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- 0:22Speaker 2: And Ray Plus. A good morning to you.
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- 0:31Speaker 3: another nice morning out there this morning. It was her
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- 0:38Speaker 3: morning and being a part of the Program'd like to
- 0:40Speaker 3: introduce our expert for you this morning, not a stranger
- 0:44Speaker 3: to our airwaves at all, coming back for his June
- 0:47Speaker 3: show this year as Brett Houston. He is the owner
- 0:49Speaker 3: of Foster Foundation offair. Brett joining us this morning. Brett,
- 0:51Speaker 3: Good morning, How you doing this morning?
- 0:52Speaker 4: Doing very well? Thank you.
- 0:53Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming in this morning.
- 0:55Speaker 3: I know we have a quite a nice conversation that
- 0:58Speaker 3: we're going to take place here. Want to talk about
- 1:00Speaker 3: foundation repair this morning and some of the intricacies of that.
- 1:04Speaker 3: Brett does a lot more than just foundation repair, so
- 1:06Speaker 3: sometimes we expand out a little bit to talk about
- 1:08Speaker 3: different things, but we're going to talk primarily about foundation repairs,
- 1:12Speaker 3: different types of repairs with with with the peers, with
- 1:15Speaker 3: the different types of movement of the foundation of your home.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Things to look out for if that's something that you've
- 1:21Speaker 3: run into some recent issues with or maybe a loved one,
- 1:24Speaker 3: you can be there. Sort to get in a situation
- 1:27Speaker 3: where you call in and ask questions, You're more than
- 1:29Speaker 3: welcome to do that. Our phone number this morning is
- 1:31Speaker 3: three zero four, three four five fifty eight fifty eight
- 1:33Speaker 3: threes or A four three four five fifty eight fifty eight.
- 1:35Speaker 3: You can also text over questions if you'd like. Our
- 1:37Speaker 3: text line numbers threes are four non three five five
- 1:39Speaker 3: zero zero eight three zero four non three five five
- 1:42Speaker 3: zero zero eight. How thing's going so far in June, Brett,
- 1:45Speaker 3: It's you mentioned before we went on the show, we
- 1:48Speaker 3: never really got the super wet part of the year. Yeah.
- 1:51Speaker 4: Yeah, So normally, normally we're getting a lot of phone
- 1:54Speaker 4: calls about water related issues, basements, wet, cross spaces wet,
- 1:59Speaker 4: and then sort of transitions throughout the summer into other issues.
- 2:05Speaker 4: Settlement typically starts to show its head in the late
- 2:10Speaker 4: summer early fall months. But yeah, it seems like we
- 2:12Speaker 4: kind of missed the really wet, rainy period, which has
- 2:16Speaker 4: been good for us. We've been very been able to
- 2:18Speaker 4: be very productive from a construction standpoint, but it seems
- 2:23Speaker 4: like we missed that rainy season and we're kind of
- 2:25Speaker 4: moving into early stage. Is a drought for the third
- 2:30Speaker 4: seems like the third year in a row. Well, definitely,
- 2:32Speaker 4: we definitely had it last two years, but it seems
- 2:34Speaker 4: like we're heading that direction again. I haven't actually looked
- 2:38Speaker 4: at any data to support that, but it just feels
- 2:40Speaker 4: like we just haven't had them on a rain that
- 2:43Speaker 4: we often often do.
- 2:45Speaker 3: So I can I can just we all only know
- 2:48Speaker 3: what we know, and I can know from my house
- 2:50Speaker 3: that usually I can tell like sort of how the
- 2:53Speaker 3: water saturation of the soil is by how quickly when
- 2:56Speaker 3: it does rain hard that my sun pump kicks on,
- 2:57Speaker 3: you know, the house saturated. And this last rain that
- 3:00Speaker 3: we had where we had quite a bit of rain
- 3:01Speaker 3: over a couple of days that came through, man, my
- 3:03Speaker 3: some didn't come on until the end of the rain,
- 3:05Speaker 3: like it took a while because our soil was so dry.
- 3:08Speaker 3: So that just tells me like you, I don't have
- 3:09Speaker 3: the data, but I can tell at least at my
- 3:11Speaker 3: house we haven't had nearly the rain that we normally have.
- 3:14Speaker 4: Yeah, and so much that involves foundations. The condition of
- 3:19Speaker 4: a foundation is based on the weather, the climactic conditions
- 3:23Speaker 4: that affect the soil. The moisture content of the soils
- 3:26Speaker 4: is very important as it relates to settlement, and also
- 3:31Speaker 4: lateral pressure that's acting on, for example, a basement foundation
- 3:35Speaker 4: wall that's retaining say eight nine ten feet worth of
- 3:39Speaker 4: dirt in some cases water pressure. So the weather is
- 3:44Speaker 4: very well, the rainfall primarily is really what effects or
- 3:50Speaker 4: tends to contribute to damage to foundation issues.
- 3:54Speaker 3: So on another year where you have the typical amount
- 3:57Speaker 3: of rain, we might be talking about on this show
- 3:59Speaker 3: maybe talking about different waterproofing and different things along those lines,
- 4:02Speaker 3: because people might be interested in that seeing some of
- 4:04Speaker 3: the issues that they have in their basement and stuff.
- 4:06Speaker 3: But right now we really have to talk about settling
- 4:07Speaker 3: and movement and stuff because, like you said, with drought conditions,
- 4:10Speaker 3: that kind of is perfect conditions for those types of things.
- 4:13Speaker 4: Yeah, So we have quite quite a bit of clay
- 4:16Speaker 4: expansive clay soils in our region, some areas are worse
- 4:19Speaker 4: than others. Tays Valley is the Old Taese Valley river
- 4:23Speaker 4: bed is is definitely very expansive. There's a pocket and
- 4:27Speaker 4: cross lanes that is very expansive, and and as the
- 4:32Speaker 4: soils dry out, they tend to shrink and and that
- 4:35Speaker 4: can lead to drought related settlement. It does seem like
- 4:40Speaker 4: anytime I'm looking at a property that has drought related settlement,
- 4:43Speaker 4: there's it seems like there's always a very mature oak
- 4:45Speaker 4: tree nearby where that settlement issue is occurring. And I
- 4:51Speaker 4: guess that that is those tend to well, those trees
- 4:53Speaker 4: are the roots. They tend to super dry the soil
- 4:56Speaker 4: even further than than just the climate has done so. So
- 5:00Speaker 4: that's you know, from a that standpoint, trees are they
- 5:05Speaker 4: definitely affect the house. They affect the soil around the house.
- 5:08Speaker 4: Not only do they dry the soil, sometimes if they're
- 5:10Speaker 4: too close, they can actually put pressure on the foundation
- 5:13Speaker 4: as well, typically going to be a lateral pressure pushing
- 5:16Speaker 4: the latterally pushing a wall in. I have seen on
- 5:19Speaker 4: a few occasions where it will heave cause a lift
- 5:23Speaker 4: of the root system will be so big and it
- 5:25Speaker 4: will be underneath the foot or that it can lift.
- 5:28Speaker 4: I'm sure everybody's seen a sidewalk that's heaved from a
- 5:31Speaker 4: tree root, and it can certainly affect a foundation if
- 5:34Speaker 4: if it happens to be close enough in the same manner.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Just talking about that just for a moment, are there
- 5:41Speaker 3: situations where you diagnose a problem that comes from a
- 5:46Speaker 3: tree system at someone's house and you would actually recommend
- 5:49Speaker 3: you you should probably get that tree taken out.
- 5:53Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, and no. I mean if it's if it's
- 5:56Speaker 4: a droughtly related issue, yeah, you can get rid of it,
- 5:58Speaker 4: no worries. But they're there are situations where that tree
- 6:02Speaker 4: is under the house and or that root is out
- 6:05Speaker 4: of the house and it's a double edged sword. You
- 6:07Speaker 4: take it out and ten to fifteen years down the
- 6:09Speaker 4: road the tree root rots and now you're settling. So
- 6:14Speaker 4: sometimes interesting, there's no great option. Unfortunately, it's just a
- 6:17Speaker 4: matter of time. You know, one way or the other,
- 6:19Speaker 4: something will it's going to be affected in that manner.
- 6:23Speaker 3: Selfishly, I'm glad I asked that question because I have
- 6:25Speaker 3: the situation where I have just a posty stamp yard
- 6:27Speaker 3: in Kenall City and it's not a double lot or anything,
- 6:30Speaker 3: but I have three full grown trees in my yard. Man,
- 6:32Speaker 3: and and man, it's a lot of work during the autumn.
- 6:37Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, you know, like leave breaking. There's
- 6:39Speaker 3: like mounds and mounds and mounds of leaves that we
- 6:41Speaker 3: have to do in there. But I'm more worried about
- 6:44Speaker 3: the yard never drying out properly because it's always under
- 6:46Speaker 3: constant shade about the root system and stuff like that. So,
- 6:48Speaker 3: you know, I give my wife a hard time every once.
- 6:50Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, come on, honey, we need
- 6:51Speaker 3: to cut down all these trees. And she's like, I
- 6:53Speaker 3: can't get rid of all my squirrels. I just brought
- 6:55Speaker 3: rob them with her homes. Maybe not such a great
- 6:56Speaker 3: idea anyway, though, maybe I'm glad that I haven't talked
- 6:59Speaker 3: her into at this point because there's probably a significant
- 7:02Speaker 3: system under the house.
- 7:03Speaker 4: Yeah, I would imagine. But you know, again, it's typically
- 7:07Speaker 4: if it's the tree is within a few feet. I mean,
- 7:12Speaker 4: I've seen the drought related issues that relates to trees
- 7:15Speaker 4: of ten, fifteen to twenty feet. I mean, it's it's
- 7:17Speaker 4: it's affecting the entire area. But you know, I mean,
- 7:22Speaker 4: I mean the trees that's it's more of a water
- 7:26Speaker 4: management issue than anything, probably than than the tree. But
- 7:30Speaker 4: so the way we the way we fix whether settlement's
- 7:35Speaker 4: been fixed in various different ways over the years. First
- 7:39Speaker 4: generation repairs, which we do not do any longer, was
- 7:44Speaker 4: a concrete underpin and what what the what the contractor
- 7:48Speaker 4: would do is they would essentially dig a hole next
- 7:50Speaker 4: to the foot or to the foundation, then dig underneath
- 7:53Speaker 4: the house and at every at intervals and actually pour
- 7:57Speaker 4: more concrete underneath the footter and with hope that they
- 8:00Speaker 4: were getting down to deeper, more stable soil, and they
- 8:03Speaker 4: would do that. They would do that and at intervals
- 8:08Speaker 4: where they would not undermine the entire foundation at any
- 8:11Speaker 4: given time, but they would do a small section and
- 8:13Speaker 4: they had let the concrete harden, and then they would
- 8:15Speaker 4: do another section next to the area they just did.
- 8:18Speaker 4: The problem with that old first generation repair was you
- 8:22Speaker 4: were adding a significant amount of weight to the foundation
- 8:25Speaker 4: and oftentimes you didn't get down deep enough to good
- 8:29Speaker 4: stable material and actually increase the rate of movement. So
- 8:33Speaker 4: that's something that we don't do any longer. There's probably
- 8:37Speaker 4: scenarios where it might be applicable. I actually saw a
- 8:41Speaker 4: set of plans for a repair on the Capitol grounds,
- 8:45Speaker 4: and there was a concrete underpin on that project, which
- 8:48Speaker 4: I was quite surprised about. But the more modern way
- 8:52Speaker 4: of underpinning foundations today to address settlement is the installation
- 8:57Speaker 4: of helical piles or resist and piles, which in my opinion,
- 9:03Speaker 4: the helical pile is the premiere or the most appropriate method.
- 9:07Speaker 4: In our region, we see I see quite a bit
- 9:12Speaker 4: of failure of the of resistance piles and the reason
- 9:17Speaker 4: the reason for that is resistance piles a perfectly fine
- 9:23Speaker 4: repair option. If essentially what a resistance piles is, it's
- 9:27Speaker 4: a steel pipe with a a friction reduction coupler at
- 9:34Speaker 4: the end, which is essentially a cap and it is
- 9:36Speaker 4: it is literally pushed into the ground with a hydraulic
- 9:39Speaker 4: ram and the ram is attached to the house and
- 9:41Speaker 4: you push this pipe into the ground until until you
- 9:44Speaker 4: start to lift the house. And that is at the
- 9:46Speaker 4: point because the house is the counterweight to the pressure
- 9:49Speaker 4: pushing down and you can push that down until the
- 9:52Speaker 4: house lifts. And that's as far as you can push
- 9:54Speaker 4: that that resistance pile or push pile, and if you
- 9:59Speaker 4: get that down to very very dense soil or bedrock.
- 10:02Speaker 4: It's it's going to be successful. The problem is, we
- 10:05Speaker 4: don't really have a way to quantify unless to quantify
- 10:09Speaker 4: that you're at bedrock unless a geotechnical engineer has come in,
- 10:13Speaker 4: come in and done subsurface exploration, which is not very
- 10:17Speaker 4: common in residential foundation repair. So what what often, what
- 10:22Speaker 4: what ends up happening is that is the house is
- 10:24Speaker 4: not heavy enough to push the resistance piled down deep enough,
- 10:27Speaker 4: and then over time, the pressure that the house is
- 10:31Speaker 4: applying on the pile eventually pushes the pile through whatever
- 10:36Speaker 4: the supporting strata is at that point and you start
- 10:39Speaker 4: to get additional settlement. So we we don't we don't
- 10:43Speaker 4: install push piles. We do fix houses that have already
- 10:46Speaker 4: had push piles installed quite often, unfortunately, I'd say four
- 10:52Speaker 4: or five times a year we're fixing the house that
- 10:54Speaker 4: has had we're basically redoing that work where a push
- 10:57Speaker 4: pile was installed. And the difference, so the helical pile
- 11:03Speaker 4: is essentially a screw it's oftentimes it's referred to as
- 11:06Speaker 4: a screw pile. It is actually spun into the earth,
- 11:09Speaker 4: and we install that with a hydraulic motor that spins
- 11:14Speaker 4: this device into the ground, and we're able to quantify
- 11:18Speaker 4: the capacity of the pile based on the amount of
- 11:21Speaker 4: pressure or really the amount of torque that it takes
- 11:24Speaker 4: to spin the device in. So as the soil gets
- 11:28Speaker 4: more dense, it creates more pressure on the pile and
- 11:30Speaker 4: it creates more resistance, so we have to apply more
- 11:33Speaker 4: pressure to install it. So we're able to monitor the
- 11:37Speaker 4: amount of pressure of the hydraulic machine. Basically a mini
- 11:40Speaker 4: excavator is applying to the pile or through the drive motor,
- 11:45Speaker 4: and we're able to quantify the capacity. So we essentially
- 11:48Speaker 4: install the same pile for every most every situation to
- 11:52Speaker 4: the maximum the maximum pressure that we can and we
- 11:57Speaker 4: know that that's going to give us a certain amount
- 11:59Speaker 4: of capacity. And that just works and it drives it
- 12:04Speaker 4: through the soft material. It gets down to very deep
- 12:07Speaker 4: material when needed, like in the Tayes Valley area, we're
- 12:11Speaker 4: going to drive it down forty fifty feet if it's
- 12:13Speaker 4: in the Tayes Valley River basin. Typically if we're in
- 12:16Speaker 4: the South Hills area, South Charleston Hills up on the hills,
- 12:20Speaker 4: that are going to go twelve fourteen feet and we
- 12:23Speaker 4: just know these areas where and how deep they're going
- 12:26Speaker 4: to go.
- 12:26Speaker 3: A couple things there. I wanted to address. Your experience
- 12:29Speaker 3: is so robust at this point you sort of know
- 12:31Speaker 3: the layout of the land well enough to you have
- 12:33Speaker 3: a starting point, you have heuristics, and you're baked into
- 12:35Speaker 3: your brain where you know, Okay, we're going to South Hills,
- 12:37Speaker 3: we know that we're going to need probably in this range,
- 12:39Speaker 3: we're going to Tays Valley river bed, we're going to
- 12:41Speaker 3: need this. I mean, that's cutting some of the work
- 12:43Speaker 3: off right there, because you already know that stuff through
- 12:45Speaker 3: your experience and things that you've done and your illustration.
- 12:48Speaker 3: There are the different types of piles that you're talking
- 12:51Speaker 3: about really makes a lot of sense. And I couldn't
- 12:52Speaker 3: help but thinking about when you were talking about just
- 12:55Speaker 3: using a pushpow or a steal one hydraulic that like
- 12:59Speaker 3: I keep on thinking like a soft wood or like
- 13:02Speaker 3: rotted wood where you put the head of the nail through.
- 13:05Speaker 3: One of the ways to get it out, of course
- 13:07Speaker 3: is well you can just pull it through the other
- 13:08Speaker 3: side if it's soft enough wood. You know, you can
- 13:11Speaker 3: just pull the nail through the other side. If you
- 13:12Speaker 3: can't get to the head of it, and you can
- 13:14Speaker 3: do it that way. If you can't do that with
- 13:16Speaker 3: a screw. You know, if you have a screw under
- 13:18Speaker 3: the same circumstances, as you try to pull that through
- 13:19Speaker 3: you it's not going to happen because it's because it's
- 13:21Speaker 3: screwed in and it's the same I mean, the tension
- 13:23Speaker 3: and stuff that works basically the same. You're screwing these
- 13:25Speaker 3: into the ground, which gives you because even if you
- 13:28Speaker 3: don't have something solid to to anchor it into, that's
- 13:31Speaker 3: going to give you the tension, the reverse pressure you
- 13:33Speaker 3: need to keep it up. I mean, it makes a
- 13:34Speaker 3: lot of sense. And it also makes a lot of
- 13:37Speaker 3: sense why you have to go through and repair some
- 13:38Speaker 3: of these things that have been done because over time
- 13:41Speaker 3: that nail or that that that push pier is just
- 13:44Speaker 3: going to give away.
- 13:44Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it the main thing, I would the main
- 13:49Speaker 4: thing that I while we install helical piles is we're
- 13:52Speaker 4: able to quantify. I'm able to I'm able to know
- 13:55Speaker 4: that we are in good material. It's not we're not
- 13:58Speaker 4: just going to run it fifteen feet in every house
- 14:00Speaker 4: and call that good. We're able to We're able to
- 14:04Speaker 4: have data that tells us where that we're in soil
- 14:07Speaker 4: that is going to support the foundation, and that to
- 14:10Speaker 4: me is I mean, I'm providing a warranty, so I
- 14:13Speaker 4: want to know that we're there and I and we
- 14:15Speaker 4: can provide a long term solution. So if if if you're,
- 14:19Speaker 4: if you've had a settlement issue, if you're if you're
- 14:21Speaker 4: ever you know, unfortunate enough to have to deal with this, UH,
- 14:24Speaker 4: I would highly recommend helical piles UH over push piles.
- 14:29Speaker 4: We install exclusively install helicals. Other companies they do install both,
- 14:36Speaker 4: So definitely. But my guess is the benefit primary benefit
- 14:42Speaker 4: why they push the push piles UH is the cost.
- 14:45Speaker 4: It's a little cheaper to install. There's a little bit
- 14:50Speaker 4: more material cost with the helical because there's a plate, this,
- 14:54Speaker 4: this screw, the screw aspect of the helical has to
- 14:57Speaker 4: be welded into place, whereas the other one is just
- 15:00Speaker 4: say a pipe and typically can be installed with less people.
- 15:05Speaker 4: So it's a push pile is going to be a
- 15:08Speaker 4: little bit less expensive. But the roll out, to me,
- 15:10Speaker 4: the reliability isn't there like like you have in the helical.
- 15:13Speaker 3: And when is there a difference wing you're I know
- 15:16Speaker 3: that we've talked about on the show before, like.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Passing the eyeball test.
- 15:21Speaker 3: You know, things around your house that you could look
- 15:22Speaker 3: at where you can determine if maybe you need if
- 15:25Speaker 3: you're having some problems with settlement or something along those lines.
- 15:27Speaker 3: Just normal cracks versus things that it could be causing
- 15:30Speaker 3: the issues. Is there is there any particular like sort
- 15:35Speaker 3: of a shortcut that a home owner should take, like
- 15:37Speaker 3: the homes over a certain amount of age, it's on
- 15:40Speaker 3: a certain type of land. I'm seeing this type of
- 15:43Speaker 3: structural indications like cracks, whatever it might be, Like, what's
- 15:46Speaker 3: what's good shortcuts for somebody to be like, Okay, this
- 15:48Speaker 3: meets three out of five of the things on the
- 15:50Speaker 3: checklist or whatever, I better call somebody.
- 15:52Speaker 4: I mean just cracks and cracks, doors out of square,
- 15:55Speaker 4: doors that are no longer working, they're binding. I mean
- 15:58Speaker 4: mainly cracks are going to be are kind of your
- 16:01Speaker 4: giveaway sloping floors certainly, but typically all those if you're
- 16:05Speaker 4: getting settlement, you're gonna end up with cracks in the
- 16:07Speaker 4: exter your block or brick or in your interior finishes.
- 16:11Speaker 4: So that's that's, you know, the first indicator to me
- 16:14Speaker 4: that that I go to look at as I'm looking
- 16:16Speaker 4: for cracks that are guiding me into where the foundation
- 16:21Speaker 4: has moved or how it has moved. And then with
- 16:23Speaker 4: those cracks, we verify with things such as level laser
- 16:28Speaker 4: levels and four foot levels to confirm the assumptions we've
- 16:31Speaker 4: made based on how the cracks have developed.
- 16:35Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense. And so at worst
- 16:38Speaker 3: case scenario, I mean, it's better to be safe and sorry.
- 16:40Speaker 3: You can give a call, try to get on the schedule,
- 16:41Speaker 3: get somebody to take a look at it and see
- 16:43Speaker 3: if you have any.
- 16:44Speaker 2: Problems that are coming up.
- 16:45Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and that's that's always an option that you
- 16:47Speaker 3: can do with Foster Foundation Repair. Therefore, a number of
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- 17:09Speaker 3: We'll take a break and when we come back, I
- 17:10Speaker 3: thought maybe we could talk about lateral movement as well
- 17:13Speaker 3: as there are difference between between been able to determine
- 17:19Speaker 3: what those things are different repairs some of the other
- 17:21Speaker 3: mistakes you've seen along those lines. So we'll talk about
- 17:23Speaker 3: that a little bit when we come back. Plus any
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- 19:06Speaker 3: zero eight three zero four non three five five zero
- 19:09Speaker 3: zero eight. Let's see we did have a text line
- 19:12Speaker 3: that a text number that came in. Let's see the
- 19:16Speaker 3: last time and this wasn't uh this wasn't one of
- 19:19Speaker 3: your customers. Last time that I called a foundation repair,
- 19:24Speaker 3: they told me I could get a free estimate. I
- 19:26Speaker 3: got a free estimate, and what I got back was
- 19:28Speaker 3: so confusing, I couldn't make a decision. So I know
- 19:31Speaker 3: that you've talked a little bit about that a little
- 19:33Speaker 3: bit before. Anyway, that's one of the things you kind
- 19:35Speaker 3: of pride yourself one you you like to communicate with
- 19:38Speaker 3: your with your customers, with your clients and explain the
- 19:42Speaker 3: the options that are being put in front of them.
- 19:44Speaker 4: Yes, so I will. We will, We will work through
- 19:49Speaker 4: if there are multiple options, we will work through all
- 19:50Speaker 4: the multiple options and the cost the benefit, you know,
- 19:54Speaker 4: the cost benefit analysis of all of those, the pros
- 19:57Speaker 4: and the cons. You know, certain things are going to
- 19:59Speaker 4: be more reliable. The helical I mentioned earlier is going
- 20:03Speaker 4: to be one of those most reliable repair options.
- 20:07Speaker 2: That we have.
- 20:07Speaker 4: They're they're just that they're data driven and we know
- 20:10Speaker 4: what they're going to they're going to perform long term.
- 20:13Speaker 4: So yeah, I certainly I've been My background was home
- 20:17Speaker 4: inspections UH and then engineering structural inspections. So my my
- 20:22Speaker 4: background for fifteen years was evaluating houses and teaching people
- 20:28Speaker 4: what the problem was, what it looked like, what how
- 20:31Speaker 4: to operate their home. So yes, I've my That's what
- 20:35Speaker 4: I've done is just inform people how how to operate
- 20:39Speaker 4: their home, how to maintain it. So yes, it's we
- 20:42Speaker 4: when when we do an estimate, you'll get a written
- 20:44Speaker 4: document that will outline what we are going to do.
- 20:47Speaker 4: It's pretty specific to the steps that we are going
- 20:49Speaker 4: to do. A lot of times I will also include
- 20:52Speaker 4: the other things that we will not be doing. That way,
- 20:54Speaker 4: there's no hopefully there we eliminate the gray areas, so
- 20:58Speaker 4: everybody knows the owner is what what to expect, what
- 21:01Speaker 4: we will be doing, and what we won't And then
- 21:04Speaker 4: if if we're going to proceed, we'll end up with
- 21:07Speaker 4: with with a drawing. It'll lay out where he locals are.
- 21:11Speaker 2: You know where we're.
- 21:12Speaker 4: Going to be doing any given task. So the drawings
- 21:15Speaker 4: help gives you a plan view typical plan view of
- 21:19Speaker 4: a house, which is like a bird's eye view looking
- 21:20Speaker 4: down at the house. And then I'll give you I've
- 21:23Speaker 4: got a bunch of not generic but boiler plate cross
- 21:29Speaker 4: sections that kind of give you an understanding of what
- 21:32Speaker 4: the process will look like. So you can visualize what
- 21:37Speaker 4: a he loocal peer looks like, how it's attached to
- 21:40Speaker 4: a house, or if we're going to do, say a
- 21:43Speaker 4: rebar retrofit of a wall, it's going to explain you
- 21:46Speaker 4: know what what that looks like.
- 21:47Speaker 2: Very nice.
- 21:48Speaker 4: So an interior foundation drain is a good example that
- 21:52Speaker 4: that I'll give you a diagram of of how we
- 21:54Speaker 4: do it versus don't. I don't give you a diagram
- 21:56Speaker 4: of how the other the other the top of the
- 21:58Speaker 4: foot or drain crowd does it, but I'll give you
- 22:01Speaker 4: an example of a cross section of how we do it,
- 22:04Speaker 4: and hopefully that gives a little bit of understanding of
- 22:08Speaker 4: why we do it the way we do it. And
- 22:10Speaker 4: in some cases, like the interior drain, it is a
- 22:12Speaker 4: little bit more labor intensive than the other version that
- 22:15Speaker 4: the other companies will install, but there's reason for it.
- 22:19Speaker 4: And that's part of what my process is is I'm
- 22:22Speaker 4: educating why we do it this way and why it
- 22:25Speaker 4: might be a little bit more expensive, but the benefit
- 22:28Speaker 4: and the reason behind why we don't why we do
- 22:31Speaker 4: it this way and not.
- 22:32Speaker 2: The other way.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I can think of times in my life where
- 22:35Speaker 3: I've had decisions like that, and some sort of equality
- 22:37Speaker 3: of build or something like that, and where I've aired
- 22:40Speaker 3: on the side of getting the better quality and craftsmanship
- 22:42Speaker 3: and stuff done. At some point in the future. I
- 22:44Speaker 3: always remember that moment and thanked myself for making that
- 22:48Speaker 3: decision at some point in times like man, if I
- 22:50Speaker 3: would have gone the other route, this would have been
- 22:52Speaker 3: so much more harder, or this would have been more
- 22:54Speaker 3: difficult or more expensive, or whatever it is, it's always
- 22:56Speaker 3: the right decision.
- 22:57Speaker 2: To make the right decision first, I think that's the
- 22:59Speaker 2: way to do.
- 23:00Speaker 4: It, and that's that's we bring up a good point.
- 23:03Speaker 4: We're working. We just started a project a couple of
- 23:05Speaker 4: days ago, which was originally I estimated it was a
- 23:08Speaker 4: pretty good sized project. It had a foundation repair aspect
- 23:11Speaker 4: with helical soil anchors, but also the garage floor had
- 23:14Speaker 4: dropped pretty significantly, so had this other aspect, which is
- 23:17Speaker 4: remove and replace the garage floor. Well, we didn't originally
- 23:20Speaker 4: win the job. Another contractor got the job. They went
- 23:24Speaker 4: out and installed the helical soil anchors and then essentially
- 23:27Speaker 4: disappeared on the concrete job. I don't know if it
- 23:29Speaker 4: was a that they weren't capable, but they essentially walked
- 23:33Speaker 4: away from it, and and now we're back in doing
- 23:36Speaker 4: this this job, and the owner sent me a text
- 23:38Speaker 4: that said she was very happy that we were involved.
- 23:41Speaker 4: So it's you know, it's we're I will say, we're
- 23:46Speaker 4: very reliable. We say what we say we're going to do,
- 23:48Speaker 4: we're going to do it. And and sometimes it takes
- 23:51Speaker 4: a little bit of time to get us out there
- 23:53Speaker 4: to start the project, but we're pretty straightforward with you know,
- 23:56Speaker 4: our timing how long it's going to take us to
- 23:59Speaker 4: get there, and then how long we believe it's going
- 24:02Speaker 4: to take us to do the project as well.
- 24:03Speaker 3: Again, I just kind of want to highlight that because
- 24:05Speaker 3: there's so many places that you'll get you know, you'll
- 24:09Speaker 3: get kind of snowed in with you try to get
- 24:12Speaker 3: on the schedule, you get rescheduled a bunch of times,
- 24:13Speaker 3: you don't actually get a full estimate. You can just
- 24:16Speaker 3: have somebody that maybe gives you a pre call, or
- 24:18Speaker 3: you go through a circus a little bit to get
- 24:21Speaker 3: somebody to come out, and you never really know where
- 24:23Speaker 3: you stand.
- 24:23Speaker 2: Having somebody that says, hey, it might take us a.
- 24:25Speaker 3: Little while to get there, but when we get there,
- 24:27Speaker 3: this is what we're going to do, and this is
- 24:28Speaker 3: how we're going to deploy it. Being able to rely
- 24:30Speaker 3: on that is really unfortunately getting more difficult to find.
- 24:34Speaker 4: Yeah, and when we start a job, we start, we
- 24:36Speaker 4: stay there until it's finished, I mean unless it's There
- 24:39Speaker 4: are certain projects like if you're pouring a concrete foot
- 24:41Speaker 4: or you pour the foot and then you have to
- 24:43Speaker 4: wait a week or so. But essentially we once we
- 24:46Speaker 4: start a project, we're on it. We don't bounce around.
- 24:49Speaker 4: We're on it until it's done. There's too many, too
- 24:52Speaker 4: many risks to leave one of these the type of
- 24:54Speaker 4: work we do. Leaving these excavations open, not like dangerous,
- 24:58Speaker 4: but just risks for us being profitable and damaging the
- 25:03Speaker 4: house and things like that.
- 25:04Speaker 3: So I'm gonna talk about lateral movement here. In just
- 25:06Speaker 3: a moment, I got two more text messages I wanted
- 25:08Speaker 3: to get to.
- 25:09Speaker 5: Uh.
- 25:09Speaker 3: First of those is, uh, let's see, I'm looking at
- 25:12Speaker 3: an older home dealing with a real estate agent. There
- 25:15Speaker 3: was a there was a oh, there was an engineering report,
- 25:19Speaker 3: so I guess an inspection attached to it that noted
- 25:22Speaker 3: inspector flagged minor foundation settling.
- 25:26Speaker 2: How worried should we be?
- 25:28Speaker 4: Well, that would be a great question for that engineer
- 25:32Speaker 4: minor settlement. I mean, so a lot of a lot
- 25:37Speaker 4: of contractors will come out and put a laser level
- 25:39Speaker 4: on a house, so they'll essentially measure the foundation, mortar joints,
- 25:43Speaker 4: or to the floor system, and you can you can
- 25:46Speaker 4: do that on any house, and you're going to be
- 25:48Speaker 4: able to document settlement. Every house settles, every building settles.
- 25:52Speaker 4: You know, these large commercial buildings that they they they're building,
- 25:56Speaker 4: they're they're estimating how much the building is going to
- 26:00Speaker 4: settle with all the geotechnical engineering and structural calculations that
- 26:05Speaker 4: they do. So everything's going to settle. So settlement is
- 26:08Speaker 4: not the issue I have with settlement. When I'm going
- 26:11Speaker 4: to recommend to repair is when it is an ongoing issue.
- 26:14Speaker 4: When it is progressive, it continues to get worse, which
- 26:17Speaker 4: means there's a soil condition, inadequate soil condition, or maybe
- 26:22Speaker 4: there's a water issue, or if it's the drought related issue,
- 26:26Speaker 4: there's it's excessive drought related movement. So I'm looking for
- 26:31Speaker 4: those those things that are progressive. If something has settled
- 26:35Speaker 4: one time and it stabilizes on a forty year old house,
- 26:39Speaker 4: you know the primary goal with foundation repair when it
- 26:42Speaker 4: comes to settlement is to stabilize the house. Yes, we
- 26:45Speaker 4: can in some cases lift and level the house to
- 26:48Speaker 4: some extent, but the primary goal is stabilization. So if
- 26:51Speaker 4: it's now stable and has been for twenty years, we
- 26:54Speaker 4: can't make it any better than that. So minor settlement,
- 26:59Speaker 4: you know, it's not going to be a safety issue typically,
- 27:02Speaker 4: So you're that's that That's what I'm looking for, is
- 27:05Speaker 4: progressive movement. But yeah, minor settlement. If that's what the
- 27:08Speaker 4: engineer is stating, I would I would certainly have a
- 27:11Speaker 4: conversation with that individual and and kind of pick their
- 27:14Speaker 4: brain and see what see what their thoughts are, and
- 27:19Speaker 4: then I would go straight to storm water UH and
- 27:22Speaker 4: try to make sure all the stormwater issues are addressed
- 27:27Speaker 4: around the house.
- 27:29Speaker 2: UH.
- 27:29Speaker 4: And that because that's going to be the primary reason
- 27:33Speaker 4: agoie movement would occur. Is if you've got a broken
- 27:36Speaker 4: down spout or leaky gutter or something, and and and
- 27:40Speaker 4: on that note, on the stormwater note, if it's an
- 27:42Speaker 4: older house, you probably have terra cotta drain pipes. I
- 27:45Speaker 4: would highly recommend a drain inspection UH to verify their condition.
- 27:49Speaker 3: That's all great information with Bratt hauston from farso foundational
- 27:52Speaker 3: fair one more text message.
- 27:53Speaker 2: I want to get to lateral movement.
- 27:55Speaker 3: This is uh, let's see my drive This is from
- 27:58Speaker 3: the three zero four six non z D. My driveway
- 28:01Speaker 3: is cracking and sinking in the middle. Is that a
- 28:04Speaker 3: foundation issue? Just the concrete and is that something that
- 28:06Speaker 3: you work on?
- 28:07Speaker 4: Yes, we do work on that. We do not lift concrete.
- 28:11Speaker 4: We remove and replace concrete. There are there are ways
- 28:14Speaker 4: to lift. I'm very I've had concrete lifting done at
- 28:20Speaker 4: my personal residence. We have a there's a basketball court
- 28:23Speaker 4: away from my house that had a section that had
- 28:26Speaker 4: settled and it became a trip hazard, and we paid
- 28:28Speaker 4: a contractor to lift it. Perfectly valid project there. I'm
- 28:33Speaker 4: very leary about lifting concrete near a foundation because you
- 28:38Speaker 4: can exert lateral pressure on a foundation because anytime you're
- 28:41Speaker 4: injecting a liquid or a material under pressure, you're exerting
- 28:46Speaker 4: you're exerting that pressure to lift the slabe, you're exerting
- 28:48Speaker 4: pressure on everything around it, which might be your foundation.
- 28:53Speaker 4: A month or so ago, I looked at a house
- 28:55Speaker 4: that had concrete lifting done and it actually pushed the foundation,
- 28:58Speaker 4: blew the foundation walls out. Word on a on a
- 29:03Speaker 4: porch that was elevated. So but yes, we do work
- 29:06Speaker 4: on we do remove and replace concrete if it's settled.
- 29:11Speaker 4: Concrete settlement around a house can be a result of
- 29:14Speaker 4: movement of the foundation. So in the event you have
- 29:16Speaker 4: a full basement and the basement wall is being displaced
- 29:20Speaker 4: inward the soil, the slab will have now have a
- 29:24Speaker 4: place to move and the slab can move with it,
- 29:27Speaker 4: so in some cases that the movement can be a
- 29:30Speaker 4: result of foundation movement. But typically a slab out away
- 29:33Speaker 4: from a building has nothing to do with the foundation.
- 29:36Speaker 4: If it's just a driveway, typically it's a four inch
- 29:38Speaker 4: pad poured directly in this unfortunately in our region, poured
- 29:42Speaker 4: directly on the clay soils which will expand and contract,
- 29:46Speaker 4: and then if water is getting underneath the concrete, it
- 29:48Speaker 4: can cause erosion of the dirt. So certainly something we
- 29:53Speaker 4: could come take a look at for you.
- 29:54Speaker 3: So that's a great answer to that as well, So
- 29:57Speaker 3: let me make sure you have the information if you
- 29:59Speaker 3: want to contact Foster Foundation Repair. Threes are a four
- 30:01Speaker 3: seven seven six sixty two sixty three. Threes are a
- 30:03Speaker 3: four seven seven six sixty two sixty three. The website
- 30:05Speaker 3: Foster Foundation Repair dot com, Foster Foundation Repair dot Com.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Before we get out of here, I did want to
- 30:10Speaker 3: talk about you brought it up before the show today,
- 30:13Speaker 3: some of the differences between settling and lateral movement and
- 30:16Speaker 3: things along those lines as far as repair goes, diagnosis
- 30:20Speaker 3: and things like that. What's the difference that a homeowner
- 30:23Speaker 3: or a business owner is going to see and what
- 30:25Speaker 3: some of your repair strategies for that.
- 30:27Speaker 4: So there's there's two primary causes well, types of lateral movement.
- 30:31Speaker 4: One is going to be associated with settlement. So imagine
- 30:34Speaker 4: a house sitting on a steep hill and the back
- 30:36Speaker 4: foundation is dropping and sliding down the hill. Saw one
- 30:39Speaker 4: of those last week, and that situation is going to
- 30:42Speaker 4: require both vertical helical peers and horizontal helical soil anchors.
- 30:47Speaker 4: So it's the same concept. The soil anchor is essentially
- 30:50Speaker 4: like a screw pile, but it's installed more lateral than vertical.
- 30:55Speaker 4: So we see that quite a bit in the in
- 30:57Speaker 4: the South Hills area, just because we've got a lot
- 30:59Speaker 4: of steep, steep hill sides with houses built onto them.
- 31:04Speaker 4: Probably the most common lateral displacement issue is going to
- 31:07Speaker 4: be like a basement wall that is being pushed in
- 31:09Speaker 4: by the earth and the hydrostatic pressure, and that can develop.
- 31:15Speaker 4: You know, that's that's pretty obvious if the wall is exposed,
- 31:19Speaker 4: but it can also end up causing stair step cracks
- 31:22Speaker 4: that look very similar to and are often misdiagnosed as
- 31:26Speaker 4: settlement cracks. Plenty of plenty of times I've seen contractors
- 31:30Speaker 4: install settlement related fixes for a house that is suffering
- 31:35Speaker 4: from lateral displacement, and which is very unfortunate because that's
- 31:39Speaker 4: money that they could have used to to ap properly
- 31:42Speaker 4: fix the foundation. But there's there's the lateral movement. There's
- 31:46Speaker 4: a lot of different options or methods that have been
- 31:49Speaker 4: used and are still used today. Probably the first generation
- 31:53Speaker 4: repairs were like a steel I beam repair, where you
- 31:56Speaker 4: would just put a steel ibeam against a Boeing basement
- 31:59Speaker 4: wall and it's anchored to the floor basement floor and
- 32:03Speaker 4: the floor diaphragm overhead that that's that's a very common one.
- 32:07Speaker 4: It's still done today. It's a it's a fairly it's
- 32:11Speaker 4: one of the lower cost repair methods. The Another kind
- 32:16Speaker 4: of early generation repair was a rebar retrofit, which is
- 32:19Speaker 4: where you would actually knock the face of the block
- 32:21Speaker 4: out of the foundation wall and insert rebar and concrete
- 32:24Speaker 4: into the wall. But so those are kind of the
- 32:31Speaker 4: tried and trude repair methods and a newer version and
- 32:34Speaker 4: I won't say new, but it's it's much newer than
- 32:37Speaker 4: that is a carbon fiber strap repair. And that is
- 32:41Speaker 4: a repair method where it is a it's a carbon
- 32:44Speaker 4: fiber strap that is is anchored or adhered to the
- 32:47Speaker 4: block foundation wall with epoxy and carbon fiber is very
- 32:51Speaker 4: strong intention and when a wall bows inward, the inside
- 32:54Speaker 4: face of the wall is is trying to elongate. So
- 32:57Speaker 4: if if you have a strap on it, it loads
- 32:59Speaker 4: that trap and tension. So it's it's an effective method
- 33:04Speaker 4: U to to reinforce reinforce the wall against further inward
- 33:09Speaker 4: boeing Uh. One of the issues with carbon fiber is
- 33:12Speaker 4: it has very low shear strength or essentially no sheer strength,
- 33:16Speaker 4: which is one of the failure modes that a wall
- 33:18Speaker 4: can occur failure mode that can occur in a wall.
- 33:23Speaker 4: So that there's additional considerations that need to be taken
- 33:26Speaker 4: when carbon fibers is employed. And really the last one
- 33:32Speaker 4: is the last repair method is the heelical soil anchor.
- 33:34Speaker 4: I sort of touched on that earlier, but it's it's again,
- 33:37Speaker 4: it's a it's a it's a screw that's screwed into
- 33:40Speaker 4: the ground horizontally and then anchored to the foundation, typically
- 33:44Speaker 4: with a piece of steel channel, and it counteracts the pressure.
- 33:49Speaker 4: And it's very important that whoever is coming up with
- 33:53Speaker 4: the plan for for the foundation repair on a lateral
- 33:55Speaker 4: displacement is that they evaluate the house as a whole
- 33:58Speaker 4: because all of the repair methods, with the exception of
- 34:01Speaker 4: the helical soil anchor, rely on the floor diaphragm for
- 34:06Speaker 4: lateral restraint. And the floor diaphragm is essentially the floor system.
- 34:09Speaker 4: If you're in a basement, you look up, that's your
- 34:11Speaker 4: floor diaphragm that at every house basically in this area
- 34:17Speaker 4: is constructed with a what is called a restrained retaining
- 34:20Speaker 4: wall and the top of the wall is tied to
- 34:23Speaker 4: the floor system. So if you took that floor away,
- 34:25Speaker 4: the top of the wall would just lean in and
- 34:30Speaker 4: and in this case, when you have this lateral pressure
- 34:33Speaker 4: acting on the foundation, if it's significant enough, it will
- 34:35Speaker 4: actually push the floor diaphragm to the rear and that's
- 34:38Speaker 4: when you end up getting stairstep cracks on the side
- 34:40Speaker 4: walls that are misdiagnosed as settlement. So all of the
- 34:44Speaker 4: repair options, with the exception of the helical soil anchor,
- 34:47Speaker 4: rely on that floor diaphragm. So if you're evaluating, if
- 34:50Speaker 4: I'm evaluating a building and I'm seeing the front wall
- 34:54Speaker 4: is displaced, it's leaning in, and then I'm seeing the
- 34:56Speaker 4: center columns are leaning to the rear and the back
- 34:58Speaker 4: wall is leaning into the rear. In my view, there's
- 35:02Speaker 4: only one repair option. It is the helical soil anchor
- 35:05Speaker 4: because it is not relying on that floor diaphragm whereas
- 35:08Speaker 4: all the other ones are. It is going to the
- 35:10Speaker 4: soil anchors actually going to counteract the pressure acting on
- 35:13Speaker 4: the foundation by developing strength from the soil that is
- 35:17Speaker 4: it is anchored to. And we end up installing a
- 35:20Speaker 4: lot of soil anchors to resist lateral displacement just because
- 35:23Speaker 4: of that condition.
- 35:25Speaker 3: Just incredible information with Brett Haschen from a Foster foundation repair.
- 35:28Speaker 3: When it comes to really diagnosing and looking into what's
- 35:31Speaker 3: causing your foundation issues, whether it be lateral movement or
- 35:34Speaker 3: settling of some kind, and there's a major difference between
- 35:36Speaker 3: those two things.
- 35:37Speaker 2: Is just acknowledge and explaining.
- 35:39Speaker 3: So if you're having some of these problems, diagnosing the
- 35:41Speaker 3: right problem is a huge is a huge step in
- 35:44Speaker 3: this because if you're making a medical analogy here, if
- 35:48Speaker 3: you're if you're treating the wrong symptom or the wrong cause,
- 35:51Speaker 3: then you're never going to get the symptoms straightened out.
- 35:54Speaker 3: You have to get the cause fixed first before you
- 35:57Speaker 3: can even go to your cosmetic repairs and things along
- 35:59Speaker 3: those lines. So you have to get the right diagnosis.
- 36:01Speaker 4: Absolutely. When I was doing structural inspections solely before I
- 36:06Speaker 4: started doing the repairs, one of the most common phone
- 36:09Speaker 4: calls we would get was we've had three contractors out,
- 36:11Speaker 4: We've got three different repair plans, and that's when they
- 36:14Speaker 4: would realize they need to get somebody else, typically an
- 36:18Speaker 4: unbiased individual like myself at that point, to come up
- 36:22Speaker 4: with a plan that is this is how you fix
- 36:23Speaker 4: your house. And I still hear that today. I'll be
- 36:26Speaker 4: out doing an estimate and the owner will say I've
- 36:29Speaker 4: got two estimates and they're wildly different, and at that
- 36:32Speaker 4: point I know mine's probably going to be different than those,
- 36:35Speaker 4: and that's when I suggest that they engage an engineer
- 36:39Speaker 4: because typically my plan is going to be very similar.
- 36:42Speaker 4: It'll have some variants, but typically very similar to the
- 36:45Speaker 4: engineer's plan.
- 36:46Speaker 3: We've never talked about this, so I don't think that
- 36:48Speaker 3: this is something that you offer. So we can just
- 36:50Speaker 3: point people in the right direction here from the three
- 36:52Speaker 3: zero four eight seven six, we had somebody asking about financing. Now,
- 36:57Speaker 3: I don't think that you provide Yeah, we do. You
- 36:59Speaker 3: do provo not gun I'm sorry, So you do provide financing,
- 37:02Speaker 3: So that's you don't have to necessarily get a second
- 37:04Speaker 3: loan or a second mortgage or something like that. You
- 37:06Speaker 3: can at least try through Foster Foundation Reare.
- 37:09Speaker 4: Yeah, so we have we have a financing option through
- 37:11Speaker 4: Green Sky. We also have a I assume it's still available.
- 37:17Speaker 4: I think it's through Huntington Bank, another option. So we
- 37:20Speaker 4: have two different options, two different companies that will provide
- 37:23Speaker 4: financing for these projects. We don't have a lot of
- 37:26Speaker 4: people that finance our projects for whatever reason. I don't know,
- 37:29Speaker 4: I think, I don't know. I mean, are we tend
- 37:33Speaker 4: to tend to handle the bigger projects also the bigger
- 37:37Speaker 4: foundation repairs, the big digouts. I mean, we've got we've
- 37:41Speaker 4: got a big dig out going on on a church
- 37:42Speaker 4: right now that it's quite expensive, but it's a it's
- 37:45Speaker 4: a very large project. So but yes, we do, we
- 37:48Speaker 4: do offer financing. Amber. My wife is uh, she's that's
- 37:53Speaker 4: her department, not mine.
- 37:55Speaker 3: So you just make the phone calling. You can get
- 37:57Speaker 3: any of your questions storted out as far as that
- 37:59Speaker 3: goes information. So yes, Coller, that is one option that
- 38:02Speaker 3: you have for UC and get a hold of Foster
- 38:03Speaker 3: Foundation Repair again. That number is three zero four seven
- 38:06Speaker 3: seven six sixty two sixty three three zero four seven
- 38:09Speaker 3: seven six sixty two sixty three online Foster Foundation Repair
- 38:13Speaker 3: dot com. Foster Foundation Repair dot com seven seven six
- 38:15Speaker 3: sixty two sixty three. Frett, thank you so much for
- 38:17Speaker 3: your time again this week. We appreciate it.
- 38:19Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, see you back.
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