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LETS TALK ABOUT IT | SEASON 2 DA CREW PODCAST| HOST SHANETTE W JOHNSON · DA CREW Podcast

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Speaker 1: In November and December eighteen sixty five, shortly after the
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Speaker 1: end of the Civil War, Southern States sought to control
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Speaker 1: their large populations of newly freed black people, laws were
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Speaker 1: passed authorizing the arrest and jailing of blacks. These laws
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Speaker 1: became known as black codes. They typically applied only to
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Speaker 1: blacks and criminalized acts that were not offenses when committed
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Speaker 1: by vice. On November twenty fourth, eighteen sixty five, Mississippi
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Speaker 1: passed a Black Code declaring that all freedmen, free negroes,
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Speaker 1: and mulattoes found without proof of employment or found unlawfully
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Speaker 1: assembling themselves would owe up to fifty dollars in fines
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Speaker 1: and serve up to ten days in jail. As a
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Speaker 1: result of Black Codes, the post Civil War era brought
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Speaker 1: American black citizens more contact with the criminal courts and
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Speaker 1: prison systems than ever before. As the former Confederacy learned
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Speaker 1: to use the criminal justice system as a tool of
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Speaker 1: racial control, countless Black men, women, and children were convicted
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Speaker 1: and sentenced under unjust laws that criminalized them for existing
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Speaker 1: as free black citizens.
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Speaker 2: Okay, good evening, We're gonna try something different this evening,
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Speaker 2: Cornell is going to help he's hosting tonight's show, and
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be his co host on tonight, So I'm
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Speaker 2: going to turn it over to Cornell.
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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, ma'am for having me on your show tonight,
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Speaker 3: Man tonight show, Let's talk about It. Good evening to
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Speaker 3: all of my listeners, and thank you very much for
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Speaker 3: joining us on tonight's show. My name is Cornell Drama,
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Speaker 3: experiences with the criminal justice system and the United States. However,
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Speaker 3: let's talk about it as a platform that seeks nothing
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Speaker 3: but the truth, freedom, justice and accountability for all. So
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Speaker 3: if you're just now Juleman enough, we would like to
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Speaker 3: point out that for the past few weeks we have
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Speaker 3: been talking about what's wrong with our criminal distic system
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Speaker 3: and how do we think. We talked about the juvenile
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Speaker 3: system and the psychological evaluation process. We talked about the
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Speaker 3: pre barkment system, and we talked about the law parties.
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Speaker 3: We invited us some tests to join us and to
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Speaker 3: share their experiences with us, but how they have been
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Speaker 3: effected by the criminal justicesm this past we invited a
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Speaker 3: female friend and medicinarian a Cohornt of the group podcast.
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Speaker 3: Her son, a seventeen year old named Antoine Roberts, only
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Speaker 3: had our history of psychological money disorders, was long to
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Speaker 3: be convicted in since twenty five years as a law party,
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Speaker 3: so a tack ofvated charge in the Atlanta chargia. He
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Speaker 3: did not commit because of the detail of the story. Please,
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Speaker 3: she just mind to the protest, So she got among
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Speaker 3: people together to try to find out what was going
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Speaker 3: home with her son. So why he was not given
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Speaker 3: up psychological evaluation while was a crime that he did
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Speaker 3: not commit. Well, this a the judge in this case,
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Speaker 3: because so he ended up transferring to another distant course,
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Speaker 3: but not as a result of the protest. So as
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Speaker 3: a result of this here it is subsequently another complaint
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Speaker 3: was poled with him by a white fet male who
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Speaker 3: had been raped and killed. Well, a right skill was
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Speaker 3: to sak Kim about had been rased. What had happened
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Speaker 3: is that the individual who committed the crime against her
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Speaker 3: she was let go the little to her knowledge. She
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Speaker 3: did not realize that until she realized that this county
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Speaker 3: and new judges was dropping this missing cases against defendents
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Speaker 3: without their knowledge. So now here he is come to line.
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Speaker 3: Now the judge was just placed because from a budget cut.
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Speaker 3: Now because the complaint filed against him by this individual,
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Speaker 3: nor the complaint found by Medicinaria about her son being
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Speaker 3: wrong to give convicted for a crime he did not commit.
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Speaker 3: The problem with tes Raham is that our system is
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Speaker 3: broken and that he is and beginnings of being wrong
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Speaker 3: with convicted as a result of you know, proxcutments comes
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Speaker 3: a judge, donation campaigns, and all of these problems are
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Speaker 3: affected our criminal justice system. So with this being said
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Speaker 3: to any figure of Antoninium, you know he should not
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Speaker 3: affect convicted because he was never given as psychological evaluation
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Speaker 3: and other prosecuted. You have to see men in the
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Speaker 3: comp stand trials. So what happened is that his elia
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Speaker 3: knews that he was initially incompetent and fails to follow
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Speaker 3: emotion for a competency hearing. The judge had a duty
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Speaker 3: to burn emotion to the county tradition order for a
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Speaker 3: psychological evaluations. Here, the literati, we know this judge had
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Speaker 3: a history of being racial against as Americans. From now,
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Speaker 3: with this being said, to just hold mister Antonio Robertson,
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Speaker 3: but he was going to make an example out of him.
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Speaker 3: Why because mister Roberts refused to be guilty for acquirement,
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Speaker 3: did not commit lo and behold that the Roberts Prince
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Speaker 3: her jery card and was found guilty and given the
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Speaker 3: mac Cone punishment of twenty five years. So now with
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Speaker 3: just being said, we have a problem when I come
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Speaker 3: on justice system, Well, racism is playing a major role
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Speaker 3: and how certain individuals are being processed to I combat.
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Speaker 3: So the question is got two different criminal justice systems,
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Speaker 3: one for back to one for white. Yes, it is,
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Speaker 3: so I would like to turn it off to my
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Speaker 3: cohorts if you have any questions regardless matter.
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Speaker 2: Well, I just got a message from Shamiria. She's going
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Speaker 2: to be joining us tonight. We're just waiting on her
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Speaker 2: to come on. And I seen a couple of videos
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Speaker 2: she's sending me a couple of videos of the protesting
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Speaker 2: that they did on behalf of her, her son, her nephew,
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Speaker 2: and some other young man's And one of the videos.
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Speaker 4: It shook me up. I heard a mother say a
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Speaker 4: say that her son was standing around with his hands
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Speaker 4: in his pocket.
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Speaker 2: The video showed that he wasn't doing anything and that
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Speaker 2: you know, it's just shows said her son just standing
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Speaker 2: there with his hands in his pocket and Judge pat
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Speaker 2: Patrick sentenced him for standing around with his hands in
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Speaker 2: his pocket. I'm just reenterate that because I couldn't get
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Speaker 2: over it the sentence.
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Speaker 4: And I know you guys probably being disbeliefed as I was.
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Speaker 4: He sentenced that child.
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Speaker 2: With four forty five years for standing around with his
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Speaker 2: hands in his pockets.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 2: But the other person, you know a lot of people say,
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Speaker 2: is that race doesn't play a part of it. Race
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Speaker 2: do plays a big part of it. Because the other
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Speaker 2: person that was involved, or that was around, or the
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Speaker 2: main person was white. I believe he was juvenile and
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Speaker 2: the judge, Judge Pratchett showed him leanency. How do you
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Speaker 2: how do you get forty five years standing around with
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Speaker 2: your with your hands in your pockets?
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Speaker 3: Hm M that's.
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Speaker 4: Your accordion? Are you here forty five years with your
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Speaker 4: hands in your pocket?
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Speaker 3: Lam The issue with that process, LAMB, is the fact
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Speaker 3: that we have these judges who feel like they are
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Speaker 3: above the laws. Wow. Because the judge cannot be food
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Speaker 3: and anything they do cannot be questions. So if a
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Speaker 3: complaint is filed against the judge in this instance, like
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Speaker 3: the state right here, then a complaint supposed to be
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Speaker 3: processed through judicial conduct for me. But because these people
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Speaker 3: have been getting to wait for this, with this the
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Speaker 3: so so so long. Now no foldity is reporting these judges,
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Speaker 3: but finding reporting these district attorneys to file a reporting.
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Speaker 3: The willis listen in Atlantic, we show them the criminal
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Speaker 3: justice system is a laulti trillion dollars enterprise, man, and
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Speaker 3: that over seventy million peoples are tied up and incorcerated
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Speaker 3: without within our criminal justice system, either on paroles, proprobation
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Speaker 3: or locked up in our system.
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Speaker 4: With this being said, now that has to.
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Speaker 3: Be a modern apparel. With thousands of individuals being wrong
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Speaker 3: for convictable climes they did not commit, thousands of that
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Speaker 3: indigital being denied the rights of border to them by
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Speaker 3: the United States conspetition. Let's attorney as an example of
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Speaker 3: that man the de City would have a history as
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Speaker 3: a kid for having psychological number problems, and the judge
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Speaker 3: him had no concerns at whether or not he was
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Speaker 3: constant enough to stand cloud and as an adult down
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Speaker 3: for what the fan said. He did not even commit
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Speaker 3: the count. He was just there. So he serted twenty
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Speaker 3: five years just because the court failed to protect his
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Speaker 3: rights to do process and be protective of the laws.
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Speaker 3: So this is what we got a problem of judges,
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Speaker 3: lawyers and district attorneys not selling their jobs.
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Speaker 2: Now, well, well, in a minute, I'm trying to see
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Speaker 2: wait for Samaria to come up, and so we can
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Speaker 2: play that video where we will see the same judge
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Speaker 2: that sentenced Samiria's son and gave the young man forty
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Speaker 2: five years for standing around with his hands in his pocket.
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Speaker 2: How he dismissed over one hundred I believe the article
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Speaker 2: say over a thousand cases that he got rid of.
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Speaker 4: On that they some mysteriously disappeared. And within this while.
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Speaker 2: Samiria we had a conversation, she was telling me that,
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Speaker 2: you know, Channel six out there came and interviewed them
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Speaker 2: while they was protesting out there, but none of their
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Speaker 2: footage got played. It was not brought up in the newspaper,
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Speaker 2: it was not played on it was not televised or anything.
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Speaker 2: But here you have this young lady talking about her case,
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Speaker 2: her talking about her case, and it's televised.
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Speaker 4: And you know, and I don't. I just don't get that.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: The more I research and the more I see, the
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Speaker 2: more I learned about our criminal justice system. Already knew
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Speaker 2: it wasn't created for us because of how I seen
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Speaker 2: it when my son went into the system. You know,
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Speaker 2: start he got. My son got his first case as
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Speaker 2: a juvenile and it was at school. His teacher, a
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Speaker 2: white lady. I'm gonna just put it out there. You
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Speaker 2: can call me whatever you want to call me, but
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna just put it out there. She we had
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Speaker 2: a meeting one day and my son was in I
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Speaker 2: believe he was in he was in the twelfth grade.
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Speaker 4: No, he was in eleventh grade.
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Speaker 2: And the lady said to me, where I live at,
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Speaker 2: people people want to know why your son have don't
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Speaker 2: have a probation officers.
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Speaker 4: That's what that woman told me.
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Speaker 5: So I kid you, not.
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Speaker 2: Less than two weeks later, my son behind her because
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Speaker 2: she said she was in fear of her life, that
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Speaker 2: my son has threatened her. He's threatened to go out there.
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Speaker 2: I put her car on the flat and.
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Speaker 4: Whatever.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: That's that's what she told the school and my son
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Speaker 2: was arrested and that's when he got his first probation officer,
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Speaker 2: experienced juvenile.
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Speaker 4: Hall when he was in eleventh grade. I mean, we
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Speaker 4: go through so much.
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Speaker 2: As parents to try to keep our kids on a
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Speaker 2: straight and narrow have teachers or whatever wrote, you know,
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Speaker 2: tarnishing their their future. And that's what I believe she
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Speaker 2: did to my son. Samiria is here. Hello, Samiria, How
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Speaker 2: are you good?
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Speaker 6: How you guys doing tonight?
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Speaker 4: Doing good? You know we we and me and Corney
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Speaker 4: talk about.
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Speaker 2: Your son's case and your nephew's case all week.
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Speaker 4: And I mean.
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Speaker 2: We just been talking. So I know Cornell want to
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Speaker 2: jump in and he have a couple of questions, and
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Speaker 2: you know, I just want.
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Speaker 4: I just wanted to say this, did the judge? I mean,
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Speaker 4: I know I heard what I said, and I just
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Speaker 4: lady child forty five years?
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Speaker 6: We just with her with hands and in uh huh yeap,
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Speaker 6: that same yeap, that same.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I can hear you.
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Speaker 3: Can you hear me?
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Speaker 4: I can hear you now?
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Speaker 6: Okay, yes, that same judge that sentence my son also
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Speaker 6: sentenced another lady's son and gave him forty five years,
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Speaker 6: just with hope, just with his hands in his pocket,
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Speaker 6: just because he was there, I guess with the other guys.
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Speaker 6: But on the camera it shows that the guy that
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Speaker 6: her son had his hands in his pockets and the
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Speaker 6: judge still gave him forty five years Yep, the same job.
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yes, and you and these other mothers written
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Speaker 3: wise that with you that the judice was not planned
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Speaker 3: by the group. Okay, and you you are you the
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Speaker 3: one who initiated it the doorsteps of the courthouse.
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Speaker 6: We well, I actually tried a lot of different things
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Speaker 6: about the judge, but everybody's kept knocking me down. And
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Speaker 6: I would go to the courthouse and try to talk
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Speaker 6: to someone who's higher than him, which I know now
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Speaker 6: that I understand that, you know a lot of times
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Speaker 6: you have to do paperwork. You can't just go in
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Speaker 6: the courthouse like that and and want to talk to uh,
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Speaker 6: that judge his boss over him. So we I tried.
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Speaker 6: I think the other ladies tried a lot of different
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Speaker 6: things on this same judge. But something about this judge
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Speaker 6: that a lot of people were scared, they were scared
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Speaker 6: of and they wouldn't go against him.
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Speaker 3: Okay. On the journey about this judge. To know that
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Speaker 3: y'all had a case that y'all can policy complaint with
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Speaker 3: the Judicial Committee about the judgment. Did anybody give y'all
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Speaker 3: that information?
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Speaker 6: No, nobody never gave us that information and never told
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Speaker 6: us those things.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So as of right now, now here's what the
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Speaker 3: situation is with your your SIF case and other cases.
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Speaker 3: Right now, what we're going to end up doing, Lamb
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Speaker 3: petitions for new child for all of these studios. Why
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Speaker 3: because of the effect that you have a lot of
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Speaker 3: people who are making the same complaints about the judge.
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Speaker 3: Because of that, the administrative judt your regional anti county
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Speaker 3: we have a stated duty and his duty is to
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Speaker 3: submit a plaint the Judicial Conduct Committee. So well as
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Speaker 3: of right now, Lamb, that playing to steal a balance
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Speaker 3: from plain Why because you and because the mothers have
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Speaker 3: the same complaint. Now, as for your son, I don't
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Speaker 3: know what paper he fall in court man's process that
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Speaker 3: if you get a direct to you if you get
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Speaker 3: eleven or seven or whatever. But as of right now,
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Speaker 3: he cannot be in tex in the prison system. Now
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Speaker 3: the section we cannot be in the prison system why
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Speaker 3: because he was denied of his rights to a psychologic
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Speaker 3: evaluation and a competency here by that jedge. So now
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Speaker 3: for anybody who would denying of that same, whether they black, white,
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Speaker 3: queen or whatever, all of these cases are no good
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Speaker 3: now because they would deny the Supreme Court precedent of
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Speaker 3: a psychological evaluation. So as of now, with that process,
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Speaker 3: now you have a standing right now that you can
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Speaker 3: speak to have a petition grown up for your son
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Speaker 3: to be if a new trial. If anybody that's listens
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Speaker 3: to this, if they stuned in the same position, uh huhm.
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Speaker 3: But they said in the same position that it is
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Speaker 3: the very same fact. Mm hmmm for United States constitutional
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Speaker 3: rights man.
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Speaker 6: Wow, yeah, I mean we worked so hard at it,
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Speaker 6: and I gathered all those mothers up because I time
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Speaker 6: I couldn't hear.
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Speaker 2: You didn't one of the No, did your son followed
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Speaker 2: the direct appeal?
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Speaker 6: Mm hmm maam, my son would follow his own your
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Speaker 6: son follow director?
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Speaker 3: Then you appear his conviction to our court man, he did.
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Speaker 6: They deny him. They deny all his all his appeal
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Speaker 6: and it's said the part about it. He was in
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Speaker 6: a mental he was going through a crisis. Yeah, he
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Speaker 6: was going through a crisis, and they still denied.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well answer right, now, here's how we have to
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Speaker 3: get him back to court now. Okay, he found living
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Speaker 3: on seven I'm assuming.
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Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
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Speaker 3: Okay. And then he challenged his conviction once you're challenge
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Speaker 3: at one time. The only way that we can get
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Speaker 3: back up in the newly discovered information or evidence. So
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Speaker 3: now with this process we can always follow emotions. For
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Speaker 3: denim a fair child, denied psychological evaluation, and denied the
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Speaker 3: right sub competency here. So with that thing said, that's
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Speaker 3: where we're at right now. You and uh the Senate
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Speaker 3: and had a with on the part that's motion for
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Speaker 3: a new clown they supposed to Now that's an automatical
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Speaker 3: clown for him.
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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, Yeah, because they violated his his rights.
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Speaker 3: That you know, I sent you that that I.
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Speaker 2: That I found that you know, they violated his constitutional
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Speaker 2: right and Georgia's law.
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Speaker 3: That's you know.
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Speaker 4: They they was the judge.
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Speaker 2: Once you asked for them to have him evaluated, they
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Speaker 2: were supposed to honor that. They didn't what they dismissed it.
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Speaker 2: So once the judge dismissed it, then the violation of
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Speaker 2: his constitutional rights.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and not only that inside the courtroom when I was.
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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Samiria, I couldn't hear it, I.
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Speaker 6: Was saying inside the courtroom when my son was on trial,
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Speaker 6: after they made a ruling, the DA stand up, babe, man.
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Speaker 6: Oh Jesus, I thought somebody would coming in here, but
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Speaker 6: I'm home by my son. Yeah, oh Jesus, I'm sorry, y'all.
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Speaker 6: I just hurt my door open up like that and
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Speaker 6: I'm home by myself. So that was my Jesus. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: I'm good. So the D like I said, I'm sorry, y'all.
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Speaker 6: So the DA ended up standing up like I say,
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Speaker 6: it was all they was all white, it was. And
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Speaker 6: they the DA stand up in front of the in
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Speaker 6: front of my family and the judge, and this is
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Speaker 6: what she said her mouth. She looked at the judge
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Speaker 6: and told him make a zamp out of my son.
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Speaker 6: She told that in front of everybody in the courtroom,
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Speaker 6: told the judge to make a zamp out of them.
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Speaker 6: So the judge looked at her and said, and she said,
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Speaker 6: make a zamp out of them. Give them life. That's
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Speaker 6: just what she said. And the judge looked at her
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Speaker 6: and said, now, I ain't gonna give him life, but
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Speaker 6: I am gonna give him twenty five years. So they
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Speaker 6: played around with my son. They played around, and I found.
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Speaker 4: What was that Cordell?
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Speaker 3: Does she know if that statement right there was recorded
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Speaker 3: about the court reporter?
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Speaker 6: It was it was recorded by them.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was recorded.
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Speaker 3: Okay, good, that's a good point because see that statement, right,
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Speaker 3: there is a statement that you use about the biasness
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Speaker 3: of the judge.
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Speaker 6: Yep.
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Speaker 3: Why because the judge cannot make a statement makes the
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Speaker 3: form the district attorney's requests death because the if he
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Speaker 3: cannot content or take any information about what he would
28:49
Speaker 3: do you know, uh, make an example out of anybody.
28:52
Speaker 3: Why because you do not have a jury case.
28:55
Speaker 6: But they waited till the jury left to stay that
28:59
Speaker 6: didn't have a They just in front of the jury.
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Speaker 4: They did said in front of the jury, the jury,
29:15
Speaker 4: what was the makeup to us jury?
29:20
Speaker 3: Hum?
29:21
Speaker 6: There was older people, a lot of people, a lot
29:24
Speaker 6: of a lot of people was getting We've got to
29:29
Speaker 6: go to the commercial.
29:36
Speaker 7: It team cracking open cases of local judge slam shot
29:39
Speaker 7: before they ever made it to trial, Some.
29:41
Speaker 8: Just because they're old, others because the suspect was never arrested.
29:45
Speaker 6: And that's not all even our IDs.
29:47
Speaker 8: Meredith Anderson was surprised at what she uncovered when she
29:50
Speaker 8: took a deep dive into thousands of charges that basically disappeared.
29:55
Speaker 8: It all started with one case and a suspect on
29:57
Speaker 8: the run for years. The victim wanted to know how
30:00
Speaker 8: a judge could just dismiss his charges after a grand
30:03
Speaker 8: jury indicted him on two counts of child molestation. Turns
30:07
Speaker 8: out her case wasn't the only one closed. Thousands of
30:10
Speaker 8: other charges were wiped away too.
30:14
Speaker 6: It was just a hard knowing of not the only
30:17
Speaker 6: one in this situation now too.
30:21
Speaker 8: But aspen LeBlanc never once got upset talking to us
30:24
Speaker 8: about Edgardo Kosia. She forgave him years ago, not for him.
30:29
Speaker 6: Because he doesn't deserve it, but for myself because I
30:31
Speaker 6: couldn't keep harboring that hatred for him.
30:34
Speaker 8: But she can't forgive how a judge seemed ready to
30:37
Speaker 8: forgive both of his charges of molesting her when she
30:40
Speaker 8: was a little girl, because according to his order, nothing
30:44
Speaker 8: has happened with the case since twenty ten. There's been
30:47
Speaker 8: no trial. Cosia's never been arrested. It didn't take the
30:52
Speaker 8: Iteam long to find where he is, though he's pretty
30:55
Speaker 8: active on multiple Facebook pages. But we also found something else.
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Speaker 8: After sending open records requests to clerks of court in Richmond, Burke,
31:04
Speaker 8: and Columbia counties, we received lists of thousands of charges
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Speaker 8: connected to other cases all dismissed around the same time
31:13
Speaker 8: cosius charges were dropped. We had to go case by
31:16
Speaker 8: case and then comb through corresponding records, so it took
31:20
Speaker 8: us weeks to weed through them all. But early on
31:24
Speaker 8: we noticed a pattern. Got like ten Pagets right here,
31:27
Speaker 8: Judge Paget, Judge Paget, Judge Paget Pageant. Every single Superior
31:32
Speaker 8: Court case dismissal had the name of a single Superior
31:36
Speaker 8: Court judge, Judge Wade Pageant.
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Speaker 9: If you deserve to go to jail, you will go
31:43
Speaker 9: to jail.
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Speaker 8: News twelve sat down with Judge Paget in two thousand
31:46
Speaker 8: and nine when he was transitioning from Columbia County's Chief
31:49
Speaker 8: magistrate judge to a Superior Court judge.
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Speaker 9: The problem is is that I'm afraid sometimes we don't
31:56
Speaker 9: enforce what we say we're going to do. If we
31:59
Speaker 9: don't tend to enforce it, then don't say it. But
32:02
Speaker 9: if you say it in the courtroom, if you make
32:04
Speaker 9: it in order, I expect you to comply with it.
32:08
Speaker 9: And if you fail to comply with it, I take
32:10
Speaker 9: that very very seriously.
32:12
Speaker 8: But the Iteam found a number of cases where it
32:15
Speaker 8: appears Judge Paget did not comply with orders he or
32:19
Speaker 8: other judges made. Take Eric Duayne Bennett, for example, a
32:24
Speaker 8: twenty nineteen court transcript shows he was facing forty years
32:27
Speaker 8: in prison for drug trafficking and weapons charges, but Judge RYL.
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Speaker 8: Jolly put it on the dead docket or on pause
32:34
Speaker 8: for six years if and only if he met a
32:38
Speaker 8: number of strict conditions, like not getting arrested for violating
32:42
Speaker 8: any laws, moving out of the area, and turning in
32:45
Speaker 8: all weapons. The case could be closed on December thirty first,
32:49
Speaker 8: twenty twenty five. Well before that date, Judge Paget dismissed it,
32:55
Speaker 8: basically saying nothing has happened, so case closed. Just two
32:59
Speaker 8: weeks ago, Harlem police arrested Eric Dwayne Bennett on drug
33:04
Speaker 8: and weapons charges. His address is in the Augusta Judicial
33:09
Speaker 8: Circuit and that charge was for a stolen gun. Here's
33:13
Speaker 8: one for a twenty sixteen armed robbery, aggravated assault and
33:17
Speaker 8: weapons charge, dead docketed just a few months later after
33:20
Speaker 8: the victim didn't show up to court. Case closed. Three
33:26
Speaker 8: child molestation charges dead docketed on the promise the suspect
33:30
Speaker 8: would have no contact with the victims until December of
33:33
Speaker 8: twenty twenty one. Judge Paget signed the dismissal seven months
33:38
Speaker 8: before that, with the seemingly cut and paced response pretty
33:42
Speaker 8: much identical to other dead docket dismissals. One rape case
33:47
Speaker 8: was dismissed and the victim tells me no one ever
33:50
Speaker 8: told her, which, according to Georgia law, is supposed to
33:54
Speaker 8: happen aspen LeBlanc says no one told her her case
33:58
Speaker 8: was dismissed either. She called about it when she noticed
34:03
Speaker 8: Cosia no longer had an active warrant online.
34:06
Speaker 6: I'm not the same address that the current happened at,
34:10
Speaker 6: Like you're telling me you couldn't find me, Like I
34:13
Speaker 6: got married at that courthouse, like I'm there.
34:17
Speaker 8: Then there are dozens and dozens and dozens of cases
34:20
Speaker 8: the iteam counted and entered into a spreadsheet where suspects
34:24
Speaker 8: were indicted on everything from shoplifting to trafficking and manufacturing meth,
34:29
Speaker 8: but were never arrested, so you guessed it case closed.
34:34
Speaker 8: To be fair, there are a number of cases from
34:36
Speaker 8: the nineties involving misdemeanors or cases where the suspect has
34:40
Speaker 8: died or where victims no longer wanted to prosecute. But
34:43
Speaker 8: from what we found, those weren't the majority.
34:47
Speaker 3: Then, Mick, you lose faith in the system.
34:51
Speaker 4: Yeah.
34:54
Speaker 8: Judge Paget declined to interview with the ITEAM for this investigation,
34:58
Speaker 8: but his judicial assistance and the IT team several emails
35:01
Speaker 8: where Paget discussed his plan to get rid of old cases.
35:05
Speaker 8: In one memo dated April tenth, he answers the question why.
35:09
Speaker 8: Among his reasons the pandemic. He writes about lost work
35:13
Speaker 8: time due to COVID. He also references the fast approaching
35:17
Speaker 8: circuit split. In just a few months, Columbia County was
35:20
Speaker 8: set to break off from Richmond and Burke Counties in
35:23
Speaker 8: the AUGUSTA judicial circuit. Cleaning up the docket, he says,
35:27
Speaker 8: makes a great deal of sense. Judge Paget goes on
35:31
Speaker 8: to say the Superior Court judges all agreed that addressing
35:35
Speaker 8: the existing caseload in all three counties would be helpful.
35:39
Speaker 8: I volunteered for the assignment. While the ITEAM couldn't find
35:43
Speaker 8: any other judges listed on the emails sent to us,
35:47
Speaker 8: we did find one staff attorney for one other judge,
35:51
Speaker 8: Judge James Blanchard listed. Everyone else works for the public
35:55
Speaker 8: Defender's Office, Clerk of Court, Probation Office, District Attorney's Office,
36:00
Speaker 8: Court administration. Still this shows Judge Paget told multiple people
36:05
Speaker 8: he was doing this and even provided lists. He asked
36:09
Speaker 8: people to speak up if any cases should remain open.
36:13
Speaker 8: The Court administrator for the Augusta Judicial Circuit tells the
36:16
Speaker 8: IT team some cases had some discussion, but he doesn't
36:20
Speaker 8: remember anyone objecting to any of the cases being dismissed.
36:25
Speaker 3: Did someone just put a bunch of cases in front
36:27
Speaker 3: of you would be like, you know, these are all
36:28
Speaker 3: really old, sign them off, and you just didn't care, See.
36:31
Speaker 6: You just kept going.
36:34
Speaker 8: Just this month, Judge Paget was named to a short
36:37
Speaker 8: list of candidates to the Court of Appeals to the
36:39
Speaker 8: State of Georgia. The Governor's office is in the process
36:43
Speaker 8: of scheduling interviews as for Aspen, after the IT team
36:46
Speaker 8: started asking questions and requested her case file, the newly
36:49
Speaker 8: formed Columbia County District Attorney's office found a loophole and
36:53
Speaker 8: a grand jury re indicted Edgardo. Kosia District Attorney Bobby
36:58
Speaker 8: Christine also tells the ICE team reindictment was possible because
37:02
Speaker 8: the judge dismissed without prejudiced, meaning the case could be
37:06
Speaker 8: brought back and prosecuted at a later date. We checked
37:10
Speaker 8: all the cases are dismissed.
37:13
Speaker 6: That way, I'll go look at the court dog its
37:15
Speaker 6: and see if it still.
37:16
Speaker 8: Existing, meaning there might be hope for your dismissed case too,
37:23
Speaker 8: if you wonder if you might be like Aspen. We
37:26
Speaker 8: are posting the list of cases we got through our
37:28
Speaker 8: open records requests, so you can check through it and
37:32
Speaker 8: see if yours was dismissed. If your case is on
37:35
Speaker 8: that list and you think it's there in error, or
37:38
Speaker 8: if you want to bring it up again, you can
37:40
Speaker 8: call your local district attorney.
37:41
Speaker 3: Again.
37:42
Speaker 8: These dismissals are not set in stone. They can be
37:46
Speaker 8: brought before the court again.
37:48
Speaker 7: I team cracking open cases. Are local judge slam shot
37:51
Speaker 7: before they ever made it to trial, some just because
37:54
Speaker 7: a local job.
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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, ma'am. That's very very interesting information because
38:13
Speaker 3: it shows a pattern of a criminal justice system put
38:18
Speaker 3: systems you know who are actually you know, committing news
38:24
Speaker 3: violations of conduct and nothing is being done to him.
38:27
Speaker 3: And everybody knows that this judge is one that is
38:30
Speaker 3: a by a judge. So with that being said, now
38:34
Speaker 3: with this clipplant, it demonstrates that a lot of cases
38:38
Speaker 3: can be reopened as a result of his countuct no
38:41
Speaker 3: matter how long it's been. Who we have to problem
38:44
Speaker 3: with this case right here, every case that that lang
38:47
Speaker 3: a touch can be reopened, and I would encoun it.
38:50
Speaker 3: But anybody who has a family member convicted, either judge
38:54
Speaker 3: the fow for a new pole for their family member.
38:58
Speaker 3: Anybody support groups company man, well you.
39:02
Speaker 4: Know he's he's retired.
39:04
Speaker 2: He announced that he'll be retiring December thirty first, uh
39:09
Speaker 2: this year, in a couple of weeks he'll be retiring.
39:13
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, two okay, But that do not elimination the problem.
39:19
Speaker 3: The problem still exists. So the problem is that right now.
39:24
Speaker 3: But anybody who's chance they're convicted in that county, of
39:28
Speaker 3: course under that said t a rights or a new
39:30
Speaker 3: chib after right now and always have to do is
39:34
Speaker 3: either get a support bote together and demands for all
39:37
Speaker 3: these cases to be reviewed by either that District Attorney's
39:40
Speaker 3: office or follow change again, you slung that county to
39:44
Speaker 3: another county to prevent a contact of end and to
39:49
Speaker 3: have all these cases reviewed by upon propitment's conduct, judgements, conduct, attorneyments,
39:56
Speaker 3: conduct and whatever miss conduct that has been committed. I
40:00
Speaker 3: guess these individuals that has got people send in prison
40:04
Speaker 3: and they will kill y'all a new trial right now
40:06
Speaker 3: because you got articles, you got clissons didn't do anything
40:12
Speaker 3: kind investigations.
40:13
Speaker 4: On them, and then you.
40:16
Speaker 2: You have the the the root the reporting of him
40:28
Speaker 2: making him a example, the statement yeap of what the
40:35
Speaker 2: prosecution said, and you have that, so that should be
40:42
Speaker 2: besized up.
40:45
Speaker 3: You know.
40:46
Speaker 2: That's it's so many errors that you see and that
40:50
Speaker 2: you hear that happened within his case. I was looking
40:55
Speaker 2: at an article today word it was saying that that
41:05
Speaker 2: wants the maximum. I guess like if they do lifewior,
41:08
Speaker 2: the maximum sentencing go away, then you know, you won't
41:15
Speaker 2: have the public. The prosecution coming in. They're asked telling
41:20
Speaker 2: them that they need to take a deal. If you
41:22
Speaker 2: don't take this deal, then we're gonna stretch you out
41:25
Speaker 2: this long. You know, it's like they threatening these young
41:29
Speaker 2: people into cutting the deal, you know, and it's not
41:35
Speaker 2: why should you if you were innocent of all charges,
41:40
Speaker 2: Why do they force you to make a deal, take
41:44
Speaker 2: a deal?
41:47
Speaker 4: Why? Why? Why is that? Cornell?
41:51
Speaker 3: First of all Mann meets with something more. Oh that
41:54
Speaker 3: struck me. Okay, the attorney is the publican thing? No,
41:57
Speaker 3: maam okay. Now, this attorney knew that this individual Antonio
42:02
Speaker 3: was elepent of the crime and that he was being
42:04
Speaker 3: prosecuted or charged under the law price so instead, and
42:09
Speaker 3: then not only that, the lawyer knew that he was
42:11
Speaker 3: mentally incommon as the stand trial. So with that being send,
42:17
Speaker 3: why would the lawyer encourage him to wait the jury
42:21
Speaker 3: and take this case to the judge? Why would you
42:24
Speaker 3: do that? Rug attorney would do that knowing that his
42:27
Speaker 3: clients had psychological problems or mentally accomplised to the stand claw,
42:32
Speaker 3: take that to the jury and let the jury consider
42:35
Speaker 3: whether or not the bird that they give is they
42:38
Speaker 3: against the great weight of the evidence. So that means
42:41
Speaker 3: that the lawyer was also involved in this corruption with
42:45
Speaker 3: the judge. That's why they waited to Yep. And now
42:52
Speaker 3: the what happened I understand.
43:00
Speaker 6: Yep, that d A in that public fenertor.
43:12
Speaker 3: Don't that make sense to the scenario? Doesn't that make
43:14
Speaker 3: any sense?
43:15
Speaker 6: It made sense?
43:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
43:23
Speaker 3: That's what happened. Man. So that's why the gene and
43:27
Speaker 3: your nephew them like they did, man, because the warrior,
43:30
Speaker 3: the public is a part of the operation, is being
43:36
Speaker 3: paid under the table to bring these kids and put
43:40
Speaker 3: them in wrong to wait before the Jedie wow I
43:45
Speaker 3: wave at the journey happened. Man, Right now, you gotta
43:51
Speaker 3: because in effective Assistance Council on the Public Defense and
43:57
Speaker 3: you got a case abuse of expression off with Yeah,
44:02
Speaker 3: and those issues, the fact that her son was given
44:06
Speaker 3: a psychological evaluation public defender, anything that's connected to the judge,
44:14
Speaker 3: that's a federal investigation. Now, because that's corruption and bribery,
44:20
Speaker 3: that's a federal investigation. So that's what you asked.
44:24
Speaker 4: Do you know where the public defender is the latest?
44:31
Speaker 4: Did she also leave or that person?
44:33
Speaker 6: Yeah, they both left the d A and my son
44:37
Speaker 6: who Kelly, who is his public they both left. They
44:41
Speaker 6: no longer they left Kelly. I heard that she left
44:45
Speaker 6: a year after my son got sentenced.
44:54
Speaker 2: Do you know if they followed Judge Pretrick, if they
44:59
Speaker 2: went where he was at, where he resided at.
45:02
Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure they probably went with him. I'm pretty sure.
45:12
Speaker 4: Hmm.
45:12
Speaker 3: Okay, Well let's find out. We're gonna find out. Okay,
45:16
Speaker 3: that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna track them down
45:19
Speaker 3: and that as any of these public defenders, you know, yeah,
45:24
Speaker 3: that's corruption. Okay, I'm from there county here in Texas,
45:30
Speaker 3: and I did it. Ain't nothing angle to make Chens
45:34
Speaker 3: that you can punch his name up, angle to make
45:36
Speaker 3: Chen and Turney out out the battle there. It did.
45:44
Speaker 3: It's very the same thing that we're talking about right
45:51
Speaker 3: now and the film.
45:55
Speaker 4: FBI.
45:55
Speaker 3: I had to get involved in this, wow, because he's
45:59
Speaker 3: gonna the court of Any time you deal with court officials,
46:03
Speaker 3: that is ceteral, it's not state. So with that being said,
46:07
Speaker 3: man if that's public judge waving July le one of corruption,
46:12
Speaker 3: knowing that the judge that bias especially against African Americans,
46:16
Speaker 3: not the pacation to listen and look so that this way, ma'am,
46:21
Speaker 3: you can go ahead and stuff process in your situation
46:23
Speaker 3: with the and uh information from you about the uh
46:28
Speaker 3: the history. Okay, I'm gonna eat the history from you
46:31
Speaker 3: regarding you know, his situation. That's like you know, uh,
46:35
Speaker 3: when is appeal breed if you got a counter as
46:37
Speaker 3: appeal brief, if you've got account of its eleven or seven,
46:40
Speaker 3: those are the two doctors where we will get to
46:43
Speaker 3: hear the long we got that, we got everything else
46:46
Speaker 3: we need, and that cliically that you've got, we're gonna
46:49
Speaker 3: use that against the judge to show the round we're
46:52
Speaker 3: demanded for a new tribe.
46:54
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then I don't understood why when we did
46:57
Speaker 6: our protest, the Low Augusta chronicles came out there. Yeah,
47:03
Speaker 6: they came out there, and indeed it was there question
47:08
Speaker 6: us and everything and right now and everything, video and everything.
47:12
Speaker 6: But I didn't understand why it never hit the news
47:15
Speaker 6: with us. But when it's uh, you know, when it's
47:18
Speaker 6: somebody another color says something about this judge, it hit
47:22
Speaker 6: the news. So I never understood. To me, I'm just
47:29
Speaker 6: being honest, it's racist. It was a racist thing.
47:38
Speaker 3: Well, well, now you know what the truth is. The truth, Well,
47:42
Speaker 3: the thing about it, you can't add nothing to it
47:43
Speaker 3: and you can't take nothing away from it. Now you
47:46
Speaker 3: know what the racism look like. Now, you know, for
47:49
Speaker 3: anybody who show tonight, we want everybody to understand that
47:53
Speaker 3: this show is not about racism.
47:55
Speaker 4: It's not about nothing.
47:57
Speaker 3: But the truth, freedom, justice on account fer what the
48:01
Speaker 3: show is about. Because people may think that all y'all
48:04
Speaker 3: talking talk about blacks black that The truth is the truth, y'all,
48:08
Speaker 3: just art art because the Christmas from so people that's
48:11
Speaker 3: down though investigations into the criminal system and Africans Americans
48:15
Speaker 3: at the top of the list of those being convicted
48:17
Speaker 3: by white Joseph by charity period. So with that said,
48:21
Speaker 3: this show is not about racism. We don't have anybody
48:25
Speaker 3: who got a situation with the criminal justice. For anybody
48:28
Speaker 3: who's willing to come and and and to the left
48:31
Speaker 3: talk about the show and talk about your situations, we
48:33
Speaker 3: invite you. We invite you, and that's what we would do.
48:37
Speaker 3: So for anybody show y'all for coming, We think y'all
48:42
Speaker 3: for this in it, and that's what we do give.
48:45
Speaker 2: U because you know, as you look at it, we
48:48
Speaker 2: don't show clippings and we don't prove the statistics. All
48:53
Speaker 2: you have to do is google it. All you got
48:55
Speaker 2: to do is research it, and it's there. It all
48:59
Speaker 2: started once after the Civil War, when the economy went down.
49:04
Speaker 2: What they started doing. They start arresting Africanan American men
49:10
Speaker 2: just for life, just for standing around. Just look what
49:14
Speaker 2: they did to the lady son.
49:16
Speaker 4: He got his hands in his pocket and he got
49:18
Speaker 4: forty five years for standing our.
49:21
Speaker 2: So they was doing that back after the Sivil War
49:26
Speaker 2: because the economy went down. Now okay, now we can
49:30
Speaker 2: even go look at it when COVID hit, They sending
49:36
Speaker 2: out all this money and stuff trying to rebuild the economy.
49:42
Speaker 4: Check the numbers of the.
49:46
Speaker 2: How many the incarceration rate back then with juveniles and adults.
49:53
Speaker 4: Go back, do your research. Just don't take our words,
49:57
Speaker 4: and do your research and you will find out. You
50:03
Speaker 4: will see it. You will see that we're telling the truth.
50:07
Speaker 2: And that's all we want to bring forth, is the
50:10
Speaker 2: truth on the wrong for convictions, the over sentencing and stuff.
50:18
Speaker 2: You know, mister Legate, look at mister Legate, Sebastian, those are.
50:30
Speaker 4: Not men of color. The go on and on and on.
50:42
Speaker 4: This why is so important?
50:45
Speaker 2: I am so glad Samiria you sent us this clipping
50:49
Speaker 2: because this is so important. Because why tomorrow we vote.
50:55
Speaker 2: If you have not already vote, get out there and vote.
51:01
Speaker 2: Make sure you look at your judges. You see what
51:06
Speaker 2: this judge is doing, Look at your your da, look
51:11
Speaker 2: at everybody.
51:12
Speaker 4: Just don't go through there and check them off like
51:15
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm gonna read.
51:17
Speaker 2: You know, I got to get back to work, so
51:20
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna just go down the line and then
51:24
Speaker 2: I'm gonna vote Democrat Republican. You can vote different Democrats.
51:32
Speaker 2: Look at somebody in there that's gonna do you wrong,
51:36
Speaker 2: So you better read your stuff, you better do your research,
51:45
Speaker 2: and you know, we and start praying because we don't
51:49
Speaker 2: know who we're gonna get in that office tomorrow. Yeat
51:51
Speaker 2: at the voting places. Don't, don't. It's no, it's gonna
51:55
Speaker 2: be hectic tomorrow, people, But get out, get out there
51:59
Speaker 2: and vote.
52:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all. I I just want to just ramble, Cornelian.
52:13
Speaker 3: Is anything you want to ask before we close out tonight.
52:17
Speaker 6: No, I just want to thank you guys for, you know,
52:21
Speaker 6: just kind of bringing it back up, because it did
52:23
Speaker 6: dive down a little bit. But I just thank you
52:27
Speaker 6: guys for for bringing it back up because I truly
52:31
Speaker 6: believe that not only my son, but I believe other
52:35
Speaker 6: mothers sons also need to be saved from this and
52:39
Speaker 6: how we can have bad judges. And I said again,
52:43
Speaker 6: and you're right, it don't have to be. You know,
52:45
Speaker 6: we got our own kind that do us wrong, So
52:48
Speaker 6: it don't have to always mean another color because a
52:53
Speaker 6: lot of them once they get in office and they
52:56
Speaker 6: know they got the power to do stuff. You know,
52:59
Speaker 6: they mistreat they mistreat our people. So I don't know,
53:04
Speaker 6: I just thank you guys for bringing it all, you know,
53:07
Speaker 6: bringing this all back up because a lot of people
53:10
Speaker 6: need to hear.
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Speaker 3: It well.
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Speaker 4: And see.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well, first of all, come off.
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Speaker 2: You know, I just believe that we all need to
53:25
Speaker 2: come together. We're fighting the same thing, you know, and
53:30
Speaker 2: we have to make our voices heard. We look at
53:33
Speaker 2: our ancestors, what they did, the the We can do
53:39
Speaker 2: much more in numbers if we come together, if we
53:43
Speaker 2: say enough is enough and meanness like, no, you're not offensive.
53:47
Speaker 4: Do our children like that?
53:49
Speaker 2: You're not fas to continuously take our our our spouses
53:55
Speaker 2: away from us over wrongfulness. You know, you want to
53:59
Speaker 2: give us some programs, just like you're putting in your neighborhood.
54:05
Speaker 2: Bring some programs into our neighborhood. Bring some more jobs
54:10
Speaker 2: back into our neighborhood. You know, while you while the
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Speaker 2: men in there rebilitating whatever you may say that in
54:19
Speaker 2: there doing, give them some job skills, if offerm different
54:24
Speaker 2: stuff so they can come out and be able to compete.
54:29
Speaker 4: You know, if you're not offering them anything, you know
54:33
Speaker 4: they have to start.
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Speaker 2: They starting over, They starting from the bottle on, and
54:37
Speaker 2: they trying to work theyself up. So you know, just
54:42
Speaker 2: I mean, people, come on, let's let's get it together.
54:44
Speaker 2: Let's come together, let's drop the colors, because we're all
54:52
Speaker 2: we're all together, We're supposed to be as one, and
54:56
Speaker 2: we need to fight this system as one. This is
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Speaker 2: all I gotta say. I don't turn it over to
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Speaker 2: the host of the night for now.
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much mission that, ma'am for having me
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Speaker 3: on too, and thank you very much Missionary for coming
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Speaker 3: on ma'am. First of all, like I said, we want
55:14
Speaker 3: to thank you very much for even sharing the stories,
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Speaker 3: because the story is much wrong. When I come one
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Speaker 3: system that your sons took cases exactly what we need
55:22
Speaker 3: to have past this because if he's done that to
55:25
Speaker 3: your son, just think of how many more kids he's
55:27
Speaker 3: done that and they don't have a voice, They don't
55:30
Speaker 3: know which way to time, they don't know nothing to
55:33
Speaker 3: Their son is trying to work on his case by himself,
55:36
Speaker 3: because even though I'm say he's he did not commit
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Speaker 3: decline and he's trying to learn a system that's broken.
55:42
Speaker 3: He's up against the brick wall Man. So now thank
55:45
Speaker 3: god that you know this is a handle of Thomas Smith.
55:49
Speaker 3: But because podcast is Shennette Johnson was enough talk about
55:53
Speaker 3: the show has come.
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Speaker 4: We can used to be.
55:57
Speaker 3: A voice for those that need him. Boys concerted behind
56:02
Speaker 3: the punt the wall. So with that being said, member,
56:04
Speaker 3: I would like to encourage you that in the future,
56:08
Speaker 3: very tol Man, that we can use this news clipping
56:14
Speaker 3: that you have and we can eat and to build
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Speaker 3: a petition for new child file are to that clipping
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Speaker 3: that you have, addistive church for anybody who is conficted.
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Speaker 3: Judge ma'am all you have to talk new trials to
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Speaker 3: everybody who is condictive under that judge, and we would
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Speaker 3: take the criminal, the governor, and every news station and
56:39
Speaker 3: that in that state and we're gonna request for new
56:42
Speaker 3: trial or feudal investigation against to everybody's case in that county.
56:47
Speaker 3: So that's what I would like saying. Courage you to do.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 3: You know, I know you didn't have other things going on,
56:52
Speaker 3: but that's where we'll we will be. And if you
56:56
Speaker 3: got any family members, any mothers that got kids that
56:59
Speaker 3: blocked up, and come if that dinner, if you can
57:01
Speaker 3: find dinner reach out to dinner. We're gonna drop a petition.
57:04
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a whole lot of petitions now we
57:06
Speaker 3: can't and that's what we're gonna do and see if
57:08
Speaker 3: we can get them to come out. And like that
57:11
Speaker 3: said that, that's our numbers. Man, We're gonna have los
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Speaker 3: her because we're not gonna let it go. Okay, and
57:18
Speaker 3: then I will be feeling the particition for your time case. Okay,
57:22
Speaker 3: so tell him the top follow like that. Okay, okay, okay.
57:28
Speaker 4: All right, and we stand shoulders to shoulder.
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Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
57:35
Speaker 4: All right, You are very welcome. You know, if you
57:41
Speaker 4: know any if it's anything we.
57:44
Speaker 2: Can do, Samiria, just just let us know if we
57:48
Speaker 2: need to protest, calm down there and just stand on
57:53
Speaker 2: the capitol before he retired, to have our own retirement.
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Speaker 5: Party with him, you know, without going to jail, because
58:02
Speaker 5: I'm not built for that just yet, not even I'm
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Speaker 5: not gonna even say that. I'm not even built for jail.
58:11
Speaker 4: But you know, we we can. We can do a
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Speaker 4: lot with numbers. We can do a lot with numbers.
58:22
Speaker 2: And since their media don't want to come out, hey,
58:26
Speaker 2: Angela said, we're gonna start.
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Speaker 4: Our own media. We have our own media coverage out there.
58:35
Speaker 3: Now we don't, we don't. We've got what we need.
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Speaker 6: Yep.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Cornell, we got five minutes if you want
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Speaker 2: to go ahead and take us on out of here.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well, thank you very much for coming on. M
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Speaker 3: dedicated to bring the way and the families of incarcerated individuals,
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Speaker 3: those that are locked behind for the laws without a boys,
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Speaker 3: let's talk about it. It is very dedicated to what
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Speaker 3: we do. We do this because we need to do this.
59:11
Speaker 3: This is what we have to do. Wow, because we
59:14
Speaker 3: have our kids in these putting the systems being convicted
59:18
Speaker 3: by these detgens of corruption and the age of foxculits
59:21
Speaker 3: come and the law is taking bribes and stuff like this.
59:25
Speaker 3: And here the kids don't understand that they don't being
59:27
Speaker 3: traveled to a system of corruption. And with this being said,
59:31
Speaker 3: it's hard for them to get out of it. But
59:33
Speaker 3: with this being said, they depend on people like them
59:36
Speaker 3: to have the creative twice for them, the tact for them.
59:39
Speaker 3: But if they can have a voice. So with this
59:41
Speaker 3: being said, if anybody's listening to this show tonight, remember this.
59:45
Speaker 3: Let's talk about it. It's not a racial, racial talk show.
59:48
Speaker 3: We're here for anybody who got a story to tell.
59:51
Speaker 3: Anybody who got their family members that incurselated needs their story,
59:54
Speaker 3: don't come and let's talk about it, and we will
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Speaker 3: actress OCAs. We will investigate their kids, and we will
1:00:00
Speaker 3: make sure that we get the handful that we are
1:00:02
Speaker 3: looking for us to get. We would deliand for that.
1:00:05
Speaker 3: So anybody again tonight that listen to this show, get
1:00:09
Speaker 3: out and vote. If you know you got cricket pleasures
1:00:11
Speaker 3: in your courthouse, go them out. If you know you
1:00:15
Speaker 3: got cookie das, go to the mount. Please get out
1:00:19
Speaker 3: and vote. Tomorrow is a better important day. Like Missionette said,
1:00:22
Speaker 3: we have to vote. Because we don't vote, we will
1:00:25
Speaker 3: always get the same name over and over and over again.
1:00:29
Speaker 3: So thank you Missionarius for coming on tonight. Man. But
1:00:32
Speaker 3: like I said, we will be staying with you, ma'am
1:00:34
Speaker 3: on this situation. And for anybody that you know that's
1:00:37
Speaker 3: in the same position, get out for them, have them
1:00:40
Speaker 3: to come for and be about. Let's talk about and
1:00:44
Speaker 3: we will leave that for you to beat down for them.
1:00:47
Speaker 3: So thank you Miss Scenario for coming on. Thank you
1:00:50
Speaker 3: mister net for having me on your show. Tonight, ma'am,
1:00:52
Speaker 3: and like a sorry child's there and anytime I can
1:00:54
Speaker 3: be in your ma'am, please let me know. So thank
1:00:56
Speaker 3: you very much if you keep doing what you do, missus,
1:00:58
Speaker 3: miss Jobson, because you voice that we need. Okay, thank
1:01:02
Speaker 3: you so much.
1:01:02
Speaker 4: Laughing and on, and you guys have a blessed, wonderful week.
1:01:11
Speaker 4: I will see guys on.
1:01:14
Speaker 2: I believe Saturday. I have a special tribute to my son,
1:01:21
Speaker 2: So I will see you guys. Then have a blessed week.
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Speaker 4: You God bless