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- 0:02Speaker 1: It's seven twenty eight to fifty five car CD talk station.
- 0:05Speaker 1: We always do this on Wednesdays. What is this talking
- 0:08Speaker 1: with Donovan and Neil from Americans for a Prosperity with
- 0:11Speaker 1: his state director for AFP Action in Ohio, hat On,
- 0:13Speaker 1: Welcome back, Donald and Neil's always pleasure having in the
- 0:15Speaker 1: fifty five care same morning show, my friend, best.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Way to start on Wednesday morning. I gotta say, well.
- 0:21Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that. That's very kind of you
- 0:22Speaker 1: and I'm glad you share my enthusiasm. We're talking about
- 0:25Speaker 1: these important issues in Ohio and getting people involved from
- 0:28Speaker 1: my listening audience. They can do that AFP action dot Com.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Just fill out the form and let Donovan and the
- 0:34Speaker 1: crew get in touch with you and put you to
- 0:35Speaker 1: work on some level in some way or another. One
- 0:38Speaker 1: small step campaigns. What I got on my notes page?
- 0:41Speaker 1: What's what's this all about? Donovan?
- 0:44Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, we're bringing a major tour to Ohio. Big
- 0:48Speaker 3: event June twenty second up in Columbus, and we're getting
- 0:53Speaker 3: we're just getting the word out and beginning to put
- 0:54Speaker 3: the speakers list together. But it will be an evening
- 0:56Speaker 3: a celebration of our great nation alongside of my goods
- 1:00Speaker 3: for prosperity, concerned Veterans for America, and the Libre Initiative.
- 1:04Speaker 2: And so I wanted to come on your show.
- 1:05Speaker 3: Make sure your listeners know about it and have the
- 1:08Speaker 3: opportunity to get tickets well while we still have them.
- 1:11Speaker 1: That's great. So this is Truly America two hundred and
- 1:14Speaker 1: fiftieth anniversary party.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Then, yeah, exactly, And you know it's very your listeners
- 1:21Speaker 3: who dial in every tune in every Wednesday.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Know, we do a lot here.
- 1:24Speaker 3: We do politics, we do policy, we do grassroots advocacy.
- 1:28Speaker 3: What this event, though, is going to be about is
- 1:30Speaker 3: celebrating the great Americans who have come before us, each
- 1:33Speaker 3: of them taking one small step that helped lead us
- 1:37Speaker 3: to this great point in time. That's two hundred and
- 1:39Speaker 3: fifty years of the greatest nation on earth. And so
- 1:42Speaker 3: you know, we'll be celebrating those folks like many of
- 1:45Speaker 3: your listeners right who do good in their community, who
- 1:48Speaker 3: make a difference, and recognize those folks from the main
- 1:52Speaker 3: stage at this event. So it's going to be more
- 1:55Speaker 3: about patriotism, about that American spirit, about that you know,
- 1:58Speaker 3: those ideals that make this country. He's so great as
- 2:01Speaker 3: much as anything else.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Yeah, it really worries me that that doesn't seem to
- 2:05Speaker 1: be a great sense of patriotism. Maybe it's just me
- 2:07Speaker 1: getting old, you know, back in my day, we used
- 2:10Speaker 1: to you know, probably. I just there's so much division
- 2:13Speaker 1: in this country, and I think it's we're being intentionally divided,
- 2:17Speaker 1: both from forces inside and out, and I think it's
- 2:20Speaker 1: all designed to just undermine the fabric of America. There
- 2:23Speaker 1: was always something that Americans collectively could rally around. Donovan.
- 2:28Speaker 1: It seems to me that anything we used to be
- 2:31Speaker 1: able to rally around has been undermined by some divisive
- 2:34Speaker 1: force regardless of which direction you look at, and nothing
- 2:38Speaker 1: unifies this anymore. I mean I used to sort of
- 2:41Speaker 1: reference the flag itself. I don't care what political stripe
- 2:45Speaker 1: you are. At least you could look at the flag
- 2:46Speaker 1: and say, hey, at least in America, I can speak
- 2:48Speaker 1: my mind. I've got freedoms and liberties that no other
- 2:51Speaker 1: country enjoys. In spite of the fact that I hate
- 2:53Speaker 1: that guy over there and he's my enemy, We're all
- 2:56Speaker 1: united under one collective thing we can call freedom. That
- 3:00Speaker 1: doesn't even seem to exist anymore. Donovan. Maybe I'm Peyton
- 3:03Speaker 1: with too broad of a brush. But do you get
- 3:05Speaker 1: that sense if you feel that way from time to
- 3:06Speaker 1: time or all the time, Donovan.
- 3:09Speaker 3: I think if you know you're someone you know and
- 3:11Speaker 3: I'm not saying you're this kind of person brand because
- 3:13Speaker 3: I don't think you are. But you know, if you're
- 3:14Speaker 3: the kind of person that just lives their life on
- 3:17Speaker 3: social media right or watches the six o'clock news, and
- 3:21Speaker 3: that is that is the lens through which our nation
- 3:24Speaker 3: is viewed. That certainly does seem to be the case.
- 3:26Speaker 3: But you know, we find it every day from knocking
- 3:30Speaker 3: doors and talking to you know, friends and neighbors about
- 3:33Speaker 3: pretty divisive topics like politics, or going to an event
- 3:37Speaker 3: tabling and encouraging people to sign a petition for school choice,
- 3:41Speaker 3: you know, to events like what I've heard my colleagues
- 3:43Speaker 3: and other states. This will be one of I think
- 3:45Speaker 3: over a dozen stops were we are doing. We're at
- 3:48Speaker 3: about the halfway point when they bring it to Ohio.
- 3:50Speaker 2: You know those events as well.
- 3:52Speaker 3: So many people you know leave that event, their exit survey,
- 3:56Speaker 3: their follow up of hey, what did you think? How
- 3:58Speaker 3: can we make the event better? Of the things that
- 4:00Speaker 3: we consistently hear is how inspiring it was to sort of,
- 4:03Speaker 3: you know, come together three hundred, four hundred, five hundred
- 4:06Speaker 3: people we've had at some of these events, Brian, and
- 4:08Speaker 3: just celebrate America. Celebrate the great Americans who were volunteers, advocates,
- 4:13Speaker 3: activists in their own communities at their own point in
- 4:15Speaker 3: time through American history, and just reflect on that and
- 4:20Speaker 3: celebrate that. And so I think, you know, if if
- 4:23Speaker 3: that's how what are your listeners is feeling bright, If
- 4:25Speaker 3: that's how maybe even you're feeling right, Brian, Yeah, come
- 4:27Speaker 3: on up and join us at this event. Renew that
- 4:30Speaker 3: American patriotic spirit. That's what this event, this a two
- 4:32Speaker 3: point fifty event, is going to be all about. And
- 4:35Speaker 3: I think if you get out of the social media,
- 4:37Speaker 3: you get also six o'clock news, and you go out
- 4:41Speaker 3: and talk to your friends and neighbors about America, you're
- 4:43Speaker 3: going to find.
- 4:44Speaker 2: It's not as dreary and dire as it might as
- 4:46Speaker 2: it might seem.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was having one of those days yesterday, Donald,
- 4:49Speaker 1: And I don't need to wax poetic about my problems
- 4:51Speaker 1: in my psychological stay, but I was feeling that way.
- 4:53Speaker 2: The other day.
- 4:54Speaker 1: I was talking to my mom, and I was talking
- 4:55Speaker 1: to my wife, and you know, what's wrong with you
- 4:57Speaker 1: is like the I said, it's just the way of
- 4:58Speaker 1: the world. You know, all the albums in the world.
- 5:00Speaker 1: I'm just inundated with them every single day. It's bad
- 5:03Speaker 1: news here and bad news there, and division here and
- 5:05Speaker 1: division there, and you know, it's just it really does
- 5:08Speaker 1: have an impact on your psychology. And it's not a
- 5:10Speaker 1: positive one.
- 5:11Speaker 3: You know.
- 5:11Speaker 1: It was my mom or my wife just said, we'll
- 5:13Speaker 1: just put it down, you know, just we'll quit thinking
- 5:16Speaker 1: about it. I don't know how you turn that switch off, Donovan.
- 5:19Speaker 1: But this social media, and not that I'm a part
- 5:22Speaker 1: of social media, but this the Internet, the information that
- 5:26Speaker 1: I absorb and have to read to do the fifty
- 5:28Speaker 1: five krs Morning show, so I seem to be at
- 5:30Speaker 1: least somewhat understanding of whatever topic we're talking about. It's
- 5:33Speaker 1: all a bunch of constant negativity, Donovan. Can you find
- 5:36Speaker 1: good news in the news anymore?
- 5:39Speaker 2: Well?
- 5:40Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and I think that's part of what
- 5:42Speaker 3: we reflect on. Is eve serious, right? Is that you
- 5:44Speaker 3: know we've got folks like you know, Martin Luther teen junior.
- 5:46Speaker 3: I mean, the guy was assassinated for his beliefs, right. Yeah,
- 5:50Speaker 3: he's stood up every day and walked in the streets. Yeah,
- 5:52Speaker 3: to inspire others to move our country forward. You've got folks,
- 5:56Speaker 3: you know, like the Wright Brothers, a little left level
- 5:58Speaker 3: of adversity, right, But these.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Guys were bicycle shop.
- 6:01Speaker 3: Owners and Dayton, Ohio who you know, developed a concept
- 6:04Speaker 3: that has you know, transformed the world.
- 6:07Speaker 2: And you know, I think you look at.
- 6:10Speaker 3: The people are founding fathers right, like you think the
- 6:13Speaker 3: way of the world is on You imagine having the
- 6:14Speaker 3: British Empire.
- 6:17Speaker 2: You see what you're high.
- 6:19Speaker 1: That's the kind of slab in the face. I need
- 6:21Speaker 1: the intellectual slab in the face. Shut up, Thomas, quit whineing.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Can you imagine being like twenty four years old in
- 6:28Speaker 1: forming a new nation? You know, it's pretty amazing when
- 6:32Speaker 1: you think about it.
- 6:33Speaker 2: It raly is.
- 6:34Speaker 3: So you know, we've got our moment of adversity, right,
- 6:37Speaker 3: our moment of challenge where we have to take the
- 6:40Speaker 3: you know, can we make this American ideal that much
- 6:43Speaker 3: more of a reality for the generation to come right?
- 6:46Speaker 2: Right? And that's that's the challenge we put to people.
- 6:48Speaker 3: It's the opportunity, in some small way we at Americans
- 6:51Speaker 3: were prosper to give people the chance to do and
- 6:54Speaker 3: I think if you're you know, the best thing you
- 6:56Speaker 3: do is come out and join us and help be
- 6:59Speaker 3: a part of that. So if you want to make
- 7:00Speaker 3: this country a better place and solve some of those problems.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Donald, are you currently doing door knocking campaigns right now?
- 7:07Speaker 2: Oh? We're always out there knocking doors. It's the best
- 7:09Speaker 2: way to talk to talk to the people. Okay, we're out. Yeah.
- 7:12Speaker 1: No to that end, I was kind of curious on
- 7:15Speaker 1: a couple of issues what you're hearing with with some
- 7:17Speaker 1: of the folks you interact with. Can you stick around
- 7:20Speaker 1: for a couple more minutes?
- 7:22Speaker 2: Yeah, happy to great.
- 7:23Speaker 1: All right, well let's pause right now. Bring Donovan back
- 7:25Speaker 1: because one of them and I'll give you a heads
- 7:27Speaker 1: up in advance. I want to hear what people are
- 7:28Speaker 1: fifty five KR and talk station seven forty here at
- 7:34Speaker 1: fifty about kroc de talk station bron Thomas with Donovan and Neil.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Find him and get involved AFP Action Ohio. You can
- 7:40Speaker 1: find AFP action dot com form right there. Fill out
- 7:43Speaker 1: your name and email address and they'll get in touch
- 7:46Speaker 1: with you and you will be in to help out
- 7:48Speaker 1: with the door knocking campaign in the state of Ohio.
- 7:50Speaker 1: And speaking of door knocking, I had to hold you over, Donovan,
- 7:52Speaker 1: because I'm really curious this whole property tax thing, and
- 7:55Speaker 1: I don't know where acts the tax is in terms
- 7:57Speaker 1: of getting signatures to eradicate property taxes in the Ohio Constitution.
- 8:01Speaker 1: I mean, as I mentioned, part of me gets kind
- 8:04Speaker 1: of giddy waiting to see what the lawmakers and columbus
- 8:06Speaker 1: are going to do if it does get what it did,
- 8:09Speaker 1: because it's sort of like forcing them to do a
- 8:11Speaker 1: job that they don't want to do. That would be
- 8:13Speaker 1: a huge ask for them to find a solution. But
- 8:16Speaker 1: are you hearing about property taxes in your door knocking efforts, Donovan?
- 8:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it continues to be an issue that's
- 8:24Speaker 3: relevant in general, just people paying tree day much in
- 8:27Speaker 3: tax Yeah.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Period.
- 8:29Speaker 3: And I think that you underlies what you see in
- 8:32Speaker 3: a lot of a polling if you follow any of that,
- 8:33Speaker 3: which is affordability remains a top tier issue for Americans,
- 8:38Speaker 3: regardless of their political stripes. And yeah, we hear that,
- 8:42Speaker 3: and that's the message we drive back to the conversations
- 8:45Speaker 3: we have with lawmakers, whether it's me or my team
- 8:47Speaker 3: directly having them or us bringing activists to a congressman's office.
- 8:52Speaker 3: The challenge here, Brian, and not going to mince words,
- 8:55Speaker 3: is there are a lot of competing interests drawing at
- 8:59Speaker 3: the federal level, especially our members Congress, away from the
- 9:02Speaker 3: things that, in our opinion, they should be focused on,
- 9:05Speaker 3: which is, you know, affordability, unleashing energy abundance, and helping
- 9:09Speaker 3: you know, an active policies we know are going to
- 9:11Speaker 3: bring down the costs across the country.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Well, at least traditionally, I can say Republicans are the
- 9:17Speaker 1: party of lower taxes and less government. I wish there
- 9:20Speaker 1: were more Republicans which have held that pledge, but this
- 9:23Speaker 1: is the world we live in. But I would think
- 9:26Speaker 1: that given the affordability problems we are all facing right now,
- 9:28Speaker 1: how I paid six dollars a gallon yesterday fill my tank.
- 9:31Speaker 1: So I don't like that. But would I vote for
- 9:35Speaker 1: a Democrat because of the problems that we now that well,
- 9:39Speaker 1: let's just say for the sake of argument and discussion
- 9:41Speaker 1: on this point, Donald Trump's war has caused us all
- 9:44Speaker 1: to have to pay a whole lot more. It's got
- 9:46Speaker 1: an inflationary reality. We can make the argument, so that
- 9:48Speaker 1: would say Republicans. I can't vote for evil Republicans because
- 9:52Speaker 1: they're the ones that brought about this this inflation and
- 9:54Speaker 1: this high gas prices. However, Democrats are always the party of
- 9:57Speaker 1: higher taxation. So you would think of four ardability and
- 10:01Speaker 1: democrats typical platform, which is to raise taxes on everyone,
- 10:04Speaker 1: would be you know, maybe sort of inuring to a
- 10:07Speaker 1: benefit of the Republican side of the ledger. Maybe I'm
- 10:09Speaker 1: just looking at it too simplistically, Donovant.
- 10:12Speaker 3: Well, I think you're touching on something that's important, especially
- 10:15Speaker 3: for our friends, the voters who aren't as engaged dialed
- 10:18Speaker 3: into you know, the policies that underlie the you know,
- 10:22Speaker 3: the slick political ads and messaging that so many of
- 10:24Speaker 3: us are are already seeing and we'll certainly see more
- 10:27Speaker 3: of before this this November. And what you need to
- 10:31Speaker 3: really do, right is get to the heart of the
- 10:34Speaker 3: policies that each each party espouses.
- 10:36Speaker 2: And you're right, you know.
- 10:38Speaker 3: The Republican Party for all its ills. The thing that
- 10:42Speaker 3: the consistent through line that I think all Republicans and
- 10:46Speaker 3: I'm among them, believe, is that we believe in free markets,
- 10:49Speaker 3: limited government, lower taxes. And when now here's the challenge
- 10:55Speaker 3: when the party, especially when it's in leadership and of
- 10:59Speaker 3: which it is both in Ohio and in Congress, stays
- 11:02Speaker 3: focused on those principles. Free markets, limited government, lower taxes.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Good things happen.
- 11:08Speaker 3: We saw it last year with that one big beautiful bill,
- 11:11Speaker 3: working family tax cuts. That legislation right helps people keep
- 11:16Speaker 3: more of their hard earned money. Now, when we get
- 11:19Speaker 3: misaligned or we find ourselves you know, you know, strapped
- 11:25Speaker 3: down in the Middle East once again, like we have
- 11:27Speaker 3: found ourselves in the last several months, we lose sight.
- 11:30Speaker 3: And that's a challenge to communicate to the voters. When
- 11:33Speaker 3: what the voters are really focused on, right or lower
- 11:35Speaker 3: energy prices, more affordability, and the ability to keep the
- 11:39Speaker 3: money that they've earned. The difference, you're right, is we
- 11:42Speaker 3: saw what happens under Democrat control. Bidenomics is the playbook
- 11:45Speaker 3: they work from right now, and that means more government spending,
- 11:49Speaker 3: that leads, that fuels inflationary policies and ultimately gets us
- 11:54Speaker 3: to a more dire position as a nation than a
- 11:57Speaker 3: better off one. We you know, it'll tell me the
- 12:00Speaker 3: way we kind of break through this, my opinion, Sorry
- 12:03Speaker 3: to go on at attention here, My opinion here is
- 12:06Speaker 3: we have to hold our elected officials accountable. They, like us,
- 12:10Speaker 3: are humans, and no better pressure than grassroots pressure helps
- 12:14Speaker 3: write the ship and orient people to the things that
- 12:17Speaker 3: they need to be doing as are elected officials. So
- 12:20Speaker 3: if anything, it's on us to take action, to be
- 12:22Speaker 3: involved to make sure that our voice is heard and
- 12:26Speaker 3: our elected officials do the things we sent them to Washington.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Columbus to do, sending them there to hopefully mind the
- 12:33Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars. Is fraud a big topic with your door
- 12:36Speaker 1: knocking campaign. I'm praying that on a going forward basis,
- 12:39Speaker 1: this becomes a dominant campaign issue that we need to
- 12:42Speaker 1: mind our dollars a little bit more, manage them a
- 12:45Speaker 1: little bit more. I saw the Government Accountability Office did
- 12:47Speaker 1: a report looking at one calendar year last year and
- 12:51Speaker 1: the Government Accountability Office and whether or not they're accurate
- 12:54Speaker 1: or not. I said, one hundred and eighty six billion
- 12:57Speaker 1: dollars in improper payments were sent out and met care, Medicaid,
- 13:00Speaker 1: and welfare related programs one calendar year. Donovan, we have
- 13:04Speaker 1: a spending problem and we have a lack of accountability problem.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Is this is this a growing issue for folks?
- 13:11Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, the medicaid.
- 13:13Speaker 3: The reporting on the medicaid fraud in Ohio broke loose.
- 13:17Speaker 3: I mean that went off the charts, on the door knocking,
- 13:19Speaker 3: the conversations we were having this fraud, the ways the
- 13:22Speaker 3: abuse it popped, you know, and I go back to
- 13:24Speaker 3: like doze right a little over a year ago when
- 13:26Speaker 3: dose was in its prime. That was despite what you know,
- 13:30Speaker 3: if you turn on the six o'clock news, you were
- 13:32Speaker 3: being told by ABCNBC and CDs. The people loved that, Yeah,
- 13:36Speaker 3: because they there's nobody fighting to root out that.
- 13:40Speaker 2: That fraud, waste abuse within the system.
- 13:42Speaker 3: And so when you have elected officials that actually become
- 13:45Speaker 3: a bulldog on the issue and really bite down and
- 13:48Speaker 3: don't let go until the bureaucrats, you know, cry uncle,
- 13:53Speaker 3: they reward that that. It's tough with the media, and
- 13:57Speaker 3: it's tough to have the pressure of telling people they're
- 14:00Speaker 3: not going to be.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Able to abuse the system anymore.
- 14:02Speaker 3: But that tenacity, that focus on fighting for the taxpayer,
- 14:07Speaker 3: I believe pays off and is recognized among the people
- 14:11Speaker 3: who get out and vote in the primaries and general
- 14:13Speaker 3: elections around the state.
- 14:14Speaker 1: See that puts a smile on my face, countering what
- 14:17Speaker 1: you read in the news narrative. Yes, people really do care,
- 14:21Speaker 1: they know what's going on, this fraud and they want
- 14:23Speaker 1: something done about it.
- 14:25Speaker 2: So good.
- 14:25Speaker 1: Okay, see, I'm glad we had this conversation, Donovan. Now
- 14:28Speaker 1: feel a lot better than I did ten minutes ago.
- 14:31Speaker 1: Donovan Neil Americans for Prosperity, find them, get involved afpaction
- 14:35Speaker 1: dot com. The team makes it so easy. Thank you
- 14:38Speaker 1: for what you do each and every day. Donald and
- 14:39Speaker 1: I look forward to having on the program next week
- 14:41Speaker 1: again and between now and they have a fantastic week.
- 14:43Speaker 2: My friend always do.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Thanks Brian, appreciate the smile.