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- 0:00Speaker 1: Did they ever get back about.
- 0:09Speaker 2: All system's gone?
- 0:11Speaker 1: Clear?
- 0:11Speaker 2: Your lift on? What's up? Every one? Tyler Timberline here
- 0:43Speaker 2: aka Totag and Tambo back for another PGA show here
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- 0:50Speaker 2: subscribed to the channel. A ton of content still coming out.
- 0:53Speaker 2: I know NBA and NHL have wrapped up, but we've
- 0:56Speaker 2: got MLB almost daily, and then we've got m M
- 0:58Speaker 2: a week one week. This is a big week coming
- 1:01Speaker 2: up though. It's gonna be a lot of good content
- 1:02Speaker 2: for you guys covered there. Our man gs Luke is
- 1:05Speaker 2: doing the PGA shows as well on Wednesday evening and
- 1:07Speaker 2: then Thursday, Friday, Saturday for the Round two, three and four.
- 1:11Speaker 2: You got Hoopster here with me and it is the
- 1:13Speaker 2: Rocket Classic. No mortgage, can't can't lose the house on
- 1:16Speaker 2: this one, Hoopster. But it's in your hometown in Michigan.
- 1:20Speaker 2: What's going on? Man?
- 1:20Speaker 1: How you doing you? You get an updated head here and
- 1:23Speaker 1: eliminate the mortgage part. No longer the Rocket mortgage.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Just the merch.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Yeah, got to rebuy if you go out there this year,
- 1:31Speaker 1: you got to rebuy which I will not be attending
- 1:34Speaker 1: this year. It is always fun to go to PGA
- 1:36Speaker 1: Tour events, but yeah, not going to be out there.
- 1:39Speaker 1: I got a few other things going on this week
- 1:43Speaker 1: slash weekend. But yeah, the field's actually a little better
- 1:46Speaker 1: I think that it's been in recent years. You have
- 1:49Speaker 1: some names at the top, and I mean, we'll talk
- 1:52Speaker 1: about him, but you got Morikawa as the most expensive guy,
- 1:56Speaker 1: and hey, we kind of talked about it last week.
- 1:58Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's that sort of guy anymore,
- 2:00Speaker 1: at least right now. And you know, we'll talk to
- 2:03Speaker 1: but you know what you're getting with this course. One
- 2:04Speaker 1: thing I will say, it's going to be very very hot.
- 2:07Speaker 1: It's like one hundred degrees spend the last three days
- 2:09Speaker 1: and it's supposed to remain in the nineties, so it's
- 2:12Speaker 1: going to be very very hot all week here. I
- 2:14Speaker 1: know there is some rain the next few days. It
- 2:18Speaker 1: looked like tomorrow, Thursday, and Friday, so we don't have
- 2:21Speaker 1: full weather report, but that's one thing to keep an
- 2:24Speaker 1: eye on because it is supposed to rain and remain
- 2:27Speaker 1: very very hot. But this course is everything you hate
- 2:30Speaker 1: about potential PGA Tour courses. Easy, dirty, Fest. No potential
- 2:38Speaker 1: risk out there. Not a ton of water, if any
- 2:40Speaker 1: maybe I mean any water on this course is not
- 2:42Speaker 1: really in play. The rough is nonexistent, very very short rough.
- 2:49Speaker 1: I don't know what the exact number is, but it's
- 2:51Speaker 1: basically like playing out of the fairway. So you can
- 2:53Speaker 1: just go ahead and absolutely vomit, you know, I think,
- 2:56Speaker 1: and give an edge, an advantage for shirt to the bombers.
- 2:59Speaker 1: I mean, bombing gouge is clearly in play this week
- 3:03Speaker 1: without any risk. Not many trees or anything like that
- 3:06Speaker 1: to worry about. So very easy course, Birdie Fest. It's
- 3:10Speaker 1: really all you need to know about this one. But
- 3:12Speaker 1: you know, we'll go through and kind of follow the
- 3:15Speaker 1: format we've been rolling with. We'll go through, build some
- 3:16Speaker 1: teams on saber, talk through them, talk roster construction, game
- 3:20Speaker 1: theory sort of stuff, and then you know, probably hit
- 3:22Speaker 1: on the tiers on the way out. Yeah.
- 3:25Speaker 2: A couple of good things that are actually you know,
- 3:26Speaker 2: specifically talking about the weather I saw just before we
- 3:29Speaker 2: hopped on our guy Ron Klass is always out there
- 3:31Speaker 2: doing his thing. We got to meet him last year
- 3:33Speaker 2: we were at the Fantasy Golf World Championship Finale. Round
- 3:37Speaker 2: three was at this and you and I made it there,
- 3:39Speaker 2: so you'll being out there with him last year, just
- 3:41Speaker 2: talking through it and seeing that course and going through it.
- 3:43Speaker 2: They were talking today because that there's only a little
- 3:46Speaker 2: bit of rain right hoop, Like it looks like a
- 3:48Speaker 2: little bit tomorrow. I guess with how hot it is
- 3:51Speaker 2: gonna it feels like it's gonna bake out. It's you know,
- 3:53Speaker 2: ninety to one hundred degrees pretty much daily. So they
- 3:56Speaker 2: are trying their best because they're doing some big renovation
- 3:59Speaker 2: at this course to bake it out. Now, I don't
- 4:02Speaker 2: think they're gonna be able to do much. It's still
- 4:03Speaker 2: his the pros. It still is out here. So that
- 4:05Speaker 2: was one thing that I wanted to bring up early.
- 4:07Speaker 2: And then the second part was just you talked about
- 4:09Speaker 2: you making fun of the Maracow piece. For sure, I'm
- 4:11Speaker 2: in with you on that. You know Mariflowa, as our
- 4:13Speaker 2: late friend Dejenerate seventy five would say, this guy, but
- 4:16Speaker 2: it's just a product of the odds. People always forget that,
- 4:18Speaker 2: like he's priced at that, it doesn't mean you have
- 4:20Speaker 2: to play him at all. There's actually been years at
- 4:22Speaker 2: this tournament. By the way, just before we went live
- 4:25Speaker 2: Tony Fenow WD But we'll go to that in a
- 4:27Speaker 2: second hoop and you can make fun of him too.
- 4:29Speaker 2: But Tony Fenow, I think it was one year it
- 4:31Speaker 2: was Fenw and Bryson or something was like the only
- 4:34Speaker 2: two guys that were needed above eighty five hundred or
- 4:36Speaker 2: something because they know other guys didn't make the cut.
- 4:39Speaker 2: You know, just the way it goes, there's there's so
- 4:41Speaker 2: many ways that these guys can score and get through.
- 4:44Speaker 2: So just because you see mar Kawa Keegan Bradley coming
- 4:47Speaker 2: off the win and can't lay at the top doesn't
- 4:50Speaker 2: mean much. Like you know, look at Marco, you said
- 4:52Speaker 2: it last week. He hasn't been for three months. People
- 4:55Speaker 2: bet him at eighteen to one last week and he
- 4:57Speaker 2: busts out a nice, juicy forty second place for them
- 5:00Speaker 2: in a signature event. Like that's what he gives you.
- 5:02Speaker 2: So keep that in mind. Obviously you can play more
- 5:05Speaker 2: kala this week. It's a field strength thing. These guys
- 5:07Speaker 2: do bounce back. It's not talking out of both sides,
- 5:09Speaker 2: it's explaining it. A lot of people feel the need
- 5:12Speaker 2: to spend salary, and my first tip just for a
- 5:13Speaker 2: week like this certainly is that you can leave salary
- 5:16Speaker 2: on the table there. You know, you could play any
- 5:18Speaker 2: of those guys in the nine K range over the
- 5:20Speaker 2: ten K guys and just leave the money if you like,
- 5:22Speaker 2: the other five guys that are in your lineup. So
- 5:25Speaker 2: nobody really up top to get scared of. And I'm
- 5:27Speaker 2: not sure you saw Mao's tweet yesterday was about the
- 5:30Speaker 2: what a wild without market and I said, yeah, everyone
- 5:33Speaker 2: who bets this market gets a free pack of condoms.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Like this is just insane, these without bet markets and
- 5:37Speaker 2: what they're putting up. But I think it's it's more
- 5:39Speaker 2: for the bit. Maybe with any other thoughts you got
- 5:41Speaker 2: on any of that stuff.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's definitely there's not many ways where,
- 5:45Speaker 1: you know, you really want to actively try to leave
- 5:47Speaker 1: big chunks of salary on the table, And especially if
- 5:50Speaker 1: you have the top end guys. We've got the Shufflers
- 5:52Speaker 1: in there and the Rory's and guys like that in
- 5:55Speaker 1: the field, like you know, you probably want to not
- 5:58Speaker 1: fully fill it out, but you know, use your salary
- 6:01Speaker 1: if needed, Like you can actively leave salary on the
- 6:04Speaker 1: table this week. I mean, these guys up top are
- 6:08Speaker 1: nothing to be scared of. Like like you kind of mentioned,
- 6:12Speaker 1: and like this course, the way it's set up and
- 6:15Speaker 1: how easy it is just brings a lot of different
- 6:17Speaker 1: guys into play. And what we're saying like bombers are
- 6:21Speaker 1: probably have a little bit of advantage at least I am,
- 6:23Speaker 1: but really anyone can do well here just because of
- 6:25Speaker 1: how easy it is. It's just such an easy course,
- 6:29Speaker 1: and I'm assuming there's probably not going to be much
- 6:32Speaker 1: win again, it's really hot, and I think, you know,
- 6:35Speaker 1: they talk like they want to bake it out. I
- 6:37Speaker 1: just cannot imagine. I know, the draining they're redoing it
- 6:41Speaker 1: after this year, and the drainage has been terrible like
- 6:44Speaker 1: the last few years out there. If there's any sort
- 6:46Speaker 1: of rain, the course can't handle it. So there's no
- 6:49Speaker 1: way to potentially bake this out. I don't think so.
- 6:52Speaker 1: I'm anticipating a soft, very easy course and it brings
- 6:57Speaker 1: a lot of guys into play, So you know, different
- 7:00Speaker 1: sorts of roster construction are definitely and the one thing
- 7:03Speaker 1: to always know, like even if you don't like the
- 7:05Speaker 1: guys up top, if you don't like Morikawa, Bradley, can't
- 7:08Speaker 1: lay like they're going to be owned because people are
- 7:10Speaker 1: just goning to fill out their salary regardless, and if
- 7:13Speaker 1: you go into an optimizer, it's just going to push
- 7:15Speaker 1: those guys in there. I mean, the initial numbers are
- 7:18Speaker 1: kind of backing it up, like all these guys are
- 7:20Speaker 1: tiring and get owned, but just because it's so easy
- 7:23Speaker 1: to get them in there, and they are going to
- 7:24Speaker 1: be projected higher than the rest of the field, so
- 7:27Speaker 1: you're probably actively going to have to go. And this
- 7:29Speaker 1: is a week where I'm totally fine if like, you
- 7:31Speaker 1: build out a team and you love it, and you
- 7:33Speaker 1: got the money for Morikawa, just don't put use Marikala
- 7:37Speaker 1: and use someone in the nine k range. You could
- 7:39Speaker 1: leave that sort of salary on the table this week,
- 7:41Speaker 1: I think, and be fine with it. And you know,
- 7:43Speaker 1: I think it has a chance to be live where
- 7:45Speaker 1: in previous weeks or other weeks, signature events are majors.
- 7:49Speaker 1: If you say, all right, well I built a team,
- 7:52Speaker 1: I got enough for Scotty, I'm just going to go
- 7:53Speaker 1: down and play someone cheaper, it doesn't make sense. I
- 7:56Speaker 1: don't think this week. I think you can do a
- 7:59Speaker 1: lot of different things. It's kind of just you know,
- 8:01Speaker 1: one example of doing teams differently.
- 8:03Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's why I brought it up.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Go Collect brings that he was first in the chat
- 8:07Speaker 2: earlier today, so shut up to our guy, but says
- 8:09Speaker 2: will the balance will be more pop No, that's the
- 8:12Speaker 2: whole point. That's why we're bringing this up. Is no
- 8:13Speaker 2: matter what, people will ignore everything we said about the other.
- 8:16Speaker 2: And of course they're capable. He can literally just won
- 8:19Speaker 2: a signature event. Patrick Cantley hasn't been that bad versus
- 8:23Speaker 2: Marcow actually has been pretty bad. But he's still calling Morikawa.
- 8:26Speaker 2: In this type of field, people say, all he'll get
- 8:28Speaker 2: it back, he won't lose that much with the potter
- 8:30Speaker 2: do it. They'll come up with all these things. I'm
- 8:31Speaker 2: just saying it can happen again, so you don't have
- 8:34Speaker 2: to do it, And there's tons of different ways you
- 8:35Speaker 2: could do it. In a tool like sabersim, you can
- 8:37Speaker 2: also set it up to do like forty nine minimum.
- 8:42Speaker 2: But instead of doing forty nine minimum and leaving those
- 8:45Speaker 2: ten k guys in this is just a little tidbit
- 8:47Speaker 2: or a strategy thing. You can go forty nine nine
- 8:50Speaker 2: to forty nine to five and exout the ten k
- 8:53Speaker 2: guys so that it won't just boost and bump everywhere
- 8:56Speaker 2: else you'll still get kind of that. You'll get more
- 8:58Speaker 2: of the lineups where it would be Calm Kawa but
- 9:01Speaker 2: it leaves you know, or let's say it would have
- 9:02Speaker 2: been a Patrick cantlay but it leaves the money and
- 9:05Speaker 2: just plays Harry Hall, or leaves the money and just
- 9:08Speaker 2: plays Hideki Matsiama. So you could play you know, if
- 9:11Speaker 2: more people you think are gonna go that route. Another
- 9:13Speaker 2: thing will be when we get to it later. There's
- 9:14Speaker 2: most certainly ways with the way that the upper sixes
- 9:17Speaker 2: and lower set lower seven specifically this week, the lower
- 9:20Speaker 2: sevens have a ton of different guys people play. Not
- 9:22Speaker 2: saying that'll be popular, but people are comfortable playing them.
- 9:25Speaker 2: Another interesting route would be to go too ten k's
- 9:28Speaker 2: if more people are talking like Coop and I and
- 9:30Speaker 2: just saying like, you know, you don't have to play
- 9:32Speaker 2: those guys up top, well what about playing two of
- 9:34Speaker 2: them right and skipping over those next ranges. So there's
- 9:37Speaker 2: a few different interesting ways to go. I think I
- 9:38Speaker 2: know what the optimizer is gonna bring. But do you
- 9:40Speaker 2: have a saber up there? Who? Oh mute city over there?
- 9:48Speaker 2: Oh still muted. You can see the little mute right
- 9:52Speaker 2: on your is Hoop muted. I see mute and it
- 9:59Speaker 2: shows the X through his thingy. Wait on the chat
- 10:11Speaker 2: to jump in. I think he's bouncing back and forth
- 10:14Speaker 2: the rocket mute classic. They said, see, I don't know.
- 10:16Speaker 2: We'll have to see if if it was just me, Yeah,
- 10:20Speaker 2: Hoop is muted. I saw that. I heard I mean
- 10:22Speaker 2: it was the case, and then I saw his little
- 10:24Speaker 2: microphone missed out. While we're waiting on Hoop to come back.
- 10:28Speaker 2: I want to give this away, so let us know
- 10:32Speaker 2: in the chat. I actually know what. No, we'll do
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- 10:56Speaker 2: the score and I'm gonna give this away and ship
- 10:58Speaker 2: it out. The chat said muted. Hoop Nation muted. Now
- 11:01Speaker 2: you're good. It's a little choppy there, man, you said,
- 11:06Speaker 2: smoked a few cigarettes while you were gone or while
- 11:08Speaker 2: you were muted, and now you're coming back.
- 11:10Speaker 1: We got you gee rise in the safety safety break.
- 11:14Speaker 1: My throat's a little.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Uh little on the way back, but we got you.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Know you're back.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Go ahead, let me see now now I should be.
- 11:23Speaker 2: Goodness. We need to get our man a new mic.
- 11:25Speaker 2: We got to get him a little specially good. Uh No,
- 11:30Speaker 2: you're back now, Try and.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Say like that is it full?
- 11:35Speaker 2: It's back, But it's like cutting in and out. Some
- 11:37Speaker 2: of your mic is cutting in and out.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Yeah, you keep talking. Let me figure this out for
- 11:41Speaker 1: a second.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I work on that. We'll talk.
- 11:44Speaker 1: You're usually you're usually good at talking a lot, so
- 11:46Speaker 1: put that to use.
- 11:47Speaker 2: Oh of course. Yeah, we just started to give away
- 11:48Speaker 2: people know that now we're safety meeting. You've ever been
- 11:51Speaker 2: a part of He says, Hey, I can do the
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- 11:54Speaker 2: you guys want to check it out, this run is
- 11:56Speaker 2: pretty solid because if you're not a member yet, you're
- 11:58Speaker 2: gonna want to be a member. We've did a little bit,
- 12:00Speaker 2: but there's something huge coming. And then if you want
- 12:03Speaker 2: to look at it from this perspective, you get the
- 12:05Speaker 2: rocket classic John Deere Scottish Open, the final major of
- 12:10Speaker 2: the season with the Open and the three Am, so
- 12:13Speaker 2: you're gonna get five big time PGA events alone. There's
- 12:16Speaker 2: a huge MMA event this week. You'll get a bunch
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- 12:23Speaker 2: of that stuff. For twenty four dollars. Is for a
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- 12:30Speaker 2: It gets you Sabersim, which we're about to bring up.
- 12:33Speaker 2: All that is included. It's a hoopster try again, says
- 12:36Speaker 2: story Cruse.
- 12:38Speaker 1: We're back in business.
- 12:40Speaker 2: We'll try it. Yeah, much much better than it was.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Okay, that's weirir dn. I have no idea what's going on? Yeah,
- 12:45Speaker 1: let me pull off bus sabers I kind of went through.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Did the same thing that we've been doing. Just did
- 12:49Speaker 1: the dry run.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Good good, good question. While you're pulling that up, just
- 12:53Speaker 2: put the stroke score. So I have you got Colin
- 12:55Speaker 2: Moricle winning at eighteen under put Colin morricawa minus eighteen
- 13:00Speaker 2: or whatever you want to frame it up as that.
- 13:01Speaker 2: That's the key. Good good question, and thank you for clarifying.
- 13:05Speaker 1: All right, so ran one thousand teams. I guess you know,
- 13:07Speaker 1: I could bring this salary down if we do, if
- 13:10Speaker 1: we do rerun it, I will bring this down just
- 13:12Speaker 1: for the sake of seeing some teams that don't, you know,
- 13:16Speaker 1: come close to filling it out, but got it sorted
- 13:21Speaker 1: by projected score like we typically do here. To start
- 13:26Speaker 1: at the top, you're going to see what you said.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Oh, you already brought up my you did the special
- 13:31Speaker 2: move for me.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the one thing I've gotten right so
- 13:34Speaker 1: far on the show. I mean, we've had some technical difficulties,
- 13:36Speaker 1: but I did pre bring over exposure next to salary,
- 13:40Speaker 1: so we're good there. I'm learning a little bit, that
- 13:44Speaker 1: is for sure. But as you see, even if you
- 13:47Speaker 1: don't like these guys up top, they're going to show
- 13:49Speaker 1: up in teams. And this is projected score. Marikawa twenty seven,
- 13:54Speaker 1: Can't Lay thirty five, Ben Griffin thirty one. I would
- 13:57Speaker 1: venture to say a majority of teams have one of
- 14:02Speaker 1: those guys. This isn't loving Kegan Bradley all that much
- 14:06Speaker 1: simply because he's projected lower than the other guys got
- 14:10Speaker 1: And this is based off Sabers projection. So got Mari
- 14:13Speaker 1: Kala with the projection of eighty nine, Patrick can't lay
- 14:17Speaker 1: eighty five, Griffin eighty three, and Keegan a little below
- 14:21Speaker 1: eighty three. So it's just preferring those other guys. You know,
- 14:25Speaker 1: when we switch around the settings, do Sabers score that
- 14:27Speaker 1: sort of thing, it might differ. It probably will differ
- 14:29Speaker 1: because he is coming in lower owned than the other dudes.
- 14:34Speaker 1: So I guess the one thing that definitely stands out
- 14:36Speaker 1: for sure is those guys are just going to get
- 14:38Speaker 1: into lineups. You look at our top projected lineups Mari
- 14:42Speaker 1: kylea Morikawa, this one is Ben Griffin, can't lay, Morikawa,
- 14:48Speaker 1: can't lay, Mori Kala. I'd say almost all our one
- 14:52Speaker 1: hundred and fifty teams will are going to show up
- 14:54Speaker 1: with one of those guys, because it's it's not like this.
- 14:56Speaker 1: These are expensive dudes, like their twelve k guys. They're
- 14:59Speaker 1: ten nine the top price. Only three guys in the
- 15:02Speaker 1: ten k k range. It's going to force those guys in.
- 15:04Speaker 1: So that's the first thing that stands out here with
- 15:07Speaker 1: projected score Curtis Wow Samerson, most their projections must have
- 15:12Speaker 1: a strong lean to Davis Thompson because every week we
- 15:14Speaker 1: do this, Davis Thompson is what do you do last week?
- 15:18Speaker 1: I don't mean, I don't even know what he did
- 15:19Speaker 1: last week?
- 15:20Speaker 2: Below the average price? Right now?
- 15:23Speaker 1: Yeah they did like a fifth? Yeah yeah, okay, that's
- 15:27Speaker 1: probably why. But he does have a high projected number,
- 15:29Speaker 1: so he's showing up. Got her up, showing up at
- 15:31Speaker 1: a high clip Wyndham Clark. Then you start to get
- 15:35Speaker 1: some of these seven k guys, so pretty much what
- 15:39Speaker 1: I expected. I mean, you're gonna get a lot of
- 15:41Speaker 1: teams that just go ahead and actively force in the
- 15:46Speaker 1: top end guys. We're seeing it in the ownership twenty
- 15:48Speaker 1: seven thirty five, thirty one percent and the majority of
- 15:52Speaker 1: the teams, all our top teams for the most part,
- 15:54Speaker 1: have someone up top.
- 15:55Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the first thing I know is is what
- 15:57Speaker 2: you know? Go collect brought up earlier, And that's why
- 15:59Speaker 2: I said it's so import and an event like this
- 16:00Speaker 2: to remember, it's just like it's automatic almost and even
- 16:03Speaker 2: the people that it's like there's almost, as our guy
- 16:05Speaker 2: Titles says, there's levels to it. This is an exact
- 16:09Speaker 2: tournament for that. Because even if you can get past
- 16:11Speaker 2: building some of the lineups the same way as everybody else.
- 16:14Speaker 2: Everybody runs to like the second version of what they
- 16:16Speaker 2: think is sneaky, and it's not in going to like
- 16:19Speaker 2: the Ben Griffin stuff right like, Oh, I'm gonna pade
- 16:21Speaker 2: the ten games, but I'm gonna play Ben Griffin. It's
- 16:23Speaker 2: like you literally just went to the next move that
- 16:25Speaker 2: everybody was already making. And there is much like in
- 16:28Speaker 2: life and in business hoop, there is people that sometimes
- 16:31Speaker 2: are ten steps ahead and the other side doesn't even
- 16:33Speaker 2: know what game they're playing. So you know, it is
- 16:35Speaker 2: possible in this situation that people are gonna get stuck there.
- 16:38Speaker 2: So let's go to Saber Score now and just do
- 16:42Speaker 2: a front run. Because I don't think enough people know this.
- 16:44Speaker 2: But even with that twenty four dollars deal in our
- 16:46Speaker 2: core package, when people are just saying, hey, I've never
- 16:48Speaker 2: used an optimizer, I want to get used to it.
- 16:50Speaker 2: We can show you some of the stuff you'll see
- 16:53Speaker 2: with Saber Score, and you know we can look through
- 16:55Speaker 2: it now. This is where people confuse it too. I think,
- 16:57Speaker 2: who because some of the exposure will look identical. They're like, oh,
- 17:03Speaker 2: didn't even do anything. It's I still got twenty five
- 17:05Speaker 2: percent more cow, I still got thirty percent. This guy,
- 17:07Speaker 2: what do you mean like it didn't even do anything.
- 17:08Speaker 2: It's factoring in so much more than just your exposures.
- 17:12Speaker 2: It's actually saying, hey, by the way, this is the
- 17:15Speaker 2: whole point. It's saying, we can get you some really
- 17:18Speaker 2: cool and good lineups that are powerful with upside, with
- 17:22Speaker 2: the same guys you want to use in some cases,
- 17:25Speaker 2: because it's not who you play, it's how you play
- 17:27Speaker 2: them in a tool. It's show you, hey, I can
- 17:29Speaker 2: still you can still play more cow a twenty four percent,
- 17:32Speaker 2: But let me show you what I'm gonna do with
- 17:33Speaker 2: those lineups and who I know? When you when you
- 17:35Speaker 2: turn on the plus sign or you adjust it up.
- 17:37Speaker 2: What size field are you in right now? Under saberscore?
- 17:40Speaker 2: Are you in the fifty k?
- 17:42Speaker 1: I just put it in the biggest Yeah, the fifty
- 17:43Speaker 1: thousand sabers score, fifty k plas, Yeah, just the big stuff.
- 17:47Speaker 1: And it'll vary a little bit obviously if you went smaller.
- 17:50Speaker 1: But the one thing that definitely stands out just goes
- 17:52Speaker 1: back to our initial point. No matter what you do,
- 17:55Speaker 1: it's gonna want to jam in these guys. And the
- 17:57Speaker 1: big difference here is just more Kegan Bradley. Sogan is
- 18:00Speaker 1: looking like the lowest owned up top at fifteen percent
- 18:04Speaker 1: on the projected score run, we only got four percent.
- 18:07Speaker 1: When we change that to Saber score, Keegan Bradley comes
- 18:10Speaker 1: up to seventeen percent. It's strictly a function of him
- 18:14Speaker 1: being the lowest owned up here, and it looks like
- 18:16Speaker 1: it took away from Ben Griffin. So they're projected similarly.
- 18:20Speaker 1: Keegan's more expensive and gonna be lower own. So that
- 18:24Speaker 1: was a big shift up here to you know, more
- 18:27Speaker 1: Keegan opposed to Ben Griffin. And then you don't see
- 18:33Speaker 1: as much. Davis Thompson. Davis Thompson fell off a cliff.
- 18:38Speaker 2: Start by salary. Let's see.
- 18:41Speaker 1: So oh so he like disappeared, and it's because it's
- 18:44Speaker 1: shown forty percent owned, Like he's not gonna be forty
- 18:46Speaker 1: percent owned, But it's because he's just by far the
- 18:51Speaker 1: as of now, the highest dooned guy in that range.
- 18:55Speaker 1: Like we can adjust that down, like he's not gonna
- 18:57Speaker 1: be forty percent owned, let's just put it at twenty.
- 19:01Speaker 1: I guess I don't know it's by more fair When.
- 19:03Speaker 2: You say, sure, I didn't get it off thirty eight.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll rerun at some point here.
- 19:09Speaker 2: And zero zero Tony as well. Zero is projection.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just gonna boom. He's gone. And what I
- 19:17Speaker 1: personally like to do is my removed players. I don't
- 19:20Speaker 1: want to see him in there. So once I remove
- 19:21Speaker 1: a guy, I want him out easy right here to
- 19:24Speaker 1: do that. Some people keep him in. I want their
- 19:26Speaker 1: asses out as soon as I know I'm not playing someone.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Just don't even show me their names anymore. Just have
- 19:30Speaker 1: them disappear. Some people like to keep it in there.
- 19:33Speaker 1: So now few will be out and I'll re run
- 19:37Speaker 1: and see what we get. But yeah, Davis Thompson has
- 19:40Speaker 1: a very high projection and this is not going to
- 19:43Speaker 1: be inaccurate like thirty nine. He's thirty nine percent. So
- 19:48Speaker 1: at this point I'll rebuild and I'm gonna go ahead
- 19:50Speaker 1: and let's just bring in a lower potential salary.
- 19:54Speaker 2: One thing I want to say while you're doing this
- 19:55Speaker 2: is that like, that's the other thing. And I know
- 19:57Speaker 2: we didn't get to it fully and we will, but
- 19:59Speaker 2: already not just the Kegan thing where obviously he's lower
- 20:01Speaker 2: own he gets put in. That's like in baseball, you
- 20:03Speaker 2: see some of the low you know, the stacks against
- 20:05Speaker 2: the chalk pitcher get populated as higher Saber scores or
- 20:09Speaker 2: rois if you'll contest sims ROI if you have the
- 20:12Speaker 2: ultimate package. But they were built differently. A lot of
- 20:15Speaker 2: those lineups. Did you see the side it was like
- 20:17Speaker 2: forty nine to five, forty nine six. It's like that's
- 20:19Speaker 2: the other thing is when you're playing some of that chalk,
- 20:21Speaker 2: if you're leaving six hundred bucks on the table, you
- 20:24Speaker 2: can obviously get away with a little bit more that
- 20:25Speaker 2: way as well. But the big difference was it likes
- 20:28Speaker 2: the guys at the top. It obviously moved way off
- 20:31Speaker 2: of Davis Thompson where it's like that's the guy that's
- 20:34Speaker 2: killing your your upside. It's keeping you backed into a
- 20:37Speaker 2: corner where you need those chalk pieces to hit. You
- 20:39Speaker 2: go with the crowd on all of them, and then
- 20:42Speaker 2: there's only a small corner of the party to still
- 20:44Speaker 2: get to the drink menu and be able to order
- 20:46Speaker 2: one because you've got the same as everybody. You didn't
- 20:48Speaker 2: really move that far in the lineup when you think
- 20:50Speaker 2: you did, so, you know, kind of thinking of it
- 20:53Speaker 2: from that perspective is different analogy. But yeah, this is
- 20:55Speaker 2: the key to look at here.
- 20:57Speaker 1: So we're gonna go back and yeah, I mean Davis
- 20:59Speaker 1: time and is it's a very aggressive number when you
- 21:03Speaker 1: look at other people in his area.
- 21:05Speaker 2: Seventies projected change to one to fifty.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Yeah, one fifty, so he's like eighty.
- 21:11Speaker 2: But if we go to one fifty there, let's se Yeah.
- 21:12Speaker 1: It's going to be a huge number. But I just
- 21:14Speaker 1: want to show the difference here in that range. So
- 21:16Speaker 1: anything we do with projected score, he's clearly going to
- 21:19Speaker 1: be there. He's projected right around seventy seven. No one
- 21:23Speaker 1: in his range is close to that. You know, Matt
- 21:26Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick up here seventy four. Everyone below him is closer
- 21:30Speaker 1: to seventy. So that's the reason he's going to show
- 21:33Speaker 1: up in everything for the twenty teams. He showed up
- 21:35Speaker 1: in every team at So yeah, he's in there one
- 21:39Speaker 1: hundred percent. We go to one fifty, it will Yeah,
- 21:45Speaker 1: so still sixty five. Now let's see with sabers score,
- 21:48Speaker 1: do we start to get a little bit of him
- 21:50Speaker 1: when we sort by saber score Because I took that
- 21:52Speaker 1: ownership number from basically forty percent down to twenty curious
- 21:58Speaker 1: to see if he still shows up.
- 22:01Speaker 2: Yeah, he's up there.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's still there, so now twenty eight, So
- 22:07Speaker 1: like they just didn't love the Okay, if someone's going
- 22:10Speaker 1: to be massively owned in a range, like when you
- 22:13Speaker 1: start applying game theory and things like that to the equation,
- 22:18Speaker 1: they're just going to disappear. Well, the twenty percent is
- 22:20Speaker 1: still reasonable. He has the big numbers, so it's getting
- 22:23Speaker 1: twenty eight based on saberscore. So let's see. Yeah, so
- 22:28Speaker 1: kind of the same dynamic up top Marikawa. Keegan is
- 22:33Speaker 1: up higher obviously, like we just saw can't lay at
- 22:36Speaker 1: thirty three, and then Ben Griffin came down a little
- 22:38Speaker 1: bit from the projected score number. And really what you
- 22:42Speaker 1: do see when you do this with saberscore, things tend
- 22:45Speaker 1: to get spread out a little bit more like our
- 22:47Speaker 1: highest zone guy is thirty three percent opposed to sixty
- 22:52Speaker 1: five percent, and you start to see a lot more
- 22:55Speaker 1: guys kind of come into the fold tier a little bit.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Get seventy two golfers essentially at this point, but looking
- 23:01Speaker 1: at some of the teams still wants at least one
- 23:05Speaker 1: of someone up top. Keegan, Ben Griffin, Patrick can't lay
- 23:11Speaker 1: Ben Griffin, Patrick can't lay Keegan can't Lay, can't Lay,
- 23:18Speaker 1: and Kegan. This is the first team that doesn't have
- 23:23Speaker 1: like Ben Griffin or above. It's a Decky a Decky
- 23:27Speaker 1: Harry Hall team. Back to can't lay team, Keegan team
- 23:32Speaker 1: can't lay team. So, like, I don't know, I'd say
- 23:34Speaker 1: probably ninety percent of our teams are gonna have one
- 23:37Speaker 1: of those guys up top. This is a Harry Hall,
- 23:40Speaker 1: Max Grazerman, you know, Fitzpatrick team.
- 23:44Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Most of the teams like again,
- 23:46Speaker 2: people like a like I don't know, but that that's
- 23:48Speaker 2: an example where different at least going to the next
- 23:50Speaker 2: tier of not just Ben Griffin, but it's also skipping
- 23:53Speaker 2: the sixes, skipping the tens, using one to eight K
- 23:57Speaker 2: and still projects. Well, can you do me a favorite?
- 23:59Speaker 2: Want to checks on a for now and for future?
- 24:01Speaker 2: You know the full screen button in the top corner
- 24:03Speaker 2: by the question mark under account. Yeah, see if you
- 24:08Speaker 2: click that for a second, I just want to check
- 24:09Speaker 2: something now. It doesn't do it like, I don't know
- 24:13Speaker 2: why when we're on stream arit it kind of cuts
- 24:14Speaker 2: off the ownership on the right hand side because it's
- 24:16Speaker 2: interesting just to show people either way, it doesn't matter
- 24:19Speaker 2: like that first lineup or that you have their number thirteen. Yeah,
- 24:22Speaker 2: we tried that too.
- 24:23Speaker 1: It's weird, very bizarre.
- 24:26Speaker 2: It is a nice feature they have that even on
- 24:28Speaker 2: our site. When you use it, you can make it
- 24:30Speaker 2: full screen. But I was just trying to show them.
- 24:32Speaker 2: You can clearly see like some of those gaps in
- 24:34Speaker 2: ownership on the right, but the forty nine to four
- 24:37Speaker 2: even on a team, scroll up to the top. You're
- 24:40Speaker 2: on team number thirteen right now, go back up to
- 24:42Speaker 2: like the popular start of like a Keegan brad Okay,
- 24:46Speaker 2: Keegan Bradley's not popular, So let's use the Ben Griffin
- 24:49Speaker 2: team the next one. This is an interesting one because
- 24:52Speaker 2: even though it's got Ben Griffin, it's got Michael Kim,
- 24:56Speaker 2: Jespers Fencing, you know, Max Homer, Hideki guys that are
- 25:00Speaker 2: names that you can definitely get behind. We've seen at
- 25:02Speaker 2: the tops of tournaments throughout this year three hundred bucks
- 25:05Speaker 2: on the table still projects for almost four hundred and
- 25:08Speaker 2: thirty points, has a huge Saber score and I can't
- 25:11Speaker 2: see them hoop, But what is it showing the ownership
- 25:13Speaker 2: on lineup two for Michael Kim Jetley, what are their
- 25:15Speaker 2: ownerships in the right now sixties.
- 25:17Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty nine percent, the first one sixty one, seventy five,
- 25:21Speaker 1: sixty six, eighty three sixties. So it's kind of like
- 25:24Speaker 1: in this uh sixty percent total ownership range. You know,
- 25:29Speaker 1: I'm just curious this week just to see the difference.
- 25:31Speaker 1: And I'm gonna run contest sims and just see what,
- 25:35Speaker 1: see what we get. I have the Lotto contest up,
- 25:40Speaker 1: so we'll run it and give us a third look.
- 25:42Speaker 1: You know, we got projected score, we have a saber score.
- 25:45Speaker 1: I want to run contest sims and kind of see
- 25:48Speaker 1: see what we get. You know, if it differs quite
- 25:51Speaker 1: a bit, you know, do some of these guys come
- 25:53Speaker 1: way up, come way down. We'll see it's usually pretty quick,
- 25:57Speaker 1: uh to run and we'll get a third look at it.
- 26:00Speaker 1: Because really, roster construction this week is everything to me,
- 26:03Speaker 1: because anyone can win this event. Like this isn't an
- 26:06Speaker 1: event like sometimes if you're going too a major, you
- 26:09Speaker 1: go into a signature event, probably a group of guys
- 26:12Speaker 1: that have a chance of winning. This week, the potential
- 26:15Speaker 1: winners at this event are just so widespread, like a
- 26:19Speaker 1: winner could come from anywhere. And this is it's always important,
- 26:22Speaker 1: and I.
- 26:23Speaker 3: Think you know you've done a great job always beating
- 26:25Speaker 3: this drum because people are, oh, well, if he's thirty
- 26:28Speaker 3: percent on, I can't play like It's like that logic
- 26:31Speaker 3: to me just kills me.
- 26:33Speaker 1: Unless you don't like the guy. If you don't like
- 26:35Speaker 1: the guy, then yeah, don't play him at thirty percent.
- 26:36Speaker 1: But if you like somebody that is getting ownership, don't
- 26:40Speaker 1: fade him. Just playing differently in any sport, any sport.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Any anything like that. That's the whole point. And that's
- 26:45Speaker 2: I mean, like, that's what I try to explain about
- 26:47Speaker 2: SABERSM people. I think it's a sales pitch. It's literally
- 26:49Speaker 2: like twenty five bucks more than buying SABERSIM to get
- 26:52Speaker 2: it through shiper Nation, get everything that we offer. But
- 26:54Speaker 2: the point is is that it's doing that for us.
- 26:57Speaker 2: I don't have to be the person that's it's not
- 27:00Speaker 2: you played time and do this, do this, do this.
- 27:01Speaker 2: You know all these different roster constructions. You can see it.
- 27:04Speaker 2: It just showed you when we ran on projected score
- 27:07Speaker 2: there before who got to the contest sims, it was
- 27:09Speaker 2: showing you the same percentage on Patrick Cantlay, almost identical
- 27:13Speaker 2: in both places. But in the first run. The lineups
- 27:16Speaker 2: had like ninety percent total ownership. Just it doesn't matter
- 27:19Speaker 2: about that. I don't go that every slate is different
- 27:21Speaker 2: for that. I just explain it quickly. This way. It
- 27:23Speaker 2: let Davis Thompson get in there. It let all the
- 27:25Speaker 2: best projected plays get in there, because that's what it's
- 27:28Speaker 2: thinking that you want. But in a high variant sport
- 27:31Speaker 2: like PGA DFS and with a tool like this that's
- 27:33Speaker 2: this powerful, you can see that it's saying, look, you
- 27:35Speaker 2: can still play Kegan Brad or you can still play
- 27:38Speaker 2: Patrick Cantlay. Just put them in here this way and
- 27:41Speaker 2: look at this. We're still getting you a really high
- 27:43Speaker 2: projected lineup, but with much more leverage built in to
- 27:46Speaker 2: give you an actual chance to get to the top
- 27:49Speaker 2: of the tournament and box others out or chase them
- 27:52Speaker 2: down versus get to the top with everybody the same way.
- 27:55Speaker 2: And then you're battling with a two v two. And
- 27:57Speaker 2: I know our chat was talking, you know on Discord
- 27:59Speaker 2: last night about the Fantasy Golf World Championship in that
- 28:02Speaker 2: same type of setup where it's like round one, it's
- 28:05Speaker 2: like a cash game. Well, if you're playing all the
- 28:06Speaker 2: same places as everybody else then, yeah, you really don't
- 28:08Speaker 2: give yourself much of a battle unless the chalk just
- 28:11Speaker 2: smashes and you go with them. But having some leverage
- 28:14Speaker 2: in there is always a good idea. What do you
- 28:15Speaker 2: see here? I know you highlighted Davis Thompson.
- 28:17Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this shows you the power of sabersim
- 28:21Speaker 1: and the contest sim package. It's like, okay, Davis Thompson,
- 28:24Speaker 1: highest projected guy in that range, highest still the highest
- 28:28Speaker 1: hoe we altered it a little bit, still the highest done.
- 28:30Speaker 1: And it's just naturally because they're going to be playing
- 28:33Speaker 1: guys up top. Obviously, if you're playing, you know, David
- 28:35Speaker 1: Thompson at eighty one hundred, it's not like we're talking
- 28:37Speaker 1: about an expensive guy. He's an average price on DraftKings.
- 28:40Speaker 1: So it gives you a lot of lineups with the
- 28:44Speaker 1: lowest oone guy up top, a lot of lineups with Keegan.
- 28:47Speaker 1: Keegan showing up in seventy seventeen percent of teams. You
- 28:52Speaker 1: have Ciwu Kim showing up on quite a bit of
- 28:55Speaker 1: team just giving you different looks. Look at the highest
- 28:58Speaker 1: saber or highest contests and rankings here ROI rankings. The
- 29:02Speaker 1: fifth best team that we have is Davis Thompson with
- 29:07Speaker 1: Keegan Davis Thompson. Keegan Davis Thompson, Keegan Davis Thompson. Now
- 29:13Speaker 1: you start to get some Ben Griffin. But it also
- 29:15Speaker 1: throws in Wu Kim with like Mo.
- 29:19Speaker 2: And Wallace and randoms down low right.
- 29:21Speaker 1: So yes, I'm examply y. Yeah, I mean this shows
- 29:25Speaker 1: you exactly. You got forty five percent of our Davis
- 29:27Speaker 1: Thompson teams with Keegan, thirty one with Kim, and it's
- 29:32Speaker 1: because of this number over here they're low owned in
- 29:34Speaker 1: their ranges. So it does a lot of the hard
- 29:39Speaker 1: work for you on its own. And for someone like me,
- 29:41Speaker 1: it's perfect because I've always struggled with that building teams
- 29:45Speaker 1: that are too chalky or too much ownership. This takes
- 29:48Speaker 1: that out of the equation for you. It literally does
- 29:51Speaker 1: it for you. I would never get teams like that.
- 29:54Speaker 1: It certainly helped my game for sure, just you know,
- 29:58Speaker 1: going through this process and seeing how it all works.
- 30:02Speaker 1: But yeah, Keegan looks like the you know, contest sim
- 30:05Speaker 1: guy for sure. Here on our top team, I eliminated
- 30:09Speaker 1: all the other filters on our top team. Here shows
- 30:14Speaker 1: up right here on our top fifth best team. So
- 30:18Speaker 1: he shows up sixth seventh best team has Keegan. So yeah,
- 30:22Speaker 1: it is interesting when you start looking through it all.
- 30:24Speaker 2: One thing I want to do this is probably a
- 30:26Speaker 2: good exercise is we're on it today. I know. Like again,
- 30:28Speaker 2: there's a ton of different things. But for a tournament
- 30:30Speaker 2: like this as well, it's kind of fun if if
- 30:31Speaker 2: you go to contests for a second at the top
- 30:34Speaker 2: the top left, right click on find one hundred dollars
- 30:39Speaker 2: single entry, and then right click on the left hand side.
- 30:44Speaker 2: So where's one hundred dollars singing there? Yeah, you've got
- 30:48Speaker 2: it turned on. Now go back and run sims again,
- 30:50Speaker 2: even on the same build, and even you can lead both.
- 30:54Speaker 2: But yeah, if you do this, just just rerun the
- 30:56Speaker 2: little crystal ball there for a second, because I think
- 30:58Speaker 2: a lot of people do this too, like, well, I
- 31:00Speaker 2: don't need it, you know, for I'm only looking at singulary.
- 31:02Speaker 2: Even if you don't use this, use the core package
- 31:04Speaker 2: and just use saber score apply kind of the same
- 31:06Speaker 2: thought process. But I'll just give you a quick rundown
- 31:08Speaker 2: because a lot of people ask me about like how
- 31:10Speaker 2: do you get to a single entry that you like?
- 31:12Speaker 2: You probably if you're doing single entry or if that's
- 31:14Speaker 2: part of your process, or if you only play one lineup,
- 31:17Speaker 2: you kind of got to get a smaller pool in line.
- 31:19Speaker 2: If you like forty golfers this week, it may not
- 31:22Speaker 2: be the best week to just jam a single entry
- 31:23Speaker 2: lineup and pick one because you've got so many golfers
- 31:25Speaker 2: you do like click the did you click the crystal
- 31:28Speaker 2: ball again? Hoop at the top?
- 31:30Speaker 1: YEP, so we got it sorted by ROI for the
- 31:34Speaker 1: single entry sixty K long drive.
- 31:37Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 31:38Speaker 2: So now what I look at is something like this,
- 31:40Speaker 2: and look, this is a different style Patrick can't lay
- 31:42Speaker 2: lineup like it shows you it's it's but it's can't
- 31:44Speaker 2: lay Griffin. Okay, maybe I don't love that combination. What
- 31:47Speaker 2: I'll do is, like, let's look at the second one.
- 31:50Speaker 2: If it's a Keegan with Grazerman and four seven k's like,
- 31:54Speaker 2: that's definitely different.
- 31:55Speaker 1: So much lower ownership. I know we can't see, but
- 31:57Speaker 1: the first team as eighty six percent on the second
- 32:00Speaker 1: one fifty seven total.
- 32:03Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, so that you know you
- 32:05Speaker 2: can see again. It's only I know with golf projections
- 32:08Speaker 2: is always tricky and and I agree because it's median
- 32:10Speaker 2: scores and you have a miscut bang and that's useless anyway,
- 32:13Speaker 2: and just this, that and the other. But I'm just
- 32:15Speaker 2: saying what I look for is certain types of builds,
- 32:18Speaker 2: and an example might be like the what's let me
- 32:22Speaker 2: leave it where it is right now. I'm gonna maximize
- 32:24Speaker 2: this so I can see that lineup. So like number
- 32:25Speaker 2: four there, if you look, it's got Hideki with three
- 32:31Speaker 2: eight k's and two sevens. And even though Norin might
- 32:35Speaker 2: get played and Fitzpatrick might get played or whatever, these
- 32:37Speaker 2: numbers shake out. Like if you feel like you don't
- 32:40Speaker 2: like any of the guys at the top, you were
- 32:42Speaker 2: already thinking about Hideki, you're like me, you love jagerbombs,
- 32:46Speaker 2: you think the eight k's are going overlooked or for
- 32:48Speaker 2: a three max. I know this is for a single
- 32:50Speaker 2: entry tournament, but obviously this lineup would play in three max.
- 32:52Speaker 2: You saw every other build we looked at, so Tom,
- 32:55Speaker 2: that's the point of the dry run, not just to
- 32:56Speaker 2: see the exposure percentages. Also see the roster construction Hoop scanned.
- 33:01Speaker 2: Every single build had one of Ben Griffin or above,
- 33:04Speaker 2: like eighty point or ninety percent plus had that. It
- 33:08Speaker 2: doesn't mean you just jam this build. You can change
- 33:10Speaker 2: around a piece or two. But you clearly know that
- 33:13Speaker 2: because it starts with Decky, with three eight K guys,
- 33:16Speaker 2: you're gonna be unique. It still projects for four thirty
- 33:19Speaker 2: three point five. It has a good balance of ownership,
- 33:22Speaker 2: a good balance of upside guys that can play. That
- 33:24Speaker 2: could come through Rasmus Nor Smally, Yagger, mat Siama Fitzpatrick.
- 33:29Speaker 2: And it leaves two hundred bucks on the table. That's
- 33:31Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And in this one, in the single entry,
- 33:33Speaker 2: it's got a thirty eight percent ROI. It's again, these
- 33:36Speaker 2: are just numbers. People will say what they want to
- 33:38Speaker 2: say about it. The point is not exactly that. It's
- 33:41Speaker 2: more of how you can use the tool to your
- 33:43Speaker 2: advantage and then find what you're looking for. If you say, well,
- 33:46Speaker 2: I like everything, but I don't like that Smally guy,
- 33:49Speaker 2: don't play it. Pick a different guy than Smally, you know,
- 33:51Speaker 2: maybe you like. Maybe you say I'm different enough already
- 33:55Speaker 2: I could play Davis Thompson this. I still feel like
- 33:57Speaker 2: I'm good with this construction. Starting with Decky and using
- 34:01Speaker 2: three eight K guys, it's only one hundred dollars single entry.
- 34:04Speaker 2: The field is smaller. I've pulled enough levers. I don't
- 34:07Speaker 2: care what anyone says. I like Davis Thompson this week,
- 34:09Speaker 2: he's too cheap. I'm playing him good. Pull smally and
- 34:12Speaker 2: play them. You can't. You're allowed to. It's just it's
- 34:15Speaker 2: to get a starting point. And people always think like
- 34:17Speaker 2: optimizers only for one reason. Kenny, our guy plays the
- 34:21Speaker 2: highest stakes possible and crushes across all sports, says I
- 34:23Speaker 2: don't necessarily use it to build. He mostly plays single
- 34:26Speaker 2: hentry thunderdomes and three k's and things like that. But
- 34:29Speaker 2: he's saying it's another tool to get an idea of
- 34:31Speaker 2: what other high stakes players are looking at. He's able
- 34:34Speaker 2: to check it out and see sort of where somebody
- 34:36Speaker 2: is gonna land. I know there's a lot of good
- 34:38Speaker 2: high stakes chats in the Ship and Nation discord between
- 34:41Speaker 2: Kenny shaloub Ricardo amongst others, where they're going like, hey man,
- 34:45Speaker 2: I can't tell you much about this, but this guy
- 34:48Speaker 2: at high stakes is gonna be like thirty percent And
- 34:51Speaker 2: you're like, okay, that's a good piece to know because
- 34:54Speaker 2: that information is important when you're when you know what
- 34:57Speaker 2: your opponents are doing. That's the whole point. Every other
- 34:59Speaker 2: show is, Folks, on a hot take or what they
- 35:01Speaker 2: can circle back and be right on. We're focusing on
- 35:04Speaker 2: winning DFS tournaments, and everybody's playing in different stakes, different levels,
- 35:09Speaker 2: different mankrolls, different contest selection, all these different setups. This
- 35:12Speaker 2: is just a quick run on lineup selection for the
- 35:15Speaker 2: style of tournament you're in, where clearly that would play well.
- 35:18Speaker 2: I don't know, hope you've got other stuff to add,
- 35:20Speaker 2: but I think those are key takeaways and learnings more
- 35:22Speaker 2: so than just the picks and the plays like we
- 35:24Speaker 2: usually talk about.
- 35:25Speaker 1: Certainly, and then one thing you know, specific to this week.
- 35:29Speaker 1: I think a lot of people assume if they don't
- 35:32Speaker 1: play guys up top, then they're automatically going to be
- 35:36Speaker 1: different when it comes to roster construction. I think that's
- 35:38Speaker 1: a mistake because you can still play the guys up
- 35:41Speaker 1: top and avoid the six K range. A lot of
- 35:43Speaker 1: people think, Okay, if I don't play more Kaler or
- 35:45Speaker 1: Keegan or can't lay like, I'm good because I'm going
- 35:49Speaker 1: to be able to go a little more balanced. Well,
- 35:51Speaker 1: you can still play those guys up top and go
- 35:53Speaker 1: balanced as well. You're not sacrificing much. That's where you
- 35:57Speaker 1: really got to push it. With roster construction this week.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Even if I play more, if you put Morikawa in there,
- 36:03Speaker 1: you still have seventy eight hundred per spot. You don't
- 36:07Speaker 1: have to go into the six ks. I can add
- 36:09Speaker 1: in uh, Grazerman. So Marikawa and Grazman at ninety one hundred,
- 36:14Speaker 1: I still have seventy five hundred dollars per spot. So
- 36:18Speaker 1: you're just not automatically different. You're not going to be
- 36:20Speaker 1: avoiding ranges that other people have to get into if
- 36:23Speaker 1: they play Markay, you really got to work this week
- 36:25Speaker 1: because the soft pricing for sure, like just pointing that,
- 36:30Speaker 1: and we have this on contestans, but like, who's our
- 36:33Speaker 1: highest owned guy in this Are we getting much in
- 36:36Speaker 1: the six K range?
- 36:37Speaker 2: Let's see, like nobody, that's not gonna nobody.
- 36:40Speaker 1: So any sort of build like these builds are forcing
- 36:42Speaker 1: in those guys. Oh wow, okay, yeah, So this is
- 36:44Speaker 1: a perfect example of why you need to take it
- 36:47Speaker 1: even a step further. This week, we're still getting a
- 36:50Speaker 1: lot of guys up top. Exposure to those guys up top.
- 36:53Speaker 1: Look at the six K range. When it's great, that
- 36:55Speaker 1: means we have zero nothing, nothing, nothing. We got David
- 36:59Speaker 1: Ford showing up on a couple teams. How much do
- 37:04Speaker 1: we have one team? We have one for Villops, one
- 37:08Speaker 1: for high Smith, one for Norlander, and we're doing that.
- 37:13Speaker 2: Is it? Wow?
- 37:14Speaker 1: So it really goes to show you how easy it
- 37:17Speaker 1: is to build teams this week. And again, by just
- 37:20Speaker 1: avoiding the top the ten K guys does not mean
- 37:23Speaker 1: that you're different right out of the gate, because no
- 37:25Speaker 1: one's gonna have to come way down here, and there
- 37:27Speaker 1: is a big drop off after some of these names
- 37:29Speaker 1: in the seven K range. So just be careful with
- 37:33Speaker 1: that this week, thinking that Okay, well I'm not going
- 37:35Speaker 1: to play Marko, I'm gonna play Hideki, but the rest
- 37:38Speaker 1: of your team could still end up looking really really
- 37:40Speaker 1: similar to a lot of those Markawa teams.
- 37:42Speaker 2: That's the flip side of it too. Again, it goes
- 37:44Speaker 2: both ways. What you just talked about as a perfect example,
- 37:46Speaker 2: but that's another thing, like a lot of people will say, again,
- 37:49Speaker 2: so everyone interprets everything differently, and you know, no one
- 37:52Speaker 2: knows the answer. We don't have the front of the
- 37:54Speaker 2: puzzle of what it's supposed to look like until Monday
- 37:57Speaker 2: or Sunday evening, I guess, and then Monday you can
- 37:59Speaker 2: dissect it. Really go through it or late Sunday evening,
- 38:01Speaker 2: but when you know the results. But this example, I
- 38:04Speaker 2: was gonna give Ben Griffin. Everyone's gonna see us go
- 38:06Speaker 2: through a day. Man, what a terrible chalk play ninety
- 38:08Speaker 2: eight Some loser is gonna play pay ninety eight hundred
- 38:11Speaker 2: dollars for Ben Grip. Maybe that's true, And yes, people
- 38:13Speaker 2: are gonna pay. Whether they're a loser or not, we
- 38:15Speaker 2: don't know yet. But I'm just saying people, when I
- 38:18Speaker 2: said it earlier, they'll say again, it's talking on both sides.
- 38:20Speaker 2: It's not. It's you know, just going to Ben Griffin.
- 38:23Speaker 2: If you go build the Ben Griffin lineups the same
- 38:25Speaker 2: as everybody else, just because you faded the top didn't
- 38:28Speaker 2: really put you in a different level. The same thing
- 38:31Speaker 2: people are saying about not needing to play the guys
- 38:33Speaker 2: up top. This is my point. Nobody's playing anybody in
- 38:36Speaker 2: the six case. If you can play one six K
- 38:39Speaker 2: guy or two six K guys and then not force
- 38:41Speaker 2: yourself to buy up from Ben Griffin to Patrick Cantley
- 38:45Speaker 2: or Kegan Bradley or Maricow, maybe the Ben Griffin lineups
- 38:48Speaker 2: that you need. Maybe the lineup you need is the
- 38:50Speaker 2: Ben Griffin Donkey chock. But it's with two six K
- 38:53Speaker 2: guys and a thousand bucks left on the table. And
- 38:56Speaker 2: it's a thousand bucks. I'm not talking like we're looking
- 38:58Speaker 2: for the optimal on that had forty five K. I
- 39:01Speaker 2: would never tell you to build like that. I'm explaining
- 39:03Speaker 2: that these Ben Griffin lineups, there's enough low owned guys
- 39:07Speaker 2: in the sevens that there's gonna be high ROI good
- 39:10Speaker 2: saver score lineups that don't require a six K guy
- 39:13Speaker 2: at all. But in the end, what is the difference
- 39:16Speaker 2: between a David Ford and a Ricky Castillo or something
- 39:20Speaker 2: like that? In the sevens. It's like that you are
- 39:23Speaker 2: Kevin Roy. Everyone has their guys and they'll play them sure,
- 39:25Speaker 2: and you can make a case for one over the
- 39:27Speaker 2: other and say I'm an idiot because you think you
- 39:28Speaker 2: know everything. It's golf. Anything can happen any given week.
- 39:31Speaker 2: The guys down here, if Toasty or Damon or Adam
- 39:34Speaker 2: Hadwin or Carson Young, Adam spenceon Kanaya, any of those guys.
- 39:39Speaker 2: If these guys show up, Danny Walker we've played in
- 39:41Speaker 2: the past, who gets hot? Any of these guys show
- 39:44Speaker 2: up and they're involved, there's gonna be people that have
- 39:47Speaker 2: them on their build and so you can get different
- 39:49Speaker 2: by doing stuff that others are thinking you don't need
- 39:52Speaker 2: or aren't using to their advantage, and that's how you
- 39:55Speaker 2: can play. And that's it. I use this example and
- 39:57Speaker 2: football at the time. Who people love football, Football come back.
- 40:00Speaker 2: We got big news coming soon before football comes back.
- 40:03Speaker 2: But the week when Jamar Chase goes off at eighteen
- 40:08Speaker 2: or nineteen percent ownership because you could easily afford him,
- 40:10Speaker 2: and he gets, you know, forty fantasy points and there
- 40:12Speaker 2: are draftings points and everyone says, oh, of course, never
- 40:15Speaker 2: gonna win an NFL DFS if the chalk wide receiver
- 40:18Speaker 2: just smashes, and you're like, really, I looked at your portfolio.
- 40:21Speaker 2: You had zero Joe Burrow. If Jamar Chase breaks the slate,
- 40:25Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is so likely to be needed that it's
- 40:27Speaker 2: not even funny. And he's like three percent on and
- 40:29Speaker 2: everyone just bitches that the chalk hit. It's like, okay,
- 40:32Speaker 2: Ben Griffin chalk hits. People will complain about it. What
- 40:35Speaker 2: a donkey chalk ninety eight hundred dollars Ben Griffin And
- 40:37Speaker 2: he got there right, But did you play him with
- 40:40Speaker 2: two eight k's and a six K guy probably not
- 40:43Speaker 2: and leave five hundred bucks. No, so you're not really
- 40:46Speaker 2: talking about the same game that whoever probably had it is.
- 40:49Speaker 2: And that's the difference in thinking these things through and
- 40:52Speaker 2: why it's so powerful to look at it from this
- 40:54Speaker 2: perspective and using these tools and breaking it down this
- 40:57Speaker 2: way versus trying to just say, I know who the
- 41:00Speaker 2: exact picks are if they knew that picked the lottery tickets,
- 41:02Speaker 2: win the power ball, pick the numbers, like figured, you
- 41:05Speaker 2: know everything, go do it. It's just a food for
- 41:08Speaker 2: thought thing. But it's to me, that's why I'm so
- 41:10Speaker 2: passionate about this and I love this side of the game.
- 41:13Speaker 2: It's it's it's so much more to think about each week,
- 41:16Speaker 2: and people would rather make excuses and bitch about it
- 41:18Speaker 2: when it's like there's other ways to look at it
- 41:20Speaker 2: and dissect it and break it down.
- 41:23Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, man, I agree. That's why
- 41:25Speaker 1: we're here here doing what we do. There's so much
- 41:28Speaker 1: more to it. And so, I mean, you can talk
- 41:29Speaker 1: about this stuff for days, but it's you know, it's
- 41:33Speaker 1: definitely important to really think through it all. And uh,
- 41:37Speaker 1: you know, I think you let it out perfectly there.
- 41:40Speaker 2: Yeah, what else do you want to go through these
- 41:41Speaker 2: tiers real quick? Like I guess we didn't. I don't
- 41:43Speaker 2: really care about the tens. We kind of broke that
- 41:45Speaker 2: one down already. Is there anybody in the nines.
- 41:48Speaker 1: You want to well, just to touch on the tens
- 41:50Speaker 1: real quick? I mean, you know, we've talked about these
- 41:53Speaker 1: guys a lot, but I mentioned it with Mori Kawa
- 41:55Speaker 1: like last week, like you haven't needed them for like
- 41:59Speaker 1: three months. And I'm not saying I'm fading him this week.
- 42:01Speaker 1: I played a little last week. I'll probably be under
- 42:04Speaker 1: the field on him this week because there is a
- 42:06Speaker 1: path where he finishes tenth and you do need him,
- 42:09Speaker 1: like and I do think he can finish tenth in
- 42:12Speaker 1: this field. But man like, compared to some of the
- 42:14Speaker 1: other top golfers, like I think he is, he's slipping
- 42:17Speaker 1: a little bit for sure, Keegan. I mean obvious concerns.
- 42:21Speaker 1: Big win last week, like can he get up for
- 42:24Speaker 1: the Rocket Classic? This week might be tough and you
- 42:28Speaker 1: gotta stay on him and you gotta make a ton
- 42:29Speaker 1: of birdies this week. I mean you got to. You
- 42:31Speaker 1: gotta really dig in and make some pots. Could he
- 42:34Speaker 1: do it? Sure. I mean, the argument for him is
- 42:37Speaker 1: definitely that ownership number. If he is gonna be lower
- 42:40Speaker 1: owned than the rest, I prefer can't lay over Keegan
- 42:44Speaker 1: and Morikawa at ten to two, But I'm gonna throw
- 42:47Speaker 1: Ben Griffin in there, and I prefer him above all
- 42:50Speaker 1: four of those guys. I don't care what the ownership is.
- 42:52Speaker 1: I think he is the best golfer in the field
- 42:56Speaker 1: this week. The way he's been playing recently, I think
- 42:58Speaker 1: he's taken his game to the now in my eyes,
- 43:01Speaker 1: I know, you know, some of these other guys are
- 43:03Speaker 1: way more accomplished than him. To me, he's number one.
- 43:06Speaker 1: People talk the one thing that everyone talks about.
- 43:08Speaker 4: Oh, in my model, blah blah blah, I modeled this
- 43:11Speaker 4: week in my model, like our guy James, notorious for
- 43:15Speaker 4: nailing the model guys when thinks they have a fucking
- 43:17Speaker 4: model like, they just say that shit.
- 43:19Speaker 1: No one really has a model. I don't give a fuck.
- 43:22Speaker 1: My model, says Ben Griffins won and it doesn't apply
- 43:24Speaker 1: any stats, nothing like to me. In the Hoop Model,
- 43:27Speaker 1: Ben Griffin's number one this week, and that's what I'm
- 43:30Speaker 1: rolling with. So the Hoop Model has Ben Griffin number one.
- 43:33Speaker 1: And can't lay two in this in this upperish range
- 43:38Speaker 1: going down to the rest of these guys in the
- 43:39Speaker 1: nine k's like, I feel like Grazerman is a guy
- 43:43Speaker 1: that could randomly go off here. I'm gonna continue on
- 43:45Speaker 1: with Cam Young. I know it wasn't great last week,
- 43:47Speaker 1: but man bombing gouge Cam Young, the game's kind of
- 43:51Speaker 1: turned a little bit like, I'm in on Cam Young,
- 43:54Speaker 1: gonna stay there, struggle with the DECKI and then you know, maybe,
- 43:59Speaker 1: you know, I probably I'd probably be fine with Harry Halls.
- 44:01Speaker 1: He still is, he still been playing well.
- 44:03Speaker 2: Harry Hall. Yeah, he's great last Yeah, yeah.
- 44:06Speaker 1: Yeah, in on Harry Hall for sure. So what does
- 44:08Speaker 1: what does the Tambeau model have for us this week?
- 44:11Speaker 2: I just know that you just reminded me of something
- 44:13Speaker 2: that hurts me to my core. Is that Cam Young
- 44:16Speaker 2: memory broke his freaking driver here and cost me two.
- 44:20Speaker 1: Hundred Oh shit, that's right, Yes, this was.
- 44:26Speaker 2: You know, Dennis can be in the in the Golf
- 44:28Speaker 2: World Championship on freaking Thursday or Friday. I guess Friday,
- 44:32Speaker 2: because you know, I guess I had hope on Thursday,
- 44:34Speaker 2: but not really uh, or on Friday after Thursday went bad,
- 44:37Speaker 2: but you know, it didn't end up well. But then
- 44:39Speaker 2: I had a sweat. I was winning like two hundred
- 44:40Speaker 2: grand till the end. It just needed him to stay
- 44:43Speaker 2: up there with ok Shay and those guys. It didn't
- 44:44Speaker 2: even matter about that. And then whatever hole it was,
- 44:47Speaker 2: I think it was like thirteen or fourteen, we were
- 44:49Speaker 2: there with phantas Sin My boy wind up coming second
- 44:54Speaker 2: and he needed Batia. I remember we were sitting on
- 44:56Speaker 2: hole fifteen and you can hear whole eighteen, which was
- 45:00Speaker 2: so annoying, and it was like we knew before it
- 45:02Speaker 2: happened on the TV. You heard the crowd be like, oh,
- 45:06Speaker 2: he knew right away. It cost him first, and then
- 45:08Speaker 2: it was I was up there for two hundred k
- 45:10Speaker 2: and then I'm getting twenty k or something instead. So
- 45:12Speaker 2: hopefully this year can make up for that and win
- 45:14Speaker 2: the two hundred k. But I think, you know, Decki,
- 45:17Speaker 2: Ben Griffin Hall, I like the top part more than
- 45:21Speaker 2: the bottom, and I get the love for like you know,
- 45:24Speaker 2: I mean maybe see I'm not a big cam young
- 45:26Speaker 2: guy anyway, but Ben Griffin, Decki Hall, I was gonna say,
- 45:29Speaker 2: I get the love for the Luke Clanton stuff and
- 45:31Speaker 2: obviously how good he is, and they priced him, you
- 45:33Speaker 2: know what they know about him. But I think there's
- 45:35Speaker 2: some guys in the sevens when we get down there
- 45:38Speaker 2: that can do similar things that you know, people might
- 45:42Speaker 2: be forgetting about. So I'm gonna save that. But who
- 45:45Speaker 2: do you like in the eight case here? Who are
- 45:46Speaker 2: some of the standouts in that range?
- 45:48Speaker 1: Uh? Okha, I mean, I know he hasn't been playing well,
- 45:51Speaker 1: but I'm interested in him. Got her up, appears to
- 45:53Speaker 1: be taking a step in the right direction. But my favorite,
- 45:57Speaker 1: I think, let me double chuck my model real quick
- 46:01Speaker 1: to see if it agrees with what I'm about to say.
- 46:04Speaker 1: They gotta check Hoops Model real quick.
- 46:07Speaker 2: Uh.
- 46:07Speaker 1: Matt Fitzpatrick is ranking well in Hoops Model this week,
- 46:10Speaker 1: so I'm playing well, kind of been on him recently.
- 46:14Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with it. Like, you know, the dude
- 46:17Speaker 1: has had a ton of success recent results of you know,
- 46:20Speaker 1: not recent recently he's been all right, but I guess
- 46:22Speaker 1: like the last six months have not been great for him.
- 46:26Speaker 1: I'm in on Matt Fitzpatrick. Probably my favorite here, maybe
- 46:29Speaker 1: a little Wyndom Clark, but the model, the model this
- 46:32Speaker 1: week's loving Matt Fitzpatrick.
- 46:35Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see what.
- 46:39Speaker 1: The issue I have with models. Everyone pretends like they
- 46:42Speaker 1: have their own secret sauce. They all say, oh, I
- 46:45Speaker 1: got this in my model this week. My model loves
- 46:47Speaker 1: so and so based on my has nothing. Yeah, it's
- 46:50Speaker 1: based off projection. But everyone pretends like they have some
- 46:53Speaker 1: secret sauce in their model, and none of them do. Like,
- 46:56Speaker 1: none of them. So when anyone says, oh, my model like,
- 46:58Speaker 1: you immediately know they're fraud.
- 47:00Speaker 2: At that point, immediate frauds. That's a the I R
- 47:06Speaker 2: S involved. Get everybody, where did the lawncare prayer in
- 47:09Speaker 2: your model? Who? That's high number one.
- 47:11Speaker 1: That's important. The lawncare model is very important. Got to
- 47:14Speaker 1: have the right calculations in there for sure.
- 47:16Speaker 2: Wyndham's back, Ross, That's that's the thing, man, Wyndham Big.
- 47:19Speaker 2: Everyone says he's back seventeenth last week, so yeah, he's
- 47:23Speaker 2: definitely back. Let me see here what else we got
- 47:26Speaker 2: kids out here watching? I was reading this one from Scooters,
- 47:28Speaker 2: So yeah, modeling and ownership usually a lot. Sometimes I
- 47:31Speaker 2: think less people are using models now than before. To
- 47:34Speaker 2: be honest, I think was definitely a bigger thing.
- 47:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you know what you're doing for sure.
- 47:39Speaker 1: But like when you hear all these guys talk like
- 47:42Speaker 1: they have have had zero success playing, like PGA DF
- 47:46Speaker 1: has talked about their personal model, you know, it's complete
- 47:49Speaker 1: dog shit because if they had the secret sauce in
- 47:52Speaker 1: their model, they'd be winning every week, right, they'd win
- 47:54Speaker 1: all these GPP contests every single week, and guess what,
- 47:58Speaker 1: it just doesn't happen, So fuck them mop.
- 48:00Speaker 2: There's also a lot of these nuances to it, like
- 48:03Speaker 2: you say, you know you talk about you know, someone's
- 48:05Speaker 2: outside just off the fairway so it doesn't count as this,
- 48:08Speaker 2: or you know, you look at this bucket because there's
- 48:10Speaker 2: gonna be x amount of shots, Well there's x amount
- 48:12Speaker 2: of shots from the other bucket too. But then also
- 48:15Speaker 2: it's like what was really included versus not or one
- 48:17Speaker 2: foot in, one foot out. Some of their best shots
- 48:19Speaker 2: came from one fifty one, but oh they ranked horrible
- 48:22Speaker 2: on approach this week from one to fifty two. Granular
- 48:26Speaker 2: for me, like, again, I used to do this stuff
- 48:28Speaker 2: when when I you feel like I had to. It
- 48:30Speaker 2: was like part of you know, working for a site,
- 48:31Speaker 2: you have to kind of have these spots. I love
- 48:34Speaker 2: now that we have ship a nation where we can
- 48:35Speaker 2: just do our own thing, do it our way, say
- 48:38Speaker 2: what we want to say, try and help others get better,
- 48:40Speaker 2: provide valuable content for an affordable price, and move on.
- 48:43Speaker 2: That's that's really what I appreciate, not having to do
- 48:46Speaker 2: sign up for the next big thing, or go over
- 48:48Speaker 2: tend to work for this company or this, that and
- 48:50Speaker 2: the other, and expose these things like you know, and
- 48:53Speaker 2: talk about different leagues of golf and all different stuff.
- 48:55Speaker 2: I just want to talk about DFS and helping people
- 48:58Speaker 2: win money at DFS. That's it. Batia for sure, that
- 49:02Speaker 2: you talked about we can we can bring that up
- 49:04Speaker 2: to that. Min Wu was the guy who's gonna bring up.
- 49:05Speaker 2: He's a guy that I think when you've got Fits
- 49:07Speaker 2: and Hogard, Batia and Thompson and those guys right there,
- 49:10Speaker 2: I mean got her up, they can't all get played.
- 49:13Speaker 2: So that's my point. I know, fenw w D. But
- 49:15Speaker 2: if you're like, you know, min Wu, Rasmus Fitzpatrick got
- 49:19Speaker 2: her up, that's four guys that are not Batia, Thompson
- 49:23Speaker 2: smally that I'll probably pop a little bit more too.
- 49:25Speaker 2: Not saying they're not good, just saying I always talk
- 49:28Speaker 2: about this and I look for this as well when
- 49:30Speaker 2: I'm sort of building out a pool or looking up
- 49:31Speaker 2: my lineups that I'm getting from Sabersim is kind of
- 49:34Speaker 2: the setup of who are the guys that people clearly like,
- 49:38Speaker 2: but they just can't commit to it. Right They're letting
- 49:40Speaker 2: the Davis Thompson show through at thirty five percent. Well
- 49:43Speaker 2: that's not giving them, that's giving them five to seven
- 49:46Speaker 2: percent on guys around him. I can play like the
- 49:48Speaker 2: contest SIM showed eighteen to twenty percent Davis Thompson and
- 49:52Speaker 2: now spread out to more of the guys. Others can't
- 49:55Speaker 2: play that I like in that range. So what one
- 49:59Speaker 2: did you have up there? Yeah?
- 50:02Speaker 1: I mean I'm not I mean, I'm definitely not into
- 50:04Speaker 1: the fat chicks, but I mean, I you know, the
- 50:07Speaker 1: people say they work a little bit harder for things,
- 50:09Speaker 1: So I mean it might, you know, it might, it
- 50:11Speaker 1: might pay off if you're you're into that sort of thing.
- 50:15Speaker 2: The top good good at the top for sure. Yeah,
- 50:19Speaker 2: the seven K range. What do we got going on here?
- 50:21Speaker 1: Who I like? First?
- 50:22Speaker 2: Actually, because I said a couple of guys, I just
- 50:25Speaker 2: wanted to bring up one thing quick and I'll let
- 50:26Speaker 2: you take it because there's so many guys in here,
- 50:28Speaker 2: but I think like another thing ron Klass posted about
- 50:32Speaker 2: was Thur Burns. I never get this name right, Thor
- 50:35Speaker 2: Michael Michael Thor, Thuri Jornson. He's a guy that he
- 50:39Speaker 2: said is healthy. I know he w d'd recently, but
- 50:41Speaker 2: he was a guy. Nikolai Hogard as another guy here,
- 50:46Speaker 2: Kurt Kitty, like some of these guys that others may
- 50:48Speaker 2: or may not play because of this range and just
- 50:50Speaker 2: not be popular. Then Jake Napp, you know, don't don't
- 50:54Speaker 2: sleep on him. Shut up to our guy DJ And
- 50:56Speaker 2: this was his thing was play Nap in fields where
- 50:59Speaker 2: there's a bunch of I mean not that this is
- 51:00Speaker 2: a bad field we're talking about off the top, but
- 51:02Speaker 2: it's definitely not a signature event. So Nap down at
- 51:05Speaker 2: seventy three hundred, I think can help you out as well.
- 51:08Speaker 1: Yeah, Nap, I mean the court. If you're looking at
- 51:10Speaker 1: a course, we just need to just go out there
- 51:11Speaker 1: and absolutely vomb it and you know, figure out the
- 51:13Speaker 1: second shot. I mean, he's perfectly the one thing that
- 51:16Speaker 1: definitely know a lot of teams are going to stop here,
- 51:18Speaker 1: like you can see it, no matter what sort of
- 51:20Speaker 1: build we did. They're not getting to the six k range,
- 51:22Speaker 1: so a lot of teams are stopping here. So a
- 51:25Speaker 1: lot of guys are going to be in lineups. Like,
- 51:28Speaker 1: the total ownership in this range is going to be
- 51:31Speaker 1: probably pretty large. I mean you can see it in
- 51:33Speaker 1: our exposures, you know, sixteen percent, twenty eight, twenty percent exposure,
- 51:39Speaker 1: a lot of guys right around ten. We got a fourteen, thirteen, twelve, ten, ten,
- 51:45Speaker 1: down here sixteen for Lee Hodges EVR. Where's our boy here?
- 51:50Speaker 1: He is AFR. Yeah, yeah, fourteen percent. You're saying we're
- 51:56Speaker 1: not not playing EVR this week. Man, if you're using
- 51:59Speaker 1: Sabers projections and ownership, you are getting some EVR fourteen
- 52:03Speaker 1: points so basically fifteen percent. And I will say I'm
- 52:07Speaker 1: playing EVR this week. So I'm I'm team Wren this week.
- 52:10Speaker 1: For sure. I'm in on EVR. But you're gonna get
- 52:12Speaker 1: a lot of guys in this range with some ownership,
- 52:14Speaker 1: the ones that kind of stand out to me good
- 52:18Speaker 1: with Gerard you talked about Olison, I'm gonna have a
- 52:22Speaker 1: lot of these guys. Taylor Moore, I think is fine.
- 52:24Speaker 1: I'll play some Tom Kim, Chris Kirk again. I don't know,
- 52:30Speaker 1: you know, if this course fits him super well, but
- 52:32Speaker 1: I know he's played here a lot. It seems like
- 52:34Speaker 1: he's here in the past.
- 52:36Speaker 2: Actually, And it's not to say there is gonna be
- 52:38Speaker 2: some grinders and guys that can find their way through,
- 52:41Speaker 2: so he would be one.
- 52:42Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'd definitely be fine fine with him this week.
- 52:47Speaker 1: I know again he's played there a lot. Twelfth at
- 52:49Speaker 1: the US Open. Yeah, good with him. Jasper Spenson. I
- 52:54Speaker 1: know nothing about the dude, but anytime I play him
- 52:56Speaker 1: seems like he does quite well. So I'll play him
- 53:00Speaker 1: Rio Jowie gosh, are we playing Max Homo. I'm gonna look,
- 53:05Speaker 1: let me check the model real quickly, see if I
- 53:07Speaker 1: can play them. Let me check them all. Who Yeah, No,
- 53:11Speaker 1: I don't think I can play Max Homa this week. Man,
- 53:13Speaker 1: don't think I can do it. Bridgeman.
- 53:15Speaker 2: I like Nap.
- 53:19Speaker 1: Davis Riley. It seems like a spot where Patrick Rogers
- 53:23Speaker 1: could could do well. Putnam Andrew Putnam at seventy one
- 53:28Speaker 1: been playing well cheap price tag. I feel like he's
- 53:31Speaker 1: played here two in the past. Yeah, I mean a
- 53:34Speaker 1: lot of cuts in a row. Had a six at
- 53:36Speaker 1: the Canadian Open. Uh really like Plutinam e VR we
- 53:40Speaker 1: talked about Gary Woodland. I'm gonna have a lot of
- 53:42Speaker 1: these guys. I mean, I do think the one thing
- 53:44Speaker 1: that I can say pretty confidently, I think there is
- 53:47Speaker 1: a pretty big drop off once you get into that
- 53:49Speaker 1: six k rings. There's not many guys down there that
- 53:52Speaker 1: that I want to play. And the nice thing about
- 53:55Speaker 1: a range that we know is gonna have a lot
- 53:58Speaker 1: of ownership. It's nice when there's a lot of options,
- 54:00Speaker 1: and there is a lot of options, so we should
- 54:02Speaker 1: see things spread out quite a bit.
- 54:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And then that's what I was saying,
- 54:05Speaker 2: because you know, I like Yagger up top, you know,
- 54:07Speaker 2: Nora and Pop, Stuart bo and Olison, Like, there's a
- 54:09Speaker 2: bunch of guys up top there. This one, though, I
- 54:11Speaker 2: don't know if I I mean this guy, Tom Kim
- 54:14Speaker 2: best by this guy, Circuit City Buddy bankrupt. This guy's
- 54:18Speaker 2: out of business. This is not good for Tom Kim.
- 54:21Speaker 2: He's been worse than Mari Kaua over the last four
- 54:23Speaker 2: months and he's can't this guy wait, he wants TGL
- 54:26Speaker 2: to come back so bad for a sim Tom sim
- 54:30Speaker 2: like they called him. I mean this this guy is
- 54:32Speaker 2: not getting me that excited. If he does well, good
- 54:35Speaker 2: for him. There's literally seventeen guys around him that I
- 54:37Speaker 2: would play, and it beats me.
- 54:39Speaker 1: It can't.
- 54:40Speaker 2: If it happens, it happens. I don't. I don't know
- 54:42Speaker 2: what I'll end up getting by the end of the week.
- 54:44Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like I just when I'm looking
- 54:46Speaker 2: at stuff and going through it, you know that one
- 54:48Speaker 2: is more for content purposes. But that's that's a tough click.
- 54:51Speaker 2: There's so many guys in this range. What do you
- 54:54Speaker 2: think people end up doing with Cam Davis? That's my question?
- 54:57Speaker 2: So what are we getting for Cam Davis? I know
- 54:59Speaker 2: we talked a lot of but Davis Thompson, but zero
- 55:05Speaker 2: seventy four dollars. He's just as bad as Tom Kim
- 55:09Speaker 2: right now. But at least he's got a couple of
- 55:10Speaker 2: top twenties mixed in. But he's got a win last
- 55:13Speaker 2: year here, a seventeenth, a fourteenth and a win two wins.
- 55:17Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, based on the projections, I mean,
- 55:20Speaker 1: he's projected much much lower. So I mean, you know,
- 55:23Speaker 1: when our initials get plugged in here, maybe it's a
- 55:26Speaker 1: little bit different. But whenever someone's this much lower than
- 55:28Speaker 1: everyone else in the range, you know, probably not getting
- 55:30Speaker 1: much of them, but that's the course history play, for sure.
- 55:33Speaker 1: If you're a believer of course history, you better you
- 55:35Speaker 1: better get some cam Davis in there.
- 55:38Speaker 2: And actually not even better than Homer. Maxholm has a
- 55:41Speaker 2: twelfth in the same Tom in the same frame that
- 55:46Speaker 2: Tom Kim doesn't have better than a thirty third. And
- 55:48Speaker 2: Max Holm has two miss cuts to Tom Kim's three,
- 55:53Speaker 2: So actually he's worse than Maxholmer. Right now, if you're
- 55:55Speaker 2: really looking for a quick breakdown, don't forget bring us
- 55:58Speaker 2: up now as we keep rolling through. But I'm gonna
- 56:00Speaker 2: give this away. It is a collector's piece now because
- 56:03Speaker 2: this is now the Rocket Classic, So this is the
- 56:06Speaker 2: Rocket Mortgage Classic, last flag. I'm gonna give this away.
- 56:11Speaker 2: All you gotta do is wait for the show to end,
- 56:13Speaker 2: or if you're watching it on replay, you gotta leave
- 56:15Speaker 2: a comment with the winner and they're scoring the tournament,
- 56:18Speaker 2: you know, fourteen under eighteen or whatever you put for it.
- 56:21Speaker 2: Just put that beside the name, so make sure you
- 56:24Speaker 2: have that in there. But yeah, the seven k's are loaded.
- 56:27Speaker 2: That's why you don't need the six k's. There's just
- 56:29Speaker 2: so many. But the thing is there's six K guys
- 56:31Speaker 2: that are gonna come through that have that upside I
- 56:34Speaker 2: liked earlier, by the way, in your seven K range
- 56:36Speaker 2: that Putnam calls interesting. But going down below, there's gotta
- 56:40Speaker 2: be guys down here.
- 56:41Speaker 1: I know.
- 56:43Speaker 2: There was a couple pot guid Yeah his vombit he's
- 56:48Speaker 2: what's his? Oh he's seven K flat too. Actually a
- 56:52Speaker 2: lot of the guys still at the low sevens. Like
- 56:53Speaker 2: it's tough down here. You don't necessarily need it. I
- 56:57Speaker 2: know Mao's gonna talk me into uh Thriston Lawrence Tomorrow.
- 57:00Speaker 1: That's his boy, for sure. He loves that dude. There's like,
- 57:04Speaker 1: I'm five fine playing like high Smith, Like I'm definitely
- 57:07Speaker 1: good with high Smith at sixty eight. We got a
- 57:10Speaker 1: little bit of billups I don't I wouldn't mind like
- 57:12Speaker 1: higgo here like I think he could. I don't know
- 57:15Speaker 1: if I'm playing these guys, but like, I'd be fine
- 57:18Speaker 1: going there. You guys know, I'd always like Spenson, Carson,
- 57:22Speaker 1: Young Shank, Like I would be fine getting a little
- 57:25Speaker 1: bit of these guys if I needed to, Like, I'm
- 57:28Speaker 1: not actively coming down here trying to find guys. Yeah,
- 57:33Speaker 1: remember the good old days when we could play Ben Silverman.
- 57:36Speaker 1: That was I think mining Kenny. Kenny loves Silverman as well,
- 57:39Speaker 1: but that's uh, he's about done for us. There's no
- 57:42Speaker 1: man I love him.
- 57:43Speaker 2: He's the guy that he chipped in and got me
- 57:44Speaker 2: the three seats to the.
- 57:45Speaker 1: Fatasy, three straight made cuts. Okay, sixty five hundred, twentieth
- 57:51Speaker 1: at the Myrtle Beach, seventieth at the Charles schwab In,
- 57:56Speaker 1: thirty six at the Canadian Open.
- 57:58Speaker 2: I guess here last year, and he's popping on our boy.
- 58:02Speaker 2: You can get it for free on the site. But
- 58:03Speaker 2: if you go PGA Value Report, Lee Aldric got in
- 58:07Speaker 2: their little little teaser for you, you'll see that report
- 58:11Speaker 2: for free anyway. But that that's a note.
- 58:13Speaker 1: For sure, I have to play it, might have to
- 58:15Speaker 1: play someone. There's one other name I saw down here.
- 58:17Speaker 1: There's Noah Goodwin, guy at sixty four hundred. Check the model.
- 58:23Speaker 1: Where does he rank in my model? This week? Playable
- 58:26Speaker 1: playable eighteenth at the Canadian Open, so coming off a
- 58:30Speaker 1: solid finish. So yeah, I mean again, not actively trying
- 58:33Speaker 1: to play anyone down here, but I'd be open to
- 58:36Speaker 1: a few darts for sure.
- 58:38Speaker 2: For sure, drag me into this.
- 58:39Speaker 1: He says, Yeah, I'm saying at one point, I'm saying,
- 58:44Speaker 1: at one point, we had a common, we had a
- 58:46Speaker 1: we had we had a common ally.
- 58:48Speaker 2: Toasty and you can play. Yeah, there's my boy mac
- 58:51Speaker 2: Meisner and Noah Goodwin is really polarizing for me, who
- 58:55Speaker 2: because it's tough from us a content standpoint. You can't
- 58:58Speaker 2: spell Noah Goodwin without win, but you also can't spell
- 59:01Speaker 2: no Ah Goodwin without no good So is he? You know,
- 59:03Speaker 2: we got to see, like which which one is it?
- 59:06Speaker 2: Or which side lesasso? Yeah, I know, you know, like
- 59:11Speaker 2: sam Is Skyhook, who's obviously a good dude and post
- 59:14Speaker 2: the ownership every week and he won one hundred k
- 59:16Speaker 2: last week, so shout out to my boy Skyler.
- 59:18Speaker 1: But he says, is that the good dude that dressed
- 59:22Speaker 1: like that on the golf course last week?
- 59:23Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he can pull it off.
- 59:27Speaker 1: You lose a lot of points when you show up
- 59:29Speaker 1: to a golf course dress like that.
- 59:30Speaker 2: In my book, oh, I'm the opposite side, not even
- 59:33Speaker 2: just you gotta be a swag er boss like level
- 59:36Speaker 2: five hundred.
- 59:37Speaker 1: Yeah, hell no, man, you show up with a golf short.
- 59:40Speaker 1: It's a golf polo and a hat and you march
- 59:43Speaker 1: your ass around that course. You can't dress up like that.
- 59:45Speaker 1: He's a good dude, don't get me wrong. I like
- 59:47Speaker 1: the guy. He's a good dude. But man like, that's
- 59:49Speaker 1: a that's a rough outfit at the course.
- 59:51Speaker 2: I thought, I think big time. I opposite. I even
- 59:56Speaker 2: like those guys that kick back golf with the golf jerseys.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: I think it's insane that people go to the course
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: dressed like a golfer, like, what are you gonna rock?
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: The shoulder pads and the helmet. When you go to
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: a football game, like you ain't playing, You ain't playing,
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: you're watching, you're a fan, get a jersey on dress
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: how you want to dress. I think I'm complete opposite
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: on golf course attire. You dress to play, you dress
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: in golf clothes when you're playing golf, when you're watching it.
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: I think it's insane that you can't just be yourself
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: and wear whatever you want to wear, like that's that's
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: the fun in it.
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: Well you can, you definitely can, but man like, there's
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: no way, there's no way I would ever go to
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: a course dressed like that. But good for him. I
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: only one one hundred thousand, so it makes it a
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: lot easier to do that.
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: It's if you can't pull it off, that's that's mean
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: I couldn't do.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: I definitely couldn't pull that shit off. There's no way.
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: I'm trying to think in my head how much money
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: someone would have to pay me to dress like that
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: and walk around a golf course. It would be a lot.
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: It would definitely be a lot of money.
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: String to the strip, strip club. Get a string and
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: a bro, walk into the strip club. Just dress the
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: same as them.
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: That's what you're there, better than wearing the uh sweatpants
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: with no onies to the.
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: This is another good point too, Scooter brings up. I mean,
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: obviously got to pick your stands on these spots, but
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: there's only so many of them. But guys like oh,
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: they'll say, oh, it's not enough data in the system yet.
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: We haven't quite figured it out to get enough data
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: on it. And I do, I'm the sample sized guy.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: But it's like, if you want to play Luke Klant,
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: if you want to play Thorbe, if you want to
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: play you know, a guy like Les Sasso, If you
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: want to play those guys, that's that's the whole point.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: You can get ahead of it. You can find it
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: and get ahead of it. So yeah, I just think
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: that's another you know, key point to it.
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: There.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: Just we're you know, talking about everything today. But any
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: anything else, whop you want to talk about before we
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: get out of here. This is a fun one. I
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: like breaking this stuff down. It is your hometown up
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: to you. Any anything else you got here? Oh what
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: else did I see?
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: Oh?
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: No, that that was something else projection? I was on
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: the Ben Silverman thing. But go ahead, any anything else? Oh?
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: Hoop FROs on us hoop FROs Man. Last call. No,
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