she likes to explore, but I don't think she's
28:00
like down to go into the forest 2 I feel like they would ask
28:04
like, hey, I'm going to go and can you come or like something,
28:06
you know, not just be there alone or something.
28:08
Yeah. So I'd be like, yeah, nice try,
28:10
So. You know what would get me
28:12
though? What?
28:14
Someone yelling help? Oh my God, it's like those
28:17
videos of like the skinwalkers where they're like someone
28:19
saying help in like a random field.
28:22
And that wouldn't make me wanna. Yeah, be like damn, I should go
28:26
I. Don't think it would get me in a
28:29
field because you can see in a field.
28:31
True. But if I was in a very like
28:33
heavily wooded place, I don't know.
28:36
I watch too much true crime and listen to podcasts that I'd I'd
28:40
be like ring ring ring, alarm bells, red flags, I have to call
28:43
the police. Yep, trust your gut.
28:45
That's what I'll always say that so.
28:48
So yeah, pretty crazy, right? Chanikas don't just punish
28:51
random people. They usually target those who
28:53
disrespect nature, act arrogantly or ignore warnings.
28:57
We're good. Yeah, so we're good.
28:59
So some stories doubled as more lessons.
29:02
Folklore is basically just saying respect the land or the
29:04
land will humble you, which is very true on many aspects.
29:08
Nature is not tameable. We do not tame any aspect of
29:11
nature. So my final question for you, if
29:14
someone dropped you in the middle of a forest in Veracruz,
29:18
how long before you accidentally offend a chaneke?
29:26
I feel like I could go a pretty long while.
29:29
OK, because one, I have no survival instinct, so I'll
29:32
probably just be wandering. Just I'll be.
29:34
Walking just not clueless but just like no thoughts.
29:39
No, just walking like, Oh my God, that's a pretty plant.
29:42
Oh, that's another pretty plant. It's.
29:44
And if I hear water, you always go to water.
29:46
That's my only survival instinct.
29:48
That's true. And that's it, Yeah.
29:50
And if you think about it too, like a forest in Veracruz, that
29:53
water is probably natural with spring water, like it's not or
29:55
rainwater, but it's it rains in many parts of Mexico a lot, so
29:59
it'll be clean to drink. Yeah, and what if I end up in
30:02
Cabo? There you go, just.
30:03
That's where the one is leading me.
30:05
It's like this, Brian. Like you don't need to be in
30:07
Veracruz. I'm taking you to Cabo.
30:08
We're going to Cabo, we're going to part of a yarda.
30:11
So I've always known him as duendes.
30:13
Cha nekis is a term that I've learned about today, but I
30:17
thought it was very interesting. I thought some of the nature
30:20
aspect of it just really tied it into like, wow, I, I love that.
30:23
It's pretty cool. I think my duende that's been
30:27
following us is pretty chill, although he has a lot of my
30:29
stuff, but I respect him, especially like now I think I'm
30:33
going to set a little druid garden for him to just kind of
30:36
chill in so you can feel at home.
30:38
But that's my boy. Poor girl.
30:43
I think you should mark that as AD and D character for the
30:46
future. I mean the fact that I was a
30:47
gnome in at the R.E.M. Fair.
30:49
And then the fact that I've played a gnome for a one shot,
30:53
I've had a lot of fun with those characters.
30:54
Now you need to combine it. Druid Gnome.
30:56
Druid Gnome would be OK. There it is, guy.
30:58
That's my next D&D character, a druid gnome.
31:02
That'd be so fun. Yeah.
31:05
And druid, Gnome. And then you have a subclass of
31:09
a rogue so you can steal things that's.
31:13
Great multiclass, dude. That'd be pretty good.
31:16
Oh, I didn't want to show you this picture when I was reading
31:19
about the Kuranderos. I will.
31:22
It was just like, you know, like the souls, the different, like.
31:25
Wow, they're bringing the souls back after being stolen.
31:27
Yeah, that's pretty cool, right? Yeah, that's so trippy.
31:30
A little blurry, but I mean I like the where like that light's
31:34
coming from the chest, you know, from where your heart is or
31:37
where your soul is or whatever the.
31:39
Damn, I wonder if I've had a part of my soul stolen and I
31:42
need a Olympia. I feel like if they've tried,
31:46
they haven't succeeded. I'd.
31:47
Rather that you take some of my lung has instead.
31:50
Take take some of my body in front.
31:51
Of me please the back roll just. Can you send it to my ass and
31:57
the thighs make? It go a little lower.
32:00
That was so interesting friend. I had no idea about the whole
32:03
nature sphere aspect of Blendez. I thought they were just little
32:06
gremlins like the Yule Lads that come and just steal your things.
32:09
Yep, they're just gnomes, but from a different part of the
32:12
world. I like that.
32:13
Yeah, I, I will say like, I think no matter what I'm reading
32:16
about, if there's any ties to Mexico, for some reason it's
32:19
like five times as scarier because those videos and just
32:23
like the the stuff that I grew up seeing it just it's so much
32:26
scarier when it's in Spanish. So I'm.
32:28
Gonna say things in Spanish are they carry more weight?
32:31
They do. They do.
32:33
Thank you, Jerry. I appreciate you sharing that.
32:35
Yeah, I also went into a little rabbit hole of a a story a lot
32:44
of people might be familiar with from their youth.
32:47
OK. The game specifically.
32:50
I want to play a game. We all know how to play in the
32:54
dead of night. You walk into the bathroom and
32:56
face the mirror. Next you turn off the lights.
33:00
Finally staring at your reflection in the dark, you
33:03
recite the same 2 words three times.
33:06
Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary.
33:13
Then you wait. You should be greeted by a
33:17
horrific figure of a woman in the mirror.
33:20
It's a game that instills fear even before you start.
33:22
The anxiety seeps in as soon as the murmurs begin about who
33:26
would be the unlucky person to perform the ritual.
33:29
Whoever manages to do the ritual and survive is deemed the
33:32
bravest of the group. Wow.
33:34
Have you ever played the Bloody Mary game?
33:37
Have you ever witnessed A bloodied woman staring back at
33:39
you over your shoulder? I never have, and honestly, it's
33:43
because I'm a little too scared to try.
33:45
OK, I could do it here now, in front of you with the lights on.
33:48
Yeah, because I have protection. You'll you'll fuck her up.
33:51
Yeah, yeah, for sure like you. And I I know that for sure.
33:54
Have you ever tried it? Yeah, I have second or third
33:57
grade. My elementary school, there was
33:59
a specific bathroom supposedly was a haunted one, but that's
34:03
when I first learned about the Bloody Mary game.
34:05
And I did try it after school program.
34:07
And it was like on one of the days that it was early darkness.
34:09
So it was even scarier because the lights were already kind of
34:12
like super light and the ones in the bathrooms like super dim.
34:16
So pretty great. It it was also one of those
34:19
times where you just say and then you run out, so.
34:21
Absolutely. You don't wait.
34:22
There's no waiting. No, you're so brave.
34:24
I feel like I didn't hear about it at school.
34:27
I mostly heard about it at like family parties with like the the
34:32
freaking demos and stuff like. Oh yeah.
34:34
Have you ever played Bloody Mary?
34:37
I'm so surprised you did it at school.
34:39
I feel like that's kind of a vibe, but when are you able to
34:42
just have a bathroom to yourself in public school and just be
34:45
able to turn off the lights? Exactly.
34:47
Do you remember what the rules were?
34:50
Lights. I I, I don't remember if it was
34:52
like you, you flick the lights three times or something.
34:54
Yeah, everyone has a different. Way of playing.
34:57
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking change every every
35:00
couple years. But what I remember is you'd
35:02
like flick the lights three times and then you turn them off
35:05
and then you go in front of the mirror and then you say it three
35:08
times and then I think that's it.
35:11
I've only ever known the most basic simle version of You go
35:13
in, you turn off the lights and you just say it.
35:16
OK. But I've heard other people say
35:17
you have to flush the toilet, you have to have the sink
35:19
running. You gotta.
35:22
Some aspect of water for some. Reason to your bathroom by
35:25
flushing the toilet. She'd be like hey, you have good
35:27
water pressure. Nice.
35:28
You got to spray the the Glade, the air freshener.
35:30
She's not going to come in if it smells bad.
35:32
And she's not coming if it's Cinnamon Apple.
35:34
She fucking. She hates cinnamon apple.
35:36
She loves linen. Linen.
35:38
Yeah, exactly. Fresh linen.
35:39
It smells like that Breeze. Ocean Breeze.
35:41
Absolutely Hawaiian mist. Yeah, anything that's like
35:45
citrusy, she's going to. Show up?
35:46
Absolutely. She loves it.
35:47
So where does this game come from?
35:50
The version we know today can be traced back to a mirror
35:53
divination rituals that date back centuries.
35:56
Shit, long before it became asleep over Dare, people were
35:59
already using mirrors as a way to try and glimpse the future.
36:02
Instead of summoning a ghost, the goal was to usually see a
36:06
future spouse. Oh, OK.
36:09
A version of the ritual appears in a 1786 poem by Robert Burns
36:12
titled Halloween. A footnote to the poem describes
36:15
how a person would look into a mirror, often by candlelight,
36:18
hoping to see the face of the person they would eventually
36:21
marry. Many hopefuls, usually young
36:23
women, would gladly play along, anticipating the face of a
36:27
handsome man smiling back at them.
36:29
However, that was not always the case.
36:32
If someone was destined to be unmarried, instead of seeing
36:35
their future partner in the reflection, they would see the
36:37
Grim Reaper. What?
36:40
By the Victorian era, these mirror rituals had become more
36:43
popular, especially as night time games and seasonal
36:46
traditions. Some versions involved holding a
36:49
candle when walking towards a mirror, others included combing
36:51
your hair in the mirror at midnight.
36:54
Like specifically at midnight. The goal stayed mostly the same.
36:57
You were trying to see someone appear behind you in the
36:59
reflection. Usually a future husband, but
37:01
not always. The Grim Reaper making an
37:05
appearance. Imagine that's your future
37:06
husband. He's.
37:07
Bored. He's like, I'm just gonna fuck
37:08
with him. Bam boom, he he, he's doing a
37:11
cameo. Hey, that's $5.
37:14
Hey, yeah. Per minute.
37:15
Per minute for sure. That's my appearance fee.
37:21
There was also a superstition tied to mirrors that lasted
37:23
through the 19th century. If a person stared into one for
37:26
too long, something else would appear.
37:29
In some tellings, it was the devil.
37:30
Oh shit. In others, it was a distorted
37:33
version of your own reflection. It's easy to see how these fears
37:36
would eventually cross paths and become a ritual of itself.
37:39
That's the thing though, I did not go into a research into it,
37:43
but there is, I think, a scientific term that when you
37:46
stare at yourself in the mirror for too long, you start like,
37:49
things start swirling, moving around, OK, your conscience or
37:52
something does something real weird.
37:54
So maybe that plays a part of it and I should have done more
37:56
research, but I didn't. Go ask the mirror, they'll tell
38:00
you. Over time, the purpose of the
38:02
ritual shifted. Instead of predicting marriage,
38:05
it became about summoning something.
38:07
The instructions got simpler, but the setting stayed the same.
38:10
A dark room, a mirror, and a repeated name.
38:15
When you first heard of Bloody Mary, did anyone give you a
38:18
reason as to why it would work? No, right.
38:21
Never. No.
38:21
They're just like, oh, if you do this, this happens.
38:23
Yeah. Do you just say the name and she
38:25
appears? Yeah.
38:26
I had personally never heard of the marriage portion before
38:29
doing this research. The first written anecdotes of
38:34
Bloody Mary were published in the late 1970s.
38:36
Folklore researcher Janet Langlois published a research
38:39
paper on the subject in 1978. Her research stated that before
38:44
being written down, the story of Bloody Mary in its modern form
38:47
circulated in post World War 2 America.
38:50
It's spread informally, mostly through children and teenagers.
38:53
Sleepover summer camps and schoolyards help pass the story
38:56
along. Perfect example.
38:58
You heard about it at school? Yep, I would hear about it late
39:01
at night at parties. Wow.
39:03
The most common example of the folk tale centers around a
39:05
spirit named Mary. The Mary in question could refer
39:09
to a number of women, the two most popular being Mary, Queen
39:12
of Scots or Queen Mary the First of England and Ireland.
39:16
Oh, OK. OK, a little historical
39:19
background. OK.
39:21
Go for it. Mary the First was the first
39:22
queen to rule England in her own right.
39:24
She took the throne in 1553 after a messy succession crisis
39:28
and immediately set out to reverse England's shift towards
39:31
Protestantism. As a devout Catholic, she
39:34
believed the country had strayed too far from the Church.
39:38
She began restoring Catholic practices and targeting those
39:40
who refused to convert. Over the next five years, Mary
39:44
authorized the execution of hundreds of Protestants.
39:48
Many were burned at the stake for heresy, a punishment meant
39:51
to be both public and intimidating.
39:53
These executions are widely reported and quickly shaped how
39:56
people viewed her rule. According to Encyclopedia
39:59
Britannica, roughly 300 Protestants were executed during
40:02
her reign. Damn.
40:03
Mess of H. That's where the nickname came
40:06
from. Protestant writers and political
40:08
opponents began referring to her as Bloody Mary.
40:11
Oh shit. Using the executions as proof of
40:14
her cruelty, The name stuck, and over time it drifted away from
40:18
politics and into full court. If not Queen Mary the first.
40:23
Other versions describe Bloody Mary as the victim of a violent
40:25
act. Some say she was a woman burned
40:28
for being a witch. Others describe a student
40:30
murdered by her teachers. Another version portrays her as
40:33
a grieving mother whose children were killed.
40:36
Does that. Sound like Yorona.
40:38
Exactly from Scotland. It's the white version, it's the
40:42
gentrified. She's from Scotland.
40:44
Oh, La Yorona, how she appeared in Mexico, who knows the the the
40:47
gnomes letter there. There you go.
40:49
Absolutely. These stories don't agree on who
40:52
she was, but they share the same idea.
40:55
A woman tied to violence appearing in a mirror when
40:57
summoned. Did you have a specific picture
41:01
of her when you went in there? Ready to say the name three
41:04
times? No, but I feel like there was
41:07
images that circulated like of like art of a just a like a
41:11
ghostly bloody girl in white old for sure, but I mean nothing
41:17
like, you know, Queen Mary and like her Queen, you know, attire
41:22
or anything. I did not picture an older lady
41:24
in the crown, not at all. No, that is really cool, though.
41:27
I mean, once again, the separation of church and
41:29
statewide is so important. And because religious
41:31
persecution like that. Yeah, true.
41:33
You know, say it louder. But the Scottish one, I mean,
41:37
that's cool. Yeah.
41:37
It's so it's so similar to the Urana.
41:39
So once again, it's like, well, what did that one look like?
41:43
Did she have kids and was she looking for Wow?
41:47
Yeah. No, I would just imagine it's
41:49
just like a bloody, like raggedy bloody.
41:54
Yeah. Just I don't know.
41:55
I think my head there was 2 versions.
41:58
There was one I thought of at the time, which if for some
42:01
reason I thought the The Grudge, but not specifically the The
42:06
Grudge movie, but the parody of Scary Movie where she's coming
42:12
out of the TV and she's soaking wet.
42:14
That's who would I envision. OK of Bloody Mary.
42:16
Was she bloody? No, she was just wet.
42:18
She was. Just wet, but I mean make that
42:20
make that red and. Looking at it now, I did picture
42:23
a more like, I wouldn't say young, I never pictured her to
42:27
be young, but just like a very scary lady covered in blood.
42:32
Did you ever play Day by Daylight?
42:34
Yes. Do you remember the banshee?
42:38
Very similar vibes to the Gray. Yeah.
42:40
Yeah, her hair was like whipping back and forth and she kind of
42:43
looked like a mummy chasing you with really skinny bodies.
42:46
Body was tea. She was cinched.
42:48
She absolutely was cinched with those little, little bands.
42:52
But that's who I envision now. Oh my God, it was McLaren.
42:56
No, it was. It was Alexander McQueen.
42:58
There you go, McQueen. Now the ritual exists as a
43:01
common slumber party game. It's story is constantly retold,
43:05
especially around Halloween. The game involves participants
43:08
entering a dark bathroom and saying Bloody Mary three times.
43:11
After the third time, a bloodied woman is supposed to appear in
43:13
the mirror and do something horrific to the person who
43:15
summoned her. Have you ever tried it?
43:18
Or were you like me and decided it was absolutely not worth the
43:22
risk just in case? Trust your gut.
43:26
Welcome back to the Daily BJ. We're gonna save Bloody Mary
43:29
into the mirror three times. No, absolutely not.
43:32
I would quit the podcast. Jerry lights on, nothing to
43:38
throw at you. No, my rainbow flag.
43:40
My yeah, just. Gay.
43:43
You're gay. Now you're gay.
43:47
It is gay. It is gay.
43:52
The rule of threes, I want to know, I want to do more research
43:55
on that because for whatever reason, it's always like there's
43:58
always a sequence of threes that summons that, like, click your
44:01
heels through. Yeah, it's a ritual of some
44:03
sort. Like why 3 you know?
44:06
I think maybe because 2 is a it's even.
44:09
Because 789. If there's two of us, we can
44:13
separate one and one, okay, it's a nice pairing.
44:15
But when there's a third that's just, it's just weird.
44:19
To some people, true. You know, there's big population
44:23
out there that. I love the third.
44:25
I supported. I supported.
44:28
But yeah, yeah, I wonder why, like, is it?
44:30
Is it the imbalance of what you just said?
44:32
Is it? I think that's it.
44:34
It's the imbalance. You said it beautifully because
44:37
it can either go one way or the other.
44:38
Yeah. You're tipping the scale in One
44:40
Direction. And are you tipping the scale of
44:43
like from the light living to the dead, making that
44:46
connection, that bridge? I don't know.
44:49
It's interesting, right? Maybe the the visual of threes
44:51
is also interesting because it could only ever be some sort of
44:54
like triangle. That too, and we all know
44:58
Illuminati. Lead back to Illuminati Yeah
45:04
interesting. But that's so cool, Brian, like
45:06
I, I, I didn't know it was tied to the Scottish and Queen Mary.
45:11
That's. Also just theory people are
45:12
trying to say like OK well her name was called Bloody Mary why
45:16
is this game now called? Bloody Mary also like the whole
45:19
Tinder thing at the beginning, like it was used to find suitors
45:22
and absolutely that's so cool like they just.
45:25
It all goes back to just paganism.
45:28
I don't know why paganism got so left behind in modern culture.
45:33
Society, human society, went so many centuries with these are
45:36
our beliefs, these are our practices to very quickly be.
45:41
White. Sidelined white for other
45:45
establishments of religion, yet they're still they're still
45:49
sprinkled into just folklore of of the modern age.
45:55
I feel like if you asked some sort of a middle schooler right
45:58
now, like what's bloody Mary they.
46:00
They would know, I feel. Like they would know that's.
46:02
So true. Wow, interesting.
46:07
So once again, guys, we're all going to do it right now.
46:09
Nope. Come, come with, come with me.
46:10
Wrong to the to the. This will be the Lassie here of
46:13
Jerry on this podcast. I'll be I'm going to be found in
46:16
the restroom. You're married, dancing.
46:19
You have no reason to be calling No Bloody Mary.
46:22
Leave Bloody Mary out of this dancing with You know what I
46:24
need Bloody Mario. I'll do that one.
46:27
Above my head, just like Jesus said, you said bloody Mario the
46:32
plumber. Somebody a Mario but bloody get
46:37
your ass over. Here, pulling through the glass,
46:39
over here, shorts, you know. Short guy I.
46:43
Got some piping for you and you can work on?
46:46
I got a pipe you can trade. That's crazy, why not Luigi?
46:54
What's wrong with Luigi? You can bring both.
46:55
I support. Threes.
46:57
There you go, threes. Rule of thirds.
47:00
Dang, well let us know. Did you ever play that game?
47:04
Also, what other games? What was your experience with
47:09
Bloody Mary like? How was it played back when you
47:11
first heard about it? That would be.
47:12
Interesting. Like did were you envisioning
47:15
just a girl bloody face or were you thinking of Queen Mary, the
47:18
first of exactly. England and Ireland?
47:21
Yeah, I know I wasn't. You're like, Nope, not today.
47:26
I will. I always want to go back to like
47:28
the childhood of memories of these creepy places that I grew
47:32
up remembering because. We should go to them.
47:35
We should. One of them was my elementary
47:37
school. Like I would want to go back,
47:38
'cause to me, like that's cool. Like the hallway, the wood
47:41
floors, like I mean, I'm sure it's got renovated maybe, I
47:44
don't know. But the basement, like there was
47:46
classrooms down there. In the basement.
47:48
Yeah, my second grade classroom was in the basement of the main
47:51
building. That's scary.
47:52
And then all around was like the the trailer, the classrooms and
47:56
mobile ones. But I remember that those
47:58
classrooms, they were just super creepy going downstairs.
48:00
And there was 1 bathroom that was towards the back of the
48:02
school. Well technically towards the
48:04
front of the school, but it was like in the back.
48:06
That was a haunted one, the quote UN quote haunted.
48:10
But it was a creepy school. Like that was a creepy in my
48:12
opinion. I thought it was all schools are
48:14
creepy. Yeah, absolutely.
48:15
But one with the basement and you have class down there, you
48:17
know, I don't want to be anywhere near a boiler room
48:20
because that's also so. Spooky and scary.
48:25
I have a lot of dreams that I'm back in my elementary school in
48:29
one area specifically, and I'm always like trying to run from
48:33
something and I can't. But it's in that.
48:35
Same quad area of my childhood elementary.
48:39
School running, you're like those running dreams or like the
48:42
chase scenes in In Your dreams are just like the worst when you
48:45
can't run or you're running super slow.
48:47
You're running through like molasses or something.
48:49
And then you wake up and I still run like that and I'm just like,
48:51
what the fuck? I know my treadmill speed is at
48:55
.1 but my elevation is at 30. There you go.
48:59
There you go. Like I'm climbing a mountain.
49:02
Do you remember like any specific dreams where you were
49:05
like damn I like I know I'm awake?
49:08
Oh absolutely I that was my obsession in middle school lucid
49:11
dreaming. I was locked in at 13 years old
49:16
doing my research on how to lucid dream.
49:18
YouTube playlist memorized. A phrase that you can say right
49:24
before or going to bed, where you just keep repeating it to
49:27
yourself so that when you say it in your dream, you're like, oh,
49:31
that's the phrase I'm awake in my dream.
49:35
Or a certain action that you did repeat.
49:37
I I would do an action. I think it's the action that
49:38
yeah, yeah, I remember you mentioning.
49:40
I saw one specific YouTube video that just stuck with me that
49:43
said pay attention to clocks and if you're reading in a dream
49:47
you'll notice that there it's not English.
49:51
Like the language is not. Your brain is not making words
49:54
that you can read. Percy Jackson when the the words
49:57
turn to Greek. Yeah, the Greek turns to
49:59
English. Very similar.
50:01
And then the third thing was just physical touch.
50:04
So you had to make it a habit to try and push one hand through
50:08
the other through your palm. So you're making like a kind of
50:11
AT shape with one hand. Little time out.
50:14
You're trying to push the other one through like a freaking
50:16
dagger. Wow.
50:18
And one time I had gotten so used to just doing it at regular
50:21
intervals. This was back when there was
50:24
clocks everywhere like. Old.
50:26
Clocks. And the thing was, if you ever
50:28
see a clock, do it so it stays ingrained, so it becomes just
50:32
second nature. And it happened in dream and my
50:35
hand went through and I'm like, I'm dreaming.
50:39
You can just imagine when my 13 year old mind decided to do with
50:42
that dream. I'll let you all be the judge of
50:44
that. Pubescent Brian at the right
50:46
page of 13. Lucid dreaming in a world that
50:49
is under his control. I wonder what he did.
50:52
Pitt. Any kind of male celebrities of
50:53
the time, You name them, you name them.
50:58
Wow, good. I'm happy for you.
50:59
I, I have never experienced that from what I know or remember,
51:03
but it is something I've always been intrigued of, intrigued of
51:06
learning more about. Recently I did do my little
51:08
research and I did see that the those phrases and those actions
51:12
that you can take to help. But I mean, it's backed by
51:15
science. So from what it looks like, it
51:18
looks pretty fun I've heard. Like connections that you can
51:21
also kind of use it for astral projection which I think is.
51:24
Also really interesting. That'd be that'd be interesting
51:26
too. Oh, a whole sleep episode.
51:28
The sleep cast. All right, guys, welcome back.
51:30
Today we're going to be sleeping.
51:32
We're going to be trying to lucid dream.
51:33
We're going to try to lucid dream and astral project.
51:35
So yeah, stay. Tuned.
51:37
Yeah. Let me know if I start snoring
51:38
really loud and if you think I might have sleep apnea, because
51:42
then I'll e-mail my doctor. All right.
51:45
Well, do you have any song recommendation for the day?
51:48
I do actually. I say actually, I have one like
51:53
every freaking week. My suggestion is gonna be
52:00
whatever is number one on my day list, which is Telephone by Lady
52:02
Gaga. That's amazing cuz I had a Lady
52:05
Gaga song. I know you sent it to me
52:08
earlier. I was going to say Bloody Mary
52:10
just stay on theme, but oh. That would have been so smart.
52:14
We were a great podcaster would have had that lined up.
52:19
Good thing one of us said it, I think.
52:20
I mean. You're so Jerry, I can't do this
52:23
without you. But it's so it's, it's going to
52:24
be Bloody Mary. It was going to be Bloody Mary.
52:26
But the song I had on repeat today, which I did so text Brian
52:29
about, was fashion of his love. I was made for the pimp, the
52:35
fashion of his little. Crazy like the vocals, the the
52:38
the beat, it's it's so 80s and look at that.
52:44
I started off, I started off episode singing and now you end
52:51
it singing. So hit that.
52:52
Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, Brian Lopez.
52:59
I don't remember the words. I'm going to be the one that you
53:03
love. I was made for love.
53:06
Him fashion of his love. Thank you so much, ladies and
53:09
gentlemen. Whoo.
53:10
This has been the Daily BJ. I'm Brian and I'm Jerry.
53:14
We no, we're not. We are not.
53:17
I have to say this has been the daily BJ, I'm Brian and I'm
53:21
Jerry. Thank you guys.
53:23
See you next time. Have a great day, have a great
53:25
week, have a great life. All your dreams are going to
53:28
come true. Spirits blended.
53:31
Leave them alone. Leave our listeners alone.
53:34
Do not lead them into a. Dark part of the forest if if
53:37
you call of using a a mimic of someone that they know or a
53:41
voice that they know, don't let them follow.
53:43
If you hear us in a forest, it is not us.
53:46
I promise you it is not me. It might be me.
53:48
But it's not me. But I wouldn't be calling you to
53:52
to come to me 'cause what if you don't want to go?
53:56
I'm not going to force you and be like, hey, come if you want
54:01
like or not.