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The Pam Bondi Congressional Oversight Committee Epstein Related Transcript (Part 7) (6/7/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to get right
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  back to the Pam Bondi interview with Congress. Question with
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  respect to that memos assertion that no further disclosure of
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  files would be appropriate or warranted, do you recall who
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  made that decision at the time that no further Epstein
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  file should be released? Answer? Can you point out where
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  you're reading that? Question? Sure, Down at the bottom of
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  the first page, there's just one sentence, and it says
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  the determination of the DOJ and the FBI that no
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  further disclosure would be appropriate or warranted. Answer. I can't
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  answer that other than that was in July, and we
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  had sought, meaning the Department of Justice to unseal in
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  July documents from courts in the Southern District of Florida
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  and Southern District of New York, and that was denied,
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  I believe by both judges the release of those documents.
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  Question if you know, would the Department have been aware
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  of the content of the three million or so pages
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  that we now have seen at the time that the
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  memo was written in July. Answer? I don't believe so.
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  Question okay, So that judgment about no further disclosure of
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  files would be warranted was made on a lesser understanding
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  of what the files were then as we sit here today. Answer, well,
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  clearly they did not know that there were three million
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  plus approximately three million pages of documents at the time. Question,
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  as far as you know, was that July memo written
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  informed exclusively within dj and the FBI or did the
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  White House have any role in crafting that memo? Answer?
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  I don't recall. Question. The month prior, in June, Elon
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  Musk had tweeted that time to drop the really big
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  bomb at real Donald Trump is in the Epstein files
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  and that's the real reason they have not been made public.
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  Did you have any conversation with any agency or administration
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  staff about the tweet? Answer? I'm not going to discuss
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  any conversations that I did or didn't have with the
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  department or administration. Question I think or conversations inside the
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  department I think have been discussed to a pretty good
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  extent here today. So is there some more nuanced to
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  that idea? Answer? No, question, okay? Is it that you
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  will not answer that particular question for the record? Answer?
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  Will you repeat the question? Answer, Yeah, that Elon Musk tweet,
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  which was last June. Mister Musk said, quote, it's time
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  to drop the really big bomb at real Donald Trump
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  is in the Epstein files. The question was just whether
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  you had any conversation with subordinates colleagues about that tweet? Dylan,
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  That question calls for communication that she already said she's
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  not going to testify about, and she already answered that,
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  So question, I definitely don't think it does. But can
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  you help me understand in what sense? In other words,
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  it's not a conversation with the president, it's during her
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  time as Attorney General Dylan, She stated that she is
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  not going to testify about executive branch communication, and your
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  question elicited that it was broader than the president question. Definitely,
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  I'm not asking about presidential communication. So is the category
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  not just president or close aids to president, but inside
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  of DOJ conversation Dylan, that question redacted. You're kind of
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  changing the scope of your question. Actually, question, I don't
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  think I am, Dylan, I think you are. Question I'm
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  definitely not. The question is just whether miss Bondi, and
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  I'll direct it to Miss BONDI had any discussions that
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  you can recall with colleagues at DOJ about the tweet
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  that I just described, Dylan, So that's a different question
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  than the one you had originally asked. You can answer
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  the question if you can without revealing privileged communication. BONDI sure.
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  I'm sure we did, because that was quite a post. Yes,
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  but I can't recall the extent of the conversation other
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  than did you see this question? To your knowledge, did
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  that tweet have any impact on the department's decision to
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  release the July memo we previously did discussed answer? To
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  my knowledge, no question, all right. I would like to
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  ask a few questions about Glayne Maxwell and the conditions
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  of her incarceration. This topic was discussed to some extent.
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  Bondy jumps in. Can I have a minute to confer question? Sure,
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  of course, answer there's something I might want. We can
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  go off the record for a moment. Do you have
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  a clarification, Bondy, no question. Okay, We're actually going to
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  do a few questions from members that are here, so
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  I'll turn that over in that direction. Now we have
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  mister Garcia asking the questions. Mister Garcia, Miss BONDI, thank
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  you again for being here. And again just want to
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  reiterate we wish you a full and speedy recovery. So
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  thanks for being here, Miss BONDI a couple questions I
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  want to start. First. There's been a reporting that indicates
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  that you had informed President Trump on May twenty fifth
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  that his name appeared multiple times in the Epstein files
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  that were reviewed by the DOJ. A couple of months later,
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  on July seventh of twenty twenty five, which was discussed earlier,
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  the DOJ and the FBI released a memo saying that
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  no further disclosure would be appropriate or warranted. We just
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  discussed that now. Looking at the conversation that was reported
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  back in May, why did you tell President Trump he
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  was in the files, Bondie. I'm not going to discuss
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  the conversations I did or did not have with the
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  President of the United States, and I've said that multiple
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  times on multiple topics throughout my tenure. Garcia, what was
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  President Trump's reaction when you had that conversation with him?
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  No response, Dylan asked and answered, Garcia. Did President Trump
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  at any time tell you not to disclose what was
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  in the files? Dylan asked and answered, Garcia, Let me
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  get to Glenn Maxwell. It's clear not answering my questions
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  about President Trump about any conversation with President Trump, what
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  he may have directed you to do. Is that correct, Bondi,
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  I'm not going to answer any question any conversations that
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  I've had with the President of the United States, whether
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  we had them or didn't have them, or the substance, Garcia.
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  So let's look at the handling of client Maxwell. Obviously
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  a convicted sex trafficker. She sentenced to twenty years in
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  federal prison. You earlier today called her evil. We can
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  agree on that. I wonder, just to re clarify, miss Bondi,
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  do you think that Maxwell deserves a pardon for her crimes?
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  Bondy No, Garcia, Okay, thank you, we agree on that
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  as well. Now I also want to talk to you
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  about the prison. She was moved to a less secure prison.
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  You mentioned earlier that it was comparable. In fact, that's
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  not correct. There are four levels of prison within the GOP.
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  She was moved to the minimum level from another level,
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  so she was actually moved to a lower level, less
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  secure facility per BOP. We have an exhibit on it.
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  If we need to also share that our counsel can
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  pass it around. Do you think that she should have
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  been moved to a less secure prison? I think any
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  inmate should be moved somewhere where they can be safe,
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  regardless of what crime they committed. That would be a
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  question directed at the Bureau of Prisons, and I have
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  full faith in Billy Marshall, who is the director of
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  the Bureau of Prisons. Garcia, but will you acknowledge that
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  she was moved to a less secure facility? Bondy, No,
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  because I have no knowledge of that, Garcia. Okay. I
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  do want to make sure that we get that exhibit out,
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  but that is the case, she was moved to a
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  less secure facility. Do you know if Acting Ag Todd
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  Blanche ordered the move to a less secure facility? Bondye,
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  I have no knowledge of that, Garcia. Did you ever
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  ask anyone to move Glenn Maxwell to a different prison, Bondy.
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  As I stated earlier, I knew she was moved when
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  I read it. I guess online or saw it. Garcia, Okay,
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  did you talk to the Acting Ag mister Blanche after
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  you read it online? Dylan on any topic? Garcia on
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  the actual move Glen Maxwell to the less secure facility, BONDI,
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  I don't recall. I would direct that though to the
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  Bureau of Prisons. I don't recall Garcia, Okay. I just think, obviously,
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  the move Glenn Maxwell to a lesscure facility was everywhere,
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  was being discussed in the news, a massive, obviously move
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  that the Bureau of Prisons ended up making under whose
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  direction we still have yet no answer on. And so
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  it's interesting, of course that you don't recall if there
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  was ever a conversation. Did you have a conversation with
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  the Bureau of Prisons about the move after what happened, Bondie,
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  I believe. I ran into them and at an event
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  and I asked it was moved to a similar level,
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  and they said, yes, I believe. But this is why
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  it's not unusual. As a career prosecutor, she was on
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  top of the news, and if she was getting threats,
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  I don't know even where she was moved where she's
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  housed now, But if any defendant at any level is
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  getting threats, it's common to move people within the prison system.
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  That's why it wasn't that unusual to me. That's an
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  absolute lie, by the way, and also, nobody would threatening
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  her in the Honor Dorm in Tallahassee. Now you see
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  why Pam Bondi didn't want to be under oath. Garcia,
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  thank you, And would you agree that perhaps the question
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  should have been directed at the Bureau of Prisons and
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  to the Acting AG Todd Blanche. Bondi, yes, question, okay,
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  and so mister Blanche, Bureau of Prisons, that's where the
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  information is at. Knowing what you Dylan jumps in, I
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  would just not a congressman that mister Blanche actually made
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  those remarks and said that during a briefing that you
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  walked out of, mister Garcia. So, knowing what you know today,
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  do you think that miss Maxwell should have been moved
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  to that facility? Bondie anytime. I don't have details and
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  if she received death threats, what kind of threats, but
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  anytime an inmate at any level is threatened, they will
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  be moved. Well, that's going to be great to hear
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  for a lot of people that are being threatened in
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  prison right now all over the country. Pam Bondy, former
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  AG says, you're going to be moved. Start hitting those
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  petitions up and if you have family members in prison,
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  time to start sending letters in saying that they're being threatened,
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  so everybody gets moved to a camp. That's what Bondi
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  is saying, right. It's very common among prisons, state and
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  federal to move inmates, and she had just recently given
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  a very public interview. Garcia, thank you. Last question, you
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  are aware that, of course, there was the Epstein File
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  Transparency Act that passed in Congress, but there was also
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  an active subpoena that the dj did actually not fully
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  respond to. Are you aware of that, Bondy, I'm sorry,
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  could you slow down and repeat that again, please, Garcia.
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  So you're aware that besides the Epstein File Transparency Act
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  that passed in Congress signed by the President, prior to that,
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  there was an active subpoena passed by an oversight committee
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  for the full release of the files, and that those
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  two are separate. Bondi. Yeah, and that's when we released
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  I believe approximately thirty three thousand or over thirty thousand.
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  She gets cut off by Garcia. Thank you, and we'll
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  continue with some additional questions on that. I'm going to
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  turn this over to Representative Frost. Mister Frost, thank you
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  very much. One quick question for clarification for the record,
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  the Council kept referring to your participation here as a
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  voluntary interview. Are you aware that this committee issued a
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  subpoena to you, Bondy, yes. Question. Do you not consider
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  this sit down to be complying with that subpoena? Bondy,
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  I am no longer attorney general. The subpoena was regarding
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  when I was Attorney General. I'm here voluntarily today. She
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  gets caught off by Frost. So is it your opinion
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  is that you sit She cuts them off to comply
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  with you Frost again, So just to make sure for
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  the record, in your opinion, the sit down is not
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  to comply with the subpoena, but it's a voluntary interview.
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  Have nothing to do with the subpoena issued by the committee, Bondi.
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  I'm here to answer any questions that you have that
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  I can answer. Regarding Jeffrey Epstein. I also came in
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  while I was Attorney General to this committee voluntarily with
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  Deputy Attorney General at the time, Blanche, who answered many
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  of the questions that you're asking. However, during that hearing,
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  I believe many of you, if not all of you, left,
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  Frost cuts her off. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am, thank you.
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  And just for a clarification of the record, now she
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  cuts him off. So many of those excuse me, I'm sorry,
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  I didn't mean to interrupt you. Many of those have
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  been asked and answered by at the time, the Deputy
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  Attorney General Frost. Yeah, thank you, ma'am. And just for
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  clarification for the record, you do not see this sit down,
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  this voluntary interview, as you call it, as complying with
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  the subpoena that the committee issued. You see this as
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  a separate thing. Mister Ginn. I'm sure, I'm confident that
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  you're aware that the answer to that is actually that
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  there was a robust discussion between the Department of Justice
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  and this committee about how the Department of Justice would
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  fulfill its obligation in responding to the subpoena. And this
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  sit down interview right now, is the Department of Justice
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  compliance with the committee's request to have time to speak
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  with the Attorney General. Yeah, because comer hooked her up.
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  Stop of the bullshit, mister Frost. So miss, just for
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  clarification for the record, is the answer. Yes, you do
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  see this sit down as complying with the subpoena. Mister Ginn. Again,
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  the contents of former Attorney General Bondie's testimony do not
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  overlap with the content of Counsel's negotiation with you all.
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  So I mean, I think the answer to that information
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  is really directed to Miss Dillon and myself and the
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  Attorney General. Mister Frost, Okay, So, Miss Bondi, you don't
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  have an answer for that on whether or not you
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  see this as complying with the subpoena. Miss Dillon, she's
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  not going to answer that, mister Frost. Okay, So you
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  won't answer the question. Okay, back to the Glen Maxwell transfer.
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  Are you aware if President Trump was informed about the
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  transfer before it happened? Bondi, I'm not going to discuss
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  any conversation that I had or did not have with
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  the President of the United States on this topic or others.
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  Mister Frost, Yeah, I understand that, but it's not about
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  the conversation you might have had with him. My question is,
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  are you aware if he knew about it before it happened? Bondi.
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  I'm not going to discuss any conversation that I might
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  have had or not had with the President of the
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  United States. Mister Frost, So, just for clarification, it seems
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  like you won't answer my question relating to conversations you've
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  had with the president, but also any conversations you've had
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  about the president. Is that true, Bondy, no question, okay.
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  So my question has to do with if you're aware
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  that he knew about it, not if he told you
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  he knew about it. Gin jumps in once again, I'm
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  just going to object to this entire line of questioning.
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  It's just argumentative and completely unproductive. Redacted, Council. This is
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  a transcribed interview. There are no objections, Frost. Yeah, I'm
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  just asking questions and I'm just trying to understand the
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  scope of things, Dylan. If members are tchewing up their
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  time repeating themselves, that is not our problem, Bondi. I
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  am not aware of the President having any knowledge of it,
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  whether it be from reading in the paper or people
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  reporting that he did, or talking to anyone about it.
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  I have no knowledge of that, mister Frost. Okay, thank you, ma'am.
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  Did anyone in the administration ever express concern about the
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  transfer or urge Bo Peter reverse it, Bondie. I'm not
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  going to discuss any conversations that I had or did
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  not have with the administration, mister Frost. Okay, thank you redacted.
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  Just a really quick clarification, and it's not so much
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  for you all, but more just for the record. The
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  reference to the relationship between the subpoena, a deposition, a
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  transcribed interview related discussions, we have not been part of
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  those discussions and we haven't been read into those discussions,
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  so we don't actually have any knowledge of that. So
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  that's just for the transcript. Please continue, all right, folks,
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  We're going to wrap up right here, and in the
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  next episode, we're going to pick up where we left off.
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