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Normally Podcast: Ilhan Omar ICE Investigation, James Talarico's Disappearance & Shane Gillis SNL Backlash · Normally

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, we are back on the normal.
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  Speaker 2: So the normal takes for women.
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  Speaker 3: It's here.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Mary Catherine.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Carol Markowitz. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Mary Catherine.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty good. The weather is gorgeous. It's that, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I know you don't do seasons. We're in that like
• 0:21
  Speaker 3: really brief period where fall is just perfect before it
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  Speaker 3: gets cold. So it's a nice, it's a nice time.
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  Speaker 1: I love that for you.
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  Speaker 2: I would still be cold during that perfect fall.
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  Speaker 1: So, um, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Okay, what's going on? Happy Columbus Day, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: And on Columbus Day, the ICE agents raided Ilan Omar's home.
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  Speaker 1: What in the world is happening there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this looks like a ICE slash Homeland Security
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  Speaker 3: investigation that has something to do with immigration documentation. There
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  Speaker 3: have been rumors and some, let's say, documented irregularities in
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  Speaker 3: her immigration and marriage status documents in the past. And
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  Speaker 3: this looks like the next step of investigating that. J.D.
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  Speaker 3: Vance has talked openly in the past about how it
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  Speaker 3: seems pretty clear to him that there's something going on
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  Speaker 3: here and that they would investigate. This, of course, is
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  Speaker 3: another in a string of investigations that fall at the
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  Speaker 3: doorstep of people who the Trump administration does not like,
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  Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean they didn't do bad things.
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  Speaker 2: That's, that's, yeah, that's the reality of the situation is
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  Speaker 2: that there's a lot of people he would go after,
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  Speaker 2: but he's actually only going after certain people. And that
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  Speaker 2: is a big, big major tell about the Elon Omar story.
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  Speaker 3: You're right.
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  Speaker 2: JD Vance has talked about it a few times in
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  Speaker 2: the past, but the, Allegations of that she married her
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  Speaker 2: brother began with the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which is a
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  Speaker 2: very left-leaning outlet. So this isn't like conservatives were trying
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  Speaker 2: to get her and the Minneapolis Star Tribune was in
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  Speaker 2: on it. They.
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  Speaker 1: investigated the story.
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  Speaker 2: And even though they didn't come up with, let's say,
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  Speaker 2: a firm thing that she married her brother, they absolutely
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  Speaker 2: had reporting that they had filed joint tax returns and
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  Speaker 2: things that were very questionable.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and that she was doing joint tax returns with
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  Speaker 3: someone else while with her brother, while still legally married
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  Speaker 3: to another person. And so that would be a problem
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  Speaker 3: for any of us. And it shouldn't not be a
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  Speaker 3: problem for her because she's a congresswoman.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 2: But we don't know for sure that this raid today
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  Speaker 2: is about the married her brother story right is that
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  Speaker 2: where we are.
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  Speaker 3: Yes so this the story the early reporting is that
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  Speaker 3: this has to do with documentation from her childhood that
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  Speaker 3: her father filled out so that's interesting. And I would
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  Speaker 3: say if it if that is all it is, look,
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  Speaker 3: that might just be one part of it. A judge
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  Speaker 3: gave a warrant for this, and that judge apparently is
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  Speaker 3: in the D.C.
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  Speaker 2: Area.
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  Speaker 3: So I would not imagine that it's some right. There's
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  Speaker 3: no right winger. Someone found cause to give this warrant.
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  Speaker 3: I would say if it's that far back, that seems
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  Speaker 3: like a bit of a reach to me. But as
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  Speaker 3: I said, we've seen irregularities from her throughout. And we
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  Speaker 3: should note also that Trump's record in going after those
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  Speaker 3: that he doesn't love. Most successful prosecution was the John
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  Speaker 3: Bolton one, which started in the Biden administration, which absolves
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  Speaker 3: him of the concern that it was revenge. But John
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  Speaker 3: Bolton did a guilty plea. And in June, the rest
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  Speaker 3: of them, James Comey fell apart on one on one occasion,
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  Speaker 3: on another occasion about the 86 47 fell apart as well.
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  Speaker 3: Letitia James, Adam Schiff in process. But those are mortgage
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  Speaker 3: fraud issues, which, again, the rest of us would pay for.
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  Speaker 3: But apparently, yeah, people in power, not such a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, we'll see what happens with this.
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  Speaker 2: It is very specific, like you said. And the fact
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  Speaker 2: that a judge signed off on a warrant really does
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  Speaker 2: say something.
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  Speaker 1: And again, it's if it's illegal, it's illegal.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like I understand that he's probably taking a
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  Speaker 2: lot of happiness in this. And by he, I mean
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump. But that doesn't make it wrong and that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't make it improper.
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  Speaker 3: So also she keeps having all sorts of tax issues.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Related issues because suddenly her husband's income at some point disappeared,
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  Speaker 3: didn't it? And like she re-reports things all the time.
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  Speaker 3: There's there's things happening over there. As I said, irregularities.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: What those look like to me.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of irregularities, James Tallarico had an extended break from
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  Speaker 2: the campaign trail. His last appearance was on September 30th.
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  Speaker 2: He did a online campaign.
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  Speaker 1: Event with the U.S. Hispanic Business Council and then did not.
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  Speaker 2: Reappear until three days ago, October 9th, completely out of
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  Speaker 2: public view. This has, of course, not been challenged whatsoever
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  Speaker 2: by anybody in the mainstream media.
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  Speaker 1: He says he has the flu.
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  Speaker 2: His campaign says that to the media sources. They report
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  Speaker 2: it with absolutely no scrutiny whatsoever. And of course, they
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  Speaker 2: add Republicans have been pouncing on this.
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  Speaker 1: Now, of course, an outlet called Just the.
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  Speaker 2: News released a story that Tallarico was at a mental
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  Speaker 2: health facility in Ohio. There was some recording of somebody
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  Speaker 2: at the other end of the phone at this mental
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  Speaker 2: health facility, maybe, saying he has been discharged.
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  Speaker 1: He is not here. He has been discharged, which maybe,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not.
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  Speaker 2: Again, this would all be a very questionable thing for
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  Speaker 2: this person. facility to do and for that information to
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  Speaker 2: get out.
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  Speaker 1: But who knows?
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  Speaker 2: And it looks like that story is not true. Tallarico says,
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  Speaker 2: I've never so much as been in Ohio. This is
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  Speaker 2: actually the greatest thing that could have happened to him, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because he spends 10 days out of view and now
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  Speaker 2: returns to a story that looks like it's not correct.
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  Speaker 1: Bad job.
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  Speaker 3: This is one of those situations where I think he
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  Speaker 3: did make himself vulnerable. I think the media was shilling
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  Speaker 3: for him on this nine day absence. I think something
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  Speaker 3: weird happened because it was normal, healthy adult male is
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  Speaker 3: not out of public sight. We're not talking events physically
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  Speaker 3: right out of sight for eight to nine days or
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  Speaker 3: nine ish days. That is odd. That's a flu has
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  Speaker 3: never put me out for eight days. childbirth has not
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  Speaker 3: put me beyond being seen in public for eight to
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  Speaker 3: 10 days. I can cluster enough to get on a
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  Speaker 3: Zoom if needed. Here's the thing. The right and whoever
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  Speaker 3: did this reporting gets way out over their skis on
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  Speaker 3: this idea, which is totally irresponsible and then neutralizes the
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  Speaker 3: issue when you could be asking him serious questions about it.
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  Speaker 3: But I do really dislike being gaslit about the idea
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  Speaker 3: that eight-day flu is totally normal when, and this is important,
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  Speaker 3: James Tallarico, if you are a Democrat, should be working
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  Speaker 3: harder than he has ever worked in his entire life
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  Speaker 3: in October of an election year where he is sort
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  Speaker 3: of like maybe even leading in the state of Texas.
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  Speaker 3: Why aren't y'all mad that he's at home?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing is that we can't trust this
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  Speaker 1: at all.
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  Speaker 2: Right. There's something very similar happened with Fetterman where he
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  Speaker 2: disappeared from the campaign trail.
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  Speaker 1: Now a U.S. senator.
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  Speaker 2: John Fetterman. In 2022, he disappeared from the campaign trail.
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  Speaker 2: He did admit to having a stroke, but there was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of questions about how well he was doing
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  Speaker 2: and if he was totally with it. His first interview
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  Speaker 2: after the stroke did not go great, even though everybody
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to pretend that it did. I think John
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  Speaker 2: Fetterman's fantastic now, but let's be real, there was some
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  Speaker 2: definite question marks there that went completely unchallenged by our
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  Speaker 2: Delightful media that just wants to help their guys win.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and as we've said with McConnell, as we've said
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  Speaker 3: with the New Jersey congressman who's a Republican who disappeared
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  Speaker 3: because of depression, you have to play it straight with people,
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  Speaker 3: especially after Biden. You have to tell people what's going
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  Speaker 3: on with you. In many cases, they're going to be like, OK,
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  Speaker 3: we understand. Now, I do think Tallarico, this is what
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  Speaker 3: makes me suspicious of it. Tallarico is in a plausibility game.
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  Speaker 3: He is a guy who looks kind of like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: he's a kid. Like, what does he know? Should he
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  Speaker 3: be a senator? And nonetheless, he's doing well. But I
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  Speaker 3: think if he did have some major weakness of some
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  Speaker 3: kind that put him out for eight days, people will go,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Can he take it? Can he take it?
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  Speaker 1: So I think.
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  Speaker 3: They're trying to avoid having that discussion. But if it
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  Speaker 3: indeed was a flu, like, I don't know, you need
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  Speaker 3: to suck it up and get on some Zooms.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe that for a second.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't believe it. I, you know, maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: not mental health.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's something else. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But the flu story, apparently he does have a form
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  Speaker 2: of diabetes. Even still, the flu story makes no sense.
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  Speaker 2: You and I have done this show completely sick, wiping
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  Speaker 2: our noses.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's Zoom. We're online. It's fine. You're going to
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  Speaker 1: just power through. If we were running for U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Senate in one of the most contentious races in the country,
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  Speaker 2: we wouldn't get on Zoom. We wouldn't get online and
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  Speaker 2: have events with our supporters. We wouldn't have fundraising events online.
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  Speaker 2: We would.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And nine days. is just an eternity, an October
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  Speaker 3: election year time. You should be putting in 16, at
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  Speaker 3: least hour days at that point, just jumping from place
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  Speaker 3: to place. And I understand if you slow down for
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  Speaker 3: a bit, but again, um, It does not seem plausible
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  Speaker 3: to me that nine days would be just a tough flu.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lot, a lot of days. And you should
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  Speaker 3: ask more from him than that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact that the media doesn't, it just, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it never, it does not end up helping them. I
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  Speaker 2: know they think they're helping. It does not end up
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  Speaker 2: helping them. It's not like the questions are going to
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  Speaker 2: stop now. And I get that there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: pressure for the questions to stop after this maybe mistaken reporting.
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  Speaker 1: Right. But they won't.
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  Speaker 2: There are a lot of good outlets on the conservative
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  Speaker 2: side who will be pursuing the story and not making
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  Speaker 2: this mistake. And you can't just dismiss them because you
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  Speaker 2: don't like the answers, because he clearly has something suspicious
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  Speaker 2: going on here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the formula for the mainstream media generally in tough
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  Speaker 3: campaigns is if a Democrat delays or is out of
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  Speaker 3: sight or a mystery for a longish period of time,
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  Speaker 3: Once they come back, they get full credit for having
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  Speaker 3: done the thing and reappeared. There's no issues with why
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  Speaker 3: it took so long. They just go, ha ha, you Republicans.
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  Speaker 3: There he is. He's at a fair.
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  Speaker 1: He's fine. He's fine.
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  Speaker 3: On the other hand, if you're a Republican and you
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  Speaker 3: disappear or don't do the right thing, you pay for
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  Speaker 3: the intervening time and get no credit for reappearing. That's
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: how that works on the other side. And I think
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: they should be treated equally. And then the incentive in
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  Speaker 3: too often on X or with alternative media, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: eat my words if any of this ends up being
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: accurate by some chance, the tendency is to find something
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: outlandish that gets you a ton of clicks to speculate
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  Speaker 3: about something that you don't really have the receipts for.
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  Speaker 3: And that turns out to his benefit as well.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And to all of our... Like, it's bad for the
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: whole environment because... Part of the reason we do normally
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: is because it's too much for y'all to pay attention
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: to the package and figure out what's real and what's not.
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  Speaker 3: So we try to do this for you because it's
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: our actual job. But man, even as your actual job,
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  Speaker 3: it's hard to keep up.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it's really tough. I think it was David Burge.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: He is Iowa Hawk blog on X. He had this
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  Speaker 1: quote that just is perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Journalism is about covering important stories with a pillow until
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  Speaker 2: they stop moving.
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  Speaker 3: That's correct. And again, they bought themselves this kind of
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  Speaker 3: cynicism with Sutterman and Biden, right? I don't believe you
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  Speaker 3: when you tell me, and I don't believe Tallarico when
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  Speaker 3: you tell me just this simple little story that cost
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  Speaker 3: you nine days in October of an election year. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're just not buying it. Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I get that the story that's out right now
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  Speaker 2: might not end up being true, but that doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: the story that the campaign is telling true.
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  Speaker 1: And we really need to be serious here. And Maybe
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  Speaker 1: get some good reporting on it. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to take a short break and be right
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  Speaker 1: back with more on Normally.
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  Speaker 2: We are back on Normally where Mayor Mamdani, who had
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  Speaker 2: a rough couple of days after daring to sympathize with
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  Speaker 2: any Jews at all on the third anniversary of October 7th,
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  Speaker 2: got torn apart by his own squad who, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they chanted at him, Mamdani, Mamdani, you can't hide.
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  Speaker 1: We charge you with genocide.
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  Speaker 2: Just showing how meaningful the term genocide has become.
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  Speaker 1: I quite enjoyed that.
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  Speaker 2: But in New York, he finally got to revert to
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  Speaker 2: form because a criminal illegal migrant was shot by ICE
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  Speaker 2: in the Bronx. And it's quite a doozy because this
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  Speaker 2: guy is Nobody that you want to be having in
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  Speaker 2: our country. And yet Mamdani and every other leftist politician
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  Speaker 2: in New York is.
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  Speaker 1: Super psyched to get Oscar Bilgal.
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  Speaker 2: 28, to remain in this country, despite the fact that
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  Speaker 2: he has been terrorizing a Washington Heights apartment building where
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  Speaker 2: he lived and has just been a general problem.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the reasons that this incident with ICE
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  Speaker 3: officers escalated is because he's known to have fled from
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  Speaker 3: police before. So this is a situation where you're already
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  Speaker 3: in a heightened state. One of the complaints about this
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  Speaker 3: interaction is, of course, that he had a child with
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  Speaker 3: him to which... Homeland Department Homeland Security Secretary Mullen said
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  Speaker 3: in a press conference, like, you know who knew who
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  Speaker 3: he had a kid with him? He did. This guy.
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  Speaker 3: We did not know that. But here I don't think
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  Speaker 3: he asserted that they didn't know that it was still
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  Speaker 3: part of the investigation. He knew he had a child
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  Speaker 3: and he's putting that child in danger. He's the child
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  Speaker 3: is not harmed, but still like a scary situation. And
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  Speaker 3: we don't want to have that. Sure. But yes, he's
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  Speaker 3: fled police before, which sets up a situation where this
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  Speaker 3: is escalating. Again, if you were not in a sanctuary
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  Speaker 3: state or city, this man would have been handed over
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  Speaker 3: through a detainer, probably in a police or jail facility.
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  Speaker 3: There would have been no inclusion of children or anyone
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  Speaker 3: in the public. And that does, whether you, I don't
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: care if you think sanctuary cities are just dandy, you
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  Speaker 3: have to recognize the downside, which is that these things
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: become inherently more dangerous for both cops. And the perpetrators.
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  Speaker 1: They just don't care. It's like it makes no difference.
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  Speaker 2: And so this segment is actually our blue areas be
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: blue airing.
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  Speaker 3: They really do.
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  Speaker 1: Until we think of another name.
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  Speaker 2: But this is just a latest example of they want
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  Speaker 2: this criminal to remain in their city. They're like, no,
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  Speaker 2: we need this guy. We need this criminal who has,
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  Speaker 2: you know, tortured people.
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  Speaker 1: To remain in our city.
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  Speaker 2: And just because he has a kid with him, the
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  Speaker 2: ICE agents were supposed to, what, let him go? So
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  Speaker 2: that every single illegal migrant now starts having a child
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  Speaker 2: with them to protect them against being deported?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on.
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  Speaker 3: And Mark Wayne Mullen also made the point, I think deftly,
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  Speaker 3: that just days before, in the weeks before, an off-duty
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  Speaker 3: NYPD officer had been stabbed seven times by two illegal immigrants.
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  Speaker 3: They later apprehended those guys, I think, in Massachusetts. There
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  Speaker 3: was a press conference for him. Right. Nobody cared. He's
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  Speaker 3: not in the hierarchy of intersectionality that gets a press
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  Speaker 3: conference because people are concerned that he was stabbed. And
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Mamdani doesn't, is not interested in doing statements on that situation. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And the idea that a documented, convicted, fleeing cops, abusive
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  Speaker 3: criminal would rank higher than the off-duty NYPD guy who's, who's,
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  Speaker 3: Stabbed seven times is appalling to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just sad, sad state of affairs in my
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  Speaker 2: old beloved city, because I don't feel like this would
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  Speaker 2: have been the case 10 years ago. I don't feel
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  Speaker 2: like this would have been the case 15 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: This is just it is a new insanity that has
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  Speaker 2: gripped the city and it's tough to watch.
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  Speaker 3: And I think also there's room to say, oh, I
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  Speaker 3: want to preserve due process for this person without saying
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  Speaker 3: he is a credit to this great city and we
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  Speaker 3: must have him here forever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Those are two different things.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Another story out of a blue area.
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  Speaker 2: A toddler girl is fighting for her life in Providence,
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  Speaker 2: Rhode Island, after being stabbed in the face by a
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  Speaker 2: stranger at a bus stop.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a headline from Daily Mail.
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  Speaker 2: Who cops say was previously ruled unfit to stand trial,
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  Speaker 2: and here's the best part, after stabbing two other children.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: So this guy stabs two kids, can't stand trial, is
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: let back out, and stabs another kid. I mean, what
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: total number of kids do we need stabbed before this
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: guy is sent to prison?
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: The story is horrifying, and I'm praying for this little toddler.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: The mom and the toddler clocked him. She was waiting
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: for her other children at a bus stop. Not more children.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: So maybe he knows where they get off the bus.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: And she ran away from him and cleared cleared the
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: area and he followed them to attack them. It's horrifying.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: And I don't I don't know what comes next. Like
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: you can't just let him out. And yet that's what
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: the plan seems to be in all of these places.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I don't understand how you could be unfit to stand trial,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: but somehow fit to walk our streets.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Like how does that work? It can't be both.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: If you're unfit to stand trial for stabbing a child
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: in the face, you're not unfit to be back at
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: that bus stop.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're not fit enough to be back at
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: that bus stop.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Also, Carol, we noted we noted last week the homecoming
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: game shooting Friday Night Lights Somali gang. uh, activity, uh,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: at a homecoming game between Edina, which I mispronounced last time.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: So sorry, Minnesotans and Eden Prairie, which is like a
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: pretty affluent, uh, mostly Democrat suburban area. Since that time,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: we have a development, which is that the man accused
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: of shooting two people at that game is out after
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: posting bond. So taking care of that one too.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm, I just don't understand.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: And the thing is, I've always been against a national divorce.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: But how do we live side by side when some
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: of us want to lock up child face stabbers and
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: some of us don't? And I don't know how that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: is supposed to go. I think we used to agree
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: on the basics, like, like, you know, anybody who opens
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: fire at a high school football game stays in prison.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And now we just can't get there.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Also, do you ever think about what you've done in
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: your life? and all the decisions you made where you
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: were like, hey, I could get that easy money by fraud,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure I'd get in trouble. And it
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: turns out, yeah, I guess people don't get in trouble
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: in a lot of places.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Right. They just do it and nothing happens to them.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: And it's hard for regular law abiding people to watch
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: that happen because it feels so galling. Like I, you know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: get up every day and go to my job and
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: work nine to five and all of that, and somebody
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: else is stealing money and getting.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Away with it, it's hard for Americans to watch that.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels very much like the whole pitch from
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: the Obama era was, oh, you work hard, you play
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: by the rules, but these people have been taking advantage
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: of you. Yeah. It feels like there was a whole
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: system put in place in those years to not play
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: by the rules and make a bunch of money off
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: of it. And terrorize other people and never be punished.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: And the rest of us are like, oh, yeah, I
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: guess we have to keep doing our part.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: And it's like we've gotten to where we can now
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: spot that when I read like a budget or something
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: or funding for anything. And they like are funding, you know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: nonprofits or NGOs or whatever.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: You just know that's a scamopolis.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Like it is just it is there to enforce the
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: scam to make sure their friends get paid.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: It's really tough. I don't know. I don't know where
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: we go from here.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I also do think that the alternative media, although as
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: we have talked about its weaknesses on this program, on
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: this very program, it is helpful that there is a
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: force that can say, OK, let's actually find out what
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: the guy involved in this ICE incident did. Let's contextualize
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: who this person is. And that happens fairly quickly so
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: that people can have the full information in a way
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: that it didn't used to so quickly.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Because this one happened in New York, there's also my
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: beloved New York Post. They are obviously all over this story,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: have all the details, and are just doing a great
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: job on the news side covering this. And if it
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: happened somewhere else, I think it would be only conservative
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: media looking into it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Another bummer segment.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: We're working on it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: We're trying to cheer you guys up. We're trying.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: We'll do better on the next one. We're going to
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: take a short break and be right back with more
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: on Normally.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: All right, we are back on Normally with a slightly
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: cheerier third segment about comedy. Shane Gillis was on Saturday
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Night Live again, the comic who is... Look, he's one
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: of these guys who's right-coded, but the left.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: But he's not.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Of thinking that he's a right-winger, and he's not a right-winger. He's...
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: If they were smart, they would look at him and go, huh,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: he has some real issues with Trump. He's a credible
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: public figure and speaker on these subjects. He's not particularly political.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: He appeals to a bunch of working class dudes across
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: the entire country who are now drinking Budweiser again. He
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: took that cross and carried it and rehabbed that brand.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: And they would go crazy. He seems cool, except that's
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: not what they do.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I've seen him in his show in person.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: And I believe on the text that you, me and
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Bridget Phetasy and Bethany Mandela are on, I said, I
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: just want you guys to know this.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: He is not a conservative. He is lib to moderate.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Like that is where he is. Maybe he's just a.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: More apolitical kind of guy, but he is no right winger.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: He is no Trumper. Like that is completely off.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think he is. He's he's merely sympathetic to
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: like he's sort of again, he's coded, right? He looks
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: like a guy, as he did, who grew up in Philly,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: who likes to watch football, who played football, who drinks
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Bud Light. Like that's what he is. But let's play
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: a little bit of Shane Gillis's monologue, which has the
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: woke folks mad. It's about him going to the gym.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Also, I haven't been to the gym in so long.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: I didn't know women just dress like whores now. Look,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. There's no other way to describe.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Have you seen it?
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I've seen it. The shorts. Have you seen the shorts?
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Those neon, they're like the only, they're like artificial bait colored.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: The wrinkles, the wrinkles go like around the cheeks and
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: all combine at the butthole. And don't look. You're not
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: allowed to look. For real, don't look because they are filming.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I'm in the background of like 10 TikToks right now.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the reasons he's right coded, by the way,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: is that he can pull something like artificial bait colored.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: And like all of us know what that is. Talking
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: about the gym shorts. He's being accused of like horrendous
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: misogyny for this bit. Come on.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: You know, like seriously, this is so tame. I don't understand.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I really thought he did something wild when I saw
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the headlines.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Came back from the weekend like, oh, what did Shane
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Gillis do? That's it? Like, yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: You thought you were going to click on something really scandalous.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: And it turns out it's just like a normal stand up.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Again, let me tell you at his live show, like
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: for his last joke.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I wanted to put my fingers in my ears and
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: not listen to it. I cannot even tell you what
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: it's about because it's so, so bad.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: And I mean, people were rolling and I was just like, no,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: make it stop. Yeah.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, he is a guy who takes some risks.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I think on SNL, largely, he's quite well behaved. He,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: of course, was in the peak woke years supposed to
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: become a cast member at SNL. And they ditched him
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: because of old bits and old tweets that they thought
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: were problematic. They've since had him back several times because
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: it turns out he's really good and he's quite successful.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: And his sort of thumbing the nose at the political
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: correctness made him more popular and made him this huge
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: arena comic over the past years. And when he is on,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: the skits are good because he does release them from
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: some of this need to be so precious about everything.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Totally.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: He lets them he gives them permission to laugh at everything.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Like whatever you find funny, that's OK. And that's kind
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: of the Shane Gillis vibe.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: It's OK to take.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Things to certain boundaries you didn't want them taken to.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: But, you know, if it's funny, it's funny. And that's
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: all that matters.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I will recommend if you guys want to look it up,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: the HVAC segment is one such segment that indulges in
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: some funny stereotypes and probably problematic thoughts. And it's very
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: funny as a result.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Problematic thoughts. That's what it's all about.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Problematic thoughts.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on Normally Normally airs Tuesdays and Thursdays, and.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: You can subscribe anywhere you get your podcasts.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Get in touch with us at normallythepod at gmail.com.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. And when things get weird, act normally.