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Summer House Reunion Pt 2 · Wicked Messy

• Hali and Alicia: Hello guys, we're back. Hi everybody. My name is Alicia. And I'm Hali And we said we weren't doing that. And this is Wicked Messy. So ⁓ we've re-recorded this like five times due to some cat related incidents. But ⁓ Lucifer has been on the prowl. Yeah, that's Hali's cat. Yep. ⁓ and the first time we said we weren't gonna introduce ourselves anymore, but ⁓ I did for this one time. Yeah. We're gonna move on now. And that's it. Yeah, we'll never do it. We're done with that after. All right. So let's just jump right into the lover boy. Okay. So we have this is white tea peach. Yeah and ⁓ it says and lavender. ⁓ That makes sense. Okay. Okay. So let's try it. Cheers. ⁓ we are gonna rate that now, and I give it a six out of ten. Yep, six out of ten. I'd say a little better than the last one. Yeah. We'll compare them next time then. Right. We'll have them both and we'll compare. Yep. Perfect. Okay. Okay. This was a crazy. Now I'm worried that our mics aren't if our mics aren't working, so let's pray. But anyways, ⁓ so again, as Alicia said last time, this was another doozy. Yep. And I would say historically with these reunions, part two is always a snooze fest usually. Like you're rewinding, they're just like trying to like tie up loose ends and it's usually, you know, boring, boring, boring. Not this one. Right. This was this was crazier than part one. Wild. Honestly, it was. I feel like they asked a lot of like irrelevant to the Westgate thing in the first one and like touched on it a little bit. So probably try to retain people to watch. The entire parts. Yes. One, two, and three. 100% ⁓ sense. So we just pretty much pick up right where we left off ⁓ ⁓ Ciara telling Amanda, you know, you probably are good for West because you're mute and you'll do whatever he says. You won't do it. Amanda storms off. She's upset. Kyle's like, You're being harsh. Yeah, that was really harsh, which Kyle, like, what are you doing? Because this is filmed ⁓ ⁓ April 2026, so like two months ago. So you everything was out in the open and you're still defending this girl. I can't understand it. Yeah. ⁓ So jump right back into that. And at this point everyone's just like piling ⁓ on Right. Lindsay calls him a pathy, which ⁓ I like, ⁓ my god, I'm gonna use that always now. New buzzword. New buzzword. I just loved that. ⁓ ⁓ and in this small window of time, KJ ends up saying, Hey, like I don't want to take too much time, but I do have something to say. And I'm like, take all the time that you need. Yeah. This is your stage too. Literally. Like I love. Not Amanda and West's show. Like, even though they think it is. ⁓ it definitely isn't. Yeah. No. No. So ⁓ I actually wanna bring this back to what we talked about last episode. Mm-hmm. ⁓ last episode when he was discussing Is BPD. Yep. You mentioned that typically this is a product of environment with that diagnosis. It's seen often. Yep. This episode, he during the scene talks talking to West, he says, Hey, listen, like this has impacted me a lot because growing up, my dad, much like what you're doing now, was a womanizer. He always cared so much about making everything look picture perfect, but it was never like that in reality. Yep. ⁓ he was in and out all the time. Like this I can't be friends with you when you're like this. Yeah. My question for you with your area of expertise is, do you see any connection between BPD and Perhaps a parent that acts like this while their children are growing up. Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's not so much like specifically dad and his behaviors. ⁓ it's more so that mom one was probably super stressed trying to figure out like, how do I get this man under control while raising a child? And does KJ have siblings? Children, all sisters. Okay, yeah. So mom's probably Working a ton as well. She's super stressed. So that's already not a great environment. And you obviously, if you're stretched that thin and dad's out doing whatever he does and with other women or trying to keep up this image, like she then ca taking care of KJ and his siblings, that's gonna be really, really tough. So then there comes that unintentional neglect again where you can't give that full attention. So then their attention seeking behaviors kind of start up, and that's where it kind of blossoms and starts budding. ⁓ I mean, I will say dad could also be a a factor here because I don't know what their relationship was like, dad and KJ, and whether, you know, KJ also was trying to fight for dad's attention because it sounds like dad was quite busy. So really, those are the big red flags. My antenna goes up when I hear that. And, you know, I will say a lot of patients who are diagnosed with borderline, you usually can kind of follow this trail of like what was home life like in those really early developmental stages that you need that care, you need that affection, you need that face-to-face stuff like that. So ⁓ yeah, it's just very, very interesting. And yeah, I I really wish him the best, you know? ⁓ definitely. And and just to be clear here, it's it's not saying that because it seems like he adores his mom. He doesn't go too much into it. It's not necessarily bad parenting. But it's when you're put in a situation with that much stress and you can't pay that much attention to detail with the kids. Yep. This is something that happens. It's not that you're a bad parent, but this is something that can happen. Absolutely. ⁓ Oh yeah. Yeah. She can be a great mom and you just you just can't be there for your kids. And that's kind of what develops. You know, we we figure things out on our own and it's not usually the right way of figuring things out because you need that parental guidance, you need that support, that those check ins, stuff like that. You know? ⁓ it's a lot. Yeah. It's very interesting. Yeah, it's it's it's a wild ride ⁓ for borderlines. You know, I have a patient right now who I just yesterday got a call about that is on like their seventh or eighth, you know, overdose attempt and it's just, you know, and this was sparked by a recent breakup in a very tumultuous relationship. Yeah. So it's it's it's tough. It's yeah. So I give him again a lot of credit for bringing that up. Yeah. ⁓ my goodness. Yeah. I know. He's very fragile. And we'll we'll get back to him in a little bit because there's some some Dara stuff. Developing news. Yeah. Developing Dara stuff. Yes. ⁓ okay. Okay. So moving on. So ⁓ Amanda and Ciara start kind of going at it at this point. Yep. ⁓ Ciara is saying that she feels that West and Amanda have been using buzzwords with her all season by saying things like I see you, I hear you. And in reality, they don't. And Ciara almost frames it in a way that it's like, were they saying this just to keep me to back off and not look at this too hard? And I agree with that. 100%. That's what I think. They don't want the attention on them. They're just like, let's go with the flow. Let's be kind, nice, and we can sneak our hugs and we can sneak our, you know. almost nearly kissing like on the side here and no one's gonna know a fucking thing. Yeah. Right. And it's like, ⁓ my God, they and I I think they almost could have done it too if they were on any other show besides a Bravo show. Right. Because there's cameras ~ Everywhere. These fans, though, this fan base, you're not getting away with anything. They're committed, they're invested, and they're gonna dig the fuck out of anything that has even the tiniest puff of smoke to it. Yes. Yeah. There's they're stupid. The fact that they think they could trick the fans. But again, I think West knew this was going to come out because think about it. There's going to be a rebound from Westgate, and West is going to monetize the fuck off of it. Like people are going to Being the bad guy in the Bravo verse is not a bad thing. But he it gets you a lot. But you didn't think he was gonna be the bad guy. He thought he was smart enough to play this. So see, I don't know. I think he is egotistical maniac, and I think he really did. There's no way he thought this wasn't gonna come out and him seen as a bad guy. No, I mean I don't think he thought it was gonna come out like this. I believe that they had this plan where it's we need to show the viewers that we are genuine. friends and you were there for Ciara and it just happened to not work out and I saw all of it and I love you both, but the way that the cards fell, we ended up finding each other. I think that they thought they could trick us for a good two seasons and their organic love would would be celebrated. Right, right. I I do. That's what I think. I think he thinks he's smart enough to have played us for Yeah. For shits and gigs. But there's no way you don't also think about the alternative route that it could take. You know what I mean? A normal person would. Somebody And like, why did you release that statement when you did? If you thought you weren't gonna be the bad guy. I don't know. Well, well, he's saying because it they didn't have a choice. Because of all the breadcrumbs. Right. Is what Amanda is saying. Right. Which they won't talk about, so whatever. ⁓ yeah, but no, I feel like didn't I I sent you something on Instagram where there is a conversation about the video. So I don't know if that's coming in part three. Because I'm pretty sure Andy even asked a question about it because he didn't see it. ⁓ So this might be coming. ⁓ I could be wrong, but I I believe it is. Unless it's like someone leaked footage that was cut out. But I don't know. On he got it's the uncentered I don't think anyone Ciara herself's even seen it. ⁓ because they didn't want to, because it's like revenge porn. Whatever. Anyways. So Amanda did say, and I appreciated this little bit of honesty, because I'm like, duh. She said that she selfishly wanted to kind of figure things out because she knew she'd eventually have to tell Ciara anyways. Yeah. And she would just it would be embarrassing to go to Ciara and be like, Hey, by the way, like I kissed West and I'm literally a side bitch. So she was like, I kissed him either way. I right. She said she knew about Meija ⁓ like was I gonna say that to you? You know what? I that ⁓ can I can understand that. You already ruined your best friend's life. Maybe like come with some but some But that also goes along with the point, like so obviously you are making a really fucking bad decision if you feel that embarrassment already about even like bringing the subject up. ⁓ yeah. What were you fucking thinking? Well Mia was like, Yeah, it is embarrassing. Yeah. That couldn't have made her look better, but you finally said something without being defensive, like knowing how it would look. Yeah. Like I'm like, good, you just you said something other than Ciara to shutup. She stays with the resting bitch face during this reunion it's wild. ⁓ I think To have the balls. I would be smiling. I would be like so meek, like I just didn't feel that from her. But I especially part two. I don't know if she how they both looked off. Yeah. Like I know we talked about speculated last time, but I s I s feel like th come on, they that's Xanax or something. A hundred percent. Beta blockers? Yeah. Anything maybe? No. Beta blockers don't make you act like that though, do they? No, not really. Like that's I mean, for some people if they're like not hydrated and you feel a little woozy and you can get lightheaded, but I no, I don't think so. I think she took something stronger. But again, I don't think it's gonna touch her 'cause this is a terrible position to be on. It can only help you so much, right? definitely falling asleep on the couch. I'm like Wake up. We need you. I know. Although she was full fight or flight when Mia was like, it is embarrassing. Yeah. She's like, I gotta go. She runs away. Yeah, like that. I don't understand. And West, why did it take four people on that stage and Lindsay to F bomb, get the fuck up and get your girl 15 times for you to then go? What are you doing? They literally had to put a gun to his head. Yeah. In fact, he didn't even go until Kyle was like, You should really go after it. He was like, Okay, and got up. I'm like, I know. I'm like, this is wild. and this is supposed to be the guy that is considered emotionally mature. ⁓ His mom, I'm pretty sure this is true. I think this is true. Yeah. His mom's a psychologist or something, or a sex therapist or something. ⁓ wow. Something like that. So he knows how to talk to women in a way that do you ⁓ Doesn't that make so much sense? Yep. I'm like nine everything. You know exactly what to say. And if and I g if she is a really nice lady too, like ⁓ two things can be possible that you can be manipulative and a clout chaser, and that you also just genuinely like love women. Yeah. In in the wrong ways, but it's like Yeah. I think he believes his own bullshit. He believes his own bullshit. ⁓ yeah, I think he validates himself every night. Like everything I did and said today was absolutely fine because of this, and it's all centered around him. And that's the the reality that he lives in in his mind. And he's been living since he got on Summer House. Probably fucking how he got on Summerhouse. I mean, give me a break. ⁓ who knows, dude? It definitely w I don't know how we got on Summerhouse. But I I know that Dara definitely got on Summer House because of him, but yep. Anyways, we'll we'll get to that. So he goes and he talks to Amanda, he's like, it's okay to cry on. Stage. Yeah. I'm like, can someone get Kyle back there? Because this guy doesn't know what to say to Amanda. I know. I know this guy does not know what to say. Yeah. You can cry on stage, no shit. But my thing is then he leaves Amanda and then she's like still gone for quite a while. Andy said on his podcast recently that she was actually gone for 20 minutes, which is a very long time. ⁓ Are so fucking selfish because everyone got there in the morning. Everyone knows reunions are a long, exhausting day. And you fine, take five to ten minutes. I understand you're under scrutiny, you're going through a lot. Don't do 20 minutes. You're just an asshole and you can't run from your problems. I'm sorry. Not on this TV show. No. And so so when she left, it's so funny because like Andy was trying to find anything else to talk about. I know. Like I literally when he brought up like ⁓ he brought up Ben and the Jesse and the new bed box. I was like, I'm going to make a coffee. Wait, so speaking of Jesse. ⁓ I can. So they started talking to Jesse about his ⁓ his tour in his new album and everything. And then they brought up the b the the song about loving your best friend. ⁓ what did he say? And so he he was asked, is that song about Ciara? Cause they talked about that whole thing, like, why were you saying it was a joke to kiss Ciara where you really have feelings for her? And he pretty much was like, No, it was a joke, but then he kinda ate his words because Ciara's like, What do you mean? You said it wasn't. Whatever. But then they get back into this song about loving your best friend, and then Ciara goes. She said, Well, they can play Jesse's song after the wedding about being in love with the best friend about Amanda and West. Yep. Yep. And I was like, ⁓ my God. And I think Andy's like eyes like bugged out and he was like, ⁓ my god, this is great. Like this is wild. ⁓ my god, I can't believe I missed that. I know, I know. Wait, is that when Jesse was like upset and he's like, People are making fun of me online? No, Kyle brought that up and I'm like, Kyle, why why are you bringing that up? He's like, I feel so bad for Jesse. Like they're really coming in hot on his music and they're not very nice. I know what that feels like. But like I didn't get that sense online that people were hating his music. I don't know if this is true. Yeah. I heard that recently on his tour. Yeah. He somebody he was like playing at some bar or something, and some like lady in like the pit like passed out. ⁓ that happens all the time. And like he was just like kept on singing. ⁓ god you can't do that. That's like freaking and it was like was it Travis Scott that people died and everything? But like he also didn't stop his concert for people and they were screaming. Yeah Jesse didn't stop his concert which that's bad because you're playing in very intimate small venues. How do you not see that? So that's what he's also not like an art like unless he didn't know. How about what if you don't have someone that knows? Like I don't Jesse's not a bad person and he seems like somebody that has no interest in making his career go over saving someone's life. He seems like a decent person. I think that he just he needs someone on that tour bus that knows what's going on. How about that? Jesse can't be like Traveling with his little buddies, like, get a fucking manager. No. Because someone just passed out on the sticky bar floor. And you need to you need to say in the microphone, hey everybody, clear the way for the freaking ambulance. Right. Instead of saying, I guess I'll just But so this is alleged. We don't know if you're Yeah, I don't have ⁓ we don't have videos, we don't have anything like that. I think they're out there because I heard mumblings about this on Twitter. I gotta look this up. So that that's terrible. That's not not our hand. It just sounds like he didn't know what to do. But this is what happens. Give it no matter what, the public is gonna be like, you are a fucking asshole. They don't care. It's Hollywood, babe. But his shows do look fun, honestly. I'd go. I would too. All right. And I don't want to talk about this music for another second. Now, ⁓ all right. So then when I return from my coffee. Wait, pause. In that little interim, ⁓ we also learned that because Kyle again fucking said this, that Jesse invested in softbar? I think he said that. We knew that. I did not know that until this reunion. That was not mentioned. The whole thing was about Carl and Kyle and how Kyle didn't invest because Carl did with Loverboy. Yeah, but the whole thing was, I think, that we heard in the season. You might have missed it, but the whole thing was like, even Jesse. Like, ⁓ yeah, maybe I missed it. And I was like, okay, so Jesse did and you didn't. And Kyle was like, well. ⁓ gotcha. Okay. So yeah, that wasn't like it wasn't a surprise to me. But it definitely wasn't like highlighted because it's like 'cause it wasn't a lot. I think was like five thousand dollars or something. ⁓ I mean, that's better than nothing. ⁓ gotcha. Okay. Kyle gave him nothing. So yeah. I bet Kyle has invested by now. I don't know. Carl's a mess it didn't sound like it. Carl's a mess merch is literally keeping his lights on. ⁓ yeah, maybe I mean yeah, but Carl still because he's invested, he still gets money from Loverboy. That's never going away. ⁓ that's a good point. But still. Yeah. And now they add that on. So and then now Ciara with the Girl Scouts, they get a profit, which we bought the shirts and that goes towards the Girl Scouts, they'll be here soon. Yep. Hopefully. ⁓ all right. So let's let's get into Dara. Yes. Okay. So Amanda's still gone at this point. And they bring out Dara, who is looking stunning, gorgeous. She looks amazing. I loved her dress. Absolutely loved it. She crushed it. Dara, call us immediately. Where'd you get the dress, honey? Literally, I need that. It's like almost Roman-ish, but like very like modest, but like she looks so good. She's so pretty. I will give it. She's a stunner, dude. She is. And she's probably even like beautiful without all her makeup. We've seen her without makeup, without her. Like she's done it in like with like the hair. She's just like I love her. She's stunning, gorgeous. How does West even get girls like these girls? Yeah. These girls are stunning. Anyways. Because that's what those types of guys get. They're so good at manipulating and turn on the cr charisma and they don't know what they're actually getting. It's like how many of your girlfriends over the years, your beautiful, hottest friends that you have, and they've dated guys that you're like, this dude this guy? I know. And why is it? Because they're maybe a little funny. Yeah, he's like. That's what West West isn't ugly, but he's he's kind of like a scruffy. Scruffy, like following. Ugly though. Objectively, he's not like, whoa, he's not hideous. How has he made it this far? Personality. A good sense of humor. You get any guy anything he wants. And he's at every party and everyone's drunk. Huh. Well, it's a good way to start it up. I have some other thoughts on his partying habits, but we'll get to that. ⁓ yes, I saw something about that. ⁓ okay. So They bring Dara in and they're like, All right, so Dara, like, what do you think about this whole situation? Yep. You can just hear Kyle in the background. Amanda should really be here for this. Amanda should really be here. And Andy's like, Well, she's not, so let's go. I have a dinner to make tonight. Like Kyle, stop defending her. Well, he's I I think he was being a good producer at this point. He's like, We need Amanda to hear why West is a piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah. So ⁓ so Dara comes on, she she gives this spiel like you care more about your image than the woman that you hold so close to your heart, like blah blah blah. She really she gives it to him. Yeah. And ⁓ well, her quote was it's the West show, and it will always be the West show. No, she says it before she comes out. She actually says that quote before, and then she kind of summarizes it. Okay. She doesn't say that actual quote. quote when Amanda's back out, which is annoying. Well it ends up getting said anyways, thanks to Andy. Yes. So Amanda comes back out and Kyle's like, Well well Amanda, now that you're back, ⁓ Dara can you resay what you said? Right. But again, why was Kyle getting up to go get her? Why was he? Yeah. Because that's his wife. It's still his wife dude. But she's not claiming that she how many times is she saying this? I'm single, I'm single, I'm single. It's like, honey, no, you're married. You're married. You're not divorced. No one's filed. Because that's the kind of person she is, and that's the kind of person he is. Listen, I Amanda, I don't I don't want to get too deep in the realm of you did this and that makes you, blanket statement, the worst person in the world. ⁓ are good people that just do bad things. She was in a bad relationship, a horrible ⁓ 10 years because Kyle is such a You know, golden Labrador fucking retriever, like everybody loves him. Shit got dark. Yeah. And everybody that's piling on Amanda and ignoring that, this is all gonna blow over and people are gonna realize that they might be on the wrong side of history by putting everything into Kyle and taking everything away from Amanda because she was treated very badly. But ⁓ but to be fair, I don't think Kyle ever, even on this reunion, especially, has said I'm a good guy. He actually during this part two said everything I did was wrong. I was wrong in many ways, because this is when Andy brought up like you said you misunderstood Kyle. And he was like, Yeah, no, I did a lot of bad things and I will stand by that. But now it's like, Okay, you're continuing to make poor choices when you know you're in the spotlight. Yeah. And the way you're showing up to this reunion is absolutely ⁓ yeah. She she's doing she's doing everything wrong. ⁓ it's it's hard. So Dara's just like literally like she is killing her little conversation. Like I think even like Ciara was like, Yeah, get him, girl. Like she said, what did she say? He needs somebody that he can mold and fit into his life and all of the things. And that's when Andy was like So Amanda, like just wondering, you just left the Kyle show to be on the West show. Like make it make sense. Yeah. Honestly. Like, and that's what I said on one of these episodes was like, what were you thinking? You have a problem with Kyle who's a party animal, and you you you you saw West and you you you don't get the connection that he's he's a party animal as well and he's fucking all these girls. And probably half the people, the girls invited to these parties are because of West. And he's probably hooked up with all of them. ⁓ I I mean give me a break. It's a joke. Yeah, I mean it it it's not great, but the the thing is it could be the Amanda show. It was the Amanda show up until this they put out their statement. Yeah I was seated, I was buckled, I was ready for the Amanda show. And guess what? I still am. I want all of these people to win. I want things to work out for all of them. I don't Hate any of them. I hate what Amanda did. Yeah. But I still want her eventually when things calm down. I want her to win. I want her to find herself. I want her to get away from this guy. Yeah. I'm not saying, you know, she's the best person for doing this, but I'm not saying she's the worst. West sucks. I want women stay away from West. I don't care how bad you are. You can't don't get down to that level. Don't touch him with a 10-foot pole. It's not worth it because something is going to happen. And spiral out of control. But ⁓ yeah, I don't know, Amanda. I just feel like at at in April 2026, when you're filming this reunion, this is still your stance and this is still how you're acting. I don't know. I'm sorry, but I don't know. And and then when West went back to get her she kept saying, or no, maybe this was during the break. She was like, I'm so tired of people saying you're married, you're married. Yeah. I'm like, that's girl. What are you saying? You know you're mic'd up. No one cares whether no one Cares if you cheated on Kyle. I know that's not why do they keep like they act like that's like they're like we never had sex and there was no overlap. Like, do you think that ⁓ like you know, ⁓ my god, you really think you're doing something right now? Well, first she was saying there was nothing physical, and now she's saying, since the kiss, since the kiss, and it's just this kiss. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. All right, so ⁓ but yeah, so Dara and KJ, they're obviously very much together. And again, this is filmed in what April 17th. They're very much together in the reunion. Right, when it was filmed April like 17th of this year, like two months ago. All right. Everybody listen up. This is This is wild. This is crazy. So then what? The end of May, maybe the 30th, 31st, or even June 1st, maybe not June 1st. Was it over the weekend that this all came out that KJ deleted every single picture and post of Dara and him on Instagram. They also unfollowed each other. And then all these Bravo accounts are like, ⁓ my God, they broke up, blah, blah, blah. And then we come to this podcast that Carl has now. And I mean, Carl, you are trying any possible thing you can, buddy, to stay relevant. Like you secured the first interview with KJ post. Him saying I'm borderline, post him like spilling his guts and now post breakup. But the this is the wild thing though. Okay, yeah. Is he saying they broke up. Dara and KJ broke up because he was post-hospital discharge, needed to focus on himself and recover, and Mia. Kind of spoke up to Dara and said, You can't be dealing with this. He has to focus on himself. This isn't a good time. You guys should break up, which she followed through with. But my question is part one of this reunion, KJ goes, In the past, I've been hospitalized for self harming, right? Mm-hmm. But now, fast forward to real time today or a few days ago when they broke up, now he's on Carl's podcast stating. We broke up after I discharged. So when did you did was this hospitalization number two? That that's the thing that we need to figure out because timeline is 2025, summer of 2025. They're filming. They finish filming. He says during part one of the reunion that once filming wrapped up. No, they finished filming winter two twenty twenty five, right? No, Memorial Day of this no you talking. Summerhouse? Summer House was July twenty twenty five. Yep. To September. To Labor Day. September. Right. Okay. Okay. Right. I don't know Christmas. so after they filmed Summer House, he had quit his job for Summerhouse. So now he's done and the party's over, and he's looking around and he's like, I didn't have a house at that point. Blah blah blah. I'm homeless. Yeah. Right. So that he's saying that during part one of the reunion. Okay. Right. He doesn't mention that Dara breaks up with him. No. Okay. Now, part two of the reunion, she's on the reunion. And they're kissing. So they're together. And they're holding hands. Yeah. Now, a few days ago from today, he has a podcast saying that he ended up going into treatment. And when he went into treatment, Mia suggested that Dara break up with him on this podcast, not on the reunion. On the podcast. So did he get hospitalized twice? Or did he just not mention the breakup in the reunion? to protect but that wouldn't make sense because part two she comes on so you think so you're saying were they pretending that they were together on on the reunion? I don't know. Yeah nothing makes sense honestly. It must have been you know what though we did only listen to that clip. I bet it's fully explained if we actually cared enough to listen to pop Carl's podcast. Yeah but I don't know if I want to give him a stream. Why don't you like him? I don't know I like am so anti-carl. I just think he's like so I don't know, just the the way he phrases things. He wants to stay neutral. He's like trying to play like Sweden, and like you can't really play Sweden. But funny, funny, I'll give Kyle this. Okay. So they did a flashback, and I didn't realize that whole night that that Kyle said fuck you to Amanda and the whole fight ensued. I didn't I missed the clip of Kyle going. I forgot Carl is more fragile than a fucking China doll. ⁓ my God, it's so funny. I was he was like six foot five, Carl. He's so crazy. ⁓ my god, he's hilarious. ⁓ but yeah, we we definitely need to to clarify this whole K J and Dara thing. I guess I'll have to listen to Carl's podcast and then we'll have to update our viewers ⁓ next episode. Yeah, because we're gonna get more information. Yeah, we're gonna get to the bottom of the thing that we do. Okay. Absolutely. Now with Carl though, let's stay on Carl for a second because they try to focus on him. Yeah. His soft bar and Lindsay and they talk about all that. ⁓ so finally Andy is like And he's kissing Lindsay's ass at any moment. ⁓ my god, he He's too much. He's very he's very pro Lindsay right now on the screen. He's like, ⁓ I still have the bear that she gave me it's in the office, which is cute. I have another conspiracy. Maybe Carl was passing up on Bailey because he had hopes that him and Lindsay would rekindle. I don't know. You think so? I don't know. Yeah, I kinda do. I don't think he wants her back like that. I think he does. I think he's like, ⁓ my God, she's actually being nice and like I miss her and like Well Lindsay's great when she's great. ⁓ she's great when she's great. But she's ⁓ Wild child when she's not when she's activated. I love it though. Well, so he was saying though, talking about like, ⁓ we're actually doing good, we're making money. Listen, I don't know anything about restaurants, but what I thought is usually if a restaurant does do good in the beginning, it's because people want to come and support. But after a few months, when those people aren't coming just to come, yeah, that's when you find out, like, yeah, I'm glad you're making profit, but it's only been two months. I know. So like. Tom Tom did great too and look at that. Probably less at that point when they were filming too, the reunion. So that's less time that they were open. Not to take a win away from him because it's like it's New York. I mean, the fact I mean, when you open a business and you're on a reality Tv T V show, I mean you're guaranteed that people are going to come and it's gonna be a steady flow. For a little though. That's what I'm saying. Like Tom Tom? That place shut the fuck down. And but when did it really go downhill? After Scandal. Yeah. So I'm sure. Carl's a little like ⁓ shit about this too. Yeah, but I think he's being strategic having Kyle do like DJ things, having runs like end up at his bar and like stuff like that, and like getting people hooked. Because the drinks do look good. And if they taste good, people are gonna continue going. A hundred percent. And that's a new idea. I bet they're great. ⁓ I know. I guarantee it. I I'd go I'd go for one. Yeah. Yeah. I'd go for one. Yeah, but I would never pay like twenty dollars for a drink that doesn't have alcohol like over and over again. Like that would be absolutely insane. Right, but I guess if you are truly sober, it's like you would you really care? You're not doing that Monday through Friday. Exactly. Yeah. ⁓ All right, I gotta let this cat out. She's gonna do it the whole time. It has to stop. but yeah, so we I I although I'm like anti Carl, I do hope Softbar continues to do well. And I I really think it will because he's gonna start try stay relevant as much as he can. Yeah, I think it will do good. I I don't know of anything else like that. No. Yeah for for a reason I guess, but what do we know? Right. If he starts expanding, then we'll know he's doing well. ⁓ and and he has the THC drinks. Yeah, yeah, So that's true. I mean true, true. Ding ding ding. I bet those wicked. And lot of people in New York smoke. I bet ⁓ those that twenty five dollar drink that that person was talking about had THC. It had to, right? I would think so, because that's juice is not that much. ⁓ you better get you Unless it's organic and like natural sweeteners. Have you ever had one of those? A T H C drink? High? No. I did two weekends ago and I didn't like it. Really? Yeah. I freaked out. Really? So it was like too much did you drink it too fast, do you think? Yeah, I think I did because I I tried one before Did you chug it? I tried one before that my friends came over with a few weeks ago and I was perfectly fine. Who, Jen? Yeah. Of course she has it. Yeah, well I'm not saying people's names on the podcast. Well, Jen's a valued listener. She is a valued listener. And she comments on everything. Hi Jen, we love you. I love you. ⁓ and it was really good. But whatever I tried, and I was like, this is I'm never doing. Again. Interesting. But there's so many different I guess that's like with actual like flower and stuff too. It's like you like this one but you don't like that one. This one makes you freak out. This one's fine. I bet it's okay. Okay. Or maybe you were just freaking out because it was a new form and you like, ⁓ my god, I don't know what to expect. Yeah, I think it would have spiraled. Yeah, I think I spiraled. But I'd try I try his, okay. Yeah, probably spiral in the middle of Softbar we definitely spiral in New York. Because then you'd step outside and be like Yeah. I think I'm actually spiraling just thinking about it. Anyways. Anyways. Lindsay says, and I this actually like warmed my heart. She was like, Carl, I feel like you have become the person that you've wanted to be and have needed to be. I know. Compliment from Lindsay Hubbard. I know. Is she catching feelings again? I don't know. She seems kind of desperate. I she talks about her sex life every chance. ⁓ my God. I know you didn't watch it, but her with the milkman in this fucking in the ⁓ I did. I ⁓ I saw that. Did you know that he dated Kelly Dodd? I'm not surprised. He's a freak. He was on that show for a scene. Yeah, he's a freak. He reminds me of Denise Richards. We have this is ridiculous. This is what I deal with. How did you at four AM I don't know what to do with her? You gotta Lucy, you gotta stop it. Actually you know what? Maybe I can give her a lickable. Lucy Bailey, it's not for you. Lucy. Do you more like ballerina? Cup baby. ⁓ baby? Yeah baby. Come baby. Come baby. Okay. Wait, yeah. And also going off of Lindsay talking about her dating, because Andy brings that up on the reunion. ⁓ she gives a little Easter egg, which I love using because I've been listening to Giggly, and they're talking about like Easter egg. Do you know what that means? Like when you give a hint or whatever. ⁓ she was like, You will definitely see more dating with me on in the city. And I was like, Did you hear Kyle? Is that just Milkman? Do you hear Kyle? He's I can't. Wait, I can't wait. I'm like Really, Kyle? Because I bet you will never watch a minute of that at all. Imagine if they ended up together. That'd be so wild. That would be incestuous Lindsay would send to us. Yeah. He would never But it would be like perfect because he wants kids. Like I feel bad. He's fucking forty something years old. Lindsay would eat him up and spit him out. But maybe that's what he needs. Maybe that will put him in line. Honestly, you nevah know. Yeah, who knows? That's just made me feel a little sick. I know. ⁓ although I do want to say ⁓ ⁓ this conversation it forms into Andy asking ⁓ cast their opinion after Lindsay and Carl did that ad together. Yeah. Post scandal. Yep. ⁓ Amanda, maybe she should have just waited until the others answered because that question wasn't like really for her. Like, you're not allowed to be upset about that. Is this when she talks about like monetizing breakups? Mm-hmm. And she's like, Lindsay, I would never do that to Yeah. It's like, although I do believe No, she goes, I would have never monetized on someone else's situation. I believe that she wouldn't. She doesn't seem like the type of person like that feels icky, and I feel like she is the type that would be like, That's gross. I she I mean she could have, she would have. She probably is right now. What? Carl and Lindsay broke up and she didn't do a thing. I d I do I think it's icky. However, that's not that's like icky in real life. This is reality TV. This is the name of the game. Right. Right. Amanda knows she saw she was here when Scandoval happened. Yep. She knows. And it's like it's true though, it's like there is the type of person that will monetize and the person that will not. There's no right or wrong answer, but Pick your battles. But if Ciara didn't care, then Amanda doesn't have a right to care. So that's that's the that on that. Exactly. ⁓ but she has no say anyway, so she needs to sit and just smile and be nice. And wait, I think at the same time, at so or at some point, ⁓ no, this was I wanted to bring this up after I said the comment about her saying, like, I'm so tired of them saying you're married, you're married. She also was saying, because this is when West went back to see her. She also was making comments about like Kyle and like his infidelity, but specifically stated that Kyle was going on quote unquote dates while they were married. Which I'm like, first off, why did you strategically say this backstage with just you and West when you know your mics are hot and not on the stage because you knew people were gonna be like, What are you talk like, why are you then throwing this? Like, I just I just can't with her. I'm sorry. Yeah, her and West clearly had many, many, many He even when he's trying to calm her down, he's like, Let's remember our goal here. I know. I'm like, I know. ⁓ you guys had a whole game which you need to. I mean, you'd be dumb to not come in with the game plan, but right. You should have thought of a different one because this one isn't working out. Yeah, no, I they're whatever they did plan for it, they both went opposite directions because West wanted to be like, Yeah, I I understand. I I'm a victim and I'm it feel bad for me. That's what he was playing that role the whole time with the facial expressions and not responding much. And like looking down. Yeah. And then they did talk about that. They're like, well, you don't say too much because you don't want them to go the other way and then harass you for that. Like, shut up. Yeah. I was No, you want to be honest and actually look like you're being a real human being and not playing this game still. And did you not? I would expect Amanda to know that. But Amanda, like, you know better than to not say. But you know what? She's just so not even in her right mind. I the my last note on this part of the scene was I you could just I feel in their heads like watching this because they're both like not even looking at each other, like they're spacing out when all this is happening. Specifically, Amanda was not looking at Kyle every time he talked, which I which I thought was incredibly rude and just like weird. I was like, why are you doing that? It's like the one person on the stage defending her and has hit her back the a hundred percent of this time, and that's nuts. And you won't even look at him. You know that her and West, like literally before they got to set to film this reunion, look at each other and we're like, We just have to get through this and then we get to go to Italy. You finished it. Okay. You're not messing with this cord again. You have to stop. Okay, what were you just saying? ⁓ wait, yeah, let me hit mine. Yeah. Stop. No, I'm trying to see if the camera moves now that I put that bag there. ⁓ Or if it stabilized it. I can see it. Lucy, no. Get down. If you mess this camera up, I'll literally murder you on the spot. No, you do. All right. What were you saying? Okay. So you know that before they arrived on set, like they were both just like, babe, we gotta get through this and then we're off to Italy. ⁓ my god, I know. Do you know what? So again, just spreading lies and slander, but I did see so you know how they went to the his family's wedding in Italy? Yep. Somebody posted the RSVP for the wedding, and you had to RSVP for this fucking wedding in February. Interesting. ⁓ here comes the timeline. So that's wild because so they were 100% fucking this the entire time summer house was filmed. Well, I I strongly believe it. I believe emotional, you believe more than that. Yeah. ⁓ either way, they're just in Italy right now living their best lives. ⁓ okay, so ⁓ then they start talking about Amanda and Kyle and their ⁓ And Amanda reveals that they have not been intimate for four years. Yeah, that's wild. I know that Bravo can't like dig into this too much, but I like I I j Do we mean actually four years or like only like once every like few months? That's four years. There's no way. There's no way because there's scenes from last season of Summer House where they're talking about having a child. Why would you even be having conversations about that if you're not sexually? active together. Well, I mean, a lot of people do that and they have to like plan when they have sex and stuff. Well yeah, but you wouldn't really that conversation if your sex life is zero for that many years, would you really be talking about like let's progress and bring a child into this? Well, they really talked about the child like three seasons ago when they were looking at houses and ⁓ that was three seasons ago? Last last season she was like, I don't think I'm ready for kids. Yeah, that's when they were at like dinner or something and she was like, No, Kyle, I'm not doing that. Yeah, I don't know. That that's wild. I know you make babies through sex, but definitely I'd say that it doesn't But so okay, let's say they actually haven't been intimate or had sex in four years. Yep. Do you think that it's still that horrible that Kyle was stepping out. I mean don't do that to me. I know. Cause that's a tough one. I mean you do have certain roles you need to fill as a wife if you're not giving it to your husband. Unfortunately, the men formulate that into I gotta find it somewhere. Well it's ⁓ well it's up. Well it's up to the men to leave. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But it does no man is gonna make that decision, unfortunately. It does put it in a different light. If they genuinely have not had sex in four years, it doesn't make what he did better, but I can understand it more. How about that? Yeah. How about that? Yeah. Yep. ⁓ so she pretty much says that the nail in the coffin was New Year's when she did not go with him to his gig. And she woke up the next morning and saw that he had gotten a freaking hotel. Yes. And they This was supposed to be the morning that they wake up with fresh beginnings, new intentions, and he's doing the same old shit and she's like, That's a nail in the coffin for me. Right. It But didn't he so she thought he got a hotel with someone, right? I don't think that's what she was insinuating. I think that the point being is you're doing the same old shit that you're staying out all night, not coming home when you said you would, and it's right. I'm waking up alone again. My worry though is that Amanda again is trying to paint Kyle in this Horrible light when yes, he did a lot of bad things and made a lot of bad decisions and reacted really poorly to a lot of things and treated her bad. But like, are you trying to put more fluff in these things and make him look worse because you're in the position that you're in and no one else is going to be able to prove it? How about this? How about there's a huge possibility that she's not. you know, over orchestrating anything. She's saying the things that she's been hiding for the last ten years. Amanda has been protecting him for ten years. I guarantee she's not making anything up, not fluffing. I think K ⁓ Kyle is a horrible Alright, you were saying Kyle is a horrible nail in the coffin. Yeah, it's all fucked up. Yeah, he's just Kyle sucks. I don't think she needs to say anything to make him look bad. I think he does that all on his own. She's just no longer protecting him. And she's it's just now very convenient to your point that she's bringing this up now when she is the bad guy and he's not. I think that But where's the receipts? The receipts, we saw it for ten years. He cheated on her many times. Well no, I know, but like post marriage, do we have receipts of all the stuff that she's claiming now? Like going on dates, like doing this, doing that. ⁓ I don't know. Where are the receipts? Because I would imagine these girls, at least one of them, would be a fucking asshole and be like, Let me blow this guy's fucking spot up because now I know he's on Summer House and he's married to Amanda Batula. Thats what she's saying she has videos Yes, I do remember that piece. Yeah. It's it's the it's But not to the degree that she's saying is what I'm saying. You really think that she's making any of that up? I don't I think she's fluffing some of it. I don't. To paint the picture. I don't. I I as much as much as I don't want to think that of Kyle, he's just she's shown it like so many times. Yeah. But she accepted it. she did. She did. So then we could just go right into the Cartier watch thing. ⁓ ⁓ ⁓ she he should have never bought her that. Well well, no shit. But but Andy's like bet he regrets that now. Andy was like, So ⁓ you know ⁓ we got a lot of viewer opinions on you comparing ⁓ Kyle to the wolf of Wall Street. ⁓ And West was like, I don't know why I said it like that. Like I was just really upset because he got her that beautiful watch and later that night called her a bitch. I was just in my feelings and it was supposed to be funny, but it wasn't. And Kyle's like That was a highlight of my summer, and you took it away from me. Yeah, and didn't I'm like, relax that was a highlight of your summer. Right. But also, didn't West make some sort of comment in commentary or something that, like, ⁓ is he gonna say, like, fuck you, bitch, and buy her a yacht? Yeah. Like, shut the fuck up. Yeah. And and this goes back to like clear and Kyle even said, and Andy, do your job because Kyle said, I feel like you were trying to make me look worse because you saw that this was coming, right? Like you positioned. And West was like, I don't need to make you look worse. And like that randomly cut it shut Kyle up and he like backed down and I'm like, Kyle, no, you're on to something. Yeah. This was that comment was going like preemptive. Like he literally like, you had the nail Andy. Yeah. Tell him to fuck up. West, stop telling me. No, Andy's being very passive. I feel like he's like feeling like he's like out of his game here and he's like, I gotta just let them do what they do. I'm surprised by Andy again in part two. Yeah, I mean it's yeah. I it was a But again I think Andy's learning this stuff now. ⁓ yeah, Andy is like literally living the dream right now. And he's like, What, what, what? And I also think the fact that Andy now has two growing children and he has to give them a lot of attention now that they're getting older, it's harder for him to keep up with all this stuff online. 'Cause it's wild. Yeah, he has a daughter and a son. ⁓ that's awesome. I didn't know that. Yeah, Ben and Lily, I wanna say. ⁓ What? Is that her name? Lily? Yeah, they they sound so cute, but he doesn't show them. ⁓ good for him. Yeah. ⁓ okay, so Kyle says that the summer was doomed on night one when Amanda said that he only had his DJ career to spite her. Yeah. It's like, ⁓ let's, Kyle, let's just stay quiet with that one. Yeah. ⁓ but th this was interesting. So that led into, I think it was Andy, maybe it was here. Someone said like it's interesting that your biggest gripe with Kyle is that he's going out and now you're with a guy that all he does is go out. Well, that's when Amanda makes the I'm single comment because she's called out on the fact that she's been going out a ton and doing whatever she wants, which leads me back to my point about all the heels she packed up for this month. fucking one month away in my own apartment. Like you fucking asshole. You were going out with West You were partying it up. Like get the fuck out of here. And you weren't fucking single. You weren't fucking single. You weren't single. Unless a judge says here's your divorce decree. You're not fucking single. And I I think even Ciara was like, I thought you hated going out. Right. Which AKA it's like yeah, so did you just borrow Paige's personality for three seasons? Because Paige, Paige girly girl actually does not like to go out. Yeah. She does not. She likes her bed. Unless it's like Victoria Beckham's event or like Zendaya invites her out. Like that's the only way she's gonna go out. So it's like Kate Middleton. I felt like that was just like a little like jab from Ciara, like what I thought that's who you were. Yeah. And that's not who you are anymore. Okay. But I just want to point something out. Okay. And I I've I've said this before the scandal even happened. Yeah. Of course, Amanda likes fun. She's a human being. Of course. Of course she likes going out. She does not like going out with Kyle. Kyle embarrasses her, embarrasses himself. He gets aggressive. He is argumentative. He literally is that guy. Which he did in the initial seasons of Summer House when we were introduced to Amanda. They were fighting about his drinking and the way he acted while he was out. So this was already a conflict very early on. Right, but either way, she doesn't want to go out with. Kyle. So when people are like, I just don't understand how you could be going out now. It's like, guys, come on, let's like let's not be dumb now. Of course. Which is crazy because I wonder what it's like going out with West, because I can't imagine it's any better. And I'm sure he's spreading himself to everyone around and being the party guy and likable and girls. Well, the the thing is, Kyle, it's because he was that guy, like belligerent, embarrassing. It's It's not that he was if he was just the life of the party, that Amanda would have been fine with that. She likes her when her husband or boyfriend is good and everybody likes him. Kyle got to a point that it was like out of control. So it's like, mmm, sorry, drunk Kyle, not fun. Right. So I get it. Now with the whole West thing though, and this, ⁓ this, this, this is But also to be fair, especially on Summer House, why are you declining going out on certain nights out when your entire cast is out? And often you can go out, Kyle's over there, you're over here enjoying with your friends. Because Kyle always makes a scene, dude. It's I don't feel like he always makes a scene. Having a partner that is aggressive when they drink and loud, it's like the amount of stress that must have done to her. I ⁓ yeah. I feel for her. So I I I wouldn't want to go out if with Kyle if he were my husband either. Not with that track record. Yeah. That's valid. But But but the thing, ⁓ so, but Kyle does say, which I found interesting, he's like, You're gonna try to paint me, like all I do is party, and I'm a like this abusive husband. Like, you're literally this guy parties twice as hard as I do. Did you notice how both of them just shut up? Yep. And so I don't know if you remember, there was like I don't even know. I saw the video, no one really knows what they saw, but I did see it for myself. ⁓ at West when he was out and standing kind of like alone by himself. And Somebody was filming him to be like, my god, it's West Wilson at the same time that his dealer, alleged dealer, came, dabbed him up to give him something, which of course people were, you know, speculating it was probably like C---e or something. Yeah. ⁓ and I feel like Kyle was like, Wait, did you see the other video that I'm referring to where he's it's dark, he's in like a club or somewhere, and he's standing there and he looks at his hand like this and goes, ⁓ oh my god, you didn't see ⁓ Yeah. And it's a hundred percent. There's there's nothing else you're doing like this. Yeah. What? I gotta find it and send it to you because it's yeah, so you see the one I'm talking about? No. Okay. Well we gotta track those down. Yeah. Twitter. I can find everything, don't worry. Okay. ⁓ but Kyle did mention like steroids earlier. Yeah. About and I'm like, wait, that's ⁓ people don't like dap you up to give you roids, do ⁓ Just get those at the gym. Like what it had to have been, right? So I think that's what Kyle steroids are typically gonna come in a vial. Okay. So that's not how is he on steroids? Because he doesn't look jacked. No, there's no way. What's the why did Kyle? Right. Well, yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. But I but they backed down the second, and I know Amanda was probably like ki and also I think Kyle's a good enough guy that he realizes that is like life ending information to say out loud. I don't think he would have said that. regardless of Amanda anything. Right. He's that ruins lives. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because us saying it, it is speculation. If anyone on that cast says anything, everyone's gonna take that as the truth. A hundred percent. Period. So So be careful what they fucking say. Yeah, you could see them. Right. Like you can see Amanda and West just like and I'm like, ⁓ my god, is Amanda doing it with him? 'Cause he's like you're out till four o'clock in the morning. I'm sure. Why would you But this this girl passes out at eleven o'clock at night. I know. I don't know. ⁓ that's why I think you know she really morphed because ⁓ she had to create this story, so so Amanda's like, you know what? I need to get the heat off me and West for a second. We find out that before the premiere party, Kyle made out with Sally Carson. ⁓ my god, I know. Sally Carson. I would do anything to know what Paige Desorbo has to say about this after Sally was, you know, after Craig. It's like Sally, Sally, Sally, Sally. So what are you doing? ⁓ this actually brings up a great point. She's so desperate. I have I have something to tell you. I don't know if you saw this yet. What? Because I contemplated sending it to you and then I was like, maybe it would be funnier if I just tell her on the pod. Yeah. Lala. ⁓ my god. Okay. So Lala. ⁓ my god. On her podcast mentions that she hears that Kyle is a killer in bed and she'll let him like take her for a spin if he lets her. I think I sent it to you, yes, on on Instagram. Yes, yes. Well, I listened to her podcast, I heard it. ⁓ and I like, so I ⁓ did Lala hear this being Kyle being a killer in bed from Sally Carson? Did they do more of the makeout? Or was it from ⁓ Megan King ⁓ I don't ⁓ he's claiming they didn't. do anything other than like he's claiming that was Sally too. So who did Lala here for not Amanda? They haven't had sex in four years. I don't know, but is Lala just trying to insert herself? Cause the Valley's a fucking snooze? Yeah, and La ⁓ I would love to see that. Wait. Bringing up she's sober. She could never be with him. Bringing up Megan as a king Edmund. Yeah. Uhhuh. ⁓ how fucking funny was it when Lindsay was making fun of Kyle and being like, you were on your tippies. You're on your tippies. And he's like, No, no, no, no, no. My my my pants were baggy. You you couldn't tell. You can't tell. It's like my feet were planted as to the ground. Like Kyle, no, we all know you were fucking on your tiptoes. Dude, it was so And why are you asking her to go across the street to hide from people taking pictures? But like you think that just on the opposite side of the street they're not gonna find you? Like that whole story makes no sense. Yeah. So funny. I love it. I just he's like, we can go over here. I'm like, ⁓ I know and dummy. He's no, we definitely won't be seen here. diagonal from where you were seen and they're not following you. Right. And they're like, you can see them and they can see you. Yeah. You're so smart. I'm like, ⁓ you got no, he wouldn't have she she wouldn't have let him do that on purpose though, because she's like custody battle right Yeah, no, she needs to keep it PG and clean. I hated her husband. ⁓ yeah, he's a he was such an asshole. Baseball player. They they're usually. But he has custody. She lost custody. So it's like no. Which I don't he probably has a really good lawyer, which is really unfortunate. ⁓ well that but that's but that's the point. That's the point. It's like crazy. Yeah. ⁓ really scary. So now it so you know, whatever. We talk about Sally, this other charm. Kyle's like it's just a kiss. Then then it turns into like, okay, let's take a break. Yeah. Now we get backstage. Right. And it's Ciara on FaceTime. And who is she FaceTiming? Meija! ⁓ my goodness. ⁓ Meija is stunning. She is really pretty. And she obviously had no makeup on, and she's sitting in natural light, like just glowing and looking amazing. And I actually felt bad for her when she was crying. She literally is the most beautiful girl I've ever seen. But how? strategic and fucking amazing are you Ciara for immediately saying I know this girl's name I'm gonna find her page and I'm going to get in touch with her and we're gonna be BFFs and we're going to fuck this guy over. Kyle reached out to Meija And Mihawk gave Kyle all the information and Kyle said, With your permission, I want to share this with Ciara. Gotcha, gotcha. Yes, because he did say we've been going back and forth for like a month and I learned a lot and it's changed the way I see West Kyle reached out to Mihawk because he said curiosity got the best of hands. Yes, okay, you're right, you're right. But the fact that Ciara was like, Well, let me really nurse this relationship and like become tight, because that's gonna get to West so fucking bad. Listen, I'm gonna save Summer House single handedly for next year, right now. Get freaking Meija on the cast! She needs to come. I want I would like for Mija. I think Ciara needs to get out of this toxic life. Yeah. I really But I I'd like to give one more season. But I do want one more fun season with just like Paige's last season where she's checked out. I would like Ciara, Miss Meija now. Okay. Yep. And Sabrina. Yeah. Like this is a chaotic cast. Yeah. And Dara. Yes, all of them. Let's throw everybody And I want Hannah Berner and I Paige DeSorbo. ⁓ yes. Well, that's never gonna happen. I know. But imagine could come back early. I got Hannah. I would love to props. Hannah needs to sh they're so over like above Bravo now, but I would love for Hannah to have some kind of like redemption arc with Bravo. Not that she gives a fuck anymore, but I would love to see her on my screen. I know. Giggly squad isn't enough. I love them so much and I This is so funny because every time I listen to them, I always feel like so Paige sometimes laughs and it sounds like you. And I feel like you know how like gigglers always say like I'm more Paige Paige coded or I feel you're Paige coded. Yep. And I'm Hannah coded. I definitely can see it. Hundred percent. I think I think I can see it dipping into both waters. But gun to our head, you have to choose one right now. Definitely Paige Hannah. Yes, exactly. My God, I would love to talk to them. ⁓ my god. That'd be so crazy. Call us girlies. One day, hopefully dreams can come true. Hopefully. So I mean but yeah. Yeah. Meija that. But this is the craziest thing I know talking to her and hearing all this and like I added this to the timeline here. So so where is it? March twenty-fourth. ⁓ no no no, not that wait. So Meija says on this FaceTime, they've been together the entire time from when they picked up filming. And they were already together. Yes. And every weekend he would come home, which is interesting because he wasn't seen in a lot of the city shots that they do after they get back from the summer house. And he was with Meija and that was going on the whole time. And then he dumped her right before the statement was released. Mm-hmm. So this whole Whole start of Amanda and West, he had a girlfriend who he was saying, I love you so much. And I can't and I can't tell people that I'm dating you because I need to protect you and I might lose my job. I'm gonna get fired. Although, although, although. Which which is that has happened, but it was because it was hidden. If you go into filming saying I have a girlfriend, they would have just said, All right, well, you're clearly like a main cast member. We'll have your girlfriend come in on some visits and scenes, and that's what it is. So you're a fucking liar, West, because there's no reason you would get fired if you told them from the get-go. Not to give like this rat any credit, but then then how come Ben found himself in the same exact are we sure Ben's a fucking psychopath? Listen, I'm just saying, are we positive that there aren't rogue producers ruining something for everybody out there? I a hundred percent I'm concerned now. I'm concerned. Sorry, let me clarify. I think Ben, because he's so new, he's not established, he just came on this season. Right. You come in with a girlfriend, then they're probably gonna be like, Well, this is kind of a waste of time, and you're just gonna be like housing up with your girlfriend. West has been a there, he's been a staple, he's had all the Ciara drama. You weren't fucking gonna get fired. You're just a fucking asshole and you were already fucking around with Amanda. In fact, you might get, you know, even more airtime with this girlfriend. Yeah. Who seems way too nice and normal and awesome for reality TV. I really I'm I really hope she doesn't join. Selfishly, I hope she does for herself. I hope she lives her beautiful life with the horse hair tie necklaces. Whatever they are. She would have blew up with just those. They probably would have had a horse hair tie party. I don't know. Right. What the fuck? He was He's so stupid. Yeah, he really fucked her over. But again, he wants to be that manipulator and I can have my cake and I can eat it too. Yes, and that's the whole theme. That's the whole theme Dara is pushing is it is the West show and he'll get what he wants and it's easy for him. He does this shit with his eyes closed. It's past the salt for him. No, it's insane. So they end this with Ciara saying Kyle walks in and then Ciara says, Can we call her? Well, when we get back out there. So I am dying if to see if they let her call this girl. I cannot imagine they don't. I'm sure they will. I think maybe you know, I don't maybe Mejia will answer my DM. I hope so. Miha, come on the podcast. What's happening? I told Tim and he was like, You think she's gonna come on your show with 20 subscribers and it only have two episodes. But so I know. I know. I was like that's the thing. Like she's gonna look it She's gonna be like, this is fake. I mean, she do you know the biggest podcasts in Bravo must have reached out to her. Hundred percent. She must get a million a day now. Yeah, exactly. And and now, especially since part two has been released and she's been on film and like her name is out there. I was like, Tim, are you saying I'm not good? And I was wrong with the quote she had said in the comment. It actually said. If I was out there, the cops would have been called. It wasn't they would have heart attack. The cops would have been called. So that would be amazing. But yeah, she really needs to come guest star because we would love that. ⁓ and we can mutually or anyone, anyone get her on the show. We need like even if they have her FaceTime, I need more than that. I need I need her to just talk about it for an hour. Yep. I need her to come on Summer House next season. I want all the texts. I want everything. Everything. Yeah. Well, hopefully we get more answers next week. Yeah. ⁓ wild, but I'm gonna be so sad when this ends, and we're gonna have to just focus on in the city, but we also have Love Island, USA, season eight. Yes, so that we'll definitely cover here and there. It comes out every there's a new episode every day. Every day? ⁓ see, she guys doesn't watch Love Island and ⁓ I feel like I used to in the past, but ⁓ yeah. Every day except for Tuesdays. ⁓ oh my god, what is wrong with them? It's real time. It's real time. That's what makes the show so big. ⁓ So when you vote, like right now, Paige says she likes UK the best. It is the best. Australia is really good. US is the worst one. Really? It's the worst one. And people that don't really watch Love Island will fight you on it and say no, because they had one good season. UK is the original. Yeah. Australia has the best looking cast. Every single one of these franchises, besides US, has like at least like seven, eight, nine, ten seasons. Yeah. US, I think, is on season four. four. Yep. And it's like the redheaded stepchild to the other one. No, season eight, this is. Of US? Love Island. There's Love Island UK, Love Island Australia. Love Island Love Island US. Because remember yesterday I was texting you saying is it season seven that I'm supposed to be watching? And then I was like, ⁓ wait, no, it's season eight. No. Yes. This is season eight, the new one. ⁓ oh my god. Either way Because I saw it come up on Peacock too. It was like season eight, episode one, now streaming. Well you can't it's not something you can always cover cover like you think because it comes out every single day. Okay. But we will need something other than in the city and hopefully Well the reunion for Real Housewives is being filmed soon. ⁓ Rhode Island, sorry. ⁓ we'll definitely have to cover that. Did you know that they're crazy. ⁓ I just found this out. You know how like slam pig? Yeah. Do you know that's just a New England thing? They said that on Rhode Island. No, yeah, yeah, I know. And people online are freaking out being like That's a I've also heard that and I never knew the actual meaning. It's about ⁓ guys that fuck fat girls. Ugly fat girls. That's the actual meaning. Yeah. That's so fucked up. I don't I thought it was just like a like a almost like a whore. ⁓ that's what I thought it was too. No, it's specifically like a fat, ugly girl that you're fucking. Okay. Just to fuck. You have no feelings, you hate them, and you think they're ugly as fuck, but you're fucking them because you need to fuck. Okay, well guess what? That came from here. That's fucked. New England. Yeah, fuck New England. And everyone in the world is like, What's the slam pig? And I'm like, What do you mean? Yeah, I and now I'm finding out that's like great. Just throw that onto the New England name. Thanks a lot. All right. All right, we gotta go. I need to Yeah, enough is enough. Eat watch Love Island. Yeah, I need to watch that too. I'm excited. ⁓ I'm so excited. No, I have two episodes because you're saying it drops twice. ⁓ no, because I probably won't get the second episode till tomorrow. Because it's delayed a day because I don't have live TV. No, it's it's on Hulu. It's Hulu? ⁓ I thought it was just Peacock. ⁓ great. Awesome. Maybe it I don't know. Wait. They are stream on so many different channels. ⁓ it's so that is so infuriating. Like pick one and fuck off. Especially with the love island It's like, all right, enough. Right. Like I can't even finish euphoria, but like that's enough. Enough is enough. Good night. Yeah, I can. We're gonna talk about that after. Shaboozey. Shaboozey baby! Good night! ⁓