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- 0:01This is the smart buildings Academy podcast with Phil Zito
- 0:05episode 459. Hey folks, Phil Zito here and welcome to episode
- 0:09459 of the smart buildings Academy podcast. In this
- 0:13episode, we're gonna be going over bas operational structures.
- 0:16So we're going to be continuing our business series on building
- 0:20automation. So for those of you who run a p&l, those of you who
- 0:24run a business, we're gonna go through some common structures
- 0:28for building automation teams talk through the different
- 0:31roles, talk through the different processes answer what
- 0:34questions you have. As always, everything can be found at
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- 1:13podcasts. Alright, let's dive in to the episode. So for those of
- 1:18you listening to this after the fact there is a video portion to
- 1:22this, it's only three slides it's not a whole lot. So don't
- 1:26worry, if you're kind of driving, you're not missing out
- 1:29by not seeing the video. So the purpose of today is to describe
- 1:35the fundamental bas team structures identify the
- 1:38structure you need based on your current and projected growth,
- 1:41and then identify the processes you need based on your
- 1:43structure. So there's three structures we'll go through
- 1:47today, there are the construction structure, there
- 1:50are the service structure, and then the operation structure. So
- 1:54operations is for facility operations service is for
- 1:58servicing facilities, and construction is for building I'm
- 2:03gonna go through at first and define these lead roles, because
- 2:08you'll see some of them look similar. Some of them are a
- 2:10little different than I'm going to go through the individual
- 2:13roles, we'll talk through some of the common processes, and
- 2:16we'll also talk through the evolution. So first off, if we
- 2:20look at construction, we have technical leads, these folks
- 2:23lead the technicians, technicians are typically people
- 2:27who are doing startup, point to point upload download of
- 2:31controllers, setting up comm buses, etc. You've got a design
- 2:35lead. And these are folks who lead the designers these are
- 2:38people who create your graphics, sometimes graphics and submittal
- 2:43design will be split, sometimes it will be together. But this
- 2:46would be people who create submittals. And people who
- 2:49create graphics, you'll have designers and then a design lead
- 2:53programmers obviously write the programs. And then project
- 2:57leads, these people lead the PMs of a project admin who's
- 3:01responsible for contracts, Billings, material order, etc.
- 3:06And all of this reports into the operational p&l holder. Now a
- 3:10lot of you maybe have a one three $4 million controls
- 3:14business, you're just getting started, you're wondering how in
- 3:17the world does any of this work? What typically we see when
- 3:22someone is building a new controls organization.
- 3:25Obviously, if you're part of an OEM or an established controls
- 3:29contractor, you have established processes, you should have
- 3:33established job descriptions, you should have established
- 3:37roles, career progression, you should have established
- 3:40processes, etc. But for the rest of you who are either building
- 3:44your controls department as part of a mechanical contractor or
- 3:47building it just from scratch as a controls, contractor,
- 3:51typically you start off in one of two buckets, either you were
- 3:56a really successful salesperson. And you now have paired up with
- 4:02a technical person, and you're going about addressing the
- 4:06market need as you solve it and you're becoming a controls
- 4:09company, or you are a highly technical controls person who
- 4:13had some key customers and you ventured out onto your own into
- 4:17the world of construction or services we'll see later.
- 4:21Because customers said, Hey, you're really good at this, you
- 4:24should do it on your own. Traditionally, you want to build
- 4:29your business by taking the lowest cost skills off you as
- 4:34fast as possible. So I'm not going to tell you your
- 4:37thresholds because I used to tell people revenue thresholds,
- 4:41but it really depends. Because you can have 20 jobs, right that
- 4:47are $50,000 or you can have one job that's a million dollars and
- 4:51the way in which those jobs are structured, and the needs you'll
- 4:56have are going to vary. But what I will say is Whenever you are
- 5:00looking to expand your business and the building automation
- 5:04world, what you want to first focus on is what are you doing
- 5:09currently in the field that can be taken on by someone
- 5:13significantly less expensive than you. So for example, if
- 5:18you, as the business owner, are going out and doing point point
- 5:22checks on inputs and outputs, or terminating wires, that's
- 5:27something that if you look at the return on investment, you
- 5:31could most likely find someone to do that for significantly
- 5:36less. And there's a reason I ordered these in the way I did,
- 5:40you'll notice that they progressively get more advanced
- 5:43until you hit the project leads and PMS. And those are folks
- 5:48that are I'll talk about them a little bit later. But what you
- 5:52should progress from naturally is technical leads, right, so
- 5:57you'll start, you'll first get attack. And ideally, this tech
- 6:02would be senior enough that they could eventually progress into
- 6:05your technical lead and have other texts under them. Once
- 6:09you've got your texts handled, then you're going to want to
- 6:12move to off shore or offshore, offload your design, and then
- 6:18offload your programming. That's if you're a technical person, if
- 6:22you're a salesperson, you're gonna probably do it the other
- 6:26way, you most likely have some technical person right now, that
- 6:32is partnered with you because I've not met salespeople who go
- 6:36out and start doing all the technical stuff and running
- 6:39their own business, they, there are a handful of them out there.
- 6:42But they're unicorns, majority of them are, you know, they're
- 6:46successful salesperson with relationships, and they pair it
- 6:48up with a tech they knew and they started a business. In that
- 6:52case, that tech usually will be the lead for all of these roles.
- 6:57And you'll gradually fill in, you'll fill on tech designer
- 7:02programmer. And then once you get large enough that tech lead
- 7:06will start handing off to other leads. And I realize I could
- 7:10actually use a pointer here, give me one second, I'm going to
- 7:12use my laser pointer. There we go. So like I was saying, you'll
- 7:20have this tech kind of up here. And that tech will then act as
- 7:25the lead. And you'll once again, tech designer programmer, until
- 7:30you build up enough to necessarily necessitate your own
- 7:33leads. Alright, let's keep moving on. If there's any
- 7:37questions at any time, do not hesitate to interrupt and ask,
- 7:41you will not be interrupting. So don't worry about it. Error
- 7:47rate, let's turn this off. And let's move to the next slide.
- 7:52And let's turn the pointer back on. And we're going to move to
- 7:55service. Traditionally, service is structured in two primary
- 8:01buckets, you have technical service, which is going to be
- 8:04your planned preventative maintenance and your unplanned
- 8:10reactive maintenance. So service calls and plan service
- 8:14agreements, that's going to be typically executed by your
- 8:17service techs, which then will have a service lead, then you've
- 8:21got your retrofit leads, and your retrofit tax. So your
- 8:27retrofit techs are going to execute any retrofit work. So
- 8:30this is going to be work that you go to an existing site, it
- 8:34has somebody else's system or legacy system and you upgrade
- 8:37it, eventually you'll build up enough book of business in this
- 8:42to need a lead, who will lead this. And those leads are going
- 8:47to be a blend of project management and technical
- 8:50experience. And then your service admin exists to do
- 8:53dispatch to go and make sure your trucks are stocked to
- 8:58handle any service escalation and to make sure that people are
- 9:03sent to the right. pm projects that they need to do
- 9:07preventative maintenance plan service group projects. All
- 9:11right, let's keep moving along. Let's turn this off and turn it
- 9:17back on. And let's talk through operations. So operations, this
- 9:24is facility operations. And what this typically will look like is
- 9:29and I'm actually just going to verify real quick that
- 9:31everything's streaming properly. I normally do this, but I had a
- 9:35long weekend. Alright, good. We're looking good. So like I
- 9:40said, with owner operations, you're
- 9:43typically going to have a director of facilities and then
- 9:46under that director of facilities or facility manager,
- 9:49you are going to have operators and engineers. This is going to
- 9:53be on the operational side. So these folks are going to operate
- 9:59the facility The operators, they typically exist to go and change
- 10:03points. Go and monitor systems monitor graphics, they operate
- 10:09the system. Depending on your vertical market, as well as the
- 10:16complexity of your buildings, you may or may not have
- 10:20engineered now engineers does not mean licensed engineers
- 10:25unless you're in Canada, or other countries. In the US, it
- 10:29can simply mean someone who goes and does more complex work,
- 10:33whereas an operator will operate the building, an engineer will
- 10:37be able to go into the building systems, modify graphics,
- 10:42understand programs, potentially even rewrite programs I've met
- 10:46building owner operators that have actually created their own
- 10:50building automation system, and deployed that these are more
- 10:54usually University customers things like that. So these two
- 10:59roles in and of itself, you'll typically start with operators
- 11:02and you'll outsource the engineering until you have a
- 11:05large enough set of facilities, or something that is critical
- 11:09enough to deem having engineering in house, then we've
- 11:13got this construction lead. This role exists for new
- 11:17construction, it is they are your representative on the
- 11:22construction team on the new build team. So establishing
- 11:26Building Standards facility standards, ensuring that those
- 11:30standards get communicated to the engineer of record and
- 11:33enforced throughout the contracts. That is the purpose
- 11:37of the construction leads. So they sit with the construction
- 11:41team typically part of the natural separate p&l, so it
- 11:44wouldn't be the operational p&l, it would be the capital projects
- 11:48team typically. And then facility admins, these are folks
- 11:52who are meant to collect trouble calls dispatch them to the
- 11:57appropriate roles. They are also meant to coordinate any
- 12:02interaction with the contractors that come and work on the sites.
- 12:06Let's go back and get rid of the projector. So those are the
- 12:14fundamental team structures. Now let's talk about identifying the
- 12:17structure you need to have based on your current and projected
- 12:21growth. So if you're currently a smaller controls business,
- 12:26you're like I mentioned going to typically just add a tech to
- 12:31augment you if you're a technical person. If you have a
- 12:36partner who's technical and you're more on the sales side,
- 12:38you still can add techs, but you're going to be able to delay
- 12:41the lead roles a little bit. It's only when you get to a
- 12:46certain amount of projects. And I'm not going to tell you what
- 12:48that is because it's really dependent on each business that
- 12:51you'll want to start adding project managers and then you're
- 12:54going to add a project leader to be over these project managers
- 12:58but getting an admin to assist in Billings system material
- 13:02orders. That's pretty low hanging fruit. As soon as you
- 13:06start to get any significant amount of work and you have a
- 13:09handful of tax, getting that project admin on board so they
- 13:13can manage billing payroll, material orders, etc. That is
- 13:19going to be a critical role. So that would be my progression
- 13:23would be add techs at the project admin, then add the
- 13:26designer and the programmer, then add your leads, and then
- 13:30start to look at adding a pm Kind of the same time you add
- 13:33the leads, you add the PM. And then as you build up, you'll
- 13:37actually could do one of two things you can have a pool of
- 13:40talent, and the pool of tacks pool of designers pool of
- 13:44programmers can be dispatched to the PMs based on their leads
- 13:49their leads will work scheduling, or you can have kind
- 13:52of a horizontal team where each pm has a dedicated amount of
- 13:56programmers, designers and techs. I prefer the pool method.
- 14:00I think it provides greater flexibility. Some folks prefer
- 14:04the horizontal method, because doing that creates a team
- 14:08atmosphere with that pm and some people believe that may or may
- 14:13not increase retention rates. We look at service building this
- 14:19out. It's pretty straightforward. Usually, when
- 14:24you're building out a service team, initially it's done as an
- 14:27attach. So you look at your attach rate. So you either are
- 14:30attaching to your construction controls or your mechanical
- 14:36construction projects. So you'll have a service tech, you'll
- 14:39attach them to that job typically as part of a plan
- 14:42service agreement initially, and then you will leverage those
- 14:47service agreements to create service leads. And you'll start
- 14:51responding to those. So as soon as you have one to two tasks,
- 14:54you'll want to get a service admin who can manage dispatch
- 14:58and then once you have that your tech should be finding pull
- 15:02through you should be incentivizing them to find pull
- 15:04through, at which point you'll need retrofit Tech's to execute
- 15:07that pull through work if it becomes complex enough, and
- 15:11eventually you'll need retrofit leads. Then right here, I kind
- 15:17of already talked through this earlier, but you start with
- 15:20operators. Depending on the complexity of the building, you
- 15:24may add some engineers, you can initially have a single lead
- 15:28over both roles. But if you get enough people and it gets
- 15:31complex enough, you may want an operator lead in an engineering
- 15:35lead. But as soon as you start to add operators, you should add
- 15:38a facility admin admins are a great low cost role, that can
- 15:42really make things a lot easier for you and the hourly rate,
- 15:46you're paid as an operational p&l holder is going to be
- 15:50substantially higher than an admin. So having them do the
- 15:53kind of lower value tasks at a lower wage rate is really a
- 16:00smart idea. Go back, identify the processes. So I kind of went
- 16:04through all of that I went through the processes, I already
- 16:07knew this was going to be slightly shorter than our normal
- 16:10podcasts. But to sum it all up, at the end of the day,
- 16:15understand your market, understand your capabilities and
- 16:19your business partner if you have ones capabilities, and then
- 16:22build your team to take over those capabilities that are that
- 16:29have the least ROI. So if you're out there having to do install
- 16:34and start up should probably replace that first. If you're
- 16:38only having to do programming, you could probably bear that a
- 16:41little bit longer. But that's the basics of operational
- 16:46structures. We'll get into processes. In a future episode,
- 16:49we'll talk through common processes. We'll look at the
- 16:53project development lifecycle. So we'll talk about from release
- 16:57to operations to your initial submittal design takeoffs. We'll
- 17:02talk about point to point we'll talk about the entire project
- 17:06lifecycle from start to finish. That being said, I'll see if
- 17:09anyone has any questions before we call the day.
- 17:23At cough there for a second. I hope everyone had a good Easter.
- 17:27It's good to be back. It felt like this weekend was a lot
- 17:30longer than a normal weekend. I don't know why it just felt that
- 17:34way. For those of you who don't know, we are also doing a
- 17:39technical session on Wednesday. And this week's technical
- 17:44session is going to be on inputs and outputs. So we're gradually
- 17:48going to be building out that technical roadmap of podcasts
- 17:53for new technical talent that want to kind of get up to speed.
- 17:58So like I said, everything will be available at podcasts at
- 18:01smart buildings academy.com Ford slash 459. I appreciate everyone
- 18:05hanging out here. I hope you all found this valuable. If you do
- 18:09have any questions after the fact hit us up on LinkedIn or on
- 18:12YouTube is great to see you all and I hope you have an awesome
- 18:16week. Take care