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3 Guys Before The Game - Welcome Home Darian DeVrIes (Episode 543) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Hello, everybody, Welcome in. It's time. Yes, it's time.
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  Step up to the center and come on in. You know, we're like,
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  we're like a band. We're just barely barely getting along. We're better
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  when we're we are better when we're all together, but we're barely getting along.
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  Good life. We're just we're just staying together for the album. We're
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  just staying together so we can make less of zero. That's what That's what
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  our goal is. Some the sum is greater than the just let's keep let's
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  keep doing this because we're making nothing at all, so let's just keep doing
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  it, all right, good? Yeah, that sounds like a relationships for
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  strain, is all I'm saying. And go on tour together. And I
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  get it. You know, I knew Hoppy when he came in, he
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  back from the legislative session just seemed to bit off. It just wasn't his
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  self himself anymore. Three guys before the game, We're ready to go.
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  The title of the program is Welcome Home Darren Devrees. We'll explain that in
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  just a little bit. This program will focus on Darren Devrees's welcoming press conference
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  and for the last time, although it won't be for the last time.
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  Are you kidding? This is forever the officiating in the West Virginia, Iowa
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  NCAA. TOURNA will always be a reference when Brad calls me up when I'm
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  sitting at the old folks home. Now, Hoppy, do you remember in
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  twenty twenty four or West Virginia got a flat out? Yeah, well it
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  was ninety calls to one. People should go to jail for that. Three
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  All right away, we go since the last time we got together here
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  on three guys, the women's basketball team played that very same night, and
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  that was obviously a game that will I might fair to say, you won't
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  ever forget it. It wasn't. It wasn't the results that West Virginia wanted,
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  and yet perhaps it accomplished every single thing you could ever accomplish in a
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  game that you don't win. And we'll pull that apart and explain that a
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  little bit more in detail. We'll also discuss the arrival of Darren Debrees into
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  the Mountain here basketball camp, how that all went went, and then maybe
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  some football who knows plus textual healing, I have a football thing, So
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  just letting you know, we don't. We didn't get to that in our
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  on our meeting prior to correct somebody, you know, now, the only
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  thing, the only discussion we had prior to starting, just seconds before we
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  started to roll tape was that Hoppy told me about an event that he's got
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  to go to this afternoon that I wasn't invited to that was. That was
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  the only event. So we move on from that. We'll just grow and
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  learn. You know who your friends are. And I thought it was who's
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  more prickly well bred or I. It was two to one, and me
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  and you are both in agreement that he is much more prickly. Absolutely,
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  you're the teapot that simmers and then you go and it just comes off.
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  It's untrue. Yeah, already see, you just reacted to it because I
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  voiced my displeasure. He sits over there for six months and doesn't say anything
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  and then went it on loads and then the top of the building comes off.
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  Exactly. I can hear them. It's more consistent. I hear him
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  upstairs, so say something I'll like. I'm gonna tell you the officiating.
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  The officiating in the game between West Virginia and Iowa and the NCAA Tournament is
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  always going to be the long lasting storyline to that game, which is unfortunate
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  because perhaps what will get lost is the absolute fact that West Virginia did some
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  things to Iowa that had not been done all season. For example, six
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  points in a quarter, one field goal in the other quarter, so six
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  in the second quarter, one field goal, in the fourth order, season
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  high turnovers, and they did some everything they needed to do. Now,
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  they could have shot the ball better, no question about that, but unfortunately
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  the officiating. So the officiating reached to the level that kerchieval and I've known
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  him for forty years as man and boy for forty years. My boy went
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  on an absolute pilgrimage. I thought at one point he was just gonna light
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  a torch and head down to the big twelve offices down there in Irvine,
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  Texas. He was fired up, led to a commentary and the majority of
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  his talk program is a gossip show that he does in the mornings here on
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  this for this company, Gagfly, he spent probably seventy percent. I'd think
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  it fair to say one day, the day after the game, outraged,
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  outraged, I tell you, well, go ahead, okay, Well a
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  couple things that you're close? Is that that I mean, I'm close.
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  There's a lot to unpack about that game, and I'd like to say there
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  are a lot of positives for West Virginia. You were part of the national
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  discussion and a lot of people watched it. You improved your brand dramatically.
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  Almost five million people watched the game you can't buy that kind of branding,
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  so that was really good for West Virginia. But on the officiating, my
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  point was not I want to be clear that the officiating did not I would
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  not say the officiating cost West Virginia the game. West Virginia did not shoot
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  well, did not shoot well from two, did not shoot well from three,
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  did not get to the basket. There was a lot of things.
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  My point was that the officiating had a significant impact on the outcome. That
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  it wasn't the story, but it was a subset story. Okay, it
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  was a story, not the story because these stories iowa iow in the game.
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  But it was a story about the game, and it had a significant
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  impact on the outcome of the game. And Brad, we'll probably get into
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  the numbers, but the numbers back that up. I don't think that's even
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  debatable that it had a significant impact on the outcome of the game. And
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  I don't know what that was about, whether it was the moment was too
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  big, or I don't buy into conspiracy theories that ESPN and the NCAA got
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  together and we gotta have Caitlin Clark all the way through. I don't buy
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  into that. I just I just think the numbers reflect that it was.
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  It was unbalanced, unbalanced to the point where it was obvious, not just
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  to West Virginia fans and we always complained about the offishing, but to a
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  national audience saw it as well. So and the coach is not going to
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  comment on it because he can't buy Big twelve rules. But when I had
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  Coach Cooggle on my program this week and I asked him, I said,
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  you don't have to comment. I'm just gonna say some things, and you
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  stop me if I'm wrong. And I said a couple of things, like
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  it had a significant outcome, it had a signiving impact. So he didn't
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  stop me. I mean, he knows too he couldn't comment on it.
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  So it was a story and it did have an impact, clearly on the
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  outcome. I agree with how you presented that, and I think it needed
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  to be noted, not in the form of whining like that game we the
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  official scooters, but just that it was part of the story. Correct.
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  I would echo all of that. I would add to that, I might
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  disagree with you. It might have been the story really coming out of there.
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  I mean, this is and maybe it's because it's fresh in person of
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  the moment. I don't remember this being a national story on national television platforms.
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  Dame Lillard, multi time NBA All Star, chimed in on it.
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  I don't recall that very often. I thought it was clearly obvious that the
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  officiating, and I'm with you, they weren't trying to get Kaitlin Clark to
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  the next round. ESPN did not send an edict down to get Kaitlin Clark.
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  It just the officials had a bad game. Wes Raginia didn't shoot it
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  well from three, right, And as my point always is, with the
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  officiating, we talk about that and we say specific players didn't shoot well from
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  three. If they do, you probably win. So my point is when
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  those officials have an off night, and they did, there were multiple calls
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  that you can look at and say, you guys just missed it. That
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  was not the right call. And I've said a million times so all my
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  disclaimers, refereeing is really hard. Refereing basketball is hard. There's a lot
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  going on there. I get that. But if we're going to hold players
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  accountable and coaches accountable and people lose their jobs because of wins and losses,
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  you can't have officiating that looks like that. You just you simply can't.
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  And yeah, I'll give you some numbers, Hobby, because I think this
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  goes beyond. Hey, you guys are homers and you're just screaming about this.
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  There's some numbers, and what the numbers tell you is this, guys,
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  there were statistical outliers both ways, both in how many foul calls West
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  Virginia got against them and how many foul calls Iowa got for them. They
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  were on the opposite ends of the spectrum things that hadn't happened much all year.
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  That's where I think you start to go. Come on here, because
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  listen, West Virginia was going to have more fouls in that game. Iowa
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  was going to shoot more free throws in West Virginia because of style of play,
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  I was not as physical on defense. Quite frankly, they don't guard.
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  They don't even guard as well as they did the other night. In
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  most of our games, and I've watched most of them over the last two
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  years. Their defense was pretty good the other night on West Virginia. But
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  West Virginia's style and game plan was to get physical and body them, especially
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  Caitlin Clark, So the fouls were going to be off balance. We can
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  acknowledge that and know that, but some of those miscalls down the stretch when
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  that games tied with two minutes, they were just they just weren't the right
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  call. They just simply weren't. I'll give you numbers after you give your
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  statement here. Well, my thought on that is this, and I said
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  this back on Sportsland. I host that program two nights a week, Monday
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  through Friday consistently there for're all involved. And my point was this, the
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  NC DOUBA failed, the NC DOUBLEA failed in this, and they failed in
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  this because one of the storylines coming out of the officiating was that a West
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  Virginian was on the crew and West Virginian who lives in Fairmont. So immediately
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  that's wrong. Yeah, that's wrong, and it's unfair to him. Yes,
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  it's unfair to West Virginia because West Virginia potentially could not get calls because
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  the official didn't want tom as though it was favoring West Virginia. So it
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  hurts there. And if it went the other way and West Virginia got calls
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  in the Iowa people, So you put yourself NCAA in a position to be
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  criticized. You must live beyond reproach in these situations, and it's pretty easy
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  to do. It's pretty easy to take him out and don't even set that
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  scenario up. That's one. Two. That's the wrong time to have a
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  bad game as an officiating crew. You think because you're there, you're there
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  because you're supposed to be among the best. And this is a spotlight game
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  with the premier team in the country, who has the premier player in the
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  all time leading scorer. That's not the day that you can have a bad
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  day. And here's what happened. And I've seen thousand plus games. The
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  game got too big, and people on that crew shrunk as a result because
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  they don't normally work in front of fourteen thousand plus in those environments, and
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  they know normally work when the so much is on the line as to whether
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  one team advances or not. And they what pissed me off were not missed
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  calls, were phantom calls, A lack of contact make it being a call.
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  It should be the other way, it should be okay. So you
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  could see they got slapped and you're just gonna go. They were letting them
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  play. But when there isn't significant contact advantage disadvantage and you make the call,
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  you just you shrunk to the moment and it got too big for you.
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  And the great ones athletes, coaches, players, broadcasters, it doesn't
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  get too big. When it gets big, you go like I got it
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  and they didn't. That's what made me upset. Now, with all that
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  said, I'm going back to everything that you said. It absolutely was a
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  storyline of the game. But West Virginia have made some shots and you beat
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  them. You could. But what drives me nuts about that comment, And
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  of course that's right, that's right every game. But you also don't call
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  the foul on Kyle Watson in the lane that didn't happen. It's not an
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  and one. You also don't miss the hook and hold that was on Stulky
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  that you called on tiers of more that you then went to review and they
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  had to look at that video and going, God, we missed that call,
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  but we can't reverse it. So that does change the game. That's
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  that's a kin to missing a three point shot. That's similar to missing a
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  layup, and West Virginia missed a lot of inside shots. That's part of
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  the story. But those miss calls. Caitlin Clark pushes off and steps back,
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  creates space and makes a shot that is just like a misshot from West
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  Virginia. So I don't know that we can just say West Virginia's got to
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  make two more layups or one more three. It's just as easy to say,
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  don't miss those calls that did have a significant impact. And I'm not
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  talking about a game that Ioia won by ten or win away, go that
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  game's tied with two minutes to go. No, that's it. Those calls
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  down the stretch, the ones that we just mentioned, the phantom on Kiah
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  Watson in the lane that absolutely changed the game, changed the game. The
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  hook and hold on the other end change the game. I don't know how
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  you can look at that, right, I mean, that's a that should
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  be on an instructional video. Will Iowa player had West Virginia's player hooked and
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  was holding her and pulled that So go ahead. I'm just gonna make one
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  other point, not about the official but about the game broadcast. Is that
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  I got to heard from a lot of people like, oh, it was
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  so pro Iowa and the announcers, everybody's in on Iowa. I have zero
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  problem with that, zero problem with that, because we're in the same business.
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  The attraction was Iowa. The attraction was Caitlin Clark. West Virginia was
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  not the attraction. It could have been any team, didn't matter, didn't
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  matter, it could have been playing the Lakers and Caitlin Clark and Iowa was
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  still the story. So I get that, and so I take no issue
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  with that, even though it was hard for West Virginia fans to watch it
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  at times because of that. So with that being said, I think the
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  reason a lot of people raise that complaint is that you're starting off with a
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  premise that you think it's supposed to be fifty to fifty. Okay, So
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  if you do that, then you can absolutely raise your hand up and say,
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  like, wait, it wasn't fair, it wasn't balanced. This is
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  not at all about fair and balance. That's not how they begin a journalism.
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  This is not journalism. This is telling a visual story of a game.
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  And as Hoppy said, the main attraction was Caitlin Clark. They're going
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  to tell that story because the majority of people aren't vested in West Virginia.
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  They're vested in Caitlin Clark and women's basketball, and what she does is the
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  all time leading score. So if West Virginia had Caitlin Clark on its team,
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  the storyline would have been Caitlyn Clark. So don't begin a game and
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  go like way second, they weren't being fair. They don't care. They're
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  telling a visual story, correct or not. They're going to tell a story.
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  So if you try to play fifty to fifty, that will never happen
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  to you. You just like, here's a Nike suggestion for you. Turn
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  a frickin TV down and turn the radio on and sync it up. You'll
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  get the West Virginia broadcast. You know, I think about some football games
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  of years past and during the Major Harris era and CBS came in West Virginia's
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  playing Penn State and Brent Musburger says, you come across this Star City Bridge
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  if you're lucky enough to have a ticket to the ball game, and Major
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  Harrison, I mean Major Harris was the story. By the same token,
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  when West Virginia played Boston College years ago and they had Doug Flutie, Doug
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  Flutie was the story. That's the attraction, and that's what you live with.
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  In when you're playing in that environment, in that level. Now to
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  finish this on an upswim. That's why I think West Virginia's should be so
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  proud of what they did. They turned themselves into the story by the end
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  of against right with the way they played, the way they handled it,
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  and hop from the branding perspective, the national story coming out of there is
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  West Virginia got host. Yes, so West Virginian doesn't even I mean,
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  this will be last time we have to scream and yell about it on this
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  platform. But you really, West Virgindian doesn't need to scream about it.
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  No, right, No, they just walk away and say yeah because everybody
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  else is talking about that part of it. So branding wise, yeah,
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  I thought West Virginia. You get greedy, though, don't you. You
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  get into the game. Going into the game, we said, hey,
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  play with them, make it a game better your situation, help you with
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  recruiting, and walk out of there. And that's a good night. And
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  you get into that thing that's tied in two much you're gonna scure that man
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  win the game, like win the game, so your expectations change a little
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  bit. But that was a good night. At the end of the day,
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  I believe that was a good night for Mark Kellogg in this program moving
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  forward, There's no question. And also four point nine million people watched it,
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  but I would say ninety eight percent of women's basketball players watched it.
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  Okay, So when Clark killho, when Mark Kellogg goes out recruiting and saying,
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  oh, as you saw the other night, we could really use you
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  on our team because we were just winning a couple points of beating I what
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  said, there you go. I talked to him yesterday and he said he
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  had a phone call with a girl the day after and he said a player
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  prospect, and he said, she said, coach, she said, I
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  love the way that Harrison and Quinnley playing. Boom she goes, and he
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  goes, So like, for the first time, I'm not going, Yeah,
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  we're like seventy five miles south of Pittsburgh. I don't have to explain
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  who JJ Quinnerley is, right, she already knew it. And so that's
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  that bounce that you're trying to get and you put you pill off of that,
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  like how much it bounce to West Virginia get off people like, oh,
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  I watched Pat White and Steve Slayton. You know that, and that
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  just that's how it works. So you you come away with everything from that
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  game, you come away with everything except the victory. I heard that,
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  that's what I heard. Is that what I said? Or I said at
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  the top of the show. But you don't listen because you think it's live.
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  I'm sorry, said to Kama, said Tony Kreed. He doesn't listen
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  any either. What he's attacking you for that he'll do the same thing coming
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  up here. So he's being prickly. This is what's going to do.
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  This is what it's going to break this whole group. The truth. You
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  know who's you're attacking inf not. You rarely listen. We'll get together for
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  it too. You try to attack me, I'm trying to help you because
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  he did I attack you. I think I was just I thought it was
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  big chunk of news was the official press conference Thursday, eleven am Eastern.
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  You think Coach Devrees like when he was in that plane flying in from Iowa
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  the other day, like took his watch and just slowly took the took the
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  little thing on that and just moved it back an hour and said this is
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  home for me. Now, I'm an Eastern time zone guy. It's interesting.
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  He'll push it headed forward. Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, bad,
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  my bag. This is will be an adjustment. Been a Central time
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  zone guy. His whole life been cheating on that ten o'clock game, hasn't
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  he been? Yeah? Yeah, now he's going to welcome to Welcome East
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  Coast. Which, by the way, twelve forty five am last night,
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  that Iowa State game. Excuse me? What? Twelve forty five am?
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  That's not right in Boston it was being played in the Eastern times and that's
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  a whole nother tangent. You think I'm prickly, I'll get prickly about that.
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  NCAA's got to fix those times. Yeah, good luck, never mind
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  for old people like us. But I'm being serious here. I know it
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  sounds old manish, but how how is a kid, a high school kid,
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  younger guy, how are you supposed to watch the nca tournament because it's
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  nine forty five in Los Angeles, that's what they tell you, great am
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  in New York City. I get you New York's a couple of people live
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  in New York City as well. I'm just saying that's what they're gonna get
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  you, and they're gonna get you. Well, guess what, it's nine
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  forty five in the West. Fix it. You know what, that's even
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  pretty late in the West. Fix it. Yeah, it's off, but
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  any might go so anyway. So uh so coach devrees quickly. I had
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  to move the his he had to move his watch. Anyway, he got
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  here was on time eleven am. Of course he was. And he spoke
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  to media members and uh, we'll move might play a snippet or two here,
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  Harvester. You watched it, listened to it at some point. I
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  tried to but let me don't play that game well because because I was getting
• 21:45
  texts, people think it was our fault. But nevertheless, one thing,
• 21:49
  Jeff Jenks and I were talking about it and he pointed to this. I'll
• 21:52
  tell you what stood out to me. Two things stood out. One was
• 21:56
  and this actually was an interview with with when Baker was how much coach of
• 22:02
  Reese knew about West Virginia. He had done his homework to the point where
• 22:06
  during the interview process, rend breaker was taken aback at how much he knew
• 22:11
  about West Virginia. Which is important because if you want the job, Brad,
• 22:14
  what are you doing? What are you doing? Research? Research?
• 22:17
  And then his comments were this stood up. We will look for young men
• 22:22
  that have talent and intangibles. I'm a firm believer that if you stack talent
• 22:27
  and intangibles and put together a group of men like that in the locker room
• 22:32
  that equates to winning. We'll have a locker room filled with winners. And
• 22:36
  winners aren't necessarily just about scoring baskets. They have a discipline, toughness,
• 22:41
  on selfishness that stands tall in all situations, and we will teach them to
• 22:45
  apply those to all phases of their life. Brad, does that sound like
• 22:48
  a mountaineer spirit type of thing? Does that sound like us? It does?
• 22:52
  So that to me represents a strong cultural link there between what he wants
• 22:57
  to do and what we leave that West Virginia is. So there's that.
• 23:02
  And also just from the higher and from the press conference, you know he's
• 23:04
  two for two. You know you gotta go, you gotta get guys,
• 23:07
  you gotta win games. But it means two for two. I had the
• 23:11
  distinct pleasure of watching the first interaction between Brad and coach Drees two Iowa guys.
• 23:19
  I turned to my left, and there it was. I mean,
• 23:23
  like two old chumps from the cornfields of Iowa. Do you know so and
• 23:29
  so? Yeah, I know so much they were. They were right into
• 23:32
  a giggly's smiling and giggling. Oh yeah, Applington, Parkersburg, you know,
• 23:40
  I mean it was it was like old Home Week for you and I
• 23:42
  watched you boys. What I walked away with with him was as first reported
• 23:48
  on this program, he was going to be a good fit and fans are
• 23:52
  going to like the demeanor part of Darren Devrees and and there's plenty of time
• 23:56
  to digest the ex's nose and we'll get into that and you'll see that.
• 24:00
  But I just thought he came off as he was guys. There isn't a
• 24:03
  lot of showiness. There isn't a lot of pop and circumstance. He's a
• 24:07
  just like a lot of islands and just like a lot of West Virginians.
• 24:10
  I've said many times in all seriousness, I think there's a lot of similarities
• 24:14
  between the people of both states, and so I think he will be able
• 24:17
  to make that transition very well. He spoke plainly, clearly, articulated what
• 24:22
  he wanted and when you met him, and you were one on one with
• 24:25
  him as I watched other interactions with fans after I got done talking to him.
• 24:29
  That's what you get. That's what he is. He understands basketball,
• 24:30
  he likes basketball, he loves his family, and he's going to really enjoy
• 24:33
  it here. Now you've just got to go put the players in place and
• 24:37
  go win the games. But I think you've got a guy that's a basketball
• 24:41
  coach that really wants to be here, that truly understands the tradition and the
• 24:45
  history of this place and the support that it now has. And I think,
• 24:49
  like we said from the very very beginning, I think you've got a
• 24:52
  really good fit. Yeah. My takeaway what I liked was, and I'll
• 24:56
  say this and then put it into context, he's a no BS guy.
• 25:00
  And sometimes when you say well, he's a no BS guy, that sounds
• 25:04
  like the person is stoic or stern, But it's no. It's when I
• 25:08
  say no BS guy, he's not putting on any fronts. He's not pretending
• 25:12
  to be something. As I said last night on Sports on your probably not
• 25:15
  listening hoppy, not like PJ. Fleck when he got up there and did
• 25:19
  his ro row row row your boat or Kelsey Kelsey at Louisville. You hear
• 25:23
  his thing that he did about he went to heaven and all the houses there
• 25:26
  was a blue house. Where's the red house? With that red house,
• 25:29
  that's where God lives? Okay, fine it was. It didn't have any
• 25:33
  he didn't have any rehearsed bs skits. He's just like, Okay, this
• 25:37
  is what we're going to do. We're gonna get high quality kids. We're
• 25:41
  going to coach the hell out of them. We're gonna be tough, and
• 25:44
  we're gonna win. I get the state. I understand what you need.
• 25:45
  I got it. Yeah, that's what it was. That's all you went.
• 25:48
  What are you giggling about over? What are you toting? But these
• 25:52
  guys that's what they do. You know when Kel's hey, dude, you
• 25:59
  know when Kelsey went up to that microphone, he had his SNL skit all
• 26:03
  line. I'm gonna tell I'm gonna give him the Heaven joke. And the
• 26:06
  red house was gonna be a Louisville house. Ah, God lives there.
• 26:10
  I'll do respect, Pat Kelsey, Jay, stop with this stuff. Just
• 26:15
  stop. That's what I liked. That's that's like and you know what,
• 26:18
  no drama, he got, no drama, he got no bullet he got
• 26:21
  no he didn't come here, coach, He's gonna come in and go today
• 26:23
  in the transfer portal, trying to get guys and that that's a good fit
• 26:26
  here. And that to me reminds me that is that is Neil Brown esque,
• 26:32
  That is that is John b Line esque to me, Yeah, I
• 26:37
  agree with you. I agree with I mean, I don't know what you
• 26:38
  call it. Why did that make you laugh? Slid? But that's what
• 26:42
  these guys get up there. They try to put on like a shows no
• 26:45
  skin, try to they try to like just I don't care, you don't.
• 26:48
  You don't need to win the press conference for me. Go under the
• 26:52
  screen, or go over the screen and get up in someone's face. All
• 26:56
  right. You know one thing, I do want to play this uh from
• 27:00
  the presser because I thought this was interesting. And then we'll kind of lean
• 27:03
  into SKA. Tucker was there in a sling having surgery. Had we're gonna
• 27:10
  get too afore mentioned Tucker to freeze in just to say, okay, I'll
• 27:11
  shut up, gohead hold on, all right, hold on. I was
• 27:15
  worried there. So our number one. I did the same thing, immediately
• 27:19
  stood up in my seat. Excuse me, what's happening over there? I
• 27:22
  think I think this is the cut where he explains defense and transition. So
• 27:29
  let's do this, if we could. Austin the one that says his system
• 27:33
  in the Big twelve runs a minute in thirty two seconds in three two one.
• 27:40
  Yeah. The style of play the Big twelve is obviously a very defensive
• 27:44
  oriented league. It's a very physical league. The Missouri Valley has had a
• 27:49
  lot of that as well. It's just a different, different level of physicality.
• 27:53
  So there's no question that in order to be successful in the in the
• 27:59
  Big twelve, you have to defend. You have to be able to rebound,
• 28:02
  You have to have some physicality to your team has to have some toughness.
• 28:06
  We will recruit to that, we will coach to that, we will
• 28:08
  teach that. And then on the you know, from a philosophy standpoint,
• 28:12
  how do you win games. You have to take care of the ball,
• 28:15
  You have to defensive, rebound, you have to guard those three things that
• 28:18
  they that's just that's winning. And if you can do those three areas well,
• 28:23
  you have a chance to win every single night. So we will try
• 28:26
  to do that offensively. It starts with getting stops, but once we once
• 28:32
  we get the ball. I think when you reach out and you talk to
• 28:33
  people in their league, the thing they fear the most is our transition game,
• 28:37
  and that has to come off of getting defensive stops. And you know,
• 28:41
  it's not something we talk about every day, something we do every day.
• 28:44
  If you come watch us practice, we're going to practice transition. Our
• 28:47
  goal is to store score in the first twelve seconds of every possession, because
• 28:52
  if you can score against a broken defense, it gives your opportunity to score
• 28:57
  a lot better chance. And that's what we're going to right to do.
• 29:00
  It's what will emphasize every single day. You know, teams in this league
• 29:03
  they go offensive rebound, so you have to make them pay for doing that,
• 29:07
  and you have to get bodies on people. You have to be physical,
• 29:10
  and then once you get it, you have to get out and transition
• 29:12
  and run. So that's all of If you put that equation together, that's
• 29:15
  a fun style of basketball. So you rebound, you transit, you throw
• 29:19
  it out and into the outlet in transition, and you try to get down
• 29:22
  the floor as quick as possible and you're going to do what you're going to
• 29:26
  spot people up so high probability from a volume standpoint, well, watching a
• 29:30
  game inside the colisseum, you're going to get a quick boom boom, open
• 29:36
  three boom. So I think there'll be a lot of those. You know,
• 29:38
  Brad, you know what that leads into, don't you, Brad?
• 29:41
  If you do that twice time out right, you come down, you hit
• 29:45
  a couple of those, the crowd's going. The crowds going. So it's
• 29:48
  a fun style. So it's a fun style if obviously you can accomplish that,
• 29:52
  okay, as I often do here. Let's get a little more in
• 29:55
  the weeds there, because this also isn't like watching Alabama that doesn't play defense
• 30:00
  and just runs up and down the floor to score. Teams will figure out
• 30:03
  that's what they want to do. What Devries's teams want to do is get
• 30:07
  out and transition. So it was important what he said right there. There's
• 30:10
  a reason his Drake teams are always top five in defensive rebounding, and he
• 30:15
  was number two this last season nationally in defensive rebounding. One of the things
• 30:19
  that has to happen there, and I'm interested to see how this plays in
• 30:22
  the Big Twelve. He pointed out that teams in this league are really good
• 30:26
  on the offensive glass. And I don't know how many times we came in
• 30:29
  here with our scouting reports and said, okay, this is an elite offensive
• 30:33
  rebounding team Westfordney's playing. There's like four or five of those in the league.
• 30:37
  But one thing that you have to be careful of. If you want
• 30:38
  to crash the glass, what are you doing. You're leaving the other end
• 30:42
  open. So one of the things teams do against Drake teams is they can't
• 30:47
  crash the offensive glasses hard because they've got to get back defensively. So if
• 30:51
  you look at his Drake teams over the last couple of years and there say
• 30:55
  is this spread stats, I've got more on that. So this is what
• 30:57
  you can do a stinger if you want three second one. All right?
• 31:06
  That was really I just blew my ears up. The official Conley CPA portion
• 31:08
  of the program will be coming up here in just a minute. But if
• 31:11
  you look at his Drake team's fast break numbers or percentage of points off the
• 31:15
  fast break over the last two years, you won't you wouldn't have equate that
• 31:18
  just in itself with transition. But that tells me other teams in the valley,
• 31:23
  what do you just say, what do they fear most about us transition?
• 31:26
  So when your scouting report on Drakes, you've said, what, don't
• 31:29
  let him get out in transition, You've got to get back. Well,
• 31:30
  then what's affected by that in offensive rebounding? What is aided by that Drake's
• 31:36
  defensive rebounding because they're not as many people crashing. So there's a bunch of
• 31:38
  different ways to limit somebody's offensive rebounding. This is one way. It won't
• 31:44
  be a team that's running up and down on you, but it's a team
• 31:45
  that, you know what, you don't get back, We're going right by
• 31:48
  you. And then it comes into the three point percentage top forty in the
• 31:51
  country, it comes into two point field goal efficiency top thirty in the country
• 31:56
  for Drake teams. So that all kind of works together in concert there.
• 31:59
  That's what you just said is pick your poison. So you want to go
• 32:04
  crash, you want to go crash the offensive glass, We're going to run
• 32:06
  right down the floor and score on you. You're not going to crush the
• 32:08
  offensive glass. Well, then we're going to beat the hell out of you
• 32:10
  in defensive rebounds, and then be efficient when we get offensively and run five
• 32:15
  out good stuff and we're cutting all over you. So it's it's really again,
• 32:17
  guys, a good basketball coach, and this is a holistic approach to
• 32:22
  the game. It's not where you just are going to do this and be
• 32:25
  elite in this at the expense of everything else. So Brad, it's not
• 32:29
  about just fast breaking and trying to get the lay up. It's just about
• 32:34
  rapid transition to get the open shot before the defense sets up and get it.
• 32:37
  Mark get there, we take it okay, And because the point is
• 32:40
  and he goes on to talk about this and he's right. We talked about
• 32:44
  this about Westernia team last year. One of the ways to avoid playing against
• 32:47
  really good defenses is to what trying to beat them down the floor and get
• 32:52
  some easy shots so they don't set up that really good defense. That's applicable
• 32:54
  to the big twelve where there's so many teams at Houston and Iowa stated as
• 32:58
  examples, if you get into a half court battle with them, they're going
• 33:00
  to choke you out right. That's tough style to beat. So if you
• 33:04
  can get some transition buckets or free throws against those defenses. That helps you
• 33:08
  when you have not as efficient offensive possessions, which is going to happen against
• 33:14
  elite defensive teams. It's really fascinating. And again, I know I like
• 33:16
  to get more in the weeds on the x's and o's than most of you
• 33:19
  listening. I understand that I don't want your eyes to glaze over. But
• 33:22
  if you listen to him, and if you listen to him in the coming
• 33:23
  months on this stuff, it's going to be a really good basketball education.
• 33:27
  So that gets back to him talking about recruiting players to the system almost again
• 33:32
  almost b Line esque as opposed to getting scorers and try to figure it out
• 33:36
  later. Yes, and so that's probably the next wave in this portal is
• 33:39
  it's going to go from we've got all this money and we're throwing around money
• 33:44
  and we're just going to a mass talent to I think schools and teams are
• 33:46
  going to get more targeted and specific on this is what we need, here's
• 33:51
  our budget, this is what we need, and Tucker DeVries is going to
• 33:53
  get this much and now we have this much for a point guard, and
• 33:55
  now we need a four and you better get a four and we need two
• 33:59
  to let's put this money into the two twos. I think it becomes a
• 34:02
  more scientific and holistic approach. Sounds a little bit like a professional model.
• 34:07
  That's what we're headed. Yeah. Yeah, So instead of just the Brinks
• 34:10
  truck, back door is open and money is flying out and whoever wants to
• 34:14
  come behind and get as much as you can and come join us. I
• 34:16
  think now the salary cap structure and management of that salary cap will become more
• 34:22
  important. This is what the left tackle gets paid, this is what the
• 34:23
  quarterback gets builded corner paid. Yeah yeah, and here's what an elite top
• 34:30
  five guy in the transfer portal should get paid. And then you go down
• 34:32
  the list. So I think schools around the country now that they've done it
• 34:36
  for a couple of years, and Tony List. We had Neel in here
• 34:38
  and he talked about that about understanding how the collective and the nil and the
• 34:43
  transfer portal all are going to work in concert. Hence Drew Fabianic comes in
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  two things. One put a final final bow, our second final bow of
• 37:19
  the show on some of these Iowa West Virginia free throw numbers. So going
• 37:22
  back there, I just I want one time, I want to put some
• 37:23
  context to what we all said. And then let's do let's do a little
• 37:28
  analytical number breakdown on West Virginia's first and top portal recruit, Tucker Devrees.
• 37:35
  Yes, we'll do both those real quick. On Iowa and West Virginia.
• 37:38
  Here's some numbers to pay attention to. If you listen to this show,
• 37:40
  you've heard us talk about free throw attempt rate all season. So it's free
• 37:45
  throw attempts divided by field goal attempts, and it gives you a good idea,
• 37:47
  Hopy, not just straight raw numbers of how many times you go to
• 37:51
  line, but how many times you're going to line in comparison to how many
• 37:53
  field goal attempts you get. Right in West Virginia's we know when their number
• 37:57
  got to forty four percent free throw attempt rate or higher, they won their
• 38:01
  games. If it stayed below that, they didn't, so it's an important
• 38:04
  way to score Iowa's season average. The Iowahawkeye season average is thirty one percent,
• 38:10
  so a little bit lower, which would make sense because it was a
• 38:14
  perimeter based team that liked to shoot three so that would make some sense.
• 38:16
  Thirty one percent on the year. In the game against West Virginia, Hopey,
• 38:22
  it was sixty four percent. Wow. So it didn't just take an
• 38:24
  increase, which you would expect was style of play. It took a massive
• 38:28
  jump at more than doubled. It was only the second time all season Iowa
• 38:31
  had a free throw attempt rate greater than forty nine percent, and it blew
• 38:36
  past forty nine. Blue passed that it wasn't even close, so a real
• 38:38
  statistical outlier when it came to the Iowahawkeyes. On the other side, West
• 38:43
  Virginia's free throw attempt rate thirty three percent on the season, same thing,
• 38:47
  a team that liked to shoot three pointers did get to the basket, but
• 38:51
  a lot of times in transition, So thirty three percent on the season eight
• 38:54
  percent versus Iowa eight percent. That was a season low for West Virginia,
• 39:00
  so you had a season high for Iowa, a season low for West Virginia.
• 39:05
  There were only two games all season where the Mountaineers had less than a
• 39:07
  ten percent free throw attempt rate. Okay, I put a couple of those
• 39:10
  numbers out on Twitter, and of course the Iowa fans found me and wanted
• 39:14
  to jump on me. And one of the things they kept saying was the
• 39:16
  reason those numbers are what they are. We had a lot of people doing
• 39:19
  commonly CPA spreads on stats and they were telling me that the reason those numbers
• 39:23
  reflected the disparity was because of this hoppy. They said, well, West
• 39:28
  Virginia, it was just standing around shoot three pointers. Well that's not exactly.
• 39:30
  Iowa went to the basket, and if you go to the basket,
• 39:32
  you're going to get foled more. If you stand around and just shoot threes,
• 39:36
  then you're not going to get the calls. And that was their collective
• 39:38
  case. Back to me, I would just say, this may surprise you
• 39:43
  boys to know that or West Virginia had more shot attempts at the rim than
• 39:46
  Iowa did. May surprise you to know West Virginia had more shot attempts in
• 39:52
  the paint hoppy than Iowa did. So I'm not sure that was accurate.
• 39:57
  Now we kind of shut that down. West Virginia's defensive style. That's how
• 40:01
  they play. They foul a lot was another common refrain, Brad, is
• 40:07
  that perception or reality? Now? I'll say this, that was the third
• 40:12
  highest opponent free throw rate attempt all season. So West Virginia played the way
• 40:16
  it played all season. And there were only two other games that had a
• 40:20
  higher opponent free throw attempt rate than that Iowa game. Did That'd be against
• 40:24
  k State or Iowa State? Nope, it was against Charlotte and UCF.
• 40:30
  West Virginia won both of those games easily. So that isn't the way westfrooit.
• 40:34
  It is the way West Virginia played. The way the game was called
• 40:37
  was not how the game was called all season. I think that's the point.
• 40:40
  Now, listen, there's variance in the NCA tournament. We have talked
• 40:44
  about this on different sides of this fence for decades. When it was John
• 40:49
  Beline, we would say, Tony, what We'd go into the NCA tournament
• 40:52
  and go, oh, thank god, we're getting away from big East officials
• 40:53
  that let people just kill West Virginia's cutters in the lane. Now we'll get
• 40:58
  some officials that will call those and a lot of times they did. Guys,
• 41:00
  They've NCAA officiating benefited West Virginia a lot. In John Blans days when
• 41:05
  Huggs was the coach, we said, what don't call anything, don't look
• 41:07
  done. That's not a foul unless there's a warrant. You can hip check
• 41:10
  the guy in the lane, you can knock him straight down, that's not
• 41:13
  a foul. So we've been on both sides of the officiating style difference.
• 41:15
  That's my final point on this. The officiating style was not necessarily what West
• 41:21
  Virginia's defense had faced all year. A fair point. The defense rests well
• 41:25
  done on that, Yeah, well done. So last night on the lower
• 41:29
  third on the ESPN kept flashing Tucker Davrees commits to signs with West Virginia and
• 41:37
  he will join them out in your program. Well at least one service had
• 41:40
  him out there as the number one available player in the transfer portal. So
• 41:45
  it's a massive pickup. You know, it kind of gets be honest with
• 41:47
  you, it gets kind of lost. It would be the story if it
• 41:51
  weren't you hired a new coach. Darren Dvrees was not the coach and you
• 41:54
  had just signed Tucker Devrees, we would have led the show with it.
• 41:58
  Oh absolutely, Jesse edwardses like we did last year. Jess direct the one
• 42:01
  of the top two available transfers. That was a massive story. That's where
• 42:05
  Tucker sits as of today. Okay, so you're gonna do more, You're
• 42:07
  gonna do you break down on him a little bit. What did West Virginia
• 42:09
  just get? Yeah, you want to talk a little bit about him.
• 42:12
  Very nice kid, by the way, I spoke with spoke with him on
• 42:14
  a couple of occasions. Just very very nice. Let's start though, Hoppy
• 42:16
  mentioned it there. Let's do the recap though, because he came walking out
• 42:20
  of the tunnel, it was a little bit of a surprise to see him
• 42:22
  live. His arm was in the sling. Had surgery in New York this
• 42:27
  week on Tuesday to repair something in his shoulder and went extremely well. But
• 42:35
  like his dad said, like you ever see a surgeon come on and go,
• 42:37
  Eh, didn't quite get what we needed to get. So Doc said,
• 42:40
  it went well, shooting shooting, so shoulder. I'm trying to think
• 42:45
  where was it? H I don't know. Yeah, I think I believe
• 42:50
  it was his right shoulder, wasn't it. Yeah, So he had had
• 42:52
  previous surgery on his labrum. He had had a labram repaired earlier, so
• 42:55
  this is something that they needed to get done. So it'll be a while.
• 43:00
  He'll be ready to go for the start of the season and off you
• 43:04
  go. So anyway, long story short, he's going to be just fine.
• 43:07
  And senator has gone in and said, okay, break him down.
• 43:13
  This is a dude scored a lot of points. Heard last night on the
• 43:16
  broadcast the Illinois game, Terrence Shannon, who is a tremendous offensive talent,
• 43:22
  led the country in scoring. Right, what was he twenty four point nine
• 43:25
  something like that on the air defrees twenty four point three. Sits in the
• 43:30
  top one percent of all scores per forty minutes. So this isn't necessarily a
• 43:34
  per game, per forty minutes, per forty minutes. So everything I say
• 43:36
  hockey is per forty minutes. You don't necessarily play forty minutes per game.
• 43:39
  Okay, so balance that out. But an elite scorer, he can shoot
• 43:44
  it from two, he's comfortable to really good in the mid range game,
• 43:47
  but can step out from three and bang that as well. A thirty six
• 43:51
  percent three point shooter. If you start to go across the hop I know
• 43:54
  you can't see it exactly, but if you start to look at this,
• 43:57
  green is good. Red is not so good. You look across his numbers,
• 44:00
  it's almost all green. And it's a guy that has done a lot
• 44:04
  for Drake points. Shooting assists, he's right neck and neck with the assist
• 44:08
  leaders on that team. Offensive rebounds, he can get those. Defensive rebound
• 44:13
  he's one of the best in the country per forty minutes. He steals.
• 44:15
  He can get a block now and then draws fouls. So this is a
• 44:20
  this is a talented player. Guys, two time Missouri Valley Conference Player of
• 44:22
  the Year. He does a little bit of everything. You start to look
• 44:27
  and go down some of his shooting spots. You know how we like to
• 44:29
  do that ton We like to go into where is he like his zones where
• 44:31
  he likes it. Say, I'm gonna make a guess, Okay, everywhere
• 44:35
  top of the three point circle very good, he likes it. So that's
• 44:38
  his top area of percentage of shots taken are at the very top of the
• 44:44
  key twenty percent. But his most effective spot is over on that left wing
• 44:49
  a near forty four percent shooter from three from the left wing. And he's
• 44:52
  a guy. Hop, I wants you to see this too. He works
• 44:55
  in a diagonal. Look at this, so if you go left wing three
• 45:00
  and run diagonally through the lane, he steps into the mid range and can
• 45:04
  shoot it. He steps into the lane on that left hand side, he
• 45:07
  can shoot it. He steps onto the right block, he can shoot it
• 45:09
  from there. So it's a guy. He really just goes all over and
• 45:12
  if he watch Drake at all, he can handle right. He's the focal
• 45:15
  point of that offense. That's not just a guy they have to run off
• 45:19
  picks to get the ball. It's not just a guy that posts up.
• 45:22
  He is. He is all over the floor. So I got I gotta
• 45:23
  play, I gotta play. I'm gonna suggest this to the coach. I
• 45:27
  want to suggest boy is, get out and get the defensive rebound, get
• 45:31
  out and transition. And it looks like you're driving to the basket. The
• 45:37
  defense is not set up yet, and you kick it out to Tucker DeVries
• 45:40
  in the left corner, Brad, and he shoots what he saying about right
• 45:44
  corner, oh, right corner. Yeah, he doesn't shoot from the cornerhold,
• 45:46
  can you post him up on? Get him on the wing? Okay?
• 45:49
  So you want him in transition down so he said he shot from the
• 45:52
  corner effectively wing wing, left wing okay, and then you get him on
• 45:55
  the left side and transition, get him down the floor and there. So
• 45:59
  you want to drive in a kick, I want to drive a kick.
• 46:00
  Driving a kick? What you think? Pretty revolutionary concept right there, you'll
• 46:05
  get some driving kick. I think that play will be I think coach Freeze
• 46:08
  will like that. Advice from you, that's a good one is bring the
• 46:12
  big guy out to the high post. Yeah, and then he passes the
• 46:15
  ball. But then the guy rolls and goes to the bands. You like
• 46:17
  that to We want to open up the lane there for some cutters. Okay,
• 46:21
  you're just talking about Kerchival's on it. Who invented the pick and roll?
• 46:24
  And I hope they're making money off of it because everybody runs the pick
• 46:27
  and roll all the time. Yeah, very popular now, very popular.
• 46:30
  Get the two man game and then and then you have a guy off on
• 46:31
  the wing, him off the off that yeah. So so point being you're
• 46:36
  getting you're getting a really talented player here in Tucker to freeze and guys.
• 46:39
  I think maybe even if you can say more so than the on court,
• 46:44
  which is going to be invaluable for a kid with his talent or a guy
• 46:46
  with his talent, being able to start your culture and establish your culture and
• 46:52
  establish your locker room with your son, who's also probably your best player Antony.
• 46:57
  As we said last time on the sports Line, if Tucker ends up
• 46:59
  not being your best player, that's really good. Good problem, that's really
• 47:01
  good. That means you went out and got a couple of some dudes.
• 47:05
  But being able to start and establish your culture with a guy that intimately gets
• 47:08
  it, that's probably invaluable as well. Do you think he's an NBA guy.
• 47:13
  I'll say this, the NBA is looking at him. Okay, yeah,
• 47:15
  the NBA is. He's absolutely on the NBA radar. It's a guy,
• 47:19
  there's a top sixty recruit. So this isn't necessarily a guy that's just
• 47:22
  been putting up numbers against a level that is not suitable for him. He
• 47:27
  could have been somewhere else. He could have been playing in the Big twelve
• 47:29
  already. Now what you need to see is how this game translates out.
• 47:31
  He's going to face bigger, more athletic guys more consistently than he ever has.
• 47:36
  So I think that's part of the attraction of West Virginia for both him
• 47:39
  and Darren. Right, Okay, I think I'm one of the best in
• 47:43
  the world. Let me see how that translates up. You know who he's
• 47:45
  really similar to? Guys? It's not where did Darren spend a lot of
• 47:50
  time Creyton, and one of those mentors at Creighton was Greg McDermott. Greg
• 47:55
  McDermott's son was, of course, Doug, multi time player of the UNCO
• 48:00
  turned into an NBA guy, a really good player that learned how to adapt
• 48:04
  his game from playing at Creighton up to an NBA level and having success.
• 48:08
  So there's some really interesting parallels there. Korver, Kyle Korver was a Creighton
• 48:14
  guy. Yeah, Nate Funk, Nate Fund, Nate Funk, Nate funkra
• 48:16
  but the McDermott dad son dynamic. Darren has seen this. Know. Also,
• 48:21
  if you're averaging twenty three, you're not getting forty and none. I
• 48:23
  mean, you're probably getting somewhere in the eighteen to twenty six range, right,
• 48:28
  I mean right, most games? Correct? Okay, So that to
• 48:31
  me is a big advantage too, if you can sustain that or something like
• 48:35
  that. Because what did West Virginia struggle with this year too, is that
• 48:37
  who was gonna get twenty Who was gonna get twenty four? You know,
• 48:40
  maybe this guy, maybe not that guy. So consistency was a problem for
• 48:44
  the Mountaineers this year. Who can you count on night at night after night?
• 48:47
  You want to hear some of his point totals hoppy. Yeah, So
• 48:52
  I'll just give you this once once the entire season he didn't finish with double
• 48:59
  figures. It's yeah, it's so I just go like, let's just go
• 49:01
  back. I'm gonna go to a month from January to the rest of the
• 49:07
  season. So this is all league thirteen, twenty nine, thirty four,
• 49:10
  twenty five, eleven, eighteen, thirty nine, twenty nine, thirty four.
• 49:15
  Okay, lined up, got the Sulukis at SIU for thirty four,
• 49:20
  twenty five, eleven, eighteen, twenty nine, seventeen, twenty six,
• 49:22
  twenty seven, twenty two, seventeen, twenty two, twenty one, twenty
• 49:25
  eight, thirty nine. That might have been the game. So that's the
• 49:30
  game that Gansey watched him playing like Gansey went to scout him at ui C
• 49:34
  Illinois Illinois Chicago. You get, you get thirty nine. I don't care
• 49:37
  who you're playing, you get thirty nine. Yeah, hit seven three,
• 49:40
  twenty nine, nineteen, seventeen, twenty seven, fourteen. So yeah,
• 49:44
  he's gonna be He will score over two thousand points this season. He's got
• 49:47
  eighteen hundred points already. That is a ton and that's in four years,
• 49:52
  not like some of these guys have been here now because of COVID six red
• 49:55
  shirts in their ninth year. That's a ton of point. But as Brad
• 49:59
  said, it's gonna be the defense. It's gonna be tough for competition.
• 50:01
  Yeah, so that's why that's a that's a wonderful starting point in first piece.
• 50:06
  And as coach Devrez knows very well, you're gonna need more guys.
• 50:09
  I mean, you're gonna have to have multiple guys that are gonna come up
• 50:12
  because your scouting report begins with, Okay, stop this guy, he's six
• 50:15
  seven and can do it. Guess what we have on our team. We
• 50:17
  have the two six to nine guys and a six to seven guy that are
• 50:20
  athletic and can guard wing. So let's go so you're gonna have to have
• 50:22
  some help for him. So don't expect, don't expect twenty five points a
• 50:28
  game out of Tucker de Frieze. That's an unrealistic expectation coming into this league.
• 50:31
  But you did get an outstanding basketball player. You get fifteen to sixteen.
• 50:37
  Probably get fifteen to take that right now. Yeah, probably fifteen sixty.
• 50:42
  Thank you very much, Brad. Well done. That does that shutting
• 50:45
  the curtain on Conley's CPA from the season. That might that'll be it for
• 50:49
  the season. That might well bring Okay, thank you very much, Conley
• 50:52
  CPA group. No more games, No more numbers, Well, baseball might
• 50:58
  be some numbers there. I don't think the software that he has, he's
• 51:01
  necessarily baseball. Interesting conversation on the court last night yesterday afternoon besides in there
• 51:12
  rubbing elbows with coach Devrees, he and coach Kellogg. Yeah we're in there
• 51:17
  and they were talking analytics and coach Kellogg uh bit incredulous over the over the
• 51:25
  numbers that Brad has and he gave him this one. Where are you getting
• 51:30
  that stuff? Because I listen and you're like banging game plans like perfectly,
• 51:37
  and you know, what our boy what Mister Prickley said, what, I
• 51:40
  ain't telling you? But then he did. But then you told him.
• 51:45
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  got going there? Hey, real quick, one last thing that's before we
• 53:02
  leave the analytics side. Hop for this. You know, in all seriousness,
• 53:07
  the point of all those numbers, you know, when we do the
• 53:08
  scouting reports, that's in essence what we do on this shows. It's not
• 53:13
  as deep as you go, but that's what football teams are doing with the
• 53:16
  analyst role, right, That's part of it. That's why those analytics are
• 53:20
  becoming so popular, is because you can look at the numbers and give your
• 53:23
  coaching staff a great start in what to look at. Then it becomes you've
• 53:29
  got to watch the film and you've got to see what they do, and
• 53:30
  you've got to know what your kids can do versus them. And there's a
• 53:32
  lot of dynamics that go into it. But the part of analytics bucket that's
• 53:37
  getting so big is that stuff right there. Sure, and basketball staffs will
• 53:39
  continue to grow their analytics department because you can work ahead and have a scouting
• 53:45
  report that's really good. Don't cover it all, but you can get a
• 53:47
  long way to what the scouting report is on the opponent just by studying those
• 53:52
  numbers and what the team looks to do. So that's why it's becoming popular,
• 53:54
  not just for us for the entertainment. We have fun with it,
• 53:58
  but that's why programs and schools are starting to take it so much more seriously.
• 54:01
  After the Iowa West Virginia women's game, everyone needed a little little healing.
• 54:07
  Just some healing, Hoppy, that's what it's all about. Just get
• 54:10
  some healing. We got a heal. Gotta let that let that scar heal
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• 54:44
  perfectly done, by the way. Yeah, okay, we'll get into
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  that. So three guys before the game, Episode eight hundred dot com,
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  let's get off. No, no, I wanna show him something in a
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  second. It's gonna be nice for you. Hoppy brought Brad and I treats
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  you can get these, you get the egos, and he wrote down in
• 55:02
  a magic marker it says on there too, from says too Tony. From
• 55:07
  E Bunny God by the name of E Bunny, letch over to Joy that
• 55:13
  thank you very much, Thank you do appreciate that. So here we go
• 55:16
  from the text line Monroe County. I mentioned Monroe County last time. Yeah,
• 55:22
  beautiful Texas, says Monroe County, beautiful and unspoiled. They actually used
• 55:25
  to have a stop lighting union took it out. The electric bill was too
• 55:30
  high. County never grew after the Civil War. No colt reminds me of
• 55:34
  the Shenandoah Valley without the congestion of I eighty one sendew Valley reference. Sure
• 55:38
  Texter just finished episode five four to one. Great content is always great insight
• 55:44
  into Darren Devrez's style in the women's Game. But the best part came when
• 55:47
  Tony was endorsing gomart and said you could take your fly rod slim gym out
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  to the creek, not creek like those city slickers say, but the crick
• 55:57
  Thanks for all you do. Jim from Preston County. Jim was a great
• 56:00
  guy. He sent us a hell of a package. You remember that.
• 56:01
  It was a hell of a package. Hell of a package, Texter.
• 56:07
  Okay, it's a Glenn from Scott Depot. I'm fifty years of age and
• 56:10
  I've never heard tighter than Dick's hat band since my childhood. Ask copy where
• 56:15
  that came from. My mother. She used to say that. Yeah,
• 56:19
  I loved that. I didn't even catch that you said that, tighter than
• 56:22
  Dick's hat band. My mother had a lot of those kind of sayings,
• 56:25
  you know, and half of you didn't know what they meant, but they
• 56:30
  would apply in certain circumstances. You know, as you say it, if
• 56:32
  you can get over the dog, you can get over the tail. Stuff
• 56:36
  like that. Yeah, like hotter than a sweat band and a firefighter's helmet.
• 56:39
  That's one too. That Hoppy Hoppy got us the men's soccer coach.
• 56:46
  Brad got us the men's basketball coach from Iowa Tony. You're on deck in
• 56:51
  Richie County. Mark Hoppy did get us a soccer I can't take credit for
• 56:55
  Darren. Yeah, text only that the Iowa thing. Tho's been just fun
• 57:00
  right up here, ally excited for the Darren Devrees era to begin. He's
• 57:04
  a good addition to be. He's a good guy in addition to being a
• 57:07
  great coach. His wife's parents attend our church. Oh here we go.
• 57:09
  So I've been following the search and trying to keep it low key with them.
• 57:14
  It'll be fun to have some more WV fans around here in Iowa.
• 57:17
  And I agree with your assessment, Brad. I think it is a good
• 57:20
  fit with similarities between West Virginians and Iowan's. By the way, Tucker is
• 57:25
  his grandmother's maid name. Just a bit of trivia. Oh good to know,
• 57:29
  good one. So it's here. So I asked him D A R
• 57:34
  I A N to the dad, why is it Darren and not Darien?
• 57:37
  And he said it is Darren, but it's spelled the way that it is
• 57:40
  because there was another Darren Devrees near them and his mom didn't want to get
• 57:45
  their mail confused. That is also Iowa. True story. Got a rural
• 57:52
  free delivery over here, and yeah, went's the wrong, plays Texter.
• 57:57
  That was from Evan and Iowa. By the way, Texter, it'd be
• 58:00
  interesting to hear y'all's insight and talk about how this coaches search was conducted compared
• 58:07
  to other searches you've seen. How does Ren's process requirements, inner circle data
• 58:13
  blocking, plane traffic websites and so on, compared or differ to how previous
• 58:21
  ads ran their searches. It might be so too soon to get into it,
• 58:24
  but maybe during the summer series it would be interesting behind the scenes and
• 58:29
  how things really work. I said this earlier this week, and I don't
• 58:31
  know where, whether it was he sports line or whatever. It's not even
• 58:37
  close. This was the most comprehensive search for a coach in West Virginia athletics
• 58:43
  history, bar none, because technology has now allowed you to do it.
• 58:50
  I mean in the old days, I think it truly did begin Brad with
• 58:52
  a guy that had like a list and like, how do you get a
• 58:55
  hold of this guy? How do you get this thing? Was an excess
• 59:00
  spreadsheet that was voluminous columns and it had all kinds of data information. It
• 59:09
  was really, really thick, and it was as comprehensive as you could see.
• 59:15
  Yeah, it absolutely was. It would be neat to kind of get
• 59:19
  the get really deeply inside, but it was spreadsheet ish right, Oh it
• 59:24
  was, I mean it was, it was. And I think I said
• 59:27
  in on the last show or somewhere that Gordon Gee and he kept Gordon Gee
• 59:30
  in the loop and Gee said that he and he's no slouch when it comes
• 59:34
  to intellect. I said, I didn't understand it, you know I did.
• 59:37
  So it's like everything else, And it's just like the analytics we talked
• 59:42
  about. So in the old days, that list the reason I always refer
• 59:45
  to the list in your top drawer. I mean that's a real thing.
• 59:46
  My guy Lou back in the nineties as as one of the elite athletic directors
• 59:50
  in the country, literally had a list in his drawer. I mean I've
• 59:52
  seen the list, right. It was a sticky note with your names on
• 59:55
  it and you'd cross out, then you'd add them. When you crossed out
• 59:58
  too many, you go get a new sticky note, start writing your next
• 1:00:00
  five names for different sports. There weren't analytics. Quite frankly, there wasn't
• 1:00:05
  even really computers to work on that. Now that's advanced on, just like
• 1:00:08
  I'm able to give you good scottering reports because I've got access to those analytic
• 1:00:12
  databases. Now you can go in and into your spreadsheets and it's the same
• 1:00:15
  thing. It's just advanced a little further on. Here's the other thing that
• 1:00:19
  benefited Wren and WVU. The guy that they wanted most was also very interested
• 1:00:24
  in them more than other schools at the beginning. So right from the beginning,
• 1:00:29
  you have two that are in concert and we like each other. Now
• 1:00:32
  let's get this thing to work and make sure we aren't out the details and
• 1:00:36
  we really like each other. Sometimes in searches, the first person you want
• 1:00:40
  isn't their first choice, and then things start to go sideways. This was
• 1:00:45
  very This worked out well that Ren had identified who he wanted and that person
• 1:00:51
  also reciprocated and you could get to the finish line a lot more smoothly.
• 1:00:53
  And you're not always that fortunate. He was extremely aggressive. I mean he
• 1:00:58
  was out and he was out early. He was doing face to face before
• 1:01:00
  others were doing face to face and as a result, I mean you saw
• 1:01:04
  Oklahoma State kind of stumbled along because they got slower start. Yeah, he
• 1:01:07
  was agress ahead, he attacked. He felt like in time matters, he
• 1:01:13
  felt like he was several days ahead of others. And you think, well,
• 1:01:17
  it's a big that's a big deal at that critical time. Steve from
• 1:01:22
  Saint Mary's. I'm headed to College Station, Texas with my team of industrial
• 1:01:25
  firefighters last week landed at Chicago's Midway, connecting to Houston. Who do I
• 1:01:31
  run into but a nice bunch of young men, all dressed in gold and
• 1:01:35
  blue, heading to Oklahoma, where we took two out of three. Great
• 1:01:39
  bunch of young men. I talked to many of them, including the old
• 1:01:42
  skipper with whom I had a picture taken by Reed Chumley. What a great
• 1:01:46
  bunch of young men everywhere you go West Virginia connection. So he runs into
• 1:01:49
  the Mountaineer baseball team. They line up taking two out of three from first
• 1:01:53
  place Oklahoma. Now they got the cowboys of Oaks State here this weekend.
• 1:01:58
  We wish them the best and Chumley obviously being a great photographer. In addition
• 1:02:04
  to ripping the cover off the ball, Brian from Ripley uh in game text
• 1:02:13
  complaining about the officiating, thank you uh. And by the way, I
• 1:02:20
  already didn't didn't put there there. There was one hundred text ripping the officials.
• 1:02:24
  We covered that enough. In the words of John Bline after Louisville.
• 1:02:31
  Our players were winners tonight in every way but the score. Kudos to Kellogg,
• 1:02:36
  the entire team. What a game would a season? Absolutely nothing wrong
• 1:02:37
  with the status and the trajectory of this program. Hey, three guys Josh
• 1:02:43
  in the Twin Cities, so that westover in Morgantown. Tough way for the
• 1:02:47
  women's team to end the season. Which to get the benefit of the whistle
• 1:02:52
  Texter, you mentioned Derees being on the Creighton staff. And five the block
• 1:02:57
  shot at the end, which I think was by Sally. Then the hockey
• 1:03:00
  assist from Pittsnaggle to Gansey to Sally for the dunk a classic moment. The
• 1:03:05
  ball never touched the floor. It was a great game, only to be
• 1:03:07
  outdone by the round two victory over the Wake Forests. Then is now a
• 1:03:13
  great time to be a mountaineer. Yeah, that play that you're talking about
• 1:03:16
  doesn't get talked about enough, but that's called John Beelin had that they call
• 1:03:21
  that perfection. Ball never touches the ground. It looks devies. Still a
• 1:03:23
  little salty about that loss. He is thought he thought he got screwed on
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  some calls. Stunner. So two reasons. One he'll fit in very well.
• 1:03:34
  Thanks. He got screwed by the officials, and two nearly twenty years
• 1:03:37
  later, it still bums him out about the loss. Yeah, right with
• 1:03:39
  Mountaineers. Well, now we are along that line. We were sitting there
• 1:03:44
  yesterday before the press conference started. You're just making small talk, just kind
• 1:03:49
  of killing time, and we started talking about officials. Now we all have
• 1:03:52
  our officials that we know and like, so we just started going, like
• 1:03:54
  do it names. We just started throwing names, and like you could just
• 1:03:58
  like Andy, give you I'm good with him. No, I'm good with
• 1:04:02
  him, and then you go. All all I say to him is good
• 1:04:06
  call, good call. So it's already done. And they see a ton
• 1:04:13
  of the officials that we see in the Missouri Valley, so it's not going
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  to be starting from scratch. They were Midwest guys. Whether it's in that
• 1:04:19
  same that that region of Big Twelve Missouri Valley kind of share the same Curtis
• 1:04:25
  Shaw is involved, who supervises for the Big Twelve, and he's involved in
• 1:04:29
  that league. In some good Texter question for Hopster, this is you Okay,
• 1:04:36
  during the last episode, you alluded to Darren Devrees ignoring and or specifically
• 1:04:43
  not actioning on interest from other schools and committing to us in a sort of
• 1:04:46
  way. Was this conjecture or something you can confirm. I like the idea
• 1:04:50
  that the new coach felt passionate enough about the opportunity was not entertaining others.
• 1:04:55
  James in South Carolina. I got the impression in my reporting, I got
• 1:04:59
  the impression that, as I think brad or you said earlier, that he
• 1:05:05
  was at the top of ren Baker's list, and when there was interest expressed
• 1:05:12
  by WVU, that WVU was at the top of devrees list. So it
• 1:05:17
  was a matter of them heading in with the same trajectory. Okay, So
• 1:05:26
  ren Baker was still talking to other people, talking to other potentials, and
• 1:05:30
  there were still other schools that were going after a divrees, but it was
• 1:05:35
  just again a trajectory that resulted in the Highers. That makes sense. Yeah,
• 1:05:42
  that's that's how I see it. I mean, I don't know if
• 1:05:44
  he just completely stiff farmed everybody, but but the Direse was number one on
• 1:05:48
  West Virginia's list, and West Virginia was number one on Devire's list. Josh
• 1:05:54
  from Audres State Park. This is a Ren Baker appreciation text. I don't
• 1:06:00
  know a lot about ads. Safe to say this has not been a normal
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  first year for one year ago women's coach leaves, the men's team goes through
• 1:06:08
  what they went through. Football staff was being evaluated, Volleyball needed a new
• 1:06:14
  coach, Nil picked up big time. Reren Baker's made a good decision on
• 1:06:18
  Hire's evaluations. Raise money, stable, presence, fun, personality, pivotal
• 1:06:23
  higher. Yeah, he's at a year Gary out of Tyler Texas rights.
• 1:06:29
  I'm so proud of the ladies how they played against Iowa. Really, the
• 1:06:32
  entire season pure joy to watch. I think the JJ Couinnerley sent it best.
• 1:06:36
  In the postgame press conference, she was asked, what's it going to
• 1:06:40
  be like to go toe to toe with Kaitlin Clark? She said, golden
• 1:06:42
  opportunity, battling with the best in the world, and she and her team
• 1:06:45
  competed the entire forty That's what we did the whole time, and nobody can
• 1:06:49
  take that away from us. Testimony to the statement was being tied in the
• 1:06:54
  final minutes, four starters with four files on the floor, fearlessly banging it
• 1:06:59
  out like Truemount nears as a fan that's all you can ask for. Ladies
• 1:07:02
  delivered with flying colors, Golden Blue, Gary and Tyler Texas Texter long text
• 1:07:13
  alert, but I think it's a good one. Hey, there two maybe
• 1:07:16
  three guys. Longtime listener. My name is Kegan McLain. I'm a songwriter
• 1:07:23
  from Charleston. Last Saturday did a show with Philip and Patrick Bowen at the
• 1:07:29
  Robinson Grand in Clarksburg, which is a gorgeous theater. Phil I had Philip
• 1:07:32
  Bowen on my public affairs program. He's a fun guy, wonderful guy.
• 1:07:38
  Big three guys listener, jaunted guy, Oh, super talented? Got beat
• 1:07:42
  by a dog? Excuse me? Got beat by a dog in that national
• 1:07:45
  competition. America's got talent? Yeah, dog lined up beat him, Dog
• 1:07:48
  lined up beat him. That shows no good anymore. It went to the
• 1:07:51
  dogs. Yeah. While we were hanging in the green room, we obviously
• 1:07:55
  had the yeah, yeah, good go ahead. Ty Sorry. While they
• 1:07:59
  were in the green room before they went on stage last week, they were
• 1:08:01
  watching WVU Princeton and one of the things that came up was how much the
• 1:08:04
  game has changed in terms of physicality and officiating. I know there have been
• 1:08:10
  rule changes. I'm curious what you think the root cause of all that is.
• 1:08:14
  I think it's pretty relevant considering Iowa game. I felt transported back to
• 1:08:18
  Allen Fieldhouse in eighteen yuck. I'm not blaming the reps, I just know
• 1:08:21
  how the game is a divisiated, changed a lot. By the way,
• 1:08:25
  I'm gonna shamelessly plug my new album, Old Flame, which is on all
• 1:08:30
  the streaming services. Deeply influenced by my time growing up here in West Virginia.
• 1:08:33
  I love the podcast Looking Forward to eight hundred very good. What's the
• 1:08:36
  name of that album, old Flame? I believe the album is entitled old
• 1:08:41
  Flame by Kegan McLain and he spells his name k H E G A N
• 1:08:47
  excellent texter. Hey, three guys, I was reading an article about the
• 1:08:50
  contract for Devirees. Perks were interesting. Little surprised episode eight hundred merchandise was
• 1:08:56
  not included. I guess Ren Baker holding that back in case they need to
• 1:09:00
  close the deal. Well, it was memorandum of understanding, it may come
• 1:09:02
  into contract. Yeah. Couldn't be any prouder of the women's team signed by
• 1:09:05
  Phil Hall. No coincidence. This texter says that our new coaches from Iowa
• 1:09:12
  after listening to Monday's episode, quite apparent that Brad made the coaching hire first,
• 1:09:16
  Hopy hires the soccer coach, Brad closes the deal for the basketball program,
• 1:09:19
  and I'm certain Tony will now handpick the next WVU president. Three guys
• 1:09:25
  has cemented his place as the illuminati for all things WVU. We as listeners
• 1:09:29
  are not worthy signed by Steven and eleanor not only unconfirmed about me hiring the
• 1:09:33
  basketball catch and true I'm true supportive of it, but you have joyfully wallowed
• 1:09:44
  in the Iowa connection, which is fine because if you've had a lot of
• 1:09:47
  relevant data, been fun Texter. Hey, three guys, my ass is
• 1:09:50
  pretty chapped over the officiating in the women's game. Did you realize there was
• 1:09:56
  a stretch from the start of the second quarter four seven ago into the third
• 1:09:59
  that Iowa was called one file forty percent of the game? Ps. I
• 1:10:02
  appreciate you letting us know a couple of episodes back that the information that we
• 1:10:06
  heard on the podcast was time sensitive before rolling onto a hot bewitch take for
• 1:10:11
  the next twelve minutes and eighteen seconds. Spoiler alert would have been nice,
• 1:10:16
  so would have so what of a thanks for having us in Iowa City.
• 1:10:20
  I love to show Pete from Penn's very good Pete. But the Bewitch was
• 1:10:25
  not time sent you just go back, you could the time less. The
• 1:10:29
  Bewitched references time. So what so what should we recommend him for a chapped
• 1:10:32
  ass? Like? Is there a cream or what? Do you? What
• 1:10:35
  do you recommend on that hoppy? I mean you're probably dealing with those issues.
• 1:10:40
  That's a little bit to t m I. But I'll just say this.
• 1:10:44
  There's a section in the the drug store. In the drug store that
• 1:10:46
  you can you can go and that addresses that specifically, move move alone.
• 1:10:54
  Hey, we should put some of that on the episode. This is this
• 1:10:57
  is where would be good. Listen, things are popping into your head right
• 1:11:00
  now that should not be said. I'm just telling you he can reserve himself.
• 1:11:04
  You can't. That would go to the next text. You know invariably
• 1:11:11
  that West Virginia is gonna get screwed. We should offer some form of a
• 1:11:16
  creamer elution. This very well could be the last episode. It we're in
• 1:11:20
  a danger zone. Any minute, this could go away because he can't help
• 1:11:25
  himself. Beavius over here is about to onload. Can you go to the
• 1:11:30
  next text. Please, it might be with Tony. Now, way you
• 1:11:33
  do a better job of reserving. He can't. There's another one coming.
• 1:11:38
  He can't help himself right now, there's another one sitting there that he badly
• 1:11:42
  wants to get out. Do you want me to just take the next text?
• 1:11:46
  Do I need to get involved? Because I know what you're doing,
• 1:11:50
  right am I? Right? It's right on the tip of your talk.
• 1:11:54
  You got another one loaded, it's ready to come out. It's going to
• 1:11:57
  be a problem. True, Yes, Jersey Jeff has a text? Can
• 1:12:06
  we get to it? Oh? It was that was my foul? Up
• 1:12:13
  three? Commit a foul right now? Up three? Up three? Not
• 1:12:15
  letting him get a three pointer off and make him go to the line and
• 1:12:17
  earn it. Here there you go. Good, cool, We're going ahead,
• 1:12:19
  Jersey Jeff. Here read it? Hey, folks, has your favorite
• 1:12:24
  basketball team been out called in fouls? Thirty five to two? An inside
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  Allenfieldhouse on episode eight hundred, dot Com has a solution for you. It's
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  I was gonna say eight hundred, not even close. Now we're not getting
• 1:12:47
  a five jersey, Jeff Rights. I hope you guys are well. I'd
• 1:12:54
  like to comment on a recent discussion of sports watching on the television Tony and
• 1:12:59
  Hoppy out of line and borderline hypocritical for attacking Brad and the way he watches
• 1:13:04
  sports. Thank you. For a long time, I've been a proponent of
• 1:13:08
  two screen minimum when watching sports. Today's day and age, it's easy to
• 1:13:12
  get two games on at the same time, assuming there's multiple TVs in one's
• 1:13:15
  possession. TVs are not hard to come by either. Multiple screens easily outdo
• 1:13:21
  the quad box, which was encouraged in the same discussion. I will not
• 1:13:26
  tolerate multiple screen sports viewing slander. I'm with Brad. Thank you, Jeff,
• 1:13:29
  appreciate you. Hey, hey, guys, this is Stephen from the
• 1:13:33
  Waterfront Marriott. Watching our women's team played left me wondering why you don't see
• 1:13:39
  a lot of on ball screens pick and rolls in women's college basketball. Maybe
• 1:13:43
  I'm ignorant since I haven't watched a ton but I'd like to think that JJ
• 1:13:46
  Quinnley and Jordan Here's Gona be perfect point guards to be the ballhander on a
• 1:13:49
  pick and roll. Also, Tony Well, I enjoy all of your impressions,
• 1:13:57
  including my breakfast mate Sean McDonough. My absolute favorite is your impression of
• 1:14:01
  coach Greg Hunter. Yeah, runs a four four fort. He's gonna be
• 1:14:05
  a pretty good player four four four five. Coaches like him a lot.
• 1:14:10
  Do you seem to do your Coach Hunter impression more often? Do you do
• 1:14:13
  it? Beanie ran three nine? No? Not a three nine? Episode
• 1:14:16
  four to two or fourth run? What a Beanie run? Nobody runs at
• 1:14:20
  three nine? No? I saw it? What a being you run?
• 1:14:21
  Being ran a four to three? Yeah, I'll check. By the way
• 1:14:27
  of all you do a lot of great impressions, Hunter is actually your worst.
• 1:14:30
  I got that even close. It's not an impression, it's a character.
• 1:14:34
  It's a caricature. Joan always says that too. Why do you do
• 1:14:39
  that? He doesn't sound like that real quick? On pick and roll?
• 1:14:41
  I don't have my my database with the pick and roll stuff in there,
• 1:14:45
  but Westergy does do that with JJ and Jordan, they do like to run
• 1:14:47
  the pick and roll. What did I say Beanie ran a three nine?
• 1:14:50
  You say three? He ran consis being bishop four three nine. I just
• 1:14:59
  forgot to put the four in front of the three nine. I knew it
• 1:15:00
  was a three nine, three to nine. He'd go to the Olympics.
• 1:15:03
  Four three nine's pretty good. That's right, four three nine is really good.
• 1:15:06
  It was the fastest among any of the folks at the Big twelve.
• 1:15:12
  Keep killing it. You know what, He's gonna get a shot. Oh
• 1:15:15
  sure, we will get shot. Good Tom, Yeah, Tom and Tim
• 1:15:20
  in Fairfield Glade, Tennessee. Before that, I was in Charlestown for seventeen
• 1:15:26
  years. I laughed out loud during episode four hundred. It wasn't four hundred
• 1:15:30
  your last episode when you guys talked about the Atlantic ten basketball turnout when it
• 1:15:34
  was held in Morgantown. My wife likes to say, I don't need any
• 1:15:36
  more T shirts. I should get rid of some of them. I smiled
• 1:15:40
  when I had a reason to wear this classic again. Look at that hoppy
• 1:15:43
  nineteen eighty eight Atlantic ten basketball championship in Morgantown. That's Tim t Walt.
• 1:15:47
  I love that. Thank you, Tim, good too. Yeah, WV
• 1:15:50
  won that, right. I think they did, like I know they did
• 1:15:56
  not. They didn't, They did not not in eighty eight, not in
• 1:15:59
  eighty eight. Okay, another year they wanted, because I have in my
• 1:16:02
  pay my king sitting on the rim. No, that's a lot earlier than
• 1:16:05
  eighty eight. That we got beat early in that and it came down Tom
• 1:16:11
  Penders was a coach at Rhode Island, and I would bet a dollar to
• 1:16:15
  a donut that it was Carlton silk Owens Tom Garrick for Rhode Island. They
• 1:16:19
  won the thing in eighty eight. That would be my guest totally, off
• 1:16:23
  the top of my head. That's pretty good though, if top of your
• 1:16:25
  head, Texter Tony, thank you for letting me get my picture made.
• 1:16:30
  I need to get in front of Hoppy to get the information on him drinking
• 1:16:33
  beers in my dad's basement. There's Chris so Hoppy. That was yesterday afternoon.
• 1:16:38
  We were in the lounge and that guy is Chris Ok. And the
• 1:16:45
  guy in the right that's Wren And if you met him, and that guy
• 1:16:50
  said that his dad and you used to drink beers somewhere in a basement on
• 1:16:57
  campus here and I said, if all it was was beers, it was
• 1:17:00
  a good night. That's what I told them. Well, I'll just say
• 1:17:03
  this in college, drinking beers in the basement apartment that covers a covers a
• 1:17:11
  lot of territory. Texter gentlemen expecting you to cover most of this. Regarding
• 1:17:17
  the refereeing, however, I was appalled at what I observed of Caitlin Clark.
• 1:17:23
  Her behavior is a frequent social media topic. I've seen gestured towards teammates
• 1:17:28
  to blame them for mistakes. Is it true? My question is this is
• 1:17:30
  the criticism warranted? Are we expecting more of her because she's female? Do
• 1:17:35
  men do this? Are we not as critical? I only watch Mountaineer games,
• 1:17:40
  so I'm not as familiar with behavior as I know you all are.
• 1:17:43
  Thank you if you want to go there. Brad and I have a different
• 1:17:46
  approach on now. I just think different perspectives and brand and I talked about
• 1:17:49
  this on my coffee clatch. Is that I didn't. I don't follow it
• 1:17:54
  like he does. Brad watched all the Iowa games. I only saw a
• 1:17:57
  couple, and I I acknowledge how great she is in the contribution she has
• 1:18:03
  made not just to women's basketball, but to basketball and how she has inspired
• 1:18:09
  young girls to get involved in basketball. So I think that's marvelous, and
• 1:18:12
  she's an outstanding player. I was put off by how by her actions in
• 1:18:18
  the game against West Virginia, but I understand that that was a one off
• 1:18:21
  brand. No, it's not one off. I've watched most of Kaitlyn Clark's
• 1:18:25
  basketball games over the last two years. Have a young daughter. It's a
• 1:18:28
  big fan. Loves the Mountaineers and also watches Kaitlyn Clark when the Mountaineers aren't
• 1:18:30
  not can't say enough for how she's propelled women's basketball forward. She has been
• 1:18:35
  a really good role model. She's also an elite competitor, borderline psychotic about
• 1:18:42
  it. I'll Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan and the like. And sometimes your
• 1:18:45
  competitive competitiveness takes over. And there are times when I've been on a field
• 1:18:49
  of court that that happens. Right, I've done that too, We've all
• 1:18:53
  done that. If you've competed, that happens. I think that's more what
• 1:18:56
  you see come out of her in those instances. An elite competitor, and
• 1:18:59
  some time she'll clap back at fans, at teammates, what have you as
• 1:19:03
  Again, somebody with a young daughter. I have no problem with her looking
• 1:19:06
  up to Caitlin Clark. I think she's been a joy to watch over this
• 1:19:09
  time at Iowa, texter last one Mountaineer Nation seems to be the recipient of
• 1:19:13
  a coach who gets us. For me, that's crucial to his success as
• 1:19:15
  his stellar coaching credentials. Never once during yesterday's press conference did he refer to
• 1:19:20
  anything as me, my or I. Every time you refer to anything regarding
• 1:19:25
  the mountaineers, he said, we are us. My hope is that all
• 1:19:28
  mountaineer fans will embrace him with the same inclusivity. And if great success comes
• 1:19:32
  quickly as it did to the women's team in coach Kellogg, that'll be great.
• 1:19:35
  But if not, I hope the quick to criticize, we'll give it
• 1:19:38
  a rest. Good luck Coach Devrees and go Mountaineers. Please, when appropriate,
• 1:19:43
  give an update on coach Eilert's next opportunity. Thank you very much,
• 1:19:46
  appreciate you. Happy Easter. Mjay in Savannah, I have an ilerd update.
• 1:19:53
  Briefly, I had Ritt Baker on my coffee clatch today and I asked
• 1:19:57
  him if he knew anything whether Josh had gotten a job yet or not,
• 1:19:59
  and he's that he wasn't aware. But also that he was going to help
• 1:20:02
  in any way he could of anybody on that staff, and maybe who knows,
• 1:20:06
  maybe a staff member who will be retained by the new coach, you
• 1:20:10
  don't know. And also w is paying for the coaches to go to the
• 1:20:14
  Final four or as you know, a lot of that stuff takes place.
• 1:20:16
  Sure, absolute job fare, absolute job fair. All right, very good.
• 1:20:23
  I never got my Garrett Green stats in, but that's okay. Next
• 1:20:26
  save way. We got a lot of spring football. Now, we've got
• 1:20:29
  a lot of shows before that ball goes in there again. You just hold
• 1:20:31
  on to that little note. Thank you very much for the candy, Hopy,
• 1:20:33
  We certainly do appreciate it. No, it's from E Bunny, so
• 1:20:36
  thank you. Fork. A guy by the name of E Bunny dropped it
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