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Ken interviews Howard Lim, Secretary of the Conservative Party of NYS. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Dell Mark Simon Show Live from the wor Lifeback Studio
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  Speaker 1: guest Thusday Today, here's camp Rosato and so good to
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  Speaker 1: be with you on a Friday. We go straight to
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  Speaker 1: our phones. We have a great topic to talk about here.
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  Speaker 1: Indiana Republican Senator Jim Banks introduced a bill to codify
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  Speaker 1: President Trump's executive order that reshape the definition of birthright citizenship.
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  Speaker 1: The bill that Banks introduced on Monday is called the
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  Speaker 1: Citizenship Act of twenty twenty six. It requires any person
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  Speaker 1: who comes to the US without authorization or for the
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  Speaker 1: purpose of engaging in birth tourism to be considered an
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  Speaker 1: invader and not automatically entitled to citizenship. Justice Kavanaugh argued
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  Speaker 1: that the issue is statutory, not constitutional, meaning that Congress
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  Speaker 1: can modify the issue. You don't need a whole constitutional amendment.
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  Speaker 1: He wrote that Congress could simply amend Federal Statute fourteen
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  Speaker 1: oh one A to deny the children of illegals or
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  Speaker 1: birthright for his automatic citizenship. That is what this bill does.
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  Speaker 1: And to talk about it is the secretary of the
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  Speaker 1: New York State Conservative Party, Howard Limb. Good morning, Howard, Hi,
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  Speaker 1: Good morning Ken. That's great to have you on. I
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  Speaker 1: know so many people were seething mad when the Supreme
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  Speaker 1: Court issued its ruling. And Americans are fundamentally fair people.
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  Speaker 1: When they see outsiders coming here gaming the system, ostensibly
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  Speaker 1: stealing what is precious saw us, which is our citizenship,
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  Speaker 1: and pocketing government giveaways in the process, it just pisses
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  Speaker 1: people off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. You know, we hoped that this court
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  Speaker 2: would look at the state of immigration and the birthright
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  Speaker 2: citizenship process and realize that it was totally out of control.
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  Speaker 2: We hope that the acts, and the one you mentioned
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  Speaker 2: is not the only one that are going through Congress
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  Speaker 2: will open the door to allow the Supreme Court on
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  Speaker 2: and what will probably be a new case that'll come
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  Speaker 2: up when this law is signed, to relook at the
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  Speaker 2: facts and reverse the Barber decision which came down a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. And we believe that Justice Kavanaugh
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  Speaker 2: and Justice Barrett will, with the new legislation see fit
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  Speaker 2: to correct this problem.
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  Speaker 1: I mean here you had basically Justice Kavanaugh giving a
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  Speaker 1: sort of hint and a roadmap right on how this
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  Speaker 1: could be fixed. That doesn't mean the other justices who
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  Speaker 1: voted their way are going to agree with this correct Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, Barbara. Was a six to three decision. So
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  Speaker 2: we need to turn around two of the justices that
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  Speaker 2: said birthright citizenship is the way it's being processed right now.
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  Speaker 2: We think that obviously Justice Kavanaugh, since he included it,
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  Speaker 2: and his concurrence, will see that the new law opens
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  Speaker 2: that door. And we are very very hopeful that Judge Barrett,
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  Speaker 2: if given the opportunity to hear the Voice of Congress,
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  Speaker 2: which she pointed out her decision, had not said anything
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  Speaker 2: about this previously, will also change her mind.
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  Speaker 1: Seven t wo are the Voice of New York. This
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  Speaker 1: is the Mark Simone Show, Ken Rosato Inframark And on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: and we're speaking to the secretary of the New York
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  Speaker 1: State Conservative Party, Howard Limb. We're talking about birthright citizenship
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  Speaker 1: and a new bill that was just introduced in the
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  Speaker 1: Senate that might amend things and so basically make everything
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  Speaker 1: that was just decided in the Supreme Court flip around again.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with it. So what is different
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  Speaker 1: here is that this first defines any person who enters
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  Speaker 1: the US without authorization or for the purpose of engaging
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  Speaker 1: in birth tourism to be considered an in and it
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  Speaker 1: says that invaders are not entitled to have citizenship granted
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  Speaker 1: to any children whom they give birth to while here.
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  Speaker 1: And because the fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution does not
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  Speaker 1: reference invaders, this would preemptively disqualify them. Right, if you're
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  Speaker 1: called an invader, the Constitution says nothing about an invader
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  Speaker 1: getting that citizenship. So I guess this is the angle
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  Speaker 1: it would work with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well, I think lawyers will focus on the
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  Speaker 2: phrase in the fourteenth Amendment which says subject to the
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  Speaker 2: jurisdiction of We argue that once Congress has passed these
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  Speaker 2: new laws that are currently under consideration, it will define
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  Speaker 2: subject to the jurisdiction of as not applying to illegals.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the Fourteenth Amendment only became a part of
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  Speaker 2: the Constitution three years after the Civil War. It was
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  Speaker 2: passed entirely because of the dread Scott decision, which took
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  Speaker 2: place before the Civil War, and many would our historians
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  Speaker 2: would argue that it was a primary cause of the
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  Speaker 2: Civil War. Dread Scott said that blacks free, whether they
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  Speaker 2: were slaves or freed slaves, could not become citizens. Shortly
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  Speaker 2: three years after the Civil War, the Fourteenth Amendment in
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  Speaker 2: eighteen sixty eight said that blacks were all assumed to
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  Speaker 2: be US citizens and applied that law in the future
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  Speaker 2: to say those born would become US citizens. People have
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  Speaker 2: to understand that there was no real federal control or
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  Speaker 2: regulation of immigration until eighteen ninety one. Prior to that time,
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  Speaker 2: you could show up off a ship in New York
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  Speaker 2: and San Francisco, and as long as a state official,
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  Speaker 2: not a federal official, a state official in New York
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  Speaker 2: California allowed you to step off the ship and onto
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  Speaker 2: the streets of New York or San Francisco. You were
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  Speaker 2: in this country legally, and there were racial policies that
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  Speaker 2: prevented some people from getting off those ships. But the
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  Speaker 2: federal government didn't really take control of the immigration process
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  Speaker 2: until eighteen ninety one, and lo and behold. For instance,
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  Speaker 2: Ellis Island was opened in eighteen ninety two. Until that time,
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  Speaker 2: it was state office buildings in the Battery part of
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  Speaker 2: Manhattan that processed immigration, mostly in a totally laissez faire process.
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  Speaker 2: You were in and you stepped off the ship, you
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  Speaker 2: were allowed to walk around.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine today in Mamdani's New York City if
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  Speaker 1: that were still the case. If you were from any
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  Speaker 1: country but Europe peeking country, you'd be allowed in. That
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  Speaker 1: would be basically mum, Donnie's New York City would be interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the state that we're in.
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  Speaker 1: Today, right, Yeah, that is certainly the case. And of
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  Speaker 1: course there would be a whole new map draught up
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  Speaker 1: and it would not include certain parts of the dry state.
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  Speaker 1: How do you feel And by the way, everybody, we're
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  Speaker 1: speaking to the secretary of the New York State Conservative Party,
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  Speaker 1: Howard limbus is Canrosotto in for Mark today. Howard, how
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  Speaker 1: do you think a this will get through the two houses,
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  Speaker 1: the House and the Senate? Do you think it has
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  Speaker 1: a chance of passing? And b do you think if
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  Speaker 1: it does pass, will it be challenged once again before
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  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court?
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is one of those things that I believe
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  Speaker 2: we may even see some Democrats crossover, particularly those who
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  Speaker 2: might be up for re election soon, and they will
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  Speaker 2: support the change in the immigration law. I would hope
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  Speaker 2: almost every Republican will. And then of course we'll be
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  Speaker 2: in that labyrinth of immediate lawsuits either from people who
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  Speaker 2: have or do not have standing to challenge it. And unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: the way the process works, we might not actually see
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  Speaker 2: the Supreme Court evaluate that new legislation for a year
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  Speaker 2: and a half to two.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll see what happens. He is the secretary
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  Speaker 1: of the New York State Conservative Party, Howard Limb. We
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: Ken, you bet have a good day, good weekend. It
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