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130. Cute gay love! (PRIDE: Dekoboko Sugar Days/Bittersweet Days) · The Book-Watchers

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Speaker 1: You on it.
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Speaker 2: That's yeah, kay, Gary, that's my pot pie.
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Speaker 1: You know, I had to win on time before I
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Speaker 1: get fucked. My favorite, my favorite, my favorite. I quote
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Speaker 1: that all the time.
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Speaker 2: Yah.
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Speaker 3: Anyway, Hi, welcome to book Watchers, where the the autists.
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Speaker 3: That's all we're doing. Hi, I'm Jacob, You're wonderful, lovely.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what to call myself host he then,
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Speaker 3: I just work here. I don't know, man, I just
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Speaker 3: work here and I don't get paid for it.
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Speaker 1: Hi, I am a level three fagot, Devin, I'm thinking,
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Speaker 1: I'm pondering.
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Speaker 3: Sure that's the case, am I Like what level am I.
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Speaker 1: You're You're just a full I don't know, I don't,
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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know the scale. I just set
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Speaker 1: a level three faggot just because. But honestly, i'd be
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Speaker 1: a higher level than you. And I'm even not bisexual, so.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, your birthday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you wouldn't even be on my level.
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Speaker 3: Okay, because like big titties as well, as like big booties.
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Speaker 1: Titties now man titties or girl titties. Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: ties just just titties.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just want to level three two gated function. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: to gata function. Hey, fine, welcome back to book launchers. Devin,
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Speaker 3: do the little bit of a housekeeping which you forgot.
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Speaker 1: What's do? I'm talking about the do.
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Speaker 3: But you're doing anyway, aren't you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't need to tell me to do it.
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Speaker 1: You're not my dad anyway.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. I stuck I stuck around.
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Speaker 1: That's rude. That's that's that's rude. That's that's real rude. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: if you look at the description below, you'll see a
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Speaker 1: other podcast and the patronianscription below too. So we'll go
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Speaker 1: to Pride Month. Uh episode Hey what Pride Month? Today
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Speaker 1: we're talking about more yawie. But this is not as
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Speaker 1: smutty as last week or.
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Speaker 3: It's it is considered yawie, but honestly, it's just like romance.
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Speaker 3: It's from it's romance. It's more romance than.
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Speaker 1: Smut's romance with a sprinkle of romantic smut. Yeah, but classy.
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Speaker 3: It's it's almost it's like a it's a Japanese version
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Speaker 3: of Hallmark except there's except yes, there's smut. So anyway, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: so the mangare we're actually we're reviewing another manga this
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Speaker 3: this week. This week we're reviewing a manga called uh
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Speaker 3: Dkuboco Sugar Days, and we're also reviewing it's sequel, Bittersweet Days.
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Speaker 3: So it's a cute little b l is you know,
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Speaker 3: it's really cute. I read it and like I didn't
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Speaker 3: like honestly, like I don't really care about the smut
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Speaker 3: and the one because it doesn't this the story on
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Speaker 3: it is a lot better than the smut.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not much of a it's not much of
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Speaker 1: like I said, it's it's like smut is the afterthought,
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Speaker 1: which is good because this story is sweet.
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Speaker 3: Very sweet. It's about two it's it it falls too ah.
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Speaker 3: It falls two boys who they grew up together. They've
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Speaker 3: had a close friendship together for a long time since
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Speaker 3: they were like I think they were like nine or
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Speaker 3: something when they first met, or probably younger. Yeah, and
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Speaker 3: follows the main one of the main characters that follows
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Speaker 3: you giro, excuse me if I butchered the pronunciation of
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Speaker 3: that name. Uh so, Ugrio is a he was the
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Speaker 3: definitely more of He's more masculine, definitely more. He's a
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Speaker 3: jock type. He's in his school's judo club. He's actual
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Speaker 3: he's actually short, yeah too. Like when they first met,
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Speaker 3: the two were about the same hype. But as they
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Speaker 3: got older and more mature, Yugrio didn't grow much more,
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Speaker 3: didn't grow to be that tall. But his best friend Rui,
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Speaker 3: who is all who is his love interest, grows to
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Speaker 3: be like over six feet tall.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he gets to be tall.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a tall boy. And the two so the
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Speaker 3: story starts off where like where when the two meet
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Speaker 3: there are still young children and Ruey he had fallen
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Speaker 3: into a gutter and couldn't get out. He was too small,
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Speaker 3: the gutter was too deep and he was too small
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Speaker 3: to like climb out on his own. But yug Yugiro
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Speaker 3: finds him and manages to pull him out. And the
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Speaker 3: thing is is that when Yugio first met Ruey, he
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Speaker 3: thought Rui was a girl because Rui was dressing, like
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Speaker 3: the way he dressed was kind of feminished, like kind
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Speaker 3: of feminine. Ruy is is of like mixed descent because
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Speaker 3: he comes from like French French Japanese family, so he
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Speaker 3: definitely has more takes off. It takes more from his
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Speaker 3: French French side. He has like lighter, paler features in
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Speaker 3: the colored in like the in the colored format of
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Speaker 3: the manga. I think his hair is like pink or something,
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Speaker 3: or like a very light brown.
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Speaker 1: Kind of like a pink. His hair color, yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: like a freaking I wouldn't say, I mean it looks pink,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, it kind of looks like a like a red,
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Speaker 1: like a like a reresh brown auburn.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but very pale auburn color.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And then of course uh eu Ugo is more like
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Speaker 3: just like average look, which is dark hair, dark spiky hair,
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Speaker 3: and more Japanese features. And so when he first meets
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Speaker 3: when Yujito first meets Ruey, he thinks Ruey is a
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Speaker 3: girl because Rui is wearing like he's wearing his school
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Speaker 3: uniform at the time, but he's also wearing like a
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Speaker 3: little bobby pin, like a little hair clip with a
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Speaker 3: flower on it. So first instance, his first thought is
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Speaker 3: whoa this is. This is a cute little this is
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Speaker 3: a cute girl. But then like when they part ways,
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Speaker 3: they in like, he returns Rui to his parents. That's
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Speaker 3: when he learns that, oh he's a he's a boy,
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Speaker 3: and he gets really disappointed because he's like, oh, I
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Speaker 3: thought man like. He was really disappointed because he thought
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Speaker 3: he was a girl like. And he actually loved the
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Speaker 3: first sight, instantly felt fell for this little for this kid.
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Speaker 3: But it's like, oh he's a boy. So he's confused
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Speaker 3: and upset, but still the two end up becoming really
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Speaker 3: good friends. And as I get older, Ruey really grows
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Speaker 3: into himself. Yeah, like really grows into himself. And then
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Speaker 3: you got Ugito, who's about one hundred and sixty five
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Speaker 3: centimeters and uh, Ruey ends up being one hundred and
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Speaker 3: eighty six centimeters and please don't ask me how many
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Speaker 3: how how tall that is? And feet because I'm I'm American.
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Speaker 3: We use feet. We we don't go by centimeters.
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Speaker 2: I mean we use this.
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Speaker 1: We do have centimeters, but okay, give me, give me,
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Speaker 1: give me the centmeters.
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Speaker 3: So Youugito is one hundred and sixty five.
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Speaker 1: Two feet. Let's see, that would be about five foot four.
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Speaker 3: Oh he's a shortie.
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Speaker 1: He's a shorty.
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Speaker 3: He's a short king. Ruy is like six feet tall.
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Speaker 1: And what's Ruby's cinemes eight six, six foot one, six one. Oh,
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Speaker 1: he's my height, yeah six one yeah, king with a
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Speaker 1: six foot one haul king Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So Sugar Days is more so the overall story of
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Speaker 3: Sugar Days is the two of them, like they're they're
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Speaker 3: growing into themselves, They're they're both trying to find themselves.
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Speaker 3: Ruey is definitely more like open about his personality and like,
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Speaker 3: while they don't really like openly discuss sexuality, they it's
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Speaker 3: very clear that Ruy is definitely more like he knows
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Speaker 3: what he wants, he knows like his preferences, and he
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Speaker 3: it's very clear that he has feelings for his best
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Speaker 3: friend Rio. But the thing is, you gro doesn't really
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Speaker 3: He's He's the one that's that has to really discover himself.
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Speaker 3: He's the one that's trying to discover himself, see like
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Speaker 3: figure out like, well, what does he want? What is
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Speaker 3: he like? What are his preferences? Right? Yeah, and he
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Speaker 3: he knows that he cares about his his friend Ruie,
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Speaker 3: but he it's not really clicking for him that it's
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Speaker 3: okay for them to be together, or rather it's not
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Speaker 3: really like clicking for him that like it's possible for
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Speaker 3: the two of them to be together, right, and most
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Speaker 3: of like a good chunk of the story is like
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Speaker 3: is Yujito overcoming some of his own Like I don't
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Speaker 3: want to say it's internalized homophobia because I don't really
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Speaker 3: get the vibe that there's homophobia, but it's more just
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Speaker 3: like like coming to terms with his feelings for Rui
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Speaker 3: and also accepting that, yes, that this is what he wants,
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Speaker 3: and also learning to overcome so like the way society
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Speaker 3: will see them because they can't really be out with
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Speaker 3: each other. Because think about I think in Japanese culture
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Speaker 3: is while homosexuality for the most part is accepted and
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Speaker 3: it is legal there culturally and societally speaking, it's still
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Speaker 3: in some ways taboo, right you know, I mean same
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Speaker 3: as the same can be said here in America. Like
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Speaker 3: you know, Devin and I were both openly gay men,
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Speaker 3: and while we live in an area that for the
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Speaker 3: most part is accepting, we're still have a society whether
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Speaker 3: it's like culturally speaking, being gay is still considered taboo
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Speaker 3: to an extent, both like religiously and then also like
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Speaker 3: just culturally because like you know, you see a lot
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Speaker 3: of stuff about like you know, straight people like gay
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Speaker 3: baiting each other and like you know, using like they
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Speaker 3: use like terms like as like like homosexual terms as insult,
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Speaker 3: Like they'll call each other faggot, gay or like joke
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Speaker 3: about like man, that was really gay my guy, like
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Speaker 3: as if, like they talk about it still, it still
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Speaker 3: talks about in a negative light. And you know, so
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Speaker 3: like while we're comfortable with our with us being out,
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Speaker 3: it's a lot it's definitely still a lot harder to
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Speaker 3: be out in Japan, right at least, I don't know,
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Speaker 3: maybe different may be wrong, but like at least for
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Speaker 3: the overall vibe of like the content that I've been
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Speaker 3: exposed to, because like aside from Bittersweet Day, from from
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Speaker 3: Sugar Days and Bittersweet Days, Uh, Like I've watched other
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Speaker 3: like Asian dramas, like K dramas all that.
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Speaker 1: Don't get me start with soulmate.
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Speaker 3: H We just the two of us just started watching
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Speaker 3: this this Japanese drama called I think on episode four
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Speaker 3: or four or five, and let me say, let me
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Speaker 3: tell you something now, this this, this is this show
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Speaker 3: I like when I first saw when I first like
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Speaker 3: saw it on Netflix, I thought, this is kind of
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Speaker 3: giving like heated rivalry vives because the main character is
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Speaker 3: a hockey player, a Japanese hockey player, and his love
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Speaker 3: interest is a Korean boxer. I was like, oh, okay,
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Speaker 3: and then I watched the first episode. I was like, okay,
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Speaker 3: well I was wrong. I mean definitely gay, but I
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Speaker 3: was wrong about the vibes because it emotionally gutted me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah at the first episode.
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Speaker 3: Like wow, yeah, that's still like I get the I
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Speaker 3: get the like it definitely like showcases how like Japanese
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Speaker 3: culture can be like surrounding gay people because in some
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Speaker 3: cases it's it's acceptable, but then like still if it
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Speaker 3: has the same connotations as it does here in America,
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Speaker 3: like if you're if you're not out and then you
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Speaker 3: get outed to the wrong people, it could really ruin
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Speaker 3: your life. Yeah, so and that we see that happen,
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Speaker 3: so it's so yeah, it was that that was emotionally
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Speaker 3: gutting and then this and in this series, you know,
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Speaker 3: Ruey and Yujio both have to deal with the same thing.
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Speaker 3: They both they keep they keep that part of themselves
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Speaker 3: pretty tight knit. Ujugo is the one who has to
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Speaker 3: really come like come to accept it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
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Speaker 3: He also has. He also kind of deals with like
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Speaker 3: a bit of like insecurity with his height because he's
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Speaker 3: like the two of them are almost done with high
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Speaker 3: school right there. They're already almost through high school. And
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Speaker 3: Ujito is only five foot four or one hundred and
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Speaker 3: sixty five centimeters and uh, and then you have Ruey
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Speaker 3: over here, who is this like who is this Aryan?
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Speaker 3: Who's like this aryan giant?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Right, but like that doesn't really bother. That doesn't really
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Speaker 3: bother Ruey. But like Ugito has seen multiple times throughout
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Speaker 3: the book, like throughout the book, drinking milk because ideas
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Speaker 3: like milk like helps you grow. And I think that's right.
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Speaker 3: I think there's like it's supposed to. But I don't know,
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Speaker 3: like I never really bought into that. I mean, if
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Speaker 3: that were true, because I used to drink a lot
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Speaker 3: of milk as a kid, And if that were true,
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Speaker 3: I would be like as tall or taller than my dad.
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Speaker 3: But my dad is still taller than me.
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Speaker 1: That was true, I would be taller. Yeah, I'm five
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Speaker 1: six five five, y'all. I'm tiny. I'm little. I wasn't
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Speaker 1: blessed with the genetics of.
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Speaker 3: Tall mm hmmm. Said he was blessed with it. Uh,
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Speaker 3: he was blessed to be an Irish gerbil.
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Speaker 1: Literally stubby, the whole works. Oh God, stop drinking your
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Speaker 1: cor God damn it. Wow, you're like he said it.
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Speaker 1: I didn't.
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Speaker 3: I didn't say I didn't say it. I didn't say
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Speaker 3: it ever.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, this story's cute. Those two slowly fall in
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Speaker 1: love and accept each other for who they are.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, and the thing is is that Ujito doesn't
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Speaker 3: realize that Ruy does have feelings for him and ye
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Speaker 3: Ugito has a long seated deep crush for Ruie, but
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Speaker 3: he doesn't know if Rui feels the same, and he
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Speaker 3: doesn't want to like come out and like say it
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Speaker 3: and risk their relationship. And also Ruy so Yujito is
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Speaker 3: completely oblivious because one thing, you know, love Ruey, but
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Speaker 3: one hundred percent faggot person may not openly Ruy may
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Speaker 3: not openly declare that he is gay or anything like that,
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Speaker 3: but it is one hundred percent obvious the way he talks,
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Speaker 3: the way and the fact that it's like, listen, let's
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Speaker 3: disregard the fact that he still wears that little hair clip.
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Speaker 3: He's the way he talks, the way he acts. One
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Speaker 3: hundred percent homosexual.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's one of those homosexuals, mean the high
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Speaker 1: school where everyone knew they were but they didn't know
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Speaker 1: they were yet or they didn't want to admit it yet.
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Speaker 1: Love that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think in Rui's cases, like he doesn't have
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Speaker 3: to admit it because it's just who he is, Like,
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Speaker 3: oh well, yeah, like he doesn't need a label because
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Speaker 3: that's just what he is. That's who he is. And
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Speaker 3: uh Ujito is the one who's just like more oblivious
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Speaker 3: really because even though like clearly sees how Ruey is,
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Speaker 3: he doesn't think Ruey feels the same way or even
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Speaker 3: likes guys that way. He. I think like in Eugito's
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Speaker 3: mind it was just more like, oh, well, he just
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Speaker 3: likes curly things.
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Speaker 1: Like, bro, my guyot your hand. When I say this,
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Speaker 1: he's a faggot and so are you.
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Speaker 3: M So the thing is is that because of Ugito's
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Speaker 3: like like his insecurities and wanting to like admit to
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Speaker 3: Ruey and how he feels, uh like, they do end
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Speaker 3: up becoming distant with each other, Like about like halfway
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Speaker 3: through the story, they become distant. Ruey thinks that Ugito
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Speaker 3: doesn't feel the same way for him, and he starts
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Speaker 3: like not really like going out with another guy, but
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Speaker 3: like he starts spending time with this other guy who's
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Speaker 3: also clearly who's also clearly gay, right, because he like,
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Speaker 3: he definitely like he's more open and honest about the
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Speaker 3: fact that he really likes Rui, and he even like
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Speaker 3: admonishes Eugito multiple times for not like not appreciating Rui's affection,
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Speaker 3: and like he's clearly trying to sweep rue right out
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Speaker 3: from under Ujito, but Jugito is so completely oblivious. So
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Speaker 3: they they just end up getting distanced from each other,
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Speaker 3: like distance each other, Like they end up getting distanced
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Speaker 3: from each other, and eventually Ugito does come to terms
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Speaker 3: with the sexuality, realizes that this Rui is the person
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Speaker 3: he wants, right, that's and it's okay, And he does
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Speaker 3: admit to uh Rui his affections and like comes pretty
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Speaker 3: much comes out to him mins the whole shebang, and
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Speaker 3: you know, that's when they finally get together. Like it
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Speaker 3: kind of comes out while they were they were supposed
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Speaker 3: to be like on like a field trip of some
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Speaker 3: kind or like they they skipped school, Yeah, and they
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Speaker 3: were they went out and about and they end up
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Speaker 3: had a had a love hotel. Oh yeah, yeah, they
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Speaker 3: end up at a love hotel and the thing is ugital.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't initially intending to like do anything like with
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Speaker 3: with Ruey, but it was everything like that happens in
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Speaker 3: this hotel. It kind of ends up unintentionally because it's
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Speaker 3: a love hotel like in Japan. Japan has hotels specifically
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Speaker 3: for couples. Yea, So like they make they make it
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Speaker 3: to where like the experience is like you know, oh,
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Speaker 3: we're supposed to be romantic. Also spice things up. There's like, fuck,
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Speaker 3: there's condoms everywhere, there's lube in the there's lube in
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Speaker 3: the dressers, and even the bathroom is designed to like
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Speaker 3: kind of make this experience more erotic because at one point,
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Speaker 3: like usual, it takes a shower, takes a shower, comes out,
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Speaker 3: He's like all right, showers open, and Ruey goes in
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Speaker 3: and Ruis in the shower usually finds a remote. He's like, oh,
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Speaker 3: let's see what's on the TV, points it at the wall,
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Speaker 3: clicks a button and the whole wall goes transparent. He
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Speaker 3: can see Ruey like yeah, like well like shot full
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Speaker 3: as full ass completely naked in the middle of in
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Speaker 3: the middle of cleaning himself and like usually it's just
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Speaker 3: over here like like so eventually like they do, like
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Speaker 3: it does lead to smut. It does lead to like
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Speaker 3: the two of them hooking up. And from here that's
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Speaker 3: like it's after this that the two of them like
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Speaker 3: are more like completely like like dive headfirst into the relationship.
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Speaker 3: They finally like the they cross that they cross that barrier, right,
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Speaker 3: and now they can't get enough of each other and
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Speaker 3: they're now like pretty much the rest of the book
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Speaker 3: is just them like like just kind of like it's
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Speaker 3: their live It's the blissful beginning of a relationship, right
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Speaker 3: honeymoon phase. They they really they really do care about
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Speaker 3: each other and they're finding every moment to have sex
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Speaker 3: with each other. It's like.
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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, and you know it's sweet.
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Speaker 3: Like like the end does end on a more snutty,
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Speaker 3: more smutty note, but like it's a very sweet story
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Speaker 3: and I enjoyed it. I was just like, oh, like
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Speaker 3: skip past the smut, like give me more of this
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Speaker 3: savvy bullshit. I liked it. Like that's what I liked
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Speaker 3: about the story. It was just how like these two
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Speaker 3: like it was there was a lot of like personality growth. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and there's a lot of growth discovering, like discovering themselves,
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Speaker 3: figuring out who they want, who they want to be,
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Speaker 3: who they want to be with all right, and finally
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Speaker 3: accepting that they that what they want is to be together.
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Speaker 3: And then they get together and like, oh, it's like ooh,
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Speaker 3: it's so happy and sweet. So it's a very I'm sorry,
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Speaker 3: I'm kind of dragging it out because it's pretty short.
22:06
Speaker 3: It's just like it's just like a little mom it's
22:09
Speaker 3: a little manga and uh. The Kuboko Sugar Days also
22:14
Speaker 3: has a sequel called Bittersweet Days. So Bittersweet Days takes
22:19
Speaker 3: place like maybe about a year or so after the
22:21
Speaker 3: events of Sugar Days. As the title excuse me, As
22:25
Speaker 3: the title suggests, it's like very bittersweet because the thing
22:29
Speaker 3: is is that the two of them are reaching the
22:31
Speaker 3: end of high school and they need to figure out
22:34
Speaker 3: what they want to do with their lives. Ruey wants
22:38
Speaker 3: to become a designer, fashion designer, while Ujital wants to
22:44
Speaker 3: become an architect like his father. And the thing is,
22:49
Speaker 3: they like, the thing is Yougito assumed that the two
22:52
Speaker 3: of them, would get would possibly like go to the
22:56
Speaker 3: same college together, or go to a college in the
22:58
Speaker 3: same area, and maybe he like rents an apartment together,
23:02
Speaker 3: like and take that take that first leap and actually
23:06
Speaker 3: like move in together right away, you know. Like Jujito
23:10
Speaker 3: was the one who had like more of an idea
23:11
Speaker 3: of like where it's like what direction they were going
23:15
Speaker 3: to go.
23:15
Speaker 2: But the thing is like so just like that.
23:17
Speaker 3: In the last book, it was more focused on Jujito
23:20
Speaker 3: coming to term with this his term, the term coming
23:22
Speaker 3: to terms with his sexuality and what he wants with Ruey.
23:26
Speaker 3: Now we're switching over to Rui because Rui is the
23:30
Speaker 3: one who has to who is trying to make a
23:33
Speaker 3: decision because Ruey knows what he wants and or rather
23:37
Speaker 3: he has an idea of what he wants, but he's
23:40
Speaker 3: not sure how to approach it or if he even
23:43
Speaker 3: wants to do it, because if he chooses to go
23:47
Speaker 3: the route he wants to go, it may end up him,
23:52
Speaker 3: may result in the in both him and Yujito like
23:58
Speaker 3: temporarily splitting up, Like they're not permanently splitting up, but
24:03
Speaker 3: they may end up not being together throughout college. And
24:06
Speaker 3: the reason for that is because while Eugito wants to
24:09
Speaker 3: go to a school, an architects school, and Tokyo Ruey
24:15
Speaker 3: wants to go to France to study, to go to
24:19
Speaker 3: a designer school in like somewhere in France, and he
24:24
Speaker 3: was going to go live with his grandmother because his
24:25
Speaker 3: grandmother is from France and she had offered him a place.
24:31
Speaker 3: She had offered him an opportunity to come live with
24:34
Speaker 3: her while he studies design and it would be a
24:37
Speaker 3: great opportunity because she herself is a fashion designer. So
24:40
Speaker 3: he'd studied directly more directly under her. He would learn
24:43
Speaker 3: a lot from her. He would go to the school there.
24:45
Speaker 3: So at this point they would be the two of
24:47
Speaker 3: them would be on the opposite ends of the earth,
24:50
Speaker 3: like on the other side of the world from each other.
24:53
Speaker 3: And eventually Rui does tell Yujito what he like, what
24:59
Speaker 3: he he wants, and you jital Is is understandably upset
25:06
Speaker 3: because he doesn't want to be apart from from Rui,
25:10
Speaker 3: because he is understandably afraid that what if they just
25:13
Speaker 3: grow apart, like they're gonna be spending like about four
25:16
Speaker 3: years away from each other, and upwards of four years
25:20
Speaker 3: away from each other and there it's not gonna be like, oh, well,
25:22
Speaker 3: he's just on the other He's like he he one
25:25
Speaker 3: of them is in Tokyo and the other one is
25:27
Speaker 3: in Kyushoo, and like, okay, well we can just take
25:31
Speaker 3: a train and see each other every now and then. Right, No,
25:34
Speaker 3: Like they're literally on the opposite end of the opposite
25:37
Speaker 3: side of the world from each other, So what are
25:42
Speaker 3: you gonna do? So the so Ujito is when they
25:47
Speaker 3: finally come, when Rui finally like tells Ujito what he wants,
25:53
Speaker 3: Ujito is understandably upset, so like this causes another bit
25:58
Speaker 3: of like this causes some tension between them, and they
26:01
Speaker 3: do end up like uh, Yugito ends up distancing himself
26:06
Speaker 3: from Ruie because he's upset. He just needs some time
26:08
Speaker 3: to like process it. And unfortunately, like Ujito kind of
26:12
Speaker 3: like let get let it, he let it get to
26:14
Speaker 3: him a little too much because literally the last day
26:18
Speaker 3: that uh that Rui was supposed to be in uh
26:21
Speaker 3: in Japan. Uh, he like he's about to fly out
26:24
Speaker 3: to France. That's when Yugital like finally like snaps out
26:29
Speaker 3: of it and goes to him. Like Rui is already
26:32
Speaker 3: like at the he's already at the airport. He's literally
26:36
Speaker 3: about to fly out, and that's when Yujito shows up
26:40
Speaker 3: and is like, I'm sorry. I like I don't like this.
26:43
Speaker 3: I don't want you to leave. I don't want us
26:46
Speaker 3: to be apart from each other. And I'm really scared.
26:49
Speaker 3: Like he's like really like just kind of like kind
26:52
Speaker 3: of completely like word vomits everything that like he feels
26:56
Speaker 3: and and Ruey understands. But like Ugito like finally like
27:02
Speaker 3: like he admits, like I understand, like why you want
27:04
Speaker 3: to go, like this is like your career, your future,
27:07
Speaker 3: and like, you know, apologize for he like apologizes for
27:13
Speaker 3: the you know both the actra scene. I feel like
27:16
Speaker 3: I'm not explaining it right. Let's see. Like at one point,
27:23
Speaker 3: like while like you while like after Rui tells like sorry,
27:28
Speaker 3: edit out that last part, Devin so while so after
27:32
Speaker 3: Rui tells Ugito, uh like what he intends to do,
27:39
Speaker 3: Ugito like kind of overshares tells him more about like, well,
27:44
Speaker 3: like I thought we'd move in together, Like like I
27:46
Speaker 3: thought maybe like we go to school in the same
27:48
Speaker 3: city together, or maybe go to the same school or
27:50
Speaker 3: go to the school in the same city and maybe
27:52
Speaker 3: even move in together. And he realizes after like he
27:55
Speaker 3: starts like when he when he said this, he was
27:57
Speaker 3: panicking and he realized that he may have liked overdid
28:00
Speaker 3: it by suggest like as a way to like kind
28:02
Speaker 3: of lure read you in like kind of like tempt
28:06
Speaker 3: him to just like, let's just move in together, right,
28:09
Speaker 3: kind of attempt him to be like, let's stay together
28:13
Speaker 3: and not you know, let's not do the whole French thing.
28:19
Speaker 3: But eventually, like he apologizes and Rui does, Ruy does
28:27
Speaker 3: reaffirm and tells him that without doubt he's going to
28:32
Speaker 3: France for school. And it does cause some more tension
28:40
Speaker 3: between the two of them, and eventually, like let me
28:47
Speaker 3: see here, eventually they do work things out together and
28:55
Speaker 3: they make a promise for the two of them to
28:58
Speaker 3: always like talk, to always make sure that they make
29:03
Speaker 3: sure they always talk. They stay in communication, all right.
29:06
Speaker 3: They spend one last christ They spend one last Christmas together.
29:11
Speaker 3: They do end up having like they spend one last
29:13
Speaker 3: Christmas together. But the thing is is that Ujito's insecure,
29:17
Speaker 3: like you, Juito's fears and his frustrations do come out,
29:20
Speaker 3: and he ends up saying some things that does upset
29:24
Speaker 3: and hurt Ruie's and hurt Rui, but Ruey reaffirms that
29:27
Speaker 3: even if we're apart for four years, like you're the
29:30
Speaker 3: only person I want to be with, all right, four
29:34
Speaker 3: years is like it's gonna be tough, but it's not
29:37
Speaker 3: the end of the world. But Jujito still feels like
29:44
Speaker 3: he still feels afraid. He ends up walking He ends
29:47
Speaker 3: up actually like walking away in anger and ends up
29:53
Speaker 3: distancing himself from Rui for some time, for a short
29:55
Speaker 3: period of time. And I'm sorry, I'm trying to just
29:59
Speaker 3: part to them, look for like they're this causes that
30:04
Speaker 3: little their little fight and well not a little fight.
30:07
Speaker 3: Their fight together ends up causing like like they have
30:10
Speaker 3: a big fight. They have a fight. It's more of
30:13
Speaker 3: like Ujuito venting his frustration than his feelings about Ruy
30:18
Speaker 3: going to France for four years. Ruey tells him, without
30:21
Speaker 3: a doubt, that doesn't matter if our parents try to
30:23
Speaker 3: introduce us to new people, like you're the only one
30:26
Speaker 3: I ever want to be with, but still for you,
30:30
Speaker 3: you know, it's not enough. And he ends up walking
30:32
Speaker 3: away in anger and like and he ends up staying
30:36
Speaker 3: like he keeps his distance from Ruie for pretty much
30:39
Speaker 3: the rest of the school year. Uh, he like ends
30:42
Speaker 3: up like kind of burning bridges with some people, and
30:47
Speaker 3: uh the time for the time for Rui to leave,
30:52
Speaker 3: Like they're uh, you know, the school's already over and
30:56
Speaker 3: now it's time for Ruie to start heading to has
30:59
Speaker 3: to make the the big transition from Japan's to France.
31:03
Speaker 3: And uh, one of one of Ugital's and Rui's mutual friends,
31:09
Speaker 3: they like they already knew, like they some of their
31:11
Speaker 3: friends are kind of like in the know of the
31:13
Speaker 3: or their relationship together. And one of them confronts Jugito
31:20
Speaker 3: and tells them and basically like gives them a good
31:23
Speaker 3: gives them a good like talking to tells them like
31:27
Speaker 3: pretty much telling him that like that you can't let this,
31:30
Speaker 3: You can't just let this affect your like your relationship,
31:34
Speaker 3: affect your what you have between the two of you,
31:37
Speaker 3: like what's going on between the two of you. Yeah,
31:39
Speaker 3: it's a tough decision, but if you really care about him,
31:42
Speaker 3: then you need to support him, and you can't just
31:44
Speaker 3: let him leave without, you know, without apologizing, without reaffirming
31:50
Speaker 3: that you do care about each other all that, and
31:53
Speaker 3: Uguital understandably like usuital is understandably, like, well, I kind
31:59
Speaker 3: of screwed everything up, and it's not like I can
32:04
Speaker 3: just show up and apologize right now. And his friend
32:07
Speaker 3: is like, yes you can and grabs him. They the
32:11
Speaker 3: two of them get on gets on his motorcycle and
32:14
Speaker 3: they and they floor to the airport. Ruey's already there
32:18
Speaker 3: and he's a little sad and disappointed that Jujito didn't
32:20
Speaker 3: show up say goodbye. But right at the last minute
32:23
Speaker 3: before the flight they're supposed to show up on the
32:27
Speaker 3: flight board the flight, Ugito shows up and apologizes. Uh so,
32:35
Speaker 3: he apologizes for it just the way he the way
32:38
Speaker 3: he acted, and for not being there for Ruie in
32:41
Speaker 3: the last over the last few weeks leading up to
32:44
Speaker 3: the to the move, and he should have and they
32:47
Speaker 3: really should have. He really should have just been more
32:49
Speaker 3: honest about him and reaffirmed that you're the only one
32:54
Speaker 3: I want. He also only wants to be with Rui.
32:56
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to be with anybody else. He was
32:58
Speaker 3: just scared. He was just scared because he didn't want
33:03
Speaker 3: them to grow apart or be apart for so long,
33:06
Speaker 3: and even says like he even tries to convince Ruy
33:08
Speaker 3: one last time to not go, but but Ruey stands firm,
33:13
Speaker 3: like he accepts his apology and reaffirms that yes, like
33:17
Speaker 3: you are the only person for me, Like we're not
33:20
Speaker 3: gonna like I'm not gonna date anybody else, not gonna
33:24
Speaker 3: like do anything to betray to betray you like that,
33:28
Speaker 3: but this that I am. But I'm doing this for me,
33:33
Speaker 3: Like this is for my future just as much as
33:35
Speaker 3: it like for Like I'm doing this as much for
33:37
Speaker 3: me as I'm doing for the both of us, Like
33:39
Speaker 3: this is a great opportunity, Like this is what I
33:41
Speaker 3: want to do with my future, and like this is
33:45
Speaker 3: his decision, right, So he So they have a they
33:50
Speaker 3: have a more gentler talk and and ultimately Ruey does
33:54
Speaker 3: end up ends up leaving. He goes, he moves to
33:58
Speaker 3: Prance and over the next so the next so like
34:02
Speaker 3: the first half of the book was them dealing with
34:03
Speaker 3: They're like their decision, the decisions, their decisions, and like
34:08
Speaker 3: to start deciding what they want to do with their future.
34:11
Speaker 3: Really wanting to go to France, uh Uguito wanting the
34:15
Speaker 3: two of them to move in together while they're in college,
34:17
Speaker 3: and he wants to study to be an architect. But now,
34:21
Speaker 3: like now that the decision has been made, the rest
34:24
Speaker 3: of the book is just more about the about just
34:26
Speaker 3: like more of like a time skip. So it kind
34:28
Speaker 3: of like goes like a bit of like a montage
34:30
Speaker 3: of like how the two of them spend the next
34:33
Speaker 3: four years apart from each other. They do visit each other,
34:37
Speaker 3: like uh Ugito actually visits uh Ujito actually visits Rui
34:42
Speaker 3: in France several times. And you know, they they spend
34:49
Speaker 3: time together every chance they get. They're always they're always speaking.
34:53
Speaker 3: Ugito actually grows. He actually has a small growth spurt,
34:58
Speaker 3: so he's no longer uh, he's no longer five foot four,
35:02
Speaker 3: but he's like about I think he just grows like
35:04
Speaker 3: maybe about two inches, like two or three inches, so
35:08
Speaker 3: he's not like the short king he was, but he's
35:11
Speaker 3: still compared to his his six foot one boyfriend. He's
35:15
Speaker 3: still the shorty. And so the two of them do
35:21
Speaker 3: their study, focus on their studies. Uh, And eventually Ruey
35:25
Speaker 3: finally does come home and they move in, and the
35:30
Speaker 3: story ends where the two of them are basically like
35:33
Speaker 3: they find they get together, they get together, they finalize uh,
35:37
Speaker 3: they start making their plans and decisions and like what
35:40
Speaker 3: they want to do. Jujuito shows shows shows Ruy some
35:45
Speaker 3: of the things he's learned from architect design, and even
35:48
Speaker 3: shows him some plans that he was making, like some
35:51
Speaker 3: like housing plans. Yeah, and uh, he actually is planning
35:57
Speaker 3: on building them a house together. Like they're still like
36:00
Speaker 3: still in school, still need to like finish school and
36:03
Speaker 3: like get a good job as get a good architect
36:06
Speaker 3: architect job and save up for the time being. But
36:10
Speaker 3: eventually he wants to be able to, uh, he wants
36:13
Speaker 3: to be able to build them a house together where
36:15
Speaker 3: they can live. And there's still like some slight fears
36:21
Speaker 3: that they have together for being an open couple, like
36:24
Speaker 3: and and openly to be openly dating as a same
36:28
Speaker 3: sex couple. But they said they're gonna work on it
36:31
Speaker 3: together and live happily ever after.
36:36
Speaker 1: We love a short top. We love a short top.
36:39
Speaker 2: Yeah.
36:40
Speaker 3: The overall yeah, that's also like the overall dynamic of
36:43
Speaker 3: this story is like tall bottom, short top. You know,
36:46
Speaker 3: like the tall bottom is more effeminate, more like in
36:51
Speaker 3: touch with their emotion and like the more obviously like
36:56
Speaker 3: gay one, right, and then you have the short top,
36:59
Speaker 3: who was the more masculine one. He was the jock
37:02
Speaker 3: he was in like a he was a he was
37:03
Speaker 3: in mixed marshal he was in like the judo club,
37:06
Speaker 3: and uh, he's over here, the more like the one
37:10
Speaker 3: with more like he's not really in touch with his emotions.
37:12
Speaker 3: He's more like that he has he's more prone to
37:15
Speaker 3: like bits of melancholy and also like kind of he
37:20
Speaker 3: kind of gives off like you you don't love the guy,
37:24
Speaker 3: but he kind of gives off douchey vibes from time
37:26
Speaker 3: to time a little bit, especially like just how he
37:28
Speaker 3: handles some things with Ruey. Yeah, but then but then
37:35
Speaker 3: you have Ruey, who's like the gentler one of the
37:37
Speaker 3: more one who's more in touch with his feelings, the
37:40
Speaker 3: one who like the one who's like who's who's already
37:45
Speaker 3: like accepted who he is as a person and didn't
37:49
Speaker 3: really need much like didn't have to go through much
37:51
Speaker 3: like soul searching or introspective introspection to figure out like
37:57
Speaker 3: what he wants, like like like who he is, like
38:00
Speaker 3: what his sexual identity is, I mean when it comes
38:02
Speaker 3: to his career, that's the part where he had to
38:05
Speaker 3: like he was definitely holding up, like he was definitely
38:07
Speaker 3: working on more. Like that was a big decision and
38:10
Speaker 3: you have to really give it. I have to really
38:12
Speaker 3: give it to Rui. He really stuck with his guns
38:14
Speaker 3: because you know, he knew what he wanted. He knew
38:16
Speaker 3: he wanted to take on this opportunity to go study
38:20
Speaker 3: under his grandmother for design and like eventually like work
38:24
Speaker 3: his way up to being a fashion designer. You know,
38:28
Speaker 3: So he stuck with his guns, and you know, it's
38:31
Speaker 3: it's really admirable because like especially because like if the
38:34
Speaker 3: two since the two of them they are, they definitely
38:36
Speaker 3: do have a very strong relationship with each other. I mean, yeah,
38:40
Speaker 3: they had their ups and downs, but ultimately they knew
38:44
Speaker 3: like they wanted they still want to be together, and
38:46
Speaker 3: they made it work. Because that's like, that's like the
38:48
Speaker 3: staple of a strong relationship is like you make it.
38:51
Speaker 3: You make it work all right, through thick and thin,
38:57
Speaker 3: through thick and thin. Yeah, you make it work. And
39:02
Speaker 3: you know you said you hold that you figure things out.
39:07
Speaker 3: Now I'm sorry, I'm not I'm not sure where I
39:09
Speaker 3: was going with that, but like, yeah, you figure things out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: So that was Dakuboco. It was a it is a
39:19
Speaker 3: two part series from Sugar Sugar Days to Betters Sweet Days. Yes,
39:24
Speaker 3: it does get pretty smuty, but the story was more Honestly,
39:28
Speaker 3: the story was more interesting than the smut.
39:30
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the story was more about two young gay
39:35
Speaker 1: boys fall in love, young gay men fall in love,
39:38
Speaker 1: and then the years of high school into college and
39:45
Speaker 1: surviving that cuban and relationship afloat Yeah, and now into adulthood.
39:51
Speaker 1: Love it love this be al maonga Yeah. Love it's so.
40:02
Speaker 2: It was.
40:04
Speaker 3: I enjoyed reading it, and I know de Haven enjoyed
40:08
Speaker 3: reading it, and it's like, I want to read more
40:12
Speaker 3: beel manga like this because I've read several other bl
40:16
Speaker 3: or several other more yawi type ye, and I gotta
40:21
Speaker 3: say I was kind of the ones that I've read
40:26
Speaker 3: so far besides Deakuboco was kind of disappointing to me.
40:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like, I like my bl or smut with
40:36
Speaker 1: like a story with the side of smut.
40:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I wanted to just if I want to
40:44
Speaker 3: just smut, I can easily find something online, but like
40:48
Speaker 3: in this case, like I want something more like more
40:52
Speaker 3: well written, fair and like I don't mind the smut,
40:58
Speaker 3: but like it definitely like in a story like this.
41:00
Speaker 3: I didn't really want too much smut and that, and
41:02
Speaker 3: that was a good thing because there wasn't too much smutt.
41:03
Speaker 3: There wasn't like there was smut here and there, but
41:06
Speaker 3: it was definitely more focused on the on the boys relationship, yeah,
41:09
Speaker 3: and how they developed as people and didn't really like
41:13
Speaker 3: force us to go through like all this like you know,
41:16
Speaker 3: like oh like oh no, Ruly and Ruly and Mugito
41:21
Speaker 3: are going through some or through some like relationship troubles smutsmuths, smut, smut. Yeah,
41:28
Speaker 3: they've been apart for almost two years smuts. Yeah, yeah right,
41:33
Speaker 3: It's just more like this. The smutt part is just
41:35
Speaker 3: more of like the like you know, the reward, like
41:38
Speaker 3: they went through all this like oh yay smut and
41:41
Speaker 3: then move on.
41:42
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah no, not like the smut I read with
41:48
Speaker 1: Goldie mhm.
41:50
Speaker 3: With Goldie, Goldie infant rear, you little degenerate.
41:57
Speaker 1: Uh So that is today's episode on Sugar Days and
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Speaker 1: Bittersweet Days. Catch next time as we're going to delve
42:05
Speaker 1: back into smut with me another work of Hodgies, So
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Speaker 1: join us then until then, Bye bye bye