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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 5-8-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 4: delightful food menu and incredible service. Every single time NBA
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  Speaker 4: Playoffs continue NHL playoffs continue, Philadelphia finds themselves on the
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  Speaker 4: brink of elimination. The Carolina Hurricanes have put together a
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  Speaker 4: nice little Stanley Cup playoffs so far. They're up three
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  Speaker 4: zero in that series, and I'm not sure Philadelphia is
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  Speaker 4: equipped for the comeback. Although three one and three zero
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  Speaker 4: comebacks are a lot more common in the NHL than
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  Speaker 4: they are in NBA basketball, it's still not a high
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  Speaker 4: percentage move. We talked about it with the Utah Mammoth.
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  Speaker 4: It's about eighty percent of the time. If you go
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  Speaker 4: up three one or better, you're gonna win the series.
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  Speaker 4: I was watching Okay see LA last night. I find
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  Speaker 4: myself in a really odd position where I almost, dare
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  Speaker 4: I say it, I almost want to see the Lakers
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  Speaker 4: make more of a series out of this.
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  Speaker 3: I almost want to see the.
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  Speaker 4: Reviled LA Lakers snag a couple of games, forced at
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  Speaker 4: least to Game seven. Lebron James is cringey at times,
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  Speaker 4: but he's a guy that I think is underappreciated, even
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  Speaker 4: though he is incredibly hyped up. I think he's underappreciated
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  Speaker 4: for his longevity, and not just his longevity, but his
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  Speaker 4: longevity at a level of insane production. And he's never
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  Speaker 4: gonna supplant Michael in my mind, but he is a
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  Speaker 4: guy that I want to enjoy. While you know, we're
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  Speaker 4: in these twilight years. I am a year older than
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  Speaker 4: Lebron James. Okay, we're effectively the same age. Lebron James
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  Speaker 4: is outperforming twenty something year old people at the highest
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  Speaker 4: highest level on a nightly basis. And any of you
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  Speaker 4: out there listening who've crossed that forty year threshold, even
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  Speaker 4: if you're in great shape, even if you are spending
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  Speaker 4: a lot of time, a lot of money, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of effort on keeping yourself healthy, it is, it is
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  Speaker 4: not the same.
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  Speaker 3: And Lebron somehow makes it look the same. He isn't.
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  Speaker 3: He's an abnormal specimen for sure.
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  Speaker 4: And even as I'm watching the Lakers and me like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, maybe they can make a game of this,
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  Speaker 4: and they did for three quarters.
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  Speaker 3: OKC is just too much.
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  Speaker 4: There's something else that's interesting with Oka se They've obviously
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  Speaker 4: got a really good home court thing going on. They're
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  Speaker 4: a team that seems to have leaned in, embraced the community,
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  Speaker 4: and the same thing has happened back they end up
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  Speaker 4: winning the game. The thunder Do one hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 4: five to one hundred and seven, and on the strength
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  Speaker 4: of really a really dominant third quarter end of the
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  Speaker 4: third quarter into the fourth, you outscored LA thirty six
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  Speaker 4: to twenty two after the half, and going into the
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  Speaker 4: half it looked like the Lakers were maybe gonna push
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  Speaker 4: to even this thing up to go back to LA.
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  Speaker 4: Lebron ended up with twenty three points that led all
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  Speaker 4: scorers in the game. Again, this is a forty one
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  Speaker 4: year old man who's doing this. But Oka See just
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  Speaker 4: has too much in the tank right now, and lou
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  Speaker 4: Dort is too good of a defender, And I'm fascinated
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  Speaker 4: by the fact that right now Oklahoma City has to
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  Speaker 4: be kind of the gold standard, not just because they're
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  Speaker 4: defending champs, but because of the fact that they're defending
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  Speaker 4: champs who show they have incredible depth. They've got the MVP,
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  Speaker 4: but the MVP isn't the only thing that moves that
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  Speaker 4: team along. Chet Holmgren had a monster game last night,
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  Speaker 4: and it was just it felt like kind of what
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  Speaker 4: I feel the same way watching Oklahoma City as I
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  Speaker 4: do watching the Colorado Avalanche, where I'm like, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: this team is destined for a championship this year, and
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  Speaker 4: plenty of things can happen. Carolina, especially in the NHL,
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  Speaker 4: is going to have some things to say about it.
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  Speaker 4: The New York Knicks appeared that they might have something
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  Speaker 4: to say about Oklahoma City, and maybe San Antonio will
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  Speaker 4: as well, or maybe it'll be Minnesota. But you get
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  Speaker 4: a feeling watching Oklahoma City the same feeling you get
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  Speaker 4: when you watched the Colorado Avalanche this year, and that's
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  Speaker 4: a twofold prospect for me. The same feeling is, Wow,
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  Speaker 4: this team is really good, and I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: anyone's equipped to beat them over the course of a
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  Speaker 4: seven game series this particular year, but more in the
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  Speaker 4: case of Oklahoma City than in the case of the Avalanche,
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  Speaker 4: although the Avalanche have a little bit of this as well.
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  Speaker 4: The local team chasing that gold standard, the gold standard
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  Speaker 4: in front of us right now is okay, see chasing that?
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  Speaker 3: How do they get over that hump? Now?
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  Speaker 4: I think they're going to be a playoff team sooner
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  Speaker 4: than later. I think they might even win a playoff
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  Speaker 4: series sooner than later. But how do you get from
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  Speaker 4: where you're at right now? If you're the Utah Jazz
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  Speaker 4: Okacs level, Well, you try to emulate a lot of
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  Speaker 4: the things that Okac has done. I think that it's
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  Speaker 4: an encouraging prospect the same way that the Utah Jazz
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  Speaker 4: had those you know, deep connections, those deep ties to
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  Speaker 4: a San Antonio Spurs franchise that was the gold standard
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  Speaker 4: for two decades basically under Greg Popovich and still gets
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  Speaker 4: to be talked about in the same light. The same
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  Speaker 4: way you were trying to, like unabashedly trying to copycat
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  Speaker 4: a Spurs model, because that's a small market team, that's
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  Speaker 4: a team that yes had superstar talents on it, but
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  Speaker 4: was also built through incredible depth, and the superstars that
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  Speaker 4: you found you often found in non conventional means. You
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  Speaker 4: acquired them through you know, international prospects and drafting guys
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  Speaker 4: that maybe were overlooked by other teams.
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  Speaker 3: Now, that's not why the Spurs are good.
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  Speaker 4: Now, everyone on the planet knew that Victor winbin Yama
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  Speaker 4: was going to be something. I don't know that everyone
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  Speaker 4: in the planet knew that Stefan Cassel was going to
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  Speaker 4: be something.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: If you go back and you've got truth serum in
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  Speaker 4: the veins of every NBA pundit how many folks thought
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  Speaker 4: that Shay Gilgess Alexander was ever going to grow into
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  Speaker 4: what he has grown into. Obviously they benefited from getting
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  Speaker 4: a player like chet Holmgren and having him work out.
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  Speaker 4: Lou Dort is someone that we watched in the PAC
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  Speaker 4: twelve Conference and it was just like, wait, how is
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  Speaker 4: lou Dort being undervalued and overlooked? When it was clear
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  Speaker 4: at that time when lou Dort was coming into the league,
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  Speaker 4: guys like Draymond Green had already demonstrated their value in
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  Speaker 4: the league. Guys like Rajah Bell, if you want to
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  Speaker 4: localize it, had already for years demonstrated their value in
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  Speaker 4: the league. There's a ton of individuals that you could
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  Speaker 4: like cut from that same cloth, and lou Dort is
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  Speaker 4: not built the same as all those guys.
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  Speaker 3: But I was like, how is he being overlooked and undervalued?
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  Speaker 4: Well, he wasn't by Oklahoma City, and Oklahoma City has
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  Speaker 4: found a perfect role for him to play. And it's
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  Speaker 4: one of those things again, do you emulate this well?
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  Speaker 4: In the case of the Utah Jazz, the lou Dort
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  Speaker 4: role is not is going to be a big man. Honestly,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be like a Walker Kessler type player,
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  Speaker 4: but he might not have the versatility to do it.
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  Speaker 4: So who is going to be your defensive specialist that
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  Speaker 4: you pay like an offensive contributor. But really that guy's
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  Speaker 4: job is just to shut down the opposing player on
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  Speaker 4: the team, and lou Dort does it with the opposing
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  Speaker 4: best player on every team. So he defends nine out
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  Speaker 4: of the ten best guys in the league, the exception
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  Speaker 4: being when it's somebody who's gigantic. And that's why maybe
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  Speaker 4: a Spurs OKAC finals matchup could get a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more interesting. But they've got Isaiah Hartenstein who is also
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  Speaker 4: filling a similar role there where he's kind of the grinder.
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  Speaker 4: He's kind of the gritty dude. And for the Utah Jazz,
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  Speaker 4: you want to check all these boxes and you don't
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  Speaker 4: have the same personnel, you don't have the same guys,
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  Speaker 4: but you're gonna check all those boxes if you can.
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  Speaker 4: And I just get this feeling. I've been wrong a
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  Speaker 4: trillion times before. I might be wrong about this, but
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  Speaker 4: I get a feeling watching Oklahoma City and they will
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  Speaker 4: find tougher tests than this version of the LA Lakers,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure. But even when they meet those tough tests.
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  Speaker 4: Even when they don't play a perfect first half of basketball,
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  Speaker 4: the end, I'm winning by twenty points. They're just that
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  Speaker 4: good right now. That's why, that's why I haven't been
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  Speaker 4: with Gordy. Chase has been quick to point out, and
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  Speaker 4: we love Gordy. He's been quick to point out that
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  Speaker 4: there's been a new champion for the first time in
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  Speaker 4: NBA history. There's been a new champion every year since
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  Speaker 4: the Raptors won in twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: Right, it's seven straight years.
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  Speaker 5: And on top of that, the defending champion hasn't made
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  Speaker 5: it out of the second round each of those years
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  Speaker 5: I've been. He's been quick to point that out. Whenever
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  Speaker 5: you've asked, Hey, is okay, see.
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  Speaker 3: Going to repeat.
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  Speaker 5: This OKAC team to me all year long has felt
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  Speaker 5: different from all those other teams that lost in the
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  Speaker 5: first or second round in the past seven years. The
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  Speaker 5: rap starting with the Rafters, than the Lakers and on
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  Speaker 5: through right, they have the depth. They're doing this without
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  Speaker 5: Jalen Williams. Evan Cohen when he joined you the other day,
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  Speaker 5: OC he said, Jalen Williams scored forty in an NBA
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  Speaker 5: Finals game, and they're dominating teams without that guy, right,
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  Speaker 5: Chet Holmgren has every has all the pieces, He has
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  Speaker 5: all the size and the skill to be an MVP
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  Speaker 5: one day, and he was your third He was the
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  Speaker 5: third best offensive player on the team last year. He's
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  Speaker 5: the third best offensive player when Jaylen Williams is healthy
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  Speaker 5: this year, and in Jalen williams absence, he's played like, hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you can go through me too. Because Shay hasn't been
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  Speaker 5: that dominant individually, this team plays like twelve twelve guys
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  Speaker 5: a night. Aj Mitchell, who wasn't even on their part
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  Speaker 5: of their playoff run last year, is averaging like seventeen
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  Speaker 5: points a game for them off the bench in this series.
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  Speaker 5: Like this is, this team is just has too many
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  Speaker 5: good players. Shay can be almost absent comparatively, and they
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  Speaker 5: can win by twenty points. When the Lakers have played
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  Speaker 5: two of the best games that they've played against the
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  Speaker 5: Thunder all year long, some of the best games they
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  Speaker 5: played in the playoffs, they're getting blown out. This is
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  Speaker 5: I don't their Spurs might be able to beat them.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not sure anyone else can.
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  Speaker 4: There were years in the NBA where you had to
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  Speaker 4: have you had to have a big three.
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  Speaker 3: You had to have a big three. I think those
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  Speaker 3: days are gone.
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  Speaker 4: And those three were all all stars, and you spent
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  Speaker 4: all your money on those guys, and then everybody else
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  Speaker 4: was just a bit player. They were like in the
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  Speaker 4: in the credits after the movie, they were sandwich Guy
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  Speaker 4: number four.
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  Speaker 3: It was just it was not Now.
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  Speaker 4: I think you have to have a big one, a
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  Speaker 4: giant one, and then a bunch of mediums. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: think you have to have an ensemble cast with one
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  Speaker 4: Oscar winner at the top if I'm going to for
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  Speaker 4: some reason unexplainably make it into a movie, like I
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  Speaker 4: don't think you can win an NBA championship right now
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  Speaker 4: without a Shaik Gildas alex Xander, without a Luka Doncic,
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  Speaker 4: without a Jason Tatum, without a Victor winbin Yama. But
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that the best formula in today's NBA
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  Speaker 4: is to have Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Dwayne Wade, and
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  Speaker 4: then a bunch of who's that guy.
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  Speaker 5: Let's let's think about the Lakers. Lebron James and Luka Doncic.
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  Speaker 5: That might not get it done because the rest of
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  Speaker 5: the team they have Austin Reeves is really good.
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  Speaker 4: Austin Rives is good. Luke Canard has done some nice things.
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  Speaker 4: But Ruy Hatchimora is playing well. But that's they're not enough.
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  Speaker 4: They're an awkward fit.
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  Speaker 5: Even as well as Canard has played, and Ruy was
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  Speaker 5: was on a heater last night there, they always seem
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  Speaker 5: to be an awkward fit. DeAndre Ayton I will never
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  Speaker 5: I would never want that guy to be my starting
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  Speaker 5: center on a playoff team.
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  Speaker 3: By the way he is.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what happened to the DeAndre Ayton we
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  Speaker 5: saw in the Sun's Finals run that was only five
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  Speaker 5: years ago. He looks older than Greg Odin did when
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  Speaker 5: Odin was playing college, and he is he just gets manhandled,
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  Speaker 5: and that a guy like that with those kind of
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  Speaker 5: physical tools should not be doing that. But I digress
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  Speaker 5: on that. I'm so glad you brought that up, and
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  Speaker 5: I think it's great news for the Utah Jazz as
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  Speaker 5: they start their hopefully contending era here coming out of
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  Speaker 5: the tank era. It that the way of the league
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  Speaker 5: has gone from needing a bunch of stars to win
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  Speaker 5: championships to needing a really good ensemble cast because that's
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  Speaker 5: what they committed to when they traded for Jaren Jackson junior.
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  Speaker 5: Unless they can get an aj De Bonsa or Peterson.
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  Speaker 5: If the cramping doesn't the cramping issue doesn't extend.
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  Speaker 4: That's the thing, just accelerates the expectator because you still
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  Speaker 4: need this Utah Jazz team still needs somehow and that's
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you're desperate for an aj debonce A type player.
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  Speaker 4: Because I think that the curse of the Utah Jazz
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  Speaker 4: as they're constructed right now will be as they move
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  Speaker 4: forward and they will be a lot more successful. I
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  Speaker 4: think they'll win games. I think they'll be a playoff
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  Speaker 4: team or at least a play in team. The curse
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  Speaker 4: for the Utah Jazz moving forward is going to be, well,
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  Speaker 4: who is your MVP? Who is your elite player? Like
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  Speaker 4: I really really enjoy lowry market, in healthy lowry market
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  Speaker 4: and not faking anything lowry market and not being tanked.
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  Speaker 4: Larry Barry marketing. I really love his game. He's not
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  Speaker 4: a number one on a contending team. Keyante, George, you
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  Speaker 4: have done some incredible things in terms of growth and
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  Speaker 4: development in your career. Also not a number one now,
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  Speaker 4: maybe Ace Bailey grows into that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, if they can't, if they're not able to draft
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  Speaker 5: an aj Debonca type Peterson type in this draft. Maybe
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  Speaker 5: the hope is Ace Bailey can.
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  Speaker 4: Be Ace is the most likely candidate, but it's going
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  Speaker 4: to require a lot of patients, and even Ahja Debonnce,
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  Speaker 4: if you're able to draft him, would require a lot
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  Speaker 4: of patience.
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  Speaker 3: It's not gonna be day one he's gonna dominate the league.
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  Speaker 4: But that that's the I mean, it's like it's like
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  Speaker 4: looking at this looking at this painting, and you're just like, wow,
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  Speaker 4: the background of this painting is beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: You've really laid it out perfectly. This is amazing.
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  Speaker 4: I love this and the frame is absolutely spectacular. It's
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  Speaker 4: just what is it missing? And it's just like, well,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's missing focal point. It's it's missing the mona Lisa.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's missing that, right, It's missing the starry, starry night.
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  Speaker 4: That's what we're missing. Is unfortunately right now the biggest
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  Speaker 4: piece of the recipes, Oh my gosh, due this spaghetti
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  Speaker 4: that you made, the sauce and the oh the popers
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  Speaker 4: on the perfect ratio here and the pasta is perfectly
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  Speaker 4: al dente.
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  Speaker 3: What well it needs the meatball though, Yeah, this.
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  Speaker 4: It needs like the main course here, and that's that's
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  Speaker 4: a tougher ask and I fully realized that.
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  Speaker 3: But there is still some encouragement in watching.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, honestly san Antonio still but okay, see certainly what.
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  Speaker 3: I would like.
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  Speaker 5: Evan Cohen brought up the twenty twenty four Boston Celtics too,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm glad he brought that up because they were
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  Speaker 5: also lost in the hole. Jason Tatum's incredible and Jaylen
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  Speaker 5: Brown look at look at how awesome he is is
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  Speaker 5: on that team. Was that they went like eight to
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  Speaker 5: ten guys deep themselves. Yep, Like Al Horford was your
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  Speaker 5: like seventh best offensive player and he was still good
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  Speaker 5: for twenty every every every few games.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: That was a Derek White as a guy would who
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  Speaker 5: would in the playoffs, would drop twenty almost every night
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  Speaker 5: for them.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, akse got oh akc ok See got thirty
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  Speaker 4: one minutes out of Cason Wallace last night. Alex Caruso
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  Speaker 4: is a guy that on a lot of other teams
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  Speaker 4: in the NBA right now is a definitive starter or
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  Speaker 4: he is your sixth man of the year, and he's
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  Speaker 4: like the.
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  Speaker 5: Best perimeter defender and he's he's maybe the second best
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  Speaker 5: perimeter defender behind lou Dort and he's like the sixth
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  Speaker 5: or seventh guy off the bench, So.
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  Speaker 3: Okase, he's impressive.
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  Speaker 4: There was another takeaway in the game last night that
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  Speaker 4: I think is maybe a bit more of a hot take.
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  Speaker 4: Here's a question for you, how often do you have
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  Speaker 4: to be dirty or how dirty does something have to
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  Speaker 4: be for you to be called a dirty player? Shake
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  Speaker 4: Gildess Alexander last night against Austin Reeves did one of
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  Speaker 4: the dirtiest things that we have seen in NBA basketball
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  Speaker 4: all year long. And the Lakers are being made fun
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  Speaker 4: of right now for their conversations, their postgame conversations with
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: the raft, the extracurricular conversations they're having with Oklahoma City,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: the complaining that JJ Reddick is doing. The Lakers are
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: being made into a punchline here, and trust me, it
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: feels strange for me to be defending the Lakers. But
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Shay Gildess Alexander did something in a basketball game last
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: night that is considered dirty and bad form and like
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: a jiu jitsu tournament when you saw I don't know
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: how much of the game here, the he had Austin Reeves. No,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: he had Austin Reeves arm tangled in a way where
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: effectively it was Reeves' arm is in Shay's arm pit. Yeah, okay,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: it's an underhook, to use the parlance of wrestling and
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: or combat sports. So Austin Reeves has an underhook and
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Shay has an overhook. That oftentime in basketball, ninety nine
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: times out.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Of one hundred, what happens.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: What is you swim the top arm over and you
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: bring your arm back in your elbow, back to your
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: own side for positioning right. Most times in basketball you
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: don't grip down on that arm that is in your
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: own armpit because it serves you no purpose.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: When you're the guy being underhooked.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: It gives somebody else control, It gives somebody else leverage.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: So in basketball and.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: In other things, almost always people will reposition their shoulder
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: their arm to make it so that guy's not underneath them.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Watch one on one pass rush drills.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Take the cuts from Spencer Fano and Caleb Lomu against
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: David Bailey that are rotating around the internet. Low man wins,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: but low arm especially wins. If you can get your
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: arm underneath somebody's peck or armpit.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: They have to re cover. They have to reposition rapidly.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Otherwise you get put your center gravity gets put up
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: too high, you get.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Thrown off balance.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: And so when guys are positioning out at the three
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: point line, especially when they're down low in the post,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: individuals in every sport will try to swim their arm
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: back inside. You don't want your arm hanging out here
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: with somebody underneath it. It's just not good for your balance,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: your footwork, you're positioning anything. Shake Gildes Alexander last night
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: did something that you do not see in NBA basketball games.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: You do not see in most places.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: He bit down right, he tangled his arm up further,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: He further secured the underhook for Austin Reeves, and then
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: he spun himself out to hyper extend Austin Reeves's arm.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Like if I James, if I do this in a
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: jiu jitsu practice, I'm getting jumped by the guys that
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: are not that are that are watching me because it's
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: a dirty move. If you do this in a jiu
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: jitsu tournament, it's not illegal, but it's frowned upon because
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: what you do is you don't really it's not the
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: chess match there. What you're doing is you're torquing your
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: body rapidly and hyper extending the arm rapidly and potentially
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: breaking the arm or tearing an elbow, things like that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: And it's not like something that people are you're not
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: defending it intelligently, right, It's like you just your arm
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: gets stuck in the wrong position and you're in a
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: bear trap and then all of a sudden snap. It's
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: just frowned upon because it's not a move that you
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: can even tap out from. It happens too fast, and
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: that's the goal of that move. You could do it
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: in a fight because you're trying to get them out
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: of there by any means necessary. Right, you're doing it
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: a fight by design because they can't tap. It's just
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: injuring the arm. And I know that shake Gilgess. Alexander
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: probably isn't aware of that move as a martial art technique,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: but I.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Can guarantee you this.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: He realized how tangled up Austin Reeves was with him,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: and he realized that if he tangles it up even
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: more and he spins, it's gonna hurt Austin Reeves's arm.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: And he did that he's the MVP. He's a guy
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: who does not have the Draymond Green reputation. If it
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: had been Draymond Green who was doing this, he is
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: serving a suspension. Unequivocally, there's a fight happening because it
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: was Shay. It was an incredibly dirty move that wasn't
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: treated as such because it was Shay. He does not
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: have that reputation the same way other guys in the
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: league might, especially a guy like like a Draymond Green.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: If this was you go back to the nineties, if
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: this was Charles Oakley or Anthony Mason or somebody like that.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: If this was a Dennis Rodman move, if Karl Malone
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: did this, we're fighting, right. Those guys had a reputation
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: of a cantankerous and rough.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Shae doesn't have that. But that was a dirty play.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I mean not like a oh I stuck my foot
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: out and he landed on my foot. That is a
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: dirty play that is designed to hurt an opponent. And
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Austin Reeves was he was hurt by, thankfully it was.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: He wasn't injured by, but he was. You could see
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: he was just like, oh my gosh, that was a
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: very very close call for him, and if Shane knew
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: a little bit more about how to secure that arm
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: a little bit tighter and how to spin his body
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: a little bit faster or with a little bit more leverage,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: that would have broken Austin Reeves's arm. That was a
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: dirty play, and nobody's talking about.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I feel like I've seen worse.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: We all feel like we've seen worse, because when somebody
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: gets elbowed in the face, Yeah, it's like a super
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: direct thing.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Get I get you, and I appreciate the explanation. I
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: get how it could be a worse injury than what
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: we've seen, But I feel like the reason why it's
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: not being talked about the way that you feel like
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: it should. In addition to he's got a squeaky, much
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: cleaner reputation, that's certainly a big part of it, but
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: I think it's also because I mean, I've just watched
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: it like five times again, and I still you can
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: tell that Reeves's arm that it's hurting him because of
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: how you expl what the explanation you just you just made,
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Oh see about the how it hyper extended his arm,
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: But the move doesn't look that egregious compared to like
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: you said the other things.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Even though it is so, I feel like I've seen
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: a lot worse.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: You know what, this is the equivalent of this is
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: the exact same thing as when somebody grabs an ankle
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: and gator rolls at the bottom of a pile or
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: grabs an ankle, and you see that in basketball and
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: in football.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: It's it's the exact same thing.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: What you're doing is you're pinning one part of a
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: body and compromising a point a little bit further up
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: the chain. It's the exact same principle. But because it's basketball,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: and because it's not an elbow to the face, is like,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: because it's not a headbutt, nobody got punched. And in basketball,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: what they worry about more often with a lot of
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: these flagrants, right, they try when you take somebody out
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: of the air and you upend them while they're in
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: the air, that's a flagrant that's obviously incredibly dangerous.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like the one that I'm thinking of that might
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: be one of the worst I've seen. And Gary Payton
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: the second was victimized by it. He actually did break
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: his arm. Get his arm broken. Was Dylan Brooks what
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: four years ago now, when the last Warriors Championship year.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Gary Payton the second's going up for a lamp and
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Dylan Brooks just like entire arm came down on one
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: of Gary. I can't remember the arm, the ball that
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: he had the ball in or the other one, and
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: he broke Gary Payton the second its arm, Like, that's
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: probably the worst I've seen. And as far as trying
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: to make it look like a basketball play and you
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: just destroyed somebody's arm instead unnecessarily, that to me way
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: worse than what, at least the way it looked than
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: what Shaye did last night. I think that it was
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: probably officiated the right way, though I credit the flagrant one,
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: not no, don't throw him out of the game for that.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I credit the officials for at least acknowledging and and
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: like if if Reeves hadn't, like if he was actually
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: injured by it, maybe we're having a different conversation flagrant too.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: But he's out of there. I credit the officials for
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: knowing what they saw there because it it does look
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: relatively innocuous. But but Shay Gildess Alexander pins the arm
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: down and torques his body against the motion against where
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: the pinning leverages where I mean, if they were, if
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: they were more hip to hip in terms of like
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: like standing next to each other instead of kind of
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: like facing each other.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: This would have been a lot more serious.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to like, I'm not trying to
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: overblow the uh the impact because Austin Reeves is fine.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: And that's he.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Finished the game. He finished the game, He continued to play,
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: played really well. That didn't seem to be worth So
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: if Dylan Brooks had done this, great example, Yeah, if
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks had done this, reputation matters.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: It's an ejection.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, reputation absolutely matters. You bring up Draymond Green too,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: like it absolutely being a multiple defender or offender, I
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: should say absolutely matters with this, And Shay just isn't that.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I think we might be getting a call.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Answer the phone. Let's see what they have to say.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Jump on the eight seven seven three five three zero
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: seven hundred. If you ever want to hop in and
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: give us your opinion. If you just want to, you
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: can also do it there. I must have offended them
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: with the way I answered the phone. I'm sorry, Wow,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: you can call back. I will just put you on.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Oh so you can say eight seven seven three five
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: three zero seven hundred. Is it close to a number
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: that people are trying to call for something because we
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: had one yesterday. Is there like a zero zero seven
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: zero instead of a zero seven hundred oh seventy. That's
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: like like a customer service line for a car dealership
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: or something. Then when you're just like es P seven
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: hundreds ah and hang up, he should just panic.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: It could be alright, but you're right. Reputation might be
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: the biggest part of this. And Shae, his reputation is clean.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: The foul merchant stuff notwithstanding.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: But I'm watching you, Shay, Okay.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna name you dirty if you
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: do this again this series.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: You're nice.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Shake Gil just Alexander. He listens every day to the show.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: So all right, I have not told you. Bill Riley's
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: going to join us on the show today. Roxy Bernstein
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: is going to join us on the show today. And
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Lauren Beck RSL radio pre half and postgame show host.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I haven't talked.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: We work together here at the station, whatever, it was
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: a decade ago. I haven't talked to Laurenon forever. I'm
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: really excited for that conversation. So that's all coming. We
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: better take a break now so we can get to
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Bill Riley. It's ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one FM.
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• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Bill Riley, how are you.
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: Sean O'Connell.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: What's going on? Ah?
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: You know, just sports and stuff, A lot of things
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I wanted to pick your brain about. But one of
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: the things is now that we have our own NHL team,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: although that team is out of this year's Stanley Cup playoffs,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: and of course our NBA team here in Salt Lake
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: City is not in the NBA playoffs, which is more
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: interesting to you right now. I'm sure nobody's watching every
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: single game of every single series, but NBA playoffs or
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: NHL playoffs.
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: Stanley Cup playoffs, no doubt. And that was even the
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: case before we had the Mammoths here. I just love
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: the Stanley Cup playoffs. I love the action, I love
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: the way they do it. I don't really get interested
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: in the NBA until we're a little further along. I've
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: almost forgotten what the NBA playoffs look like here in
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: Salt Lake City. It seems like it's been so long.
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: But now I've always been a hockey playoff guy, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: now with the Mammoth here. I was saying this dispense
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: the other day when I was talking to him. I'm
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: just and being out of the day to day like
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: you guys do, I feel like I can kind of
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: settle in and be a fan. I didn't grow up
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: in a town Kansas City didn't have professional hockey and
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: a minor league team. But I didn't have that growing up,
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: so I never really had an NHL team to root for,
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: And the Mammoths kind of give me a little bit
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: of fandom, which sometimes we lose a little bit when
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: we do the jobs that we do. So I'm loving
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: I love the series with Vegas. I hope it starts
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: up a little regional rivalry. But I'm far and away
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: in on the NHL a lot more.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Than the NBA right now, because you mentioned Kansas City,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Are you familiar with Hawaiian Bros?
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Was that around when you were in Kansas City?
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: No? Is that one of the many Hawaiian restaurant chains.
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: What is Hawaiian Bros.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Hawaiian Bros Is a chain, a fast casual chain in
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Kansas City that apparently is running They've been running a
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: promotion this year where if the Royals score more than six.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Runs, you get a free plate lunch.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: And apparently they had to discontinue it because they've already
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: given away seven hundred thousand dollars worth of free lunches
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: because the Royals are scoring a lot of runs.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: Well, they just expecting the Royals to be a really
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: bad offensive team this year. I guess they didn't have
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: high hopes for the Royal. Now the Royals haven't been great,
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: but their bats have come alive lately. So see, that's
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: never a good look for you as a restaurant because
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: it kind of feels like you're welching on a bet,
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean. It's like, oh, yeah, we're
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: gonna do this. Oh no, maybe we're not. Maybe you
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: do a little bit more planning and say, okay, every
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: time the Royals score eight in a game, because eight's
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: a pretty big number. Eight rhymes with Hawaiian plate, and
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: then you go in that direction. But would you say,
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: was five or six?
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Six runs in home games?
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: It's like and I looked at I was like, okay, six, yeah,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: six is a lot of runs, but it's not like
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: a lot of runs.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: So they brought the fences in a Kaufman stadium this year.
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: They should have taken note of that. They brought the
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: fences in like fifteen feet. I mean this, it's going
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: to create more offense.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: There's been whole seasons of Royals baseball where they've averaged
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: five runs a game. So six was not the right
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: place to put the threshold if you're giving away free product, you.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: Well, they should have also talked to their barbecue brethren
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: before they ran that. Hey, you guys have been around
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: a lot longer than we have, and the barbecue joints
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: would have said, yeah, don't do that, we make a
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: lot of money, or don't do that. But they probably
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: were trying to make a splash and a barbecue market
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: and it came back to bite them.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Absolutely did.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Anyway, We're not here to talk about random Hawaiian food
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: promotions in Salt Lake City, I mean in Kansas City.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Let's get to some of the things that are a
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: little bit more salient here in the world of college athletics,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: including the news that there's been a unanimous approval to
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: expand NCAA basketball tournament to seventy six teams.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: We didn't need.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Sixty eight probably we all got used to it. I
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: don't know that we need seventy six. Hopefully sooner than later.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: You're calling running youts basketball in the tournament again, But
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: what do you think of seventy six teams?
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: Not a fan, I'm not. I didn't like sixty eight.
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: I thought sixty four was a great number. Again, nobody
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: that's in those last you know, going from sixty eight
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: to seventy six, Nobody in those last eight teams is
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: going to win the NCAA tournament. We know this. That
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: means you're gonna have to win seven games instead of
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: six games, probably because you're gonna be in some crazy
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: little play in tournament to get into it. I just
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: I think it's unnecessary.
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: Sean.
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: Now, I know we're going to probably pivot to the
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: football side of things, in a second. It's not the
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: end of the world. It's probably gonna save some coaches
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: jobs because they can say, hey, we got into the tournament.
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: And you know what, if Utah is one of those
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: last eight teams in this year, I'll be thrilled because
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: I'll be calling NC DOUBLEA Tournament basketball. I just don't
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: think it was needed, but somebody to tell Vision Network
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: somewhere probably wanted it. It's probably going to add an
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: extra fifteen seventeen million dollars to the purses of the coffers,
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: and so it's done. I just don't think it's needed myself.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: What about you.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I don't need it, I don't love it, I don't
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: want it. It is exactly what you said it was.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: It's a money grab. And that is what college sports
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: are all about right now. That's the sports in general
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: are all about right now. And I guess that's just
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: the way it's got to be. And you know, I'll
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: watch did whatever we call them. I'll watch those games,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: you know, the first four, the first eight, now the
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: first first four, the week zero four, however we decide
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: to term them. Speaking of Week zero, are you in
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: favor of the scheduling changes?
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Proposed by the AFCA.
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: Are you talking about moving week one back to week zero?
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: I am a season earlier, and the season earlier. There's
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: a push they wanted the season to be done by
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: the second Monday in January.
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: Frankly, I'd love the season to end by New Year's
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: Day and play all of your big games right around
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: that or right after that. But yes, I am. We're
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: jonesing for football. Just back camp up a week so
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: you're starting in mid you know, second to last week
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: of July instead of the last week of July. I
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: don't think anybody will be upset with that, except maybe
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: a coach who's having to cut his trip to Hawaii
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: or Mexico shorter to get back. But I'm for it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: I like it, and I like the fact that, you know,
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: because it looks like we're going to probably expand the
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: playoffs again. You probably begin the playoffs a little bit earlier,
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: you know, maybe on what would have been that championship
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: weekend in early December. I don't know, but no, I'm
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: all for it. The sooner we can get college football rolling,
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: I'm good with it.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: That is one of the proposals as well. Get rid
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: of conference championship games. Now, I know, if you're going
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: to expand the playoff, and you're going to start that
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: on whatever, December sixth, it's necessary for the conference championship
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: games to go away. The idea of getting rid of
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: them is not my favorite. I'm here for any case
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: that people want to make. Where are you on that argument?
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: I like the conference championship games because I think it's
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: a good reward for having a great season. It also
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: maybe gives you a chance to play your way in
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: like last year had it been Utah in set of BYU,
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: but even BYU, had they been able to pull that upset,
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: they could have earned their way into the playoff. I
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: do like those games. I mean, if you said you're
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: gonna do away with them, I'm not going to lose
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: sleep over it. But I got to call a bunch
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: of PAC twelve championship games, some that Utah won, some
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: that they lost. They were good, they were fun, and
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: it was great pageantry, and it kind of felt like
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: the reward of for a good season. But now is
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: the playoff is at twelve and maybe expanding bigger, which
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: I'm sure we'll talk about here. There's a chance that
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: if you were going to play in that game. Anyway,
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: you're probably gonna be in that playoff and that next level.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: So it's not the worst thing in the world. But
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: I'm kind of like you. I'm I kind of like
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: those games, and maybe because I got a chance to
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: call some part.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Of it for me really is how big are you
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: going to make the field? And is there going to
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: be an automatic threshold where you know, the Big Twelve
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: gets three teams in in your twenty four team playoff
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: or whatever, Because my fear is if you'd get rid
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: of conference championship games and you eliminate the opportunity to
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: play your way into a playoff for that number two
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: team in the Big twelve conference and there isn't like
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: an open door, then it's gonna be a one bid league.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: And on top of that, you know, like, you're not
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: a national championship contender if you're in the Big Twelve
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: right now, you're just not and that sucks. But the
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: pinnacle of your season right now, if you're Utah, if
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: you're Texas Tech, if you're BYU until we see somebody
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: prove otherwise, the pinnacle of your season is not to
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: say you made it to the college football playoff, it's
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: to say that you won your conference. That's what you
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: hang the banner for. That's what you get the championship
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: ring for. Like, yeah, it's great to make it into
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: an expanded field, but the same thing with an expanded
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: NCAA tournament. You're just like, all right, well, yeah, we're
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: team number seventy four, we're team number seventy two, we're
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: team number twenty two. In college football, that means you
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: just you had a really good season. You're not a
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: national championship contender if they're going twenty fourteen.
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: Here's your other problem too, Sean. What happens if you
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: don't need your conference championship game and two teams finish
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: with ten and two records, and maybe they were each
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: seven and one or seven and two in conference play,
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: but they didn't play each other.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: That's right, the conferences are bringing.
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: True What are we going to the third common opponent,
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: a team that you beat in September to determine that
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: you're the conference champion? And you you know how I feel.
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: I hate co champions I just ties co champions I mean,
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: I just I don't like it. So, I mean, if
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: you're doing the way with a conference championship game, there's
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: gonna be maybe not every year, but every few years,
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: And I just I hate a formula, you know, in
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: a third tiebreaker to determine who the conference champion is.
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: Conference champions should be determined on the court, on the field,
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: if that makes sense.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: It worked well to not have a conference championship game
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: when you had eight and ten team conferences and everyone
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: got to play each other.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Now that you've got.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Eighteen teams and sixteen teams in these conferences, you are
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: invariably going to run into a situation where two of
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: the three best teams did not play against one another,
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: and you're relying on convoluted tiebreakers to name a conference champion.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, we already were relying on.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Those two those things to get people into a conference
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: championship game. If then you leave it to the coin
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: flip to decorate as champion, that is unsatisfying in a
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: lot of different ways.
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: Do you mean when the Big ten actually had ten
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: teams and the Big eight actually had eight teams, and
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: the Pac ten actually had ten teams, right?
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: That The fact that we still use the numbers is
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: actually one of the dumbest things. It's one of the
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: silliest things that we do. The Big Twelve has twelve teams.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Oh no, of course not.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: Well in the day and age where we're where, we
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: are rebranding everything and putting corporate sponsorships on them. It's
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: amazing to me that the Big Ten and the Big
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: Twelve and some of these leagues, don't you know, the
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: Atlantic Coast Conference there are two schools that literally sit
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: on the Pacific Ocean. Why are you calling yourself the
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: Atlantic Coast Conference. The only one that makes any sense
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: is the SEC And even that you could kind of
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: stretch because they've got schools in Texas and Oklahoma. That's right,
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: we just need to re again. We're probably going to
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: get to a super comper at some point in time
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: that will have you know, they're going to have Capital
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: one super Conference on it or whatever it might happen
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: to be. But yeah, the fact that these conference commissioners
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: haven't sold their rights and just rebranded these things is
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: amazing to me.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: All Right, you know, I love a list, and ESPN
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: put out a list about the most important newcomer at
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: each power for school for Utah, they decided that the
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: most important newcomer on the roster was Kelvin Obot, and
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: they make a nice case in the little blurb. I
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: think we could make the same case. But he's not
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: the only guy you can make a case for. Is
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Kelvin Obot the most important newcomer on the Utah roster?
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: And if not, who is it?
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: It's hard to say right now. I don't think he's
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: definitively the most important. I think he could certainly play
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: a very important role in that offensive line. I think
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: you could make a case for Braden Pagan wide receiver,
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: being the most on a team that has not had
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: big play wide receivers consistently. This guy seems to have
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: the makings and the markings of potentially being a big
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: play wide receiver, So I would I would put him
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: on that list as a potential, you know, important newcomer.
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: I don't think it's a super long list, Sean, I
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: don't you know. You might say, maybe it's Cedrick Jefferson,
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: the kid from Montana State. Maybe maybe it's him. I'm
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: trying to think on the defensive side. I don't know
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: that there's a guy that you're going to look at
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: and say, this guy is going to be an immediate
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: impact can't miss guy could be one of the corners
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: that plays opposite of Scooby Davis. But we'll see. But
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: I think for me it would be Obots or Pagan
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: What about you?
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Pagan was where? What was the next name that came
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: to mind? For me? For sure? I think that who's
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: the North Texas kid that transferred?
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: The DN kid Ethan Day?
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Ethan Day could be on that list, that short list.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Kyrie shol is also another wide receiver, So yeah, I mean,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: and of course the sexiest one is the five star,
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: highest rated recruit in program history, and he is gonna
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: play It sounds like I don't think he's gonna play
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: tackle though, and that like guards are important, but they're
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: not as important as tackles are.
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: Well, that's what I mean. And you're part of a
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: five man unit. Now, if you're saying he is the
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: starting left tackle, then I might say, Okay, protecting the
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: quarterback's blind side as a freshman, that's pretty important. But yeah,
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: when I talked to Jordan Gross and some of the
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: coaches in spring, they were still kind of yeah, there's
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: I'd be very surprised if he isn't one of the
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: five guys. But yeah, where he fits in that puzzle,
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: I think is what they were trying to figure out
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: this spring. In this summer, they'll have those five guys together.
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: I think they've got I think they know they've got
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: five or six really good guys. I think they're just
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: trying to figure route where those guys work best. Is
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: that the kind of the vibe you got when talking
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: to some of the coaches.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Absolutely yes, And that's the case almost always, like who's
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: our best five? Positional versatility is something that this Utah
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: program has valued in their offensive lineman for years, and
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: even the guys who went on into the NFL this
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: last year. I mean Cump got signed as an undrafted freeer.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: He played every position on the offensive line. One of
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: the reasons he has an NFL future potentially is because
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: of that right so well.
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: And two Sean, if Obot does start inside, that doesn't
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: mean next year or the year after he couldn't kick
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: back outside.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: I think, cackle spot.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: I think there's no chance he finishes as a guard.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Even if he starts as a guard, I believe that
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: he is probably your future left tackle. That is a
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: massive ask for a true freshman, even one as physically
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: impressive as him, and especially when you have a six
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: foot eight inch long armed guy who's already played the position,
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: who's a senior, Like if there's no other option for you,
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: and you're saying, all right, Calvin, we're gonna throw you
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: into the deep end right away, but they have some options.
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: Zero I think you're talking about zero Away Williams, and
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: he here's the thing we might have seen zero Way
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: Williams playing sooner. Zaraway has had a lot of injuries
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: throughout his career at the University of Utah. He's one
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: of those guys where you're just hoping he can stay
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: healthy and it all comes together for him because he
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: looks the part. As you just said, he's got the measurables.
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: He just has to You know, your best skills sometimes
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: is your availability. If he can stay healthy, I think
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: Utah has got a really good left tackle. And to
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: your point, he's been in the program five years he's played,
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: but he's been around high level college football and been
• 47:50
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• 47:53
  Speaker 7: being the left tackle, and say Kelvin Obot again this
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: is all speculative, ends up being your left guard in
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: year one, I don't think that's a bad thing for
• 48:03
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• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Not at all.
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  Speaker 4: Hamzat Shimayav is probably right now the best fighter on
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you should come down, bring the wife, just leave
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: a babysit. Yeah, we can babysit. Yeah, we have a
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: very large dog. He's like when Peter Pan was That
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: dog's named Nana. Just let the dog take care of
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: the kids. Yeah, no, one the worst that can happen.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: No, it'll call the police on us if that's the case. Okay,
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: So what else we have going on? Because Friday night
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Saturday is when the UFC card is happening, you got
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: playoff games both nights up.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: You've got playoff games.
• 53:40
  Speaker 10: And then in the following weeks we just have our
• 53:41
  Speaker 10: normal lineup Bingo Trivia. On May twenty third, though, we're
• 53:47
  Speaker 10: doing a real RSL watch party against Minnesota United. We're
• 53:52
  Speaker 10: giving away two tickets to World Cup.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Oh and that game will be on June eighteenth, World
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Cup Tech.
• 54:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah two, like a game in the world, actual World
• 54:04
  Speaker 10: Cup game tickets Like where raffle it's gonna be in. Uh,
• 54:08
  Speaker 10: they're for Inglewood, so it's close. It's a Switzerland versus
• 54:14
  Speaker 10: Bosnia Herzegovina.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: I was looking at tickets for this exact game yesterday
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: because my wife, thankfully she doesn't listen to the show.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: My wife is a big soccer fan.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: She played college soccer, and I was like, man, I
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: should buy her a nice Mother's Day present. I should
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: get her some World Cup tickets. And then I looked
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: at USA Panama, which is in LA and I was like,
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not paying two thousand dollars for the worst seat
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: in the stadium. But yeah, the Switzerland bosnie hurts. The
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: Convino ones are a little bit easier to get. So hey,
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: and I'm gonna have to come down.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: For the raffle.
• 54:47
  Speaker 10: And it's at two thirty, so you don't even have
• 54:48
  Speaker 10: to stay out late. You can come down, hang out perfect,
• 54:51
  Speaker 10: get a get a raffle ticket'sh your fingers.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah, so it should be fun.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: It's is it from upon to manipulate odds in my
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: favor because we're longtime friends and and now partners as
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: you're sponsor.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Let me draw the numbers. We can discuss that.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: Look, we know that the NBA Draft lottery is rigged.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: We don't keep your ticket in the freezer, and I'll
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: just look for.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: The cold one, the frozen ticket, frozen tickets controversy.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: And big willies in the World Cup raffle. It'd be perfect.
• 55:23
  Speaker 10: I mean, I was gonna ask you the same thing
• 55:24
  Speaker 10: for the Lagoon giveaway. For the funnel cake festival, because
• 55:27
  Speaker 10: I love funnel cake.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: If you all you had to do was tell me
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: how much you love funnel cake, and we could have
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: we could have made that happen.
• 55:33
  Speaker 10: I just hang out a pioneer village the whole time,
• 55:36
  Speaker 10: just engulfing funnel cake.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: And just stay staying dressed in character for the old
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: timey western photos.
• 55:43
  Speaker 10: I leave after the photo. I don't change my clothes
• 55:46
  Speaker 10: and just walk around the town.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: Sir, sir, could you please give us the cowboy hat back?
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: Just let me let me live, Sir, you cannot get
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: on the colossus wearing the pie village shaps.
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. Let's go take a picture together. Yeah, let's
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: do it. You like funnel cake.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, I love funnel cake, and I love that. Now
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: we've expanded the offerings of funnel cakes. When we were kids,
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: it was powdered sugar on a funnel cake, and that
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: was good, maybe even good enough, you might say. Now
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: they got cherry pie filling, they've got apples, they've got
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: like fancy comb fees and fruit compots and all this
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: type of stuff, extra whipped cream, peaches and cream.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Now maybe maybe strawberry syrup. That's this as far as
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: I goes. Oh you're a purist, now, okay, all right.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: In any case, Big Willies is the spot for you
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: this weekend and any weekend. Poker on Sunday as well, Yes, awesome, yep,
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: get down there on Friday, get down there Saturday for
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: the UFC fights. Go down Sunday, play a little bit
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: of poker, and if you can't make it during the weekends,
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: it's a great spot for a week day lunch, for
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: a weekday dinner. Go grab a table and watch the
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: NBA playoffs, the NHL playoffs and anything else that's going on.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: Thanks for coming in. Thanks, I appreciate it. Thanks for
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: the hunch.
• 57:12
  Speaker 10: James.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yeah, James, no crying anymore, James, get
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: your own freaking chicken. Yeah, that's what I.
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: Should always That's what he always told me. Yeah, now
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: Gordy can tell me everything.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: That drop from that drop from Gordy Cha's is actually
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: just him quoting me every time James is.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Like, could I have a few bites of your lunch?
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Get your own.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Freaking chicken, James, that's a good sound bite. Head down
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: to Big Willie. Seventeen seventeen. South Maine.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: That's the hot lunch up.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: Next, Roxy Bernstein to talk a little NHL PLAYFFS. I
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: also want to pick his brain about the changes proposed
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: in college football. We'll get to all of it next
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: on The Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN seven hundred and ninety
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  Speaker 4: two oneff.
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  Speaker 1: You were listening to The Sean O'Connell Show from the
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  Speaker 1: to one alf M Don O'Connell.
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  Speaker 3: Show here on a Friday.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: We're lucky enough to welcome in our guy, Roxy Bernstein
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  Speaker 4: talking a little NHL playoff, maybe some potential changes in
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: the college world.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Who knows.
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: The Utah Mammoth season is over, as you're hyper aware,
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: and you know, I wonder if you have any thoughts
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: now that we're in the post mortem. We're all digesting
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: kind of how it went on pace with what we
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: think the growth of this franchise is supposed to be.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: But you get to look at it from the you know,
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: the outsiders view to some extent.
• 58:44
  Speaker 11: Look, it was a huge step forward for this organization
• 58:47
  Speaker 11: to get to the postseason, to get to the Stanley
• 58:49
  Speaker 11: Cup playoffs. Here in year two, they did it. They
• 58:52
  Speaker 11: were close last year and fell shy, but they were
• 58:55
  Speaker 11: able to break through this year, and this promising young
• 58:57
  Speaker 11: core was able to get a taste of what the
• 59:00
  Speaker 11: Stanley Cup playoffs are like. But at the same time,
• 59:05
  Speaker 11: when you're sitting there knowing you had three you know,
• 59:10
  Speaker 11: a lead in an opportunity there in game four, right
• 59:15
  Speaker 11: that you're right there, you tied it, then you took
• 59:18
  Speaker 11: the lead late in the third period, only to see
• 59:22
  Speaker 11: Vegas tie it and win the game at overtime, and
• 59:25
  Speaker 11: the heartbreak of losing Game five and double overtime, but
• 59:28
  Speaker 11: it shows you how close this team is and this
• 59:31
  Speaker 11: was a significant step in their building process. And now
• 59:35
  Speaker 11: the chore for Bill Armstrong and Chris Armstrong, the front
• 59:37
  Speaker 11: office and Andre Turney is okay, what do they need
• 59:41
  Speaker 11: to do to take that next step? A lot of
• 59:43
  Speaker 11: talents coming and you have to determine, all right, his
• 59:46
  Speaker 11: teach again, they're going to be ready. Where is simyshev
• 59:48
  Speaker 11: spot In, etc. De Noyer. But it's clear that this
• 59:53
  Speaker 11: organization is headed in the right direction. And this year,
• 59:57
  Speaker 11: even though this's the frustration of losing to Vegas and
• 59:59
  Speaker 11: s was a significant step forward.
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  Speaker 4: Those forward steps are fascinating, right because you talk to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: people in you know, high level sport no matter what
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: the sport is, and getting there is one thing. Staying
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: there is tougher. Getting to the top and staying at
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: the top are two different things. Getting to the playoffs
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: and winning series in the playoffs and becoming a real
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: championship contender. I mean there's actually a pretty significant gap
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: between those milestones, and you've got your core locked in, right,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: So this team is the roster is going to remain
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: relatively constant from its like top two lines in a
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: lot of situations, your most important defensive pairings, all these
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: people are under contract and figured out. It's a lot
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: of accessory pieces. But we've seen the importance of those
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: accessory pieces again in every sport, but especially as we're
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: learning hockey. Man, sometimes you need like ten good minutes
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: out of Spicy tun or you need Kerfoot or Tanev
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: or some of these guys, and that seems to be
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: where lot of the roster questions are for this team.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: When you look at the contenders right now in the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: Stanley Cup playoffs, how many of them are driven kind
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: of in a sneaky way by those non mainline guys.
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  Speaker 11: You need to have those depth pieces, and you're going
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 11: to have injuries during the course of a season. It's
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 11: just the nature of the beast in the NHL, and
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 11: a lot of times in the playoffs, it's a war
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 11: of attrition. Who's healthy enough, who is ready to go?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 11: And then your depth comes into question, and that's I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 11: think something that needs to be addressed in terms of
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 11: that second level scoring. It's not just okay, getting goals
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 11: and points from guys like Keller and Gunther and Schmaltz,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 11: and we know how critical they are to the team's success,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 11: but it's the depth pieces. You've signed Logan Cooley to
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 11: a long term contract. Okay, now what's going to happen
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 11: as far as these young players will be able to
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: break the lineup? Can they provide that depth or do
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 11: you need to go out and add to it. One thing,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 11: I do think they need it. I don't think I'm
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 11: telling anybody that doesn't follow the Mammoth that they don't
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 11: know is they need to I think they need to
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 11: get a little sandpaper. I think they need to get
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 11: a little bigger physically, maybe on the third fourth line,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 11: and add some pieces that will compliment what you already have.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 11: You have a solid decore. Maybe you could use another
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 11: defenseman coming in. For example, Ian Cole is an unrestricted
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 11: free agent, but you're locked in with guys like Sergachevin Wieger, Jersey,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 11: John Marino, who I thought played very well in the playoffs,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 11: Nate Schmidt, who is a veteran piece as well. If
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 11: Simachev ready to make that jump, and if you determine
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 11: he is not okay, then what are you going to
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 11: add to the decore? And then how confident you are
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 11: in a backup goalie? For example, with Mamelka playing more
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 11: minutes and more games than anybody in the league, do
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 11: you need to add a second goaltender because you know
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 11: van in Check I thought had his inconsistencies this year.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 11: But now you're at the point, Sean where you have
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 11: your core in place. It's just what are you going
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 11: to add to it? And what are those pieces? How
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 11: can they complement what you already have.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: There is some conversation about Bear Turney and he in
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: the mid season when you're slumping a little bit, there
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: was apparently, you know, a lot of real push to
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: maybe make a change there, and then the team got
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: the ship righted and made the playoffs and played well
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: at least for some of the moments in the playoffs.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: But good is the enemy of great in professional sports,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: and if he is just good, then you're going to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: have to make a change eventually. Your thoughts on coach
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: bear and if he's the right guy to get them
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: over the hump they need to get over.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 11: I've certainly been impressed with Andre does and the way
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 11: he has had patience with this young group and every
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 11: year they've improved under his tutelage. Right, you look at
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 11: a succession rate. He's been the head coach of the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 11: then previously in Arizona for five years. Each season they
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 11: have improved, and that's I don't think you can overlook
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 11: that and take it for granted. But we also know
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 11: that I don't know how comfortable coaches will feel in
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 11: the NHL. For example, look what happened late in the season, right,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 11: Vegas all of a sudden gets rid of Bruce Cassidy.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 11: They bring in Torts and John Tortorella leaves us to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 11: go to the Vegas School to Knights and takes over
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 11: for the last nine games and has him in the playoffs.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 11: And you saw it also with the Islanders, where with
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 11: even less time left in the season, they hired Pete
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 11: de Boorr. It's unfortunately, the life cycle of coaches can
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 11: be very challenging and it can be a harsh reality
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 11: at times. And Andre Turney for the struggles that they had,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 11: and look, they had submit key injuries, right, Logan Cooley
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 11: missed a good chunk of time, and he wasn't the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 11: only one that was playing or trying to play banged up.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 11: They had a number of guys in an out of
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 11: the lineup, which also you have to take into consideration,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 11: I guarantee you if that's what the front office looked at.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 11: But they also fell confident in the direction Andre Turney
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 11: had this thing going in and then those final few
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 11: weeks they started to hit their stride. They made their push,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 11: they locked up the number one wildcard spot and they
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 11: were head to one in this series. I think it
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 11: was a tremendous growth and learning season. Now you're looking
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 11: for that next step and can you get into the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 11: top three of the Central which is going to be
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 11: difficult considering how loaded Dallas is, what Minnesota has, certainly
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 11: with Colorado, Saint Louis made it push with a strong
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 11: post Olympic break run that they made. Winnipeg made a
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 11: step forward after they got that off to that horrific start.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 11: You get the sense the Blackhawks are going to make
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 11: a jump as well next year. It's they're in the
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 11: toughest division in hockey. I don't think anybody can debate that.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 11: But are they ready to make that next jump? And
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 11: I think that's what they have to determine.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: Roxy Bernstein here on the Sean O'Connor show, talking a
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: little hockey here on a Friday Connor mcdo David was
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: talking about how Edmonton has to stay ahead of the pace.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: And obviously that's a franchise that's had a lot of
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: success as of late. But you know, he mentioned Utah,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: he talked about Anaheim, he mentioned the San Jose Sharks,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: and they get.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: The number two pick this week. They won their draft lottery.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: They had a five percent chance and going number two,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: and they capitalized on the five percent chance. They will
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: select two, which you know better than I. That's now
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: four years in a row they've drafted in the top four,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: and more importantly, they've selected well. And it seems like
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: that is going to translate into on ice results sooner
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: than later with San Jose, so I love where Utah
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: is at, but staying with the curve or ahead of
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: the curve easier said than done.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 11: And that's the thing is. Look, Anaheim was out of
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 11: the playoffs for eight years and they made it back,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 11: and here they are one one with Vegas in round two,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 11: and they bring in a coach like Joel Quinnville, they
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 11: shuffle their roster, bring in some key veterans who have
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 11: been contributors for them, and there's a rebirth in that franchise.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 11: And luckily the Pacific Division right now is really down right.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 11: Vegas doesn't seem to be as dominant as they were
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 11: in years past. Yes, they won a series, but right
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 11: now you're seeing, I think some holes in what Vegas
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 11: has and Anaheim is exposive of the first couple of
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 11: games of the series, even though it's one to one
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 11: going to Anaheim. To me, the Ducks have been the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 11: better team in each of the two games, but Carter
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 11: Hart stole Game one of that series. But Anaheim's a
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 11: team on the come and the Pacific Division is there
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 11: for the taking. And that's what San Jose looked as
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 11: you talked about they luck into the second pick, and
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 11: they certainly have hit on the picks that they have
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 11: made so far. And that's an organization right now that
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 11: was in desperate need and here they are. And the
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 11: biggest blessing for them, Sean is crazy. The sounds was
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 11: them not making the playoffs, because if they had made it,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 11: they were going to be wild card two. And we
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 11: saw what happened to the La Kings who were wet
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 11: by the Abs in round one. More than likely that
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 11: would have happened in San Jose. Maybe the Sharks would
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 11: have gotten a game and as a five game series,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 11: but benefited the organization by missing the playoffs getting into
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 11: the lottery. And now they're going to pick second and
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 11: they need some defense help. It's clear will that direction
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 11: they go. I think my career has opened to options,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 11: whether it's trade the pick. But there are teams in
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 11: there making the move now in the Western Conference San Jose, Anaheim.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 11: I have put them right there with Utah's terms that
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 11: are as teams that are ascending.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: What's going to happen in Toronto with Austin Matthews, does
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: the leaves getting the number one pick kind of calm
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: his concerns if he doesn't have the help that he needs.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 11: Well, they've certainly lost a large lot by Mitch Marner
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 11: leaving right and they just weren't able to replace it.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 11: The injuries to Matthews this year Kneelander clearly didn't help.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 11: But with Toronto, well, it's such a tough market and
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 11: a tough read. Now they have a change in management
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 11: and John Chaco comes in as a GM and Matt Sundean,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 11: the leaf Great, will be his advisor. I just don't
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 11: know how you can move Matthews forget the contract right,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 11: But here is your franchise, this is your captain, and yeah,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 11: there's some disgruntlement right now, I think from both sides.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 11: But getting the number one pick, and if you do
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 11: happen to add Gavin McKenna or do you take somebody
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 11: else like Stenberg for example, with the number one pick,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 11: how does that change the dynamic there? With the Leafs.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 11: It's just a hard player to move. It's easier said
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 11: than done. And the same thing like, ok is McDavid
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 11: has one more year right in that deal. If you
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 11: were going to move him to if you are the Oilers,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 11: how do you do it? How do you trade the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 11: best player in the game. We've seen it done, but
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 11: it's easier said than done, and it's very challenging to
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 11: navigate that. And that's what the Leafs have to do with. Look,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 11: Matthews the best player in the game. He is one
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 11: of the elite players though, and that's what Edmonton has
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 11: to do with now with the frustration of losing in
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 11: the first round, but the Oilers were just so beat up.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 11: I think going into that series with Anaheim.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: We've seen the best player in the game moved in
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: the past, and it was Edmonton who did it.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 11: Now, that's true.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: It worked out.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: Nicely for them, winning a Cup a couple of seasons later,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: but I don't know that you'd be able to convince
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: a modern day sports fan that that's the right move
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: in any situation.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 11: You know what, looking back on the trade from the
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 11: late eighties, sean, it changed the complexion of the entire game, right, Okay, Yes,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 11: it's stunk for the Oilers, as you alluded to. They
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 11: did win another Cup when you trade the great one,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 11: but Wayne Gretzky going to LA opened up so many
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 11: new franchises, I think, including Utah, that eventually, you know,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 11: the snowball kept going because he had the birth not
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 11: shortly thereafter of Anaheim San Jose the West coast. All
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 11: of a sudden, the Winnipeg Jets moved to Phoenix, and
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 11: of course the Coyotes then moved to Utah. But now
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 11: you have Vegas, you have Seattle, all these teams, even Dallas,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 11: I think the Stars coming from Minnesota. It was all
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 11: opened by that deal and opened up more eyes to
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 11: the NHL. And with Green Gretzky's trade to the La Kings.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: It's wild. The butterfly effect, that's something like that.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: K Yeah, have you seen anything through these Stanley Cup
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: Playoffs so far that convinces you anyone can take out
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: a red hot Colorado Avalanche team.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 11: I'm curious to see the response from the Wild now
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 11: that they're going home and Colorado. But they put up
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 11: nine goals in Game one and now they're up to
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 11: oh going to Saint Paul. That's been interesting to watch,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 11: and I'm anxious to see how the Wild respond on
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 11: home ice because they've got to win Game three. If
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 11: you get down three to ZHO, there's no chance you're
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 11: coming back against the Colorado Avalanche, I'm sorry. And then
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 11: you look at the rest of the Stanley Cup playoffs.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 11: What a scene it was in Buffalo last night with
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 11: the Sabers back in the postseason and beating Montreal. Carolina
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 11: has been dominant, which has been a bit surprising, to
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 11: be honest. I thought they'd get tested somewhat and they
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 11: haven't yet. At some point they're going to have to
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 11: deal some adversity in the playoffs, and when the Canes do,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 11: let's see it. But I just don't see anybody in
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 11: the Western Conference knocking off Colorado, and to me, I
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 11: think we're headed for a Carolina Colorado Stanley Cup final.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: Switching gears slightly. The AFCA, the American Football Coaches Association,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: made some proposals. They want to schedule change, they want
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: to get rid of conference championship games and do some
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: other things.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: We'll start there, though.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: Are you in favor of letting conference championship games go
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: back by the wayside?
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 11: I'm okay with it, Sean, because I hate seeing it
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 11: and it's happened. We're teams that don't make the conference
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 11: championship benefit from not playing in it, and teams that
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 11: play in it have to suffer the consequences if they
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 11: lose that championship game, and I don't feel that's fair.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 11: And look, we all know why they play these conference
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 11: championship games, seawn. It's the moneygrap right, That's what it is.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 11: And it's like the conference tournaments in basketball. To me,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 11: I've always valued the regular season championship more than the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 11: conference tournament championship. And if you win the regular season
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 11: of a college football conference, I think that's better than
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 11: just winning one game, because you've been the more consistent
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 11: team over the course of two and a half three months.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 11: I'm okay with it. Especially Look, we know playoff expansion
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 11: will be coming, and to have these kids play one
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 11: less game, I'm cool with it. So we want to
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 11: dial back these conference championship games, I'm with it.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know if the Roxy Bernstein baseball schedule allows
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: for a Week one to move into Week zero or whatever,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: but that's what the coaches want. Start the season a
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: little bit earlier, end it by the second Monday in January.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: I think it's a move in the right direction. What
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: are your thoughts?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think like more time for the players' bodies
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 11: to recover, and if you put in a second bye week,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 11: for example, in the regular season, which we've seen from
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 11: time to times. I think it works where Week zero
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 11: previously right to his teams that essentially played the University
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 11: of Hawaii, they were able to play in Week zero
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 11: and then get the exemption to play that week. I'm
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 11: all for it. Look, we just stay with the twelve
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 11: game regular season and then the playoff expansion which is coming.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 11: Whether we go to sixteen or twenty four, we will see.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 11: But i think it's critical that we get the best teams,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 11: and you find the best matchups and the intrigue and
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 11: not penalized teams, for example playing in that conference championship game,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 11: and if they have an extra bye week to rest
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 11: and get players healthy, that means they might be fresher
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 11: come the end of the season. I'm good with that.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: The transfer portal seems to be a thing that these coaches,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: and I know we went down to the single window
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: this year, but these coaches want to get a lot
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: of other stuff out of the way so that they
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: can rebuild their roster there. And I'm all four again
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: ending the season a couple weeks earlier, letting college football
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: be done even on New Year's Day, would be fine
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: with me. The fact that the transfer portal, which wasn't
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: even a thing six years ago, seven years ago now
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: is so influential in everything in college football.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: Do we know if this is good or bad for
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: the sport yet?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 11: I don't think we know. We're all just sticking our
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 11: toe in the water right now and trying to figure out, Okay,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 11: is this a way we can get this cleaned up?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 11: And is this the best path forward for us? And look,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 11: I do you think that the transfer portal window is
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 11: right now? The abbreviated model that we have which you
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 11: just alluded to, is better? Is it the best step forward?
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 11: I think time will only tell, because clearly what was
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 11: happening before was not the best method for everybody involved.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 11: Now you have more concise guidelines, and that's the only
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 11: way this thing is going to get back to where
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 11: it should be. The government says, oh, we're going to
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 11: chime in and try to do this and try to
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 11: you know, this is what we want to do. We
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 11: want to try to clean this up here. We'll see
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 11: if that actually happens. For years, the schools, the coaches,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 11: they were in control. Now the players seem to have
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 11: all the control. And that's a significant way the pendulum
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 11: has swung to the other side somehow. We got to
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 11: try to get in the middle where it benefits both
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 11: sides and not just one over the other.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: Our last thing, I promise, do you you the jack
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: of all trades and master of every single one? Do
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: you have the bandwidth to pay attention to the NBA
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: Draft Lottery coming this weekend as well?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 11: I only pay attention to it, Sean, because I see
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 11: a lot of the players in the regular season covering
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 11: as much college basketball as I do, so like, for example,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 11: getting to see the standouts from Arizona. I had Michigan
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 11: this year, so I got to see these players that
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 11: go high in the draft. So that's the only reason
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 11: why I pay attention to it. There is, you know,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 11: there's the bandwidth I have. I really don't follow the
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 11: NBA as closely as I used to, just because I
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 11: can't between Right now, I'm dialed in Major League Baseball,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 11: the Stanley Cup Playoffs, College baseball, which I'm getting ready
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 11: for conference championships, and then I'm doing two rounds of
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 11: the postseason, the Regionals and Supers, so I have to
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 11: be dialed in there. Major League Baseball, which I have
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 11: my first two games coming up this weekend. So at
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 11: some point, and I do have a family, I do
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 11: have a life, Sean, which people may not know.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: How dare you.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 11: My daughter's coming home from school, finishing her freshman year
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 11: at TCUs, so she's home tomorrow, you know. So I
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 11: do have to try to find some way have some
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 11: semblance of balance. So the NBA kind of goes by
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 11: the wayside for me. Like if you ask me right
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 11: now what's going on in the NBA playoff series, I
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 11: really couldn't tell you, especially living here in the Bayry.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 11: Once the Golden State Warriors were limited in to play in.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: I think it's fair.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: I think it's all right for you to have like
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: one tidy blind spots, you know what I mean.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: We'll let you off the hook on that one. Roxy.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: I love talking to you, man, love picking your brain.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: Thanks so much for giving us some time. Enjoy the weekend,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: keep having the great calls, and we'll chat again soon.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 11: All right, anytime, brother, talk to you soon.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: See, that's Roxy Bernstein.
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  Speaker 4: You will not find anyone in the business more knowledgeable
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: or better at the gig than him. He is an asset,
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  Speaker 4: He is an absolute dream, and he's a good friend.
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  Speaker 4: You heard it in James Peterson's Update Darren Peterson, James's cousin.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, long lost cousin, Darren. He told ESPN that creatine
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  Speaker 3: caused his cramping. We've been very concerned about him as
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  Speaker 3: a family.
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  Speaker 4: Over two hundred studies have confirmed that creatine supplementation does
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  Speaker 4: not increase the risk of muscle cramps. In fact, what
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  Speaker 4: creatine does is it pulls water into the muscles, which
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  Speaker 4: means it's more likely to prevent cramping than to hurt cramping.
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  Speaker 3: Darren, are you telling us the truth?
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  Speaker 1: So?
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  Speaker 3: He he is?
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  Speaker 5: Just for context at the beginning of this article by
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  Speaker 5: Ramona Shelburne on ESPN dot Com, says that a new
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  Speaker 5: round of blood work and other tests following the college
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  Speaker 5: basketball season led his doctors to conclude that high doses
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  Speaker 5: of creatine created the condition. Just just for context, I'm
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: not sure I believe it either, though.
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  Speaker 4: You know what high doses of creatine do cause stomach upset,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: diarrhea or bloating stomach cramps. Was Darren Peterson really just
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: having to miss all those games because he had the runs?
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: Is this a controversy that has not been And Kansas
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  Speaker 4: wears home whites, right.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: Well, it harkens back to another former Kansas great, Paul
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: Pierce in the NBA Finals, right right, and well he
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: was wearing the Celtics home whites.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe we've gotten to the bottom, literally the bottom of
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: Darren Peterson's absence. Maybe that's why Bill self was getting
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  Speaker 4: so frustrated. He wanted to say, he's just got poopy pants.
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  Speaker 4: Get out there and play kid where it put some
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  Speaker 3: And I hel's a real thing.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 4: You know how much money you could get out It
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  Speaker 4: depends if you're just like I wear these in order
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: to help me play basketball.
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  Speaker 5: The only costs to you is your shame. That's the
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: only cost your personal dignity, I mean, is it. I
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: mean Rafael pal Marrow in his prime with the Texas
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: Rangers was doing viagra commercials. So I mean guys, guys
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  Speaker 5: have done stuff like that for a good amount of
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  Speaker 5: endorsement money.
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  Speaker 4: Jimmy Johnson, he's, uh, he's endorsed, depends. Deon Sanders has endorsed, depends.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, Jimmy Johnson also endorsed like those Late Night
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: uh you know what pills like. He was like, it's
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: just a bunch of random pain actors. And then Jimmy Johnson.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: Johnson about uh the Doug Flutie Frank Thomas testosterone commercials.
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  Speaker 3: You see basketball games. I did not know this depends.
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  Speaker 4: Did something called the Great American try on campaign back
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  Speaker 4: in twenty twelve. In twenty thirteen, DeMarcus, where Clay Matthews
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  Speaker 4: and Wes Welker were all paid to test depends real
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: Emmitt Smith has been an endorser it depends recently too. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: you wouldn't be the first one, Darren. It's it's fine.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: You know who Lisa Renna is soap opera actress.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Just a very important formative crush of my young years. Okay,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: because my mom used to watch the soap operas. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: at list Arena, I can't remember what the character pretended.
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  Speaker 3: You hated it, but you're like, I am in this,
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  Speaker 3: I am tuned.
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  Speaker 4: In this show sucks. Who is that lady, Lisa Renna?
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: She endorsed depends that that actually kills me? Man, I
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: don't like that one bit. But anyway, there you have it.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: By the way, Darren Peterson, we got to the bottom
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: of it. It was he says creatine. He was taking
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: too much creatine and the cramps he was having were
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: bowel cramps. He was he was feeling gastric distress.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: That's that's the official Sean O'Connell's show theory. Yes, it's
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: not what he said in the article. To be clear,
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  Speaker 5: the official sean Conn.
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  Speaker 3: Don't let the.
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  Speaker 4: Truth get in the way of a good story, James,
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  Speaker 4: please just making sure.
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  Speaker 5: You know we're not complete, We're not completely deceiving our
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: audience too much.
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  Speaker 8: Here.
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  Speaker 4: The NFL has reached a deal with its Referees Association.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: They're ratifying a new seven year CBA. No replacement refs
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: will be used, Thank goodness. And I say thank goodness
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: more because I care about the quality of reffing in
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: college football, and the replacement refs that the NFL would
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: use would be like it just it all runs downhill
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: or in this case, uphill. If the college referees are
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: the best ones available, they go ref NFL games, and
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: then high refs are doing college games, and then imagine
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: little league refs are doing high school games, and then
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: like random parents are doing little league games.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: Can you imagine if Todd Newcomb was refing college games?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: How terrible would that be? I actually think that'd be awesome. Actually,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: Todd is Todd is like a dedicated referee.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: He's a serious referee. Is you know how serious he
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: is about it? He changes his physical appearance, he does
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: he shaves his mohawk during football season because he knows
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: a professional. He knows that if he's the guy out
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: there with the like orange mohawk refereeing a high school
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: football game, some yayhoo parents just.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: Gonna be like that guy, I don't know anything.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: And then and whenever he whenever he misses a call,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: which he never misses calls, Todd Newkem.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: He never missed his calls.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: But whatever he might, if he's if he's the one
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: with the blue hair mohawk, they they're gonna know that
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: it's it's gonna be even.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: Worse for him. So I gotta probably a good move
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: by him.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: Next time I see Todd, I gotta ask him if
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: what he would think about having like in game feedback
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: from some all seeing eye. Yeah, like the Major League
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: Baseball umpires have. I'm gonna ask him about that next
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: time I see him. Anyway, significant raises for the officials.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: No financial terms have been disclosed as of yet. Somebody
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: will dig that up. More formal offseason training programs with rafts.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: While players are doing mini camps and training camp and
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: joint practices, the rest will use those opportunities to hone
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: the aircraft as well. The NFL has agreed that they're
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: gonna help bring up more officials add to the pool,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: and the NFL will have greater latitude to use performance
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: metrics for postseason assignments rather than rather than seniority.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, this is an important change.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: Your merit determines whether or not you get to do
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: the playoff in the super Bowl.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: Not just I'm the same.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: Guy who's been here for forty years, so I get
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: to call the super Bowl.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: It grew that implied, the you know, the implied I'm
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: good at this because I have to be good at
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: this because I've been doing it for so long. Yeah,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: let's actually have some proof of how well you're doing
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: in order to get the best assignments.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, James, have you hurt yourself playing with your son yet?
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: Have you injured yourself?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: Not yet, other than the occasional stepping on one of
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: his like sharp toys, and but that not in anything serious.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: Now he's he's probably getting tall enough now that the
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: groin shots are coming.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: All right, That's just that's that's gonna happen.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: Sarah, Is there a company that has actually that makes
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: cups that I can endorse?
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: Actually it's actually depends they have they have a lightly padded.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: Dad's Underwe dude, we just came.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: Up with a billion dollar product on absolutely does it
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: have to be like a steal like the cup I
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: use for my like training practice for fight stuff is
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: literally steal. It's you tie it on with laces. It's
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: a muytai cup. Okay, it doesn't have to be that. No,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: something a lot more comfortable. Just something more comfortable right
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: after little like just a little like quadruple padded pouch
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: up there for you.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: Not a bad idea.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: We just do you know anyone who can manufacture such
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: a thing so that we can start making money off
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: We can find someone eight seven seven three five three zero, say,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: if you own a.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: Sweatshop eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: let us know.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: And for no reason in particular, I just want to know.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: Matthew Boyd Cubs pitcher Matthew Boyd had surgery on a
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: torn meniscus. He did not hurt himself pitching or playing baseball.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: He hurt himself playing with his kids. Oh man, tore
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: his knee. That sucks. That's terrible. That's just by the way.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: It's like.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: It's just part of life. Sometimes freak accidents happen. I
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: hope he doesn't get made fun of it, made fun
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: of for it, because like, playing with your kids is
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: a noble pursuit. It's more it's more important than playing
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: for the Cubs.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 5: So I applaud him for you know, do not shame
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: this man, Cubs teammates.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: He's being a good dad. He just that it hurt
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: his arm, and I mean it hurt his knee, and
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: that really sucks. And if he if you are gonna
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: shame him, Matthew Boyd, you better be ready to throw
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: his singer back and like, hey, well, at least I
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: know my kids' messed up actually, and then and then yes,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: I know my kids too.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: I play with them all the time, and I don't
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: hurt myself. That's what I'm making fun of you for.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I made assumption. Anyway, Matthew Boyd, he's out
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: for a while ont of moniscus surgery repair. I mentioned
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: with Bill Riley, the Hawaiian Bros. Restaurant in Kids City
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: offered a promotion where you get a free plate lunch
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: a free meal every time the Royals score six runs
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: in a home game.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: Just this season. Yeah, and we're not even through May.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 5: We're not even two months in. You canceled the promotion.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 5: They've altered the promotion. Now it's buy one, get one free, which,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: by the way, still it's still a generous offer. Yeah,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 5: but at least they're making they're making some money in the.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: By the way, the implication when a restaurant gives you
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: some kind of hey, come get a free Chick fil
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: A sandwich, the reason they do that is to get
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: you to show up at Chick fil A well, and
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: then you're gonna buy a drink. You're gonna buy like
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: they want you to buy more.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: Apparently, at Hawaiian Bros.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: People were just like, yep, I'll take my free plate
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: lunch please, because that's how Hawaiian plate lunches are.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: Everything's there. You don't need to get the sides. I'll
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: just drink water at home, thank you, exactly. I don't
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: I don't need your soda. Hawaiian Bros.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: I love that you're trying to do a promotion with
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: the team, with the community.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: This is great.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: These are fantastic six runs. First of all, you gotta
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: set the bar higher than that. They gave away seven
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars worth of free plate lunches. That is
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: a lot of money that is not coming into the business.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: You're absolutely the one. If if the Lakers missed two
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: free throws in the fourth quarter and you're at a
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: Jazz game, you get the free Chickplase sandwich, You're absolutely
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: the one. They're like, no, I don't need a drink,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: I don't need fries. I just want my sandwich. That's right, Yeah,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent, sir. Would you like a frosted Diet
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: coke code up? No, No, that costs money. I'm just
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: here for the free sandwich. Wait, it used to be
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: it's the diet coke. Do I get that free too?
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: Because Lebron sucks at free throws. Here's a dumb question.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: It used to be you would use your ticket stub.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: You go show them the back of your ticket. Right now,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: it's your deem it in the app.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 5: I think, oh, okay, I don't know if you put
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: the ticket number, but you have that.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: You have to open up the app.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: We got the airing of grievances coming up in forty
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: five minutes. Maybe a little preview grievance here the fact
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: that you can't get a paper ticket anymore grievance.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, well, we were talking we were talking about
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: you know where my mind went yesterday when you were
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: talking about how leagues and big events get a piece
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: of the resale on the secondary market. Yeah, my mind
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: was going, well, there's a way around this, right you.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: But then I was like, there's no paper tickets. You
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: can't just you can't just print them out and then
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 5: sell them not on on an online website, you know,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: so the league or the event doesn't get the extra
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 5: fifteen percent for it. So I don't know, maye or
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 5: unless you can text people, you can transfer people's tickets
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: via text not without necessarily selling them. Maybe you're like,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 5: you gotta give me cash and I will text you
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: the link.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you could do that.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: I guess that's the that's the workaround. If you don't
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: want the greedy World Cup organizers, you can to get
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: any more money people that.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: You actually know, it's easy to send them tickets, yeah,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: or sell them tickets if you're just trying to put
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 4: them out into the.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: Market, because that's the best most likely way to make
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: some money.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: You have to you have to either reduce your price
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: or just expect the other person, the person on the
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: other end to pay. Like, if I want to sell
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: you my tickets for five hundred bucks that I paid
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty dollars for, I actually have to
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: charge whatever, like five hundred and fifty bucks to get
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: the five hundred dollars payout. Yeah, and then on the
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: app you're actually paying six hundred bucks because you're paying
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: that percentage. Again on the seller and buyer are both
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: paying a percentage.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: Not good, not good? Not good?
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: All right, Johnny Football, when's the last time you worried
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: about him? James, Johnny Manziel, Johnny footballen's last time he
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: thought about him?
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a while, didn't he didn't.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: He have to skip out on a college game day
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: appearance this year and Alex Caruso had to fill in
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: for him last minute.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: I think that's right. I think that's the last time
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: I thought of Well.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: May twenty third, which is a Saturday at the UFC
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: APEX in Las Vegas, Nevada. They're doing a boxing event,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: an influencer boxing event, and it's called Brand Risk Promotions.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: It's owned by some streamer or whatever.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: Johnny Manziel is fighting, is boxing Bob Menory?
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: So should I know Bob Menory? I don't know.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: Isn't Bob Menory the guy he's like the fake announcer
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: He goes to like viral videos and does like sports
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: announcing on viral videos.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, Yeah, yeah, it looks like that's it.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: So Johnny Manziel has reached the point in his career
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: arc where he is just doing anything he can.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: For cash grabs. That sucks.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, play by play parodies, Yeah, that that does suck.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: Although I just I don't know, Like I said, don't
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 5: know anything about Bob Memory have not have not come
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: across any of his stuff. But one of the top
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: links in the Google search was the rise and Fall
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 5: of Bob Memory Memory.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: So maybe this is, Oh, he's had a rise and fall.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: I wasn't aware.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe this is, you know, depending on what's causing
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: the fall. Maybe Johnny. Maybe Johnny boxing like you've written down.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: Maybe he's just like, you know what, I'll I'll do
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: this just to punch Bob Menory.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: I hate the guy.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: By the way, the influencer boxing is like it's become
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: huge more I think more in Europe than in the
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: United States, in the UK it it was massive for
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: a while. I think it still is and I have
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: no idea why people like this at all. I mean,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: I guess it's just an extension of the Jake Paul
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: thing where he was in internet celebrity.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: He was an influencer influencer first.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: But the thing with Jake Paul is whether you love
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: him or hate him, and most people I think hate
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: him and want to see him lose. Jake Paul has
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: made himself into a professional boxer. He's a real professional
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: boxer now. That's what he spends his time on. That
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: is now his career. Logan trains Logan too, right.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: He's done. Not as good, but he's done.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: Logan Logan's more of a WWE wrestler now and they're
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: both podcasters still of course, But like Jake trains more
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: than probably most fighters do because he doesn't have to
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: work a job, right, Like every fighter I know, myself included,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: even on the climb to the highest levels, and some
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: of us when we made it to theist levels, had
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: other careers on the side. Now that's less common, but
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: like everyone on their way up is also a bouncer,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: or they're driving for ups, or they're doing something like
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: that doing radio, and maybe Jake Paul doesn't have to
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: do that, right, so he has made himself into a boxer.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: These other influencers, they're like streamers.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: They do this stuff so they don't have like real
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: regular nine to five jobs. But obviously when you if
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: you watch any of their low lights, they're not training
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: twice a day like Jake Paul is training. So everyone's
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: trying to do what he's doing. Cash grab like he
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: cash grabbed, but they're failing to recognize that, like he
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: made himself into an actual boxer. He manifested that career
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: out of his previous career, and these other idiots are
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: just like they're still doing their Twitch streams or whatever.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: And then they show up and they box and they
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: are terrible at it.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: They're awful. The fights are awful.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: Nobody's actually getting knocked out because they're not good enough
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: to knock each other out.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: It just sucks.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: You watch for ninety seconds while two people swing away,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: and then they're so tired for the rest of the
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: fight that they're just like winding up, swinging one missing,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: winding up swinging one, landing everyone's Oh nope, not powerful
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: enough to knock anyone out. It's the worst. And this
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: is what Johnny Manziel's getting involved in.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: Be honest, how much do you want to be invited
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: to do influencer boxing?
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: I honestly would not do it, Like I am shameless
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: and I will.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: I am very like. You pay me and I'll do it.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: You can tell I'm the og influencer.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: I'm a radio home I am a I am an
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: absolute humor when it comes to things that you're like,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: will you do this for money?
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: If they wanted me to fight Johnny Manziel on this card,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, I'm gonna pass. I don't want to
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 4: be part of Like if Jake Paul wanted to fight me,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: that's different. I would say yes to that now, But
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 4: like you don't want to be part of a farce,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: And I'll be a part of many farces, just not
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: this version of not this one.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: Like I'm just I'm just thinking.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: I thought maybe in the back of your mind, you
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: hear about these things, and you're.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: Like, I could I could destroy everybody?
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: Well, I could, and I could, I could make I
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: could get all the money. Maybe that I thought that
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 5: might have been more enticing to you.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 4: No, I I mean I got no beef with Johnny Manziel.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't think i'd feel good making ten
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 4: grand to knock him unconscious in front of the world.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: He's got substance abuse problems. You know, I don't want
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: to make that worse. Oh, you'd knock him unconscious, James,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 4: Come on, Come on, someone with zero combat experience.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, when when was your last fight?
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 5: No?
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: Two was New Year's Eve twenty eighteen. That was there
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: was the It was a million dollars. That was it.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: That was the last official fight. But you've how often
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: have you have you sparred?
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: I mean I've sparred hundreds of times. It's going to
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: be bad. They're gonna suck. They might get a ball
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: in a hoop every now and again, But if anybody
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: on a basketball court and say, try to throw the
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: ball into the hoop and they're gonna like their forms,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 4: is gonna look right.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 5: You just described every shooting contest and the timeout games
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 5: at Jazz games and other ABA games.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: Go look it up.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 4: Speaking of they, Connor McGregor, at the height of his fame,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 4: got to do something where he showed up with the
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: New York Knicks, or maybe it was Boston. Maybe the
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 4: Celtics brought him out because we were fighting at the
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: Boston Garden. I was on one of these events and
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: they like let him go on the parquet floor and
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: let him and they were like, here's the basketball and
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 4: he's trying to shoot a basketball. And you're like, oh,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: he's a great athlete. That's someone who's never picked up
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: a basketball in his entire life. Yeah, and you see
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: what that looks like. That's what all of you look
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: like when you try to fight. I just want to
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 4: let you know that. And you would destroy all of
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: them in like ten seconds. Not all of them, but
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: you know the people who don't know how to fight. Yes,
• 1:40:57
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: There's a group of guys tied for third at six under,
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  Speaker 5: at five under. Tony Final in the group right behind,
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  Speaker 4: us next next we haven't talked in forever.
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  Speaker 3: I feel bad. I'm a bad friend.
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  Speaker 4: But she's got good things going on in her life,
• 1:45:17
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  Speaker 4: as well. We'll discuss and then it's airing of Grievances.
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  Speaker 3: coming in twenty four ish minutes.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, though, we check in with Lauren Beck RSL
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  Speaker 4: Radio pre half and postgame show host.
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  Speaker 3: It has been way, way, way too long since we
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  Speaker 3: have spoken, Lauren, Welcome to the show. How are you.
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  Speaker 8: It has been a very long time. I was trying
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  Speaker 8: to think of how long. I can't place it. But
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  Speaker 8: I'm great.
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  Speaker 3: How are you doing great. It's good to hear you.
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  Speaker 4: And you've had amazing things going on in your personal life. Congratulations.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 4: A little bird told me you've had some major milestones recently.
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  Speaker 8: Oh yes, gosh, since since I last saw you, I
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 8: have two children, one of them is a month old now.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, we're on maternity leave, trying to get the
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 8: brain function back up, so you'll have to you'll have
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 8: to forgive the mom brain for a little bit of this.
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  Speaker 8: But yeah, it's absolutely crazy. I don't I can't believe
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  Speaker 8: I'm adult enough to have other human beings, to be
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 8: adults to be responsible for. But yeah, it's so fun.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to one up you, but I
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  Speaker 4: think I've had I've had three children since the last
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: time we spoke, so it.
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  Speaker 3: Has it has been.
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  Speaker 4: It has been way too long, and of course I
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 4: didn't have to do any of the work on that,
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  Speaker 4: so it doesn't really count.
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  Speaker 3: The same way.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get to some RSL here hot start for this team,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 4: really really interesting kind of soccer cycle that we're coming
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 4: up on. We are a month away from the biggest
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 4: sporting event in the world, the World Cup, being in
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: our you know, home country, not here in Salt Lake
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  Speaker 4: City unfortunately, but you know, you've got like this, this
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 4: inflection point for the sport of soccer that rolls around
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 4: every four years, and it feels being brought into that
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: much more focused by RSL's prominence right now and of
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 4: course by the fact that this is a World Cup
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  Speaker 4: happening in the United States. We'll stay with the club
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 4: for now, as you've seen the good start, the strong
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: start to what do we attribute the goal scoring and
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 4: the fact that this team is off to a good
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: beginning here in the season.
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  Speaker 8: Oh man, I just think the pro office has done
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 8: a really good job bringing these players. And you know,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 8: Pablo's been with the club for six years now and
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 8: he's been he's seen a lot of players coming and out,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 8: and he's done a good job with them, and we've
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 8: had some fun times, but it's been inconsistent where this
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 8: year with the players they've brought in the youth and
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  Speaker 8: then the players who've been around for a little bit
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  Speaker 8: as well, kind of finding their stride and that leadership.
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  Speaker 8: I think it comes down to formation change, to the
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 8: players they brought in and the chemistry. They all talk
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 8: about how strong that chemistry, how strong that locker room
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  Speaker 8: is right now, and that's kind of always been a
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 8: focal point for real Feltlake, but it's kind of been
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 8: lost in the last little while with stars coming in
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 8: and people coming and going from the club, I think,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 8: But it feels like everyone's really bought in and is
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 8: giving their all to this team right now, and I
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 8: think that's made all the difference for them.
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  Speaker 4: So the formation change is something that we've touched on
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 4: with kind of everyone that we've had on to talk
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  Speaker 4: RSL Soccer, and I'm really fascinated by the way something
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  Speaker 4: like that coalesces with the roster and with the personnel itself.
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  Speaker 4: I know that they wouldn't make a change to something
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  Speaker 4: that doesn't fit the bodies that you have. But from
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: your standpoint, was this a change that was brought to
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  Speaker 4: maximize the personnel or is the personnel being for not forced,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 4: but being asked to fit into an optimal formation?
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  Speaker 8: I think ideally, and what it seems like with RSL
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 8: is that it's suited to the players. We've seen a
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 8: lot of players come into RSL over the last couple
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 8: of years or over time really that their strengths don't
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 8: quite match the formation that the coach wants to play.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 8: I think more recently, Anderson Julio, who is now with
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 8: Sie Dallas, is a good example of that. He's he's
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 8: so fast, he wants that ball over the top and
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 8: to just run at his defenders. But that isn't the
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 8: way that Reale felt like played when he was here,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 8: and it just didn't quite work out where this formation
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  Speaker 8: change really suits the dribbling, the hold up play and
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 8: the skill that these players have right now, like Gozo
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 8: and Luna and Giavogie and Olatunji as well. So I
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  Speaker 8: think I think it's more you you want to fit,
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  Speaker 8: that you want to bring players in that fit your
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  Speaker 8: system that you have, rather than having to kind of
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 8: mold things together that don't quite fit. I think this
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  Speaker 8: is the best we've seen this roster built for the
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 8: formation that they're actually trying to play week in and
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 8: week out, and that's exactly what we're seeing is that
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 8: it's clicking and that that's working.
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  Speaker 3: What is the what is the home field advantage?
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 5: Like?
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  Speaker 3: Right now?
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  Speaker 4: I mean we go back to the championship year and
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 4: the years pursuing that championship and a newer club and
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 4: a fan base that was kind of figuring out its
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: identity the same way that the team was. And now
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 4: this is this is not an experiment anymore. This is
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: a died in the whole part of the sports culture
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 4: here in the state. And of course the identity of
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 4: a building, of a stadium, of a fan base kind
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: of evolves with that, and of course it also goes
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 4: up and down with the competitiveness of a team and
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: whether or not you're making deep runs in playoffs and
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 4: things like that. In this twenty twenty six campaign, what
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: are the supporters is the what is the building like?
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  Speaker 8: Oh, it's it's sold out every week. I can't remember
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 8: the exact number of consecutive sellouts now for real Salt Lake,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 8: but it goes back a good ways and you can
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 8: feel it in the stadium. I mean, they're five to
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 8: want to zero at home. The lone loss coming to
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 8: inter Miami, which quite frankly was a winnable game for RSL.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 8: And we always say that you get into the playoffs.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 8: With your home record and your away record is what
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 8: kind of climbs you up the table into those top positions.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 8: And RSL with that five to one and oh, it's
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 8: becoming a fortress again. It was a little leaky at
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 8: home there for a couple of years, but it's a
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 8: really strong start for RSL. You can feel it in
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 8: the stadium. They have those added stamps, the temporary setings
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 8: that they put in for the Miami game, and that
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 8: little extra boost has been It's been loud, and that
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 8: Miami game is like nothing I've ever seen. But this
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 8: feeling of the club and at America First Field this
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 8: season is different. It's exciting. Everyone's bought in. The fans
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 8: have been loud every single week it's been. It's been
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 8: quite a fun atmosphere change so far here.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: Up next to Houston. What do you expect in that matchup?
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 8: Well, they are similarly styled to Real Salt Lake. They
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 8: play the same formation, so it'll be really interesting to
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 8: see how RSL matches up against them. They sit right
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 8: under RSL on the table at home they're two one
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 8: in four, so not great at home so far, but
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 8: they have gotten some really good results it's a tough
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 8: place to play in Texas. It's not quiet summer, so
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 8: it won't be too bad down there for RSL, but
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 8: it's a strong opponent. The Western Conference is tough. I mean,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 8: if you look at Real Salt Lake on nineteen points,
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 8: they'd be tied for second place in the Eastern Conference,
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 8: but in the Western Conference they're in sixth. Every Western
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 8: Conference opponent is a tough one. It's going to challenge them,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 8: and that travel to Texas is tough as well, so
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 8: I think they'll expect to have a team coming at
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 8: them that attacks well. They have twenty goals scored for
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 8: them this season, which is just one more than RSL,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 8: and RSLs struggled to keep those clean sheets, just the
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 8: one on the year, and that came last week against Portland.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 8: So a team that's similar to them and a strong
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 8: attacking team. Ourselves had their challenges defensively and they've they've
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 8: folded on a few of those but still found a
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 8: way to get results. But on the road it's it's
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 8: a little bit tougher. But this is a different RSL
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 8: team mentally than we've seen the last few years. So
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 8: I think while it will be a challenging game. It
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 8: is a winnable one for RSL.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 4: We're coming up on the World Cup and with that
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 4: a World Cup break, and you know, it might not
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 4: be the best timing depending what these next couple of
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 4: matches look like. If you can build some more momentum,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: and it has been a strong early portion of the
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 4: season for this club, but I mean, the World Cup
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 4: pauses for nobody, and of course I imagine these players
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: have interest even if they're not participating. So when we
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 4: see this sort of global phenomenon event on US soil
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 4: and of course Mexico and Canada as well, taking a
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 4: portion of I don't know, I won't say an ideal season,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 4: but a really good so far season for RSL. How
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 4: is the club managing this and making sure that it
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 4: doesn't throw an obstacle in the way of a club
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 4: that is off to the right kind of start.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the question right now. Right you go into
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 8: this World Cup break, there's four more matches, two on
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 8: the road, two at home, and then you're done for
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 8: two months as a club. That's tough, and we've seen
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 8: that there's always a June international break in Major League
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 8: Soccer and coming back from that has never been very
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 8: kind to real Salt Lake, and the last couple of
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 8: years it's been where things have kind of fallen apart,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 8: particularly in twenty twenty four for RSL. So it's going
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 8: to be interesting. I'm not really sure how you handle
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 8: a two month break like that where you want to
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 8: keep your players in shape who aren't going to the
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 8: World Cup, but you know they also deserve a little
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 8: bit of that break, right, It's going to be absolutely
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 8: loaded once they come back from the World Cup break.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 8: It's a minimum of fourteen games in August and September
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 8: for this team, so you want to give them a
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 8: little bit of a break, but they've got to stay
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 8: in shape. Probably treat it a little bit like a
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 8: preseason with the players that stay in Salt Lake. But yeah,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 8: that international break in June typically is not too kind
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 8: to RSL. So who knows what a longer one will
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 8: look like for with this World Cup.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: For the World Cup tournament itself, there's been all of
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: the headlines so far, and I've been perpetuating this, so
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 4: I guess I'm guilty or complicit. It's about, you know,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 4: the price gouging. It's about like, how can you actually
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 4: afford to attend a World Cup game if you're a
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 4: big time soccer fan, and the FIFA presidents it's like, man,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 4: we're pricing this for a US market. This is this
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 4: is what you guys pay for tickets over here, and
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 4: we're the biggest event in the world.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: I'm really curious to.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 4: See if there's like a collapse of prices, if there's
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 4: a secondary market, you know, like just let me get
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 4: my money back for buying these things.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: I really have no idea how this is gonna go.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 4: Do you do you have any sense of how successful
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 4: or not this World Cup is going to be in
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 4: North America.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 8: Well, the reports are very conflicting. What the FIFA president
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 8: is saying is that games are filled out, and then
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 8: FIFA's coming out and saying, actually, they're not sold out.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 8: You know, they're talking about the pricing, and it's absolutely valid.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 8: The pricing is crazy.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 8: It's sure. You can claim you're you're selling to a
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 8: US market and this is this is the market, but
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 8: it really isn't. In this economy, and with with the
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 8: number of games there are and how spread out it
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 8: is and the hotels and the travel and everything else.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 8: It's it's been a lot of finger pointing between FIFA
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 8: and the host cities and whoever else is involved. And
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 8: it's unfortunate because it is such a big event to
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 8: see that the US is opening match. The lowest tickets
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 8: are just under one thousand dollars at this point. I
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 8: do think they will drop. We've seen drops in ticket prices.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 8: I think they'll continue to drop as the tournament gets
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 8: closer and games aren't selling out. But you're looking at
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 8: the resale market right now is off the charts. There
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 8: are tickets listed for the final in the millions of dollars,
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 8: and no one's going to do that.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 4: Two point three dollars for a single game in anything.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 4: It's like if maybe if I.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: Get to play like me, I'll get me on the field.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 3: If I get.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 4: To participate in the World Cup final, Sure, two point
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 4: three million, but come.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 8: On, well, and he's saying I'll bring a hot dog
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 8: in a coke to anybody who came. Not much for
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 8: those that's that's not quite the compensation. I'm sure anybody
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 8: would look for it. But yeah, it's the market's pretty
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 8: crazy right now for those tickets. And it's unfortunate because
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 8: you it's they never seen ticket prices like this before
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 8: for the World Cup, it's usually not pricing out the
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 8: average person, but I think those tickets will drop. They're
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 8: not selling out even the US games, so I think
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 8: I think we'll see those prices drop as people as
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 8: it gets closer, and people will be able to fill
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 8: those stadiums. But it is an unfortunate situation and hopefully
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 8: they can get things sorted with the transit as well
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 8: in all of these various places. I think to the
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 8: everyone from Europe, I think doesn't realize and vice versa
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 8: how big the US is and how big these cities are,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 8: and that they are not really walkable. So I think
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 8: that's been a bit of a shock for a lot
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 8: of people who are planning their trips to come to
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 8: the World Cup as well, that they're not going to
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 8: be able to really walk from their hotels to these
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 8: stadiums in most of those games. So yeah, there's a
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 8: there's a lot, a lot to learn, I think from
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 8: everybody involved in this, uh this World Cup this year.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, it's interesting because if you are lucky
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 4: enough and you go to some of these European cities,
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 4: there's you know, they drop their football stadiums right in
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 4: the middle of everything else for the most part, and
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 4: that is not necessarily our way. Now some cities are
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 4: like that in the United States, but that's not necessarily
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 4: our way here in the States, like and so uh
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 4: that that's I guess I'm trying to figure out the
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 4: right way to phrase this question because I feel like
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 4: it is in important to make sure that the global
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 4: community has a good time at the World Cup. Like,
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 4: we are not exactly the most popular on the world
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 4: stage sometimes, and if you screw up the World Cup,
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 4: if you're price gouging all these people that are already
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 4: paying lots of money to come here to participate, to
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 4: come here to be part of the World Cup in
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 4: the United States, and then you make it more difficult
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 4: for them to enjoy it or cost prohibitive for them
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 4: to enjoy it. I feel like that is like a
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 4: massive pr mistake for the country. And I know that
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 4: the whole country isn't making these policies, and a lot
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 4: of it is FIFA and whatever, but I don't know.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 4: I'm just I'm a little bit nervous about that about
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 4: everyone leaving the North American World Cup and be like,
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 4: we don't ever want to go back there.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 8: That place sucks, Yes, and it's kind of a precursor
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 8: to the Olympics in la as well, where you know,
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 8: how are things going to go with all of this
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 8: as well? And you would help with the US having
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 8: so much experience hosting big events that there would be
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 8: a little bit more organization and it might go a
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 8: little bit smoother and maybe as it happens it will
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 8: be fine. But yeah, I've seen the discourse of oh,
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 8: the US shouldn't be involved in this, how are we
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 8: letting the US host this World Cup? And I can
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 8: kind of understand it to a point because again, with
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 8: a transit alone, that's something that people weren't expecting and
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 8: didn't realize it was such an issue in a lot
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 8: of places. And I mean you look at New Jersey
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 8: and they're still working that out with FIFA and keeping
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 8: their trains and whatnot affordable for everybody who's going to
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 8: and from games. So yeah, you just you got to
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 8: hope it's a good experience. But it seems like it's
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 8: off to a rocky start. And this is the event
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 8: every country in the world wants to host, the World Cup.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 8: It's an honor, it's the biggest event in sports other
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 8: than the Olympics, and you can't screw it up. So yeah,
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 8: hopefully in this next month and change, some things get
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 8: worked out and it makes they make some good changes
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 8: and the differences are made because it needs to be
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 8: as you said, it needs to be a good experience.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 8: You don't want people leaving this World Cup saying the
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 8: US can't ever do that.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 4: Again from an actual soccer standpoint, what is the team
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 4: USA ceiling in this tournament?
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 3: Oh uh?
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 8: Pressure, so much pressure as one of the host countries,
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 8: as a team that's been not performing very well in
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 8: recent games. I mean Portugal and Belgium are good teams.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 8: They a lot of people have them kind of higher
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 8: up in their rankings for this World Cup, but tough
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 8: results against those guys. In March, you have a couple
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 8: friendlies coming up to warm up for the World Cup
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 8: Senegal in Germany. Those will be crucial for the US.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 8: But the pressure's got to be mounting. Christian Pelisic has
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 8: not scored a goal in twenty twenty six for his
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 8: club or country, and that's going to add to his
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 8: pressure as the face of the US men's national team.
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 8: I think it's time magazine that he's on the cover
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 8: for like today I think it was released, So lots
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 8: of pressure on him, but he has Last time he
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 8: had a streak like this where he wasn't scoring goals,
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 8: he scored some of his biggest goals of his career
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 8: coming out of that. So hopefully the pressure makes diamonds
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 8: in this situation. But hosting and having the last couple
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 8: of results not go their way and having your top
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 8: players not quite performing where you'd at, that pressure for
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 8: them is going to be mounting for sure.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 4: This is a very ignorant question, and I apologize for it,
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 4: but like, how how how said it? Could you make
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 4: a change a desperation change if I know you're not
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 4: gonna do it with Pulistic just because he's cold, But
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 4: can you make a change on the men's national team
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 4: roster like the day before the World Cup starts? I mean,
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 4: how set does the roster have to be a month out?
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 8: Pretty well, right now it's it's not and nothing's been decided,
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 8: but I think it's the twenty sixth that they announce it.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 8: I can't remember the specific rules for bringing players in
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 8: after the roster is announced. There may be some injury
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 8: exceptions depending on the situation, but it's usually pretty set
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 8: once it's set. It is a big roster, though, and
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 8: that does accommodate for injuries or other issues. It's a
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 8: bigger roster than you would normally have for a typical
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 8: call up. But yeah, it's it wouldn't be too It
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 8: would be a pretty big thing to make any any
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 8: big changes. I don't know how big you can really
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 8: swing with the current pool of US players, but you know,
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 8: you have players who've been performing really well in Europe
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 8: and in Major League Soccer for the US. Hopefully they
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 8: can pull it off. I think the talent is there.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 8: It's just been a matter of putting it together with
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 8: the team, which is a hard thing because they're not
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 8: together very often. So individually they might be great players,
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 8: they might play really well with their club team, but
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 8: when you come in as a national team, you're not
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 8: spending a lot of time together. So those couple weeks
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 8: of training before the World Cup are going to be huge.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 8: Those friendlies on May thirty first in June sixth are
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 8: also going to be huge for the US.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 4: Lauren, I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 4: giving us some time today. The time of a new
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 4: mom is like the most valuable time on planet Earth.
• 2:06:51
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• 2:06:54
  Speaker 4: that's a real gift. Thank you, congratulations and all the
• 2:06:57
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• 2:06:59
  Speaker 4: a great job on pre half and Post for RSL
• 2:07:02
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• 2:07:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's great to talk to you, Sean, have a
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 8: great day. Thanks for having me on.
• 2:07:08
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• 2:07:13
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• 2:07:17
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• 2:07:21
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• 2:07:25
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• 2:07:27
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• 2:07:29
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• 2:07:31
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• 2:07:34
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• 2:07:37
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  Speaker 1: to one, alf Am, The tradition of Festivus begins with
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 1: the airing of grievances.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 3: I got a lot of problems.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: With your people.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 3: Now you're gonna hear about it alright.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 4: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. How
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 4: is the time to text us? To call us to
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 4: air your grievances? Here on a Friday, Get it off
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 4: your chest, head into the weekend, unburdened, free of angst.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna start with the minor grievance air against Shay
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 4: Gildess Alexander. I saw you, Shay. It was a dirty
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 4: play against Austin Reeves. It was dirty. The flaggrant one
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 4: was appropriate, but maybe even borderline week for what you did.
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 4: That was a serious violation of the protocols around basketball sportsmanship.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 3: So I got my own USGA. And you're not the
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 3: boy Scott everyone likes to pretend you are.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 5: And I'm gonna I'm gonna speak for you for a second.
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 5: I want to fight you in a jiu jitsu match
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 5: and I'm gonna do that.
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 4: To your arm and it'll be frowned upon. Yeah, frowned upon.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 4: I'll get a flagrant. Yeah I won't. I was speaking
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 4: for you. How about this is coming in hot already
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 4: with the grievances Curtis Bingham. The idea paying extra for
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 4: cheese on a cheeseburger, it's called the cheeseburger. Just include
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 4: the price of said cheese within the cost, not an
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 4: additional charge.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 3: Thanks, have a great weekend. Absolutely.
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's a burger, If it's a burger and
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 4: you have to pay for the cheese, fine, If it's
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 4: a cheeseburger and you have to pay for the cheese.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 3: No labeled a hamburger, you know what I think? Also?
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that actually if you want extra cheese,
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 4: that should also be free.
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 3: It's a cheeseburger.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 4: If you want extra cheese on a cheese pizza, I
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 4: think you should be able to say extra cheesey please,
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 4: because guess what, James, when people are just like, hey,
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 4: light on the sauce, light on the cheese, like, they don't.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 3: Reduce the price. Get all balances out at the end.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 4: You have many times I've been like, no, no salad
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 4: dressing please on my salad.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 3: Are you gonna charge me less for the salad? No?
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 4: So when someone says I would like extra, don't charge
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 4: them for that.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 5: That's what we need to do in order to get
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 5: into this influencing boxing. You need to start doing TikTok
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 5: videos of you asking for the price to be reduced.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 4: That's a great idea for things like that, I would
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 4: like a bacon cheeseburger. Light on the bacon please. There's like, oh, yeah,
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 4: no problem. Are you gonna take fifty cents off?
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 11: No?
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 3: Why not?
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 4: If I ask for extra bacon you charge me a dollar?
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 4: You take you think so, yeah, I will further your grievance, Curtis,
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 4: and I will say you need to as a restaurant,
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 4: you need to let it all balance out. You need
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 4: to realize that some people are asking for things without
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 4: and some people are asking for things with extra, and
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 4: it probably balances. Of course, I have no actual working
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 4: knowledge of whether or not it really bad balances, and
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 4: I just sit here and I spew nonsense into a
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 4: microphone for a living.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 3: But that is my very deeply held belief. Now, so
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 3: take that you do have an MBA, so you have credentials,
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 3: you have business careers.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 4: So someone actually, someone actually presented me like the profit
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 4: loss associated with the charging of extra or not charging
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 4: of extra, then I could interpret it properly. But for now,
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 4: ignorance is bliss. So I'm gonna stay here.
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 5: You're not ignorant, though you have an MBA, so they
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 5: should they should trust you.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 4: My grievance would be any cheap shot to a fight. Okay, yeah,
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 4: that's that is a grievance. And this becomes from nineteen
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 4: forty three because yesterday at the media face off for
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 4: the UFC card this weekend, Hamzat Chimayev kicked Sean Strickland
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 4: during the face off and it looks like maybe maybe
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 4: his knee got compromised some way. The thing with this is, yes,
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 4: it's dirty. The thing with this is, though, like it's
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 4: why you don't act like a jackass before the fight
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 4: is happening, Like, you don't act like you better hold
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 4: me back, you better hold me bet No, you walk
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 4: up like a professional. You said, let's get this photo,
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 4: let's share a couple of words, whatever, But let's not
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 4: compromise our ability to compete. Let's not compromise our ability
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 4: to make the actual money. Because one thing that every
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 4: fighter knows about MMA, about boxing.
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 3: You don't get paid unless you act fight.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 4: So if you're doing this tom foolery at the weigh ins,
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 4: at the face offs, that is threatening your ability to fight.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 4: You're just an emotionally unregulated moron. Like you can say
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 4: whatever you want to be at the weigh ins, and
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to physically attack.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 3: You because I get to physically attack you tomorrow for money.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 5: Hey, you know you don't want to compromise your money. Yeah,
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 5: absolutely not. That makes complete sense. It's crazy that that
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 5: was our blue collar worker texting in to shout out
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 5: to you nineteen forty three.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 4: How about this, Taylor says, not agreements, but I think
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 4: that Shawn and his wife should get those tickets at
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 4: Big Willie's because Seawan is awesome, and I'm sure his
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 4: wife is twice as awesome.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, great words, Pat you listening.
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 4: That's a second, this is amazing. From fifty three to
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 4: ninety one. A grievance when my wife insist I'm going
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 4: to home deeper with me when I'm going for a
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 4: couple of things and she makes me look at stuff
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 4: she knows we are not buying. That is often just
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 4: the shopping experience of a married couple, And to be fair,
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 4: I think it goes both ways. Like if your wife
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 4: is going to a store to just she knows what
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 4: she's getting and you tag along, You're like, well, I
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 4: also need pellets for the trager grill, it's probably She's like, no,
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 4: dang it. I wanted this to be quick. I wanted
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 4: this to be easy. I don't want the big flat
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 4: palette thing to push around. I just wanted to get
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 4: in and out of here. I my wife gets mad
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 4: at me because she'll just I'll be like, I like
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 4: taking my kids grocery shopping. I like taking them to Costco.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 4: I know that's a hot take. Other people hate that.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 4: I really enjoy it because you know, their little perspective
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 4: on the world is hilarious, and they love the samples.
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 4: They get all excited about the samples, and so do I.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 5: You know, you're putting Costco out of business with how
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 5: much they're eating.
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 4: I love taking and it's like it kills two birds
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 4: with one stone. My wife a little break, so I'm
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 4: getting in her good graces. I love taking them. And
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 4: then she'll sometimes be like, I want to come too,
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 4: and I'm like no, and she gets mad.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 3: She's like why.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 4: I'm like, because I already know. Costco's gonna cost me
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 4: three hundred and something dollars. If you come, it's gonna
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 4: cost me five hundred and something.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 5: She's just trying to add to the great family outing.
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 3: Oh see, it's additioned by subtraction. I'm sorry.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 4: I don't want you there, because what we need is
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 4: we need cheese, we need salta, we need chicken. We
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 4: need some fruit, we need some celery. I need toilet paper.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 4: We still have a young one. We're getting out of
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 4: the diapers into the pull ups, but I gotta buy those.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 4: I'm getting some dog food. I know what I'm getting,
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 4: all right. I need forty eight eggs. I go buy
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 4: two of the two dozen egg things. I've got the
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 4: system down. Well, I want to come, no, because I
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 4: don't want to buy a new vacuum cleaner while we're there.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 5: No grievance echoed. That turned intow York grievance, Do you
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 5: have any do you have anything you mind? J I do,
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 5: And mine's a little mine's a little niche here. So
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 5: Stanley Cup playoffs here in town. It was fantastic. I
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 5: don't have any problem with with the the interrenia experience
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 5: and anything like that. One thing I noticed, though, because
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 5: I when I drive into I drive into town. I
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 5: live not too far out of town. I drive past
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 5: the Delta Center on UH on third West and you
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 5: see the front of the building, and I was like,
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 5: hold on, NBA playoffs, they typically have some kind of
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 5: banner banner that says NBA Playoffs. I wonder why they
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 5: don't have that for NHL. That's weird. They did have
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 5: one OC it was just on the back facing the gateway.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 5: I didn't find that out until after they were eliminated.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 5: I'm like, hold on, what are you doing that? You
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 5: put it on the wrong side. So that's my grievance.
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 5: You gotta put it on the front of the building.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 3: You gotta put it.
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like where the plause is at, where the
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 4: puck and the note.
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 5: Where everything that's catered to all the all the fans,
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 5: the team stores right there, the main box office where
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 5: you're buying concert tickets, that's all right there. That's clearly
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 5: the front, not the one facing the gateway. Obviously there's
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 5: more there's more traffic as far as people driving around
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 5: in the front of the building too, not the other side.
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 5: So like you got to put the big cool we
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 5: made the playoffs banner there.
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 3: You see that they're.
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 4: Building that giant parking structure on the gateway side.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 3: I did see that.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was that's part of the announced of the renovation.
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they said they put a video out. I haven't
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 4: We've been on the show, so I haven't been able
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 4: to watch it yet. But it's supposed to be done
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 4: before next season.
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, like the whole renovation, I think it's
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 5: supposed to be done.
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 5: Brogan Houston had a really good question in that first
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 5: press conference before the with Ryan Smith and and Gary
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 5: Bettman before Game three, the first home game, Yeah, asking
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 5: so will a deep playoff run, how much will that
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 5: delay you like, how much will that affect the renovations
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 5: before next season? And he said a riot. Smith was
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 5: actually really funny about it. Jim Olsen CEO. I think
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 5: he's CEO anyway, he's a he's a big big wig
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 5: in Smith Entertainment Group with the jazz and and uh mammoth.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 5: He was sitting in the front row in the media
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 5: seats and he says, Jim's right there. What's really funny
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 5: is he's this is part of his job to stress
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 5: about this stuff, and he is stressing about it. Uh,
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 5: but we all would welcome a deep playoff run. But yeah,
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 5: it's going to affect it would affect some things, so
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 5: good problem. But now anyway it's over, so it's not
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 5: gonna affect it too much. Okay, So that was pretty funny.
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 5: But put it on the other side and James is happy. Yeah, like,
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 5: I don't understand why you why you went through the
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 5: trouble to buy and put up that big cool post.
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 5: It was a cool like we made the playoffs. This
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 5: is awesome poster. No one saw it because it was
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 5: on the back of the building, Like put it in
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 5: the front.
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, I have a I have a pretty serious grievance here.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 4: I have a grievance, James that indirectly almost led to
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 4: you probably having to fire me from this show. I gosh,
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 4: so when I was all promise immunity, when I was
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 4: getting on the airplane last week to go to Sue Falls,
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 4: my wife called me very upset, and I was just like, oh,
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 4: my gosh, what's going on. They were doing a fundraiser
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 4: for my daughter's school, her and another mom in the neighborhood.
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 4: And between the two of them, these two young women,
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 4: lovely young women, had six children, aging from six months now.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 4: He's like a year old now, like a year old
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 4: to ten years old. Okay, all in there. I've got
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 4: a two year old, a four year old, a seven
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 4: year old. Okay, they're having They were fundraising by having
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 4: a little bake sale.
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 4: Effectively, had set up a little lemonade stand. It was
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 4: just a folding table on a sidewalk and our street.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 4: Nobody's driving past the street that this other family lives on.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 4: Nobody's driving past. So they went a block up the
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 4: road to a more well traveled thoroughfare. Okay, set up
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 4: on a corner. It's a big corner, lot of traffic,
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 4: not high speed traffic, but a lot of people driving
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 4: through the neighborhood's major thoroughfare through the neighborhood.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 5: Okay, highly coveted spot for the lemonade standards.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 4: It's just a spot, yeah, right. And they were on
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 4: the corner like of an intersection. Of course, there's somebody
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 4: who lives in the nearest house, but they're on the sidewalk.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 3: Okay. The homeowners come out and just like.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 4: Hey, could you guys be careful, make sure you don't
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 4: step on the plants.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no problem, okay cool.
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 4: And then apparently said homeowner, this was the woman of
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 4: the couple, was the first one, Hey, please watch out
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 4: for the plants.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, no problem. Kids, make sure you don't step on
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 3: the plants. Okay, no problem. And then and then a
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 3: short time later, the.
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, gentlemen, not a gentleman, complete moron
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 4: comes roaring up high speed in his car, gets out
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 4: and starts berating my wife and this other mom, screaming, yelling, cursing,
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 4: dropping f bombs on these two women and six children.
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 4: I didn't find this out till after I'm on an airplane.
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 4: My grievance is with bad neighbors. Okay, he was worried
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 4: about the plants that they had just planted. I don't
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 4: give a bleep about your stupid plants. We live in
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 4: a society where human relationships are a lot more important
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 4: than any cost that you have spent on your lawn,
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 4: than any decoration you have put in front of your house.
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 3: Nobody wants to live in.
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 4: A neighborhood where the teenagers are running rampant and destroying
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 4: property and stuff. But even if that is happening, as
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 4: an adult, you should be a good neighbor, and you
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 4: should understand that there's just like part of this, kids
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 4: setting up a lemonade stand with their moms to fundraise
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 4: for the school that's down at the end of your
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 4: road should not be something that upsets you enough to
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 4: where you are getting dang near physical with two women.
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 3: Don't be a bad neighbor.
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 4: The other grievance I have is actually with the prevalence
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 4: of ring doorbell cameras.
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 3: Because did you get caught doing something? No, Okay, I
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 3: didn't do.
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 4: Anything because I would have been caught. Yeah, Because after look,
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 4: I can't let that stuff slide, James, I can't when
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 4: my wife calls me and is crying because some idiot
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 4: was yelling and cursing at her while she's literally holding
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 4: our child and this other mom is literally holding their
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 4: child in her hands, and we've got the other kids there.
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 3: It's a dangerous situation.
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just trying to They're just trying to supervise
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 5: a bake sale.
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, when that happens, and I am like feeling this
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 4: impotent rage because I can't help, right, And then I
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 4: go and I do my work, and she was fine
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 4: and everyone was fine.
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 3: It was fine.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 4: Right, they packed up and left and they and I
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 4: was like, I just can't let that stuff slide. So
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 4: I allegedly I may or may not have gone to
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 4: have a conversation with the offending individual. And the unfortunate
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 4: reality is that I was not able to express myself
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 4: the way that I wanted to because doorbell camera technology
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 4: creates a technological witness to any bad behaviors, so I
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 4: couldn't deliver the message that I allegedly would have preferred
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 4: delivering in a more effective and definitive manner, that you
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 4: don't threaten people's wives and children. Ever, that's my grievance.
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 4: That's terrible Look, if you come home and there are
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 4: five year old and six year olds destroying your garden
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 4: and your lawn, you still don't get up in their
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 4: faces and yell and curse at them their children. Yeah,
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 4: if they just happen to be in a place that
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 4: you don't like them being, you definitely don't do that.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 4: My grievance is with any of you out there who's
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 4: a bad neighbor, or anyone who feels like, well, I'm
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 4: justified in expressing my bother over this. No, you're not
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 4: not that way. We live in neighborhoods, people. We are
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 4: a society of friendly American folks that should you know
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 4: what you should do. If someone sets up the lemonade
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 4: stand out in front of your house, you go and
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 4: you buy something from the lemonade stand, and you say,
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 4: isn't it great that we live in a place where
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 4: kids and parents feel safe in doing this? Isn't it
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 4: wonderful that we live in a neighborhood where you can
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 4: have people driving by in their cars, honking, waving, maybe
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 4: pulling over.
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll support your little school fundraiser. That's what we
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 3: should be focusing on here. And guess what I didn't
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 3: have this dance just because I'm a dad.
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 4: Now my entire life, I have stopped at the lemonade
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 4: stand and I have given money to the dang kids,
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 4: because that is something you remember when you're a little kid.
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 4: Grievance aired, I feel better.
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I related one that I that I just remembered.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 5: Not anything that happened to me. But I know someone
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 5: who works for like one of those CNA type companies
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 5: where you go and you take care of often elderly people, right,
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 5: and you spend you keep them company, and you take.
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 3: Care of whatever whatever they need.
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 5: Apparently there's a neighbor of one of these clients who
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 5: freaks out whenever someone's loitering on the sidewalk in front
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 5: of their house public property for public provis sidewalk, So
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 5: like he comes out, Apparently he will. He's there all day.
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 5: He's an older, older person, so he he's just home
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 5: all day. So apparently whenever he perceives someone spending too
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 5: much time on his sidewalk, yeah, he'll let him know
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 5: about it in a very rude way, probably similar to
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 5: how your neighbor that you you just described would do it.
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 5: And so finding out about this, I tell my wife
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 5: about it. She's like, we should we should go get
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 5: some camping chairs and just just have a great time
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 5: on his sidewalk, like the so grievance against bad neighbors,
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 5: but also echoed that, but also like grievance against people
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 5: who think that the sidewalk is theirs, Like that's not trespassing.
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 3: We can stand here for as long as.
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 1: We go on.
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 4: So when I allegedly went to have a discussion with
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 4: this offender, I was like, it's the sidewalk, it's public property.
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 3: Relax.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 4: This person felt fully justified in their reaction by saying, well,
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 4: it's against ordinances to block a sidewalk, it's against the rules.
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 4: I was like, so you feel good about that reaction
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 4: over children setting up a little fundraising table on a
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 4: sidewalk because it blocked the ordinance. It goes against the
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 4: city ordinances. And he was just dug all the way
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 4: in and felt really smugly good about himself. You don't
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 4: know the ordinances, like I don't know the ordinances. And
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 4: there's the smugness. And then I looked at the ring
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 4: camera and I was like, man, I wonder if he
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 4: knows allegedly that this is saving his life right now allegedly,
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 4: and he probably doesn't allegedly.
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 3: Ooh, bad neighbors, man terrible, don't be bad neighbors.
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 4: In fact, let's all this weekend to overcompensate for the
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 4: fact that those types of people exist in the world.
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 4: Let's all spend this weekend Mother's Day weekend being extra
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 4: good neighbors. Can we do that together, friends and family
• 2:28:34
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• 2:28:36
  Speaker 5: How about we picked the flowers that were just planted
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 5: at a certain house and give them to our mothers.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, I have thought of some very creative ways to
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 4: make my revenge, but that would be unchristian and not
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 4: what I want to do with my life and a
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 4: bad example.
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 5: You're trying to be a good neighbor. That would not
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 5: be a good neighbor. Form high road. I'm not really
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 5: good at the high road thing. I'll tell you that.
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 5: It is that natural for me. I feel unburdened.
• 2:29:03
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  Speaker 3: Did you know? Yes?
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  Speaker 12: That's That's the point of me being in this room
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 12: is is it would have just come to hang out
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 12: with me? Well, I mean, if you invited me to,
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 12: I would. I've never even been on the Shout O'Connell show.
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 12: I don't think it hurts my feelings. I'll come in
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 12: studio and do a segment with you, especially if you're
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 12: wearing a shirt like that.
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 9: That's a good looking shirt.
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 3: I bet you could guess who bought the shirt for.
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 9: Me, Kendall, not me. Yeah, that's right. Is that a
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 9: Tommy Bahama?
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is?
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 9: Wait, do you have a chest tut?
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 3: You didn't know that?
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 9: Calm down, Murph, I'm just asking questions.
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 3: Don't do that.
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 12: What's the chest tat? It's a stained glass angel? Is
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 12: there meaning behind it?
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 9: How many tats do you have?
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 3: Six?
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 9: Six?
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 3: But it's like.
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 4: Chest, whole chest, whole, back, whole side, whole side, full arm,
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 4: whole arm.
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 12: I've always been afraid to get one because with my
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 12: personality type, I think if I got one, I'd show
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 12: up in two weeks and I'd be covered.
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 4: I want to be covered. I don't have the time
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 4: to make myself fully covered.
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 12: See I like I like Beckham's neck tat that you
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 12: can kind of see a little bit, you know, like
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 12: big back neck tat.
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 3: David Beckham could make anything look cool.
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 12: Though, what are you saying about me? I think I
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 12: can pull most things off. No, you're saying something, say
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 12: it out loud. Grievance you won't say you won't, you
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 12: won't say it.
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 3: A grievances you want to air? Say again, do you
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 3: have any grievances you want to air?
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 12: Your your your story about the neighbor brating your poor
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 12: wife fired me up and knowing you the way I do. Uh,
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 12: nice job by you that he is still among the living.
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  Speaker 3: I allegedly, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: If there had not been a doorbell camera, yeah, things
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  Speaker 4: would be very different for him in his life today.
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  Speaker 4: But allegedly how old is this gentleman? Well, that also
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  Speaker 4: helped him because he's about my dad's age. Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 4: which makes it even less excusable.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, for sure. It reminded me so my little brothers.
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  Speaker 12: My brother Nate has always been He was an entrepre
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 12: or at the age of five, okay, and he's continued
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 12: to this day.
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  Speaker 9: He's built this massive company. I probably should have been.
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  Speaker 12: Nicer to him, but he and my other two little
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  Speaker 12: brothers during the summer would set up a lemonade stand
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  Speaker 12: at the end of our street. And there was just
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 12: one lady in the neighborhood that constantly was giving them
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 12: crap and complaining, calling the authorities. The police would show
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  Speaker 12: up and be like, what their kids selling lemonade? Miss
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  Speaker 12: calm down? She would like like they would leave the
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  Speaker 12: lemonade stand to go get more supplies, and she would
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  Speaker 12: like tip their table.
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  Speaker 9: Over and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It's so sad.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, And so it was like their older brother of course.
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  Speaker 10: Uh.
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  Speaker 12: One day, I was fifteen, sixteen years old, so I
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  Speaker 12: walked with them to set up the lemonade stand. And
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 12: when she came out, you know, as a sixteen year
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  Speaker 12: old punk older brother would do, I am after her
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  Speaker 12: up and up and down. So my mom, it's like,
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  Speaker 12: did you what was her name? I don't know we'll
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  Speaker 12: say miss Johnson or whatever. Did you use the F
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 12: word in the direction of Miss Johnson. I'm like, yeah, yeah,
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 12: I did. As a matter of fact, my poor parents,
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 12: there was a Oh, here's a grievance. It's not timely
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 12: on the calendar. Grievance for carollers. Christmas carollers. Okay, I
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 12: have a grievance for people to show up at your house,
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  Speaker 12: knock on the.
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  Speaker 9: Door and make you listen to them sing. Does this
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  Speaker 9: happen to you ever?
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  Speaker 12: You get knocks on the door during the holiday season
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  Speaker 12: where carrollers will come and make you listen to them.
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  Speaker 4: So, can I tell you something. I've seen this on
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 4: movies and television. I have never, once in my entire
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 4: forty two years of existence, actually encountered real Christmas carollers.
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  Speaker 9: Let me tell you a story.
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  Speaker 12: Okay, it's timely based off of bad neighbors, because in
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 12: this instance, I was the bad neighbor. So one year
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  Speaker 12: we used to try to take trips during the holiday
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 12: season because you know, my dad had a little time off.
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 12: And one year I had to stay home for basketball
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  Speaker 12: practice at our holiday tournament. Well, my family left. I
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  Speaker 12: was seventeen years old. I'm the only one of the house.
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  Speaker 12: And you know how here you're the the LDS ward boundaries.
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 12: Here you could live across the street from someone and
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 12: be in a different ward right, So but back there
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 12: it's much different. Okay, So like the steaks are, you know,
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  Speaker 12: our stake center was like a four hour drive one
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  Speaker 12: point so in order to carol for ward members, carrolers
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 12: have to gather and then drive like twenty minutes to
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 12: the home where they want to sing.
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  Speaker 9: And my dad was the stake president.
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  Speaker 12: But I'm home alone, okay, in the Boxers, full teenage mode,
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 12: probably just watching some Saved by the Bell Dopey show
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 12: or whatever. And I hear the door bell ring, and
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 12: so I stand up. I go and open the door,
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  Speaker 12: and it's like forty ward members not knowing my family
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  Speaker 12: wasn't home, and I open the door and they start singing.
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  Speaker 12: I just shut it and then I go back on
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  Speaker 12: the couch show. The phone rings. About an hour later.
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  Speaker 12: It's my dad and he said, Spencer, please tell me,
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 12: just please tell me that you didn't slam the door
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 12: on our ward manors who were there to see Christmas carols.
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  Speaker 12: I'm like, Dad, I opened the door, and if I
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  Speaker 12: I'm in my boxers. Okay, I'm not gonna stand there
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  Speaker 12: and let them. Because here's the other thing. It's never
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 12: a song. You launch it and we wish you were
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 12: Merry Christmas, then it's like jingle bells. Then it's like
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 12: whatever the hell else. So if I stand there with
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 12: the door open, I'm probably obligated for another ten minutes
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  Speaker 12: to stand there in my boxers.
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  Speaker 9: And listen to the charters.
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  Speaker 3: Sick.
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  Speaker 9: I'm like, Dad, I'm sorry, I can.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, had you done that, had you stood
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 4: there and listen, then the call still would have come.
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  Speaker 3: Why were you wearing your boxers standing in front of
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 3: the ward?
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  Speaker 9: Correct?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a lose loose. Thank you for having my
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 12: back so in that moment. But my poor father's like,
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 12: please tell me you didn't do this. I'm like, yeah,
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 12: I did, so I was the bad name that instant.
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 4: I love our Texters. By the way, this is fantastic.
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 4: Uh from Curtis. Hey, I love your grievance, your rightfully
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 4: to be anger by a lame neighbor. Also, your neighbor
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 4: doesn't know what he's talking about. Utah passed a bill
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 4: to protect just this. Oh, it protects a kid's right
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  Speaker 4: to block a sidewalk temporarily to do so the Lemonade
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  Speaker 4: law State Bill eighty.
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  Speaker 9: One looks like you have a second visit coming to
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 9: that guy's house.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna print this out, love it, I'm gonna laminate it,
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 4: and I'm gonna put it on his front door.
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 9: I like it.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna put it over the camera on
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  Speaker 3: his ring.
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 9: Cam, and then put him in a rear naked reverse
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 9: choke hold.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna allegedly tell him what how I really feel.
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  Speaker 12: Do you think he has any idea that you are
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 12: trained to murder people with your bare hands?
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  Speaker 3: I guarantee he doesn't.
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 12: Okay, Well, it's a lesson. As we've talked about. That's
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 12: why you never get out of the car road rage.
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 12: Don't know if homeboy's packing heat or you know, you
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 12: don't know if you're gonna pick a fight with a
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 12: trained fight or just we're all just trying to get
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 12: home people.
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 4: I also grievance against the timing of things in the world,
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 4: because whenever something happens, something like this happens to anybody
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 4: I care about. Yeah, whenever there's some kind of encounter
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 4: I am never ever, ever there in my entire life.
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 4: My best friend who doesn't go to clubs, that three
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 4: times he's been to a club and people have tried
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 4: to fight him.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not with him. It's like, how how does this
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 3: only happen when I'm not around?
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 12: That's probably a good thing at the end of the day,
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 12: because you are one swing away from maybe spending some
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 12: time in the federal penitentiary, and you're a father.
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 9: We need to keep you out of jail.
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's it. I mean, that's that's the goal.
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 3: Coolerheads always should prevail. Yeah.
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 4: Indeed, so when you see a lemonade stand, pull over,
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 4: not to yell at the mothers and the children, pull
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 4: over to venmo them, or if you still carry cash,
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 4: contribute to their cause.
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  Speaker 12: It's a brilliant business model because who wouldn't do that?
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 12: And I rarely drink the lemonade because I don't know
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 12: if there's snotty little hands are in it, but here
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 12: t they are, here's five bucks boom.
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 4: The sugar ratio on those bad boys is always wrong.
• 2:39:09
  Speaker 4: There's always like the sediment in the bottom country time
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 4: lemonade is just loaded up.
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  Speaker 12: Yep, But it's a brilliant business model. You just throw,
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 12: you know, four cute little eight year olds out there
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 12: who isn't gonna stop. I guess apparently a bad neighbor
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 12: will beerate, but that's that's silly.
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  Speaker 4: Be good neighbors. Indeed, be good neighbors. And listen to
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 4: the drive Spence Checket Well said, we'll be with you
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  Speaker 4: on Monday. It's The Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN seven hundred
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