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David Kaplan talks Chicago Sports, John Bohnenkamp on the Hawkeyes & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Our number 2, Mallory Condon, welcome back and glad you're
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with us. We'll talk sports with you for
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another hour. Tune things over at the top of
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the hour. Off the bench come Sean Roberts
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and Lucas train. They will take you until 5.
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Bottom of the hour, John Bowen, camp, Associated Press, Iowa
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college hoops.com. We'll recap with John.
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Couple of things. Obviously the Iowa, Robert
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Moore's game last night, a little World Series
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conversation. Let him gloat a little bit about
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his Dodgers. It's time for the cap man,
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though. Off to Chicago we go.
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ESPN 1000 and Caps YouTube channel Hello Cap, how are you?
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I'm doing awesome. I'm doing great.
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The weather's nice, a little chilly for my taste, but the sun
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is shining and the bulls are 6 and one and the bears are five
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and three. Trying to get the six to three.
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All's good. Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, The Bulls are a surprise so far, but I don't go back to
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the biggest surprise, at least late in the early window on
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Sunday afternoon. That was the comeback.
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I mean, what a final couple of minutes of that football game.
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So you're watching the game, Cap.
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Obviously, you had to believe, like most of the country did,
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that. Oh, my God, the Bears are going
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to let this one get away. Cincinnati.
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Flacco is going to do it to them.
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What's going through your mind in the final couple of minutes,
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Cap? I'm guessing in a roller coaster
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of emotions. So I'm watching the game with my
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son and, you know, so many friends of mine go and I get
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invites, all if you want to go to the game.
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Absolutely not. The last time I saw the Chicago
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Bears play at Soldier Field 2001, and people are just blown
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away by that. They're like, what?
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Well, I was always in the studio doing TV and once I gave that
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up, I got a great set up in my basement.
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It's my job, so it's business. I got A5 TV set up with the
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games all go. It's like my own sports book.
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Like why would I want to go make that trek down the Soldier
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Field? No shot.
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I am going to see them at Lambeau in a few weeks, December
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7th. I've seen them there before.
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I've been to see them in Jacksonville and in Kansas City,
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I think. But my point of the whole thing
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is like I'm locked in on every game, every second, I'm taking
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notes, I'm doing the whole deal and now they're going to try A2
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point conversion. And I said to myself, why would
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you go for two here? Why wouldn't you make it a 7
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point game? Of course they make the two.
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Now I'm terrified. If they get the onside kick now
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they can beat us. This is horrible.
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And they get the onside kick. And I saw it clear as day.
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I'm watching the ball and I see it hit Daniel Hardy's foot and
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I'm like, Daniel, I understand your job is to be engaged with a
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blocker. That's how you're taught.
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You're taught. You just engage that guy right
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there. But you got to have some
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self-awareness, man. You got to look down and go, oh,
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oh, balls coming my way. Boom, right off his leg.
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They recover. And as soon as they recovered, I
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knew Flacco was going to score. Absolutely, 1000% was convinced
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they're going to score. They do.
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They kick the extra point, we're down.
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I was not devastated. I was kind of stunned that we
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put ourselves in that position, but I knew Caleb Williams was
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taking us down to get a field goal, but I didn't know if we'd
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make it because our special teams were horrible.
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And so that's not a shot at Cairo as much as bad snap or
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this or that. Something's going to go wrong
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here because special teams had a horrible day.
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And then Caleb drops a dime in between four guys and Colston
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Love into the house. Holy cow was that cool.
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There was a lot of yelling. I used a word that my 10 year
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old asked and I said I I fish was what I said.
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I didn't actually say fish when I was hollering at the TV after
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they touched down. They did it.
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Special teams. It started at the beginning of
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the game. Charlie Jones runs by and back
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almost ended with an on side Richard Hightower.
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He was the only coordinator that was retained by Ben Johnson.
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Got to got to feel like he's maybe got a pretty short leash
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after that performance out of the special teams and kind of
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what we've seen in many parts of the season.
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You know, ironically, I am driving right now, this second,
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I'm passing Charlie Jones High School.
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He went to Deerfield High School where my kids went, and that kid
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brings it back first thing. It pops in my mind.
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Remember the movie Any Given Sunday?
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Remember in the first playoff game they won, then they got
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knocked out, and then he left to go run that new team in
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Albuquerque, NM and that first one, the opening kickoff, they
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took back. And immediately in my mind, I'm
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thinking of Al Pacino when he goes.
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Nobody said we're going to win by shutout.
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We're good. It's only 7, nothing.
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So that's how I rationalized it in my mind.
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We end up offensively having a great day.
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Caleb plays really, really well. But the defense not good.
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The special teams worst. Somehow, someway, you had to
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find a way to win a football game and they did, absolutely.
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Did five and three right now. Here come the Giants on Sunday.
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You'll watch it at home. We know that already.
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So this is a winnable football game cap and six and three looks
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like a pretty good spot as far as yeah, they've still got a lot
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of work to do, obviously. And the schedule does get
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significantly tougher, I think looking at it.
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But six and three, if they can find, do they need to find four
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more? Just do you need to win 10?
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I think you do. I think, well, did you finish
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nine and eight and you've cleaned up the culture to the
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degree that looks like they have?
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And I was talking to Kevin Byard last night.
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We did a show together. He said, he said you can't
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imagine how different the culture is around here.
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He said this, this man is like an assassin, Ben Johnson, like
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he is all in 24/7. And he said he was sitting at
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their team meeting on what's today, Wednesday.
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On Monday, they had a team meeting.
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CJ Gardner Johnson's been there with them one game.
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He's been there like 4 or five days.
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And he said, Ben Johnson said, OK, let's next guy, next team
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up, force him to quit. Let's dominate him.
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That's how I want to take the field.
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And he said CJ Gardner Johnson, who's like Dennis Rodman, like a
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maniac, He's been on a handful of teams because he's a little
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crazy. He said, oh wow, this is the
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best guy I've ever played for. I love this guy.
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He's an absolute animal. That's what Ben Johnson is.
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He is an animal about how they prepare, how they play.
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There's no let downs with this team.
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That doesn't mean they can't have a bad game.
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They did Detroit, they rallied. But yeah, I'm really excited
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about this opportunity. You've got to run the football
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more than you did last week although.
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Menon Guy was terrific. He was great, but I'm not saying
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you're going to get 280 yards rushing.
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That's rare. But you have to run it in terms
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of number of carries because they've got Brian Burns, Abdul
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Carter, Kaylin Thibodeau can all rush the passer at an elite
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level. I think Burns has 11 sacks
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really tough. That means you got to run right
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at him. You can't let him pin his ears
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back and try and sack the quarterback.
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So if you use the run a lot, you can then use Caleb and his
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ability to get plays in the passing game down the field.
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So my prediction is that the Bears are going to run the ball
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a ton at the Giants got a block, Dexter Lawrence, That's not an
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easy task, the nose guard, but that's going to allow Caleb to
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have deep shots. I'm talking deep shots that they
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may be able to score on. To that culture point, I saw
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interview with Zacchaeus who's also played for a lot of
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organizations during his career, I think 4 different ones over
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the last six years. So he's been around the league
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and talks about setting the standard.
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We hear so much about this culture, how different it is.
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You see the the post game locker room speech by Ben Johnson and
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everybody fired up and everybody engaged with it.
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Yet it's still an undisciplined team.
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When you look at the penalties, you look at just some of the the
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boneheaded mistakes that they make.
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How do you marry those two? Because like you said, it does
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feel different. Yet there's still some of the
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mistakes that, well, plenty of the dumb Bears teams of the past
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have made. Yeah, that's a very good
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question. I think that they are getting
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better in terms of the penalties are one thing, but understanding
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your assignments, playing with your hair on fire, those things
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have become, there's only one way that's how we're going to
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play or you're not going to play here.
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Some of the pre snap penalties, look, you've got a offensive
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line unit. Theo Benedict, he wasn't even on
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the team last year. He was on injured reserve.
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You didn't have Joe Tooney, you didn't have Drew Dahlman, you
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didn't have Jonah Jackson, you did have Darnell, right?
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They're trying to come together as a unit.
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Caleb's trying to learn this really complex offense, his
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cadence, those new guys, it's all different.
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You got a rookie running back this week or this past week.
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I don't know if he'll start again.
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We'll hear on DeAndre Swift probably today, so some of that
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can be understood, but no excuses, man.
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You've got to clean the penalties up.
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They were a little bit better this week.
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They've got to be even better on Sunday.
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They have to be. That's a game you've got to
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have. I'm sorry, they're two and seven
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in your building. They don't have neighbors.
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They don't have Scatabo. That's a game you cannot lose.
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You have to have it. The Bears were one of the teams
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that went out and did something at the trade deadline.
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What can you tell us about Joe Tryon Shokinku?
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So he was the 32nd pick in the first round, I believe, out of
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Washington. He's OK.
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He's a depth piece. You know, I was asking a
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baseball GM about the trade deadline and I said, do you have
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guys that you could pick up the phone?
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They go, hey, man, I need a fifth starter.
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Hey, man, I need a bullpen arm and what do you need?
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And you give him a prospect and it looks on the service like,
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wow, they helped you out big time, he said.
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Because if I'm up the track, if I have a good relationship with
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that GM, I'm going to do the same thing for him.
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Oh, you need a fifth outfielder? Just throw me a Class A guy.
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Here you go. And don't forget me three years
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from now, if I'm in the race and you're not, I want the same type
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of treatment back. He said people don't understand
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that because they want to kill you in every deal.
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They want to win every deal. He said if you kill people in
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every trade, you're going to find out they're going to stop
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A, trading with you and B, you're never going to get
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anybody to help you when you really need it.
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Hey, man, can you help me with a pass rusher?
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I can't give you a high pick. Just give me somebody.
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I got a little cap room, I'll take the money and they help
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you. And I wouldn't be shocked if two
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years from now, Ryan Polls said, hey, I'm making a trade with the
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Cleveland Browns and I'm sending this guy because we were
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probably going to end up having to release him.
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So I'm helping the Browns out. That wouldn't shock me.
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That's how business gets done. We were just having a
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conversation on the Chiefs with our guy Nick App, and he was
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saying that Brett Veach, he's running into that right now
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because he's won every trade and there were only two teams that
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would engage with him at trade talks.
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And I think that goes hand in hand with what you're saying.
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Point. That's an excellent point.
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Yeah, well, they wanted Breece Hall and they were seriously
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involved on Breece Hall because the Bears made some calls on it
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and they offered a fourth round pick for Breece Hall and The
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Jets said Nope, it's a third round pick if you want them.
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In the end, Brett Beach waited right up to the deadline
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thinking they were going to give us the 4th.
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He's a friend. They said sorry, good luck to
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you, hope you win in the playoffs and they wouldn't trade
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him. They set a price.
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Good for them and by your by your what you said I.
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Think that's a misstep on their part.
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That's too bad. Anyways, By who?
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By by who? By the Chiefs not not giving up
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a four. I mean, you've given up a three.
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I think Bruce Hall is a difference maker.
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That's the missing part for for the Chiefs.
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They get a running back of his ilk that makes them and it just
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takes them up. Makes them even better in my
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opinion. Yeah, The thing is, if you're
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the GM of The Jets and you give in, why the next time they just
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not think you're going to give in again.
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You'll blink. Yup.
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You'll blink. You'll blink, you'll blink.
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Cap 3 weeks ago whatever was when the when the Cubs season
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and we started, you know, discussing what they may look
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like next year. You thought, you know what, I'm
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not sure sure that the Cubs are going to that Imanaga will be a
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Cub in 2026. You were spot on.
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He's not going to be a Cub in 2026, is he?
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No, I mean they could offer him a qualifying offer, but the
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qualifying offer will be more than what he would have gotten
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had they picked up his option now.
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The option guaranteed him three years, not just one.
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So there is a little difference, but the average annual value of
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the contract will be more if you give him a qualifying offer and
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he accepts it. But what I'm being told if they
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give him the qualifying offer, he's going to reject it and try
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and get more guaranteed money over more years.
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So I'm pretty confident when he's thrown his last pitch.
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Here's the deal on this. If, if they take the money that
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they save the 15,000,000 that his option would have paid him
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this coming year and they traded away the 9 million of Andrew
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Kittredge, it was a $1 million buyout.
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So let's call it A1 billion dollar saving and now you add
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that together and you have a few other veterans, 6,000,000 off
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Justin Turner being one of them. All of a sudden you should if
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you're not signing Kyle Tucker and I don't think they're going
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to. I want to hear you playing in
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the deep end of the pool for pitching, whether that is Framer
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Valdez, Dylan Cease, there's a bunch of guys out there that you
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can go get. I want 2 starting pitchers.
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Like I listed all their starters yesterday.
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They've got eight guys that I'm not saying that would be in
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their rotation. They have 8 guys that could make
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a start for you. Obviously Jameson Dione,
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obviously Cade Horton, Matthew Boyd, Colin Ray.
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Jordan Wicks is on their roster. Javier Assad is 6.
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They're going to bring up Jackson Wiggins eventually.
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It's seven. I think he pitches here this
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coming season. Justin Steele is going to be
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back maybe June 1 thereabouts. So all of a sudden you got a
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plethora of quality arms. I got to go get at least one if
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not 2, probably 1 high end starter and then one Matthew
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Boyd type guy where I'm like OK now I have no need to rush
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Justin Steele back, no need to rush Wiggins up.
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That's where I'm at. After that, you still have the
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bullpen to figure out and Kittridge gets traded to
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Baltimore. Keller, Pomerantz, Steel Bar.
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All those guys are impending free agents.
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Really the only high leverage guy from the playoff run is what
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we saw from Palenci on the back end.
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We'll see what part of Hodge develops into Ben Brown is a
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bullpen or starter for for him. What do you anticipate here?
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There are some big names in the bullpen that are going to be a
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free agents that they could sign.
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Are they going to go big fish hunting here or is it going to
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be more old veteran? Give it a shot, take a group of
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guys and and see what you get build.
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How does this bullpen come together?
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I don't think they're a big game hunting bullpen crew.
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I just don't think Jed, Theo, you know, all the guys in that
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tree, I don't think they believe in that.
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They'll acquire 1 during the season and then cut ties quick.
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Or all this Chapman, Wade Davis they acquired for one year.
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Who's the kid that we had that was always hurt?
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Brandon Morrow, types of guys. Craig Kimbrel who they brought
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in mid season. That's more their MO, not hey,
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Josh Hader for five and 100. No, we're not doing it.
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Or Edwin Diaz or any. I don't see the Cubs doing that
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because philosophically, I don't think they believe in it.
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And now they'll say to you, why should we give Brad Keller?
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Let's call it, I'm hearing 3 for 30 is the projection.
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Why should we give Brad Keller 3 for 30?
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Let's go find the next Brad Keller that we signed on a minor
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league deal, get him in our pitch lab, and all of a sudden
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he becomes Brad Keller, who was really, really good for us.
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So that's where I think they're going to go.
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Could I see a veteran signing? Could I see Field Bar back here
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as a lefty specialist? Maybe.
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I'll be surprised if they sign Keller and I like him, but I'll
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be surprised if they give him 30 or 40 million guaranteed
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dollars. That will surprise me.
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Good stuff, Cap Appreciate it. As always.
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We will talk to you in a in a week's time.
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Thank you, Capper. I look forward to it.
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I would call it hoops.com. Associated Press Basketball in a
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moment. Yes.
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Congratulations. Yeah, as I told Trent off off
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air, it was not a championship. This was a coronation.
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That was you should have a great time.
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Not only did they have all the money in the world, but then
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they have to be so arrogant on top of it.
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Come on, Boeing camp. Really.
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We are the evil empire. We are Jr.
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Heaping. We are, you know, Ewing Oil.
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So I'm more than happy with what we've done.
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Have you were you impressed at all by the team that they
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dispatched in extra innings in Game 7?
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Oh, yeah. You know, I, I, because the
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funniest thing is I watch the game, but I also have the game
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cast that, that MLB does on MLB.com.
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And just to see where pitches are and all that.
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And it shows the box score and it shows the, the, the, you
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know, the batting averages for those guys in the post season.
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And there was not a bad guy in that line, you know, And I mean,
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I think back to the NLCS when, when the Brewers were there, I
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was looking at lineup and like, well, when they get past this
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guy, there's four or five guys that aren't a problem.
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Right. You know, I mean, that was the
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difference. And you know, and the other
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thing is too about these playoffs is with the Phillies,
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Brewers and Blue Jays, they were all likeable teams.
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There was nothing I didn't like about them.
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I like their managers. I like the way those guys
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played. It was, you know, you with the
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Padres you hate. I mean, that's, that's just, you
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know, that's just that just the territory.
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But but you know, with these teams, I was like, I didn't hate
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him. It was like it was fun baseball.
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In my mind, it really was. It was great for baseball, I
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think. I think baseball had a great
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month of October, personally. We should have ended
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differently. But to the winner go the spoils.
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Congratulations, John. We are America's We are
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America's team now. Kirk Behrens even referenced
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them yesterday. So anyway, anyway.
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Well, there's one guy to certainly celebrate.
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Jack Dreyer, the Johnston Kid, the Iowa Hawk guy and another
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world championship. And I saw they had a graphic
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from Big 10 Network and it was Dave Roberts.
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What, UCLA? There was another.
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Oh, Mark Pryor. Mark Pryor, USC.
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Yeah. And then a real Big 10 guy and
22:14
Jack Dreyer. Those are the only three with
22:15
Big 10 affiliations. So they claimed the other two.
22:17
Yes, they didn't. They absolutely put them in
22:19
there. Put them in there.
22:20
All right, let's get into basketball.
22:22
Last night, we opened the show with this John and this Iowa
22:26
basketball team. We watched a lot of Drake last
22:28
year. We knew.
22:29
And yet it felt like maybe Ken and I were a little bit tepid,
22:33
skeptical. Yeah, got to see it.
22:35
A portion of the fan base, probably that way.
22:38
It's one game against Robert Morris.
22:40
However, boy, that was different.
22:43
Yeah, it was fun, you know, and I mean, I, you know, he went
22:47
with a line up last night. That starting line up was that
22:50
was familiarity to him. You know, I mean, four of those
22:53
guys were former Drake players and and then you had Cooper Koch
22:56
in there and they started so well.
22:59
I mean, it was a 17 two run to open the game and that place
23:03
got, you know, the I mean, there was there was that was a decent
23:06
crowd for I mean, it was 99000, you know, and I mean it was kind
23:10
of a late arriving crowd. I was a little worried, but it
23:14
was a lot. It got loud and it was kind of
23:16
fun and it was fun to watch him play.
23:18
It was fun to watch him play defense.
23:20
I mean, there was a lot of time. They got a couple shot clock
23:22
violations. They forced some bad shots late
23:26
in the shot clock. It was just really fun
23:29
atmosphere. Now second-half, you know, it
23:31
kind of got a little stagnant there a little bit, but but but
23:35
for a 40 minute game and that was as good of opening night
23:39
performance as you would want for this program now in this new
23:43
era. The defensive intensity, just
23:45
something we haven't experienced watching Hawkeye basketball for,
23:49
you know, the last decade. It was great to see John.
23:51
That was my biggest take away with this, Trent said.
23:54
We saw a lot of Drake last year. Sure you did as well.
23:57
You, you, you knew what to expect in a way when you're, you
24:00
know, playing teams that in the Missouri Valley Conference,
24:02
admittedly, but we we saw that with our own two eyes at Carver
24:07
Hawkeye Arena. And I expect we'll see that a
24:09
whole lot more coming up in the winter months.
24:11
And it was great to see. Yeah.
24:13
I mean, these are all, I mean, the guys that came with him,
24:16
we're all really solid basketball players
24:19
fundamentally. They hustle.
24:21
They did you again play defense, which you know you really want
24:24
to see. And so like I said, you saw a
24:27
lot of good things out of them. I say again, there's some things
24:30
they're going to have to work on.
24:31
But I think what you saw last night was this was a good team
24:34
that if you fix, need to clean some things up, could be a very
24:37
good team once you get into Big 10 play.
24:40
So I think it was a surprise. We didn't see fool Garris in the
24:43
starting line up. We also didn't see Hassan out
24:46
there who I think we're, I don't know.
24:49
I think I had both those guys in pen that were going to be
24:51
starters, not first. Off the bench, Hassan, I'm not.
24:53
Sure. No, he was, I think late.
24:56
Yeah, he was way down there. He was like the 9th or 10th guy
24:59
off the bench. I.
25:00
Thought he was. You look at this now, found out,
25:04
Bennett, Sturt says. They don't know until they're
25:06
getting ready to go on the floor who's going to start.
25:08
It's something that Mccullum's always done, wants to have
25:10
everybody on their toes, everybody ready, engaged and
25:12
ready to go. But is it something to be said
25:15
about both of those guys, anticipated starters?
25:17
Is it just the understanding of what he wants in the Drake guys?
25:20
What do you kind of go into that starting lineup?
25:21
I know it's about who finishes who, not who starts.
25:24
But it's fun hearing your name called on these starting
25:26
lineups. Yeah, and he did say last night
25:29
he did say that that this was the starting lineup for that
25:32
game. It could be different Friday
25:34
night. It could be different next week
25:36
against Xavier. You know, with with Fulgaris,
25:39
you know, he's made some kind of references to him that he's real
25:42
good that there's sometimes where he maybe kind of takes
25:44
some things off. And you know, and then with
25:47
Austin, he kind of handed the other day, he said some of our
25:51
really good shooters aren't there are best defenders.
25:54
So, you know, again, there's there's probably some things
25:56
there. And so he's trying to figure out
25:58
a way where to where to work them in.
26:00
And I think and so again, the way they were used last night, I
26:04
thought worked very well. You know, eventually full
26:07
Garrison gets into the starting line up.
26:09
I really think that at the same time it all goes back there.
26:12
Well, how many minutes are they going to log during a game?
26:15
And, and I, and I think you know both of them, both of them will
26:19
see their time as the season goes on.
26:22
Any more on basketball? Trent football press conferences
26:26
yesterday. Back to the gridiron this week,
26:28
Here comes Oregon. John, this the build up for this
26:31
game. It's been a while at least I
26:34
kind of get that feeling since, yeah, the the Penn State game,
26:37
etcetera. But there's so much to play for
26:39
now that we're into the month of November for this Hawkeye team.
26:43
It just feels like we're on the cusp of a pretty big spot. 2:30
26:47
afternoon, Kinnock Stadium. Well, now you're in position,
26:51
you know, you're 20th in the CFP rankings.
26:53
You're you know, if you win on Saturday, you're going to get
26:56
into the national polls, both of them.
26:59
I mean, you're in the coaches one now.
27:01
This is a big moment for them because it again, you've built
27:05
to this point now can you take it to that next step?
27:08
And so, and again, this is a really good Oregon team coming
27:12
in. There's a lot of excitement
27:14
about this game. And I, and I think if you would
27:16
have told me 4 weeks ago, 5 weeks ago that there would be, I
27:19
would have been really skeptical.
27:21
But they put themselves, they have put themselves into the
27:24
spot They've had that they've had the off week to prepare.
27:28
I will, I think they will come out and play a very good
27:32
football game. And I don't see any reason why
27:34
they couldn't win the game. This Oregon team is talented,
27:39
they are young in some spots including quarterback or Dante
27:41
Moore and and he looked through Kurt talked about a couple of
27:44
their freshman defensive lineman who look impressive.
27:47
These numbers though, just absolutely left off the page to
27:50
me with Oregon. All right, 4 running backs, all
27:53
four guys 250 or more yards this year.
27:55
He'll take a look. 7.4 per carry.
27:58
Let me finish 3.9 for Davison. Whittington 3.8, Lamar 3.8.
28:04
That is yards after contact, not yards per carry, yards after
28:08
contact. These guys run hard.
28:10
They run in space and Iowa, they played much better defensively.
28:14
But they have to tackle, They have to wrap up and not let that
28:17
play. That's going to go for six, go
28:19
for 10. And they're also going to have
28:21
to be really good up front because I think this is a really
28:23
good Oregon offensive line. And it's like if you get these
28:26
running backs ahead of Steam, then they are pretty hard to
28:29
bring down. So again, it's going to have to
28:31
take a total defensive front and back.
28:34
And so that is going to be to me to me, the key on Saturday is
28:39
how can they control the line on both sides of the ball.
28:41
And if they can do that, they have a really good chance of
28:44
winning this game. But you can't let them get a
28:46
newer rhythm, especially in the running game.
28:48
You know you can't let them dominate the line because at
28:51
that point you're, you're chasing them the rest of the
28:53
day. Back-to-back former PAC 12 teams
28:56
lie ahead with the trip out to USC next week is of the two
29:01
John, I mean it's it's Oregon. Where were they ranked 7th
29:04
yesterday and whatever they were in in the in the playoff
29:08
rankings, they're top ten team and then USC they're in the top
29:11
25. Is next week more difficult just
29:14
because of the trip out West? I mean, it's been such a bugaboo
29:18
for ferrets. Yeah, they never, they for
29:21
whatever reason, they've never solved that problem.
29:23
And so that's why I think this week is so important because if
29:28
you drop this one, that puts a lot more pressure on next week.
29:32
And you know, if you get this one, then you want to go get
29:35
next week. It's going to be a tough place
29:37
to play. It's a tough trip.
29:38
It always is. You are playing in the City of
29:41
Champions, so you can take something off that.
29:44
But but no, I seriously, I mean, I do think this is, this really
29:48
is the next two weeks really set up for what the post season
29:52
looks like for them. And that's what you want.
29:55
That's what you you built yourself to this point.
29:57
Now how can they finish? They're in place to.
29:59
They're in position to do so. Yep.
30:01
John to Saturday again with Oregon.
30:05
We talked, they're good. I mean, that's a really talented
30:07
team. There's at times you get those
30:10
feelings, John, I, I've I've heard you plenty of times when
30:12
you just you have that feeling that starts to seep in.
30:16
Are you getting it this week? Are you getting that feeling
30:18
going back to 2016 against Michigan where just there a fair
30:23
and special is up this? Do you see that happening?
30:25
This week. It it almost feels like
30:27
everybody's trying to will it into existence this week.
30:30
How do you see it? Yeah, I, I, you do kind of get
30:34
that feeling and oh, by the way, look at the weather forecast
30:36
this. Saturday.
30:38
You know, and it, it that could, that could make that game even
30:42
more interesting. So I, I just, there's just so
30:47
much of a feeling around this. And I've covered enough games
30:50
there to know when you have that feeling.
30:52
I think back to the Penn State game a couple years ago when
30:54
they were both top five and you just had that feeling.
30:57
This game has that feeling. And you know, so I do think
31:02
Saturday is going to be, I think Saturday is going to be a really
31:05
good day. So it should be a lot of fun.
31:08
Bring your poncho with that walk into that climate controlled
31:11
press box where you'll sit and watch.
31:13
I'll. Just be out tailgating, I'll be
31:15
soaked by the time I get to the stadium.
31:17
You won't be alone. And then the food.
31:18
You know the carving table. I have hot dogs and burgers.
31:23
Good stuff. associatedpress.com I would call it hoops.
31:27
I read your piece and I would call it hoops as I always do, as
31:29
a really good read. As always.
31:31
John Iowa College hoops.com for our buddy John Bowen Camp.
31:36
We like talking to him, despite his baseball team.
31:40
Good to talk to you, bud. We'll talk to nation.
31:43
So you've said talk to you in a couple of weeks.
31:45
See you, pal. You have a good one.
31:47
See it. John Bowen Camp loves his
31:49
Dodgers. Yes, he does.
31:51
And he just didn't jump on the bandwagon.
31:53
We should put that out there as well.
31:56
God, that was a hell of a series.
31:57
It really was. Bieber's staying.
31:59
Did you see that? Is he?
32:01
Yes, I don't know. They had fun up there.
32:05
We'll see where it goes. Anyways, good stuff out of John
32:09
Bowen Camp, good stuff out of Ben Mccollum's team yesterday.
32:12
I love the fact, as you said, they I guess they carry that
32:15
over from the Drake tradition, running around and slapping,
32:18
slapping hands, not fans, hands up fans, just thanking them for
32:23
being there. So that was that was pretty cool
32:25
to watch and that was a fun game to watch, even though it's
32:28
Robert Moore's excuses for, you know, maybe being a little bit
32:31
over the top factor in the the competition, but.
32:35
We admitted that we. Did, but it was just so
32:37
different to watch them. The effort on the defensive end
32:41
of the floor trend it was. There's a breath of fresh air.
32:44
Night and day out, Yes it look like a different program.
32:48
And it is. It is.
32:49
Do you think now Friday they take on Western Illinois?
32:52
Yeah, OK. But the following Friday they
32:56
get Xavier, an appliance that people know now Xavier kind of a
33:01
a bubble ish team coming into the year.
33:03
That's where the projections are.
33:04
But it's at least it's a brand. Yep, what kind of on a Friday
33:08
night semi final Friday night 'cause I'll be in the Dome
33:10
that's. Right.
33:12
What kind of attendance do you anticipate for you know, can
33:15
they push to 1213 thousand I. Was going to say they better top
33:18
blow by 10. Yeah.
33:21
I would like to see I I have to think last night went a long way
33:24
towards that goal, I really do. I will tell you in one of the
33:28
many text groups I and M1 of them to the guys completely
33:31
checked out. Just couldn't watch it anymore.
33:33
They play basketball in high school.
33:35
They were good defensive players.
33:36
They they couldn't stand watching it anymore last night.
33:40
They're starting to make some plans for making some treks
33:42
over. Today they were engaged.
33:44
And I'm going to guess that those are not the only two
33:46
people that saw my wife, talked about her at the top.
33:49
Not a big basketball fan. When she saw McCullum throw the
33:53
hands up, the smile on her face, I'm like, yeah, all right, when
33:56
we when are we going over? But we taking the kids, What are
33:58
we going to do it? What are we going to make it
34:00
happen? It's just that kind of
34:02
excitement. It builds and it can happen
34:04
quickly. We know how good the Iowa
34:06
basketball fan base can be because we see for the women's
34:08
team and we've seen in the past, obviously for the men's team,
34:12
Mccollum's a guy that a. Distant past, sadly.
34:14
Yeah, it's been a long time. It's been a long time.
34:17
There is there's a lot of tumors that need to be removed and and
34:22
they go all the way back to the way it ended for Doctor Tom.
34:24
A lot of people 25 years ago can't get over that.
34:28
Steve Alford, Pierre Pierce, the disaster that was Licklider,
34:33
McCaffrey and the kids. There's a lot of scar tissue.
34:37
I'll. Call him the guy.
34:40
So far I was, I was encouraged. I and you know what is I was
34:45
watching it unfold last night and it wasn't lost on me just
34:48
how much of A battle Cyhawks going to be on the especially
34:51
defensive end of the floor because we know how I always
34:53
take it. Yes.
34:55
They just they they're not going to defence.
34:58
They're not if you don't play defence, you're going to play
35:00
This is this has got some it's got some cash 8 to it coming up
35:03
in December. It really does.
35:05
All right, tense plays of the day.
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35:23
Welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network, Des Moines Sports
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Station One O 6.3 KXNO. Our final segment trends, plays
35:32
of the day, Circus sports sponsored those plethora of
35:35
college hoops today. Is that where you will be
35:37
involved? Can I interest you in some
35:39
action? Yes, yes you can.
35:41
Both games. One game, no one game's got a a
35:45
big number. The game Toledo Northern
35:48
Illinois game seemingly plays every action and it's usually
35:52
pretty good. I'm not sure tonight will be,
35:53
but Toledo's one of those teams, Trent.
35:57
They never cover as the favorite or very seldom.
36:00
Yeah, Jason Candle's terrible as a.
36:02
And outright loses a favorite and they're they're 15 point
36:06
favorites at Circa. Well, I'm going to grab the 15
36:09
points and give me the Huskies not playing that trend.
36:13
Northern Illinois, really good defensively.
36:14
They're awful offensively. Is that what it is?
36:17
Because they're both, they're both two and two, correct?
36:19
I think it's conference. Well.
36:21
Or maybe one, maybe Northern Illinois one and three, but not
36:24
a big difference. But it's not like ones at the
36:25
top of the standings and ones at the basement.
36:28
They're about right now in the middle there.
36:29
Yeah, we're grabbing the points, going to grab the 15 with the
36:32
Huskies in that one. And then it got 2 basketball
36:35
games now. Awful start.
36:36
College basketball, I told you a year ago, college basketball.
36:39
It just never clicked for me last season, which is normally
36:42
my sport. That is by far my best.
36:44
Well, 57% of favourites have covered so far.
36:47
That's a problem for me. That is a huge problem for me.
36:50
What am I doing? Right back to the well again
36:52
with two dogs tonight. I'm grabbing Southern Hill in
36:54
Indiana and the 22 1/2 tonight as they take on the Butler
36:59
Bulldogs. ESPN +4 that one also grabbing
37:03
the points. You can get 23 Caesars.
37:06
I might need it. I'm grabbing Tarlton State.
37:10
Billy Gillespie is the coach there.
37:12
Yeah. Say what you will about him as
37:13
an individual, yeah, he's different.
37:15
And there's there's plenty of things to say.
37:17
Yeah, very few of them. But as a basketball coach, that
37:20
dude can coach. Is there more in that profession
37:22
than other professions? Say what you want about him as a
37:25
person, but as a Bowser, we'll go.
37:27
I think there's a lot of them that fall into that category.
37:29
Absolutely. New LSU don't love kind of what
37:33
they have roster wise this season, so we're going to grab
37:35
the points and Gillespie 15 1/2. It's an ugly card.
37:38
Southern Indiana, Northern Illinois, Tarleton State, which
37:42
is not a state. Did you see the pushback on
37:44
that? Oh, I didn't.
37:45
So they played Abilene Christian in football over the weekend,
37:48
OK. And they just had, you know, one
37:49
of those graphics that the social media people put out,
37:52
Charlton, not a state, ha ha. There was an apology that came
37:57
from Abilene Christian admonituring their social media
38:01
team for putting that out there. It is not the they said it's not
38:06
a state. They didn't call them names.
38:08
Right. Well, what are they?
38:10
Where? Where are they?
38:11
A state. They're not and not Yeah, on top
38:13
of it. It's a fact, right?
38:16
Yeah, it's good to. Say, I mean, somebody in the
38:19
corner office must have got upset about that one and had
38:22
some pushback. This is on the hardwood though.
38:24
Yeah, I'm going to be watching action.
38:27
You're going to be watching. Action maybe as the NBA doesn't
38:30
do it for me or the T Wolves play tonight.
38:32
They do against the Knicks. Oh, that's pretty.
38:33
Good. Yes, absolutely.
38:34
But it's out. Yes, but on ESPN.
38:37
All right, now I'll flip over, catch a little of that, a little
38:40
puck maybe, but matching per Moi, That'll do it for us.
38:44
We appreciate you spending some of your time with us as we were
38:47
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38:50
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