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Unveiling the Innovations of Ableset 3 with Léo Bernard · Music Explored Podcast

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  I
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  would
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  get
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  up
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  in
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  the
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  morning,
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  work
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  on
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  it
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  until
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  like
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  10pm,
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  11pm
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  and
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  then
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  I
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  would
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  go
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  to
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  bed.
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  From
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  classics
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  to
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  curiosity
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  and
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  where
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  melodies
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  meet
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  meaning
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  welcome.
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  All
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  right,
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  welcome
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  back,
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  everybody.
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  Excited
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  to
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  be
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  back.
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  Today's
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  guest
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  is
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  an
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  amazing
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  guy
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  who's
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  been
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  doing
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  some
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  great
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  work
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  in
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  the
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  music
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  industry
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  and
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  causing
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  noise,
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  making
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  noise
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  and
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  getting
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  people
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  really
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  excited
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  about
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  the
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  product
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  that
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  you're
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  offering.
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  So
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  let's
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  talk
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  about.
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  This
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  is
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  your
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  second
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  time
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  here,
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  so
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  welcome
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  back.
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  Leo
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  Bernard.
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  It's
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  good
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  to
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  have
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  you
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  from
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  Able
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  Set.
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  If
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  you're
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  not
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  familiar
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  with
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  that,
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  you
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  will
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  be
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  by
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  the
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  end
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  of
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  this.
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  But
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  if
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  you
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  know,
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  you
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  definitely
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  know.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  welcome
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  back,
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  man.
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  Thanks.
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  Thanks
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  for
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  having
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  me.
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  Looking
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  forward
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  to
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  catching
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  up.
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  I
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  know
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  it's
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  been
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  a
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  little
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  while
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  since
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  we
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  last
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  chatted
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  and
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  some
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  things
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  have
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  definitely
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  changed
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  recently,
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  so
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  I
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  thought
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  this
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  would
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  be
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  a
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  good
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  time
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  just
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  to
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  catch
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  up
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  and
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  see
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  what
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  you've
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  been
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  up
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  to.
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  You
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  recently
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  dropped
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  Able
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  Set
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  three,
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  so
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  I
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  definitely
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  want
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  to
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  talk
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  through
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  some
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  of
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  the
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  features
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  and
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  some
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  of
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  the
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  ideas
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  behind
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  that
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  and
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  what
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  people
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  have
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  looked
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  to
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  look
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  forward
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  to.
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  But
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  I
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  guess
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  maybe
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  just
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  for
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  anyone
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  who
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  hasn't
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  heard
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  or
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  is
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  not
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  familiar
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  with
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  your
• 1:19
  work,
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  maybe
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  you
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  can
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  just
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  give
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  like
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  an
• 1:20
  overview
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  of
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  what
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  ableset
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  really
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  is
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  and
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  who
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  it's
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  for.
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  We
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  can
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  go
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  from
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  there,
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  sure.
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  Yeah,
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  yeah.
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  Ableset,
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  so
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  at
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  its
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  core
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  is
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  a
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  set
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  list
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  manager
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  for
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  Ableton
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  Live
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  that
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  can
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  be
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  used
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  by
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  bands,
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  by
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  playback
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  engineers,
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  people
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  like
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  that,
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  to
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  more
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  easily
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  manage
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  the
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  songs
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  that
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  you
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  have
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  in
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  your
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  live
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  project
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  and
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  control
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  your
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  playback
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  from
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  any
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  device
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  on
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  stage.
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  So
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  that
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  might
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  be
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  a
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  phone
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  or
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  a
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  tablet
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  or
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  another
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  computer,
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  as
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  long
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  as
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  it's
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  connected
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  to
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  the
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  same
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  network.
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  But
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  that's
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  just
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  the
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  basics
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  and
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  there's
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  lots
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  of
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  features
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  stacked
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  on
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  top
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  of
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  that.
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  So
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  if
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  you
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  need
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  a
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  teleprompter
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  for
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  lyrics,
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  for
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  example,
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  or
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  if
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  you
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  need
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  a
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  performance
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  overview
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  where
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  you
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  can
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  see
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  the
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  current
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  song
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  and
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  some
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  notes
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  and
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  stuff
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  like
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  that,
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  those
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  are
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  all
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  things
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  stacked
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  on
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  top
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  of
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  these
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  basic
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  setlist
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  features.
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  So
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  I
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  guess
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  that
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  was
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  the
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  original
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  idea.
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  What
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  was
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  the
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  first
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  iteration
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  like?
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  Is
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  it
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  pretty
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  much
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  what
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  you
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  just
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  described
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  there?
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  Exactly.
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  So
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  the
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  first
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  iteration,
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  I
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  think
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  that
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  wasn't
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  even
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  available
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  as
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  a.
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  As
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  an
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  app,
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  but
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  that
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  was
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  just
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  like
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  a
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  beta
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  product
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  that
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  I
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  developed
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  for
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  my
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  own
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  band.
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  It
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  just
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  took
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  the
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  locators
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  in
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  the
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  Live
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  set
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  and
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  turned
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  them
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  into
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  a
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  set
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  list
• 2:46
  that
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  you
• 2:46
  could
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  see
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  in
• 2:47
  your
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  browser.
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  So
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  you
• 2:48
  can
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  just,
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  you
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  know,
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  jump
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  to
• 2:50
  songs,
• 2:50
  but
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  you
• 2:50
  couldn't
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  even
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  like
• 2:51
  rearrange
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  songs
• 2:52
  or
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  remove
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  songs
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  from
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  the
• 2:54
  set
• 2:54
  list.
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  It
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  was
• 2:55
  just
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  like
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  a
• 2:55
  one
• 2:55
  to
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  one
• 2:57
  mirror
• 2:58
  of,
• 2:58
  you
• 2:58
  know,
• 2:58
  your
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  projectual
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  type
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  of
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  thing.
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  Yeah,
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  exactly.
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  And,
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  and
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  I
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  mean,
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  Ableton's
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  a
• 3:04
  great
• 3:04
  tool.
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  Like
• 3:05
  live
• 3:05
  is
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  amazing,
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  but
• 3:06
  it's
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  one
• 3:07
  of
• 3:07
  those
• 3:07
  things
• 3:07
  where
• 3:08
  like
• 3:08
  you
• 3:08
  use
• 3:08
  it
• 3:08
  and
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  there's
• 3:09
  like,
• 3:09
  oh
• 3:09
  man,
• 3:09
  if
• 3:10
  only
• 3:10
  you
• 3:10
  could
• 3:10
  do
• 3:10
  this.
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  And
• 3:11
  there's
• 3:11
  probably
• 3:11
  all
• 3:11
  these
• 3:11
  things
• 3:12
  that
• 3:12
  we
• 3:12
  all
• 3:12
  thought
• 3:12
  of.
• 3:13
  Ah,
• 3:13
  you
• 3:13
  can't
• 3:13
  do
• 3:14
  this.
• 3:14
  Like
• 3:14
  even
• 3:14
  with
• 3:15
  just
• 3:15
  ways
• 3:15
  to
• 3:16
  loop.
• 3:17
  I
• 3:17
  guess
• 3:18
  it
• 3:18
  wasn't
• 3:18
  even
• 3:18
  really
• 3:18
  called
• 3:19
  Sections.
• 3:19
  I
• 3:19
  don't
• 3:19
  know.
• 3:19
  Did
• 3:20
  you
• 3:20
  come
• 3:20
  up
• 3:20
  with
• 3:20
  that?
• 3:21
  I
• 3:21
  know
• 3:21
  and
• 3:22
  Abel
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  said
• 3:22
  it's
• 3:22
  sections,
• 3:23
  but
• 3:23
  just
• 3:23
  like
• 3:23
  looping
• 3:24
  what
• 3:24
  would
• 3:25
  be
• 3:25
  a
• 3:25
  section
• 3:25
  or,
• 3:26
  you
• 3:26
  know,
• 3:26
  a
• 3:27
  part
• 3:27
  of
• 3:27
  a
• 3:27
  song,
• 3:28
  even
• 3:28
  just
• 3:29
  things
• 3:29
  like
• 3:29
  that
• 3:29
  you
• 3:29
  had
• 3:30
  to
• 3:30
  go
• 3:30
  around.
• 3:30
  It
• 3:31
  was,
• 3:31
  it
• 3:31
  wasn't
• 3:31
  easy.
• 3:33
  Definitely.
• 3:33
  Yeah,
• 3:34
  yeah,
• 3:34
  you
• 3:34
  came
• 3:34
  along
• 3:35
  and
• 3:35
  you
• 3:35
  just,
• 3:36
  you
• 3:36
  took
• 3:36
  probably
• 3:36
  all
• 3:37
  the
• 3:37
  ideas
• 3:37
  that
• 3:37
  we
• 3:37
  all
• 3:38
  had
• 3:38
  in
• 3:38
  our
• 3:38
  heads
• 3:39
  collectively
• 3:40
  of,
• 3:40
  man,
• 3:40
  I
• 3:40
  wish
• 3:40
  I
• 3:41
  could
• 3:41
  do
• 3:41
  this.
• 3:41
  If
• 3:41
  only
• 3:42
  this
• 3:42
  were
• 3:42
  possible,
• 3:42
  or
• 3:43
  how
• 3:43
  do
• 3:43
  you
• 3:43
  do
• 3:43
  this?
• 3:43
  And
• 3:44
  you
• 3:44
  kind
• 3:44
  of
• 3:44
  just
• 3:44
  started
• 3:44
  to
• 3:45
  make
• 3:45
  it
• 3:45
  as
• 3:45
  an
• 3:46
  evolving
• 3:46
  thing.
• 3:49
  So
• 3:49
  when
• 3:49
  you,
• 3:50
  when
• 3:50
  you
• 3:50
  dropped.
• 3:51
  I
• 3:51
  think
• 3:51
  I
• 3:51
  came
• 3:51
  on
• 3:52
  when
• 3:52
  you
• 3:52
  dropped
• 3:52
  the
• 3:53
  second
• 3:54
  edition,
• 3:55
  that's
• 3:55
  when
• 3:55
  I
• 3:56
  became
• 3:56
  familiar
• 3:57
  and
• 3:57
  there
• 3:57
  was
• 3:57
  a
• 3:57
  lot
• 3:58
  happening
• 3:58
  there
• 3:58
  that
• 3:59
  was
• 3:59
  just
• 3:59
  like,
• 3:59
  oh
• 4:00
  my
• 4:00
  gosh,
• 4:00
  finally
• 4:01
  we
• 4:01
  can
• 4:01
  do
• 4:01
  it.
• 4:02
  You
• 4:02
  know,
• 4:03
  all
• 4:03
  the
• 4:03
  set
• 4:03
  list
• 4:04
  reordering
• 4:04
  and
• 4:05
  just
• 4:05
  the
• 4:05
  things
• 4:06
  that.
• 4:06
  It
• 4:06
  seems
• 4:06
  so
• 4:07
  simple
• 4:07
  now,
• 4:07
  but
• 4:07
  we're
• 4:08
  just
• 4:08
  game
• 4:08
  changers.
• 4:09
  So
• 4:10
  I'm
• 4:10
  curious,
• 4:10
  I
• 4:11
  know
• 4:11
  I'm
• 4:11
  jumping
• 4:11
  ahead
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  little
• 4:12
  bit,
• 4:12
  but
• 4:12
  I'm
• 4:12
  just
• 4:13
  really
• 4:13
  curious
• 4:14
  for
• 4:14
  you
• 4:14
  to
• 4:14
  share
• 4:14
  with
• 4:14
  us
• 4:15
  some
• 4:15
  of
• 4:15
  the
• 4:15
  things
• 4:16
  that
• 4:16
  changed
• 4:16
  from
• 4:18
  version
• 4:18
  2
• 4:18
  to
• 4:19
  now
• 4:19
  3.
• 4:20
  Yeah.
• 4:21
  So
• 4:22
  Eaglesat
• 4:23
  3
• 4:23
  comes
• 4:23
  with
• 4:24
  lots
• 4:24
  of
• 4:24
  new
• 4:25
  features
• 4:25
  and
• 4:25
  improvements
• 4:26
  and
• 4:27
  lots
• 4:27
  of
• 4:27
  little
• 4:28
  things,
• 4:28
  but
• 4:28
  I
• 4:29
  think
• 4:29
  the
• 4:30
  two
• 4:30
  biggest
• 4:31
  changes
• 4:32
  are
• 4:32
  the
• 4:33
  new
• 4:33
  canvas
• 4:33
  and
• 4:33
  the
• 4:33
  new
• 4:34
  mixer.
• 4:35
  So
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  mixer
• 4:36
  is
• 4:36
  basically
• 4:37
  a
• 4:37
  feature
• 4:37
  that
• 4:37
  allows.
• 4:38
  Allows
• 4:38
  you
• 4:38
  to
• 4:39
  specify
• 4:40
  groups
• 4:40
  of
• 4:40
  tracks.
• 4:41
  So
• 4:41
  that
• 4:41
  could
• 4:41
  be
• 4:43
  a
• 4:43
  click
• 4:44
  track
• 4:44
  or
• 4:44
  the
• 4:46
  drum
• 4:46
  stems
• 4:46
  or
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  guitar
• 4:47
  stems.
• 4:48
  And
• 4:48
  then
• 4:49
  it
• 4:49
  offers
• 4:49
  you
• 4:50
  a
• 4:50
  user
• 4:50
  interface
• 4:51
  that
• 4:51
  you
• 4:51
  can
• 4:51
  use
• 4:51
  to
• 4:52
  change
• 4:52
  the
• 4:52
  volume
• 4:53
  or
• 4:53
  mute
• 4:53
  some
• 4:54
  of
• 4:54
  them
• 4:54
  or
• 4:54
  solo
• 4:55
  them.
• 4:55
  So
• 4:56
  let's
• 4:56
  say
• 4:57
  you
• 4:57
  have
• 4:58
  a
• 4:58
  bass
• 4:59
  stems
• 4:59
  track
• 5:00
  for
• 5:00
  when
• 5:00
  the
• 5:01
  bass
• 5:01
  player
• 5:01
  can't
• 5:01
  make
• 5:02
  it.
• 5:02
  And
• 5:03
  if
• 5:04
  that's
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  case,
• 5:04
  you
• 5:04
  just
• 5:04
  unmute
• 5:05
  it,
• 5:05
  enable
• 5:06
  set,
• 5:06
  and
• 5:07
  then
• 5:07
  you're
• 5:08
  good
• 5:08
  to
• 5:08
  go.
• 5:08
  Instead
• 5:08
  of
• 5:09
  having
• 5:09
  to
• 5:10
  go
• 5:10
  into
• 5:10
  your
• 5:11
  Ableton
• 5:11
  project
• 5:12
  file
• 5:12
  and
• 5:12
  unmuting
• 5:13
  the
• 5:13
  right
• 5:13
  tracks
• 5:14
  and
• 5:14
  stuff
• 5:15
  like
• 5:15
  that,
• 5:16
  then
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  Canvas
• 5:17
  is,
• 5:18
  I
• 5:19
  think,
• 5:19
  the
• 5:20
  most
• 5:20
  advanced
• 5:21
  feature
• 5:21
  I've
• 5:21
  built
• 5:22
  yet
• 5:23
  because
• 5:23
  it
• 5:23
  allows
• 5:23
  you
• 5:24
  to
• 5:24
  build
• 5:24
  your
• 5:25
  own
• 5:25
  completely
• 5:26
  Custom
• 5:27
  user
• 5:27
  interfaces.
• 5:28
  So
• 5:29
  that
• 5:29
  means
• 5:30
  you
• 5:30
  can
• 5:31
  add
• 5:31
  buttons,
• 5:32
  you
• 5:32
  can
• 5:32
  write
• 5:32
  your
• 5:32
  own
• 5:33
  scripts,
• 5:33
  you
• 5:33
  can
• 5:33
  send
• 5:34
  MIDI
• 5:34
  to
• 5:35
  other
• 5:35
  devices,
• 5:35
  you
• 5:36
  can
• 5:36
  send
• 5:36
  OSC
• 5:37
  to
• 5:37
  other
• 5:37
  devices.
• 5:38
  So
• 5:38
  you
• 5:38
  can
• 5:39
  control,
• 5:39
  control
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  entire
• 5:39
  show
• 5:40
  if
• 5:40
  you
• 5:40
  want
• 5:40
  to
• 5:41
  from
• 5:41
  your
• 5:41
  tablet.
• 5:42
  And
• 5:46
  that's.
• 5:47
  I
• 5:47
  think
• 5:48
  that's
• 5:48
  the
• 5:48
  two
• 5:49
  biggest
• 5:49
  features
• 5:49
  and
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  ones
• 5:50
  that
• 5:50
  I
• 5:51
  promoted
• 5:52
  the
• 5:52
  most.
• 5:53
  But
• 5:53
  there's
• 5:54
  lots
• 5:54
  of
• 5:54
  smaller
• 5:54
  things
• 5:55
  as
• 5:55
  well.
• 5:55
  Like
• 5:55
  the
• 5:56
  set
• 5:56
  list
• 5:56
  editor
• 5:57
  has
• 5:57
  some
• 5:57
  improvements.
• 5:58
  I
• 5:59
  think
• 6:00
  it's
• 6:01
  just
• 6:01
  a
• 6:01
  little
• 6:01
  feature,
• 6:02
  but
• 6:02
  it's
• 6:02
  super
• 6:02
  useful,
• 6:03
  is
• 6:03
  that
• 6:04
  you
• 6:04
  can
• 6:04
  just
• 6:04
  copy
• 6:04
  the
• 6:05
  set
• 6:05
  list
• 6:05
  as
• 6:05
  plain
• 6:06
  text
• 6:06
  into
• 6:06
  your
• 6:07
  clipboard
• 6:07
  so
• 6:07
  you
• 6:08
  can
• 6:08
  send
• 6:08
  it
• 6:08
  to
• 6:08
  your
• 6:09
  bandmates
• 6:09
  or
• 6:10
  other
• 6:11
  people.
• 6:11
  And
• 6:11
  the
• 6:12
  same
• 6:12
  works
• 6:12
  the
• 6:12
  other
• 6:12
  way
• 6:12
  around
• 6:13
  too.
• 6:13
  So
• 6:13
  if
• 6:13
  someone
• 6:14
  sends
• 6:14
  you
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  list
• 6:14
  of
• 6:15
  songs,
• 6:15
  you
• 6:15
  can
• 6:15
  just
• 6:15
  copy
• 6:16
  it
• 6:16
  and
• 6:16
  paste
• 6:16
  it
• 6:17
  into
• 6:17
  Able
• 6:17
  set
• 6:17
  and
• 6:18
  it
• 6:18
  will,
• 6:18
  you
• 6:18
  know,
• 6:19
  find
• 6:19
  the
• 6:19
  right
• 6:20
  songs
• 6:20
  and
• 6:20
  put
• 6:21
  them
• 6:21
  in
• 6:21
  the
• 6:21
  right
• 6:21
  order.
• 6:22
  Just
• 6:22
  based
• 6:22
  on
• 6:22
  the
• 6:22
  text
• 6:22
  that
• 6:23
  you
• 6:23
  copy
• 6:23
  in.
• 6:24
  Yeah.
• 6:24
  Yes.
• 6:24
  Just
• 6:25
  based
• 6:25
  on
• 6:25
  the
• 6:25
  text.
• 6:26
  That's.
• 6:26
  That's
• 6:26
  cool.
• 6:27
  See
• 6:27
  there's
• 6:28
  all
• 6:28
  these
• 6:28
  time
• 6:28
  saving
• 6:29
  features
• 6:30
  that's
• 6:30
  just.
• 6:30
  That's
• 6:30
  cool.
• 6:31
  That's
• 6:31
  cool.
• 6:32
  So
• 6:32
  I
• 6:32
  mean,
• 6:33
  you
• 6:33
  named
• 6:33
  a
• 6:33
  handful
• 6:34
  there
• 6:34
  that
• 6:34
  are
• 6:34
  just
• 6:35
  like
• 6:36
  now
• 6:36
  I
• 6:36
  feel
• 6:36
  like
• 6:37
  you
• 6:37
  probably
• 6:38
  on
• 6:39
  the
• 6:39
  first
• 6:39
  couple
• 6:39
  iterations
• 6:40
  and
• 6:40
  updates,
• 6:40
  you
• 6:41
  probably
• 6:41
  like
• 6:41
  checked
• 6:42
  all
• 6:42
  the,
• 6:42
  a
• 6:42
  lot
• 6:42
  of
• 6:42
  the
• 6:42
  boxes.
• 6:43
  Boxes
• 6:43
  on
• 6:43
  things
• 6:43
  that
• 6:44
  people
• 6:45
  were
• 6:45
  definitely
• 6:46
  thinking
• 6:46
  about,
• 6:47
  if
• 6:47
  only
• 6:47
  like
• 6:47
  I
• 6:48
  mentioned
• 6:48
  before.
• 6:49
  But
• 6:49
  now
• 6:49
  it
• 6:49
  sounds
• 6:49
  like
• 6:50
  you've
• 6:50
  gone
• 6:50
  past
• 6:51
  that
• 6:51
  and
• 6:51
  you're
• 6:51
  like,
• 6:53
  there's
• 6:53
  things
• 6:54
  that
• 6:54
  maybe
• 6:54
  nobody
• 6:54
  was
• 6:54
  really
• 6:55
  even
• 6:55
  thinking
• 6:55
  about
• 6:55
  on
• 6:56
  that
• 6:56
  level.
• 6:56
  We
• 6:57
  were
• 6:57
  pretty
• 6:57
  happy,
• 6:57
  I
• 6:57
  think,
• 6:58
  with
• 6:58
  what
• 6:58
  we
• 6:58
  were
• 6:58
  able
• 6:59
  to
• 6:59
  do
• 6:59
  last
• 7:00
  time
• 7:00
  around.
• 7:01
  So
• 7:02
  I'm
• 7:02
  wondering
• 7:03
  what
• 7:03
  was
• 7:03
  your
• 7:03
  development
• 7:04
  process
• 7:04
  like?
• 7:06
  Do
• 7:06
  you
• 7:06
  just
• 7:07
  constantly
• 7:08
  just
• 7:08
  jot
• 7:08
  down
• 7:08
  notes
• 7:09
  of
• 7:09
  like,
• 7:09
  maybe
• 7:10
  this
• 7:10
  is
• 7:10
  an
• 7:10
  idea.
• 7:11
  How
• 7:11
  does
• 7:11
  it
• 7:11
  work
• 7:11
  for
• 7:12
  you?
• 7:12
  And
• 7:12
  how
• 7:12
  long
• 7:12
  did
• 7:13
  you
• 7:13
  have
• 7:14
  these
• 7:14
  concepts
• 7:15
  kind
• 7:15
  of
• 7:15
  in
• 7:15
  your
• 7:15
  mind
• 7:16
  and
• 7:16
  under
• 7:16
  development
• 7:17
  before
• 7:17
  you
• 7:17
  started
• 7:18
  to.
• 7:19
  Before
• 7:19
  you
• 7:19
  put
• 7:19
  it
• 7:19
  out?
• 7:19
  I
• 7:20
  guess
• 7:21
  so
• 7:22
  a
• 7:22
  lot
• 7:22
  of
• 7:22
  the
• 7:22
  ideas
• 7:23
  actually
• 7:23
  come
• 7:24
  from
• 7:25
  customers
• 7:25
  and
• 7:26
  users.
• 7:27
  So
• 7:28
  there's
• 7:28
  the
• 7:28
  ableset
• 7:29
  forum,
• 7:29
  which
• 7:29
  has
• 7:29
  a
• 7:30
  feature
• 7:30
  request
• 7:31
  category.
• 7:32
  So
• 7:32
  if
• 7:32
  you
• 7:33
  go
• 7:33
  in
• 7:33
  there,
• 7:33
  there's
• 7:34
  lots
• 7:34
  of
• 7:34
  ideas
• 7:34
  that
• 7:35
  people
• 7:35
  have.
• 7:35
  And
• 7:36
  I
• 7:36
  think
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  canvas
• 7:38
  came
• 7:39
  from
• 7:39
  one
• 7:39
  of
• 7:39
  those
• 7:39
  ideas
• 7:40
  or
• 7:41
  just
• 7:41
  a
• 7:42
  kind
• 7:42
  of
• 7:42
  combination
• 7:43
  of
• 7:43
  different
• 7:43
  ideas
• 7:44
  that
• 7:44
  made
• 7:44
  me
• 7:45
  think,
• 7:45
  you
• 7:45
  know,
• 7:45
  there's
• 7:46
  so
• 7:47
  different
• 7:48
  ways
• 7:48
  to
• 7:49
  use
• 7:50
  a
• 7:50
  setist
• 7:50
  management
• 7:51
  tool
• 7:52
  life
• 7:53
  that,
• 7:54
  you
• 7:54
  know,
• 7:54
  there's
• 7:54
  not
• 7:55
  like
• 7:56
  it's
• 7:56
  not
• 7:56
  possible
• 7:56
  to
• 7:57
  have
• 7:57
  one
• 7:57
  user
• 7:58
  interface
• 7:58
  that
• 7:58
  fits
• 7:58
  every
• 8:00
  need.
• 8:01
  So
• 8:01
  I
• 8:01
  thought,
• 8:01
  you
• 8:02
  know,
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  best
• 8:03
  way
• 8:03
  to
• 8:04
  make
• 8:04
  it
• 8:04
  work
• 8:04
  for
• 8:05
  everyone
• 8:05
  is
• 8:05
  to
• 8:05
  make
• 8:05
  it
• 8:06
  as
• 8:06
  customizable
• 8:06
  as
• 8:07
  possible,
• 8:07
  which
• 8:07
  is
• 8:08
  how
• 8:08
  the
• 8:08
  canvas
• 8:09
  came
• 8:09
  to
• 8:09
  Be.
• 8:10
  And
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  think
• 8:11
  this
• 8:11
  feature
• 8:11
  took
• 8:12
  a
• 8:12
  bit
• 8:12
  over
• 8:13
  a
• 8:13
  year
• 8:13
  to
• 8:14
  really,
• 8:14
  like,
• 8:15
  develop
• 8:15
  and.
• 8:16
  Wow.
• 8:17
  Feature
• 8:18
  on
• 8:18
  its
• 8:18
  own.
• 8:19
  Yeah,
• 8:19
  yeah,
• 8:19
  yeah.
• 8:20
  That's
• 8:20
  massive.
• 8:20
  That's
• 8:21
  massive.
• 8:21
  Okay.
• 8:23
  Yeah,
• 8:24
  that's
• 8:24
  cool.
• 8:24
  And
• 8:25
  I
• 8:25
  mean,
• 8:25
  so
• 8:25
  you've
• 8:26
  really
• 8:26
  just
• 8:26
  developed
• 8:26
  and
• 8:27
  built
• 8:27
  a
• 8:27
  community
• 8:28
  of
• 8:28
  users
• 8:29
  also
• 8:29
  that,
• 8:29
  like,
• 8:31
  must
• 8:31
  have.
• 8:31
  We
• 8:32
  have
• 8:32
  a
• 8:32
  lot
• 8:32
  of
• 8:32
  faith
• 8:32
  in
• 8:33
  you
• 8:33
  and
• 8:33
  your
• 8:33
  abilities
• 8:34
  to
• 8:34
  execute
• 8:35
  on
• 8:35
  these
• 8:35
  ideas.
• 8:35
  It
• 8:36
  was
• 8:36
  not
• 8:36
  like,
• 8:36
  people
• 8:36
  are
• 8:36
  like,
• 8:36
  you
• 8:37
  know,
• 8:37
  I'm
• 8:37
  gonna
• 8:37
  go
• 8:37
  do
• 8:37
  it
• 8:37
  myself.
• 8:38
  Not
• 8:38
  a
• 8:38
  chance.
• 8:40
  So
• 8:40
  you're
• 8:40
  like
• 8:40
  the
• 8:41
  guy
• 8:41
  when
• 8:41
  it
• 8:41
  comes
• 8:41
  to
• 8:42
  this.
• 8:42
  That's
• 8:42
  neat.
• 8:43
  And
• 8:43
  I
• 8:43
  imagine
• 8:44
  then
• 8:44
  you
• 8:44
  get
• 8:44
  a
• 8:44
  lot
• 8:45
  of
• 8:45
  ideas.
• 8:45
  I
• 8:46
  mean,
• 8:46
  I
• 8:46
  don't
• 8:46
  want
• 8:46
  you
• 8:46
  to
• 8:46
  name
• 8:47
  any
• 8:47
  because
• 8:47
  you.
• 8:48
  I
• 8:48
  mean,
• 8:48
  you
• 8:48
  can,
• 8:49
  but
• 8:49
  I
• 8:49
  imagine
• 8:49
  that
• 8:50
  there's
• 8:50
  some
• 8:50
  that
• 8:50
  you
• 8:50
  had
• 8:50
  to
• 8:51
  cut
• 8:51
  too.
• 8:51
  Like,
• 8:51
  what's
• 8:51
  your
• 8:52
  process?
• 8:52
  Deciding
• 8:53
  between
• 8:53
  what
• 8:54
  you
• 8:54
  keep,
• 8:54
  what
• 8:54
  you're
• 8:55
  going
• 8:55
  to
• 8:55
  run
• 8:55
  with?
• 8:56
  Maybe
• 8:56
  you
• 8:56
  try
• 8:57
  some
• 8:57
  and
• 8:57
  decide
• 8:57
  it's
• 8:58
  not
• 8:58
  going
• 8:58
  to
• 8:58
  work.
• 8:58
  Like,
• 8:58
  how
• 8:59
  does
• 8:59
  it.
• 8:59
  What's
• 9:00
  the
• 9:00
  whole
• 9:00
  process
• 9:00
  there?
• 9:01
  It's
• 9:02
  kind
• 9:02
  of
• 9:02
  a
• 9:02
  balance
• 9:02
  between
• 9:04
  how
• 9:04
  many
• 9:04
  people
• 9:05
  does
• 9:05
  this
• 9:07
  help
• 9:08
  and
• 9:08
  how
• 9:08
  difficult
• 9:09
  is
• 9:09
  it
• 9:09
  to
• 9:09
  implement.
• 9:11
  There
• 9:11
  are
• 9:11
  some
• 9:11
  ideas
• 9:12
  that
• 9:12
  are
• 9:12
  great,
• 9:13
  but
• 9:13
  they
• 9:14
  would
• 9:14
  only
• 9:14
  help
• 9:14
  like
• 9:15
  a
• 9:15
  small
• 9:16
  percentage
• 9:16
  of
• 9:16
  users
• 9:17
  and
• 9:17
  they
• 9:17
  would
• 9:17
  be
• 9:17
  a
• 9:17
  lot
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  work
• 9:18
  to
• 9:18
  get
• 9:19
  right.
• 9:19
  And
• 9:20
  you
• 9:20
  know
• 9:20
  that
• 9:20
  that
• 9:20
  would
• 9:21
  be
• 9:21
  like
• 9:21
  catering
• 9:21
  to
• 9:22
  one
• 9:22
  specific
• 9:23
  use
• 9:23
  case.
• 9:24
  Those.
• 9:24
  I
• 9:25
  usually,
• 9:26
  you
• 9:26
  know,
• 9:26
  I
• 9:26
  try
• 9:27
  to
• 9:27
  find
• 9:27
  workarounds,
• 9:28
  but
• 9:28
  I
• 9:28
  usually
• 9:29
  don't
• 9:29
  implement
• 9:30
  them.
• 9:32
  And
• 9:33
  the
• 9:33
  ones
• 9:33
  that
• 9:33
  are
• 9:34
  like,
• 9:35
  immediately,
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  think,
• 9:36
  you
• 9:37
  know,
• 9:37
  this
• 9:37
  could
• 9:37
  be
• 9:37
  great,
• 9:37
  is.
• 9:39
  Yeah,
• 9:39
  just
• 9:40
  ideas
• 9:41
  that
• 9:41
  benefit
• 9:41
  most
• 9:42
  of
• 9:42
  the
• 9:42
  users.
• 9:43
  Okay.
• 9:44
  And,
• 9:45
  you
• 9:45
  know,
• 9:45
  there's
• 9:46
  some
• 9:46
  in
• 9:46
  between
• 9:46
  stuff
• 9:47
  where,
• 9:47
  like,
• 9:48
  some
• 9:48
  features,
• 9:49
  they
• 9:49
  might
• 9:50
  not
• 9:50
  benefit
• 9:50
  a
• 9:50
  lot
• 9:50
  of
• 9:51
  people,
• 9:51
  but
• 9:51
  it's
• 9:51
  like
• 9:52
  an
• 9:53
  hour
• 9:53
  of
• 9:53
  work
• 9:54
  to
• 9:54
  add
• 9:55
  them.
• 9:55
  And
• 9:56
  so
• 9:59
  it's
• 9:59
  not
• 9:59
  too
• 9:59
  difficult
• 10:00
  and
• 10:00
  it
• 10:00
  doesn't
• 10:01
  make
• 10:01
  sense
• 10:01
  to
• 10:02
  just
• 10:02
  go
• 10:02
  ahead
• 10:02
  and
• 10:02
  get
• 10:03
  it
• 10:03
  done.
• 10:03
  Exactly.
• 10:04
  And
• 10:05
  I
• 10:05
  think
• 10:05
  one
• 10:05
  thing
• 10:06
  I
• 10:06
  always
• 10:07
  consider
• 10:07
  as
• 10:07
  well
• 10:08
  is
• 10:09
  how
• 10:09
  much
• 10:09
  does
• 10:09
  this
• 10:10
  make
• 10:10
  ableset
• 10:11
  more
• 10:11
  difficult
• 10:12
  for
• 10:12
  new
• 10:13
  users?
• 10:14
  You
• 10:14
  can
• 10:15
  stack
• 10:15
  feature
• 10:15
  on
• 10:15
  feature
• 10:16
  on
• 10:16
  feature
• 10:16
  on
• 10:16
  feature,
• 10:17
  but
• 10:17
  in
• 10:17
  the
• 10:18
  end,
• 10:19
  if
• 10:20
  as
• 10:20
  a
• 10:20
  new
• 10:20
  user
• 10:21
  you
• 10:21
  open
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  app
• 10:21
  and
• 10:21
  you're
• 10:22
  bombarded
• 10:22
  with
• 10:23
  things
• 10:24
  that
• 10:24
  you
• 10:24
  can
• 10:24
  do,
• 10:25
  it
• 10:25
  might
• 10:26
  be
• 10:27
  difficult
• 10:27
  to
• 10:28
  get
• 10:28
  started.
• 10:28
  And
• 10:29
  that's
• 10:29
  what
• 10:29
  I
• 10:29
  don't
• 10:30
  want.
• 10:31
  I
• 10:31
  want
• 10:31
  new
• 10:31
  users
• 10:32
  to
• 10:32
  feel
• 10:32
  like
• 10:34
  it's
• 10:34
  just
• 10:34
  a
• 10:35
  set
• 10:35
  list,
• 10:36
  it's
• 10:37
  easy
• 10:37
  to
• 10:37
  get
• 10:37
  started
• 10:38
  and
• 10:38
  then
• 10:38
  they
• 10:38
  can
• 10:39
  dive
• 10:39
  deeper
• 10:39
  into
• 10:40
  the
• 10:40
  more
• 10:40
  advanced
• 10:41
  features.
• 10:42
  That
• 10:42
  makes
• 10:42
  sense.
• 10:42
  Yeah,
• 10:43
  because
• 10:43
  it
• 10:43
  could
• 10:43
  be
• 10:43
  overwhelming.
• 10:44
  I
• 10:44
  mean,
• 10:45
  you're
• 10:45
  combining
• 10:45
  two
• 10:46
  great
• 10:46
  tools
• 10:47
  and
• 10:47
  there's
• 10:48
  a
• 10:48
  lot
• 10:48
  of
• 10:48
  features
• 10:48
  between
• 10:49
  the
• 10:49
  two
• 10:49
  as
• 10:50
  it
• 10:50
  is.
• 10:51
  I
• 10:51
  could
• 10:51
  see
• 10:51
  that
• 10:52
  coming
• 10:52
  in
• 10:52
  and
• 10:52
  Kind
• 10:52
  of
• 10:52
  just
• 10:53
  freezing
• 10:53
  and
• 10:53
  not
• 10:54
  really
• 10:54
  being
• 10:54
  able
• 10:54
  to
• 10:55
  make
• 10:55
  good
• 10:56
  use
• 10:56
  and
• 10:56
  learn
• 10:57
  quickly.
• 10:57
  So
• 10:57
  that's
• 10:58
  important
• 10:58
  too.
• 11:00
  But
• 11:00
  I
• 11:01
  mean,
• 11:01
  just
• 11:01
  based
• 11:01
  on
• 11:01
  what
• 11:02
  you
• 11:02
  said,
• 11:02
  because
• 11:02
  you
• 11:02
  said
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  canvas
• 11:03
  took
• 11:03
  a
• 11:03
  year
• 11:04
  to
• 11:05
  implement
• 11:05
  fully,
• 11:06
  to
• 11:06
  build
• 11:06
  design,
• 11:08
  so
• 11:08
  that
• 11:09
  must
• 11:09
  have.
• 11:10
  Was
• 11:10
  it
• 11:10
  because
• 11:11
  it
• 11:11
  came
• 11:11
  from,
• 11:11
  like,
• 11:12
  it
• 11:12
  was
• 11:14
  a
• 11:14
  common
• 11:14
  request
• 11:15
  that
• 11:15
  you
• 11:15
  were
• 11:15
  seeing,
• 11:15
  like,
• 11:16
  what
• 11:16
  made
• 11:17
  you
• 11:17
  decide
• 11:17
  to
• 11:18
  invest
• 11:18
  so
• 11:18
  much
• 11:18
  time
• 11:19
  into
• 11:19
  that
• 11:19
  specific
• 11:20
  feature,
• 11:20
  or
• 11:20
  did
• 11:20
  you
• 11:21
  just
• 11:21
  believe
• 11:21
  in
• 11:21
  it
• 11:21
  yourself?
• 11:23
  I
• 11:23
  think
• 11:24
  it's.
• 11:24
  Yeah,
• 11:24
  it's
• 11:24
  kind
• 11:24
  of
• 11:25
  a
• 11:25
  bit
• 11:25
  of
• 11:25
  both.
• 11:26
  It's
• 11:27
  something
• 11:28
  where
• 11:28
  I
• 11:28
  thought
• 11:29
  this
• 11:29
  will
• 11:29
  basically
• 11:30
  benefit
• 11:30
  everyone
• 11:31
  because
• 11:32
  everyone
• 11:33
  can
• 11:33
  build
• 11:33
  their
• 11:34
  own
• 11:34
  user
• 11:35
  interfaces
• 11:35
  and
• 11:36
  everyone
• 11:37
  can
• 11:37
  cater
• 11:38
  it
• 11:38
  exactly.
• 11:39
  To
• 11:39
  their
• 11:39
  use
• 11:39
  case.
• 11:41
  But
• 11:42
  also
• 11:42
  I
• 11:42
  really
• 11:42
  like
• 11:43
  the
• 11:43
  feature
• 11:43
  myself.
• 11:45
  That's
• 11:45
  also
• 11:45
  a
• 11:45
  factor.
• 11:46
  Yeah,
• 11:47
  there's
• 11:47
  a
• 11:47
  personal
• 11:48
  connection
• 11:48
  in
• 11:48
  there
• 11:48
  as
• 11:49
  well.
• 11:49
  Makes
• 11:50
  sense.
• 11:51
  And
• 11:51
  then
• 11:51
  we're
• 11:51
  talking
• 11:51
  about
• 11:52
  building
• 11:52
  and
• 11:52
  growing
• 11:52
  and
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  mean,
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  kind
• 11:54
  of
• 11:54
  just
• 11:54
  skipped
• 11:54
  over,
• 11:55
  I
• 11:55
  mentioned
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  community,
• 11:56
  which
• 11:56
  is,
• 11:56
  I'm
• 11:57
  sure
• 11:57
  has
• 11:57
  grown
• 11:58
  significantly
• 11:58
  over
• 11:58
  the
• 11:59
  last
• 11:59
  few
• 11:59
  years,
• 12:00
  but
• 12:01
  can
• 12:01
  you
• 12:01
  talk
• 12:01
  to
• 12:02
  us
• 12:02
  about
• 12:02
  that?
• 12:02
  Like,
• 12:02
  how
• 12:02
  much
• 12:03
  has
• 12:03
  your
• 12:03
  community
• 12:04
  grown
• 12:04
  and
• 12:05
  what
• 12:05
  impact
• 12:05
  has
• 12:06
  it
• 12:06
  had
• 12:06
  on
• 12:07
  your
• 12:07
  work
• 12:07
  and
• 12:07
  maybe
• 12:08
  motivating
• 12:08
  you
• 12:09
  too?
• 12:09
  What
• 12:09
  does
• 12:09
  it
• 12:10
  look
• 12:10
  like
• 12:10
  now?
• 12:11
  I
• 12:12
  don't
• 12:12
  think
• 12:12
  I
• 12:12
  have
• 12:12
  any
• 12:13
  numbers
• 12:13
  in
• 12:13
  mind,
• 12:14
  so
• 12:15
  I
• 12:15
  can't
• 12:16
  tell
• 12:16
  you.
• 12:17
  It
• 12:17
  has
• 12:17
  grown
• 12:17
  from
• 12:17
  this
• 12:18
  number
• 12:18
  of
• 12:18
  users
• 12:19
  to
• 12:19
  this
• 12:19
  number
• 12:19
  of
• 12:19
  users,
• 12:20
  but
• 12:22
  there
• 12:22
  have
• 12:22
  definitely
• 12:22
  been
• 12:23
  lots
• 12:23
  of
• 12:23
  new
• 12:24
  users
• 12:24
  that
• 12:24
  joined
• 12:24
  the
• 12:25
  forum
• 12:25
  that
• 12:26
  reached
• 12:26
  out
• 12:26
  via
• 12:27
  email.
• 12:28
  And
• 12:29
  for
• 12:29
  me,
• 12:29
  it's
• 12:30
  just
• 12:30
  great
• 12:30
  to
• 12:30
  see
• 12:31
  people
• 12:32
  are
• 12:32
  using
• 12:32
  the
• 12:33
  app
• 12:33
  and
• 12:34
  they
• 12:34
  have
• 12:37
  different
• 12:37
  kinds
• 12:37
  of
• 12:37
  feedback
• 12:38
  and
• 12:39
  maybe
• 12:39
  they're
• 12:39
  happy
• 12:39
  with
• 12:40
  it,
• 12:40
  maybe
• 12:40
  they
• 12:40
  have
• 12:41
  some
• 12:41
  ideas
• 12:41
  or
• 12:42
  things
• 12:42
  that
• 12:42
  can
• 12:43
  be
• 12:43
  improved
• 12:45
  and
• 12:46
  this
• 12:47
  is
• 12:47
  what
• 12:47
  motivates
• 12:48
  me
• 12:48
  to
• 12:48
  keep
• 12:48
  going,
• 12:48
  basically.
• 12:49
  I
• 12:50
  think
• 12:50
  if
• 12:50
  I
• 12:50
  didn't
• 12:50
  have
• 12:50
  that,
• 12:51
  if
• 12:51
  I
• 12:51
  just
• 12:52
  sold
• 12:52
  my
• 12:53
  licenses
• 12:53
  and
• 12:54
  didn't
• 12:54
  have
• 12:54
  any
• 12:55
  contact
• 12:55
  with
• 12:55
  my
• 12:55
  customers,
• 12:56
  it
• 12:56
  would
• 12:56
  be
• 12:56
  a
• 12:57
  very
• 12:57
  lonely
• 12:57
  job.
• 12:59
  That's
• 12:59
  true.
• 13:00
  That
• 13:00
  makes
• 13:00
  sense.
• 13:00
  That
• 13:00
  makes
• 13:01
  sense.
• 13:01
  There's
• 13:01
  a
• 13:01
  lot
• 13:01
  of
• 13:01
  feedback
• 13:02
  and
• 13:02
  interaction,
• 13:03
  which
• 13:03
  is.
• 13:04
  I
• 13:04
  mean,
• 13:04
  you're
• 13:05
  a
• 13:05
  musician
• 13:05
  and
• 13:05
  creative
• 13:06
  yourself,
• 13:06
  so
• 13:07
  feedback
• 13:07
  is
• 13:07
  important
• 13:07
  to
• 13:08
  us.
• 13:08
  Definitely.
• 13:10
  Crowd
• 13:10
  reactions,
• 13:11
  response
• 13:12
  from,
• 13:13
  say,
• 13:13
  your
• 13:13
  bandmates
• 13:14
  or
• 13:15
  management
• 13:15
  or
• 13:15
  whoever
• 13:16
  it
• 13:16
  is,
• 13:16
  that
• 13:16
  stuff
• 13:17
  helps.
• 13:17
  It
• 13:17
  pushes
• 13:17
  you
• 13:18
  along.
• 13:18
  Sometimes
• 13:18
  it's,
• 13:19
  you
• 13:19
  know,
• 13:19
  could
• 13:19
  you
• 13:20
  do
• 13:20
  this?
• 13:20
  You
• 13:20
  can
• 13:20
  do
• 13:20
  this
• 13:20
  better.
• 13:21
  Sometimes
• 13:21
  it's,
• 13:22
  this
• 13:22
  is
• 13:22
  great,
• 13:22
  but
• 13:23
  there's
• 13:23
  a
• 13:23
  little,
• 13:23
  you
• 13:23
  know,
• 13:24
  so
• 13:24
  that's
• 13:24
  important.
• 13:25
  It
• 13:25
  is
• 13:26
  a
• 13:26
  motivator.
• 13:28
  And
• 13:28
  I
• 13:28
  imagine
• 13:29
  that
• 13:29
  there
• 13:29
  are
• 13:30
  probably
• 13:30
  a
• 13:30
  lot
• 13:31
  more
• 13:31
  like
• 13:32
  your
• 13:32
  community
• 13:32
  is
• 13:33
  probably
• 13:33
  a
• 13:33
  lot
• 13:33
  bigger
• 13:34
  than
• 13:35
  the
• 13:36
  amount
• 13:36
  of
• 13:36
  people
• 13:36
  who
• 13:36
  are
• 13:37
  active
• 13:37
  in
• 13:37
  forums
• 13:38
  and
• 13:38
  things
• 13:38
  like
• 13:38
  that.
• 13:38
  Right.
• 13:39
  Some
• 13:39
  of
• 13:39
  us.
• 13:39
  I'm
• 13:40
  speaking
• 13:40
  for
• 13:40
  myself
• 13:41
  now.
• 13:41
  Because
• 13:42
  I'm
• 13:42
  not
• 13:42
  in
• 13:42
  the
• 13:42
  forums,
• 13:43
  but
• 13:43
  I'm,
• 13:43
  you
• 13:43
  know,
• 13:43
  I'm
• 13:44
  watching,
• 13:44
  I'm
• 13:44
  using
• 13:44
  the
• 13:45
  products
• 13:45
  and
• 13:46
  I'm
• 13:46
  cheering
• 13:46
  you
• 13:47
  on.
• 13:47
  But
• 13:47
  also
• 13:47
  super
• 13:48
  happy,
• 13:48
  happy
• 13:48
  when
• 13:48
  things
• 13:49
  release.
• 13:49
  And
• 13:50
  I'm
• 13:51
  always
• 13:51
  blown
• 13:51
  away
• 13:51
  by
• 13:52
  some
• 13:52
  of
• 13:52
  the,
• 13:52
  like,
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  new
• 13:53
  features
• 13:53
  that
• 13:53
  you're
• 13:53
  coming
• 13:53
  out
• 13:54
  with.
• 13:54
  So
• 13:54
  I
• 13:55
  think
• 13:55
  that
• 13:55
  it's.
• 13:56
  It's.
• 13:56
  Yeah,
• 13:56
  no,
• 13:56
  it's
• 13:56
  really
• 13:56
  cool
• 13:57
  what
• 13:57
  you're
• 13:57
  doing.
• 13:57
  It's
• 13:57
  really
• 13:58
  cool.
• 14:00
  Are
• 14:00
  there
• 14:00
  any
• 14:01
  features
• 14:01
  that
• 14:01
  you
• 14:02
  thought
• 14:02
  would
• 14:02
  be
• 14:02
  really
• 14:03
  good
• 14:03
  but
• 14:03
  then
• 14:04
  just
• 14:04
  didn't
• 14:05
  make
• 14:05
  the
• 14:05
  cut?
• 14:05
  Or
• 14:06
  at
• 14:06
  least
• 14:06
  not
• 14:06
  this
• 14:06
  time
• 14:07
  around?
• 14:08
  Ooh.
• 14:08
  Oh,
• 14:09
  that's
• 14:09
  a
• 14:09
  good
• 14:09
  question.
• 14:09
  Or
• 14:10
  is
• 14:10
  that
• 14:10
  top
• 14:10
  secret
• 14:11
  stuff?
• 14:11
  No,
• 14:12
  no,
• 14:12
  no.
• 14:13
  I
• 14:13
  don't
• 14:14
  really
• 14:14
  have
• 14:14
  secrets
• 14:15
  when
• 14:15
  it
• 14:15
  comes
• 14:16
  to
• 14:16
  development.
• 14:17
  I'm
• 14:17
  an
• 14:17
  open
• 14:17
  book.
• 14:21
  What
• 14:21
  could
• 14:21
  that
• 14:21
  be?
• 14:23
  There's
• 14:23
  always
• 14:26
  things
• 14:26
  that
• 14:27
  I
• 14:27
  would
• 14:27
  like
• 14:27
  to
• 14:28
  implement,
• 14:28
  but
• 14:29
  it's
• 14:29
  not
• 14:29
  possible
• 14:30
  based
• 14:30
  on
• 14:31
  limitations.
• 14:31
  Maybe
• 14:32
  with
• 14:32
  the
• 14:33
  API
• 14:33
  that
• 14:33
  Ableton
• 14:34
  offers.
• 14:35
  So
• 14:37
  one
• 14:38
  limitation
• 14:39
  that
• 14:41
  I'm
• 14:42
  always
• 14:42
  trying
• 14:42
  to
• 14:43
  find
• 14:43
  workarounds,
• 14:43
  but
• 14:44
  it
• 14:44
  seems
• 14:45
  like
• 14:45
  it's
• 14:45
  not
• 14:45
  possible
• 14:45
  yet
• 14:46
  is
• 14:47
  just
• 14:47
  being
• 14:47
  able
• 14:47
  to
• 14:48
  jump
• 14:48
  to
• 14:49
  sections
• 14:51
  within
• 14:51
  the
• 14:52
  song
• 14:52
  that
• 14:52
  don't
• 14:52
  have
• 14:53
  locators
• 14:53
  while
• 14:54
  Ableton
• 14:54
  is
• 14:54
  playing.
• 14:55
  That's
• 14:56
  one
• 14:56
  of
• 14:56
  the
• 14:56
  biggest.
• 14:57
  But
• 14:58
  can
• 14:58
  you
• 14:58
  explain
• 14:58
  that
• 14:58
  a
• 14:58
  little
• 14:59
  bit
• 14:59
  more?
• 14:59
  Just
• 14:59
  make
• 14:59
  sure
• 14:59
  everyone
• 14:59
  understands.
• 15:00
  Yeah,
• 15:00
  sure.
• 15:01
  So
• 15:02
  there's
• 15:02
  two
• 15:02
  ways
• 15:03
  to
• 15:03
  split
• 15:03
  a
• 15:04
  song
• 15:04
  into
• 15:04
  sections.
• 15:05
  So
• 15:05
  one
• 15:06
  would
• 15:06
  be
• 15:06
  to.
• 15:07
  You
• 15:07
  have
• 15:08
  a
• 15:08
  locator
• 15:08
  at
• 15:08
  the
• 15:08
  start
• 15:09
  of
• 15:09
  each
• 15:09
  song,
• 15:09
  and
• 15:09
  then
• 15:09
  for
• 15:10
  each
• 15:10
  section,
• 15:10
  you
• 15:11
  put
• 15:11
  another
• 15:11
  locator
• 15:12
  and
• 15:12
  give
• 15:12
  it
• 15:12
  the
• 15:13
  section
• 15:13
  name.
• 15:14
  But
• 15:15
  if
• 15:15
  you
• 15:15
  have
• 15:15
  a
• 15:16
  set
• 15:16
  with
• 15:16
  like,
• 15:17
  I
• 15:17
  don't
• 15:17
  know,
• 15:17
  30
• 15:18
  songs,
• 15:18
  50
• 15:18
  songs,
• 15:19
  100
• 15:19
  songs,
• 15:20
  that
• 15:20
  means
• 15:20
  you
• 15:20
  have
• 15:20
  a
• 15:21
  lot
• 15:21
  of
• 15:21
  locators
• 15:22
  in
• 15:22
  your
• 15:22
  project
• 15:22
  file.
• 15:23
  Oh,
• 15:23
  my
• 15:23
  God.
• 15:23
  Yeah.
• 15:23
  And
• 15:24
  it
• 15:24
  gets,
• 15:25
  you
• 15:25
  know,
• 15:25
  it
• 15:26
  gets
• 15:26
  messy
• 15:27
  quickly.
• 15:28
  So
• 15:29
  one
• 15:29
  of
• 15:29
  the
• 15:30
  features
• 15:30
  I
• 15:31
  added,
• 15:31
  I
• 15:31
  think,
• 15:31
  in
• 15:31
  Able
• 15:32
  Set
• 15:32
  two,
• 15:33
  is
• 15:33
  that
• 15:33
  you
• 15:34
  can
• 15:34
  add
• 15:34
  a
• 15:34
  sections
• 15:35
  track.
• 15:35
  So
• 15:35
  that's
• 15:36
  basically
• 15:36
  a
• 15:36
  MIDI
• 15:37
  track,
• 15:37
  and
• 15:38
  for
• 15:38
  each
• 15:38
  section,
• 15:38
  you
• 15:39
  just
• 15:39
  add
• 15:39
  an
• 15:39
  empty
• 15:39
  MIDI
• 15:40
  clip
• 15:40
  and
• 15:40
  name
• 15:40
  it
• 15:41
  after
• 15:42
  the
• 15:42
  section,
• 15:44
  which
• 15:44
  is
• 15:44
  great
• 15:44
  because
• 15:45
  it
• 15:45
  means
• 15:45
  less
• 15:45
  locators.
• 15:46
  It's
• 15:46
  just
• 15:46
  a
• 15:46
  track.
• 15:47
  You
• 15:47
  can
• 15:47
  collapse
• 15:47
  it
• 15:47
  if
• 15:47
  you
• 15:48
  don't
• 15:48
  need
• 15:48
  it,
• 15:49
  but
• 15:51
  it's
• 15:51
  not
• 15:51
  possible
• 15:51
  to
• 15:52
  jump
• 15:52
  to
• 15:52
  these
• 15:52
  sections
• 15:53
  while
• 15:53
  Ableton
• 15:54
  is
• 15:54
  playing.
• 15:55
  And
• 15:55
  that's
• 15:55
  one
• 15:56
  of
• 15:56
  the
• 15:56
  downsides
• 15:56
  of
• 15:56
  using
• 15:57
  this,
• 15:57
  and
• 15:58
  I
• 15:58
  would
• 15:58
  love
• 15:58
  to
• 15:59
  make
• 15:59
  that
• 15:59
  possible,
• 15:59
  but
• 16:00
  it's
• 16:00
  not
• 16:02
  something
• 16:02
  that
• 16:03
  I
• 16:03
  can
• 16:03
  implement
• 16:04
  at
• 16:04
  this
• 16:05
  moment
• 16:05
  due
• 16:05
  to
• 16:05
  limitations
• 16:06
  with
• 16:06
  the
• 16:06
  API.
• 16:08
  So
• 16:09
  is
• 16:09
  that
• 16:09
  like,
• 16:09
  you
• 16:10
  know,
• 16:10
  the
• 16:10
  song
• 16:11
  format
• 16:12
  is
• 16:12
  like
• 16:12
  intro,
• 16:13
  verse,
• 16:13
  chorus,
• 16:14
  verse,
• 16:15
  course,
• 16:15
  bridge
• 16:16
  or
• 16:16
  something?
• 16:17
  If
• 16:17
  you're
• 16:18
  at,
• 16:18
  say,
• 16:18
  verse
• 16:18
  one,
• 16:20
  you
• 16:20
  couldn't
• 16:20
  then
• 16:20
  skip
• 16:21
  to
• 16:21
  the
• 16:21
  Bridge
• 16:22
  immediately.
• 16:23
  Is
• 16:23
  that
• 16:23
  what
• 16:23
  you're
• 16:23
  talking,
• 16:24
  like,
• 16:24
  describing
• 16:24
  there?
• 16:25
  Exactly.
• 16:26
  Yeah,
• 16:26
  yeah,
• 16:28
  very.
• 16:28
  Yeah.
• 16:28
  Would
• 16:28
  be
• 16:29
  very
• 16:29
  useful.
• 16:30
  For
• 16:30
  sure.
• 16:31
  For
• 16:31
  sure.
• 16:31
  So
• 16:32
  that's
• 16:32
  just
• 16:32
  literally
• 16:33
  based
• 16:33
  on
• 16:33
  limitations
• 16:34
  that
• 16:34
  you
• 16:34
  can't
• 16:34
  really,
• 16:35
  at
• 16:35
  this
• 16:35
  point,
• 16:35
  get
• 16:35
  around.
• 16:37
  Yeah.
• 16:37
  Do
• 16:37
  you
• 16:37
  think
• 16:37
  that.
• 16:38
  Is
• 16:38
  that
• 16:38
  something
• 16:38
  that
• 16:39
  you
• 16:39
  think.
• 16:39
  Because
• 16:39
  they
• 16:40
  would.
• 16:40
  Ableton
• 16:41
  would
• 16:41
  have
• 16:41
  to
• 16:41
  change
• 16:41
  that
• 16:41
  on
• 16:42
  their
• 16:42
  side.
• 16:42
  Right.
• 16:43
  Is
• 16:43
  that
• 16:44
  something
• 16:44
  that
• 16:44
  you
• 16:44
  see
• 16:45
  possible
• 16:45
  or
• 16:46
  in
• 16:46
  the
• 16:46
  future?
• 16:49
  I
• 16:49
  hope
• 16:49
  so.
• 16:50
  I
• 16:50
  told
• 16:50
  them
• 16:51
  about
• 16:51
  it.
• 16:51
  I
• 16:52
  sent
• 16:52
  them
• 16:52
  some
• 16:53
  feedback
• 16:53
  and.
• 16:54
  Yeah,
• 16:56
  would
• 16:57
  be
• 16:57
  great
• 16:57
  to
• 16:57
  have
• 16:57
  that
• 16:58
  sometime
• 16:58
  in
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  future.
• 16:59
  Nice.
• 17:00
  How's
• 17:01
  your
• 17:01
  relationship
• 17:01
  with
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  Live
• 17:03
  side?
• 17:04
  I'm
• 17:05
  sure
• 17:05
  you
• 17:05
  have
• 17:05
  some
• 17:05
  back
• 17:05
  and
• 17:05
  forth
• 17:06
  with
• 17:06
  them
• 17:06
  on
• 17:06
  things
• 17:06
  that
• 17:07
  you're
• 17:07
  working
• 17:07
  on.
• 17:07
  How
• 17:08
  do
• 17:08
  they
• 17:08
  respond
• 17:08
  to
• 17:09
  your
• 17:09
  work?
• 17:10
  So
• 17:11
  there's
• 17:11
  not
• 17:11
  a
• 17:11
  lot
• 17:12
  of
• 17:12
  communication,
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  be
• 17:13
  honest.
• 17:13
  It's
• 17:13
  mostly
• 17:15
  just,
• 17:15
  you
• 17:16
  know,
• 17:16
  if
• 17:16
  I
• 17:16
  notice
• 17:16
  something
• 17:17
  doesn't
• 17:18
  quite
• 17:18
  work
• 17:18
  as
• 17:18
  expected,
• 17:19
  I
• 17:19
  send
• 17:19
  them
• 17:20
  some
• 17:20
  feedback
• 17:22
  and
• 17:22
  they
• 17:22
  are
• 17:23
  aware
• 17:23
  that
• 17:23
  ableset
• 17:24
  exists
• 17:24
  and
• 17:25
  their
• 17:25
  support
• 17:26
  team.
• 17:26
  I'm
• 17:27
  mostly
• 17:27
  in
• 17:28
  contact
• 17:28
  with
• 17:28
  their
• 17:28
  support
• 17:29
  team.
• 17:31
  They
• 17:31
  own
• 17:32
  ableset
• 17:32
  as
• 17:32
  well,
• 17:33
  so
• 17:33
  they
• 17:33
  can
• 17:33
  help
• 17:33
  customers
• 17:34
  who
• 17:34
  have
• 17:34
  issues
• 17:35
  with
• 17:35
  ableset
• 17:36
  and
• 17:36
  Live
• 17:36
  kind
• 17:37
  of
• 17:37
  in
• 17:37
  combination,
• 17:39
  but
• 17:39
  other
• 17:39
  than
• 17:40
  that,
• 17:40
  there's
• 17:40
  not
• 17:40
  a
• 17:40
  lot
• 17:40
  of
• 17:41
  communication,
• 17:42
  unfortunately.
• 17:43
  Okay,
• 17:44
  well,
• 17:44
  that's
• 17:45
  surprising,
• 17:45
  actually.
• 17:46
  Okay.
• 17:47
  Yeah.
• 17:48
  Okay,
• 17:48
  let's.
• 17:49
  Let's
• 17:49
  change
• 17:50
  that.
• 17:51
  That
• 17:51
  would
• 17:51
  be
• 17:52
  great.
• 17:52
  Yeah,
• 17:52
  that
• 17:53
  would
• 17:53
  be
• 17:53
  great.
• 17:53
  It's
• 17:54
  actually
• 17:54
  hard.
• 17:54
  It's
• 17:54
  hard
• 17:55
  to
• 17:55
  imagine,
• 17:55
  but.
• 17:55
  Okay.
• 17:56
  Well,
• 17:58
  I'm
• 17:58
  not.
• 17:58
  I
• 17:58
  guess
• 17:59
  they're.
• 17:59
  They
• 17:59
  probably
• 17:59
  have
• 18:00
  a
• 18:00
  lot
• 18:00
  of
• 18:00
  other
• 18:00
  people
• 18:00
  that
• 18:01
  are
• 18:01
  doing
• 18:01
  different
• 18:01
  types
• 18:02
  of
• 18:02
  development
• 18:02
  and
• 18:03
  software
• 18:04
  things
• 18:04
  as
• 18:04
  well,
• 18:04
  too.
• 18:04
  But
• 18:05
  I
• 18:05
  don't
• 18:06
  know,
• 18:06
  I
• 18:06
  feel
• 18:06
  like
• 18:06
  yours
• 18:06
  is,
• 18:07
  you
• 18:07
  know,
• 18:07
  when
• 18:07
  you
• 18:08
  start
• 18:08
  to
• 18:08
  talk
• 18:08
  about,
• 18:09
  like,
• 18:09
  the
• 18:09
  cream
• 18:09
  of
• 18:09
  the
• 18:09
  crop
• 18:10
  and.
• 18:11
  Thank
• 18:11
  you.
• 18:11
  Speaking.
• 18:12
  Actually,
• 18:12
  I
• 18:12
  do
• 18:12
  have
• 18:12
  a
• 18:13
  question
• 18:13
  based
• 18:13
  on
• 18:14
  this.
• 18:14
  I
• 18:14
  know
• 18:14
  I'm
• 18:14
  jumping
• 18:15
  around
• 18:15
  a
• 18:15
  little
• 18:15
  bit.
• 18:15
  I
• 18:16
  apologize,
• 18:16
  but.
• 18:17
  Because
• 18:18
  I
• 18:18
  know
• 18:18
  there
• 18:18
  are
• 18:19
  a
• 18:19
  lot
• 18:19
  of,
• 18:19
  you
• 18:19
  know,
• 18:19
  musicians,
• 18:20
  music
• 18:20
  directors,
• 18:21
  playback
• 18:22
  engineers
• 18:23
  who
• 18:23
  are
• 18:23
  using
• 18:23
  Able
• 18:24
  Set.
• 18:25
  I
• 18:25
  know
• 18:25
  you're
• 18:25
  a
• 18:25
  musician
• 18:26
  and
• 18:26
  a
• 18:26
  big
• 18:26
  fan
• 18:26
  of
• 18:27
  music
• 18:27
  overall.
• 18:27
  So
• 18:28
  have.
• 18:30
  Well,
• 18:30
  how
• 18:30
  do
• 18:30
  I
• 18:30
  say?
• 18:31
  Have
• 18:31
  there
• 18:31
  been
• 18:32
  any,
• 18:32
  you
• 18:32
  know,
• 18:33
  users
• 18:33
  that
• 18:33
  have
• 18:34
  been
• 18:34
  in
• 18:34
  contact
• 18:34
  with
• 18:34
  you
• 18:35
  that
• 18:35
  kind
• 18:35
  of
• 18:35
  like,
• 18:36
  you
• 18:36
  know,
• 18:37
  almost
• 18:37
  like
• 18:38
  you're
• 18:38
  a
• 18:38
  fan
• 18:39
  of.
• 18:39
  So
• 18:39
  almost
• 18:39
  was
• 18:40
  like,
• 18:40
  you
• 18:40
  know,
• 18:40
  you
• 18:40
  get
• 18:41
  that
• 18:41
  feeling
• 18:41
  of
• 18:41
  real
• 18:41
  excitement
• 18:42
  of,
• 18:42
  like,
• 18:42
  you
• 18:42
  know,
• 18:42
  so
• 18:43
  and
• 18:43
  so
• 18:43
  is
• 18:43
  using
• 18:43
  the
• 18:43
  product?
• 18:45
  Definitely.
• 18:45
  Yeah.
• 18:46
  Yeah.
• 18:46
  And
• 18:48
  it's
• 18:48
  happened
• 18:49
  a
• 18:49
  lot
• 18:49
  of
• 18:49
  times
• 18:49
  as
• 18:50
  well.
• 18:50
  Sometimes
• 18:54
  I've
• 18:54
  had
• 18:54
  some
• 18:54
  situations
• 18:55
  where
• 18:55
  I
• 18:56
  already
• 18:56
  had
• 18:56
  tickets
• 18:57
  for
• 18:57
  a
• 18:57
  band
• 18:58
  and
• 18:58
  then
• 18:58
  I
• 18:58
  found
• 18:58
  out
• 18:59
  they
• 18:59
  were
• 18:59
  using
• 18:59
  ableset.
• 19:00
  So
• 19:00
  I
• 19:00
  sent
• 19:01
  them
• 19:01
  a
• 19:01
  message
• 19:02
  and
• 19:02
  asked
• 19:03
  if
• 19:03
  they
• 19:03
  wanted
• 19:03
  to
• 19:03
  meet
• 19:04
  up.
• 19:04
  So
• 19:05
  that
• 19:05
  happens.
• 19:06
  But
• 19:06
  sometimes
• 19:07
  people
• 19:07
  Just
• 19:07
  reach
• 19:07
  out
• 19:08
  to
• 19:08
  me
• 19:09
  themselves
• 19:09
  and
• 19:10
  they're
• 19:10
  like,
• 19:10
  you
• 19:10
  know,
• 19:11
  hey,
• 19:11
  we're
• 19:11
  using
• 19:12
  ableset.
• 19:13
  We
• 19:14
  are
• 19:14
  around
• 19:14
  Germany
• 19:16
  in
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  next
• 19:17
  few
• 19:17
  months.
• 19:17
  Would
• 19:18
  you
• 19:18
  like
• 19:18
  to
• 19:18
  meet
• 19:18
  up?
• 19:18
  And
• 19:19
  that's
• 19:20
  something
• 19:20
  I
• 19:20
  always
• 19:20
  like
• 19:20
  to
• 19:21
  do.
• 19:21
  Just.
• 19:22
  Of
• 19:22
  course.
• 19:22
  Yeah.
• 19:23
  To
• 19:23
  discover
• 19:24
  how
• 19:24
  people
• 19:24
  are
• 19:24
  using
• 19:25
  it,
• 19:25
  their
• 19:25
  setups.
• 19:26
  It's
• 19:26
  always
• 19:26
  super
• 19:27
  interesting.
• 19:28
  Yeah,
• 19:29
  yeah,
• 19:29
  no,
• 19:29
  that's
• 19:30
  cool.
• 19:31
  That's
• 19:31
  really
• 19:31
  neat.
• 19:32
  That
• 19:32
  just
• 19:32
  shows
• 19:32
  it
• 19:32
  speaks
• 19:33
  to
• 19:33
  the
• 19:33
  quality
• 19:34
  of
• 19:35
  your
• 19:35
  work.
• 19:37
  Now,
• 19:37
  as
• 19:38
  far
• 19:38
  as
• 19:38
  that
• 19:38
  goes,
• 19:39
  are
• 19:39
  you
• 19:39
  working
• 19:39
  with
• 19:40
  a
• 19:40
  team
• 19:40
  or
• 19:41
  is
• 19:41
  it
• 19:41
  mostly
• 19:42
  you?
• 19:42
  So
• 19:43
  it's
• 19:43
  mostly
• 19:43
  me.
• 19:44
  Since
• 19:45
  the
• 19:45
  end
• 19:46
  of
• 19:46
  last
• 19:46
  year,
• 19:47
  I
• 19:47
  have
• 19:47
  my
• 19:48
  first
• 19:50
  kind
• 19:50
  of
• 19:50
  employee
• 19:51
  that
• 19:52
  helps
• 19:52
  with
• 19:53
  customer
• 19:53
  support.
• 19:54
  So
• 19:54
  that's
• 19:55
  a
• 19:55
  big
• 19:55
  help,
• 19:56
  I
• 19:56
  must
• 19:56
  say,
• 19:56
  because
• 19:59
  having
• 20:00
  this
• 20:00
  kind
• 20:00
  of
• 20:00
  context,
• 20:01
  switching
• 20:01
  between
• 20:02
  there's
• 20:03
  like
• 20:03
  50
• 20:04
  emails
• 20:04
  waiting
• 20:04
  for
• 20:05
  you
• 20:05
  to
• 20:05
  be
• 20:05
  answered.
• 20:06
  But
• 20:06
  also
• 20:06
  you
• 20:07
  need
• 20:07
  to
• 20:07
  focus
• 20:07
  on
• 20:08
  actually
• 20:08
  working
• 20:09
  on
• 20:09
  the
• 20:09
  app
• 20:10
  was
• 20:10
  getting
• 20:10
  kind
• 20:11
  of
• 20:11
  difficult.
• 20:11
  Especially
• 20:12
  as
• 20:12
  you
• 20:12
  get
• 20:13
  more
• 20:13
  customers,
• 20:13
  you
• 20:13
  get
• 20:13
  more
• 20:15
  support
• 20:15
  requests
• 20:15
  as
• 20:16
  well.
• 20:16
  So
• 20:17
  having
• 20:17
  someone
• 20:18
  that
• 20:19
  just
• 20:19
  takes
• 20:19
  care
• 20:19
  of
• 20:21
  most
• 20:22
  of
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  emails
• 20:23
  basically
• 20:23
  and
• 20:24
  just
• 20:24
  that's
• 20:24
  great.
• 20:25
  Pushes
• 20:26
  the
• 20:26
  ones
• 20:26
  that
• 20:27
  are
• 20:27
  very
• 20:27
  specific
• 20:29
  over
• 20:29
  to
• 20:29
  me
• 20:29
  so
• 20:29
  I
• 20:29
  can
• 20:30
  take
• 20:30
  care.
• 20:31
  That's
• 20:32
  a
• 20:32
  huge
• 20:32
  help.
• 20:32
  But
• 20:33
  so
• 20:35
  we're
• 20:35
  a
• 20:35
  team
• 20:35
  of
• 20:36
  two,
• 20:36
  basically.
• 20:37
  Wow.
• 20:38
  I
• 20:38
  mean,
• 20:39
  I
• 20:39
  get
• 20:39
  it,
• 20:39
  but
• 20:40
  it
• 20:40
  is
• 20:40
  mind
• 20:41
  blowing
• 20:41
  because
• 20:42
  it's
• 20:42
  like
• 20:42
  you're
• 20:42
  talking
• 20:43
  like
• 20:43
  global
• 20:43
  impact
• 20:44
  and
• 20:44
  reach.
• 20:45
  I'm
• 20:45
  sure
• 20:46
  have
• 20:46
  people
• 20:47
  all
• 20:47
  around
• 20:47
  the
• 20:47
  world
• 20:48
  using
• 20:49
  Able
• 20:49
  Set.
• 20:50
  Yeah.
• 20:50
  And
• 20:50
  you
• 20:50
  know,
• 20:51
  you've
• 20:51
  kept
• 20:52
  up
• 20:52
  with
• 20:52
  demands
• 20:53
  and
• 20:53
  probably
• 20:53
  support
• 20:54
  and
• 20:54
  everything
• 20:55
  by
• 20:55
  yourself.
• 20:57
  Did
• 20:57
  you
• 20:57
  have
• 20:57
  to
• 20:58
  stop
• 20:58
  or
• 20:58
  pull
• 20:59
  back
• 20:59
  on,
• 20:59
  you
• 21:00
  know,
• 21:00
  other
• 21:01
  aspects
• 21:01
  of
• 21:01
  music
• 21:02
  for
• 21:03
  yourself
• 21:03
  because
• 21:04
  of
• 21:04
  this?
• 21:05
  Yeah,
• 21:05
  definitely
• 21:07
  some
• 21:07
  trade
• 21:07
  off
• 21:08
  there.
• 21:08
  Especially
• 21:09
  in
• 21:09
  the
• 21:09
  past
• 21:09
  few
• 21:10
  months,
• 21:10
  I
• 21:10
  spent
• 21:11
  a
• 21:11
  lot
• 21:11
  of
• 21:11
  time
• 21:11
  really
• 21:12
  like
• 21:12
  working
• 21:12
  on
• 21:12
  the
• 21:13
  app.
• 21:14
  Like,
• 21:14
  you
• 21:14
  know,
• 21:14
  I
• 21:15
  get
• 21:15
  up
• 21:15
  in
• 21:15
  the
• 21:15
  morning
• 21:16
  or
• 21:16
  I
• 21:16
  would
• 21:17
  get
• 21:17
  up
• 21:17
  in
• 21:17
  the
• 21:17
  morning,
• 21:18
  work
• 21:19
  on
• 21:19
  it
• 21:19
  until
• 21:19
  like
• 21:20
  10pm,
• 21:21
  11pm
• 21:22
  and
• 21:22
  then
• 21:22
  I
• 21:22
  would
• 21:23
  go
• 21:23
  to
• 21:23
  bed.
• 21:24
  So
• 21:26
  that
• 21:26
  was
• 21:26
  basically
• 21:27
  my
• 21:27
  past
• 21:27
  few
• 21:27
  months.
• 21:28
  But
• 21:28
  now
• 21:29
  it's
• 21:29
  better
• 21:30
  because
• 21:31
  now
• 21:31
  that
• 21:32
  the
• 21:32
  version
• 21:33
  three
• 21:33
  is
• 21:33
  out,
• 21:34
  I
• 21:34
  can
• 21:35
  focus
• 21:35
  more
• 21:35
  on
• 21:36
  a
• 21:36
  bit
• 21:36
  of
• 21:36
  customer
• 21:36
  support
• 21:37
  and
• 21:37
  just
• 21:38
  working
• 21:38
  on
• 21:38
  little
• 21:39
  features,
• 21:39
  maybe
• 21:40
  a
• 21:40
  bug
• 21:40
  fix
• 21:40
  here
• 21:40
  and
• 21:41
  there.
• 21:41
  So
• 21:42
  that's
• 21:43
  something
• 21:44
  more
• 21:44
  free
• 21:44
  time
• 21:44
  for
• 21:44
  me.
• 21:46
  Yeah.
• 21:46
  Because
• 21:47
  I
• 21:47
  mean,
• 21:47
  really,
• 21:48
  you
• 21:48
  started
• 21:48
  this
• 21:48
  to
• 21:49
  use
• 21:49
  for
• 21:49
  yourself.
• 21:50
  Yeah.
• 21:50
  For
• 21:51
  your
• 21:51
  own
• 21:51
  performance
• 21:52
  and
• 21:52
  things.
• 21:53
  But
• 21:54
  it
• 21:54
  got
• 21:54
  so
• 21:54
  big
• 21:54
  that
• 21:55
  you
• 21:55
  had
• 21:55
  to
• 21:55
  stop
• 21:55
  using
• 21:55
  it
• 21:56
  for
• 21:56
  yourself
• 21:56
  so
• 21:56
  everyone
• 21:57
  else
• 21:58
  could
• 21:58
  enjoy
• 21:58
  it.
• 21:58
  So,
• 21:58
  I
• 21:59
  mean,
• 21:59
  thank
• 21:59
  you
• 21:59
  for
• 21:59
  that
• 21:59
  sacrifice.
• 22:00
  I
• 22:00
  hope
• 22:00
  that
• 22:01
  things
• 22:01
  sort
• 22:02
  of
• 22:02
  balance
• 22:02
  out
• 22:02
  where
• 22:02
  you're
• 22:03
  able
• 22:03
  to
• 22:03
  do
• 22:03
  more
• 22:03
  of,
• 22:04
  you
• 22:04
  know,
• 22:04
  both
• 22:05
  sides
• 22:05
  of
• 22:05
  it
• 22:06
  as
• 22:06
  well.
• 22:06
  But
• 22:06
  no,
• 22:06
  that's.
• 22:07
  That's
• 22:07
  really
• 22:07
  neat.
• 22:08
  Really
• 22:08
  Neat.
• 22:09
  I
• 22:09
  know
• 22:09
  we've
• 22:10
  talked
• 22:10
  about
• 22:10
  some
• 22:10
  of
• 22:10
  the
• 22:10
  features,
• 22:11
  but
• 22:11
  what's
• 22:11
  the
• 22:11
  feedback
• 22:12
  been
• 22:12
  from
• 22:13
  users
• 22:14
  based
• 22:14
  on
• 22:14
  able
• 22:15
  set
• 22:16
  3
• 22:16
  features?
• 22:18
  It's
• 22:18
  been
• 22:19
  very
• 22:19
  positive
• 22:19
  so
• 22:20
  far.
• 22:21
  I'm
• 22:21
  glad
• 22:21
  about
• 22:21
  that
• 22:22
  because
• 22:22
  it's
• 22:22
  always
• 22:24
  a
• 22:25
  bit
• 22:25
  frightening.
• 22:26
  You
• 22:26
  have
• 22:28
  some
• 22:29
  new
• 22:30
  version
• 22:30
  that
• 22:30
  you've
• 22:31
  worked
• 22:31
  on
• 22:31
  for
• 22:32
  over
• 22:32
  a
• 22:32
  year
• 22:32
  and
• 22:32
  then
• 22:33
  you
• 22:33
  put
• 22:33
  it
• 22:34
  out
• 22:34
  there
• 22:34
  and
• 22:35
  you're
• 22:35
  like,
• 22:36
  are
• 22:36
  people
• 22:36
  gonna
• 22:37
  like
• 22:37
  it?
• 22:37
  Or
• 22:37
  did
• 22:37
  I
• 22:38
  just
• 22:39
  add
• 22:39
  features
• 22:40
  that
• 22:40
  nobody
• 22:40
  wants
• 22:41
  or
• 22:41
  nobody
• 22:41
  uses?
• 22:43
  But
• 22:43
  no,
• 22:43
  feedback
• 22:44
  has
• 22:44
  been
• 22:44
  very
• 22:44
  positive.
• 22:45
  And
• 22:45
  I've
• 22:45
  seen
• 22:46
  lots
• 22:46
  of
• 22:46
  people
• 22:46
  already
• 22:47
  renewing
• 22:48
  their
• 22:48
  license
• 22:49
  for
• 22:49
  Able
• 22:49
  Set
• 22:49
  three
• 22:50
  or
• 22:50
  buying
• 22:51
  Able
• 22:51
  Set
• 22:51
  three.
• 22:53
  So.
• 22:54
  Yeah,
• 22:54
  and
• 22:55
  in
• 22:55
  the
• 22:55
  forum,
• 22:55
  you
• 22:55
  know,
• 22:56
  people
• 22:56
  are
• 22:56
  happy
• 22:56
  as
• 22:57
  well.
• 22:57
  Yeah,
• 22:59
  that
• 22:59
  was
• 22:59
  very
• 23:00
  relieving.
• 23:01
  Yeah.
• 23:01
  That's
• 23:02
  big
• 23:02
  because,
• 23:02
  I
• 23:02
  mean,
• 23:02
  it's
• 23:03
  your
• 23:03
  baby.
• 23:04
  You
• 23:04
  spend
• 23:04
  all
• 23:05
  day
• 23:05
  working
• 23:05
  on
• 23:06
  something.
• 23:06
  I
• 23:07
  mean,
• 23:07
  you
• 23:07
  don't
• 23:07
  really
• 23:07
  get
• 23:08
  the
• 23:08
  feedback
• 23:08
  until
• 23:09
  it's
• 23:09
  out.
• 23:09
  I'm
• 23:09
  sure
• 23:09
  you
• 23:10
  have
• 23:10
  a
• 23:10
  circle
• 23:10
  and,
• 23:10
  you
• 23:11
  know,
• 23:11
  you're.
• 23:11
  You
• 23:11
  know,
• 23:11
  some
• 23:12
  people
• 23:12
  that
• 23:12
  probably
• 23:12
  check
• 23:13
  things
• 23:13
  over
• 23:13
  and
• 23:14
  I.
• 23:14
  Sure.
• 23:15
  You
• 23:15
  go
• 23:15
  through
• 23:15
  it,
• 23:16
  you
• 23:16
  know,
• 23:16
  every
• 23:16
  single
• 23:17
  detail
• 23:17
  of
• 23:17
  it.
• 23:18
  But
• 23:18
  it's
• 23:18
  not
• 23:19
  till
• 23:19
  you
• 23:19
  get
• 23:19
  like
• 23:19
  that,
• 23:20
  you
• 23:20
  know,
• 23:20
  that
• 23:20
  mass
• 23:21
  feedback
• 23:21
  from
• 23:22
  people
• 23:22
  that
• 23:22
  you
• 23:22
  really.
• 23:23
  It's
• 23:23
  the
• 23:23
  same
• 23:23
  process.
• 23:24
  You
• 23:24
  know,
• 23:24
  songwriters
• 23:25
  experience
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  same
• 23:26
  thing.
• 23:26
  Like,
• 23:27
  you
• 23:27
  work
• 23:27
  on
• 23:27
  this
• 23:28
  thing,
• 23:28
  it's
• 23:28
  in
• 23:28
  your
• 23:28
  mind,
• 23:29
  it's
• 23:29
  in
• 23:29
  your
• 23:29
  heart,
• 23:30
  and
• 23:30
  then
• 23:30
  it's
• 23:31
  like,
• 23:31
  does
• 23:31
  the
• 23:31
  world
• 23:32
  like
• 23:32
  it?
• 23:34
  It's
• 23:34
  like.
• 23:35
  Like
• 23:35
  you're
• 23:36
  fully
• 23:36
  exposed
• 23:37
  at
• 23:37
  that
• 23:37
  point
• 23:37
  because
• 23:37
  it's
• 23:38
  like
• 23:38
  all
• 23:38
  of
• 23:38
  your
• 23:38
  thoughts,
• 23:39
  all
• 23:39
  of
• 23:39
  your
• 23:39
  creative
• 23:39
  work
• 23:40
  and
• 23:40
  energy
• 23:40
  goes
• 23:41
  into
• 23:41
  this
• 23:41
  thing.
• 23:41
  And
• 23:42
  what's
• 23:43
  that
• 23:43
  like?
• 23:43
  Do
• 23:43
  you
• 23:44
  get
• 23:44
  really,
• 23:44
  like,
• 23:45
  what's
• 23:45
  the
• 23:45
  feeling
• 23:45
  when
• 23:45
  you're
• 23:46
  about
• 23:46
  to
• 23:46
  say,
• 23:46
  okay,
• 23:47
  world,
• 23:48
  here
• 23:48
  it
• 23:48
  is.
• 23:49
  What
• 23:49
  does
• 23:49
  it
• 23:50
  feel
• 23:50
  like
• 23:50
  at
• 23:50
  that
• 23:50
  moment?
• 23:51
  It
• 23:52
  was
• 23:52
  really
• 23:52
  exciting.
• 23:53
  Yeah.
• 23:53
  But
• 23:53
  also
• 23:54
  scary.
• 23:54
  Yeah.
• 23:57
  I
• 23:57
  must
• 23:57
  add
• 23:58
  maybe
• 23:58
  that
• 23:59
  the
• 23:59
  night
• 23:59
  before,
• 24:01
  because
• 24:01
  I
• 24:01
  still
• 24:02
  had
• 24:02
  to
• 24:03
  finish
• 24:03
  the
• 24:03
  Ableset
• 24:04
  3
• 24:04
  introduction
• 24:05
  videos.
• 24:05
  So
• 24:07
  I
• 24:08
  think
• 24:08
  I
• 24:08
  stayed
• 24:08
  up
• 24:08
  until
• 24:08
  like
• 24:09
  6am
• 24:09
  that
• 24:09
  night.
• 24:10
  And
• 24:11
  the
• 24:12
  release
• 24:12
  was
• 24:12
  scheduled
• 24:13
  for
• 24:13
  noon.
• 24:14
  This
• 24:15
  basically
• 24:15
  the
• 24:16
  same
• 24:16
  day.
• 24:17
  So
• 24:17
  I
• 24:17
  had
• 24:17
  like
• 24:18
  three
• 24:18
  hours
• 24:19
  of
• 24:19
  sleep
• 24:19
  or
• 24:19
  four
• 24:20
  hours
• 24:20
  of
• 24:20
  sleep.
• 24:22
  You
• 24:22
  dreamt
• 24:23
  about
• 24:23
  Able
• 24:23
  Set?
• 24:24
  Yeah.
• 24:27
  And
• 24:27
  so
• 24:28
  it
• 24:28
  was,
• 24:29
  I
• 24:29
  think,
• 24:29
  a
• 24:29
  mix
• 24:30
  of
• 24:30
  lots
• 24:30
  of
• 24:30
  caffeine
• 24:31
  and
• 24:32
  lots
• 24:32
  of
• 24:32
  excitement
• 24:33
  and
• 24:33
  just
• 24:34
  a
• 24:34
  bit
• 24:34
  of
• 24:34
  scary
• 24:35
  feeling
• 24:35
  as
• 24:35
  well.
• 24:36
  But
• 24:37
  yeah,
• 24:38
  it
• 24:38
  was
• 24:38
  a
• 24:38
  huge
• 24:38
  relief
• 24:39
  to
• 24:39
  just
• 24:40
  get
• 24:40
  it
• 24:40
  out
• 24:40
  there
• 24:40
  and
• 24:41
  just.
• 24:42
  Just
• 24:42
  kind
• 24:43
  of
• 24:43
  drawing
• 24:44
  a
• 24:44
  finish
• 24:45
  line
• 24:45
  and
• 24:45
  being
• 24:45
  like,
• 24:45
  so
• 24:46
  this
• 24:46
  is
• 24:46
  the
• 24:46
  final
• 24:46
  product,
• 24:47
  now
• 24:47
  go
• 24:48
  and
• 24:48
  try
• 24:48
  it
• 24:48
  out.
• 24:48
  And
• 24:50
  yeah,
• 24:51
  a
• 24:51
  finish
• 24:52
  line
• 24:52
  is
• 24:53
  actually
• 24:53
  a
• 24:53
  big
• 24:53
  deal
• 24:54
  when
• 24:54
  you're
• 24:54
  talking
• 24:54
  about
• 24:55
  development.
• 24:56
  I'm
• 24:57
  sure
• 24:57
  it
• 24:57
  goes
• 24:57
  for
• 24:58
  other
• 24:58
  types
• 24:58
  of
• 24:59
  software.
• 24:59
  Business
• 24:59
  ideas
• 25:00
  in
• 25:00
  general.
• 25:02
  I
• 25:02
  mean,
• 25:02
  I'm
• 25:03
  sure
• 25:03
  once
• 25:03
  you're
• 25:03
  on
• 25:03
  a
• 25:03
  roll,
• 25:04
  ideas
• 25:04
  are
• 25:05
  flying.
• 25:05
  You're
• 25:05
  doing
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  whole
• 25:06
  thing
• 25:06
  where
• 25:06
  you're
• 25:06
  like,
• 25:06
  all
• 25:06
  right,
• 25:06
  that's
• 25:07
  not
• 25:07
  going
• 25:07
  to
• 25:07
  make
• 25:07
  it.
• 25:07
  No,
• 25:08
  focus
• 25:08
  on
• 25:08
  this
• 25:08
  one.
• 25:09
  But
• 25:09
  then
• 25:09
  you
• 25:09
  have
• 25:10
  to
• 25:10
  decide
• 25:10
  like,
• 25:10
  all
• 25:11
  right,
• 25:11
  we're
• 25:11
  stopping
• 25:11
  at
• 25:12
  this
• 25:12
  point,
• 25:14
  do
• 25:14
  you
• 25:15
  take
• 25:15
  a
• 25:15
  break
• 25:15
  now
• 25:16
  that
• 25:16
  it's
• 25:16
  released?
• 25:17
  I
• 25:17
  know
• 25:17
  you
• 25:17
  can
• 25:17
  kind
• 25:17
  of
• 25:18
  exhale
• 25:19
  a
• 25:19
  little
• 25:19
  bit,
• 25:20
  but
• 25:20
  do
• 25:20
  you
• 25:20
  have
• 25:20
  set
• 25:21
  time
• 25:21
  aside
• 25:22
  to
• 25:22
  pause
• 25:23
  from
• 25:23
  things
• 25:23
  or
• 25:24
  do
• 25:24
  you
• 25:24
  start.
• 25:24
  Does
• 25:25
  your
• 25:25
  brain
• 25:25
  go
• 25:25
  to
• 25:26
  Able
• 25:27
  Set
• 25:27
  four?
• 25:27
  Like,
• 25:27
  what
• 25:28
  happens?
• 25:30
  So
• 25:31
  after
• 25:31
  releasing
• 25:32
  Able
• 25:32
  Set
• 25:32
  three,
• 25:33
  I
• 25:33
  took
• 25:33
  a
• 25:33
  one
• 25:33
  week
• 25:34
  vacation
• 25:34
  that
• 25:34
  was
• 25:34
  very
• 25:35
  good.
• 25:35
  Just
• 25:35
  like
• 25:36
  get
• 25:36
  a
• 25:37
  change
• 25:37
  of
• 25:37
  scenery.
• 25:39
  I
• 25:40
  still
• 25:40
  did
• 25:40
  a
• 25:40
  bit
• 25:41
  of
• 25:41
  work
• 25:41
  during
• 25:41
  the
• 25:41
  vacation.
• 25:42
  I
• 25:42
  think
• 25:42
  it's
• 25:43
  never
• 25:43
  possible
• 25:44
  to
• 25:44
  completely
• 25:45
  stop
• 25:45
  working.
• 25:48
  But
• 25:49
  now
• 25:50
  that
• 25:50
  I'm
• 25:50
  back,
• 25:50
  I'm
• 25:51
  already
• 25:51
  working
• 25:51
  on
• 25:52
  the
• 25:52
  next
• 25:52
  features.
• 25:52
  So
• 25:53
  there's
• 25:54
  new
• 25:54
  stuff
• 25:55
  coming
• 25:55
  hopefully
• 25:56
  soon.
• 25:57
  Oh,
• 25:57
  so
• 25:57
  these
• 25:57
  would
• 25:58
  be
• 25:58
  kind
• 25:58
  of
• 25:58
  like
• 25:58
  upgrades
• 26:00
  to
• 26:00
  able
• 26:00
  set
• 26:00
  three?
• 26:01
  Not
• 26:01
  necessarily
• 26:01
  like,
• 26:02
  okay,
• 26:03
  okay.
• 26:03
  Kind
• 26:03
  of
• 26:04
  like
• 26:04
  Ableset
• 26:04
  3.1
• 26:05
  or
• 26:05
  a
• 26:05
  3.2
• 26:06
  maybe?
• 26:07
  Yeah,
• 26:07
  yeah.
• 26:07
  So
• 26:08
  it's
• 26:08
  really
• 26:08
  an
• 26:09
  ongoing
• 26:09
  thing.
• 26:10
  It's.
• 26:11
  That's
• 26:11
  cool.
• 26:12
  It's
• 26:12
  a
• 26:12
  project
• 26:13
  that
• 26:13
  just
• 26:14
  continues.
• 26:15
  That's
• 26:16
  really
• 26:16
  neat.
• 26:17
  Okay,
• 26:21
  so
• 26:22
  I
• 26:22
  guess
• 26:22
  the
• 26:22
  other
• 26:22
  thing
• 26:22
  I
• 26:23
  wanted
• 26:23
  to
• 26:23
  talk
• 26:23
  to
• 26:23
  you
• 26:23
  about
• 26:23
  quickly
• 26:25
  on
• 26:25
  your
• 26:26
  time
• 26:26
  here,
• 26:26
  but
• 26:27
  just
• 26:27
  on.
• 26:29
  Now
• 26:29
  that
• 26:30
  things
• 26:30
  have
• 26:30
  kind
• 26:30
  of
• 26:30
  taken
• 26:31
  a
• 26:31
  little
• 26:32
  bit
• 26:32
  of
• 26:32
  a
• 26:32
  calmer.
• 26:35
  You've
• 26:35
  reached
• 26:35
  a
• 26:35
  calm
• 26:36
  for
• 26:36
  a
• 26:36
  little
• 26:36
  bit.
• 26:37
  Do
• 26:38
  you
• 26:39
  actually.
• 26:39
  Before
• 26:39
  I
• 26:39
  ask
• 26:40
  this,
• 26:40
  let
• 26:40
  me.
• 26:41
  I
• 26:41
  didn't
• 26:41
  actually
• 26:41
  clarify
• 26:42
  with
• 26:42
  you.
• 26:42
  So
• 26:42
  when
• 26:42
  you're
• 26:43
  on
• 26:43
  stage,
• 26:43
  what's
• 26:44
  your
• 26:44
  role?
• 26:46
  I
• 26:46
  am
• 26:46
  the
• 26:47
  singer
• 26:47
  and
• 26:48
  the
• 26:48
  keyboard
• 26:48
  player
• 26:49
  in
• 26:49
  my
• 26:49
  band.
• 26:50
  Okay.
• 26:51
  And
• 26:51
  I
• 26:51
  also
• 26:52
  take
• 26:52
  care
• 26:52
  of
• 26:53
  all
• 26:53
  of
• 26:53
  the
• 26:53
  playback
• 26:54
  stuff
• 26:54
  and
• 26:54
  all
• 26:54
  of
• 26:54
  the.
• 26:55
  Gosh,
• 26:55
  you
• 26:55
  have
• 26:55
  your
• 26:55
  hands
• 26:56
  full.
• 26:56
  You
• 26:56
  got
• 26:56
  like
• 26:57
  seven
• 26:57
  pedals
• 26:57
  and.
• 27:01
  Okay,
• 27:01
  okay.
• 27:01
  I
• 27:02
  just
• 27:02
  wanted
• 27:02
  to
• 27:02
  make
• 27:02
  sure.
• 27:02
  Okay.
• 27:03
  So.
• 27:03
  So
• 27:03
  as
• 27:04
  the
• 27:04
  singer,
• 27:04
  are
• 27:04
  you
• 27:05
  doing
• 27:05
  original
• 27:06
  music
• 27:06
  as
• 27:06
  well?
• 27:06
  Yeah,
• 27:07
  yeah,
• 27:07
  it's
• 27:08
  99%
• 27:09
  original
• 27:10
  songs.
• 27:10
  Yeah.
• 27:10
  Creative
• 27:11
  process.
• 27:11
  So
• 27:12
  that's
• 27:12
  what
• 27:12
  I
• 27:12
  was
• 27:12
  kind
• 27:13
  of
• 27:13
  thinking
• 27:13
  towards.
• 27:15
  So
• 27:16
  is
• 27:16
  there
• 27:16
  a
• 27:16
  point
• 27:16
  now
• 27:17
  where
• 27:17
  you
• 27:17
  kind
• 27:17
  of.
• 27:18
  Or
• 27:18
  I
• 27:18
  don't
• 27:18
  know
• 27:18
  if
• 27:18
  you
• 27:18
  ever
• 27:18
  stop,
• 27:19
  but
• 27:19
  do
• 27:19
  you
• 27:19
  continue
• 27:20
  writing
• 27:20
  or
• 27:20
  now
• 27:21
  do
• 27:21
  you
• 27:21
  focus
• 27:21
  more
• 27:22
  on
• 27:22
  that
• 27:22
  or
• 27:22
  are
• 27:22
  you
• 27:22
  just
• 27:23
  not
• 27:24
  there
• 27:24
  yet?
• 27:25
  I
• 27:25
  think
• 27:26
  now
• 27:26
  I
• 27:26
  have
• 27:27
  some
• 27:27
  time
• 27:27
  to
• 27:27
  get
• 27:27
  back
• 27:28
  into
• 27:28
  writing
• 27:29
  music
• 27:29
  and
• 27:29
  just,
• 27:31
  you
• 27:32
  know,
• 27:32
  taking
• 27:32
  time
• 27:33
  aside
• 27:33
  to
• 27:33
  actually
• 27:34
  sit
• 27:34
  down
• 27:34
  in
• 27:34
  front
• 27:34
  of
• 27:34
  her
• 27:35
  keyboard
• 27:35
  and
• 27:37
  write
• 27:37
  some
• 27:37
  stuff,
• 27:38
  try
• 27:38
  out
• 27:38
  some
• 27:38
  ideas.
• 27:40
  But
• 27:41
  I'm
• 27:41
  very
• 27:41
  happy
• 27:42
  that
• 27:42
  this
• 27:42
  is
• 27:42
  possible
• 27:43
  again,
• 27:43
  that
• 27:43
  I
• 27:43
  have
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  headspace
• 27:45
  to
• 27:46
  get
• 27:46
  into
• 27:46
  it
• 27:47
  again
• 27:48
  because
• 27:48
  it's,
• 27:49
  I
• 27:49
  think
• 27:50
  making
• 27:51
  music
• 27:51
  is
• 27:51
  such
• 27:52
  an
• 27:52
  important
• 27:52
  part
• 27:52
  of
• 27:53
  my
• 27:53
  life
• 27:53
  that
• 27:56
  it
• 27:56
  was
• 27:57
  possible
• 27:57
  to
• 27:57
  live
• 27:57
  without
• 27:57
  it.
• 27:58
  But
• 27:58
  I
• 27:59
  noticed
• 28:00
  afterwards
• 28:01
  I
• 28:01
  really
• 28:01
  missed
• 28:02
  it.
• 28:03
  Yeah,
• 28:04
  not
• 28:04
  quite
• 28:04
  the
• 28:04
  same
• 28:04
  without
• 28:05
  it,
• 28:05
  right?
• 28:05
  No.
• 28:06
  And
• 28:06
  also
• 28:07
  not
• 28:07
  being
• 28:07
  on
• 28:07
  stage
• 28:08
  because
• 28:08
  that's
• 28:10
  such
• 28:11
  a
• 28:11
  great
• 28:11
  feeling
• 28:12
  to
• 28:12
  be
• 28:12
  on
• 28:12
  stage
• 28:13
  and
• 28:13
  to
• 28:14
  play
• 28:14
  your
• 28:14
  stuff
• 28:14
  and
• 28:15
  to
• 28:15
  see
• 28:15
  the
• 28:15
  audience
• 28:15
  react
• 28:17
  and
• 28:17
  stuff
• 28:17
  like
• 28:18
  that.
• 28:18
  So,
• 28:18
  yeah,
• 28:19
  looking
• 28:19
  forward
• 28:19
  to
• 28:19
  doing
• 28:20
  that
• 28:20
  again.
• 28:21
  Nice.
• 28:21
  That's
• 28:21
  cool.
• 28:22
  Is
• 28:22
  that
• 28:22
  something
• 28:22
  that
• 28:23
  you'll
• 28:23
  keep
• 28:23
  your
• 28:23
  community
• 28:23
  posted
• 28:24
  on
• 28:24
  or
• 28:24
  is
• 28:24
  that
• 28:25
  like
• 28:25
  a
• 28:25
  separate
• 28:25
  project
• 28:26
  altogether
• 28:26
  for
• 28:26
  you?
• 28:27
  Because
• 28:27
  now
• 28:27
  you've
• 28:27
  built
• 28:27
  this
• 28:28
  massive
• 28:28
  audience
• 28:28
  too?
• 28:30
  Yeah,
• 28:30
  no,
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  think
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  like
• 28:32
  to
• 28:32
  keep
• 28:32
  the
• 28:32
  two
• 28:33
  separate
• 28:33
  because
• 28:35
  it
• 28:35
  feels
• 28:36
  a
• 28:36
  bit
• 28:36
  strange
• 28:36
  to
• 28:36
  use
• 28:37
  my
• 28:37
  reach
• 28:38
  as
• 28:38
  a
• 28:38
  Able
• 28:38
  Set
• 28:39
  developer
• 28:39
  to
• 28:39
  promote
• 28:40
  my
• 28:40
  band.
• 28:41
  It's
• 28:41
  kind
• 28:41
  of
• 28:41
  two
• 28:42
  separate
• 28:42
  things.
• 28:42
  But
• 28:43
  yeah,
• 28:44
  I'm
• 28:44
  sure
• 28:44
  there'll
• 28:44
  be
• 28:44
  some
• 28:45
  passive
• 28:45
  interest
• 28:46
  in
• 28:46
  there
• 28:46
  from
• 28:46
  a
• 28:47
  lot
• 28:47
  of
• 28:47
  people
• 28:47
  anyways,
• 28:48
  so.
• 28:48
  No,
• 28:48
  really.
• 28:49
  Cool.
• 28:51
  So
• 28:51
  I
• 28:51
  guess
• 28:52
  we'll
• 28:52
  kind
• 28:53
  of
• 28:53
  wrap
• 28:53
  it
• 28:53
  up.
• 28:53
  I'll
• 28:53
  let
• 28:53
  you
• 28:54
  run
• 28:54
  as
• 28:54
  promised,
• 28:54
  but
• 28:55
  let
• 28:55
  people
• 28:55
  know
• 28:56
  where
• 28:56
  to
• 28:56
  find
• 28:57
  you,
• 28:57
  where
• 28:58
  to
• 28:58
  find
• 28:58
  your
• 28:58
  product
• 28:59
  and
• 29:00
  keep
• 29:00
  up
• 29:00
  on
• 29:01
  your
• 29:01
  journey
• 29:01
  and
• 29:02
  what
• 29:02
  to
• 29:02
  look
• 29:02
  out
• 29:02
  for
• 29:03
  next.
• 29:03
  Maybe
• 29:03
  if
• 29:03
  you
• 29:03
  could
• 29:03
  drop
• 29:04
  one
• 29:04
  or
• 29:04
  two
• 29:04
  things
• 29:05
  might
• 29:05
  be
• 29:05
  too
• 29:05
  soon.
• 29:05
  Yeah,
• 29:06
  sure.
• 29:07
  So
• 29:07
  if
• 29:07
  you'd
• 29:08
  like
• 29:08
  to
• 29:08
  check
• 29:08
  out
• 29:08
  Ableset,
• 29:09
  you
• 29:09
  can
• 29:09
  go
• 29:09
  to
• 29:10
  ableset.com
• 29:12
  there's
• 29:12
  links
• 29:12
  to
• 29:13
  the
• 29:13
  forum
• 29:13
  as
• 29:13
  well,
• 29:14
  which
• 29:14
  is
• 29:14
  forum
• 29:15
  ableset
• 29:15
  app
• 29:16
  where
• 29:17
  there's
• 29:17
  a
• 29:17
  huge
• 29:18
  community
• 29:18
  of
• 29:18
  playback
• 29:19
  engineers,
• 29:19
  musicians
• 29:20
  that
• 29:20
  just
• 29:21
  share
• 29:21
  ideas
• 29:22
  and
• 29:22
  feedback
• 29:23
  and
• 29:23
  stuff
• 29:24
  like
• 29:24
  that.
• 29:24
  This
• 29:25
  is
• 29:25
  also
• 29:25
  where
• 29:25
  I
• 29:25
  post
• 29:26
  about
• 29:26
  new
• 29:27
  releases
• 29:27
  and
• 29:27
  beta
• 29:28
  versions
• 29:28
  and
• 29:28
  updates
• 29:29
  and
• 29:29
  stuff.
• 29:31
  I
• 29:31
  don't
• 29:31
  really
• 29:31
  have
• 29:31
  a
• 29:32
  lot
• 29:32
  of
• 29:32
  social
• 29:32
  media
• 29:33
  apart
• 29:33
  from
• 29:33
  Instagram,
• 29:34
  which
• 29:34
  is
• 29:35
  also,
• 29:35
  I
• 29:36
  think,
• 29:36
  ableset
• 29:37
  app,
• 29:38
  which
• 29:38
  used
• 29:39
  to
• 29:39
  be
• 29:39
  my
• 29:39
  old
• 29:40
  domain.
• 29:41
  Yeah.
• 29:42
  And
• 29:43
  there
• 29:43
  I
• 29:44
  just
• 29:44
  post
• 29:45
  some
• 29:45
  stories
• 29:45
  from
• 29:45
  time
• 29:46
  to
• 29:46
  time.
• 29:46
  I
• 29:46
  repost
• 29:47
  stories
• 29:48
  that
• 29:48
  others
• 29:48
  post
• 29:49
  of
• 29:49
  ableset
• 29:50
  in
• 29:50
  use,
• 29:50
  which
• 29:51
  might
• 29:51
  be
• 29:51
  some
• 29:51
  nice
• 29:52
  inspiration
• 29:53
  and
• 29:55
  maybe,
• 29:55
  yeah,
• 29:55
  check
• 29:56
  out
• 29:56
  the
• 29:56
  Ableset
• 29:57
  channel
• 29:57
  on
• 29:57
  YouTube.
• 29:57
  I
• 29:58
  have
• 29:58
  a
• 29:58
  new
• 29:59
  Ableset
• 29:59
  tutorial
• 30:00
  series
• 30:00
  that
• 30:00
  goes
• 30:01
  from
• 30:01
  zero
• 30:01
  to,
• 30:02
  you
• 30:02
  know,
• 30:03
  all
• 30:03
  you
• 30:03
  need
• 30:03
  to
• 30:03
  know
• 30:04
  to
• 30:04
  be
• 30:04
  a
• 30:04
  Playback
• 30:05
  engineer.
• 30:05
  Basically.
• 30:06
  Perfect.
• 30:07
  Yeah,
• 30:09
  man,
• 30:09
  Amazing.
• 30:10
  Thanks
• 30:10
  so
• 30:10
  much
• 30:10
  for
• 30:10
  chatting.
• 30:11
  Thanks
• 30:11
  for
• 30:11
  your
• 30:11
  time,
• 30:11
  man,
• 30:12
  and
• 30:12
  thanks
• 30:12
  for
• 30:12
  all
• 30:13
  that
• 30:13
  you're
• 30:13
  doing.
• 30:13
  Yeah,
• 30:14
  thanks
• 30:14
  for
• 30:14
  having
• 30:14
  me.
• 30:15
  Yeah,
• 30:15
  you
• 30:15
  are.
• 30:16
  I
• 30:16
  mean,
• 30:16
  if
• 30:16
  I
• 30:16
  can
• 30:16
  speak
• 30:17
  on
• 30:17
  behalf
• 30:17
  of
• 30:17
  all
• 30:18
  the
• 30:18
  Able
• 30:19
  Set
• 30:19
  community
• 30:19
  around
• 30:20
  the
• 30:20
  world.
• 30:20
  You're
• 30:21
  greatly
• 30:21
  appreciated,
• 30:22
  man.
• 30:22
  Keep
• 30:22
  doing
• 30:22
  what
• 30:22
  you're
• 30:23
  doing.
• 30:23
  We're
• 30:23
  cheering
• 30:23
  you
• 30:23
  on,
• 30:24
  supporting
• 30:24
  you
• 30:24
  and
• 30:26
  yeah,
• 30:26
  appreciate
• 30:26
  you,
• 30:27
  man.
• 30:27
  I
• 30:27
  appreciate
• 30:28
  it.
• 30:28
  Thank
• 30:28
  you.
• 30:28
  All
• 30:29
  the
• 30:29
  best
• 30:29
  people
• 30:29
  as
• 30:29
  thanks
• 30:30
  for
• 30:30
  listening.
• 30:30
  Listening,
• 30:30
  everybody.
• 30:31
  Check
• 30:31
  out
• 30:31
  Able
• 30:31
  Set.
• 30:32
  Follow
• 30:32
  Leo's
• 30:33
  work.
• 30:34
  Cool.
• 30:34
  Take
• 30:35
  care.
• 30:36
  You
• 30:36
  too.
• 30:36
  Bye.