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Inside The Birds Week 13 Postgame Show: Bears 24, Eagles 15 · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to the Inside the Birds postgame show. I'm
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Jeff Moser. That's Adam Kaplan And maybe you, like us,
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: can't believe it, but for the second straight game we're
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: talking about an Eagle's loss. They lose to the Chicago
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: Bears Black Friday, twenty four to fifteen at the Link
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: and Adam, I think there was a real telltale part
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: of the third quarter if you were watching the game
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: at home. The Eagles had another three and out and
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: Al Michael simply said, and if you want to hear
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: what it sounds like, here you go. And they were
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: both quiet, and all you heard was the cascading of
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: booze at the Link and Adam I didn't think, honestly,
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: we got questions about this going into the year, about
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: if things go bad, to this be like twenty twenty
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: three all over again, and we didn't think it could.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't, but it has that feel at this right now.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: It does. I told people to simmer down a little bit,
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: let's give it some time. I'm with you, guys now,
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: I'm way with a twenty three flave because you know,
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: fans that gloom and doom, they could they could say
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  Speaker 2: it after two weeks. I mean, this is just the
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: way it is and Eagles fandom. But you guys, hey,
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, man, I've thrown the white talent. I'm like, like,
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: this is They're only a game and a half up
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: over Dallas. How's that even possible? And by the way,
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: this is the first game all season that they never
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: led even that Giants terrible game. The second game they
• 1:30
  Speaker 2: actually were up three to nothing. Yeah, not good. Not
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: good yet this has been good.
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a game of a couple of first
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: It's the first time since two thousand and five that
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: a team had multiple one hundred yard rushers against the Eagles.
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: The last team to do it was the Broncos when
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: it was I think Orlandis Gary and Mike Anderson, if
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, both went for over one hundred again
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and five. Right, So, it's been a
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: long time, and we have probably for what ten eleven,
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: twelve weeks now, we've talked about the offense, the offensive line,
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: the issues that the offensive line issues are having on
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: the offense till we're blue in the face. I cannot
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: sit here and give the same kind of defense or
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: excuse about injuries or aching or this about why this
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: defensive line is suddenly Swiss cheese. Wow, can't figure it out,
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: cannot don't know why, but it's not good.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, was Mike Anderson and and Tatum Bell
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  Speaker 2: Tatum Tatum Bell. That's right, yeah, yeah Bell at one
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  Speaker 2: oh seven Mike Anderson had won twenty six on thirty
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  Speaker 2: five Carris combined. All right, all right, So the d
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  Speaker 2: line got gash And here's what happened. They got gash
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: from misdirection. And it was almost and we know Clinhart's
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: a really good coach, that fanju is, but it's it's
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: like they had no answers. And you notice now we don't.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: The Eagles did not list anyone in game with an injury.
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: We'll see what the early injury report has. We'll look
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  Speaker 2: into it. But Carter got subbed a lot o Joemo.
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: He didn't get bench, He just got subbed Byron Young
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: started the second half of Jomo struggled. We knew this
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: at times would be a struggle for him against the run,
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  Speaker 2: despite how many great quality rushes he's had this season.
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  Speaker 2: They got gashed. David sometimes got stood up. He would
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  Speaker 2: made one splash play against the run. They were horrendous misdirection.
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  Speaker 2: They went They ran the wine back play, which is
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  Speaker 2: the which is the old Sean Payton Pierre Thomas one
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: where they it's a toss and he goes right and
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: he cuts left. They got dashed and it's remarkable on misdirection. Also,
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: Kyle Manungai up the middle, what the hell? It was unbelievable.
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't feel like that's four hundred yards. It's crazy.
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, like listen, I expected the Bears to come
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: into this game and be able to have some good
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  Speaker 1: running games because the Bears. I don't know if people
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: have been paying attention to the Bears, but you know,
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: not only are like the nine to three and now
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  Speaker 1: the number two seed in the NFC playoffs if the
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: season were to end today, ahead of the Eagles, but
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  Speaker 1: they are the most explosive rushing offense in the league.
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  Speaker 1: And you've seen DeAndre Swift before with the Eagles. If
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: you didn't know who Kyle Manangai from Rutgers was, well,
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: Seimo knew because inside the bars Andrew Deschko did a
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: great job in the off season saying this is a
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: guy to watch. But either way, if you weren't sure,
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: these are two good running backs. So I expected the
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  Speaker 1: Bears to come in on a windy day and try
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  Speaker 1: to hide the quarterback throws because it was tough to
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  Speaker 1: throw the ball and run the ball. But so when
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  Speaker 1: you talk about the elements of run that they design,
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  Speaker 1: you know Ben Johnson with the counters, the misdirection, they use,
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: multiple tight ends, they put them in motion, you know,
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: all the stuff that Eagles never do. I expected that
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  Speaker 1: to have a little bit of success. I did not
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: think against this Eagle's defensive front you were going to
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  Speaker 1: see multiple runs of fifteen, twenty, thirty, and forty yards.
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  Speaker 1: It's one thing when a team does what it does
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  Speaker 1: well to do it, but it's another thing when you
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  Speaker 1: allow that is the biggest letdown, the explosive, explosive runs.
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  Speaker 1: I know the Bears are number one in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: but if you're the Eagles, you have that pride, you're
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: at home, you're trying to, you know, add another win.
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  Speaker 1: You can't let that happen after you did it against
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys just five nights before that. That's inexcusable to me.
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: But Adam, is it a sign that it's not just
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: maybe this defensive front just isn't that good? And nobody
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  Speaker 1: truly tried to test them in the first ten weeks
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: with that kind of a run game.
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  Speaker 2: It was just, you know, it's funny when you say tests,
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  Speaker 2: it's like you try to run, you see if you
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  Speaker 2: have success. Yeah, well, I'm still through the ball thirty
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: six times, which is surprising. Which was the win was bad.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: The win was not make excuse for either quarterback. But
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: you could see the ball sail. I mean, it really selled.
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: And it's funny. You know, I did pick the Bears
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. It almost got the score exactly right. I mean,
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: what was the score twenty.
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was off twenty four nineteen right, twenty four
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  Speaker 1: to fifteen, I'm sorry twenty for fifteen yeah, but.
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: In terms of total points. But I started to buy
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: what the fans were saying recently about the vibes the
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: Dallas game. Terrible choke. I know they're in a show week.
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it helps the club, but it opened some wounds up.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing is you said earlier, you can't count
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  Speaker 2: on a such a bit like the second half. The
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: Cowboys had seven runs of over five yards. I haven't
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: gone through the game book yet. It's they had to
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: easily have twenty characters over five yards. It was just
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: the most embarrassing thing, and that cost them the game.
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: We haven't even got the offense yet. We'll get to that.
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: We've got our own issues with it. You kind of
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: alluded to it about style of play and schematics, but
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: it was they got out coached, clearly both sides of
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: the football. That's not even debatable that they completely got
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: out coached and they got out played. I mean, this
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: is the first effort where you go, oh. They also again,
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: as they said earlier, they never led. But yet what's
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: crazy despite all that, the first half is horrendous. The
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: Bears kept trying to give them the game. I mean,
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: they were only down ten three and the Eagles had
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: the ball to start the second half. They should have
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: been down there. There were a couple places should have been
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: a touchdown. Wonder it woulday where he slipped overall what
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: And it's funny because Amazon, although the game with locally
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: was on Channel twenty nine, was brought us by Amazon.
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: Even in the first quarter, they were showing the fans
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: with the thumbs down and booing. I thought it was comical.
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: They're like all right, well, fans are killing them. Let's
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: show them. You know.
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the big the disappointing thing
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: is you now had you had a list of things
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: to worry about the Eagles, but it wasn't very big.
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: It was really offensive line execution, slash health, and then
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: running game and then third down offense. Defensively, they've been
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: fined for most of the year. They did show some
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: elements in that first Giants game where they lost being
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: leaky against the run. You know, Scataboo had some big runs,
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: but a lot of that was dark also just kind
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: of maneuvering. I never really felt that they were going
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: to be a poor run defense after that game. I
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: thought they got caught off guard. And then clearly after
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: that they had three or four nice run defense games
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: in a row. So now you've taken all the three
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: things on offense you're worried about. You've added now run
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: defense being in concern and turnovers. This is turn the
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: ball over two times for the second straight game. This
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: whole process of the Eagles is We're gonna be dull offensively,
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have a good pass rush, we're gonna be
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: stout and we're not gonna turn the ball over. That's
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: going to allow us to be conservative at times or
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: throw the ball lest Well, now you're turning the ball over.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: Now your tush push isn't even working turning the ball
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  Speaker 1: over on that. So your your list going down the
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: stretch here is getting bigger of issues, not smaller.
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's funny, Well they could feel so great
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: about not having fourteen penalties they cut in a half,
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: but some of them are timely, just really at a
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: bad time. Yes, it was a meltdown. It was a meltdown.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: And in our Patreon halftime chat we let everybody in
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: on this one. It's called Dan had the best point.
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: I know you can't measure on coaching tape, but some lethargy.
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: They just didn't have any energy. They were at home
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: after a bad loss of Dallas. You would think they'd
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: be juiced up. They just they lacked a little bit
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: of energy on offense. But well, let's leave offense to
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: the side. They've got problems on defense now, Jalen Carter,
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: I just I don't have any answer. I don't there's
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: no way to know what's wrong with them. They just
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: the whole line was terrible. Just yeah, hard to believe that.
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: I understand. The Bears are totally revamped, their start, their interior,
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: their offensive lines completely brand new. Two trades and the
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: center Domen came out from Atlanta, but it just it's
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: hard to believe. Mostly it was Gash that the holes
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: were there, but then there were some, there were some
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: where the mistackles. I was because it's funny. As I
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: was charting it, Gash, Gash, Gash, gown, I'm like, wow,
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: I actually had none to do with miss tackles. They
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: were just weren't even in the play. Then the miss
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: tackles started coming up. I was like, wow, now they
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: could check that box off.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: Well that that usually happens in games like this when
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: you start giving up a lot of big runs because
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: you're getting blocked off the ball. Then you feel like
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: you have to to do a better, You have to
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: make a play. So what do you do. You start lunging,
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: you start arm tack you start pressing, and then that
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: leads to the mistackles. This team, there's no schematic adjustment
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: per se. I know people are gonna say, well, you
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: got to get your linebackers going downhill faster like run
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: blitzing great, then you set yourself up to get killed
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: across the middle on play action. You just simply have
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: to be better at the point of attack. I think
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: that the drop off from Milton Williams, who was a
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: very strong point of attack player. So Joe Moo is
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: pretty big. Joema was a long armed, good pass rusher, fast,
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: quick with the lawn. But he's not a power point
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: of attack. But he's not bad. I'm not trying to bad.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: But in the run, yeah, he doesn't have the same
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: power that Milton Williams had. I think that's showing, and
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: I think that's why Vic tried something new to when
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: he got Byron Young on the field a whole lot more.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: I did feel like Jordan Davis was playing high at times,
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: which he tends to.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: There was one bad one. There was one bad one.
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: I always putting it tow a discord crowd because you're
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: watching Amazon. If you if you get the All twenty
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: two angle, I'm like, bad, that was bad. He got
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: stood up like last year. But he look, he's had
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: a good year. Let's call it like, he's had a
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: very good year. But no one could be proud on
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: defense and not just one person. They all were terrible. Now,
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: But but but I say that when you run the
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: ball out, you got to score. And it's not like
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: the Bears absolutely housed them with their passing game. They didn't,
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: and they did bog down a little bit. And the defense,
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: as bad as they were, they actually kept the Eagles
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: at the offense in the game.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're don't you feel to that point. I'm
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: just I'm interrupting to capitalize on this point you because
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: you already mentioned it. There was a drop in the
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: end zone that should have been a touchdown. Yes, it
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: was the second it was the second time they targeted
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: Sydney Brown in the end zone, a red zone end zone,
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: and the second time he got beat and the ball
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: wasn't caught. By the way, that's another thing to look
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: out for when they play the Chargers, because the weather
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: will be nice, Sydney will be out there, and trust me,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: it'll be Aronde gats In, it'll be live mccacky. They
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: will look at this tape and they will absolutely go
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: after Sydney Brown.
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: By the way, and let me have one thing, Greg Roman,
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: as a GM told me a sophisticated a running game
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: he's ever seen and this guy's been in legal long
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: time now. The thing is, you know they've got a
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: lot of time now they have you know, they don't
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: get up. They most likely would do something on Monday.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: But if the practice week doesn't start till oh yeah, wow,
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: the real practice week doesn't start your Thursday. We'll see
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: if there are any change is made coming up here, we'll see.
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• 15:23
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  Speaker 2: So you know what it was weeks fourteen to fifteen
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: they played the Cowpokes where they got blown out. This
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: is when the offense started collapsing. It was really the
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: defense already collapse and the offense started collapsed. The offensive
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: collapse started week thirteen, and then it just steady got worse.
• 15:55
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• 15:57
  Speaker 2: in week sixteen then or whatever, I forget, I don't
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: have the scenario in front of me, but he played,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: and then they got the terrible loss to began, and
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: he came into Philly beat them. No, it was actually
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: week you know that's right, did McKee playing, No, Mariota started,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Hurts did start weeks eighteen where they got blown out
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: at the at the Giants. You play briefly Mariota took over.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: But bottom line is, yeah, folks, I salute you. You guys.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: You know, people like to throw stuff against the wall
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: earlier in the season when they don't like what they see,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: and hey, you know what, you guys are right. The
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: vibes are bad. They're somehow only a game and a
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: half ahead of the Cowboys.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, now this is yes, this is a bad
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: stretch for the butt. They always win crowd or the butt.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: They're eight and two crowd. It's fine because because and
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: we always we always like to say, you know, sometimes
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: our jobs is we're not going to wait for water
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: to be falling from the sky to tell you that
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: it's going to rain, you know, and nobody wants to
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: hear that. But when you see the clouds on the horizon,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: have to discuss them. And it doesn't matter if it's
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: really sunny where you are at that moment, if you
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: know the clouds are coming. So that is the that
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: is the deal for the Eagles right now. They've got
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: to rectify this. They have to do it soon. They
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: have a light schedule after the Chargers game, and the
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Chargers are a little bit bad that they've lost both
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: their offensive tackles. So we'll see with Hampton, right, because
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Hampton might be.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: He might be well, see, yeah, he actually might. He
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: had the left ankle fracture. Yeah, he looked good apparently
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: this week he might and he is explosive, right, kimani
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Vedal's done a nice job. But Hampton has explained it's
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: funny for the people who laughed at Greg and said
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: that he Greg loved Hampton way more Nastion genty And
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I know Chip Kelly was a train wreck for the Raiders.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: But now we're going to see Hampton's been out for
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: most of the season so far. We'll see if they
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: activated for the game. But let's put that to the side.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Let's get to the offensive debacle, which was this game
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Well, well, I guess I would ask you what what
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: new thing about? What can we discuss about the offense's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: issues right now that we haven't pay well.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: He had issues, more penalties on the offensive line. AJ
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Brown had a start or to start to get it
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: was really bad. That's on those guys. The past protection
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: was inconsistent again, as Greg pointed out, Yes, there are
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: plenty of plays in the Cowboys game where he Greg
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: looking at his notes Cosell's notes from the Dallas game,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: but there are too many plays where they gave up pressure. Again,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Patullo get Hurts in a rhythm. He didn't get him
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: to the rhythm. I understand it was windy. We've mentioned
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: that many times. Still can do that easy throws, very
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: simple offense. I know it's not his scheme, but it's siriannies.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: It hasn't changed, and it's it just was bad. I
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: mean they when you really, I know, Aj Brown got
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: hot later late in the game and he had some
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: good place in the first half. He actually had a
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: huge game ten for one, thirty two for two, touchdown,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: great adjustment on the first touchdown, phenomenal adjustment and Hurts,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Hurts saw the guy's back turn. But bottom line is,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: you see here's They had some decent runs in the
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: game from Barkley, but overall, yeah, exactly, there's nothing you
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: could say with this offense. They can do this well.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: They do nothing well in offense. That's the prob nothing.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I'll give you two plays that really jump out to
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: me or sequences. One is the obvious third and eight
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Devonte Smith wide open and then even Dallas got her.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna defer to Greg and you all twenty
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: two and the coach is safe because I don't know
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: if got her was wide open because the ball was
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: already going to a safety. I don't know. But the
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: replay that the show John TV looked like Dallas Goddard
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: could have walked in for a touchdown on that play.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Either way, DeVante Smith was wide open and he didn't
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: hit him either. And when you're struggling and you have
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: that ability, well, no, I would say.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: That the ball to the right side to hurt to Smith,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: which was way late. It looked like it got caught
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: up of the way. And I'm not making excuses. Yes,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: DeVante was what he should have had. It should have
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: got it to you.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: But no, this was on the left side though you're
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: talking about I'm talking about the third and eight where
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: in the zone, high level. Yeah, they ran a high
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: low zone beater and Devonte Smith's wide open and the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: ball got thrown behind him. Now, the win could have
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: been an issue. I'm not saying well, I'm just saying
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: for an offense that was just right there, man, it was.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: It was right there for yeah, self afflicted wounds.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: And then Adam coming out of the halftime, all right,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you're first down, you got the pony package in, so
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I got no issue with that. You're trying some new
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: stuff right right. Herts is throwing the ball. I don't
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: know who's fault of it. I don't care. It's a
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: bad place. But here's the thing.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. He saw Barkley, he was going to
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: go to him. Fine, Barkley's back, He's back, He's not
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: there to he's he didn't turn yet. He threw it
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: early and Barkley didn't see it until late. So yeah,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that well, well I ask Greg, but that that was bad.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: It was just a comedy of rus. That That has
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: been the story with his football team, the timing of
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the comedy of ours. There's just so many self afflicted wounds.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: It's just bad. Brad Man had one really bad punt,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: but you know, I know it was at a sixty
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: three yard which was a boomer earlier in the game.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: The win was win was bad. But overall, listen, they
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: lost the game. They got out coach. This is this
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: is one of the worst coach games and years for
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the Eagles. But and you can't blame one side of football,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: it's just both. It was just it was just bad.
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  Speaker 1: Slash Legal Slash podcasts for full disclosures. Definitely a humiliating loss.
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  Speaker 1: I mean when you get just and your own house
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  Speaker 1: steamroll time and time again in the run game, when
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: you know the run's coming. They line up to put
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  Speaker 1: a couple of guys on scrimmage. They turn around, hand
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  Speaker 1: the ball off and next thing you know, seven, ten, fifteen,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: twenty three. So I mean, that's embarrassing. That's humiliating. And
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: this Eagles team, for all it's accomplished over the last
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: three to five years, has to look at itself in
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the mirror here and say, who do we.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Want to be?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, is this how we're gonna People are gonna
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: remember us as the team that you know, goes to
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Super Bowls and the next year craps all over itself.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: It shouldn't be the case. They do have too much talent,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and I'm just you know, I think you can there's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: nothing but disappointment that everybody should feel about this. I
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: could have understood a loss, but not like this, not
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: like that. Let test your manhood loss? Yeah never, Let right?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: It was bad.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: That just was.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I call it an embarrassing loss. And Herihannity's got to
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: reach his players. There their fault, these lays. I mean
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: it's only two in a row, but the way that
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: they've lost, they blew They blew it significantly. Fourteen accepted
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: penalties last week. Okay, that's bad and the timeliness, the
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: execution terrible. Uh. I'm not gonna say they have a
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: buying issue, but man, you have to ask, what why
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: can these coaches get these players to play at a
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: better level. Because this is the same staff mostly they
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: want a super Bowl with last year. But something's going
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: on here. I can't figure on it. I just can't.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I just can't.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't think you can just
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: take offensive line injuries and say that is a reason
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: for this team's inability to run the ball at all.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: There are other teams that have backup offensive linemen then
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that can run the ball better than the Eagles, So
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. In fact, the Bears have had
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: some backups on their offensive line. They have one of
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the best running games, if not the best, in the NFL.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: There's something that's not right. It doesn't make sense. I
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: agree with you. I think you can put coaching in there.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: You can put regression, all those things. There's got to
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: be more for this team. And what's what's that that's
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: that added in there.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always felt like that's an excuse. But you
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: know what, more coaches around the league I talked to
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl the more I believe it, it's getting
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: started late. Guys have off season surgeries, they're not quite themselves.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Free agency departures. We talked, We put it out right
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: before free agency started. Eagles are going to cut their
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: cash budget and spending football operations. And that you've seen
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of the free agent moves just didn't work out.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: There weren't how I had a quiet free agency. I
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: understand that a lot of them didn't work out. It's
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: all kind of all. It's all kind of coming to
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: your firs here, just a just guys not executing. Guy's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: not playing as well. The cornerback position off opposite Dejane
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Jackson gave up big plays last week before he got hurt.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: They got a little lucky today. I'm telling you they
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: got lucky with a win. Who knows what would have
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: happened by the way Jacks Hunt did not start the game. Well,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: we'll see when when I get the snap counts sent
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: to me overnight. I'm very interesting to see what the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: snap count between Hunt and Smith happened to be in
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: this game. That's something we'll look at. We'll see how
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: how down Card was in snaps. But you know, Vic
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: was probably up. But I mean he must have been
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: super pissed. I mean, not only is he not proud
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: of what happened. For a prideful coach like Cam and
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Clint Hurt work together in Chicago, have known each other
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: a long time. When a team, I didn't write it down.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't write the down, but it was like second
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and nine or like third and eight, and they ran it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's so humiliating. They knew they couldn't.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: They got it done.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, God, yep, I thought the same thing.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: All right, listen, it's gonna be a little bit of
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: a break in Eagles game. They don't play again until
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the following Monday night against the Chargers, So we are
• 27:29
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• 27:31
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• 27:35
  Speaker 1: us here at the inside of the Birds family. Hope you
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: all had a great Thanksgiving. I'm sorry you didn't have
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: a great Black Friday. But the Eagles got a lot
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to prove and we're gonna be talking about that for
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: all the way up until their next game against the Chargers.
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