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136 What's Hiding in the Bark? The Strange Truth About Bigfoot! · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul on my front the chield,
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  Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
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  Speaker 1: just the weight of it just puts pushed down, and
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  Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
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  Speaker 1: started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it. And
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  Speaker 2: then while I was holding it, but it's like the
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  Speaker 2: ground underneath me.
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  Speaker 3: Just kind of opened up and I just kind of
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  Speaker 3: fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking, like there was a
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  Speaker 2: complete like just like blankness to his face, like there
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  Speaker 2: was this there was nothing there. I rubbed my corn
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  Speaker 2: my truck, I jump out the truck and tuck, and
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  Speaker 2: that's what I knew it was. That was this gold Man.
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  Speaker 1: There would be a real low guttural crowd.
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  Speaker 3: One more step and he's going to be in clear view.
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  Speaker 3: And he takes that one.
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  Speaker 2: More step and he just it was like he just
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  Speaker 2: stepped behind an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the ch everyone. This is episode one
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  Speaker 2: and thirty six with Michael Adams. Michael Adams is a
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  Speaker 2: former podcaster, a former YouTuber, and a big foot researcher. Also,
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  Speaker 2: it's a lot of paranormal things involved with that that
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  Speaker 2: happened at his home.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: He also brought up some interesting theories and interesting thoughts
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  Speaker 2: and so, you know, some some things that I've never
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  Speaker 2: quite heard before. And I'll let Michael get into that.
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  Speaker 2: So stick around and enjoy that with Michael. So, first
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  Speaker 2: of all, I want to say, what's again? Hello, Hello
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  Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed this episode with Michael Adams.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Man? Thanks?
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for inviting me, tom Or.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked for you. Were like, man, I want
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  Speaker 2: to talk to you already beforehand, and we talked. I
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  Speaker 2: looked at the phone, and I looked at my phone.
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  Speaker 2: After I talked to you, it was forty eight minutes
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, we had a hell of
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  Speaker 2: a conversation. I didn't even realize it. So thanks for
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  Speaker 2: accepting my invitation, man, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, you know, it's been a while and I fearous
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  Speaker 3: time to share my story once more time.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough, man, fair enough to tell me how this
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  Speaker 2: all began for you?
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  Speaker 3: Man, Well, well let's see the beginning of twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: Like I told you, I was a truther. I was
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  Speaker 3: a guy that was on the internet. I was a
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  Speaker 3: Christian truther at the time, and I was doing a
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  Speaker 3: lot of research on stuff like the heliocentric model, the
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  Speaker 3: geocentric model, and the flatter of model, along with studying
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  Speaker 3: in the scriptures and all that stuff, along with studying
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  Speaker 3: all the other horrendous things that are out there in
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  Speaker 3: the world. Right and I got really disappointed in the
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  Speaker 3: truth Or movement because of his going nowhere as usual
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  Speaker 3: and it's still incentive his dady, and and also at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, I started discovering what the Bible actually says.
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to talk to my fellow Christians at
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  Speaker 3: the time, and they didn't want it to have that conversation.
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  Speaker 3: So I got this a chant with that. So I said,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, screw everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Was the big.
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  Speaker 3: You signed that I could give to all of them
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  Speaker 3: that I could research, And I said, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go after Bigfoot. Everybody thinks is a joke.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was a joke, and I said, you
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  Speaker 3: know what, I'll prove that it's it's a government sie.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So what I did is I I started interviewing guys
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  Speaker 3: I started out with a guy named Dustin Duncan, and
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  Speaker 3: Dustin he was this guy that had and I think
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  Speaker 3: he's in Missouri. It's been a while, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen, so anyways, he was. He had an
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  Speaker 3: experience that sounded very traumatized from it. He was hunting
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  Speaker 3: the gut pile from the deer that he got disappeared
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  Speaker 3: and then ended up seeing something in the edge of
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  Speaker 3: the woods and disturbed him for many many years or
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  Speaker 3: after that. But in the process he shared a story.
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  Speaker 3: I reached out to him. I said, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: know how to do this, and just reached out to
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  Speaker 3: people talked to him through him. I met M. K.
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  Speaker 3: Davis and others like that. And after about six months
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  Speaker 3: of doing that, interviewing people and learned about tree structures,
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  Speaker 3: communicating a little bit with Colin around of Bigfoot and
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  Speaker 3: all these guys, I said, you know, I am never
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  Speaker 3: going to know if this is the truth or not
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  Speaker 3: unless I go do it myself. I'm going have to
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  Speaker 3: go out there in the woods there and see if
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  Speaker 3: what these guys are talking about is the truth. So
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  Speaker 3: I remember that was the beginning of July twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: I went out to a place called Oak Openings. I
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  Speaker 3: live in northwest Ohio and Oak Openings there with my
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  Speaker 3: son and that he would have been around eight at
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  Speaker 3: the time, and we pulled our size the road. There
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  Speaker 3: were some sand dunes on to the left of us
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  Speaker 3: that would be the east of us, and to the
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  Speaker 3: west of us for the right there's woods. Right, so
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  Speaker 3: I covered up, couldn't see anything. All the undergrow so
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  Speaker 3: you couldn't see into the woods. I say, let's go
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  Speaker 3: in the woods. So we go walk in the woods.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not making this up, and none of the
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  Speaker 3: things I'm going to share with you, I'm not making up.
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  Speaker 3: And if you don't believe me, I don't blame you,
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  Speaker 3: because before all this stuff happened, I wouldn't have believed
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  Speaker 3: me either. So so, but what happens. We walked in
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  Speaker 3: there and ten fifteen feet from where we're at there
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  Speaker 3: was the biggest tepee structure that I've seen in my
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  Speaker 3: in my area and all the time of my field research.
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  Speaker 3: And it was so we walk under there, we walk
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  Speaker 3: around it, and I'm like, Wow, how could this possibly
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  Speaker 3: be happening? This cannot be And that was the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of the high strangeness of the summer twenty seventeen. Remember
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  Speaker 3: it led into the I don't know where you're at
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  Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: But stay Germany. Germany.
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  Speaker 3: You probably won't pay attention to it, but states there was,
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  Speaker 3: Hey there's a thunder man. Maybe I'll join you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those podcasts are a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a background you guys want to chill out and relax.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: So uh yeah. So as leading up to August twenty
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  Speaker 3: first of twenty seventeen, there's a solar eclipse that was
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  Speaker 3: a big deal. Everyone was talking about it, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: but leading up to that, I started paying attention to things,
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  Speaker 3: start filming stuff, and I started filming the trees because
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm just with my cell phone, just doing
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  Speaker 3: what the guy's doing, walking around, and I start noticing
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  Speaker 3: some things. And the first sighting that I had was
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  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks into it. This all hitdened to
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  Speaker 3: me really fast once I get into this stuff, right,
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  Speaker 3: and so there it was a couple of weeks into it.
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  Speaker 3: It was a Friday night, and this is my first siding,
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  Speaker 3: and I uh going to a couple of places that
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  Speaker 3: I was researching. If you will, I guess it's best
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  Speaker 3: as you could call it under just do it yourself, right,
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  Speaker 3: going through these areas and and film and stuff and
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  Speaker 3: observing all that. And there's a lot of weirdness. I
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  Speaker 3: remember that night he cut the air like with a knife.
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  Speaker 3: It was so thick and it was really bizarre feeling.
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  Speaker 3: And I was walking in some fields that ah, and
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  Speaker 3: now I've turned into condos condoms, yeah, but at the
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  Speaker 3: time it was. And there was a creek it's called
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  Speaker 3: ten Mile Creek that run from uh west to east.
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  Speaker 3: I was north of it now I would say it
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  Speaker 3: was about uh around one hundred yards or less. And
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  Speaker 3: as I'm walking closer to the creek in the field
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  Speaker 3: on the other side, I see, uh, this this dude.
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  Speaker 3: My two my two daytime sids. Both of them were
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  Speaker 3: like the color of a deer, that color of the
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  Speaker 3: white deal. But there was massive and this it was
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  Speaker 3: a path on the other side of this creek and
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  Speaker 3: whatever that was. At first I thought it was a
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  Speaker 3: dude in the hoodie suit. But it was superhumid that night,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, and it went one, two three, and
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  Speaker 3: it covered at least the same about one hundred yards
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  Speaker 3: more from east to west, and it was he and
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  Speaker 3: it was hunched back and hunched over, and whatever it was,
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  Speaker 3: it would have been twice the size or more of
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  Speaker 3: a man, six foot man or something of that. At
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  Speaker 3: least it appeared that way. And it went from I
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  Speaker 3: couldn't tell you the actual size, but it had to
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  Speaker 3: be closer to my society, and it went west the east.
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  Speaker 3: In like three seconds, I'm like, what the hell was that?
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  Speaker 3: And then then maybe ten minutes later, I'm over these
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  Speaker 3: apartments and it was kind of nice. I was a hotel.
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  Speaker 3: He's a hotel, and there's a guy there, like a
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  Speaker 3: nine one on one license place, and I went up
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  Speaker 3: there because there was stuff going on and it was
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  Speaker 3: weird that night, and I'm wondered, you know, what's this
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  Speaker 3: guy with not more on one license plates right where
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  Speaker 3: I'm at? And how's the audio?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's just loud on my d that's my fault.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 3: I can and I know what's going on. And I say,
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  Speaker 3: and I said, I said, I know it's a white
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  Speaker 3: license plates and he says four one one. I just
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  Speaker 3: learned about that and four o one stuff. And back
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  Speaker 3: then I'm like what And I'm like, this cannot be happening.
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  Speaker 3: Does this guy know there's something going on around here?
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm seeing stuff and there's places I'm going and
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  Speaker 3: checking out, and there's some it seems like some activity
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  Speaker 3: going on that correlates or relates to this thing called Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 3: And it was just a strange not I'll never forget it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah if uh this here was some lightning right there? Uh,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah there was mine to hear my lightning.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, different parts of the world, same storm.
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  Speaker 3: And I am, you know, maybe a week week and
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  Speaker 3: a half later, I'm talking to my brother, my big brother.
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  Speaker 3: Now he had an experience with his wife in California
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  Speaker 3: up there and but and you county, I think his
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  Speaker 3: Buke County or close to it. Forget right. He'll correct
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  Speaker 3: me if he hears this, and so he he knew
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  Speaker 3: that they existed. And uh, I said to my brother Eric,
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  Speaker 3: I said, dude, I don't think that these things when
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  Speaker 3: I'm filming and what I'm experienced, this doesn't seem like
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  Speaker 3: flesh and blood stuff I wanst talking about. Is there
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  Speaker 3: a possibility to think called something spiritual in nature? And
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  Speaker 3: he says something to me said, not making myself. He said, don't.
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  Speaker 3: Now that you're starting to figure this stuff out, don't
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  Speaker 3: be surprised if you start running across First Nation people
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  Speaker 3: and I go, why is that? Because they understand there's
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  Speaker 3: something more going on than the flesh and blood stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay, less than twenty four hours, I'm downtown, and
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  Speaker 3: my downtown the place I live now, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 3: it's called Sylvania. Heck, you want to come here and
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  Speaker 3: just go ahead. It's changed so much to fricking eight years.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care because now I'm telling me of my
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  Speaker 3: experience and what I've This ship's ever excuse me, everywhere,
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  Speaker 3: So it's not just uniquely one place. So you just
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  Speaker 3: have to start being observant and pay attention to things.
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  Speaker 3: Just for my observation. Uh So, with less than twenty
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  Speaker 3: four hours, I'm at this a little a little Caesar's Pizza,
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  Speaker 3: getting a pizza. I come out and walking up the
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  Speaker 3: hill on the road there as a guy that looks
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  Speaker 3: just like a First Nation to now, it's a big
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  Speaker 3: deal where I'm at because there is none at least
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  Speaker 3: back I had not had not known if any that
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  Speaker 3: lived in my area. And now if you go out
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  Speaker 3: further north in Michigan because I live right onto the
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  Speaker 3: border of Michigan. Literally, you can it's it's yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: less than a mile from what I'm saying right now
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  Speaker 3: the border. So and I'm like, you know, this cannot
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  Speaker 3: be happening. So I said, what's the what is there
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  Speaker 3: to lose? So I go talk to this guy. I
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  Speaker 3: asked him you are you Native? American? Says yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: I tell him who I am. My name is Mike,
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  Speaker 3: and he says, yeah, I mean this crow. I go,
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  Speaker 3: why are you called coral? And he says, well, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna crow Indian and all my friends called the crow
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  Speaker 3: because of that. I said all right, and I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you want to have some PiZZ him? So he said yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and you look a little rough and like he'd been
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  Speaker 3: doing some walking and could use it. So he had
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  Speaker 3: a couple of pieces and we're talking start talking about Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 3: Say as watching if you know if you have any
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  Speaker 3: experiences with that, and he said yeah, I saw him
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  Speaker 3: California and in Montdana. And I said, dude, I think
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  Speaker 3: I found what I believe is a nest in a
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  Speaker 3: ravine less than a mile where we're at. You want
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  Speaker 3: to go check it out. And I said, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: tell you what afterwards, I'll take you home, because he
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  Speaker 3: said he was walking home. So I said it was
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  Speaker 3: about three miles away. I said, all right, I have
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  Speaker 3: to take you home. Over talking. So we're seeing what
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  Speaker 3: we're hitting now. And so we go there and this
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  Speaker 3: is you know, it's getting it's about like this time.
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  Speaker 3: So actually it's it's actually but I think it was
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  Speaker 3: on the ninth. Actually in today's the ninth in twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 3: so and it's like a Thursday. And so we get
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  Speaker 3: there and it's getting dark, just turning dusk, and in
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  Speaker 3: the ravine there we pull them there and we and
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  Speaker 3: it's the drive is real close to Ravene. So we
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  Speaker 3: would get out of the car when we looked down
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  Speaker 3: at this ravine and said, this is where it's at.
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  Speaker 3: I said, that tree a week ago was eighty feet
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  Speaker 3: tall and something somehow it broke about six to seven
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  Speaker 3: feet up in the air, smashed and there's things that
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  Speaker 3: you could take two guys to put your arms around
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  Speaker 3: the right, okay, And it was leaning down in the
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  Speaker 3: ravine and I said, I'm telling you, I'm seeing something
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  Speaker 3: I've been noticed that the past couple of days or
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  Speaker 3: there's something. There's like these black like shadowy looking heads.
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  Speaker 3: It turned in the raven there. I think there might
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  Speaker 3: be something down there. So he does this the hollwer
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  Speaker 3: thing that people do or at the bigfoot howl, and
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't do it, And and he throws a pizza
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  Speaker 3: pizza out there. Now this is not very far. It's
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  Speaker 3: about the ravine's kind of deep, but from where the
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  Speaker 3: tree is, and there's like a stream burning through the ravine.
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  Speaker 3: And then on the other side it could get no
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  Speaker 3: more than four yards. It's beween thirty four yards and
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  Speaker 3: two heads, two jet black heads, blacker than the night
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  Speaker 3: pop up. Okay, on the other side this tree, he says,
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  Speaker 3: you see that, I say, see what his eye shine.
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  Speaker 3: I can't see about it. Next thing, you know, one
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  Speaker 3: of them, and I swear to god, it went right
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  Speaker 3: through the damn tree. And there was no wrestling of leaves,
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  Speaker 3: no breaking of the branches. It didn't jump over it.
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  Speaker 3: If we didn't hear any thud or anything. And the
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  Speaker 3: next thing, this thing is crawling up ravine towards us.
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  Speaker 3: And the way it was crawling, it was crawling, I
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  Speaker 3: would describe more like it was crawling like a frog
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  Speaker 3: would crawl right, Okay, frog up to the grene, right.
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  Speaker 3: And if this kind of makes sense, if they have
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  Speaker 3: these kind of walking different arms and legs, right that
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  Speaker 3: people talk about. Yeah, so it's crawling up the ravine.
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  Speaker 3: And it got about fifteen feet in front of my
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  Speaker 3: as I told you, my grill with the girl in
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  Speaker 3: my car, with my face and him, and it was
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  Speaker 3: big and right, and it was we're not to be
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  Speaker 3: close to where the tree trunk, the one that broke
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  Speaker 3: his book, and that's six or so feet and then
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  Speaker 3: the rest of us in the ravine. And I look
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  Speaker 3: at it, and I'm in shock, and I'm thinking of
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  Speaker 3: not it at the time, and think of this dude,
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  Speaker 3: this next to me that I just met, who calls
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  Speaker 3: himself cro that I have no idea who he is,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: and I have no idea what's happening. Right then, you
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: would think that it would be the other way around,
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  Speaker 3: that I'd be scared about this giant thing crawl up.
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  Speaker 3: But I was such shock, and I was in this
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: weird predicament room with two strangers. The thing about this thing, though,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: this bigfoot thing, to look at it, look like a
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: bigfoot that people talk about the classic body shape and
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: everything else. Is that it's shimmered, and it shimmered like
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: it have electricity running through it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: If that makes so, I've heard, Yes, I speak to
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: a group of gentlemen that working there in Arizona. They
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: are called the Arizona Four, and they always talk about
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: this electricity in the woods like this weird like static
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: like weirdness. Yeah, I've heard it before.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm talking about the bigfoot itselflf Yeah, like that electricity.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: If you know, at first, I'm thinking, you know, it's like,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: is this kind of like what a cat would do
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: with his hair where it's under you know, it's been
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: aggressive or something like that.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: You know, it stands up on end. Okay, But I.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Wasn't due they had electricity running through it.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Stat electricity like right, And I said, it's time to go.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: It's time to go. I think so, And you see,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I think you're right. So we get in the car
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: and we take off, all right, And got even stranger
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: this dude, because as we're leaving, he starts talking about
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: the most bizarre things. Now in the place called Mansville, Ohio,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: it's notorious for satanic activity doing weird things. And he
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: starts bragging about how him and a group of his
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: guys as friends. And I know you said we can't
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: say the K word.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: But yeah, unlives is the way that you have to
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: say it. Here, what a free place we live in?
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, it sounds just like TikTok man.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: So so he's like bragging and says, yeah, we sacrifice
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: this fifteen year old girl. Beautiful, beautiful thing showed up
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: and he called it Lucifer. But he said it was
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: the most beautiful thing he had ever seen. And I go,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: what did you say? He said, yeah, he was amazing,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: It was amazing. I said, no, what did you say
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: about that fifteen year old girl? I said, Man, if
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I were you, I would feel like the biggest pile
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: of shit that ever was. And you're telling me this.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Things got really dark in that car, and I took
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: him to where he said he was going to go live,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: right and he got close to the neighbor and he
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: said that he lived. He said, drop me off of
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: this Italian restaurant right in the parking lot there. And
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I noticed also that a fog was developing around that
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: area a fog, okay, like a mister fogg. And so
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I drop him off walking towards the place, and he
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: said he lived, and the guy just disappeared into the fog.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at this thing and I'm going, what the
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: hell just happened? What the hell? Just what is going on?
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I'm being told that this is supposed to be some
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: humanoid thing, you know what I mean, this flesh and
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: blood thing, and nothing's adding up. And I just experienced
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: the most bizarre experience of my life. Now about a
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: week later, all right, and this is leading up to
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: the the uh, the soul the eclipse. Now, whether eclipse
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: has something to do with it or not, but ironies
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: are ironies. In my location here in Ohio. This week
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: they're having a lunar eclipse, and then later on this
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: month they're having another solar eclipse. I do notice there
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: seems to be some kind of quote unquote high strangeness
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: when things like this happen. That's just my observation, my
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: own personal experience. What everybody else has to say, that's
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: up to them. But from my experience, so and I've
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: noticed that there's been some synchronicity and high strangeness once
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: again going on. And it started about a week ago,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: were two weeks ago. And I believe that one of
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: the highest strangeness is that you and I are talking
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: right now because I had no plans of talking to
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: anythingbody about this stuff.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: You're gonna freak me out, buddy out.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: So and some of the guys that I communicate with
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: that have listened to me and some of my suggestions
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: have been having some interesting encounters as well the past
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks here in Ohio and filming some interesting
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: stuff in the woods out there in eastern Ohio. So anyways,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: about a week later after that, this first time I
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: see a quote quote UFO and it was the most
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: bizarre thing I remember that day. And it was traveling
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: once again, it's something most from east to west of
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: this time, and it was black and white, some gray,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: and it seemed to go in and out, in and out,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: and it was just floating and just going from here
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: and just keep on going. I remember I watched it
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: for about twenty minutes. What the hell is that? And
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I went ahead, I went to the bathroom ball stay
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: and get back and still there whoa And it was
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: but to one of my observations, at least my experience,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: what people call UFOs. They're not mechanical.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, they're not, you know, not some bolts.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: One should look into the nineteen forty seven the National
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Security Act and the connections that happened that week that
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: being passed on what was going on in Roswell. You
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: might perspective about what's going on back then. I'm not
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: saying there's not stuff in the sky, and I'm not
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: saying there's no not UFOs. I just don't think there's anything.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: What they've been trying to push on us, I say
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: they're real. I just don't think that there are the
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: things that people And there's a guy named who took
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: my mojo who hasn't been doing much stuff, but back
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: in the day, especially a decade, he had some of
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: the most amazing images and about these things. And it
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: goes along with Jacques Vlet and his stories about how
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: these things go through the trees UFOs, right like Bigfoot
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: and a lot of other things. So I watched that
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: thing and this was the most bizarre thing and that
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: and there was more bizarre stuff that was filmed, but
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: was more like shadow people that kind of stuff, and
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: the edge of the woods and some of the cemeteries
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I was filling and some of the wooded areas. Now
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: this is I have multiple scrosses.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: And I.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: In two thousand and nine, I told you that I
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: had to take the swine flu vacs and and it
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: set me off. I believe I'll look at the symptoms
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: all that. I probably had multiple scrosses, but that vaccine,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: it seriously damaged me in My right eye went blurry,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: and then my miss actions went on. Then the leg
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: stop work, but I was able to start using my
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: legs again and back. Then in twenty seventeen, I was
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: still able to walk in the woods and just had
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: ease a cane. Today I can't do that because it's
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: you know, I have to go. If I want to
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: go any great distance, I have to use a wheelchair.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Right. I can point you if you ever wanted to
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: go and do some stuff. There's a in there, Ohio
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: bigfoot researcher is his name is Tim and he is
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: also wheelchair uh and he still goes to like Salt
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Fork State Park and all these places where it's accessible,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: and he still he still sees them.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, I know, I'm totally confident because I have plenty
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: of experience of me just being on the edge of
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: the woods. You don't have to go in the woods.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: It seems like the only thing you need to have
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: is trees. So anyways, my first experience of chatter happened
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: September of that year. Me and my neighbor lives next
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: to me. We went as secrets, he would work. We're
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: both taking our garbage out in the back. We started
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: talking and as we're talking, we hear, what that's that
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: when people talk about is chatter right? Samurai?
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, talk.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: And I go, you hear that? Yeah? She goes, what
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: is that? I look at her and I don't know.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: I guess I just wasn't thinking. And I said, it's
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: a booger. Okay, she with a booger, it's a bigfoot.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: She goes, what And I said yeah. I said, let's
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: go over there, and she said what. So I'll lead
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: the way, don't worry about So we walk over there.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Now this is happening maybe about forty to fifty yards
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: away from us. Over here in this chatter right, there's
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: there is a ditch and railroad tracks. The railroad tracks
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: leads to the Grand Towers or silos about a mile
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: or two north of us.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: So it and they.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: They run by my house and on the fall and
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: winter to get all the you know, the grain and
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: the corn and then all the way right hm, so
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: and so we go over by where the ditches and
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: there's nothing there, not a damn thing. And I go
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: because there's not much to worry about. When we both
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: heard what we heard, and I said, that's from what
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I The sound that I heard is the same that
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I've been hearing from all these other guys you know
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: that are doing research out west right.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you never got a chance to interview, although I
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: was talking to m K and he was Davis Is
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: to talk about maybe doing an interview together with him,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: but things fell didn't.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I've had him one. It was one of
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: my first. One of my first interviews was with Ron Morehead.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Fantastic fantastic guy.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: And Ron knows there's a little more going on with
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: these things called SaaS, watching the official narrative, the second.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Book, this second book Quantum Bigfoot or whatever it's called,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: or yeah, this famous book.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: There's more going on than me than a lot of
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: the experts. I guess, I don't know. How I would
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: these the guys that they're on the circuits to do
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: all the conferences and insist that can't be. But for
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: the this an awful lot of us, like our people,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: like myself, who have had a different experience than what
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: they're saying. So so anyways, leading up to that that year.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: At the end of that year was the nineteenth of
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: December afternoon, it was around five and pm that I
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: won't forget because as I was taking my son to
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: the car for his karate practice, this way would be
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: described as a bigfoot manifested and appeared in front of
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: my face about ten to fifteen feet once again. And
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: you could see this time once again it was brownish.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: This the hair the face was leathery, like I'm brownish.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: It's a less grash type of thing going on. The
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: eyes were brown. There were almond shaped but big. There
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: was no white in the pupils, but it was almost
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: like if there were on the live looking eyes. We
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: have to say, you said dead eyes, dead eyes and so,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: and you could see the face. The teeth, the teeth
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: were very squarish and it was a big grin and
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: you could see it and it's like and like holy crap,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: what am I seeing?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: My son is in the car at the time. We
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: never see He never said he saw anything. So and
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I was like glad. But for three days it was
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: the worst three days in my life. He was living
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: hell because whatever that was, it looked like Bigfoot. That
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: once again, by the way, it came out of a tree. Right,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: there was a big silver maple, and that would be
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: to the east of us, to my right, and that's
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: where it came from, out of that big tree, which
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: by the way, is no longer with me. I noticed
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of the trees that I had encounters, I
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: had some rres signing, uh they're no longer with me.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: An awful lot of them end up dying. Whoa they
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: say the wrong word.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: No, no, it's just a k one.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: So and I don't know. That's something that I encourage
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: people are doing research and you see something, pay attention
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: to those trees and see what happens to them in
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: the next few years. Because my observation is a lot
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: of these these trees, and there these edge of the
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: tournament woods or even in the woods where I see things,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: there seems to be ah, it seems to die. It
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: seemed to perish. I don't know if it's I have.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: My theory is is they're used in the life, essence
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: or force of these trees in order to manifest and
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: to travel. I think the trees are like the neurons
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: of the world. If you think about the neurons, and
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: it's your nervous system, you know what for me, I
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: got MS. So it's interioration of the mining sheet. It's
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: the webbing that surrounds your body, right and and and
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: the trees are like the neurons of this place. And
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: it's interesting about these trees. As their roots go deep
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: uh or into the ground, the mid the trunk section
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: would be. So some people would say, like that's the
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: underworld is where the roots are. The trunk is where
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: the middle world is where we walk upon and the
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: branch and the trees reach out to the upper world
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: of the atmosphere. If you are right, and they create
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: uh stab electricity, they create like a fourtex. It's very interesting.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: You can watch trees how they interact with each other
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: in the woods or in the clause, how they will
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: actually transfer some kind of energy between each other. Right,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: that's scientifically documented.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, if you said that, it's true, there were there
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: was there was there was a one that I can't
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: remember which study it was, but there was a tree
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: somewhere that wasn't getting enough water and they were able
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: to document that the other trees were starting sending water
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: through the root system and the mycilia to make it
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: actually be okay. Again. That was very interesting.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Plus and the fact that you can see that
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: there's been research in Italy for other places where it
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: seem if they could run electricity through trees, living trees
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: and they plug in a light bulb and the light
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: bulb turns on up to a tree. So there is
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: that kind of thing going on, right. So that's my
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: theory is that they're using these trees as the life
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: force and the travel and you know, using the elements
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: and and and they go up and down. And I've
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: filmed multiple of these different entities because it's not just
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: big for there's multiple entities. As you can see up
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: there above me, there's one of two big fricking eyes
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: that almost look like you see that one. It's gray
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: and it's got the two eyes boken out and he's
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: got that head and a shadow it's got and just
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: look at it. Look back at you, and it has
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: eyes that are very similar to what people call aliens.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: So that's one of the things I discovered too, that
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: there's an association with trees and what people call aliens.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: So so it's now there's three days of living hell.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: And that time I was hardcore Christians. I'm talking people
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: me and people that do exorcists and all other stuff.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: What do I do you need to bless your house?
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: You got any sacred oil? No, what do you got coconata? Well,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: this blessed that and wiping around your house and all that, right,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: and to all that stuff that this is weird. Stuff
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: is really bad. What happened for three days and to
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: me and my son okay, and the people talk about
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: the Mandela effect, Well, crazy stuff started happening to you.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I told you I was an artist, right, and I
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: had some of my artwork. And one of the things
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: the right where I'm sitting now, I'm behind where my
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: computer is. I had a sixty by forty inch drawing
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: that I did at pen and ink, really complicated. It
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: took six months to do right and all these other ones,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: and it was so screwed up. I was so screwed
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: up and then the situation was so screwed up that
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I got rid of everything, anything that was close it
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: was a quote, a cult in nature or anything.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: And like a.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Less than a week that was maybe it was before
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: it was between it was between Christmas and New Year's.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I took all the stuff, stuff that I put a
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: lot of time into, some of the stuff I still
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: kept because I was proud of it, and took it
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: through it out in the front. And a funny thing,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: within a half an hour, my neighbors had took all
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: my r art, literally took it all.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: So what were you experiencing? If I can ask, I mean,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: nless you don't want to talk to me about.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well this would be what people will call something
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: like being torment it. I mean, there was just a
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: bad feeling, right, okay, dread, pure dread this time, and
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: the first time I didn't feel dread. Where at first
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: of the crowing in medicine or he called himself a
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Crowingian medicine man. Whether he was or not was one thing,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: but he definitely was first nation.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: And but.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really bad, and I was calling on
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Jesus and doing all this stuff and doing what everybody
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: says and braying and brain and nothing. There was no relief,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: and things were going bad. Affected my son. Remember my son,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: he was like looking in the mirror and he was
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: ghost white, and he was just acting really weird, like
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: maybe he was quote unquote becausess or something. Wow, right, And.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: What happens three days later? I remember it was really bad,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: and I was really good for my son. So I'm
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: sleeping in the bed with him in his room, right
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: because I don't want anything to happen to him. And
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: we hear something walking on our front porch and Wade
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: set up. His room is right next to the front porch,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: so we me and him are laying in his bed
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: and five feet away on the other side of the wall,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: there's something on the porch. And I wake up and
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I'm so exhausted, have three of the long days of
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: my life. And I rose up and I start f
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: bombing it and calling it every damn thing you think of,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: right and screaming at it. Woke up my son, and
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I imagine the neighborhood. Whatever is on that rufe started
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: banging on everything and going over the place, and it
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: took off and as it was going to the side,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: of the house. Ironically, my neighbor upstairs, Mike, who works
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: for the Air Force Reserves and has been with the
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Air Force for decades. Now, yeah, I think, he said, Mike.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I think he's five years older than me, and I'm
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: fifty eight. I think he's six years old. Anyways, he
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: sees and I asked him the next day if he
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: saw anything strange, and he said, yeah, Man, when I
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: pulled in work and you were pulling a work around
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: between three and three thirty, and he said, yeah, there's
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: this really tall black dude't dressed in black man because
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: he wasn't connecting.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Big right right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I understand.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I said, And he said, and I said, what the heck,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: what's this dude doing in our backyard? So he gets
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: into his truck and he goes after. He said, I
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: went after it, and it was walking in our back
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: and in the neighbor towards Michigan. There it just disappeared.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I didn't have guts to talk to him about Bigfoot.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: It's time. I don't even know if I still have
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: the guts to talking about But guess what he said.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: He said, he saw this really big dude all dressed
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: in black that he was convinced it was a black dude,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: And I like, there you go. But it ended after that, right,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: And like you said, I'm no longer a I've told
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: you Ray deconstructed, no longer a Christian. I still believe
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: in a crater, but I don't you you said you
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: don't mind. Have been a controversy in Abrahamic religions, and
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I don't believe in they're God. And when it comes
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: to Satanism, Christianity, Judaism, and Muhammedism, they're all four sides
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: of the same square and it's all a big trap
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: in the boxing in and.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: What I mean.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: So if you want to be part of that, knock
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: yourself out. But I tell you I'm moving on with
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: that stuff. That doesn't mean I don't believe in the
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: creators still. I just think that this creation is completely
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: different than one anybody told us. And I truly believe
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: that the organized religion has been designed to keep us
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: from recognizing the true creation.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: So yes, damn it, dude, so exactly what I feel.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: So, but what's interesting. Just a couple of weeks ago,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: my son wrote a song about twenty seventeen and about
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: the Shadow People, and I'm like, look at listening to this,
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, dude, is this for real? Because we
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: never talked about this stuff. What happened that at the
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: end of those three days too, my son was really sick, right,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: so I kept him from going to school that Wednesday.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: I think this had all happen started on a Monday,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: so now it's Wednesday, and I said yeah, and the
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: police showed him. His mom was supposed to look school,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: knowing that he was sick, so the police showed up
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: and like where's you know, Where's where's your son and
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: all that, and so he's really sick. Anyways, he ended
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: up having I guess his tossils out and all that
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff. Is he was really sick a year later.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: But anyways, he was telling me a couple of weeks ago.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: He said, yeah, man, he said, twenty seventeen, I started
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: seeing the shadow people and it lasted first a couple
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: of years, about twenty nineteen. Sod awstome. You never talked
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: to me about that, And he says, I mean, and
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: we're talking about this. He would always come to me.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I'd be cooking in the kitchen or wherever, and he goes, yeah, Dad,
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: did you call your call? And I'm like, nobody. He
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: was telling me all this time, but he couldn't. He
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: didn't know how to tell me. He was hearing this
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: stuff and seeing these things, and I'm like, you gotta
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: be kidding me. It makes all the sense, buddy, because
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: of what we went through, because I'm telling you those
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: three days it was psychological slash spiritual living hell. And
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: it only stopped, it didn't stop for me crying and
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: crying for Jesus is when I just used my own
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: authority as a as a man and started telling it
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: to go get the hell out of there, you know
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: what I mean. And I can just show that I
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: had enough of it by the way it all stopped
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: after that.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Interesting and also most people, most people here the opposite.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: You know. You'll they'll tell you that they that they
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: do this, and they do that, and then a suddenly
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: they invoked Jesus. But I've heard people that it's actually
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: worked for too. You know.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: I heard a lot of that, But Mike, from my
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: own speriences calling upon them and because.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Anything is worse, okay.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Now my experience and people will say I'm a terrible
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: person to say it or say I'm deemed dissessed or whatever.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying you know what. And by the way,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: I for a year, uh kept on reading the Bible
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: online and everything and a lot of it and looking
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: back was to distract myself from not thinking about what
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I went through, hoping that if that would clear the
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: air and all the bad and jewshrew out there and
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: all the other bad stuff. But you know, looking back
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: at it now, the thing that worked was when I
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: just said I had enough. Right stop, I'm not. I'm not.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Everyone has their experiences, man, it's it's your life. It's
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: your experiences. Man.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Well, if there's anybody else that are hearing me, if
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: you you've you might want to try that as well.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Take take a little authority for your your own being,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: because for some reason, these things have to respect you
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: and have it. They have to respect it. Give you
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: a distance. They can scare you. They can they can
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: show up, you can see stuff, they can freak you out,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: but they really they can't do anymore that they can.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: They can invite you can invite it into them.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: It seems like, oh yeah, that definitely seems real like
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: and don't don't worry about the controversy about the people
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: know that watch the channel know where I lie religiously.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: They know that who I am, I'm a seeker of
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: whatever it is. My my connection with my creator and
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: your connection is all it's It's upon me to make
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: the distinction, and I tell them it's upon them to
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: make their distinction. I respect their beliefs as long as
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: they respect mine, and if they do that, we're going
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: to be best of friends.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing when you start reading it
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: scriptures now and not private interpreta is pretty audience relevancy,
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: time statements, and just time. Just read it for what
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: it says, and be very clear that Jesus made it
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: very clear that God's within all of us, that you
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: don't need to have a relation. In fact, the whole
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: New Testament, it's not about becoming a Christian. It's about
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: having a relationship with your creator. But they took it
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: all out of context. And that's the reason why now
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: we have forty thousand freaking denominations and it's all about
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: it's they've turned it into a weapon for the Empire
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: to enslave us instead of in freeing us and having
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: it that whatever the creator is, you know, it's a force.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't at this point, I didn't see
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: any It's it's it's not a man, it's not a woman.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: It's a force. Yeah, I mean, it's what craved us
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: in this place.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't judge. Is just like it
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: was just like I was having a rough time in
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: my life and uh, I'll tell you, I don't care man,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: like you open up, I'll open up. You know. I was,
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: you know, looking for answers man and I was just
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: having a really tough time with depression and anxiety and stuff.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: The military did a lot of that to me, and uh,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I was just I started learning how to meditate and
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: going in and I went into the woods one morning.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: It was cold, it was it was in Germany, and
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: uh it was right next to my house and I
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: just got there before the sun sun came up, and
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I just sat there and meditated for like an hour,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: and just all of a sudden, when I opened my eyes,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: it was just this thing, this feeling that it just
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: was overwhelming, you know, And and I was like, oh, wow,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: I've been stupid this whole time. I forgot. I forgot.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: It's like something that we know that we forget that's
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: been driven out of us, if you know what I mean.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: And when you when that realization comes like the whole
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: my whole life change, you know it has.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Really if you want good, do good. That's what it
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: comes up to. If you want to see the craters
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: in all of us, and it's and it's up to
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: you do you how you want to use that? Uh
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: that that spark a light in you. So and if
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: you don't want to believe in it, I don't think
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: it matters. I don't think it even cares. It's not
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: required for you to believe him.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: It's such a human emotion to worry about such petty
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: things as well. If you if you, for me, if
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: you get on your knees on a certain day of
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: the week, wearing a certain clothes and a certain building,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's more human than it
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: is creator. You know what I mean.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And here's the thing it's like for I'm just like, okay, so,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: and I got a lot of you know, since my deconstruction,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: I have a lot of atheist friends, and I say,
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: you know what, I don't care if you believe in God,
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: it's your business. It's not mine. It's me. I tell
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: you what. When there's times of need and when I'm
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: under some stress, if there's like you know, and I
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: had to go get my car fixed, believe me and
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: meum right. I mean it's like I'm talking to God
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: a freaking out, you know, more than a thousand dollars
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: and think.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. I was an atheist for many years, man.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I would say for at least almost twenty years of
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: my life. I was at about if that's such a
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: thing atheists. I used to wear a little thing with
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: the a with the atomic thing around it and all
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: that stuff. I read all the books, I've done all that,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: and it's just sure. It's just there was this things
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: that kept coming up and I was just like, wait
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: a minute, dude. And then you know, I just not
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: a big fan of blood sacrifice. I'm not a big
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: bo I'm not a big fan of like eating the dead,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, and it's whether it's
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: a sacrament sacrament like Protestants, or if it's the Catholics
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: where they actually believe it to be. Either way, for me,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not into that, dude. I don't think that.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: How about that?
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: No, No, I mean, I'll eat my I'll eat my
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: sausage or my steak, but I'm not you know, I'm
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: not into that, and everyone's like, tell you something, you know,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: it's weird.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: I'm struggling terribly with the MSS so three months because
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: I started on this carnivoor dit and it's slowly working,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: and I'm gaining my strength beds. I'm staying on that.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: I don't care what anybody else says. And so now
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: it's just meat, salt and freaking water.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: And maybe like eggs and eggs. Yeah, there you go.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah it works.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Eggs offer up the fall light and a few other things.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: So it's important to half some eggs. And you don't
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: have to have the ones in the farm, although I
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: would be if you can get the ones, you know
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: that are are truly free ranged and our healthy factory
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: factory farming, I got you. But if you do have
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: that's so I guess I eat factors say it's still
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: better than not. You got to eat what you can afford,
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It's better than starving yourself.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: And that's what I was doing this whole time. I
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: didn't realize I was trying to eat this more balanced
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: diet of rice and all this other stuff. And it
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: turns out all this, especially an old man like me,
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: sugars and all that awful.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, so addictive. So, Michael, so you have
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: this experience, you had this, but I just want to
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: kind of I don't know if you if you're willing
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: to come back on a second time, that would be great,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: you know, want I normally do these are about an hour.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: That way, it comes in chunks. People kind of like
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: this is like the beginning where you're coming from. I know,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: do do We'll do port two of this, We'll go
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: into empiracies. We can do all of it. Brother, because you.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: Know me somebody and we talked a little bit, so,
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: I mean I got strong opinions.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: But really, oh yeah, is that what those were good?
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you is what do you think
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: this is? Because it follows you home.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: I think these things are spirits. I think here's some
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: kind of what we call spirits. I think that Bigfoot
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: is one of these things from my experience because I've
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: seen what looks like flesh. The time goes on. If
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: you do another show or too, I can share it
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: a little about the quote unquote physical sightings, and they're
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: never exciting as the other ones. I can tell you
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: that much. By the way, all that experience, I wasn't
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: not in drugs, and apparently my son turns out and
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: I didn't talk about any of stuff. In fact, I
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: deliberately did not talk to about any of this stuff
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: because all the things that I've researched. I almost lost
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: my son because of all the things. His mom tried
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: to take them away from me and it, but she
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: didn't succeed. But all the things I was studying, like
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: you know, the studying the flatter Earth and what the
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Bible really says about Bigfoot and all this, I said
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: I can't have. She was like worried I was going
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: to terribly eat fluence some you know, my experiences with
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: two thousand and in twenty and twenty one and out
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: there in the middle of my towns. You tried again
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: to try to and she got the school involved, and
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: they were like complaining, you know, about me being out
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: there worn and the parents in my town and about
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: the kids and not to have them take it, you know,
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: did jab and all that, and so anyways, it's so
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: I didn't really push him on this stuff. And he
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: brought it up, and I'm like, you got to be
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: kidding me all this time. You remember that stuff? I said, Dude,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I never talked to you about that stuff. And he's
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: not here right now. And I tried to make it
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: as to deliver as possible that if I ever talked
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: to you about it, that he would have not been around, right,
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: because he's too young to understand.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: You. You have to protect your children, man, you have
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: to well.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: Part of the problem is, dude, this has happening to me.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: I'm fifty eight, So this happened when I was fifty
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: and our forty nine, and I'm like, I don't know
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: the hell's going on. And every other people that I'm
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: talking to, the experts clearly don't know what's going on.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: They're just everyone's doing the role playing and just parroting
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: what they were told by somebody else who claimed to
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: be an expert. And I'm like, clearly, I'm on my own.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell some When I was going through all
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: that stuff in twenty seventeen, eighteen, the Bigfoot community was
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: not there for me at all, not at all. It's
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: only now eight years later that it's people becoming more
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: and more honest about there's something else going on. But
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: I'm telling twenty seventeen eighteen, you bring up stuff that
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: I brought up. Oh my gosh everyone, And I mean,
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: I'm getting blocked and every fricking bigfoot a group on
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Facebook and et cetera, just for saying what my experience was,
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: mocking and everything. And even's a lot of the people
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: that I was talking to, you know, big names, and
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: before all the stuff happened and during, we're not there
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: to support me in it, you know what I mean,
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: because it was just too much for I mean, I
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: understand if you haven't gone through this, you're gonna listen
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: to a guy like me and say, this guy is
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: that shit crazy, is a nut job and needs to
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: be locked up. And by the way, I probably would
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: have been that guy if I hadn't gone through this.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: I know that prior to you that I was I'm
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: not believing in any of this stuff. I was listening
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: to these guys and guys like Dustin and others that
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: have these experiences interviewing and they seemed pretty genuine. But
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: other guys you could tell that they were, uh, just
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: they were grifting, just trying to make a buck off
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: it and a name and exploit the situation. But so
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: it was, you know, like I said, I had to
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: go figure out this for myself, and clearly and sometimes
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: I wish I never would have done it. I'd be
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: honest with you because you know, it was.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: What an honest thing to say, dude, because that was
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: that was that was something there, all right, Please, I'm sorry, no,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: because it's true.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: I mean I had I mean one level, Okay, I
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: understand this place a lot better than I did, but
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: there's been I mean, my best friend from high school
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: will never talk to me again because of this stuff.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: I almost lost my son because in fact, a lot
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: of things, opportunities to make money and et cetera. I
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: was pushed to the side by a lot of people
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: because of it, and I had to. I had to.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: I decided. I took that for twenty nineteen. I took
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: a two almost three year hiatus before I started up again.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: It seems like every three years, for some reason, these
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: things happen in my life. And so I started up again.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: The next time we talk, we'll talk about twenty twenty
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: two and twenty three.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember man trying to tell the people
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  Speaker 2: who watched me. That that's you know, finding me. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there's two there's two two paths of happiness. There's unknowing
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  Speaker 2: and then there's a knowing. And that space in between
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  Speaker 2: that you traversed is the hard is the warriors path man,
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  Speaker 2: So knowing and not knowing it's very it's also a
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  Speaker 2: very hard transition. It's also dark Night of the soul.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like you think about a lot of these
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  Speaker 3: First Nations people, what they do with this young Uh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they have to say, you know, we're going to go
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna go out to the sacred spot by yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Of course they weren't. They were washing them from a distance,
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  Speaker 3: but they left them along with no food, no water
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  Speaker 3: and sit there. And they had a lot of them
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  Speaker 3: to quote, had visions and seeing things like sasquatch for
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  Speaker 3: the little people or et cetera. And they have stories
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  Speaker 3: about it, and I think a lot of that has
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  Speaker 3: to big book. This the Dark narded the Soul, which
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  Speaker 3: is not literally just a night, but it's a phase.
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  Speaker 3: It's a phase in which the reality is brought to
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  Speaker 3: you and you become part of the damned. Like Charles
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  Speaker 3: Fort not the people that are damn going to hell
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  Speaker 3: because we can talk about this too. I think this
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  Speaker 3: place is hell. But regardless of that, that's that's so
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  Speaker 3: we can talk about uh I. But one thing is is,
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  Speaker 3: like Charles Ford says, is that once this stuff happens,
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  Speaker 3: you start seeing them, you become the damned. And then
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  Speaker 3: the way it's damned this is because you have your
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  Speaker 3: personal experience. You've seen things in the sky or in
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  Speaker 3: the woods, in your house or whatever, and you can
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  Speaker 3: count on the vast majority of people aren't going to
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  Speaker 3: believe you aren't going to accept it. It's your own
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  Speaker 3: friend story and it's your own part of your journey
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  Speaker 3: of waking up just a bit of what this place
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  Speaker 3: really is. And it doesn't fit in with the narratives
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  Speaker 3: and the official stories that the social engineers want you
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  Speaker 3: to believe in.
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  Speaker 2: Right Yeah, well, good, fair enough man, fair enough man,
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm it's okay to couldn't share this with me.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate the basically the intro. There's a lot more.
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  Speaker 2: It just came on. Talk to me about this, man,
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  Speaker 2: It's really cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well I appreciate you. Let me have be on
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like I said, I got images.
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  Speaker 3: I've got some videos. I mean, my last sighting is
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: of a video I did, and after that in twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty three, I pretty much yeah because of the MS,
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  Speaker 3: and I pretty much saw where I filmed where I
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  Speaker 3: filmed and saw what I saw, and once can didn't
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  Speaker 3: add up to what other people are looking for or
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  Speaker 3: have filmed.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I have seen things that look off the physical and
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  Speaker 3: behave physical that you might call us a big foot
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  Speaker 3: from my experience, but as I told you, I never
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  Speaker 3: touched them. I never I mean outside of finding a
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  Speaker 3: footprint here there. I have no idea. At the end
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: of the day. If you want to believe it's flesh
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: and blood or not, that's great, but I think you're
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  Speaker 3: missing out on a bigger picture. The bigger picture is
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: these things, along with a lot of other things, are
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: part of this creation, for better or worse, and they
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: don't and they don't and they travel in parallel realms,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: liminal space and spaces that are they're connected to us,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: but it's like they come in for a moment, but
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  Speaker 3: they can't stay.
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  Speaker 2: M hm makes sense, Yeah, it does, man, in the
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  Speaker 2: sense is what we do too. If you really think
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: about it, it's just different time, things different timelines, man,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Man, keep in touch with me, don't
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: forget to write me once in a while and I'll
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: get in contient.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me when the next time you want me on.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do. I always like to leave a little
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: space and people hanging on the cliff a little bit
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: at the same time. It is part of it, whether
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: we like it or not. And uh, yeah it was.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I really appreciate you came on and talk to me.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's not easy for you, and it's easy
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  Speaker 2: for me.
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  Speaker 3: I just like the thing is is you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean. It's like I don't know what I have.
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  Speaker 3: I'll share my story. I hope somebody else can relate
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: or help them in their investigation and what place a
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: different avenue approach to go if they're interested. But I am.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty content with what I know at this point.
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  Speaker 2: All right, guys, I hope you enjoyed that one. Michael,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so very much. Remember we are the I,
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  Speaker 2: we are aware, and I love you all.