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The Hidden Toxins Behind Your Gut Issues (Food Isn’t the Root Cause) | Sinclair Kennally · Everyday Ancestral with James Barry

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  Today on Everyday Incessial, we're talking about why so many people feel trapped in food fear,
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  gut reactions and constant healing, and why the problem might not be their gut at all.
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  See, Claire, thank you so much for joining us. Why do you think digestive issues have become
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  almost universal? Well, we're living in a world that we actually didn't consent to, honestly.
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  Like nobody said, hey, here's what herbicides and pesticides are going to do to your gut microbiome
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  and to the soil health and to your gut lining sign on the dotted line. They don't have to do that.
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  We've been in decades-long experiments now and we are the experiment. So we're now reaping
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  the rewards of that in the sense that, you know, the bill is coming due for all of us health-wise.
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  But we didn't know that. Like I grew up on Costco snacks. I grew up on McDonald's. I grew up on
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  suburrows and dominoes and you know, that was part of our American lifestyle and honestly,
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  we thought of it as like our right to eat whatever we want and have somebody else think about
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  what got that food onto our plate and whether or not that was going to actually work out for
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  our bodies. So now we're just having to re-educate ourselves and catch up with what ancestral
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  healing really looks like in a modern era. That is such a good point though because I feel like
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  that's the battlefield we're in right now. You have a generation that's like, well, this is what I
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  ate growing up and then you have our current population or our current kind of digestible
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  information through socials and all this stuff, which is obviously new, but where you're being
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  bombarded with, well, this stuff is bad for you. So the stuff we grew up with is bad for you.
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  You still have a generation of people who are like, well, why can't I eat it? You ate it. I want
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  to eat it. And so it almost feels like we're literally budding heads. It begs the question of like,
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  you know, is our gut, you know, this battleground where modern life, food trends, trauma, toxins,
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  and control just kind of collide. I think that's really well said, but I also think about my two
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  grandmothers. One grandma was the fun grandma and she took me to Dunkin Donuts and her favorite
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  coffee was McDonald's coffee and she loved it in the Styrofoam cup and she cooked with Crisco.
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  She was a lot of fun, but she also ended up in the last two decades of her life in a tremendous
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  amount of pain. And she had over 22 surgeries and was bedridden and I watched this amazing woman
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  full of life really, really suffer at the end compared to my hippie grandma who was making my dad
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  eat caftong and calf brains as a kid. He was that weirdo. He was the original hippie. She had a
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  fanny pack that said vitamin lady on it. You know, she was handing out vitamin C. Her cookies
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  tasted terrible. They tasted like sawdust. You know, she thought popcorn was fast food. But she
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  got to die peacefully. She had three days of, you know, feeling really uncomfortable and a few weeks
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  before that a feeling tired. And she got to die with a lot of dignity and before that she was
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  traveling the world and going to China and she was seeing inquires all the way up until the end.
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  So her food choices really bought her her freedom even in those earlier decades compared to my
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  other fun grandma who didn't want to have to think about all that who outsourced all of her
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  power in the end and her freedom to the, you know, the medical system. Really then what we're talking
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  about is that that that kind of saying that maybe someone's heard or not. I know I've talked about
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  a lot, which is your pain, the piper now in quality food and the choices you're making or your
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  pain in hospital bills later. Yeah, I think that's a really great way to say it. And, you know,
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  some of us have to figure that out sooner than others. Some of us are the canaries in the coal mine
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  like me. I didn't want to have to learn about any of this stuff, but I'm so grateful that I did
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  and that I have total control over the quality of my life now. You know, I dug in and I did a lot
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  of research and then I figured out how to incorporate it into my home and then in our practice.
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  All right, so I want to try something new that I've never done. I want to do like a quick fire
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  questions and then a quick fire answer back for some very common gut related questions that end or
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  misconceptions that people might have. Are you game to do that? So here we go.
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  Will drinking a probiotic soda like poppy actually heal someone's gut? No, absolutely not.
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  Kefir water or kombucha or neither. Neither if you have histamine issues.
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  Probiotic foods or probiotic pills? Probiotic foods, ideally, but again, not if you have histamine
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  issues. What's more important pre or probiotics or both or neither? Neither.
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  Do most people actually have parasites? Absolutely. Does doing a parasite cleanse during a full moon
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  actually matter? I have to give you a longer answer for that. So the full moon thing is not
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  hippy-dippy weirdo stuff. Your parasites evolved with you remember over the ages.
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  And when you are going through a full moon that days leading up to a full moon in the days after,
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  you make a little bit less melatonin in your immune system is a little bit less strong.
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  At the same time, you're making more serotonin, which is the you know, you're happy good feelings.
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  That's a yummy unilateral transmitter. Guess who wants to eat that and steal it from you?
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  You parasites. So they have a lot more activity during a full moon. Some species do.
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  And so it is great to go after them during the full moon, but that's not the only time
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  you work on parasites. Okay, that's good though. Probiotics, pre-products, do they really help
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  most people or are they making gut symptoms worse? It's like trying to change the
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  pink color of your walls when the house is on fire. Okay, that's great. I can't wait to do that.
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  So we're going to dive into all these. So this is great. If someone reacts to everything
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  they eat, is it food or the gut? It's not the food. The food is the thing that throws the
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  inflammation bucket over the top. It's the state of your gut and the state of your immune system.
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  Can restricting foods long-term actually make the gut more sensitive?
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  Potentially, yeah. Are people trying to heal their gut too aggressively?
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  I think they're just pointing at the wrong factors and spending money on the wrong things.
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  Okay, that's going to be fun to dive into. Vegetables are no vegetables.
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  Oh, come on, I love my veggies. Don't take them away.
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  Supplement with fiber or just eat more fibrous foods. No, no, no, eat more fibrous foods.
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  If your gut can tolerate it, remember SIBO, not so much. Tums or no tums, those anti-acid
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  kind of thing. Never, never take a tums. Please, please never take a tums.
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  Which feeds into his low hydrochloric acid, a chronic condition for most people.
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  Most people have less hydrochloric acid than they need. Yes. And we could talk about how to fix that
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  today on your own. Yes. Our elimination diets meant to be long-term.
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  No. Can someone heal their gut without supporting their liver?
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  No. Is eating clean always better for gut health?
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  Yeah. Well, like eating clean, I think we're just mean eating real food versus franken food.
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  Well, you know, some people are like, well, it's important to keep your, you know, your body
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  guessing. So sometimes, you know, having those cheat days is important. Are you a fan of cheat
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  days? I wouldn't think about it like cheating or not cheating. I think that's a weird route to go
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  down for you mentally, emotionally, physically. Do you have to be perfect? No. But it depends on
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  the intensity and spirit of your symptoms. We tell you what factors today. When to cheat?
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  Our symptoms during a cleanse always a die off. No. Can someone fully heal their gut while living
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  in constant stress? No. And then are people over controlling their diets in the name of healing?
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  Yeah. People are putting way too much emphasis on food. Food is one layer of inputs for the body
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  when you're trying to heal from chronic frustrating symptoms. So yeah, they're putting way too much
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  emphasis on just that piece. Let's dive into the prebiotic, probiotic conversation. Because I
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  feel what shocks me if you go into a CVS or going to really almost any kind of medicinal sort of
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  store or whatever store that sells a pharma stuff, they will have probiotic sodas in the digestible
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  area. So they're treating it like this is a medicine or this is a support food. I cannot believe
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  that to be true. Are these all these fortified foods that have all these probiotics? Are they really
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  moving the needle? Are they necessary? How should we be thinking? I personally cannot think of a
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  single person in my practice where I would think that is a good idea. And I want to give the
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  makers of those beverages that benefited the doubt. If they're passionate about their products,
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  I really invite them to learn more about gut health and to moderate their claims and stop
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  leaning still heavily on some very distorted pieces of information that have been cherry picked
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  because I think you're misleading the consumer and whether you know that or not, that's between
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  you and your own integrity. But I don't want anybody drinking those. Yeah, so how should we be
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  thinking differently? Well, I think that we have to ask ourselves smarter questions about why we
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  have symptoms in the first place. We know that food is not as nutritionally dense as it used to be.
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  Just because of our soil health and the trickle-down effect, that's been happening since the end
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  of World War II. So now are multiple generations into this experiment, but it really picked up
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  steam in 1996 when glyphosate was allowed to get sprayed on food crops. So that's when we really
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  took a turn for the worse, where we depleted our soil of active healthy organisms and we depleted
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  our plants of the minerals that we and the animals we eat need to be really strong and healthy.
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  Our bodies are already on the back foot. They're a little bit vulnerable to lots of different
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  health issues just because we don't have enough of those core nutrients without thinking about it
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  and planning for it. Like without adding a little bit of pluck into our meals, you've got to get
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  proactive in this day and age. So we're already nutrient dense.
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  We're already nutrient deficient. Yeah, we're already nutrient deficient.
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  And that makes us really vulnerable to dysbiosis in the gut when something like herbicides and
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  pesticides comes in and spoiler alert, that's leaking in on almost every food you eat way more
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  than you think. Even organic food, it's just less, but it's not gone because of crop drift,
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  because of cross contamination. There's a lot of reasons why. Organic is really, really important.
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  Sourcing clean food is really important, but please know you still have exposures going on that
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  you're not consenting to in your food, your area, water and your personal care. Those tiny exposures
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  are what push the microbiome into distortions. So your body doesn't make mistakes to really smart
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  and it's using overgrowth of certain bacteria and fungi and pathogens to actually try to mop up
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  that mess and create some stability. H. Prylory often flourishes in the presence of chemicals
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  commonly found in tap water. And if you try to kill the H. Prylory too early in your journey,
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  you can get an increase in symptoms. Instead of supporting the body to excrete the toxins,
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  get your energy back and allow your gut microbiome to rebalance itself. Maybe with some targeted support,
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  maybe with some antiparasitics as part of a bigger plan, but we're not trying to carpet bomb
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  the bad guys here because the bad guys are actually here to do a job. Candida is another one. We
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  talk about Candida. It's really bad and it can be super frustrating. Skin stuff, depression,
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  lack of energy, frustrating, embarrassing, bloating and digestive issues. They're not for the
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  faint of heart. They really suck. But your Candida is there to hold on to, for example, heavy metals,
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  earth control residues, antibiotic leftovers. It's not an accident. Your body is using that as a tool
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  and it's allowing Candida to bloom into its pathogenic form to do that for you. So do we want to
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  just let Candida run wild? No, we want to have good boundaries. We want to take away the reasons
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  for Candida, which starts with detox. It starts with cleaning up your plate and starts with gentle
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  release stuff that you can do at home. It's not about huge clinical inventions for most people.
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  It's about gentle little steps you can fold into your day. Because that is very American, right?
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  Go big, go home. It's like it's all about going big. But the reality is when we look at humanity,
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  nothing that we do in an extreme ever lasts very long. There's nothing extreme that becomes
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  lifestyle. Because you burn out, you let go of it. I mean, the start of the year with
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  New Year's resolutions is a perfect example. Most resolutions are done within a week or two,
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  because people can't keep them going. This is a fascinating way that you're talking about that.
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  I don't know if I've ever heard it talked about this way, where you almost want to have a balanced
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  relationship with the Candida, with these kind of things that we are being that are really more like
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  are playing the bad guy roles these days, right? Everyone's talking about these things and they're
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  saying, no, we got to get rid of them and all these things. But you're really coming at it in a
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  different way. Can you elaborate more on like not only how we should be looking at these things,
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  but then what we should be kind of what are first steps? My encouragement to you if you have
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  active digestive symptoms and that you're not happy with your level of energy is to first look at
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  what's on your plate and simplify and take out the fake foods. Get down to single ingredient foods.
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  And you can bolster that with bioavailable minerals and things like organic seasonings,
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  like what James makes with pluck, just so that you're getting some nutrients back in.
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  And we want to get out of our diet, accidental exposures. So we want to stop
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  microwaving foods in plastic and wondering why we don't feel good and why we have difficult periods
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  and low sperm motility. Like this is not a secret. There's thousands and thousands of studies done
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  now about how we really cannot tolerate even low exposures of plastics in our foods. So we want to,
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  yeah, store things in glass containers, heat them like the glass or stainless steel. It's just
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  be smart. Let's not spend so much on the doctor's office later. Let's just make these little shifts
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  now. It's not about doing it all in one day or feeling bad that you haven't done it yet.
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  Think about it more like a win every time you take a step in the right direction because
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  momentum begets more momentum. And you may want to add in some mitochondrial supports in the
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  meantime just so you have enough get up and go to make good choices in the moment. Because guess who
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  makes bad choices about food and starts using wine and substances as crutches exhausted,
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  stressed out people. And you're just doing what you can in the moment to soothe your nervous system
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  and come back into a state of trying to feel some safety and some comfort. And you are totally
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  allowed to have that. It's just the direction you get it from determines how good you feel tomorrow
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  or you know a year from now or 10 years from now. So I like adding in mitochondrial support early
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  so that you have the energy to make good choices and you're not just feeling super depleted.
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  What is mitochondrial support look like? Member from MancredE science mitochondria like the little
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  power, you know, Duracell energizer bunnies. They turn our nutrients as long as you
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  took them in that are right into the cell into ATP. That's the body's energy currency. Energy
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  in the body just means the capacity to do work. Do I have enough energy on board to do the work
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  I'm supposed to do today? Yes, that means my to-do list and show up at my job and take care of the kids
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  and you know try to be there for my community but really energy means tissue repair it means detox
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  and drainage it means digestion. You actually need to have enough energy to digest well
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  and when you don't have enough energy we don't already have enough nutrients to have a healthy
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  enough microbiome to absorb your food. You could be making really expensive food choices and nothing
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  able to absorb them and that's super frustrating because right when you need them the most
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  you have the least access to them. So I like doing nervous system support for mitochondria and I like
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  micronutrient support for the mitochondria. So when I say nervous system support, what do I mean?
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  I mean helping the body get back quickly into a state of safety. So that's when we go into
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  parasympathetic dominance. So you feel calm and safe in your body but you also feel alert.
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  You're not in a state of collapse. You're not doomed scrolling, you know, the opposite of
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  you know parasympathetic dominance. So when you have safety in the body like that then you
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  actually are telling the body from the nervous system down into the digestive tract down into
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  your immune system down into your liver. Hey guess what guys? We're safe with all systems go.
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  Let's digest. I'm going to send you all the resources and oxygen and blood flow you need to detox
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  and process toxins in the liver. It's okay to repair right now because we're safe enough.
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  You know, let's get all that work done because there's no tiger chasing us our bosses and yelling
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  our kids aren't losing their minds, you know, it's safe to just do the housekeeping right now.
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  So you can do simple at home exercises just to help with that.
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  Do you think though that we're
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  we're inundated with information these days right because so many we have so much access
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  but it's not all necessarily grounded, you know, support. It's it's more just taught. It's talking
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  it's trending. It's you know, it's just sound bites right. In two degree
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  that idea of there's too many cooks in the kitchen if you're a chef or there's too many doctors
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  in the room that we're kind of living that right now where we're we have so many voices in our head
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  of do I eat this do I eat that do I live like this do I live like that do you think there's
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  almost value in really just picking some foundational things then you've already mentioned something
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  like okay I'm only going to eat food that is an ingredient versus has ingredients. I'm just talking
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  stages right step so I'm not going to worry about organic or or not okay I'm just going to do one
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  step at a time which is just eat real food first and then I'm going to make sure that I'm sitting
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  down when I'm eating I'm not eating when I'm driving like picking some very simple foundational
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  things and putting all the emphasis on de-stressing from the situation do you think that it's the stress
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  around getting healthy that is actually keeping us from getting healthy. I think it feels that way
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  in the moment but as someone who is extremely chronically ill I think that for most of us by the time
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  our health really has our attention the stress around getting well is not your biggest problem
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  you're actually has such a dysregulated nervous system a paperclip is going to annoy the cred
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  out of you you know every everything is going to feel like too much so that includes the topic
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  of what to do right you know for your health but it's not limited to that most of us silently have
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  our whole lives shrink down to the size and shape of our symptoms until that point our health
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  doesn't have our attention but when we finally get there then we're like oh shoot this has gone
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  too far now I need to do something about it because it's not in our culture yet it's coming back
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  into our culture to take care of ourselves and each other but it's not there yet so I think you
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  can stress yourself out about anything when you feel sick and I really encourage you to stay calm
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  in the process and even if you only get one gym out of this interview that's enough and just
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  become an expert sorter become a detective of your own health and accept that that is part of
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  the process no one is coming to save you in fact you wouldn't want them to you want to have an
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  experience of your own personal power because there's nothing more thrilling than realizing I did
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  that I got my life back I got my health back myself and that's the medical sovereignty you've
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  spoken about another interview is correct yeah can you share a bit about your own journey from
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  medical sovereignty you you have quite quite the health journey that obviously brought you to
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  this path of wanting to help people but I'd love you to share that well I actually start out in
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  mental health so I thought everything was about trauma release and you know these personal
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  development processes and I was the deep believer in that and that absolutely has its place
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  but I was not a good candidate for healing myself I kind of sucked at self-care you know I was
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  inherently lazy about doing the right basic things just to take care of this body I didn't want to
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  I was like very childish and resistant about that and so when I got sick I was expecting a white
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  coat so to save me you know and it really took ending up in the hospital for my body to get my full
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  attention because I'm a forced generation entrepreneur and I learned early on just like any good
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  American rest when you're dead you know just push through anything less than that means you're
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  not tough enough so tough and that better cut and that can only get you so far it's really good
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  in the moment but if you know for like five minutes at a time not a good strategy for years at a
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  time so by the time I finally ended up in the hospital where I thought I was dying I had
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  lime advanced chronic lime I had Hashimoto's in fibromyalgia and rheumatoid arthritis and
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  gird and SIBO and I was down to three foods I couldn't read an email or write a sentence for years
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  because I didn't have the cognitive wherewithal to do either one and I couldn't hold a pen
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  my it took me hours every day to unclench my hands so that I could hold anything in them I couldn't
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  raise my arms up enough to wash my own hair but it took getting that bad for me to notice
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  which is just crazy and I think that's what's happening to a lot of Americans right now like wait a
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  minute everybody's sick but this is a bigger problem than just hey things get harder as you get older
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  we've actually stolen our own healthy lifespan away from ourselves it is really amazing to me that
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  people it has to get that bad for us to finally respond to finally listen why do you think that is
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  I think we grew up in a culture where if it's on the shelf someone else has that through whether or
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  not it's allowed to be on the shelf like we're we're in a developed country where everything should
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  just work the roads the lights you know the outlets at home the food on the shelf it should all
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  just work and someone else has started through for us lucky us and I think that works as long as
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  you have somebody in your community that is doing each of those roles and you trust them but we
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  had outsourced all of our power about how to take care of our health to really big companies who
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  have endless pressure on themselves to perform perform perform and show you why they're making
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  even more money than they were last month last quarter last year or they quickly lose value
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  so it's not a system that is human first it's actually human last well which is clearly
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  making people feel powerless within this system so how how do we take back that power because
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  sometimes taking back that power feels very expensive and that's that's one of the you know the
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  issues is a lot of people are like I can't I don't have time I don't I can't afford this I
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  I don't even know where to start you know these are the hurdles the most expensive thing you can do
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  in this process is outsource your power and your decision making to someone else
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  and to have an emotional response that where you're wasting your precious energy on irritation
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  about this like excuse me right I can't believe I have to learn about all this stuff
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  I can't believe I can't get away with what other people can eat
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  when will the government just figure this out for me you know or why don't they just protect us
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  and you can certainly use your voice as a citizen but do you really want to wait
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  for the wheels of government to change to catch up to finally protect you please don't
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  you matter so much more than that please start now we're also dealing with two big heavy hitters
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  and you had one of them I imagine you also had the second one you just haven't mentioned yet
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  one is limes and the other is parasites and I would say the third one is mold right those those
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  three are just showing up from my perspective everywhere and it's typically an underlying chronic
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  issue that most doctors are not identifying early on so then people spin their wheels they
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  spend all this money for years and years they're still sick and then suddenly it's revealed oh no
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  you have limes or oh you have mold remember what we talked about with the balance of the microbiome and
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  the bad bugs are there to do a job they act as toxins manages for us so that's why we're allowed
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  to let our bugs run rampant you know our immune system is not in a position to fight back
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  when we're living in an era of toxins those toxins create stagnation they suppress the immune
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  system and they shut down your energy production so you're not your body knows the bugs are in
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  there your body knows the parasites are in there your body can see the lime even though they all
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  have their little strategies like biofilms to hide behind and trick you your body still knows
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  it's just not in a position to fight back without some strategic support because again
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  you're deficient so what with just our basic nutrients and until we flush out those toxins at a very
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  gentle pace this is going to get hard so what would be the very first step that you could take for
• 27:26
  yourself and your family it would be to filter your water some of us um you know an underwater
• 27:33
  or whole house filter is like way at a price range right the good news is you can distill your water
• 27:39
  for less than a hundred bucks i could i see them on for sixty dollars on amazon you can get a
• 27:45
  distiller that sits on your countertop they can clean the water for your whole family the whole
• 27:50
  myth about distilled water being unsafe for you has been debunked it actually helps your body to
• 27:56
  let go of those toxic inorganic minerals the ones that your body can't actually break down and use
• 28:03
  you're not getting healthy minerals from your filtered water right now you're going to have to
• 28:08
  supplement with bioavailable minerals anyway so if you were going to do two things to change your
• 28:14
  whole trajectory of your life it would be to clean up your water and distill it and add in some
• 28:20
  bioavailable trace minerals what does that do it helps your body get faster at detoxing the junk
• 28:27
  that's already in storage because you're not continuing to poison yourself on a daily basis
• 28:32
  most people don't like drinking water because their body instinctively knows that's full of poison
• 28:39
  in fact i show me your toxin labs and i'll show you based on your zip code that you've lived in
• 28:45
  decade by decade where you picked those up most of it was in your water or your food
• 28:50
  now i can print you this little map journey of how you got to your symptoms and next comes the
• 28:55
  bargaining conversation well what about my breda what about my zero filter what about my breakey
• 28:59
  what about this with that pay attention to the lawsuits that are happening right now with those
• 29:03
  filtration companies their claims are not holding up and even the stuff that they do claim to filter
• 29:10
  out it doesn't capture radioactive elements which are devastating to your energy most of us are
• 29:16
  getting exposures to radioactive elements in the water we'll live next to Fukushima or Chernobyl
• 29:22
  we're getting it from the water like where i live right now here in San Diego the radioactive
• 29:26
  elements of 10x in the last few years in our municipal water there is no way i would drink this water
• 29:33
  even filtered i i require myself to distill it so that i know i'm not robbing my body of energy
• 29:41
  over the next few years so when you're just still in the water that removes everything i'm even the
• 29:46
  if there's fluoride does it do all that correct and that's a really good example fluoride is a
• 29:52
  very teeny tiny toxin and most filters are not good at getting out fluoride even fluoride specific
• 30:00
  filters only reduce the parts per million they can't take it all the way out because it's
• 30:05
  so teeny tiny so distillation is a great way to do it don't believe me take your filtered water
• 30:11
  right now that you you whatever you're currently filtering it put it into your distiller for a
• 30:15
  week and then look at the bottom of that distiller and tell me if you want to drink the sludge at
• 30:20
  the bottom and if you don't like this experiment send the distiller back to amazon they have a 30 day
• 30:27
  return policy i will go even further and say the people that are like why have fancy reverse
• 30:32
  osmosis and we really saved up for that and i felt great about that i wish i felt great about it for
• 30:38
  you too but unfortunately reverse osmosis filters mold and your tanks can become back
• 30:43
  contaminated with bacteria and there is no way to clean that up so it's a very expensive health
• 30:51
  to make so again distillation filters out mold too so water where would you move next what
• 30:59
  would be the next focus i would make your bedroom emf free so that your body can sleep deeply
• 31:08
  and heal and detox and drain while you're unconscious because that's what you're supposed to do
• 31:14
  want to get back to ancestral ways of being you know healing while using the benefits of modern tech
• 31:21
  i'm on a laptop right now i have a cell phone but i don't let them anywhere near me while i'm sleeping
• 31:27
  because i need that time to heal so get the electronics out of the bedroom um you can get emf
• 31:33
  meters so that you can see where your exposures are coming from they're coming from you sweetheart
• 31:38
  unplug your smart tv even when it's turned off it will continue to radiate a very strong
• 31:45
  life i signal at you unless you unplug it so stick it on a power strip hit that power strip you
• 31:52
  know power button on the way to bed like reduce the stress on your body and you will heal faster
• 31:59
  and by the way people start kicking out parasites on parasite cleanses a whole lot faster
• 32:04
  when they do emf their bedrooms yeah i've heard you talk about how there's your body voltage
• 32:11
  which i had never heard you know used before and were bio electrical beings most of the biohacking
• 32:19
  community is about measuring all these biological you know points but they're all using
• 32:30
  something that's electrical to do it right whether it's sleep you know beds that make
• 32:36
  themselves colder or beds that have sleep numbers or devices you wear from rings to pendants that
• 32:44
  are tracking you through you know but they're all electrical it's very frustrating but if you
• 32:50
  want to use something like an or a ring for example you can turn off the bluetooth so it's still
• 32:55
  capturing data for you and then you can hook it up and download that information when you don't
• 33:00
  feel good it's really hard to understand your body's own signals because there's so much
• 33:04
  this background noise and your brain's moving slow and you get overwhelmed and irritated easily
• 33:09
  so i get it it's really helpful to see your data reflected back to you i just want to make sure
• 33:16
  that you're not frying yourself alive while you're gathering that data let's just say you're waking
• 33:20
  up at two in the morning which i think a lot of people in their fifties and beyond this happens to
• 33:24
  you know whereas you used to sleep through the night suddenly you now just no matter what happens
• 33:28
  you keep waking up at two in the morning you're trying to do all the things you know if you dark in
• 33:34
  your room you're trying to be mindful of waking up early getting some sun you're you're checking your
• 33:40
  hormone levels but ultimately it's like you just feel like you're constantly up against the wall
• 33:46
  because you just need sleep and of course there's also the the monkey brain you know that starts
• 33:51
  spinning out you find that thing that works which is maybe listening to a podcast because then
• 33:56
  it finally puts you sleep so how do we like navigate this kind of laziness slash kind of like
• 34:02
  i'm just overwhelmed i don't know where to go with this to like i also just need the bare
• 34:08
  essential i just need to sleep i totally get that when you have the bandwidth i want you to ask
• 34:13
  yourself deeper questions why am i not sleeping through the night because one of the most common
• 34:18
  things i see that goes undiagnosed is low 80h so that's your anti diuretic hormone so you think
• 34:25
  oh i have to get up to pee that's why i'm not sleeping through the night but why do you have to get
• 34:31
  up to pee that didn't used to be a problem when you were younger when you've been exposed to molds
• 34:36
  that naturally suppresses your body's ability to make 80h so have you been exposed to mold recently
• 34:46
  or in the past and is that finally coming due because of other factors and would you benefit from
• 34:52
  a multi-tox should you do an army test and check on the health of your house you know those might be
• 34:58
  worth deeper looks for you but other reasons might be just you know going back to what's on
• 35:03
  your plate like what we were talking about earlier we accidentally eat too late so we haven't
• 35:07
  let our body finish digesting by the time we try to go to sleep and that's really tough because
• 35:13
  your body doesn't want to be digesting when you're asleep it wants to be detoxing and repairing
• 35:18
  so we need to make sure we're not eating at least two three hours before we go to bed and that
• 35:23
  we're using our nighttime routine to restore our circadian rhythm and for people who you know like
• 35:29
  to think themselves as biohackers even baby biohackers you might like you know blue light blockers
• 35:35
  like those red glasses that are so cool my favorites are raw optics because i know that they're
• 35:40
  they're made to really filter out the right frequencies or you might put flux on your computer
• 35:46
  so that you can watch something at night and relax but not pay the price for it with your sleep later
• 35:52
  flux is a free download you know and it will sink your computer's appearance its colors and wavelengths
• 35:59
  to your zip code and the time of year and the time of day that your son is supposed to be going down
• 36:05
  and shifting your brain so these are simple things you can do to set up your nighttime routine to
• 36:11
  really protect a deeper quality of sleep and then yeah i'm not against melatonin to support you
• 36:18
  because we're not making enough of it right now i'm not concerned about you having a melatonin
• 36:23
  dependency over time especially in this day and age with all these circadian disruptors what i
• 36:30
  want is for you to reclaim deep sleep as fast as possible so that your body can catch up and use
• 36:36
  all these smart choices that you're trying to make all these you know hard changes for yourself
• 36:40
  during the day use them more efficiently at night so you can heal faster starting right away
• 36:45
  and then you probably won't need the melatonin later honestly one of the things i think people
• 36:51
  run up against is timeline like i think we clearly live in a world now where we expect things to
• 36:56
  happen faster i mean even on a certain level i think this is so funny and i think we're both old
• 37:01
  enough to remember this is that back in the day when your plane would land people would clap like
• 37:05
  it was a cool thing like oh my god we just flew across the us this is still a big deal and now it's
• 37:11
  like there's nothing you and i are right now are talking you know we are thousands of miles away
• 37:18
  from each other and i can see you you can see me and it's within seconds you know the responses
• 37:23
  right there's hardly any delay and yet this was unheard of back in the day right so we expect
• 37:29
  things to happen immediately obviously everybody is different i know we can't you know have a blanket
• 37:36
  timeline but is there a general timeline that you can you've seen in your practice that can support
• 37:42
  people and having you know just expectations around hey if i go down this path and you got to be
• 37:47
  in it for minimum six months or what would you say is this the timeline for real health issues
• 37:52
  we have to remember we lived our way into them and the bill is coming do now we're going to live our
• 37:58
  way out of them you can try to suppress you know a migraine with migraine medication but you cannot
• 38:05
  eradicate the reason for the migraine that fast you know the reasons for migraines are like mold
• 38:10
  just pick on it one more time you know migraines are often drainage driven let's give
• 38:15
  ourselves six months to make some serious progress and for people who have been ill for decades
• 38:21
  you're going to need two years to get all the way back to feeling really really good and
• 38:26
  i think if someone had told me that and had given me the right steps in the right order i could have
• 38:31
  withstood it but because i was this one session with some functional medicine celebrity only to
• 38:37
  feel not heard by them you know i'd have to wait six months to get in or the seven day gut cleanses
• 38:43
  and then feel like a total failure because i didn't feel good afterwards or 30 whole days on
• 38:48
  something you have to get smarter as a consumer than that and realize that what you want to be
• 38:53
  doing is learning tools that you can fold into your day whether it's a quick switch fast fix
• 38:59
  now i've switched from this thing to this thing from an a teflon pan to a stainless steel or
• 39:03
  something like that it's just a one-time thought process but now i'm speeding at my body's
• 39:08
  healing and then these little habits that we fold in i want six months with you to make some
• 39:13
  serious progress on your health if you have a very real health issue but the good news is
• 39:20
  you can learn all the health factors that speed up healing or slow it down and you are actually
• 39:25
  in charge of all of them you can ignore me about the emf stuff but you'll heal slower if you want
• 39:30
  to speed things up dive into the emf piece make yourself up your bedroom of an emf sanctuary
• 39:38
  you can change what's on your plate or you can ignore it because you have a history of eating
• 39:42
  disorders like i do and you don't want to be told what to do fine but you're gonna heal slower
• 39:47
  that's okay though it's your choice it's your body your sovereignty does such a powerful point
• 39:54
  you've to be talking about detox and you've really been coming at it from a very consistent language
• 39:59
  which is do it slowly like that it doesn't it's not about quick quick detox is not about that i
• 40:05
  love to dive into what we talked about earlier which was around the liver and detoxification
• 40:12
  there's a lot of emphasis within your practice on the liver so can you talk about that?
• 40:17
  yeah i think it's important that we remember that the liver is plays a central role in every aspect
• 40:21
  of digestion where every macro needs the liver's help to digest proteins fats and carbs
• 40:30
  so your liver is you're inextricably like fit into your digestion there's no way to separate it out
• 40:38
  we think about gut problems and energy problems and like oh it all starts in the gut well the
• 40:44
  liver is a part of the gut it's crazy to think that it's separate so i want everybody to remember
• 40:49
  that and yeah the liver is best known for detox and yeah we're living in a weird day and age where
• 40:57
  we're getting exposures to a lot of things we didn't consent to and so yes your body might
• 41:03
  still your liver might still be working on that acutane you took as a teenager but it's not because
• 41:09
  your liver is not efficient it is and it's super regenerative like it's so good at healing
• 41:14
  itself it's just it didn't get enough targeted support to finish that process and catch up we have
• 41:20
  to acknowledge there's a bunch of different inputs that would slow down the liver's amazing
• 41:25
  ability to heal itself but that doesn't mean your fragile and doesn't mean it's too late
• 41:30
  so i really dislike the way people are talking about detox in this day and age because
• 41:35
  they're talking about it like one like you don't know how to do it yes you do
• 41:40
  you're an amazing detoxer so is your liver or you'd already be dead you know this is just about
• 41:46
  providing strategic support to help your body catch up to the backlog and that self-talk really
• 41:53
  matters please stop you know spending money on the DNA companies are just selling you something
• 42:00
  and giving yourself more laundry list of reasons to be afraid of your own body you are alive for
• 42:07
  a reason your body's really really smart it's on your side it wants to feel good and it's not too
• 42:12
  late i love working on the liver because it's so responsive if you're impatient or brain foggy or
• 42:20
  you have sensitivity to fats or a little bit more histamine sensitive than you used to be or you
• 42:24
  wake up in the middle of the night or your skin is acting as a second liver you know because you're
• 42:29
  rashi and aging you fast forward you might have adult acting might be super frustrating right
• 42:34
  bloating constipation these are all signs that you might need some liver support but we're not
• 42:40
  going to milk fissile our way out of this toxic problem we want to be a little bit smarter than that
• 42:48
  the era of milk fissile is over which is i loved it as an herbalist
• 42:54
  so how would you recommend if someone wants to start going in the path of detoxification what are
• 42:59
  some first steps in that realm good news is we're already covered one of them distilled water
• 43:04
  second thing i would think about is making sure that you're pooping every day
• 43:09
  sitting on the loons well that is true though when you poop daily you know you that you should be
• 43:14
  celebrating it's totally celebratory worry this is probably TMI but because i had got issues for
• 43:21
  so many years and such so much bad negative self-talk i had to redo that whole thing so now i
• 43:26
  talked to my body like it's an innocent animal because it is one and i tell my body good job
• 43:31
  every time i have a bowel movement like a job bud you know you did it i think that's important
• 43:38
  like it's absolutely celebratory worry why would you not be eliminating fully daily because you're
• 43:46
  your bile isn't moving fast enough you're not releasing enough bile into the small intestine
• 43:51
  you're not getting enough support for that migrating motor complex in the gut itself in the small
• 43:56
  intestine your food is fermenting parasites are slowing it down because they want more time to
• 44:00
  feed these are all really good reasons to have trouble pooping so you don't want to add in liver
• 44:07
  support and try to speed up the liver if the pathway to the exits is blocked that's not going to
• 44:13
  feel good for you in a way if you ever crashed on something that was supposed to be liver supportive
• 44:18
  you're like i thought i was doing something good but i felt bad that's really normal really normal
• 44:24
  because you didn't know to do these other pieces first so i like to make sure you're eliminating daily
• 44:30
  you can do that with some simple magnesium you know um i like ozone and magnesium because
• 44:36
  something like oxy powder or you know something like that because it's going to help your
• 44:42
  colon to get energized enough to release all pockets of junk and that's going to help you just
• 44:48
  in and of itself just one bottle about you know it's not something to stay dependent on you can't get
• 44:54
  form a dependence on it which is nice so move your bowels daily and then i like to add in
• 45:00
  bile builders and bile movers because bile is now sounds so gross but it is so magical it's your
• 45:07
  liquid gold detergent for your body your body wants to reuse it over and over again um to flush out
• 45:13
  toxins and to clean things up and to help you absorb your fats which are crucial for your brain
• 45:18
  and your hormone health how would someone know if they need that it would they be like because
• 45:24
  i always tell people like one of the best things we can do is go to the bathroom and then turn around
• 45:28
  and look at it you know and actually see what's coming out of your body so if you have gray or
• 45:33
  floating stool or if you strain it all or if you feel like you do a bowel movement but it's not
• 45:38
  complete or um if you're not eliminating daily and feeling complete those are all really good
• 45:44
  reasons to not just do bowel support but add in a bile mover and um you know you talked about
• 45:50
  HCL at the beginning and just basics of digestion um if we're depleted in nutrients and our bile
• 45:58
  isn't moving fast enough then we're gonna have not enough stomach acid and we're not gonna have
• 46:04
  enough those micronutrients that we have to have to build healthy bile so it would make sense
• 46:10
  that just for a period of time while you're helping your body catch up you'll need to add those
• 46:14
  back in in an intentional way so i like tadka for that if you can tolerate it because it is the
• 46:20
  king of bowel movers and bowel builders but if you want to just start with some bitters some herbal
• 46:26
  bitters before a meal it helps your body by telling your body hey you guess what we're gonna be eating
• 46:32
  soon so we want to get our gastric juices flowing bile you need to get ready to move we're gonna
• 46:38
  do a full meal we're gonna really break it down we're gonna do a good job let's get ready guys
• 46:43
  and we've lost those signals in this modern era because we don't have we're not smelling our food
• 46:49
  as we cook it and thinking about it and salivating and getting everything moving we're just pulling
• 46:56
  something out of the fridge or it's coming on door dash heating it really fast and we start and
• 47:00
  there's no warning for the body so of course digestion isn't going to be able to use its ancestral
• 47:06
  strategies so bitters is a great way to start reclaiming what's an example some bitters like
• 47:11
  you're just talking about whether where they put it them in the water correct yeah i you can find
• 47:16
  um you know bitters in your organic grocery store you know in this supplement aisle i like
• 47:24
  um better to x from quick silver that's my favorite um just put it a little squirt under the
• 47:30
  tongue 20 minutes before you eat but if you forget and then do it halfway through a meal it'll
• 47:34
  still work it'll still really really help what about apple cider vinegar i have a hard time with
• 47:39
  apple cider vinegar because it's not good for everybody with gut issues so i wouldn't do like a blanket
• 47:46
  statement about it um you know what's great about apple cider vinegar is it contains natural
• 47:51
  compounds that break down glyphosate and it is naturally restorative to somebody who already
• 47:57
  has a mostly healthy gut but if you don't feel good on it that's not your fault and it doesn't
• 48:02
  mean the apple cider vinegar is bad it's just wrong tool for the chapter that you're in
• 48:08
  we're running close to time and i this is all bringing up one method we actually haven't talked
• 48:15
  about was which is like alkaline water movement you know those waters are selling about alkalinity
• 48:21
  and then acidity they're just in general the topic around that and i think there's a lot of
• 48:26
  misunderstanding as well would you dive into that briefly and just kind of share your
• 48:31
  perspective on do these alkaline waters are they worth anything should be we we be worried about
• 48:37
  acidity or alkalinity with the foods weater or the state of our body i think it's a total scam
• 48:44
  and a total waste of money and i'm really bummed out that it's still trend
• 48:51
  we want enough stomach acid in the stomach to actually ward off pathogens and help break down
• 49:00
  your food if you don't have enough acid in your stomach so a low enough pH your food will
• 49:07
  arrive in your small intestine ready to rot and bugs will have escaped into a very delicate
• 49:15
  environment that's not okay you want your body managing your pH that is not something you will
• 49:21
  win at micromanaging for your body so your body uses acidity as a tool at the cellular level and
• 49:28
  every part of your body has a different pH requirement for itself depending on the state of
• 49:33
  health that it's in your body will actually create acidity manufacture it in certain parts of the
• 49:40
  body in your tissues to help detox and use it as a solvent to flush out bad stuff you are not going
• 49:48
  to win at micromanaging that what about electrolytes no do you like alkaline water did i just heard
• 49:55
  your feelings oh no no no i'm not an alkaline guy but i definitely i my thing is i don't absorb water
• 50:02
  no matter what blood tests historically have taken i'm always showing up dehydrated even though
• 50:08
  i carry around a huge bottle water so i'm clearly not absorbing the water very well that i drink
• 50:14
  which actually makes me wonder about the whole distilled water okay maybe some tips about that
• 50:17
  of course okay so distill your water because toxins are super dehydrating
• 50:23
  and it's really hard to absorb water that has toxins in it even a small amount
• 50:28
  so then what i would do is add in a few double helix drops for you because it will help
• 50:34
  organize the water clusters i want you to read because you're nerdy so i know you can do this
• 50:39
  the fourth state of water by Gerald Pollock right learn about the exclusions on water because your
• 50:46
  body wants water to already be coherent enough by the time it gets into you that it can actually
• 50:54
  go to use and your body will actually turn water into a gel that's the fourth state of water
• 50:59
  i want you to add in a couple of things triormous minerals from global healing center
• 51:05
  that's a fun one and i also want you to get a mold test because it's very hard for you to absorb
• 51:11
  water if you have any mold body burden yeah we were exposed to mold when we first moved to
• 51:17
  Massachusetts we already know that that's right i remember that yeah so those are some things to
• 51:21
  consider um and you can also use an anlema one or some structuring device look on the anlema
• 51:29
  website on the studies they've done about structured water that's really interesting these are all
• 51:34
  really good tips but most people are focusing and being told to do electrolytes for absorption
• 51:39
  what's your thought on that i like electrolytes a lot um i think that they are really important
• 51:44
  most of them out there or junk um they're poorly made so some of the more popular companies
• 51:49
  i invite you all to take a fresh look at the labels and make sure you're comfortable and understand
• 51:54
  what they're putting in there so i'd rather you use real electrolytes like optimal electrolytes
• 51:59
  is a good one and if all you can afford is just a pinch of salt in your water that's a great place
• 52:05
  to start i like Jacobs insult from Oregon because it is the lowest in heavy metals that has been
• 52:12
  tested so that's something to consider as well and we've covered so much um and i know there's
• 52:19
  so much more we could cover but is there something that you're very passionate about that you
• 52:23
  want to make sure that the listener leaves with from this interview or if you said everything you
• 52:28
  would hope to say what i want to do is recap for everybody because it can feel like a lot um but
• 52:34
  you're the CEO of your own health and you get to decide whether or not you're overwhelmed by
• 52:39
  this conversation or empowered by it i want you to feel really good about the decisions you make
• 52:45
  for your own body because you are worth it you're not you don't have to earn taking care of yourself
• 52:52
  and being good to yourself and it's totally okay if you've been living on junk food until now like
• 52:58
  it's never too late to turn this around like i am not the food police i'm the person that
• 53:04
  should never have been able to heal myself so don't ever feel bad hanging out with me because
• 53:09
  i did all kinds of dumb stuff to my body and just expected to get away with it you know i have
• 53:13
  you know a drinking problem and i lived on carbs and you know i just didn't want to have to
• 53:19
  take anywhere responsibility for this but i have to tell you it feels so so good to feel at home
• 53:25
  in your own body and you deserve that it feels so good to feel like yourself again your process how
• 53:32
  long to do that and that being was that i mean you went from the bottom of the barrel there right
• 53:37
  you didn't even go into as much intensity that you went through of course but do you feel like no
• 53:43
  i'm really in better or you still is it still attorney oh i think as long as we have bodies we
• 53:48
  had to take care of them like i was totally symptom free and then i got long covid and accidentally
• 53:53
  lived in black mold again and i lost a lot of family members all in a row and the combination of
• 53:58
  that trauma and those toxins i gained a lot of weight and you know i still was really in my body
• 54:05
  you know and i was able to make good decisions for myself but i had to work hard to come back from
• 54:09
  that you know so will i will i be symptom free forever well hopefully as long as i do my work
• 54:17
  right um but i don't have to think about it when i'm not worried about i'm not afraid i think to
• 54:22
  the power of this conversation uh particularly this piece is also that it's not a destination it's
• 54:29
  not like you just you you're gonna end up somewhere and then you're done it's like it's you're always
• 54:34
  evolving there's always new tools but the key is you're empowered you're in control of your health
• 54:41
  and you're not outsourcing it to someone else and i think you um really encapsulated that beautifully
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  i have a final question that i um i ask everyone if you could wave a magic wand bring back one
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  ancestral practice what would it be and why seeing everything around us is alive
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  every tree every plant every animal every blade of grass the clouds the rivers the oceans
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  everything has energy and a liveness to it and i think we knew that when we spent more time
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  outside and we never felt alone or isolated and our default state was one of being presence
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  and reverent of all of this magic around us and i think that's what we're hardwired to be
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  is present and reverent of our own bodies and of all the aliveness around us and you would never
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  feel alone if you remember that that is your true nature i really appreciate your time
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  sincere and i just love talking to you like i i genuinely could have a whole series just talking
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  to you about this stuff but luckily you already created a series can you talk about how people
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  can work with you or what kind of steps they can take to gain even more knowledge from from
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  yeah you can come hang out with us at detoxnation.com it's a home movement um you know got almost
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  200,000 people now which is so amazing keeping each other company on this health journey and
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  can hang out with me on instagram sing clear canale and you can hang out with us on youtube for
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  more detox nation content and we'd love to have you i'd like to break this stuff down but i
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  also want to give you the depth that it takes for you to feel totally in control of your future
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  and james i just adore you i really appreciate any manufacturer that helps ancestral practices
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  come into the modern era and i know how hard you have to work behind the scenes to make really
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  tough choices to protect the quality of your food and to support all these hardworking families
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  out there that just need a little bit of help reclaiming who they really are so i really appreciate
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