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Speaker 1: Jesus is the good report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight? Oh why doan't to be Joyce isn't on tonight's show,
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Speaker 2: but good news public servants warned that we have past
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Speaker 2: peak climate scare mongering and it's time to cool it.
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Speaker 2: Plus tourists face having designed a promise to be good
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Speaker 2: before visiting a popular tourist spot, and proof that no
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Speaker 2: Jews means no news. Thousands of Muslim slaughter this week
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Speaker 2: in a horrific genocide, so why no marches in protest
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Speaker 2: for them? Also tonight, the labor government renames the lake
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Speaker 2: to honor a religious leader, and it splits the community
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Speaker 2: and w city. Of course, they wouldn't call a lake
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Speaker 2: Jesus Lake as if. But first, now the risk of
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Speaker 2: being accused again Trump to arrangement syndrome. I have to
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Speaker 2: say that Donald Trump got beaten today. The US president
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Speaker 2: started a trade war with China and has just signed
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Speaker 2: his surrender, and the world went sure. Trump today met
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Speaker 2: China's President jujip in South Korea for the first meeting
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Speaker 2: in six years, and right from the get go, G
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Speaker 2: won the image war, first making Trump wait and then
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Speaker 2: coming in from the right so that g was in
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Speaker 2: his famously favorite position for shaking hands, making Trump reach
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Speaker 2: across his body, and Trump couldn't help joking, not joking
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Speaker 2: that G was tough.
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Speaker 3: We're going to have a very successful meeting, I have
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Speaker 3: no doubt.
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Speaker 2: But he's a very tough negotiator.
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Speaker 1: That's not good.
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Speaker 2: Now, I'm just talking atmospherics. At the moment when the
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Speaker 2: leaders of the world's two greatest superpower set down the
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Speaker 2: communist dictator one side, the leader of the free world
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Speaker 2: on the other, it was clear which one was desperate
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Speaker 2: to please and which was cutting the other to size
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Speaker 2: Trump light on the flattery with the trial.
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Speaker 4: It's a great honor to be with a friend of mine,
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Speaker 4: really for a long time now, if you think about it,
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Speaker 4: the very very distinguished and respected president of China, President
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Speaker 4: G is a great leader of a great country.
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Speaker 2: But G did not flatter Trump at all. He just
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Speaker 2: pointed out that the China US relationship needed to get
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Speaker 2: back on track. I kind of dig the disruption Trump
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Speaker 2: had created, even threatening to punish China with tariffs one
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Speaker 2: hundred percent. Here is an insight into the G style.
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Speaker 5: It is a great pleasure for me as well to
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Speaker 5: meet you, and it feels very warm seeing you again.
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Speaker 5: Because it's been many years since your re elections. We
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Speaker 5: have spoken on the phone three times, exchanged several letters,
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Speaker 5: and stayed in close contact, and our joint guidance Chinese
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Speaker 5: relations have remained stable on the whole. Given our different
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Speaker 5: national conditions. We do not always see eyed eye with
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Speaker 5: each other, and it is normal for the two leading
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Speaker 5: economies of the world to have frictions now and then,
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Speaker 5: and in the face of winds, waves and challenges, you
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Speaker 5: and I, at the helm of Chinese relations, should stay
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Speaker 5: the right course and ensure the steady sailing forward of
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Speaker 5: the giant ship of Chinese relations. I always believe that
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Speaker 5: China's development goes hand in hand with your vision to
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Speaker 5: make America great again.
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Speaker 2: And one part of G's opening remarks, which won't play
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Speaker 2: it was particularly interesting, challenged Trump's repeated boast you've heard
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Speaker 2: him say many times that Trump made peace between Thailand
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Speaker 2: and Cambodi this year, one of the many peace deals
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Speaker 2: he claimed to have made. She told Trump he had
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Speaker 2: just had input into the deal, and China had actually
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Speaker 2: been involved and in more peace talks as well. Very
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Speaker 2: few leaders there contradict Trump to his face, but Trump
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Speaker 2: took all that and here is why. Last April, Trump
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Speaker 2: stunned America's trading partners Australia too, when he announced his
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Speaker 2: Liberation Day tariffs on all imports and big tariffs on
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Speaker 2: China in particular. He seemed to think he had China
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Speaker 2: over a barrel because it sells so very much through
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Speaker 2: the US. Two days later, China hit him back where
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Speaker 2: it hurts. It imposed controls on its exports of rare earth.
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Speaker 2: Now this was a massive threat to the US economy
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Speaker 2: and especially to its national security, because China controls about
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Speaker 2: ninety percent of the world's supplies of some rare earths.
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Speaker 2: It is the only supplier, and rare earths are critically
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Speaker 2: making not just wind turbines and electric cars and countless
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Speaker 2: electronic gadgets these days. More importantly, America's military desperately needs
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Speaker 2: those rare earths for its planes and its tanks, and
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Speaker 2: its submarines and its drones. Its radars are more. The
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Speaker 2: F thirty five fighter, for instance, needs rare earths or
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Speaker 2: it's radar, it's targeting, it's stealth, covering, and so on.
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Speaker 2: That's why Trump is now, of course, madly making deals
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Speaker 2: all over the world, including with Australia, A couple of
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Speaker 2: weeks ago to get new supplies of rare earth. But
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Speaker 2: the problem is creating that kind of industry is going
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Speaker 2: to take years. So even before today, Trump, for all
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Speaker 2: this bluss that started to dial back this war with China,
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Speaker 2: he scrap plans to ban the Chinese own TikTok in
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Speaker 2: the US, even though it is a threat to national security,
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Speaker 2: boat stata harvesting and pushing of memes. He banned a
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Speaker 2: visit by Taiwan's president, who's hated by China, And in
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Speaker 2: his talks with Prime Mins Anthony Albaneze a couple of
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Speaker 2: weeks ago, he even dismissed the warnings of his own
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Speaker 2: military and Secretary of War that China could start a
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Speaker 2: war over Taiwan. And in his meeting today, Trump says
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Speaker 2: he did not even discuss Taiwan, even though it is
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Speaker 2: threatened daily by Chinese jets. The two leaders emerged after
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Speaker 2: just one and a half hours of talk, shortened and expected,
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Speaker 2: and left without speaking to reporters, although Trump later did
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Speaker 2: speak on Air Force One, typically boasting of another triumph
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Speaker 2: in a meeting he described as a twelve out of ten.
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Speaker 6: There was an outstanding group of decisions.
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Speaker 7: I think that it's made.
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Speaker 2: A lot of decisions were made to him.
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Speaker 6: There was until two boats left out there, and we've
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Speaker 6: come to conclusion on many very important points, and we'll
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Speaker 6: be handing that in a little while on it on.
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Speaker 2: So what do we know of what the two leaders
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Speaker 2: actually agreed. Well, details are actually very scarce, but from
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Speaker 2: Trump's side, we are told that G promised to help
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Speaker 2: stop precursors for fentanel, as you heard Trump imply there,
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Speaker 2: from getting into the US. He also promised to buy
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Speaker 2: more American soybeans, which really just helps Trump politically at
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Speaker 2: home to get support from US farmers. And Trump claims
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Speaker 2: that China will cooperate in bringing peace to Ukraine, which
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Speaker 2: I actually doubt means much since China has actually said
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Speaker 2: it backs Russia there. And there's Trump's big win. G
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Speaker 2: supposedly did agree to let his rare earths keep flowing
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Speaker 2: to the US. It's a one year deal, the message though,
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Speaker 2: is sent by China, and China's new monopoly on rare
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Speaker 2: earth will probably now continue a bit longer. Still. Now,
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Speaker 2: what China gets in return, as far as we know
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Speaker 2: so far, includes a ten percent cut in US tariffs
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Speaker 2: and access again to advanced computer chips from the US,
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Speaker 2: which was a key demand. And certainly Trump put no
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Speaker 2: heat on China over Taiwan. Now there's probably more that
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Speaker 2: Trump wouldn't be promoting whatever he gave to China, because
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Speaker 2: all that we do know so far comes from Trump's side. Now,
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Speaker 2: China's Foreign Ministry a couple of hours ago did a
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Speaker 2: long piece, but honestly there's no detail in it. It
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Speaker 2: just it told mostly how G lectured Trump about cooperating more,
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Speaker 2: and it reported Trump's praising G's leadership at length, and
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Speaker 2: that's largely it. So essentially Trump ends this trade war
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Speaker 2: with not much at all compared to where he was
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Speaker 2: at the start. And China has sent the world a
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Speaker 2: message of its power. She has sure sent a message
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Speaker 2: of his power over Trump, and I fear for the future.
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Speaker 2: Joining me is the country's top foreign affairs writer, Greg
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Speaker 2: Sheridan of The Australian. Greg, I know that my take
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Speaker 2: is not a it's a bit at odds with a
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Speaker 2: lot of the media coverage of hers so far today,
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Speaker 2: so you may well have a different one. How important
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Speaker 2: was this deal?
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Speaker 8: Well, Andrew two critical things. First of all, welcome back.
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Speaker 8: Don't ever get sick again, the nation really struggles without you.
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Speaker 3: So just look out to you, Greg. And secondly, I.
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Speaker 8: Don't want to embarrass you on your first day back,
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Speaker 8: but I have to say I completely agree with your
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Speaker 8: analysis in your opening editorial. So like you, I try
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Speaker 8: to evaluate Trump on what he does more than what
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Speaker 8: he says. He does some good things, and he says
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Speaker 8: some good things, and he does some shocking things, and
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Speaker 8: he says many things.
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Speaker 3: That just bear no relation to reality.
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Speaker 8: But this was a clear win for China today, a clear, unequivocal,
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Speaker 8: massive defeat for Donald Trump. So Trump around Asia is
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Speaker 8: flattering everybody. Trump seems to think the only methods of
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Speaker 8: human intercourse are to flatter or to be flattered. And
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Speaker 8: when he thinks he's stronger than you, he demands that
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Speaker 8: you flatter him and make ridiculous nominations of him for
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Speaker 8: the Nobel Peace Prize. But it's a fair question. You ask,
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Speaker 8: what to China get in this deal? But here's another
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Speaker 8: way of looking at it. China has been allowed not
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Speaker 8: to change its behavior in any respect. Nothing in the
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Speaker 8: military harassment of Japan, nothing in the military harassment of
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Speaker 8: the South China Sea, nothing in its unfair trade practices,
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Speaker 8: nothing in its intimidation of Taiwan or indeed of Australia,
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Speaker 8: nothing in its cyber attacks. Now it's promised before that
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Speaker 8: it's going to stop fenting or going to the United
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Speaker 8: States has promised in the first Trump term to buy
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Speaker 8: soybeans and bought none of them. You know when the
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Speaker 8: promised to buy two hundred billion dollars extra of US
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Speaker 8: goods and nothing came of it. So a lot of
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Speaker 8: Trump's agreements amount in fact to nothing. But China's threat
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Speaker 8: to make it a condition of selling its rare earths
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Speaker 8: to you that you have to get a license from
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Speaker 8: it if you're going to export a product which contains
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Speaker 8: its rare earths. Threatened to seize and destroy the US
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Speaker 8: economy and seas and destroy in the US military. Now
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Speaker 8: we've known about this threat for years. There was a
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Speaker 8: rare earth steal between Joe Biden and Scott Morrison. The
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Speaker 8: bottom line is the West won't do anything about it
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Speaker 8: because it costs a huge amount of money. China will
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Speaker 8: always undercut you on price. The defense demand for rare
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Speaker 8: earths is a tiny speck of the total demand. So
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Speaker 8: to do the really heavy mid level processing, which we
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Speaker 8: basically don't do in this country. It will take us
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Speaker 8: years to set up and it'll never get past our
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Speaker 8: insane environmental restrictions.
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Speaker 3: That's cost a lot of money.
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Speaker 8: The West has got to have virtually a socialist industry
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Speaker 8: and rare earths, and no Western country, not even the
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Speaker 8: United States, has been willing to do it. Now China
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Speaker 8: has given everyone a shocking wake up call. But I
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Speaker 8: don't see how Trump can again intimidate China because it
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Speaker 8: will always have this rare earth's trump card to play
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Speaker 8: until there is a separate, secure Western supply. And I
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Speaker 8: think that is even if everybody goes helpful weather that
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Speaker 8: is years and years away.
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Speaker 2: And of course, making some deal a promise to release
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Speaker 2: the rare earth takes away the competitiveness of the other
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Speaker 2: countries that are telling Trump, oh no, we'll set up
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Speaker 2: our own industry, because China will always undercut them. And this,
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Speaker 2: by the way, is only a one year deal. Apparently
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Speaker 2: we do not know the details, but so it's been
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Speaker 2: reported one year deal. The whole circus starts again in
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Speaker 2: one year, so China will always have this thing hanging
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Speaker 2: over America's head. But Anthony ALBINIZI I want to pick
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Speaker 2: up something you said about is Donald Trump's charm offensive?
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Speaker 2: Now ALBINIZI had more FaceTime with Donald Trump last night,
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Speaker 2: joined a dinner in South Korea of Asian leaders in
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Speaker 2: Trump's honor, sitting on Trump's right and getting flatted all
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Speaker 2: over again.
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Speaker 9: Here is be fantastic leaders. We had a great meeting
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Speaker 9: a week ago. You came all the way, and now
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Speaker 9: you came here. But this isn't quite as far this
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Speaker 9: is this time, this time, I traveled far. But you've
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Speaker 9: done a fantastic job. But we're working together on rare earths.
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Speaker 9: But we're working on a lot of things together, and
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Speaker 9: it's all working out very well.
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Speaker 2: That's very interesting and nice for Anthony Albanisi. Very interesting too,
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Speaker 2: that it's all miked up so that people could hear it.
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Speaker 2: This is done for display. It seems to me, Greg,
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Speaker 2: as you suggested that Trump is doing the opposite of
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Speaker 2: what it's done to European leaders. European leaders get scolded
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Speaker 2: by him, Asian and Pacific leaders get flattered. Very interesting contrasts,
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Speaker 2: like it's trying to be nice to China's neighbors in
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Speaker 2: case they go to China.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well that's right, Andrew. But again there's a kind
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Speaker 8: of terrible incoherence here. So Trump has done some good things.
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Speaker 8: You know, the defense budget is higher than it would
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Speaker 8: be under a democrat.
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Speaker 3: All that stuff.
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Speaker 8: But Trump is treating India much more savagely than he
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Speaker 8: is treating China because India doesn't have a rare Earth's monopoly.
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Speaker 8: So Trump has now decided that he's in a good
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Speaker 8: mood and everyone is flattered. Now, you're right, he's flattering
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Speaker 8: the Asians and abusing the Europeans. But this move might
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Speaker 8: only last for ten minutes. I mean, the tariffs that
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Speaker 8: he imposed on Vietnam, and on Indonesia and on India,
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Speaker 8: all of them critical swing states in deal with China,
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Speaker 8: were shocking and utterly counterproductive and very damaging to their economies. Now,
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Speaker 8: to go back to another point, Trump says China is
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Speaker 8: now going to help him and the Ukraine War. The
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Speaker 8: Russian economy could not have survived during the Ukraine War
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Speaker 8: without Chinese assistance. China has been Russia's critical, indispensable military
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Speaker 8: and economic partner all through this war. I don't see
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Speaker 8: the Chinese saying we're about to withhold our supplies of Russia.
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Speaker 8: But India, because it brought a little bit of Russian
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Speaker 8: fuel as China did, got these massive tariffs because Trump
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Speaker 8: could do it. And now as a result he's sort
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Speaker 8: of put up in flames decades of American diplomacy, drawing
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Speaker 8: India in to balance, to balance China. Now he's been
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Speaker 8: sweet with the Japanese and the South Koreans on this trip.
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Speaker 3: That's great. He's been sweet with Albo.
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Speaker 8: That's great that you know, the Australian Prime Minister deserves
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Speaker 8: credit for at least not making things up. Everybody knows
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Speaker 8: now that you just have to engage in insane flattery
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Speaker 8: of Trump to get ahead. The poor old Japanese Prime
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Speaker 8: minis they had to nominate him again for the Nobel
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Speaker 8: Peace Prize.
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Speaker 3: Now, as I say, Trump does some good and some bad.
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Speaker 8: But this is really a bad day for the West
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Speaker 8: and it ought to be a wake up called once.
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Speaker 8: We need our own defense capability, our own rare earth supply,
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Speaker 8: our own resilient economy.
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Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan, you also remind me of something coming out
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Speaker 2: of this meeting. We did not hear what Trump said
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Speaker 2: suggested last week. I think it was that China would
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Speaker 2: stop now being Russian oil. That is not coming out
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Speaker 2: of this meeting no confirmation of that at all. Greg Sheridan,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. After the break.
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Speaker 2: Why Barnaby Joyce isn't next on this show normally on
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Speaker 2: Thursdays we talked to Barnaby Joyce for Prime Minister now
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Speaker 2: hinting very strongly or switched from being a National's MP
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Speaker 2: to one Nation, which might be the problem. Why he's
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Speaker 2: a m Explain why he's a no show tonight, which
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Speaker 2: is a pity. Barnaby's a no show I think because
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Speaker 2: and I've tipped this that he wouldn't come on because
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Speaker 2: there's been accused of shouting at a female staffer of
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Speaker 2: the National's Chief Whip, whose job is to make sure
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Speaker 2: the party's MPs turned up in Parliament unless excused. Now,
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Speaker 2: Barnaby wanted to go to a funeral and I'm guessing
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Speaker 2: that CEO said is quitting the Nationals. He probably did
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Speaker 2: it as a courtesy to tell the Chief Whip that
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Speaker 2: he wouldn't be there and not begging for permission. But
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Speaker 2: he was told fill in a form and this led yelling.
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Speaker 2: Apparently Sky News's report it was noted by witnesses, and
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Speaker 2: now the staffer has officially complained to the Parliamentary Workplace
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Speaker 2: Support Service and got to say, Barnaby Joyce rejects the allegations,
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Speaker 2: but it's not coming on tonight to say why your
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Speaker 2: answer any questions I have. He also faces the potential
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Speaker 2: punishment and given that he wants to quit the Nationals,
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Speaker 2: my fear is that he'll lack friends and that might
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Speaker 2: explain why some of this reporting has been a little politicized.
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Speaker 2: But on the show now. Earlier this week, as I've reported,
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Speaker 2: Melbourne and Vincent Hospital was proudly nominated for a Victorian
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Speaker 2: Governor Bard for apartheid, well in fact, for giving priority
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Speaker 2: in its emergency department to patients claiming to be Aboriginal,
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Speaker 2: allowing them those that presented to its emergency department to
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Speaker 2: be automatically assigned as urgent patients ahead of semi urgent
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Speaker 2: and non urgent patients, regardless of what they actually had.
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Speaker 2: Now boasting that First Nations more Aboriginal First Nations as
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Speaker 2: a Canadian term, I just can't. I don't understand why
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Speaker 2: it's been important Aboriginal patients are now seeing more promptly
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Speaker 2: than non indigenous patients. This is what the hospital is
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Speaker 2: actually doing. Boasting about it now when this was reported.
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Speaker 2: I kind of hope that the hospital and the government
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Speaker 2: which is giving this prize would die of shame for
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Speaker 2: being so racist, but not a bit of it. And
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Speaker 2: today the Herald Sun reports that are former president of
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Speaker 2: the Royalist Australasian College of Physicians, Professor John Wilson, was
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Speaker 2: on Peter Kredlin Show, said this sad policy contradicted medical
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Speaker 2: codes of conduct, including the Medical Board of Australia's Code
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Speaker 2: of Conduct prohibiting against discriminating against patients on grounds such
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Speaker 2: as race, and of course doctors had that kind of code.
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Speaker 2: You treat the need, not the race, you know. Now,
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Speaker 2: how can you have a hospital forcing doctors and nurses
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Speaker 2: to go against their most fundament ethical codes. Well, joining
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Speaker 2: me is doctor Peter Collins, a professional ethicist. There was
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Speaker 2: advised Top ten companies here and was director of the
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Speaker 2: Center for Ethical Leadership. It's also advised them some companies overseas.
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Speaker 2: It has been a guest lecturer at business schools in
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Speaker 2: Europe and Australia on ethics. Peter Collins, thank you so
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Speaker 2: much for your time. Is this policy against medical ethics?
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Speaker 10: Well, Andrew firstfor welcome back. You're a living testament to
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Speaker 10: the power of a health system based on need and
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Speaker 10: not race, And it does breach health ethics, and it's
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Speaker 10: a puzzle that it has been adopted by such a
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Speaker 10: reputable group as Saint Vincent's, which runs a national chain
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Speaker 10: of hospitals HKA facilities.
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Speaker 2: Well, you've actually worked in developing medical ethics. What is
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Speaker 2: the problem with this.
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Speaker 10: Foundation of madlyical ethics is universal access on the basis
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Speaker 10: of need. So if you arrive in a casualty you
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Speaker 10: get triage, which is just a fancy way of saying
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Speaker 10: the sickest get the first treatment, and those who are
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Speaker 10: less in need are then prioritize and they have to wait,
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Speaker 10: and then again you can go through the list, and
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Speaker 10: that's done by medical practitioners working out the condition of
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Speaker 10: the person and also responding. For instance, if you're in
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Speaker 10: casualty and people who've been in a car accident arrive,
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Speaker 10: where you just get pushed down the cure as it were,
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Speaker 10: and the doctors and nurses attend to those who are arriving.
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Speaker 10: It's just part of how our great health system operates,
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Speaker 10: and it's simply on the basis of need as it
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Speaker 10: ought to be.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill, we've got a government in a hospital that says, no,
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Speaker 2: this is good because it tackles disadvantage, and they're looking
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Speaker 2: at you know, they're dividing people into tribes as it were,
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Speaker 2: or races and saying everyone there be disadvantage, will some
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Speaker 2: may be and some might not be. Is there any
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Speaker 2: good reason for a policy like this which could hypothetically
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Speaker 2: have an Aboriginal with a splinter treated ahead of a
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Speaker 2: white or an Asian or an African who's got a
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Speaker 2: fractured arm.
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Speaker 10: Saye, well, if you are Indigenous and you're more likely
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Speaker 10: to find it harder to access general health services, not casualty,
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Speaker 10: but general health services, or you have a mental illness
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Speaker 10: or a victim of family violence and it's very hard
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Speaker 10: to get the right care, then health ethic says, which
22:38
Speaker 10: should set up separate programs to enable you get the
22:40
Speaker 10: health care you otherwise need to take Indigenous people in
22:43
Speaker 10: a remote community, they can't get the kind of high
22:46
Speaker 10: quality care necessarily that you might find your tertiary liberal
22:49
Speaker 10: hospital likes in Vincent's in Melbourne. So that's quite reasonable
22:53
Speaker 10: to do, and that's important so that all people have
22:56
Speaker 10: equal access, not special access, but equal access to healthcare.
23:01
Speaker 10: And that's their right and that's what the health system accommodates,
23:04
Speaker 10: and accommodates well provided those services are funded and support it.
23:09
Speaker 10: And Saint Vincent's in Melbourne and elsewhere and other hospitals
23:14
Speaker 10: do a lot of that work as they ought to,
23:16
Speaker 10: and that's good work, but not in a casualty. It
23:19
Speaker 10: puzzles me as to why they've identified the casualty as
23:23
Speaker 10: the place for this or accent of emergency, to use
23:26
Speaker 10: another term. It's just a puzzle because it breaks down
23:29
Speaker 10: the idea that healthcare should not be on the basis
23:32
Speaker 10: of race. It should be non discriminatory. It should be
23:35
Speaker 10: on the basis of need.
23:38
Speaker 2: You know that's already so much race based medicine now, Peter.
23:43
Speaker 2: I mean, some of it may well be doing good work,
23:47
Speaker 2: as you gave an example. You've got aboriginal only health services.
23:50
Speaker 2: You've got free medicines for aborigines. You've got an aboriginal
23:54
Speaker 2: waiting room in some hospitals and aboriginal menus at hospitals
23:58
Speaker 2: in cam and Melbourne. You've got free transports to medical
24:03
Speaker 2: appointments for aborigines in places like Aubrey, were, Donga and more.
24:08
Speaker 2: All of that is by race. It is not by
24:10
Speaker 2: individual need. And I'm just wondering whether this has gone
24:15
Speaker 2: overboard and if we really are treating now patients by
24:19
Speaker 2: their race, should we least demand proof of aboriginality first?
24:26
Speaker 10: Well, I think that's part of it, to be able
24:29
Speaker 10: to identify that the people as souls are Aboriginal, Torres,
24:32
Speaker 10: Straight Islands, etc. Some of the examples you give they
24:35
Speaker 10: are interesting because what it's doing is it's breaking down
24:37
Speaker 10: the barriers that some Indigenous Australians find in gaining access
24:42
Speaker 10: to healthcare. Take the menu so it's appropriate to the
24:45
Speaker 10: kind of people they are. They get transports so they're
24:48
Speaker 10: not unable to get their physically, so some of that's
24:51
Speaker 10: quite important to break down barriers to get access.
24:55
Speaker 2: Competer the example I gave of aubury Wodonga is for
24:59
Speaker 2: people with in I think about thirty kilometers of the
25:02
Speaker 2: Aboriginal Health Service. I mean you can't tell me, you know,
25:06
Speaker 2: if they couldn't walk or take a taxi like everyone else.
25:10
Speaker 2: We're not talking about someone who's way out in wood work.
25:15
Speaker 10: Well that would be the case, but most of us
25:16
Speaker 10: are in triple zero for needed ambulance and about the
25:20
Speaker 10: services and all belong that may be a problems. Yeah,
25:25
Speaker 10: so that may be the case, but there may be
25:27
Speaker 10: a special cases around this that are important around The
25:31
Speaker 10: important thing is people get access to healthcare, and to
25:34
Speaker 10: take Indigenous Australians, too many don't get the access they're preserved.
25:40
Speaker 10: It's created a divide in terms of life expectancy, the
25:44
Speaker 10: kind of diseases they acquire. So finding a way to
25:47
Speaker 10: help them get into medical and healthcare is in principle
25:51
Speaker 10: a good step to take. I can't comment on the
25:54
Speaker 10: individual cases, but you know, if that helps, and it's
25:58
Speaker 10: it's intended not to be discriminative, but to turn to
26:02
Speaker 10: turn down or to break what are potentially discriminatory barriers
26:07
Speaker 10: that Indigenous people either don't feel welcome or that some
26:11
Speaker 10: medical practitioners don't actively reach out to them. So, for instance,
26:15
Speaker 10: I can imagine and I'm aware of special groups of
26:20
Speaker 10: nurses who go out and funded by state and federal
26:23
Speaker 10: government to provide healthcare and Indigenous communities. That's a good
26:26
Speaker 10: step because it breaks down a barrier that make sist
26:29
Speaker 10: for whatever reason.
26:32
Speaker 2: No, you make a great point there, and look, access
26:34
Speaker 2: is fine, but once you're actually in the hospital getting
26:38
Speaker 2: them to the hospital, yes, I've got that once they're
26:40
Speaker 2: in the hospital in casualty, then surely you know, as
26:44
Speaker 2: you say, the racial barriers that have got to be
26:48
Speaker 2: thrown away. It's not about race, it is about need
26:51
Speaker 2: medical condition. And I think it's a sin to force
26:54
Speaker 2: s dooctors to go against their medical ethics and say
26:57
Speaker 2: no that race first. I mean, this is appalling. Peter Collins,
27:00
Speaker 2: thank you so much, indeed for your time.
27:04
Speaker 11: Thanks for andrew to a fight over a name of
27:09
Speaker 11: a lake. Now, by way of introduction, mass immigration now
27:14
Speaker 11: looks often more like colonization. What you see with suburbs
27:18
Speaker 11: now that look like ethnic and religious enclaves La Camber
27:22
Speaker 11: Boxiel in Melbourne, so Chinese, spring Vale, Vietnamese.
27:26
Speaker 2: And so on. And politicians have switched. When my parents immigrated,
27:32
Speaker 2: politicians said let's integrate migrants into the Australian community. But
27:36
Speaker 2: now they see all these new votes coming in and
27:39
Speaker 2: they say, let's make deals with what they call communities
27:42
Speaker 2: because there's so many now, right, the Indian community, the
27:45
Speaker 2: Chinese community, the Muslim community, as if we're a bunch
27:48
Speaker 2: of tribes and not a nation. Well, no one does
27:53
Speaker 2: that more openly than the Victorian government, which last year
27:57
Speaker 2: decided to rename a local lake history directly called the
28:00
Speaker 2: Berwck Springs Lake in honor of the Indian founder of
28:04
Speaker 2: the Sikh religion. So it's now called the Guru Nanak Lake.
28:09
Speaker 2: And nearly ten thousand people now sign a petition in protest.
28:12
Speaker 2: And no wonder, of course, after all, almost half of
28:16
Speaker 2: Australians are still Christian. But there is no way, of
28:20
Speaker 2: course that any Labor government would even dream of calling
28:25
Speaker 2: a lake or anything else. Well, this lake the Jesus
28:29
Speaker 2: Christ Lake, for instance, in honor of that religious leader,
28:32
Speaker 2: wrong religion. But the Guru Nanak Lake that is apparently fine,
28:37
Speaker 2: even that though just four percent of the locals are Sikh,
28:42
Speaker 2: just four percent. But you know, Labour's Planning Minister then
28:46
Speaker 2: and now Attorney Generals Sonya kok Kenny seemed dead keen
28:50
Speaker 2: for their vote, and never mind the rules. You see,
28:54
Speaker 2: the woke government actually rename this lake under a name
28:58
Speaker 2: a Place program, which is that for someone to actually
29:00
Speaker 2: be commemorated with a place name like this that have
29:04
Speaker 2: to be dead, be deceased, or have left a lasting
29:08
Speaker 2: legacy long association maybe with the nominated area. I'll tell
29:13
Speaker 2: you what, Guru Nanak didn't add that he never left
29:16
Speaker 2: India and certainly never visited Berwick Springs before he died
29:21
Speaker 2: nearly four hundred years ago. Now, first, the Liberals, being
29:26
Speaker 2: supposedly conservative not tribal, you know, they seem dead against
29:30
Speaker 2: this move. Now, of course they're so scared of alienating
29:33
Speaker 2: the Sikh vote like the Chinese vote last election, that
29:36
Speaker 2: they're not voting to reverse the decisions change the name
29:41
Speaker 2: or but one liberal try to get a motion to
29:43
Speaker 2: that effect this week. Now, this name change just been
29:49
Speaker 2: so divisive. I mean there have been protests in Berwick
29:52
Speaker 2: about the renaming of the lake and now the local
29:55
Speaker 2: paper has published a piece. But two secreters actually daring
29:59
Speaker 2: the government to go the whole holding call the whole
30:01
Speaker 2: suburb Nannackville in honor of the Sikh founder. Now, of
30:06
Speaker 2: course they're sarcastic, they're accused. They've actually accused the opponents
30:11
Speaker 2: of the name change of being racists and bullies. But
30:15
Speaker 2: they do say, look it is now all too divisive,
30:18
Speaker 2: and speaking of seats changing the name back to Barrett
30:21
Speaker 2: Springs Lake. Joining me is Michael Ball, president of the
30:23
Speaker 2: Barrett Springs Community Association and head petitioner against this ramming
30:27
Speaker 2: through of the name change. Michael Ball, thank you for
30:31
Speaker 2: your Tom. How divisive has this issue been?
30:35
Speaker 7: Oh, thanks for you, Tom Andrew. Look, it's very divisive.
30:37
Speaker 7: We're a proud multicultural community. We've got people from all
30:41
Speaker 7: different cultures and nationalities in our community and this is
30:45
Speaker 7: really deeply offensive what's happened here. And that's why myself,
30:49
Speaker 7: as the president of the Association and the Residents Committee,
30:52
Speaker 7: that's why we're calling you out on behalf of all Victorians.
30:56
Speaker 7: Victorians need to know what's happening here. There's no consultation
30:59
Speaker 7: over two year period. That was done very deliberately to appear,
31:04
Speaker 7: you know, to make good a political agenda from a
31:09
Speaker 7: twenty eight aen pre election commitment from Daniel Andrews. But
31:12
Speaker 7: it's been very divisive. People from all communities are saying
31:14
Speaker 7: this is wrong. Just the Sikh gentleman introducing himself to
31:18
Speaker 7: me on Saturday morning and he said, you know what,
31:20
Speaker 7: this is a special place now for us, but this
31:22
Speaker 7: should not be named guru in Anak. This has always
31:25
Speaker 7: been very Springs to me and that's the way it
31:27
Speaker 7: should be.
31:30
Speaker 2: I don't the whole thing is crazy. I mean, was
31:35
Speaker 2: the Labor government in your view, responding to a lot
31:37
Speaker 2: of community demand to honor the Sikh religion like this
31:42
Speaker 2: or was it just being seek votes.
31:46
Speaker 7: It was a twenty eighteen pre election commitment from Daniel Andrews.
31:48
Speaker 7: He said he'd na something in honor of Guru in
31:50
Speaker 7: a Nac and that was announced the five hundred and
31:52
Speaker 7: fifty fifth birthday of Guru in a Knack. And then
31:54
Speaker 7: what happened in twenty twenty two is the state government
31:57
Speaker 7: consulted a handful of senior seek munity leaders and this
32:01
Speaker 7: is no reflection on the Seak community. Andrew, your viewers
32:03
Speaker 7: need to understand this. I've got neighbors a few doors
32:06
Speaker 7: down for me who were Siks. They've been here fifteen
32:08
Speaker 7: twenty years. They're very upset about this. They're very upset
32:11
Speaker 7: that there was no consultation to them. Missus Barick Springs
32:14
Speaker 7: and the Barry Springs Lake is the heart of this community.
32:17
Speaker 7: So I suppose what happened then is in twenty twenty
32:19
Speaker 7: two the decision was made to change the name. There
32:22
Speaker 7: was a two year period where there was no consultation.
32:24
Speaker 7: And again your viewers need to understand this. Absolutely no consultation,
32:29
Speaker 7: not even within the Sikh community. This was done, as
32:31
Speaker 7: I said, by a few seniors, seek community leaders. We're
32:35
Speaker 7: trying to engage with them now and be proactive and
32:39
Speaker 7: trying to find a solution. And then what happened in
32:41
Speaker 7: twenty twenty four, seven state government members of parliament turned up. Now,
32:46
Speaker 7: I don't know about you, but I can't recall the
32:48
Speaker 7: last time seven members of the state government turned up
32:52
Speaker 7: anywhere in one location. But to add salt to the wounds,
32:56
Speaker 7: the local community wasn't even invited. Now, I ask yourself
32:59
Speaker 7: that question. If there's seven there was a part of
33:02
Speaker 7: turning up for such a special occasion, why wasn't the
33:05
Speaker 7: local community even invited? Because they didn't consult the community?
33:09
Speaker 7: And as I said, it goes back to it too.
33:11
Speaker 2: Embarrassed Michael, Michael Ball, you are so right now. I
33:16
Speaker 2: just want to endorse what you say about the Sea community.
33:18
Speaker 2: They've actually made fantastic immigrants. I mean, I really like
33:21
Speaker 2: the Seak culture in India. You know, they provide so
33:26
Speaker 2: many engineers in particular, so many army officers. It's you know,
33:30
Speaker 2: it's a great go get them culture. I like that,
33:33
Speaker 2: but this pandering is just disgrace for Michael Ball. Thank
33:36
Speaker 2: you so much for your time, really appreciate it. After
33:40
Speaker 2: the break, more Muslims massacred in a genocide this week.
33:45
Speaker 2: It's just horrific. But this time the protests say nothing,
33:50
Speaker 2: and why no Jews to blame? Now some photos are
33:59
Speaker 2: going to find I'm about to describe very upsetting and
34:02
Speaker 2: they should find it. So on Sunday there's going to
34:05
Speaker 2: be yet another protest in Melbourne and elsewhere about those
34:09
Speaker 2: damn Jews. Well, those Israelis killing Muslims this week. Now
34:14
Speaker 2: Israel strikes Gaza again, shouts the poster for Sunday's protests. Well,
34:19
Speaker 2: never mind that even Qatar, which is back Toamas, admits
34:22
Speaker 2: that her started this lightest latest outbreak by attacking Israeli soldiers. Now,
34:31
Speaker 2: if Sunday's protesters were really worried about dead Muslims, why
34:35
Speaker 2: are they not marching instead against the true genocide. The
34:38
Speaker 2: most ghastly massacres that occurred that just these past few
34:42
Speaker 2: days is Sudan, in the civil war there between the
34:45
Speaker 2: Muslim government and the more militantly Muslim rebels called the
34:48
Speaker 2: Rapid Support Forces, have just stormed El Fasha, capital of
34:52
Speaker 2: the Darfur province. Now on social media right now you
35:03
Speaker 2: can see for yourself those rapid support forces murdering thousands
35:06
Speaker 2: of people in Alfhashow, including more than four hundred at
35:10
Speaker 2: a maternity hospital according to the World Health Organization, slaughtering
35:14
Speaker 2: people of the wrong tribe, people who are too black. Now,
35:19
Speaker 2: the videos are just simply too ghastly for me to
35:22
Speaker 2: show you.
35:22
Speaker 12: Now.
35:23
Speaker 2: I'll only show you this. One RSF leader actually had
35:26
Speaker 2: himself filmed lining up more than fifteen civilians, and I
35:29
Speaker 2: won't show you how this ends before he shoots them
35:31
Speaker 2: all dead, one by one. There are also videos and
35:36
Speaker 2: photos of RSF gunmen chasing down women in their pickups
35:40
Speaker 2: and hanging women from trees, and crushing men under trucks
35:44
Speaker 2: and worse. It's just we have all these men you
35:48
Speaker 2: see here now they were massacred just moments later. It
35:51
Speaker 2: is all so vile. But where this protest has claimed
35:56
Speaker 2: to care about Muslims being killed? They when there are
36:01
Speaker 2: real war crimes, infinitely worse killings happening in real time
36:05
Speaker 2: on video right now, they're nowhere, not a word. And
36:09
Speaker 2: why no Jews, No Jews to blame. That's the moral here,
36:16
Speaker 2: No Jews, no news, even though at least one hundred
36:19
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand people have been killed in Sudan so far,
36:23
Speaker 2: probably many many more in this two year civil war.
36:26
Speaker 2: Half a million children suffering acute malnutrition, twelve million refugees.
36:32
Speaker 2: But I guess it's almost news to you. But from
36:34
Speaker 2: the left, what do you hear?
36:35
Speaker 12: Ah?
36:36
Speaker 2: But where are the Jews, sorry, the Zionists. We'll watch
36:40
Speaker 2: those protests as they march on Sunday. Joining me is
36:44
Speaker 2: sky New's host James Mfferson, who filled in for me
36:47
Speaker 2: so brilliantly while I was away, and Christy McSweeney, who
36:50
Speaker 2: has worked for coalition prime ministers and premiers. James am
36:54
Speaker 2: I being too cynical.
36:56
Speaker 13: Andrew Queers for Sedanah preparing themselves as we whisp and
37:00
Speaker 13: Grete's vatilla to Sudan will be leaving at any moment.
37:04
Speaker 13: Of course, of course you're not too cynical. This whole
37:07
Speaker 13: exercise is entirely cynical. If the protesters care to jot
37:12
Speaker 13: about Garzens, they would have been protesting against Hamas, because
37:17
Speaker 13: no one has oppressed the Garzans more than they're Hamas overlords.
37:21
Speaker 13: But they only care about the Garzens to the extent
37:24
Speaker 13: that the Garzans can be leveraged to demonize Israel. That's
37:28
Speaker 13: been proved without doubt over the past two years. The
37:32
Speaker 13: interesting thing, though, when you show the absolute horrors that
37:36
Speaker 13: are being perpetrated against Muslim people by Muslim people in Africa,
37:42
Speaker 13: is that the Left believe And I'm not saying this,
37:44
Speaker 13: it's just it's impossible to read anything into it other
37:48
Speaker 13: than the Left think that when Muslims are killing Muslims, well,
37:51
Speaker 13: that's just something that Muslims do. Otherwise they'd be outraged,
37:55
Speaker 13: but they turn a blind eye to it, far more
37:58
Speaker 13: concerned about demonizing is than doing anything to help Muslims.
38:04
Speaker 2: Christy, I mean, this isn't this how Israel gets framed.
38:08
Speaker 2: Because if you train the lens entirely on Israel and
38:11
Speaker 2: magnify every mistake is a war crime or whatever, and
38:14
Speaker 2: then exclude in the context like far worse, terrible things
38:20
Speaker 2: are happening elsewhere, then of course Israel turns out to
38:22
Speaker 2: be the most wicked country in the world.
38:27
Speaker 12: What's extraordinary but unsurprising when we see these protests and
38:31
Speaker 12: I'm from Melbourne, sitting here in Sydney today where people
38:34
Speaker 12: are setting up market stalls outside of Saint Mary's cathedral
38:37
Speaker 12: in Hyde Park selling cafirs for fifteen dollars so people
38:41
Speaker 12: can wear them to a protest. But Melbourne has so
38:44
Speaker 12: many protests, many of them protesting against Israelis and against
38:51
Speaker 12: Jewish activity. And all of those protesting compass people who
38:57
Speaker 12: are waving flags for various other causes rights, trans rights,
39:02
Speaker 12: women's rights, indigenous rights, climate action. None of those people
39:08
Speaker 12: are waving a flag for the atrocities that we've just
39:10
Speaker 12: seen there, None of them. And of all those people
39:13
Speaker 12: marching for the rights of women in Gaza, none of
39:16
Speaker 12: them have paid a scare of attention to the other
39:19
Speaker 12: activities around the world engaged in by other nations and
39:23
Speaker 12: other religions, persecuting women just for being female.
39:28
Speaker 2: None of it. Look, the hypocrisy really really gets me, James.
39:35
Speaker 2: The story that you were fascinated by the Averaginal corporation
39:41
Speaker 2: that oversees Queensland's North Strathbroke Island has suggested the tourists
39:46
Speaker 2: be asked to make a pledge to be good tourists.
39:50
Speaker 2: It defines what good means and respect the culture and
39:54
Speaker 2: possibly purely coincidentally pay a new fee. Now they suggested
39:58
Speaker 2: this is an indigenous tourism seminar this week. This is
40:01
Speaker 2: a good idea or some sort of trojan horse or
40:05
Speaker 2: just naked money grab andrew.
40:07
Speaker 13: The thin edge of the wedge is expanding rapidly. Think
40:10
Speaker 13: about this. To visit North Stradbrick Island, potentially you would
40:14
Speaker 13: be asked to sign a pledge to be a good tourist.
40:18
Speaker 13: And part of what they define as a good tourist
40:21
Speaker 13: is someone who respects indigenous culture. So not only do
40:25
Speaker 13: you have to have a welcome to country or an
40:27
Speaker 13: acknowledgment of country, you have to then pledge to respect country,
40:32
Speaker 13: whatever that means in indigenous culture. And then there's a
40:36
Speaker 13: suggestion that you might like to make a donation, which
40:40
Speaker 13: the indigenous body says is voluntary at this stage. So
40:45
Speaker 13: we all know where this is going. It's just divide, divide, divide.
40:51
Speaker 13: I cannot believe that these sorts of things are being
40:54
Speaker 13: not only suggested but taken seriously by local councils and
40:59
Speaker 13: a siated bodies. And what happens if you don't take
41:02
Speaker 13: the pledge? What happens if you arrive at North Strabroock
41:04
Speaker 13: Island and say, well, I don't want to promise to
41:07
Speaker 13: respect Indigenous culture, not because you're a bad person, but
41:11
Speaker 13: you just want to enjoy Australia where you were born.
41:13
Speaker 13: It's a shocking idea and it's just further division of
41:18
Speaker 13: people that really, we don't need any more of that.
41:22
Speaker 2: Christy Will. We now need to sign a good tourism
41:27
Speaker 2: pledge and respect the European culture that built the Sydney
41:31
Speaker 2: Harbord Bridge if we decide to go visit that or
41:35
Speaker 2: the Sydney Opera House. I mean, do you need cultural
41:38
Speaker 2: respect certificates to visit whatever monuments to Western culture?
41:47
Speaker 12: Well, Andrew, I'd like to know. And with all these things,
41:50
Speaker 12: the devil is in the detail. And it's been very
41:54
Speaker 12: ambiguously framed as a way for people to say that
41:58
Speaker 12: they can respect the culture and they can drive less
42:03
Speaker 12: and they can take less plastics onto the island. It's
42:05
Speaker 12: almost an eco tourism package is a way that it's framed.
42:09
Speaker 12: Where's the money going to? I'd like to know if
42:14
Speaker 12: people sign a pledge to be a good tourist and
42:16
Speaker 12: be more sustainable and not bring plastic materials to the island,
42:21
Speaker 12: and all of those things are really good things. Respecting
42:24
Speaker 12: the environment and reducing your footprints and your energy consumption
42:28
Speaker 12: on the island.
42:29
Speaker 2: All of those are good things, correct, What.
42:31
Speaker 12: Does that have to do with indigenous What does that
42:34
Speaker 12: have to do with indigenous?
42:36
Speaker 2: What what? You're not allowed to bring plass to the island,
42:39
Speaker 2: But they do two different things. The credit card, you've
42:42
Speaker 2: got to bring your plastic critical yes, of course, of course.
42:47
Speaker 12: So if you want a lesson you're prints, that's wonderful, do.
42:51
Speaker 13: That plastic card.
42:54
Speaker 1: If you want to respect.
42:56
Speaker 13: That's enough.
42:57
Speaker 2: I've got to cut the segment short. Sorry that thanks
43:00
Speaker 2: for very much for your time. After the break and
43:03
Speaker 2: a legal immigrant it's sexually assaulted. A forty year old
43:06
Speaker 2: is paid to go back home and then complaints. Police
43:10
Speaker 2: didn't even want to arrest him anyway. How mad is
43:13
Speaker 2: Britain today.
43:18
Speaker 10: Now?
43:18
Speaker 2: Concern about mass immigration is now just all over the
43:22
Speaker 2: West right, and particularly in Britain, I have to say
43:26
Speaker 2: its own part because its labor governor has become a
43:30
Speaker 2: total clown show. I mean, this year has seen record
43:33
Speaker 2: numbers of both people that are many of them put
43:35
Speaker 2: up in hotels. This is one thing, you know, the
43:38
Speaker 2: seeming inability of the government to stop all that stuff.
43:42
Speaker 2: But the didn't get this. Now, as I mentioned on Monday.
43:44
Speaker 2: The one illegal immigrant from Ethiopia was then convicted of
43:48
Speaker 2: sexually assaulting a fourteen year old British girl and a woman,
43:51
Speaker 2: but was then accidentally freed from jail. He was not
43:55
Speaker 2: meant to be released, He just walked out. He was
43:58
Speaker 2: eventually recaptured up to two days and then deported, but
44:02
Speaker 2: not before he was paid one thousand dollars to go
44:08
Speaker 2: and not file for asylum first and worse, when he
44:11
Speaker 2: did get to Ethiopia. His claimed that British police failed
44:15
Speaker 2: to arrest him when he walked out of jail, even
44:18
Speaker 2: when he tried to surrender.
44:20
Speaker 8: I get a police look here, please, I wanted mone
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Speaker 8: I arrested.
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Speaker 11: I would give you my hand, but he had to
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Speaker 11: people worries potistician, he ignored me.
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Speaker 2: He did joinally from London's Patrick Christie's star presenter of
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Speaker 2: GV News. Great to see Patrick, but I've got to say,
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Speaker 2: this is beyond a face and I'm just look, it's
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Speaker 2: hard to think of which part of this saga would
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Speaker 2: outrage voters.
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Speaker 14: Most absolutely perthink, great to see you again, Andrew. But right,
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Speaker 14: it's the fact that firstly, this is every single day
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Speaker 14: now something like this happens second thing is the cost
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Speaker 14: of it. So we paid for this ethio and child
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Speaker 14: sex offender to live in a hotel for a while.
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Speaker 14: We pay for his food, We paid for his alcohol,
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Speaker 14: which you can assume before he's sexually assaulted a fourteen
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Speaker 14: year old school girl. We paid for him to go
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Speaker 14: to court, We paid for him to live in prison,
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Speaker 14: we paid for the police hunt after his mistakenly release
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Speaker 14: from prison, and then, as you've rightly pointed out there,
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Speaker 14: we paid him about one thousand Australian.
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Speaker 1: Dollars just to leave. The other aspect of this, of course.
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Speaker 14: Is that for many people, this is our worst fears
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Speaker 14: coming true. And everyone likes to be right, don't they,
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Speaker 14: But not really in this case or in these cases,
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Speaker 14: because that unfortunately means that something absolutely terrible has.
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Speaker 1: Happened to somebody. It's the fact that it's not in isolation.
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Speaker 14: I mean the other day, just the other day, there's
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Speaker 14: a man from Afghanistan who went to Britain illegally in
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Speaker 14: the back of a lorry allegedly stabbed at a random
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Speaker 14: dog walker to death. We've got a Somalian who's been
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Speaker 14: sentenced for rape yesterday, Sudanese man last week guilty of
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Speaker 14: trying to kidnap a seventeen year old schoolgirl.
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Speaker 1: Another Sudanese man guilty just.
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Speaker 14: A couple of days ago of stabbing an asylum hotel
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Speaker 14: worker to death. This is the everyday reality now, sadly
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Speaker 14: of modern Britain, and you know it's the social contracts
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Speaker 14: has been completely broken.
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Speaker 1: It is the worst case scenario.
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Speaker 14: If this Ethiopian sex offender can be deported, even if
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Speaker 14: we have to pay in five hundred British pounds, why
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Speaker 14: can't we just deport the other illegal migrants as well,
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Speaker 14: the other criminal illegal migrants.
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Speaker 1: Why can't we just deport that.
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Speaker 2: Well? That is an excellent question, Patrick, That's a very
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Speaker 2: good question. Patrick. We're having a huge debate here about
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Speaker 2: green energy. It's casting us so much more than was promised,
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Speaker 2: it's delivering less electricity than we were told, and it's
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Speaker 2: driving heavy industry out of business. I mean, the price
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Speaker 2: has gone through the roof now in Britain. I see
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Speaker 2: that your version of our Chris Bowen, your Energy Secretary
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Speaker 2: Ed Millerban has now admitted that wind farms are actually
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Speaker 2: producing muchless wind than first thought. Now, how much trouble
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Speaker 2: is your supposed green energy transition in you know, the
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Speaker 2: supposed move to wind and solar under the net zero push.
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Speaker 14: Well, anyone with common sense admits that it's in a
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Speaker 14: lot of trouble because we have the highest energy prices
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Speaker 14: in the developed world here.
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Speaker 1: In Britain, which is nuts unfortunately for us. Though our
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Speaker 1: net zero.
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Speaker 14: Minister ed miller Band is like Wallace without the Gromet.
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Speaker 14: I mean that is the face of net zero. Litrey
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Speaker 14: just personified, really lives in a three and a half
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Speaker 14: million pound house himself and it doesn't have to worry
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Speaker 14: about any additional costs for anything in his life.
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Speaker 1: But meanwhile, obviously the rest of us, the rest of
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Speaker 1: us mugs Andre.
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Speaker 14: We know we're just going to suck it up and
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Speaker 14: pay an extra few thousand pounds a year for energy bills.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it turns out wind farms. It can't get
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Speaker 1: to windy in.
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Speaker 14: Britain, Andrew, because if it does, then our national grid
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Speaker 14: blows up and we have to pay to import our
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Speaker 14: energy from We're not allowed to drill for our own
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Speaker 14: oil in the North Sea, so we have to buy
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Speaker 14: it off the Norwegians who drill it out of the
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Speaker 14: North Sea or imports it from Indonesia.
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Speaker 1: It's nuts, it's nuts.
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Speaker 2: It's it's look, it's just a shocker. And I just
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Speaker 2: think the whole West is coming a real cropper here.
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Speaker 2: But China is laughing at us. Patrick Patrick Christie's next week,
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Speaker 2: I'd like more time with you. Let's make a date.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much indeed for your time. Really appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: That's it from me, Coming up next, Sherry markson good Night,