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ODE TO AN ICON: Appreciating 2002 World Series hero Garret Anderson; Tim Mead joins · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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Speaker 1: La Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo Territory. I
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Speaker 1: am Mike D. Giovanna, former Ela Times Baseball writer and
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Speaker 1: host of the show with Mark Trumbo, my regular co
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Speaker 1: host and former Angel slugger, and today we welcome to
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Speaker 1: the show. Tim Mead, former Angels vice president of Communications,
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Speaker 1: was with the organization for forty years. And as some
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Speaker 1: of you fans could probably guess as to why Tim
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Speaker 1: is here, we're gonna dedicate this show to Garrett Anderson,
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Speaker 1: one of the all time Angels great players, who passed
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Speaker 1: away Thursday at the very way too young age of
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Speaker 1: fifty three. And Tim, we're taping on Sunday afternoon. Why
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Speaker 1: don't you just start just what have these last few
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Speaker 1: days been like for you? For the Angel family. We
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Speaker 1: know how close knit that group is, and it's like Friday,
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Speaker 1: you know, Urst he was in town, Ak was there,
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Speaker 1: Salmon was out there. It just seemed like almost a
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Speaker 1: therapeutic kind of thing for you guys to get together
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Speaker 1: and to honor him throughout that evening.
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Speaker 2: I think very much so, Mike. It's still surreal. I
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Speaker 2: just came back from the game a short while ago
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Speaker 2: and seeing the remembrance on the scoreboard and they already
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Speaker 2: updated the Calling All Angels video. It's still seeing it,
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Speaker 2: even though I saw the tribute Friday night and have
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Speaker 2: read everything, you know, as much as I could read
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Speaker 2: and look at since you know, it's kind of like
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Speaker 2: we were talking about earlier. We're in a big business
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Speaker 2: where we know a lot of people and we're going
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Speaker 2: to lose people, and each organization goes through things and athletes,
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Speaker 2: you know, the Davy Lopes and the impact there, and
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Speaker 2: you know, when I was in Cooperstown the Hall of
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Speaker 2: famers that passed, they're hard, but this one seemed to
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Speaker 2: really resonate on a different level because I don't think
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Speaker 2: it was just about the athlete. I think people really
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Speaker 2: looked at the totality of the life of the individual
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Speaker 2: and it wasn't just you know, Garrett's stats. I think
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Speaker 2: people had came to really appreciate who he was as
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Speaker 2: a person. And I mean there have just been some
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Speaker 2: heartfelt uh testimonyal testimonials on his behalf that have just
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Speaker 2: you know, brought a lot of tears. And Thursday night,
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Speaker 2: I helped out Calling after I talked to UH, to
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Speaker 2: his son Trey. You know, we just wanted to let
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Speaker 2: as many players knows as possible, and I know I missed,
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Speaker 2: we missed some along the way, but uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: they we didn't want him to hear in the media.
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Speaker 2: And the first reaction, I would say that the largest
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Speaker 2: percentage percentage was you've got to be kidding me. You know,
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Speaker 2: it was shock. It was almost say that again. And
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Speaker 2: then there were some tears as well, and then they
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Speaker 2: all started communicating with each other and it was just
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Speaker 2: really belief.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a lot of as Tim mentioned, a
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Speaker 1: lot of great tributes to Garrett over the weekend. One
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Speaker 1: of them was written by one of my longtime friend colleagues,
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite baseball writers over the last three
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Speaker 1: four decades, Tom Verducci of Sports Illustrated, and he sets
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Speaker 1: up his story by talking about Garrett's biggest hit, probably
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Speaker 1: an Angels franchise history, the basis clearing three run double
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Speaker 1: in Game seven of the World Series in two thousand
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Speaker 1: and two. Tommy writes upon the biggest hit of his life,
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Speaker 1: one of only two three run doubles to bust open
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Speaker 1: a tide World Series Game seven, as teammates rejoiced and
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Speaker 1: fans whooped, hollered, and banged their thunderstick noisemakers. Garrett Anderson
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Speaker 1: never so much as opened his mouth. He stood there
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Speaker 1: on second base, the joyous mayhem of Angels Stadium, raging
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Speaker 1: as if set a fire. With his face fixed in
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Speaker 1: its usual state of preternatural calm. He allowed himself the
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Speaker 1: smallest of celebrations, which for him was as much of
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Speaker 1: a departure from his stoicism as cameras ever caught. He
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Speaker 1: applauded politely beautiful writing from Tom and I personally. I
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Speaker 1: you know, Garrett and I we kind of started in
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Speaker 1: the same year in nineteen ninety five, and I covered
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Speaker 1: him his entire career. And I'm not sure you'll read
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Speaker 1: anything that better captures Ga as a player and a person,
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Speaker 1: because I've I've been a sportswriter for forty six years,
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Speaker 1: baseball writer for thirty two years. It interviewed, covered thousands
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Speaker 1: of athletes. I can't think of any athlete, and I'm
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Speaker 1: not exaggerating here who is more even keeled on the
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Speaker 1: field and off the field than Garrett Anderson. But it
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Speaker 1: wasn't just that athletic. You know, got avoid the highs,
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Speaker 1: you know, don't get the highs too high, don't let
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Speaker 1: the lowers get too low. It was him as a
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Speaker 1: person in a lot of ways too, Tim, and you
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Speaker 1: knew him as well as anybody. How did that sort
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Speaker 1: of persona sort of manifest on the field and off
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Speaker 1: and how it seemed like it contributed to him as
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Speaker 1: being a better person off the field and being a
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Speaker 1: better baseball person on the field.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that was beautiful riding, Mike, and your
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Speaker 2: follow up is equally as wonderful, But it did capture
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Speaker 2: the essence. I had Garrett in my class sports business
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Speaker 2: class at wood your last semester, and I asked him
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Speaker 2: that question because I knew what the answer was, But
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Speaker 2: what was he thinking in the moment, you know, on
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Speaker 2: the biggest stage and the biggest game, you know, and
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Speaker 2: when all the you see so many celebrations handled differently.
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Speaker 2: And Garrett would told the classes he's told me, he goes,
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Speaker 2: I knew the job wasn't finished, you know, That's what
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Speaker 2: I was supposed to do. That's an expectancy had of himself.
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Speaker 2: But the game wasn't over, so he just he didn't
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Speaker 2: want to get out of the out of the moment
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Speaker 2: and ahead of himself, which really was the way that
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Speaker 2: two thousand what that two thousand and two club was
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Speaker 2: all about. But once Garrett and you to it, Mike,
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Speaker 2: once you were kind of inside Garrett's protective fence, not
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Speaker 2: defensive fence, but protective. You were locked in with him
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Speaker 2: and just every aspect of his life from a husband,
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Speaker 2: what you know, the relationship with Ian Teresaid, to being
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Speaker 2: a father, to just being a friend, to being a professional,
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Speaker 2: the way he treated people. I would tell the folks
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Speaker 2: that are going to listen to this, there's not an
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Speaker 2: exaggeration out there of what people have been saying about him.
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Speaker 2: That's the way he was. That's the way he was
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Speaker 2: when he started, and that's the way he was, you know,
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Speaker 2: when he was at the height of his career and
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Speaker 2: finishing his career. And that's the way he continued as
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Speaker 2: a broadcaster as well, and he became a fixture at
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Speaker 2: the ballpark. He became a fixture at the special events
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Speaker 2: and ceremonies at the ballpark. But I don't know that
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Speaker 2: I really I don't recall him ever raising his voice.
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Speaker 2: He kind of questioned some things every now and then,
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Speaker 2: But when Garrett would do that or you'd have a
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Speaker 2: discussion about something, he was kind of factually based, fact based,
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Speaker 2: not so much emotion, and I think that helped him.
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Speaker 2: I just think that helped his approach and everything he did.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Garrett, Garrett was not a Hall of Famer by
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Speaker 1: Cooper's down standards, but he was inducted in the Angels
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And man, when you look back at
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Speaker 1: his numbers, and I know he was probably penalized for
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Speaker 1: playing at the height of the steroid eras. When Garrett was,
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Speaker 1: as I told Steve Henson the LA Times, he was
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Speaker 1: like a metronome. You could set the clock to him.
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Speaker 1: Every year He's gonna hit twenty five thirty homers, driving
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Speaker 1: ninety hundred, sometimes one hundred and twenty. And you know, meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: guys who he was competing against were hitting forty fifty,
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Speaker 1: sixty sometimes seventy home runs, driving in one hundred and forty.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I know Garrett had way too much
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Speaker 1: integrity to even think about doing stuff like that. But
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Speaker 1: when you look at his overall numbers Angels leaders in games,
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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen hits, twenty three sixty eight total bases, thirty
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Speaker 1: seven forty three extra base hits, seven hundred and ninety
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Speaker 1: six doubles for eighty nine and RBI is twelve ninety two.
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Speaker 1: And you know, Mike Trout may pass some of these
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Speaker 1: one day, but those are some incredible standards out of
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Speaker 1: player mark. When you grew up in Orange County watching GA,
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Speaker 1: My goodness, when you look at those numbers, what a career, huh,
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Speaker 1: To say the least, I did take a look today.
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Speaker 1: Unbelievable career. As you know, he was the age I'm
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Speaker 1: forty now, but it was kind of that sweet spot
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Speaker 1: where I was old enough to comprehend what I was
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Speaker 1: watching as I was, you know, I believe around a
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Speaker 1: high school age player myself and both him and Tim
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Speaker 1: Salmon because we often thanks that we'd sit in the
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Speaker 1: outfield bleachers or down the line, sometimes obstructed by the
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Speaker 1: foul poles. But that's not the important part. What I
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Speaker 1: did get to see is a front row seat to
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Speaker 1: these guys play and they the thing about it.
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Speaker 3: It was the style of ball, but extremely fundamentally sound.
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Speaker 3: I think that we've talked about and we talked about
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Speaker 3: with Toy two. I think Eric probably took a ton
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Speaker 3: of pride in the numbers that you mentioned and being
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Speaker 3: absolutely counted on and reliable to produce those year and
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Speaker 3: a year out. I'm sure Sos and the other managers
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Speaker 3: he played for couldn't wait to pencil his name into
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Speaker 3: the lineup. I mean it played every day. I know
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Speaker 3: some of the outfield talks, and what I saw was
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Speaker 3: just a very capable defender that played very smart. He
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Speaker 3: was in the right position at the right time, strong,
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Speaker 3: accurate throwing arm. You know, some of the news maybe
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Speaker 3: didn't lay out as often as possible, but as we've
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Speaker 3: talked about in a few things, and Tim touched on it,
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Speaker 3: it's not always the best for the team and the
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Speaker 3: best for the player. But he was incredibly athletic too.
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Speaker 3: There was no when I watched him, graceful runner and
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Speaker 3: he you know, as far as the personality and the celebrations,
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Speaker 3: I think I have, I can relate to that.
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Speaker 1: More than most.
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Speaker 3: I've been accused of not showing a lot of emotions
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Speaker 3: at times on the show, but it's the same if
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Speaker 3: you were to look at some of the highlights. And
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Speaker 3: I can't speak for Garrett, but I can speak for
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Speaker 3: myself that it just didn't come naturally to do some
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Speaker 3: of the more trendy things that you know, it's not
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Speaker 3: better or worse, It just it's I did feel like
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Speaker 3: it was part of the job, and I wasn't ever
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Speaker 3: looking to show anybody up either, So I think there
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Speaker 3: was probably a time and a place that Garrett did celebrate.
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Speaker 3: It wouldn't have looked like you know, I'm kind of
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Speaker 3: curious Avid Golfer if he I can ask and I'll
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Speaker 3: find out if he had any hole in ones, because
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Speaker 3: I always dreaded that, you know, having to do something
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Speaker 3: because you know, obviously you're supposed to.
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Speaker 1: I did get one.
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Speaker 3: It was with a close friend and it wasn't much,
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Speaker 3: So I'm just wondering things like that. It paints a
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Speaker 3: better picture. I just found him to be an utter professional,
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Speaker 3: a very kind person to somebody who was much younger.
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Speaker 3: But you know, I was able to approach him before
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Speaker 3: I did the twenty twelve home run derby. I was
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Speaker 3: a little intimidated, or a lot intimidated, and I don't
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Speaker 3: really know why. Maybe Tim can answer that. But Garrett was,
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Speaker 3: you know, he was a little bit well stoic. As
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Speaker 3: you guys said, he wasn't the easiest to approach. But
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Speaker 3: somebody told me, you know, stop being such a whimp
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Speaker 3: or maybe paraphrasing, but and go talk to the guy.
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Speaker 3: He will talk to you, but you have to make
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Speaker 3: the introduction. And so I did, and I said, he Garrett,
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Speaker 3: you know, probably timidly, and I'm going to do this
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Speaker 3: Homer in Derby, and I was wondering if you had
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Speaker 3: a few thoughts and any advice. And you know, once
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Speaker 3: I kind of opened the door, he took it and
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Speaker 3: ran very encouraging and had some you know when I
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Speaker 3: was actually doing a breathing through my eyes and it
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Speaker 3: went with very fast. But I did take some of
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Speaker 3: the things he said to heart, but it was more
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Speaker 3: just the fact that he took the time to do it.
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Speaker 3: I still remember that very buddly were.
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Speaker 1: Tim and we'll get right back in the other end
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Speaker 1: And welcome back to Helo Territory. On Mike Dgivano with
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Speaker 1: Mark Trumbo and Tim me the former Angels vice president
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Speaker 1: of Communications. Tim the floor is yours now.
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Speaker 2: You know Mark, you alluded to the consistency and the
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Speaker 2: gracefulness in the outfield. I think one of the things
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Speaker 2: that Garrett was very, very proud of was that stretch
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Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety six through two thousand and three in
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Speaker 2: which he played one hundred and fifty or more games
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Speaker 2: each of those seasons. He wanted to be counted upon,
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Speaker 2: he wanted to post and the discussion that came up
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Speaker 2: several times post career, was it in two thousand and
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Speaker 2: two thousand and one when his daughter was going through
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Speaker 2: some health issues concerns that Garrett flew back as I
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Speaker 2: recall from Kansas City after a night game and made
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Speaker 2: the doctor's appointment the next morning, then flew to Kansas
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Speaker 2: City for the game that night, and so it's just
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Speaker 2: kind of taking care of him. Just didn't pencil him
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Speaker 2: in the lineup that night just because of the travel
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Speaker 2: and everything. Garrett played one hundred and sixty one games
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Speaker 2: that year. That would have been the one season that
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Speaker 2: he had one hundred and sixty two. So you know,
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Speaker 2: we're playing a game. Even the numbers you just rattled
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Speaker 2: off Mike earlier, it's a game of offensive numbers and
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Speaker 2: production and all those. But Garrett Anderson was just as
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Speaker 2: proud of being able to be relied upon as anything
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Speaker 2: else he did in an Angel uniform, in a major
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Speaker 2: league uniform.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was honored to get a call from Steve
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Speaker 1: Henson with the LA Times and to be quoted in
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Speaker 1: the story about Garrett's passing, and one of the things
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Speaker 1: I said, as Garrett never sought the limelight. I sort
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Speaker 1: of described him as a classic lunch pale guy. He
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Speaker 1: just came to work, did his job every day. He
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Speaker 1: was a superstar, he just didn't act like it. Tim,
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Speaker 1: What did you sort of see in his personality that
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Speaker 1: allowed him to rise to the game's highest level World
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Speaker 1: Series Champion Game seven hero yet act like, you know,
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Speaker 1: the twenty six guy on the roster, whether it's in
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Speaker 1: the clubhouse, on the field, He's just a different guy
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Speaker 1: that way, Mike.
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Speaker 2: That's just the way he treated everybody. Garrett Anderson respected
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Speaker 2: the game of baseball, and some of the best conversations
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Speaker 2: you could have with him, aside from family, aside from
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Speaker 2: his faith, was just about the game. You know, as
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Speaker 2: I said earlier that he and Edward O. Perez probably
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Speaker 2: had two of the highest baseball IQs that that I
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Speaker 2: ever came across. Garrett was a student of the game.
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Speaker 2: The other thing, like in the clubhouse, Garrett would sit
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Speaker 2: at that locker and he knew what was going on.
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Speaker 2: He would study people. He just he knew and he
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Speaker 2: had that look, you know, you actually you spoke earlier
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Speaker 2: about some people would be intimidated. He could go from
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Speaker 2: that stoic look to that million dollar smile, and that's
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Speaker 2: what made him so amazing to me. When he was happy,
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Speaker 2: he could smile with the best of any athlete. You
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Speaker 2: see on the cover of you know, any comment there
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Speaker 2: it is, I mean, it's just wonderful. But he was
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Speaker 2: about business on the field. There were times that people
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Speaker 2: would say, well, I see so and so signing autographs
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Speaker 2: or taking photos, but Garrett's not signing.
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Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 2: He was told from a young age that the field
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Speaker 2: as you're off by Rod Crew, who he just looked
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Speaker 2: up to so much, that the field as you're off.
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Speaker 2: You know, you remember how Rody used to keep people
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Speaker 2: away from the cage during VP because everybody well, so
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Speaker 2: Garrett honored that. You know, Garrett looked at the field
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Speaker 2: and preparation is the office. And then when he would
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Speaker 2: go in the clubhouse, he took care of all the
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Speaker 2: other things we needed and to do. More importantly, and
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Speaker 2: I've alluded to this, he signed, He signed fan mail
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Speaker 2: every single day. He was either at his locker or
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Speaker 2: at that table in front of his locker. Garrett Anderson
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Speaker 2: didn't throw anything away. He signed it. If there was
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Speaker 2: something special, he'd ask you about it. But he took
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Speaker 2: the time. I mean, it was part of his program,
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Speaker 2: part of his discipline. He was a very happy person.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he really was happy. But he enjoyed the clubhouse.
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Speaker 2: He enjoyed his camaraderie and relationship with people on all levels.
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Speaker 2: You know, a title and a business card meant nothing
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Speaker 2: to him, your status within an organization. He would be
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Speaker 2: respect full, but he judged the person, not the role
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Speaker 2: or not the title.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this to him, but
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Speaker 1: this story we'll give you an idea of how unassuming
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Speaker 1: Garrett was and how much he just didn't want to
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Speaker 1: draw attention to himself. You remember his rookie year, he
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Speaker 1: came up, he's tearing it up, and we were all
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Speaker 1: spelling his name with two t's, his first name, Garrett
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Speaker 1: with two te's, and I don't know, I'm pretty sure
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Speaker 1: it was wrong in the media guide. All the writers
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Speaker 1: were spelling it wrong for weeks. And how long did
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Speaker 1: it finally take. I don't know if it was the
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Speaker 1: following year or later in that ninety five season, he
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Speaker 1: finally he probably mentioned it to you like, hey, there's
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Speaker 1: one tea in my first name. But he just didn't
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Speaker 1: want to make a big deal about it.
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Speaker 2: Garrett didn't complain about things. Garrett, he didn't If something
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Speaker 2: was out of sorts, he asked the clubhouse, equipment managers.
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Speaker 2: He just he took care of things. Baseball was his
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Speaker 2: job of vocation he loved. But he didn't look to
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Speaker 2: make waves. I mean, he was a great teammate, you know, Mark,
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Speaker 2: you talk about going to him, it's he was more
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Speaker 2: than willing to give the information. But he just didn't
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Speaker 2: you know, he wasn't that guy that just had to
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Speaker 2: work a clubhouse or you know, work his teammates. He
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Speaker 2: was always available. He was somebody that didn't want to
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Speaker 2: be treated differently when he got his ten years or
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Speaker 2: he had his success and all that. I just he's
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Speaker 2: just really and I think that's what's so hard for people,
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Speaker 2: you know now, is is the appreciation for the totality
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Speaker 2: of his life, the way he lived his life, because
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Speaker 2: he didn't do anything different as a ballplayer than he
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Speaker 2: did when he was out of uniform. When he finally retired,
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Speaker 2: guys after seventeen years, he made that adjustment. He didn't
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Speaker 2: go into withdraws. He didn't, you know, I remember wins.
19:52
Speaker 2: He just found a different vocation. Obviously, the organization set
19:56
Speaker 2: up the opportunity from to do broadcasting a little bit
19:59
Speaker 2: and went back to school. Was an excellent father, spent
20:03
Speaker 2: a lot of time, you know, working on his faith,
20:05
Speaker 2: and you know, he just he just went right back
20:09
Speaker 2: into society, everyday society.
20:11
Speaker 1: Tim, what was that story I saw you were quoted
20:13
Speaker 1: in the story over the weekend when he went to
20:15
Speaker 1: class at Irvine Valley College and they had to they
20:18
Speaker 1: had to tell a little bit about themselves. And what
20:20
Speaker 1: did Garrett say?
20:24
Speaker 2: I don't remember that one, Mike.
20:26
Speaker 1: He said, they we asked they were going around the
20:28
Speaker 1: room and you had to describe yourself, and he said,
20:30
Speaker 1: my name's Garrett Anderson's father. I suppose that League baseball player.
20:38
Speaker 2: Well, Mike, and I wasn't you know that one? The
20:42
Speaker 2: one that standards stood out was even wittier. It was
20:45
Speaker 2: very When he came to my class last semester, you
20:48
Speaker 2: kind of had to pull a little bit for him
20:50
Speaker 2: to talk about baseball. You just talked about failure. He
20:54
Speaker 2: talked about preparation, He talked about having a plan. The
20:58
Speaker 2: last thing that I asked him, you know, the last
21:01
Speaker 2: question I asked him in that class was what would
21:03
Speaker 2: you tell these students for the future, And he said,
21:08
Speaker 2: have a plan. If something doesn't work out, have a backup.
21:12
Speaker 2: And that's what That's the way I think Garrett lived
21:15
Speaker 2: his life. He had a plan each and every day,
21:17
Speaker 2: and he made adjustments accordingly, you know. And I when
21:21
Speaker 2: I talk about baseball, IQ, when we were in Chicago,
21:26
Speaker 2: you know, three for the All Star Game, obviously after winning,
21:29
Speaker 2: to know too, the staff Mike's and his staff joined us.
21:33
Speaker 2: Garrett was in the home run derby and I don't
21:35
Speaker 2: know what he told you, Mark, you know, to help you.
21:38
Speaker 2: But we asked him down on the field, you know, what,
21:41
Speaker 2: do you really think your chances are in this thing?
21:45
Speaker 2: And he stood back and he wasn't being arrogant about it,
21:48
Speaker 2: but just kind of confident and observant. He said, watch everybody,
21:52
Speaker 2: it's Max Effort falling in love with the distance. And
21:56
Speaker 2: they pointed and I think it was three eighty five
21:58
Speaker 2: to the hour out and you said, see that sign.
22:01
Speaker 2: I got to hit it three eighty six.
22:07
Speaker 1: That night, and he hit every home run to the
22:09
Speaker 1: gap and right center, and I bet you you didn't
22:11
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Speaker 1: And welcome back to Halo Territory. Mark Trumbo, you said
23:28
Speaker 1: you were in high school for a lot of Garrett's
23:30
Speaker 1: career here. Did you notice his demeanor that Tim and
23:34
Speaker 1: I are talking about on the field. Did you see
23:36
Speaker 1: anything that you looked at and said, you know, that's
23:39
Speaker 1: the way to do it. This is the guy I
23:41
Speaker 1: want to model myself after. And did he impact you
23:44
Speaker 1: in that way as a player?
23:47
Speaker 3: I think so when you know, as I did, live
23:52
Speaker 3: locally and this is the team you watch, the whole
23:55
Speaker 3: team was I don't remember. I mean, there were some
23:58
Speaker 3: guys that were probably a little flashier than others. Tim
24:01
Speaker 3: might be able to answer that better, but by and large,
24:03
Speaker 3: it was a very hard nosed grinder mentality top to bottom.
24:09
Speaker 3: I think had a big part in that, but all
24:13
Speaker 3: of the players just it seemed like came to work,
24:16
Speaker 3: ready to play, ready to win, and very mentally tough.
24:20
Speaker 3: I think that that is something that stood out as
24:23
Speaker 3: much as anything. These guys were and Adam Kennedy actually
24:27
Speaker 3: gave me some advice at one point. He said, this
24:29
Speaker 3: is a grown man's game played by men, and he
24:33
Speaker 3: was right. It's what it takes. It was an old
24:36
Speaker 3: school mentality compared to today, very old school, but it's the way.
24:40
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have had it any other way. It made
24:44
Speaker 3: me resilient. And watching a guy like Garrett out there
24:48
Speaker 3: set an example, even though I wasn't a member of
24:50
Speaker 3: the organization, It just you couldn't help but notice this
24:54
Speaker 3: guy's out there every day. He plays extremely hard. And
24:58
Speaker 3: watching him at the plate too as a hitter, I
25:02
Speaker 3: don't know if I ever saw anyone and it was
25:04
Speaker 3: noted on the broadcast and at times, but setting the
25:08
Speaker 3: pitcher up, he at times would look awfully fooled, maybe
25:13
Speaker 3: by a nice breaking ball early in the bat, and
25:17
Speaker 3: way more often than not would come around at some
25:21
Speaker 3: point on that same pitch, maybe in a little better
25:23
Speaker 3: spot to hit it, and he would not miss it.
25:27
Speaker 3: What not always for a home run, probably one of
25:29
Speaker 3: those patent doubles that he was, you know, well known for.
25:34
Speaker 3: But he made those kind of adjustments that you absolutely
25:38
Speaker 3: admired as someone you know that's really watching the game.
25:42
Speaker 3: A tremendous fastball hitter too, you know, being able to
25:45
Speaker 3: pull the ball like he did, and he did use
25:49
Speaker 3: the whole field day. I remember he kind of stepped
25:50
Speaker 3: in the bucket is the very elementary way to put it,
25:55
Speaker 3: you know, a little bit of an open stride, open stance.
25:57
Speaker 3: But it was a perfect matchup. I've seen some say
26:00
Speaker 3: that his swing is one of the smoothest they've ever seen,
26:03
Speaker 3: maybe Ken Griffey Jr. Being number one subjective, so at
26:08
Speaker 3: least for me, effortless comes to mind. It was not
26:12
Speaker 3: really effortless, but it looked that way. You know, I
26:15
Speaker 3: wish in mind, you know, it doesn't matter about mine,
26:18
Speaker 3: but let's say it didn't come that. It looked a
26:21
Speaker 3: little more violent. I wish I had the grace that
26:24
Speaker 3: he did. But I think it was really neat here
26:27
Speaker 3: and some of the other anecdotes, like Scott Spiezio, I
26:30
Speaker 3: believe was talking about some of the the humorous side
26:34
Speaker 3: he wore him out about it. Maybe is suit or yeah,
26:39
Speaker 3: his style a little bit, But I think that paints
26:41
Speaker 3: a really a cool picture because I've never heard that.
26:44
Speaker 3: I know he has a good sense of humor, but
26:46
Speaker 3: I think he probably is more comfortable sharing it with
26:49
Speaker 3: with you know, tim, guys like you, uh and and
26:51
Speaker 3: I think that that would be nice to touch on
26:53
Speaker 3: just a little bit, because he wasn't all serious. I know,
26:56
Speaker 3: we talked about him smiling, but it was Samon talked
26:58
Speaker 3: about it too, very fun.
27:00
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
27:02
Speaker 2: He was very comfortable around his teammates, and he could
27:05
Speaker 2: come up with some quips at the right time, and
27:09
Speaker 2: he and person going back and forth together. I mean,
27:11
Speaker 2: that whole group guys was just you know, they came
27:15
Speaker 2: up through the system. And when people talk about the
27:17
Speaker 2: importance of your farm system, Yeah, it's great to produce
27:21
Speaker 2: the players, but I say it's great to have people
27:24
Speaker 2: grow together and know each other. And I think that
27:27
Speaker 2: was a big part of two as well. Garrett recognized
27:31
Speaker 2: the moment. Garrett knew how to just I'm not going
27:36
Speaker 2: to say you ever stood up and led a team meeting,
27:40
Speaker 2: but he could inject humor on the bus or kind
27:44
Speaker 2: of continue the ribbing if somebody had started it initially.
27:48
Speaker 2: But I never heard him personalized. I never heard him
27:52
Speaker 2: go over the top with anybody about anything. You know,
27:57
Speaker 2: we just talk about the person and you can't begin
28:00
Speaker 2: to cover it in the time on this show. But
28:02
Speaker 2: I don't know another athlete in sports that I've ever
28:06
Speaker 2: heard of that stayed in touch with his middle schooler
28:10
Speaker 2: is junior high and like Garrett Anderson did. And one
28:14
Speaker 2: of the most profound impactful individuals in his life was
28:18
Speaker 2: a gentleman named Parker Lufton who was a teacher for
28:22
Speaker 2: at McClay Middle School and his basketball coach. And every
28:27
Speaker 2: year when Garrett played for US and then post career
28:30
Speaker 2: when he was broadcasting, he would buy tickets for a
28:34
Speaker 2: game for the students that had gotten a's and done
28:37
Speaker 2: very well, and it was generally eighty or one hundred kids.
28:41
Speaker 2: We'd bring him up to the broadcast level and Garrett
28:44
Speaker 2: would speak with him before they went out to the game.
28:48
Speaker 2: That continued for I'm going to say twenty four to
28:51
Speaker 2: twenty five years. He met his wife, Teresa McLay, and
28:56
Speaker 2: this gentleman had just a tremendous impact and what Garrett
29:01
Speaker 2: would talk to the kids about the things he learned
29:04
Speaker 2: in the lessons. That's one of the times that I
29:07
Speaker 2: could consistently count on seeing that million dollar smile when
29:10
Speaker 2: he talked about what Parker left and had meant to
29:13
Speaker 2: him in the impact.
29:16
Speaker 1: Another thing I'm not sure Garrett got a lot of
29:17
Speaker 1: credit for was being a great mentor to some of
29:20
Speaker 1: the younger players. You know, we saw him come up
29:22
Speaker 1: in ninety five and Chillie Davis took him under took
29:26
Speaker 1: Garrett under his wing, and boy, as his career evolved
29:29
Speaker 1: and he became a star, he did the same thing
29:32
Speaker 1: with Sean Figgins, Howie Kendrick, Tim Could you see his
29:36
Speaker 1: impact on some of these players as they sort of
29:40
Speaker 1: developed into this world, you know, perennial playoff contender that
29:43
Speaker 1: we saw in the first decade of the two thousands
29:46
Speaker 1: that developed into a World Series champion, no.
29:49
Speaker 2: Doubt about it. I mean, from Rod kru being the
29:52
Speaker 2: hitting coach and spending the time with Garrett, to Chili
29:56
Speaker 2: Davis and what Chile imparted Chile is Chile's one of
30:00
Speaker 2: the smartest hitting coaches or hitters ever been around. And
30:06
Speaker 2: then Garrett would pass that around, you know, to down
30:10
Speaker 2: to Figie and others. And again, as Mark mentioned earlier,
30:13
Speaker 2: anybody who wanted to listen, I think sometimes there's a
30:16
Speaker 2: there's a hesitancy to ask for guidance, and then once
30:21
Speaker 2: you kind of open that door, whether it's postgame, the
30:26
Speaker 2: team dinners or whatever. Garrett loved to talk baseball, but
30:30
Speaker 2: he didn't talk hitting to the young players as if
30:33
Speaker 2: this is what you have to do. He talked about
30:36
Speaker 2: it about considering. He studied pictures. I mean, he absolutely
30:41
Speaker 2: studied pictures. He he and Eddie were just or we're
30:45
Speaker 2: good about picking up signs. Garrett wasn't distracted during the
30:50
Speaker 2: games he watched, he studied. He wasn't going back up
30:54
Speaker 2: upstairs in the clubhouse and coming back out. He was
30:57
Speaker 2: He was focused. He loved a talk base well.
31:01
Speaker 1: The one knock on Garrett was that he didn't dive
31:03
Speaker 1: in the gaps. He didn't crash into walls. You know,
31:06
Speaker 1: there was some early in his career he had a
31:08
Speaker 1: little bit of a reputation. In full disclosure, there was
31:11
Speaker 1: a game in remember in Camden Yards tim in ninety
31:13
Speaker 1: eight where he didn't run out of ball. A ball
31:17
Speaker 1: back to the mound, a grounder back to the mound.
31:18
Speaker 1: The throwing I think it was Ericson or something on
31:21
Speaker 1: the mound, or maybe it was Messina pulled the first
31:23
Speaker 1: basement way off the bag. First baseman jumps up, catched it,
31:27
Speaker 1: and you know there was like two men on base
31:29
Speaker 1: and Terry Collins pull them in the middle of that game.
31:31
Speaker 1: I'm going to guess that was the last time that
31:33
Speaker 1: ever happened, but I've mentioned it on this show a
31:36
Speaker 1: couple of times. I personally think Garrett was a victim
31:40
Speaker 1: of playing next to Jim Edmonds. And Darren Nurse said,
31:43
Speaker 1: all these years as he came up, Jim Edmonds, as
31:46
Speaker 1: we know, one of the greatest center fielders of all time,
31:48
Speaker 1: just spectacular. And Darren Nurse said, whose personality, as he
31:52
Speaker 1: admitted Friday night, was as polar opposite as Garrett. I
31:56
Speaker 1: think for some reason, I don't know why Garrett didn't
31:59
Speaker 1: rub off on Darreners's said, but Darren was one of
32:01
Speaker 1: the most intense guys, intense competitors I've ever seen. But
32:05
Speaker 1: when did that evolved him Where we finally started to
32:08
Speaker 1: appreciate Garrett for being in the lineup every day, for
32:13
Speaker 1: his production as a cleanup batter on a great team,
32:17
Speaker 1: And I personally think his defense really evolved into him
32:20
Speaker 1: becoming a darn good left fielder one.
32:23
Speaker 2: Hundred percent like And that was the next thing I
32:25
Speaker 2: was going to bring up. I think he did pay
32:27
Speaker 2: a price for being compared to to you know, phenomenal
32:31
Speaker 2: center field or something that the Angels have always seemed
32:33
Speaker 2: to develop. Garrett played that left field corner as well
32:36
Speaker 2: as anybody, and it's spin around in the throw. I
32:39
Speaker 2: mean he was he was outstanding. I think, like a
32:42
Speaker 2: lot of things with the Angels, O two changed it.
32:45
Speaker 2: You know, I can't really say that he got all
32:47
Speaker 2: the credit he should have for, you know, posting one
32:50
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty or more games during that stretch. But
32:53
Speaker 2: I think after that hit in Game seven, after the
32:56
Speaker 2: postseason he had and then the success that continued, I
33:00
Speaker 2: think I think people paid a little bit more attention.
33:05
Speaker 2: You know, it's just again, it's just what this show
33:08
Speaker 2: is about and what all the tributes are about. Sometimes
33:11
Speaker 2: you have to take a look back to realize maybe
33:14
Speaker 2: what you missed that was right in front of your
33:16
Speaker 2: eyes all the time.
33:17
Speaker 1: And Garrett was definitely one for self awareness. I don't
33:20
Speaker 1: remember this quote he told Bill Plashki, the Great La
33:24
Speaker 1: Times Calumnists, after that World Series. He says, interesting, I
33:28
Speaker 1: used to be called lazy. Now that we win a
33:31
Speaker 1: World Series, I'm called graceful. And that was Garrett. You know,
33:36
Speaker 1: we may not have seen him smile, you know twenty
33:38
Speaker 1: four to seven. But he had a great sense of humor,
33:40
Speaker 1: and I don't know personally, he always was more less
33:43
Speaker 1: comfortable talking about himself. I think the best conversations we
33:47
Speaker 1: ever had over the years were about the Lakers, or
33:49
Speaker 1: about NFL, or about anything but baseball. Just Garrett did
33:53
Speaker 1: not want to focus that attention on himself.
33:56
Speaker 2: Garrett was you know, obviously he loved history, but Garrett
34:01
Speaker 2: studied things, Garrett read. Garrett wanted to be informed, so
34:05
Speaker 2: he just didn't have as I alluded to earlier, he
34:07
Speaker 2: just didn't have emotional conversations of opinions and thoughts he
34:11
Speaker 2: could back it up. I mean, they were great intelligent conversations.
34:16
Speaker 2: We get together for lunch and talk about things. One
34:19
Speaker 2: of the things we talked about that he had appreciation
34:21
Speaker 2: for that I hope people understand was his love and
34:25
Speaker 2: respect for the history of baseball. I mean it just
34:29
Speaker 2: really admired the history, the Negro League Museum, Jackie Robinson,
34:34
Speaker 2: the role he studied things. He also was not somebody
34:37
Speaker 2: that spent his time looking back and saying comparing generations.
34:42
Speaker 2: He just he looked at everything in the present. Garrett
34:47
Speaker 2: was very comfortable with who Garrett was. I mean, he
34:50
Speaker 2: didn't he didn't try to prove anything to anybody because
34:54
Speaker 2: it was good enough for him, was good enough for
34:56
Speaker 2: his teammates, and more importantly, he was good enough for
34:59
Speaker 2: his family.
35:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. That segues perfectly into what I was
35:02
Speaker 1: going to get into next. One thing I was respecting
35:05
Speaker 1: about Garrett was he baseball did not define him by
35:08
Speaker 1: any means. As great a player as he was, that
35:11
Speaker 1: was just a small part of his life. And one
35:13
Speaker 1: of the things that really stood out to me when
35:15
Speaker 1: you know, I've talked a lot to Tim Salmon over
35:17
Speaker 1: these last few days, who knew him as well as anybody.
35:21
Speaker 1: You know, Tim Salmon, probably there'll be great memories, but
35:25
Speaker 1: he will remember Garrett Anderson for the father, he was,
35:27
Speaker 1: the husband, he was the example he set, you know,
35:30
Speaker 1: for his kids, and I wanted to close the show
35:32
Speaker 1: with that. Tim. As great a player as Garrett was,
35:36
Speaker 1: you know, take us a little behind the scenes on
35:40
Speaker 1: how he put baseball in perspective, and you know how
35:44
Speaker 1: he put his family at the forefront, because that's not
35:47
Speaker 1: easy to do as a professional baseball player.
35:50
Speaker 2: Was his job, it was his job. He had a
35:53
Speaker 2: god given skill set, he honed. He honed those skills
35:57
Speaker 2: to be the best he could.
35:58
Speaker 1: Be at it.
35:59
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day when he went home,
36:02
Speaker 2: he didn't have sleepless nights. I'm sure you know, like
36:05
Speaker 2: any any athlete, you know, when you're going through a
36:07
Speaker 2: slump or a bad period of time, you worry a
36:10
Speaker 2: little bit. But Garrett was comfortable. Garrett was again. I
36:15
Speaker 2: alluded to making the appointment with his daughter from Kansas City, Bailey, Brittany,
36:22
Speaker 2: Trey and Teresa were the most important things in his life.
36:26
Speaker 2: They just weren't. And he and Teresa raised three outstanding,
36:30
Speaker 2: you know, young people, and his son is going to
36:33
Speaker 2: carry on and be the patriarch of that family. I
36:36
Speaker 2: have no doubt. But when you had the conversations with
36:40
Speaker 2: him and the social conversations or even when you'd be texting,
36:44
Speaker 2: it was always about family with him. And I think
36:47
Speaker 2: that the people in another circle. Garrett's one of those
36:50
Speaker 2: ones where how many people think that they're close to him,
36:54
Speaker 2: and then when you start to have conversation you realize
36:57
Speaker 2: how many another group is close, like at the church
37:01
Speaker 2: and those that were involved in his Bible studies and things.
37:04
Speaker 2: One of his first speaking appearances was down the left
37:08
Speaker 2: field on a Sunday afternoon that you know, the late
37:11
Speaker 2: Chuck Obrenski asked him to do because you know, Garrett
37:14
Speaker 2: didn't enjoy doing public appearances, and he addressed him because
37:19
Speaker 2: because of Chuck and because of that, faith was so
37:22
Speaker 2: important to him, you know, reading things. I think there's
37:26
Speaker 2: a lot of things. When you go to a wedding
37:28
Speaker 2: or a funeral, or you lose somebody, there's something to
37:30
Speaker 2: be gained each and every time if you really pay attention.
37:34
Speaker 2: And I think that if if we could incorporate kind
37:37
Speaker 2: of the way he treated people, the way he approached
37:40
Speaker 2: life didn't get too up and down or down. I
37:44
Speaker 2: think if we incorporated our lives to some degree, we'd
37:47
Speaker 2: all be better off.
37:48
Speaker 1: Yeah. I did want to close with one final and
37:50
Speaker 1: a go from Mark Trumbo, who may not have hoisted
37:53
Speaker 1: a World Series trophy over his head or hit the
37:56
Speaker 1: game winning hit in Game seven, But Mark, I understand
37:59
Speaker 1: you did walk a mile in Garrett Anderson's shoes. That
38:03
Speaker 1: tell us about that.
38:06
Speaker 3: You're referring to they hand me down cleats. Yes, you
38:10
Speaker 3: are correct, I don't know. First second year playing Eric Blum,
38:15
Speaker 3: who was the longtime clubhouse manager yeah, minor leagues who
38:19
Speaker 3: I talked to you regularly. I think we wore the
38:22
Speaker 3: same size or I made them work because they were
38:25
Speaker 3: Garrett Anderson's and the Nike Cooper's Town model that was
38:31
Speaker 3: reserved for big leaguers found their way to me. And
38:36
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, just being such a I
38:38
Speaker 3: think that was partly why I was intimidated to go
38:41
Speaker 3: talk to him. It's because I watched him and I
38:44
Speaker 3: was someone who you know, idolizes not the right term,
38:47
Speaker 3: but somewhat like that. Had I grown up somewhere else
38:51
Speaker 3: and it wouldn't have been the same. I think it
38:53
Speaker 3: was because I grew up here. I watched him for
38:56
Speaker 3: so long and then I, you know, yes, I got
38:58
Speaker 3: to it. I don't know if he had warn them
39:00
Speaker 3: or what. When you're in the big league sometimes equipment comes,
39:04
Speaker 3: you know, fairly easily. But nevertheless, he could have done
39:07
Speaker 3: any number of those things with his extra equipment. But
39:10
Speaker 3: I think it was probably an intentional choice to filter
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Speaker 3: it down to the younger players. And you know, I
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Speaker 3: wore them for as long as they lasted, and you know,
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Speaker 3: I just really appreciated it.
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Speaker 1: It was a small thing.
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Speaker 3: But when we were thinking about You know, what can
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Speaker 3: I possibly add today? I did recall that, and you know,
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Speaker 3: just the I think it's just overall an incredibly generous,
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Speaker 3: nice individual that happened to be an excellent ballplayer as well.
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Speaker 2: All right, Tim, you want anything, Mike, I tell you
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Speaker 2: one of the things that we really never talked about.
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Speaker 2: I don't think Garrett understood his responsibility and cute community
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Speaker 2: relations helping people. And periodically I'd get a call down
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Speaker 2: from the clubhouse and he said, I another dozen, So
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Speaker 2: I'd have to say, I have another dozen ready to go.
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Speaker 2: I'd go down and if he'd gotten bad wood and
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Speaker 2: his bats whatever, let me know. He'd sign the dozen bats.
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Speaker 2: I take him up to the office and we give
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Speaker 2: them either community relations or give him away to groups.
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Speaker 2: He did that with all Star balls. He was constantly
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Speaker 2: aware of doing other things. But again, just like the player,
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Speaker 2: he never called attention to his generosity and his big heart.
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Speaker 2: And I think unfortunately, in his passing, people are really
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Speaker 2: are really realizing and reading and seeing about the totality
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Speaker 2: of a complete person to the positive.
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Speaker 1: All right, we'll close the show with that. Tim means,
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Speaker 1: I think one last thing. I think Angels did a
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Speaker 1: very nice job Barney and his team, especially on short
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Speaker 1: notice with the grass on the outfield and everything. I
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Speaker 1: just thought it was important to say that that didn't
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Speaker 1: go unnoticed. It was very touching and you know, probably
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Speaker 1: took a lot of work to get that right.
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Speaker 2: In twenty four hours. And Mike, if I can just say,
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Speaker 2: I will always respect Tim Salmon and Darren Urstad for
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Speaker 2: the interviews they did Friday night that that isn't easy,
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Speaker 2: and you know, Darren just kind of coming into town
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Speaker 2: and fish. But two things to remember about longtime Angel fans.
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Speaker 2: There's two pairs that I think you always associate. If
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Speaker 2: you say Bobby Cannot you say Jim Fragosi and vice versa.
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Speaker 2: You say Tim Salmon, you think Garrett Anderson and vice versa.
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Speaker 2: I don't think Mike will have that person, you know,
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Speaker 2: his career and as long as he's going to play,
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Speaker 2: but those those two or those four will always be,
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Speaker 2: you know, attached, the pairs of it and all four
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Speaker 2: special people.
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Speaker 1: Yea, all right, we will close the show with that.
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Speaker 1: Tim Mead, thank you so much for joining us today
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Speaker 1: under really difficult circumstances. We hope we were in some
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Speaker 1: way able to honor Garrett Anderson, one of the all
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Speaker 1: time angels. Great, great, and an even better person. Thanks
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Speaker 2: M HM.