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  Speaker 1: Happy Thursday, everybody, first up to tonight. Welcome to another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the Thursday Night Sports Are Change, presented by
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  Speaker 1: Hockey Operations LLC. The owner you see him is in yellow.
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  Speaker 1: His name is Mike Santosi's my co host. I glad
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  Speaker 1: to have you on, Mike again. This hockey thing with us,
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. Our goal to educate and
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  Speaker 1: we do that, don't we. Mike, Yeah, looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: another good show. Scott, and of course got Stephen Ruschall
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  Speaker 1: who's joining us tonight normally as a professor of the people.
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  Speaker 1: Since it was Memorial Day we didn't have one. He
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  Speaker 1: gets to sit in with Mike and I had talk
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of hockey in the song. We have
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  Speaker 1: a lot more to talk about, more of a personal show,
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  Speaker 1: but we're gonna get it going. The Florida Panthers aren't
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  Speaker 1: finished yet, without a doubt, So we'll begin with the
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  Speaker 1: Panthers that are going to be drifting around the country
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  Speaker 1: and the world and coming up with all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: interesting topics for everybody in the chat room to go
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  Speaker 1: out there. Ain't calling mat on With that said, Stanley
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  Speaker 1: Top updates Panthers eliminated as Carolina Hurricane Flurida one, winning
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  Speaker 1: last night five to three. So obviously you see the
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  Speaker 1: updates here. So it's worth noting though that this could
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  Speaker 1: be the final series for unrestricted free agent Aaron blick
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  Speaker 1: eck Plaid. It's the Panthers surs straight dripped to the
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  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Finals. They were there in twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 1: when the loss of the Vegan Vegas Golden Night four
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  Speaker 1: to one. Last year, in a classic twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: they beat the Mtonton Oilers four to three. And this year,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know who they're gonna play at. Maybe we'll
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  Speaker 1: know tonight, maybe we won't. So let's talk about the
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  Speaker 1: Panthers run right now, Mike. In terms of what you've
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  Speaker 1: seen so far, this team has really shown an awful
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  Speaker 1: lot of plays during the postseason, hobbling into the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: but they seem to have played better as the tournament
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  Speaker 1: has gone on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they If you look back on it now, it
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  Speaker 2: it looks like they played it right, meaning, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they went to the finals two years in a row.
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  Speaker 2: I think most people, including myself, were questioning, you know,
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  Speaker 2: how they were going to be able to get through
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  Speaker 2: another long season and uh and a hard playoff to
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  Speaker 2: get to the finals for a third year in a row,
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  Speaker 2: because that's that's the most challenging thing when you're playing
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  Speaker 2: that deep into the summer, I mean early into you know,
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  Speaker 2: the first of July every year, and then you've got
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  Speaker 2: injuries and things that happen when you go that far
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  Speaker 2: that you you've got to recuperate from. But the Panthers, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they did what so many classic teams in
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  Speaker 2: the past have done, and they understood they were a
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  Speaker 2: good team. They understood that unless something crazy happened, they
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  Speaker 2: were going to make the playoffs, and they didn't sell
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  Speaker 2: out trying to finish first overall or win their division.
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  Speaker 2: They tried to make sure that when it came playoff time,
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  Speaker 2: you know, whether they were the home team or the
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  Speaker 2: visiting team, it didn't matter. They just wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: healthy and ready to go. And I think that a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things they did that really helped now when
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  Speaker 2: you look back in hindsight. Number one, Matthew could Chook's
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  Speaker 2: injury in the Four Nations, they you know, in February,
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  Speaker 2: they kept him out the rest of the season. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if anybody knows how serious the injury was
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming it was. But most importantly he got all
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  Speaker 2: that rest and he came into the playoffs, started at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of the playoffs and it's never looked back.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was huge for them. And then they
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  Speaker 2: and then they did a couple of things to fortify
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  Speaker 2: their team. You know, teams that win the Cup usually
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  Speaker 2: don't go after the big time forward. You know, we've
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  Speaker 2: seen this happen year and year out where teams go
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  Speaker 2: after Patrick Kine, the Rangers a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 2: and last year Carolina went after Genseil, And it seems
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  Speaker 2: to work out. The teams that do well are the
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  Speaker 2: teams that make the deadline deals for those depth players
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  Speaker 2: at forward and those defensemen that fortify their d And
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  Speaker 2: that's that's what these guys did right Florida. They went
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  Speaker 2: out and they got a Brad marsha On who really
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  Speaker 2: for them only has to play a second but really
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  Speaker 2: even a third line role and gives them great depth,
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  Speaker 2: great experience, plays their style game real gritty. And then
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  Speaker 2: the guy that you mentioned a few minutes ago, ex Glad,
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  Speaker 2: is probably on his way out. He also self a
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  Speaker 2: nice rest for another reason, because of these the performance
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  Speaker 2: enhancing drug suspension, but it gave him a nice three
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  Speaker 2: week rest or so before the playoff as well. And
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  Speaker 2: what the Panthers did is they went out and got
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  Speaker 2: his replacement in Seth Jones. You know, a guy that's
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  Speaker 2: only a year younger. I mean, people forget he's been
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  Speaker 2: around for eleven years that at Plaid is only twenty
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  Speaker 2: nine years old, but Jones is only twenty eight. Same stock.
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  Speaker 2: Another big guy, Ano, the right handed shot of the
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  Speaker 2: blue line, and he's already signed beyond this year. So
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  Speaker 2: he allows them to let Clad's money go and hopefully
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  Speaker 2: maybe resign one of the other guys Bennett or somebody
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  Speaker 2: else they want to keep in the fault. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they've they've done it right. You know. Can they get
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  Speaker 2: through one more series? We'll see. It'll be interesting, especially
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  Speaker 2: if it's Edmonton in a rematch.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I still think that they can retain Bennett. I
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  Speaker 1: really do. I don't think Bennett really wants to go,
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  Speaker 1: but he's still going to test his whares on the
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  Speaker 1: free agent market. He likes it there. But that plans
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  Speaker 1: another story. If you had to take an educated guest,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously it's only an educated guest, Anyways, where do
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  Speaker 1: you think would be the best fit for Aaron Eckland.
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  Speaker 2: I think Eric eck Plad at this point, especially if
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  Speaker 2: he wins the Second Cup. But he's won a Stanley Cup.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna go where he can get the most money,
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  Speaker 2: and that doesn't necessarily mean the highest salary. It may
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  Speaker 2: be to another place where they don't have a state
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  Speaker 2: income tax, another place in the United States where he
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  Speaker 2: can he can save on some tax money, which will
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  Speaker 2: get him the most money in the end. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure Toronto will make a play for him. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they're always looking for guys like that, especially you know,
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  Speaker 2: guys that are from Canada or or Ontario. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's a I think that's a potential landing spot for him.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be I'd be shocked to see him back with
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  Speaker 2: the Panthers, though I don't. I don't think that's in
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  Speaker 2: the cards.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't either. And another thing I should point
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  Speaker 1: out that will turn over to Steven and I have
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  Speaker 1: another interesting fact that came up and I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about too. T n t NHL analyst Paul Bissonette
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  Speaker 1: ripped Pronto after Game sevens lost to Florida. He says
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  Speaker 1: that they lost every single put banele pathetic performances as
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  Speaker 1: men versus the boys, completely unprepared. So the bottom line
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  Speaker 1: is it certainly looked like the Leafs were flat in
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  Speaker 1: game seven. I'll give them that. But before I do
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  Speaker 1: that and turn it over to you, and I have
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  Speaker 1: to wonder though, what Paul is saying about the Carolina hurricane.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna tell them that they're go out there and
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  Speaker 1: they're unprepared as well they because now they the state
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  Speaker 1: of Florida itself has had six straight Stanley Cup finals.
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  Speaker 1: Josha will get you in just a moment. Want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure we clean up a point. So you've had
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  Speaker 1: the Florida pants is going there three straight years. Half
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  Speaker 1: day lightety three. But what are your thoughts about the
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  Speaker 1: critical nature of this and that calling out the Toronto
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  Speaker 1: Maple Leafs.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I thought, and we mentioned this song
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  Speaker 2: shows before, the biggest problem the Leafs have is they
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  Speaker 2: don't have any leadership. And what I mean by that
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  Speaker 2: is leadership on the ice with players, lightership in the
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  Speaker 2: dressing with players. I mean, Bruby came over. He's a
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  Speaker 2: good leader as a coach, but you need guys that
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  Speaker 2: can lead on the ice, they just don't have that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Austin Matthews not a leader. You know, Mitch
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  Speaker 2: Marnin not a leader. Talented players, but it takes more
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  Speaker 2: than that. I mean, you look at the turnaround the
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  Speaker 2: Panthers had when they traded Johnson huberta talented player and
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  Speaker 2: came up with Matthew Kacuk. Talented player, but really has
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  Speaker 2: that grit and that leadership on the ice. I think
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  Speaker 2: that that's what the least miss most of all. And
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  Speaker 2: I still believe if mister McDavid gets his Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 2: in Edmonton, then he will become what Mark Messier was
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  Speaker 2: to the Ranges, he will become to the Maple Leafs.
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  Speaker 2: I think he'll take on that challenge and he'll be
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  Speaker 2: exactly the leader that the Leafs need to make a
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  Speaker 2: real run at a cup.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned that last week, Glad you brought it up
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  Speaker 1: this week two. I really am Mark Messier. What he
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  Speaker 1: did to the Rangers and what Connor but David to
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  Speaker 1: do to Toronto, that to me is legendary. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get to learn fact in a moment, but I was
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  Speaker 1: going to.
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  Speaker 2: The one thing I'll just say quickly. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: can see the growth in McDavid as a leader from
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  Speaker 2: last year to this year. I mean, he's always been
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  Speaker 2: supremely talented, you know, one of, if not the most
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  Speaker 2: talented guy in the game right now, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: he really learned a lot from that seven game loss
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  Speaker 2: to the Panthers in the finals last year, and he
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  Speaker 2: came back a different person. Uh, you know, and now
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  Speaker 2: he's got that leadership role and he's holding the other
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  Speaker 2: players accountable on his team, and that's why they've been
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  Speaker 2: such a surprise in the playoffs this year, especially after
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  Speaker 2: the first round falling behind two o to Lakay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, turn over to Steven josh o'dors in the house.
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  Speaker 1: Tiberuski's in the house as well. I'm sure have some questions.
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  Speaker 1: What were we talking about. We're talking about your favorite
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  Speaker 1: team at the moment, the Florida Panthers. We'll have four
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  Speaker 1: things you get to Joshua. If you missed a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of what we had earlier, I know you'll you'll
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  Speaker 1: tune in a little bit earlier. The only thing you
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  Speaker 1: pretty much missed is that we talked about the panthers
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  Speaker 1: third straight trip to the finals. You know, about the
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  Speaker 1: first two visits or see where they land with the third. Also,
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  Speaker 1: just to recap a little bit, this is a sixth
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  Speaker 1: straight year that a team from the state of Florida
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  Speaker 1: is going to the Stanley Cup Finals Tampa Bay Light
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  Speaker 1: and you have the first ring out of Panthers there
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  Speaker 1: as well. That gives you a basic summary. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: you know Paul Bisson that comment which I saw you
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  Speaker 1: just popped in earlier, so that pretty much gives it
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  Speaker 1: to you. Aaron I Plaid, Josh Mike Xanto's figures this
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  Speaker 1: is his last rodeo with the Panthers taking the money
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  Speaker 1: where we're going to go. That sums it up. But
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  Speaker 1: you can listen to it again there here, so you also,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Steven's been waiting, patient, Lisa, go.
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  Speaker 3: Ahead, listen. I'm not surprised. You know, the Florida Panthers
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  Speaker 3: are doing their thing. You know, I've seen Surgery Bravlowski,
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  Speaker 3: you know, first years here in Philadelphia, and he was
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  Speaker 3: an outstanding goaltender. Once you nail that goaltender around, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you can start putting pieces together and make runs. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, obviously, as you already stated, the state of
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  Speaker 3: Florida has been been owning the uh the the Eastern
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  Speaker 3: Conference the latest six years or so, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: not not surprising that to see Bob in the Panthers
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  Speaker 3: making a run here. I hope they complete it. But
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  Speaker 3: on the other side of that, I kind of don't.
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  Speaker 3: I want to see Connor McDavid get his cup. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's uh, he's been the one of the more underrated,
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  Speaker 3: underappreciated NHL stars over the last ten years. Everyone talks
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  Speaker 3: about ov everyone talks about about cry Baby Crosby. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we listen, it's his time, regardless of contract where he
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  Speaker 3: could potentially wind up in the off season. Uh, I'm definitely,
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  Speaker 3: I'm definitely down to see uh Edmonton finally get over
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  Speaker 3: that that hump and and and bring a cup there
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  Speaker 3: because we ain't seen one since the Gretzky d so
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  Speaker 3: it's been it's been a while since Edmonton has had
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  Speaker 3: their championship as well. But more along the lines, I
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  Speaker 3: want to see Connor McDavid you know, complete his tass
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  Speaker 3: from you know, uh. Yeah, as Mike was saying, he
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  Speaker 3: had that game game set seven, you know, punch to
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  Speaker 3: the gut man. It's it's a tough thing to bounce
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  Speaker 3: back from. Some guys never bounce back from. It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: matter what sport we're talking about. Game seven, meltdown, can
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  Speaker 3: it can almost end and the guy's confidence his his
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  Speaker 3: career in some senses of what they were. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think Connor is one of those guys who folds. So
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  Speaker 3: it's uh for me, I would love to see Edmonton
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  Speaker 3: kind of a spoil Florida's. Uh, Florida is a little
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  Speaker 3: run here, but it's a it's a it's a fun
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  Speaker 3: time when we're getting down to the last two teams. Man,
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  Speaker 3: it's uh, we'll see who's going to be the official ones.
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  Speaker 3: But I like Edmonton at being able to take it overall.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't mean I don't have a little saw spot for Bob,
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  Speaker 3: but it's it's one of those things where here we're
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  Speaker 3: getting we're getting down to it right the late last
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  Speaker 3: two teams that we're getting down ready to talk about championships.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of the fun times about this time as
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  Speaker 3: basketball and hockey wines down, we get to see, you know,
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  Speaker 3: who were the final two teams to battle it out.
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  Speaker 3: It's a it's a fun time in the sports world.
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  Speaker 3: I would say it that way.
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  Speaker 1: Well, according to CBS Sports. I have a really good
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  Speaker 1: stat and I mean this is really worth talking about.
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  Speaker 1: This is the Florida Panthers joined the National Hockey League
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three, so according to CBS Fours, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety three, the Forest Stanley Cup final appearance had thirty
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  Speaker 1: one seasons. Think about it now, that is more Stanley
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  Speaker 1: Cup Finals than each of these NHL franchises. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to read them very slowly. Three Stanley Cup Final appearances
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  Speaker 1: and fifty two seasons for the Calgary Flames, three Stanley
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  Speaker 1: Cup Final appearances in fifty seven seasons for the La Kings,
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  Speaker 1: three Stanley Cup appearances in forty five seasons for the
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  Speaker 1: Colorado Avalanche, three Stanley Cup Final appearances and fifty four
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  Speaker 1: seasons for the Vancouver Canucks. Two Stanley Cup Final appearances
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  Speaker 1: for the Anaheim Ducks. Two Stanley Cup appearances in fifty
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  Speaker 1: four seasons for the Buffalo Savers, who God only knows
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  Speaker 1: how long it's going to be much longer because they
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  Speaker 1: still can't figure it out up there. The only thing
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  Speaker 1: nice about that is people in Buffalo are night but
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  Speaker 1: Niagara Falls is even prettier. So if you get frustrated,
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  Speaker 1: go back to the falls and win a couple of
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  Speaker 1: months at the casino. You'll be wow. Carolina Hurricanes two
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  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Final appearances then forty five seasons. Even the
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  Speaker 1: Sheeton Capitals get this, fifty seasons, they've only had two
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  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Final appearances. Now we go on to the
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  Speaker 1: Vegas Gold Nights. I love their percentages. At least two
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  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Final appearances in eight seasons. We talk about
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  Speaker 1: off the dynamite start. Vegas is de ver Nashville one
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  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Final appearance in twenty six seasons, the Ottawa
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  Speaker 1: Senators one Stanley Cup appearance in thirty two seasons. Not
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  Speaker 1: about those San Jose Sharks that we're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about shortly in thirty three seasons, so one in thirty three,
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  Speaker 1: the Winnipeg Jets zero Stanley Cup appearances in twenty five seasons,
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  Speaker 1: Columbus Bluejacket zero Stanley Cup Final appearances in twenty four seasons,
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  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Wild zero Stanley Cup Finals appearances in twenty
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  Speaker 1: four seasons, and Seattle zero appearances in four seasons. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: now we have the Utah Mammoth Mike. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about that. But you know, I want to ask
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  Speaker 1: you a quick question though, Steven. We're your thoughts about
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  Speaker 1: the new nickname for the Utah and mammoth that I'll
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  Speaker 1: even bring that up real quickly. We get we get
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  Speaker 1: both your opinion, but we'll Mike. The Panthers have done
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  Speaker 1: what they've had to do as an expansion team. This
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  Speaker 1: is their first rodeo. How do you want for their
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  Speaker 1: numbers back compared to the other teams I just mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: Well, nineteen ninety three first Panther season was also the
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  Speaker 2: last time a Canadian team won the Stanley Cup, which
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  Speaker 2: was the Montreal Canadiens. So the league has grown, and
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  Speaker 2: as the league grows, it gets more and more difficult
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  Speaker 2: to make the Stanley Cup finals or even win the
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  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup. The odds are just the odds are moving
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  Speaker 2: in the wrong direction. You know, if you really want
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  Speaker 2: to look at it realistically, if there's thirty two teams
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  Speaker 2: in the league, expectations should be you win the Stanley
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  Speaker 2: Cup once out of every thirty two years. So the
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  Speaker 2: Panthers or had to schedule, and so are a few
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  Speaker 2: other teams. It's getting tougher and tougher, right, I mean
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  Speaker 2: the Toronto Maple LEAs have never won a third round
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  Speaker 2: playoffs series in the history of the of the Toronto
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  Speaker 2: maple LEAs because the last time that they went and
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  Speaker 2: won a Stanley Cup in the sixties, there were only
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  Speaker 2: two rounds of playoffs, right, and there were only six
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  Speaker 2: teams and what teams made it and that's what it was.
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  Speaker 2: It's just there's more teams, the sports bigger than ever,
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  Speaker 2: there's more parody. The game has changed. Unlike other sports,
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  Speaker 2: well like other sports, I say, I should say except
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  Speaker 2: for baseball, in that you know, until the mid nineties,
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four to be exact, there were teams that
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  Speaker 2: played in different sized rinks. There were different sized ice surfaces.
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  Speaker 2: So just baseball, where you know, you had some stadiums
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  Speaker 2: with had a short right field and some had a
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  Speaker 2: short left field and dimensions to the park, so you
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  Speaker 2: you know, you had a different lineup that you played
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  Speaker 2: or different pitchers that you pitched. Hockey standardized standardized the
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  Speaker 2: ice surface in nineteen ninety four, so a year after
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  Speaker 2: the Panthers came to being, and that's really that, along
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  Speaker 2: with standardizing the size of the glass around the arena,
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  Speaker 2: putting the team benches on the same side because it
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  Speaker 2: used to be that the team penalty benches were next
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  Speaker 2: to the home team's bench. All these advantages have kind
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  Speaker 2: of gone away, and so so has the home ice advantage,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: if you will, in hockey.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So I think.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: That's that's a big reason why you see this happening.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: But the Panthers are just they've just built a really good,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: really good team. They're built for the playoffs, the style
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: of the playoffs, and I think more than anything, as
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I said, you know with a while back, they have
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: understood that with all the things we just talked about,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: they just need to get in the playoffs, be healthy,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: and be ready to play playoff style hockey. And it
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter if they finished first in their division, or
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: fourth in their division, or first overall, eighth in their conference.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Just for them, they just need to get in because
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: they already know that once they get in they can
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: they get a chance to win.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you compare their numbers of four in
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: thirty one years versus these other teams, and they're that's
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: pretty impressive when you think of the totality of it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But I don't want that number to get to my
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: head either, because they've been great lately. But they've been
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: dormant for a lot of years. The one thing they
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: did right is where they built a stadium in Sunrise
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: or successful in Prower County, so all three counties access it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: They did well there. Now they've built a new practice
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: facility at the War Memorial Auditorium. They've done well. And
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: another thing that will further back up your point too, Mike,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: is the fact that the Miami Marlins have two World
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Series championships and they got in ya the wild card,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: no matter how you get in, just went and that's
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: what the Marlins have done actually have to so that
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: But again I guess we can both agree though, that
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: is a pretty impressive run when you compare what these
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: other teams are.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Would you do three years ago? They were one in
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: twenty eight years, So that's true.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: That's true. Right, for a while, they had a hard
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: time winning a game in the.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Playoffs groove right now they're in their groove right now.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: We saw Tampa go through it, We saw the Chicago
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Blackhawks go through it, we saw the Detroit Letherings go
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: through it. All teams we saw we saw Stevens Philadelphia
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Flyers go through it in the seventies, right The point is,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: when you're in that groove, you know, whether it's for
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: five years or ten years, you've got to make it last.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: You've got to make the right personnel decisions and now
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the salary caps part of that, and make that last,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: you know, as long as possible, so that every year
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: you've got a chance at winning the Cup. Because you
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: know there's some teams now, you know, Buffalo, you mentioned Scott.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're so far away from winning a Cup
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: that you wonder how they're going to get out of
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: that hole. You know, when I think when things are good,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: when you're when you're in this situation that the Panthers
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: are in, now, you got to make it last. You know,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: you bring up a guy like Bennett, you know, will
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: he stay for the last less money? Yeah, he might,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: you know because in addition to the nice weather, in
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: addition to the no state income tax and he can
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: save on he's got a chance to win. And ultimately,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I think not everyone, but most of these players, that's
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: what they really want to play for. They want to
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: win championships, right and many sport they they want to
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: win championships. And you got a chance to win it
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: down here, and so if that means you take a
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: little less money to stay with the organization where you're happy.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: You maybe your wife's happy.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: That's what well you mentioned in the last week though,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: show that Dale Talent laid out the groundwork, Pilsedo finished
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: off the job, and that's what they've done. So I'll
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: ask you, what are your thoughts about the Utah Mammoth.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I know they wanted to have yety, but they were
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: not able to get that worked out. But the mammoth
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: and then here's a little cybar Well. I read out
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: there that they'd be a good rival for the National Predators,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and you consider the violent nature of both animals. So
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: let's have a little lot of fun with this one
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: as one of those two topics. Can but you're your
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: old thoughts about the youth the name of the Utah Mammoth.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, you could you can. I'm not
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: a big I'm not a big I don't care what
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: people name their teams. What I care about is the
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: culture that they build for their organizations, right. I mean,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of teams that have in all sports
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: that have names that aren't particularly aggressive or tough, but
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean their organization isn't respected or they don't
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: you know, they don't play a certain way. So mammoth.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: If it's mammoth, it's mammoth. Whatever I think people are,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think they care what the name of the
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: team is as long as they're competitive and and they
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: give some people in that area something to be up,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, uh, they need it there. The
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Jazz haven't done it for them.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Sure, all right, see we put a lot out there
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I'll note, you know, as Mike mentioned my flyer that
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: was nineteen seventy five, they've been there twice since then.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Hasn't even been close. It hasn't been close. It's been
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: it's been an absolute drought. It's been terrible here in
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Philadelphia over the last ten years. I know, you know,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: we did have a run, but we ran into the
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: that that Blackhawks team that that was, that was that
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: was that they were they were something else. But Patrick
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Caine and and Jonathan tayz and and them guys were
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: they they did not let let my Flyers take home
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: the cup. And and before that was a four not
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: beat sweet beating that that the Detroit Red Wings gave us.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: So it's Uh, broke my heart. You broke your heart.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: You all what the it's sarcastic. Really, it broke Eric
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Lindross's heart. It tore apart the legion of Doom. So
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I mean it broke the Philadelphians hard because that was
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: that was the beginning of the end of of what
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: was supposed to be an amazing career for Eric Lindrows.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: But let's kind of get back to the point. Uh
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: uh you saw Mammoth Well, I mean, you know, Mike Guard,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: he touches it. It doesn't really matter what the name
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: is at the end of the day. The Flyers, what
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: the hell's a flyer?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, you know, regardless, Nashville Predators, Las Vegas
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Golden Like, it doesn't matter. Just bringing good people, bring
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: a good organization, get give the home the hometown fans
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: something to cheer about, be happy about, be proud about,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: build a culture and and see see how how your
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: organization grows. It's uh, the naming of things is so relevant.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: It's it's part of the thing that gets me, Like,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: like as as wocas we've been watching all these name
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: changes in Major League Baseball and football and stuff like that,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: just like you're taking away from the culture that was
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: that was built, that it was initially built around. It's
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: it's silly. So regardless if it's the Mammoth, you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I know, you know, we got got rony Quack and
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: they're talking about the Eddie whatever. It's whatever, it's gonna be.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Like listen, let's enjoy the fact that we do get.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I'm glad that we get we're getting more of these
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: uh Midwest teams uh uh organization, some some love. You know.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I feel baseball is missing out completely weight waste in
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: a way. With the Marlins down there in Miami. I
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: think it should be almost done. Sets you know, set
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: send them at to Nebraska or something like that, like
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: where you know, places where baseball is beloved and and
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: things of that nature. Oh even Utah, give them a
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: baseball team. But it's it's one of these things, man,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: it's just whatever the name is. You know, Mike had
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: already beat on and I'm going to get to need build,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: build a culture, build something that that that you're going
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: to get people to rally behind, not just the fans,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: but that the athletes you bringing so well.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: If you're looking at Jerseys, I will admit and I
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and I don't care a lot of name names either.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I got cats and name or whatever I name them. Animals,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: they don't care. They only think food and rest and attention.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: That's it. You don't have to put them through college.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: You don't have to do any of that stuff. But
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I will say I am looking forward to the say
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: to seeing the day that we have the Utah mammo.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Thinking on the National Predator, we'll see what jersey is
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a better looking one, let alone than animal. All Right,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: we'll stay in a more serious thing though a little
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: bit in Philadelphia because I may first twenty twenty five
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the legacy of Ed Van Dam who passed away plate
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: of years with the broad Street Bullies and as Steve
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: reiterrayed the expansion Philadelphia Flyers won to Stanley Cups. What
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: are your best recollections of Ed van Mm? He was he.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen to The first thing that comes to
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: my mind is the Soviet game. He he he made
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: an absolute impact on that. Obviously he was a part
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: of those those broad Street Bullies and you know, obviously
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: that was just just a little bit before my time.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: But it's just something that uh, you know, my grandmother
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: and My stepdad used to used to, you know, pull
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: up old tapes and and show show me stuff. And
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Ed was a wrecking ball.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: He was somebody if you wanted to send a message
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: and and uh you didn't want you didn't want the
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: hammer to uh to beat up on him at Vantam,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: but didn't have a problem taking or run a guy
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: and tell telling him what the business was going to be.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: He you know, he's one of these these early guys
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: who were he he was somebody that correct people like
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: we we talk about police in the game and anyone
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: was taking liberties with your guys more than I more
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: than likely had. Van Amp was probably the first one
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: to take a run back at one of yours. So
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: he was part of that old guard man that that
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: we're seeing phased out here in the NHL. But uh,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: you know, unfortunately, you know, his time on this earth
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: has come to an end. But uh, he will always
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: be remembered here in Philadelphia and he will always be beloved.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: What about you, Mike, Yeah, he was. He was just
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: a tough s ob and he he was not only
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: a part of that Flyers culture, but he was one
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: of the leaders of it. I mean, he was you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: he was one of the veteran guys back there in
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: the blue line that sort of set the tone in
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: and from him came the guys, you know, whether it
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: was DuPont or Cileski or Schultz or any of these
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: other guys, and they they really the genesis of it,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: The genesis of that style came from a vantage he was.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: He was the guy. I mean he I don't know,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: but to me, for those those of us that remember
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: old time wrestling, not the not college dressing, which I adore,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: but old time wrestling, he just reminds me of George
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the animals Steel. I looked at him and I just
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: thought he was the animal Steel on on skates. He
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: was just that. He just had that that growl to him.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: And uh yeah, I think Steven's one hundred percent right.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: He he was probably the cornerstone of building that culture
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: for that Flyers team in the seven that was not
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: only not only a really good hockey team, but a
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: really tough hockey team. Yeah.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Well, you have David Hammer Schultz on there fighting everybody inside.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised he's not on your bare knuckles show.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I mean all the time that it's not easy to
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: get these guys, man.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: You're racking them up. I'm proud of this guy. I'll
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: tell you one thing might to Stephen credit. He come
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: up with a pretty dynamite guest on the inside the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: pictid show. He pulls people on like bent through. We
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: got our Christine Jones, I tell you. And now Marvin
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Powell joined the party. Who knows what Steven's gonna come
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: up with? And all due respect, Mike, Stephen Reichshaw to
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: me is my right hand man behind this operation. That's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: why I'm putting him on the night with you as
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: we're looking forward to bring you and him and I
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: on Monday night. Well we can do a professor and people.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Who knows I might actually cancel the professor and people
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: and do a real and rare on that one, And
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that way it'll get Stephen on audio as well. That's
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: something to think about. The real and rare and we're
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: gonna do all kinds of stuff. So Steven, think about it.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: You'll make your iHeartRadio debut when we pull that show
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: on a rime time. How's that? Somebody so? But we
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: all due respect, I take it tall interesting. Now get this.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I like to see the conflict a nice. I bought
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a couple of videotapes at the Philadelphia in Spectrum when
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I was at that Jordan Philadelphia game. It was I
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: still love watching it. I even watch some of those
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: things on YouTube and it's unbelievable. Hey listen, man, anytime
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you can play God Bless America and you have Kate
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Kate Smith, Kate Smith, thank you. That's pretty good. I mean,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the Russian got beat up and nobody played on that
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: brand of hockey, and that's one thing they reunited the country.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: So I'll leave it at that. We could talk all
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: day long and tie them into anywhere, but I'm going
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: to ask an off the wall question. Mike and I
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: have one more Philadelphia topic. I want to get to.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Candy goes to a station break, but this caught my
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: attention and Mike, knowing that you're a lawyer as well,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I decided to bring this up. JP Morgan CEO Jamie
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Diamond says Bank is preparing for a whole range of
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: scenarios as economy mass considerable considerable turbulence. Do you believe that.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely believe that. I think that. I think
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: there's we've got a lot of turbulence in this country
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: right now, right and most of it is most of
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: it is economical and uh and because of the inflation
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: that we have in this country. And I wish that
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: you know, sides would stop blaming one another and put
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: themselves in their heads together and start to solve this problem.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And I'm just so tired of of you know, you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: is it a Democrat, is it a Republican? I don't care. Like,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: We've got to get back to being Americans and solve
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: our problems. And I think it starts with, you know,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: people in this country having a work ethic. And you know,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to pick on young people today, but I
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: just don't see the work ethic in young people today.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: And that's probably our fault because we've probably we've probably
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: probably brought them along or brought them up in a
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: certain way where you know, they think, they think all
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: they got to do is take selfies of themselves with
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: their phone and they're going to be a celebrity.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely is room for concerns. Steven, you want
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to add something to this.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: He's not wrong, Listen. We've got to stop pointing fingers.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Oh it's a democrat. Oh, listen, listen, listen, listen, I
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: don't I don't care. You're you're left, you're right, you're conservative,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: You're do not freaking care, do not. Let's let's get
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: back to to to to Americans being Americans. Let's get
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: back back to to you know, the working blue collar
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: people being celebrated more than freaking retarded streamers like hell, like,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: look even look at the boxing or whatever. We have
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: to deal with freaking Jake Paul. He's beaten up senior
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: citizens and guys that are that are two way classes
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: below him. And then when we were there are people
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: touting him around as as like this great, this great guy.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Like dude, he's a he's a spoiled nickelodeon threat. I
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: mean stop, like please, like like listen, stop worried about
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: you know, what people think of you outside of this
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: and that, Like listen, Let's get back to to making
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: money for this country. Let's get let's get back to
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: you know, being Americans. And we're not just talking about
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: the last ten years, the last twenty years. It goes
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: back even further than that. We've allowed corruption on both
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: sides to run rampant to a point where we're watching
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: we're watching gas prices be through the roof, food prices
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: be through the roof, to the point where where it's
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: just everything so out of whack. But we want to
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: sit there and blame everything else. But what we need
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: to are fricking selves. We've allowed this to happen.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, very well said, all right, we're going to stay
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, and we're going to have a couple of
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: football topics on here, and this is one of them.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Flyers Philadelphia Flyers, I mean Eagles this time.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. They're both basical, Okay. Jim Howie Roseman
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: says the team has a policy to not scout players
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: who have been violent against women because he's made that
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: mistake ten years ago. What are your thoughts about his policy, Mike,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I know you've been in the front office before looking
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: at players, but when you think about it, he's learned
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: his lesson. I know other teams may look the other way,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts about what Howie Roseman his
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: position on this one?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm all for it. I just think that this
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: is another thing that points towards a person's character, and
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: that's the most important thing. We've had this discussion in
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: the past when I was working for clubs. I mean
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: probably the a number one thing I looked at at
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: any potential player was what type of character they had, right,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: And that's measurable I think too many times in all sports. Now.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I just heard some crazy thing from the Patriots today
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: of this Stefan Diggs stuff that's going on, and uh,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: you know, people are saying like, I don't care what
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: he does or how he does it, as long as
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: you know he can catch passes from Drake May. That's
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: That's not what I'm all about. And I think that's
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that's what how we's saying. That's not what the Eagles
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: are all about. You know, they want character guys because
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: that's in the end, that's what's going to get it
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: done well.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: When you consider the success they've had recent years, it's
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: pretty hard to argue against the formula. Once upon a time,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Chip Kelly went in there. We all know how that went.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: But seven pick up this thing. You know it better
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: than anybody. What your thoughts about his approach, Yeah, we're
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: doing business of way.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: It's one of the things that you know, kind of
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: came out like right before the draft that he just
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: doesn't look at these guys, at these guys when we're
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: talking about the scouting thing, but it's not just the
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: scouting thing, and we are we talked about a little
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: bit before with building a culture and bringing in certain guys,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: it does matter, you know. Mike was just talking about
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: what's going down there and when with Stefan Diggs he's
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: partying on boat, giving girls drugs, doing this, that and
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: a third Like, listen, it's all that's the life you
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: want to live. You know. You you represent a brain,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: you know, not just the New England Patriots, but the
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: National Football League. So it's only going to be a
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: matter of time before you know, there's kind of a
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: conversation that goes on between owners and be like, listen,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: we need to we need to not not offer this
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: guy anything and just let let him go and live
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: his life.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: How how like I laugh at some times where we
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: were over the last few years, it's like we're linked
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: to just about every superstar athlete that is potentially trying
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: to leave their thing. And I go and look at
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: one thing immediately is if they've had instances with domestic violence.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: And I was like, there a beginning of the off season,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: they're like, oh, the Eagles are going to be looking
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: into trading for Tyreek Hill. I'm like, no other, not
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: another he's been into. He's been into too many spats
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: with his girlfriends and stuff like that. Besides, I don't
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: think we can ford his alimony payments at this point.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: It's listen, you know, I make I make light of that.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: But like he he's made his own situations. And Howie's
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Roseman's already made this clear. If he's not going to
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: scout guys like that, he's not going to trade for
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: guys like that. So like this is like going into
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: fake news and stuff like that. But it's one of
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: those things like he has a certain type of guy
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: that he wants to bring in there. And and I
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: think even A. J. Brown did a did an interview
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: recently where he's saying, like, you know, guys that that
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: are having problems where they're addicted to two women in
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: a certain type of way that they give them certain
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: type attention and stuff like that. Uh, It's something that
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: that I talk about on the fan in the end
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: a lot. But between me and Ben, go go and
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: look at some of the most successful guys, not just
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: in the NFL, just in sports in general, what is
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: the what is one of the main factors into that
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: they're married men with good home lives. The top guys
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: in this spot, I mean Kobe Well, Kobe Bryant, for
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: for example, like regardless of what you know, you know,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: him not having as many championships as this guy or
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: that guy, but he was basically the the face of
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: the v NBA for a be for the better part
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: of ten years. And you know, he was beloved on
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: all types of levels. You know, obviously Shaquille O'Neal is
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: is a guy that he was partner with and every
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: and there was friction between them because Kobe was beloved
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: in a certain type of way. I believe it is
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: because his home life was situated where Shaq used to
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: used to run on and run around on his wife
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: and do what normal basketball players do. There's a reason
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: why these guys do that, and and and you know
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: that may not be domestic violence, but it's one of
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: those things where there's a certain there's a certain line
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: you don't cross, Like like if you raise your hand
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: to your wife and I'm raising a cerviace, I'm not
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: saying raised. I experienced things. I probably shouldn't experience. And
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I just knew how my mother reacted to it, and
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I just I would have it in me like I would.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I'm never gonna be that person. I'm never gonna raise
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: my hand to a woman no matter what she does,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Like I'll restrain somebody, but I'm not. I'm never going
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: to going to you know, you strike a woman in anger,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: regardless of the heat of the moment or whatever. You
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: have to hold yourself accountable to this. And I'm so
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: glad that Howie Roseman made it a point to and say, hey,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: women are number one on my list. You cannot That's
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: that's something you can't do. And that's something we're not
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: gonna accept here in Philadelphia. We're not gonna accept. For
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: the Eagles, it's something that that he stands by and
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: couldn't be happier that that he has that type of stance.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I mean that's a that's a personality flaw.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: If you're treating your wife, your girlfriend, your partner that way,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: how are you gonna how are you gonna treat your
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: teammates right?
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Are you gonna leave men? How are you gonna leave
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: men right?
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: How are you going to like how are you going
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: to do that? And it's it's a problem. And and
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: you know I'm biased, obviously, I'm a Boston guy. I
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: have a I have an affinity for Philadelphia and all
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: my friends there. But the successful organizations I find build
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: their teams for their cities. And I think the Eagles
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: are a good reflection of what people in Philadelphia stand for.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: And I and I think that, you know, I think
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: how he's one hundred percent right.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: Character is Character is important, you know, whether you're whether
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: you're playing for the Philadelphia Eagles or whether you're you know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: working in a restaurant in South Philly. Like this is
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: what this is what life is all about in Philadelphia,
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: and this is this is what people in Philadelphia forget
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: about their economics standing.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: This is what they.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So let me ask you guys individual
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: questions here and we'll make this segment really brief. I
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: know we have a few other things I want to
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: get to, but Steve talk about your passion for combat sports,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna have Mike talk about his passion
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: for college wrestling. I think this is good because after
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: you guys asked this question, we're gonna work on putting
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: a reel and a rear together, and I want to
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: move it along. But I think it's pretty good that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I have two people. Mike and I've already talked about
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: me going to one of the World Wrestling Championship and
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I'll go with him anyways. But so why don't you start, Steven?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: When you grew through YouTube combat.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: I fell in love with combat sports early, and it
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: was obviously grown initially from from the from the ww
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: F a k a. The WWE, when you had those
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: personalities and things of that nature. But then also you
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: grew up with guys like Mike Tyson and Vander Holyfield
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: and George Foreman, and like you've watched the combat I
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: watched combat sports athletes most of my life. And we're
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: at a time here in Philadelphia. You know, we got
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: you know, Sean Brady, We got you know, you know, uh,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Joey Pfeiffer, Andre Petrowski, Jeremiah Wells. You know we used
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: to have uh now now retired and in competator Paul
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: the Irish Drag and Felder. We have a rich thing.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: And let's not forgot to get about Geron and Boots Ennis.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Who who's gonna be who's gonna be a multiweight champion
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: before everything's said and done. He is an absolute record ball.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: We are blessed here in Philadelphia, and it's just kind
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: of grown. We watched, we watched, and I say combat
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: sports because it's not just MMA, it's not just boxing.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: We got baron knuckle growing.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Dave Feldman's here from the Tri State area. Obviously, you
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: know when they launched and did everything, you know, it
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: was down there in Florida. But they've grown combat sports
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: to a point where we're at a special time when
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: we're talking about combat sports and things of that nature,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: the pro wrestling regularly, jil wrestling, all of it. It's
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: so easily consumed now, where before you had to go
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: to specific sites or specific newspapers and things of that
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: nature where people would cover that. Now, you know, every
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: weekend we could very well have have uh you know,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: fights Friday nights, fight Saturday nights, and then you know
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: something else Sunday night. It doesn't matter if it's here
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: in the United States, if it's international. If you're one
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: of these people who follow like one FC or or
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: even some uh some of the the the Russian combat
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: sports promotions there's just so much of it and also
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: so many different ways to consume it, regardless if it's
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: gonna be on you know, uh, you know your big
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: broadcast channels. Obviously, you know, the UFC is kind of
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: fading away from ESPN now they were also on on Fox,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: they were. It's so easily consumed by by streaming, by
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: all this other other means. My I love them. It
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: just comes from the listen when we're talking about it.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: It's kind of the the primal mail that comes out
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: and everyone, I mean, most of your targeted already is
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: when we're talking about combat sports is you know eighteen
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: to you know, twenty five, thirty, maybe thirty five. But
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: it's it's it's something that we can all relate to
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: and you know, regardless of what format is. If you're
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: a if you're a boxer, ify, if you're a pugilistic guy,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: or or if you like like the combat the MMA
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: that that mix everything into the boxing, the wrestling, the
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: jiu jitsu, the judo, you know, all that stuff. It's
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: it's fun because the styles makes fights that there there
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: there's so many different guys from you know, from your backyard,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: from overseas there's different styles. This guy's more of a
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: karate guy, this is a striker, this guy's a this
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: guy's more of a grappler. There's always fun matchups and
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: ways that we attach ourselves to to to these athletes,
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: and you know, it's it's a rare time.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I think we have more parody now that than there
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: has ever been in any one of the sports promotions.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: However you you like to break that down, but uh,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: it's something that that I have an affinity for, you know,
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: the athletes as well.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Like you.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: When you look at the four major the four major sports,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: everything's a team. It's it's always about you know, the
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: best team will always win. But that that you don't
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: really have teams in combat sports. It's it's one man
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: or one woman going in there and testing their knowledge,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: their skills, their their their athletics is against somebody else
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: who sometimes is uh, you know, they may be taller
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: or longer, they're they're a little bit more experience. Is
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: the one thing I do like about it is the
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: way class You're never gonna have that big disparity like
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: you did in the early days of the UFC. But
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: I think there's a little bit of something in combat
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: sports for everybody, regardless of uh of uh what what
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: poison you're picking?
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Well, now you know you're passionate about combat sports. Good stuff.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: All right, So, Mike, what's your affinity for telegg wrestling?
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I know that we know he was a hockey guy,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: but let's talk about that and then one more topic
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: to get to for Mike and then we go to
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: the station break.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: I grew up playing hockey, but I also grew up
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: in a neighborhood that was filled with boxing and wrestling.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: And I had literally right down the end of my
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: street was a guy named Mickey Ward who became the
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Junior Wealthweight Champion of the world. And it was really
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: he's my size. He was nothing special, he was just
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: all heart and you know, but those who don't know boxing,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I mean he fought fought our Tarot Guardian three fights
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: they call the trilogy of three of the greatest boxing
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: matches of all time. And I had two of my
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: best friends where I went to school with as well,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: who were elite wrestlers, wrestled, you know, in the NCAA Championships,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: both of them three times four years at a time
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: when you know, wrestling didn't get the attention that it's
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: starting to get now. But I agree one hund with
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: what Steven said. There's an honesty about all combat sports
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: that doesn't exist in other team sports, right, And I'm
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: drawn to exactly what Stephen said, the athleticism. I'm drawn
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: to athletes, and to me, those are athletes just like
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: people that can run fast, people can jump high. And
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: as I get older, I'm more and more drawn to
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: athleticism and honesty in sports competition than I am in
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: team sports, where some guy who's just a small part
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: of a team and maybe can do one thing well
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: is given all this praise because of you know, one
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: skill that he has. But let me tell you something.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: I don't have to tell Steven this. If you're if
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: your back's on, if your back's on the bottom of
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: the octagon for four and a half minutes waiting for
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: a round, and while some guys sitting on your chest
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: pounding the crap out of you, let's see what you got, right.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: We'll find out who you're made of real first.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's nobody there that's going to help you.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: There's no out of bounds to run to, right, there's
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: no come to the bench and send the other guy
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: out there like that's it, man, And and and you
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: want to give up, that's up to you.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: You want to you wanna you want to show the
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: whole world what you're made of and tap out, go
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: right ahead, right. But that's uh. These are the elite
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: of elite. I want to say men, because there are
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: women out there now that are that are proven that
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: they're great athletes to in combat sports. And and they're males, right,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: And that doesn't the other thing I have found in
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: my experience very similar to the tough guys in hockey.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: When these guys step outside the ring or the cage
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: or whatever it is wherever they compete, they're good human
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: beings and they and they stand for principles and doing
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: things the right way. And you know they're not then,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: you know, buy and large like the rest of society,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: they're they're just good people. They're not they're not crazy.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: This is just what they do for a living, and
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: this is this is how they carry themselves in life.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see how well, I guess some
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: people won't. I don't see how anybody can't be drawn
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: to these types of sports.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Great, great comments for both. All right, this one's for you,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Mike only. Bill Belichick's girlfriend get this is reportedly a
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: mass eight million dollars and for their real estate forlo
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: since they were dating. What's your take on this? We
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: know that she's been prominently around UNC. I know there's
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: a little bit of drama around there, and obviously football
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: is coming close. But think about a young twenty four
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: year old young lady with a seventy three year old
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: guy a massing eight million bucks. You have any takes
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: on this all the way around?
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Mike, Yeah, I'm glad he was sitting next to her
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: on that plane and not me. Was that. I'm glad
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: he was sitting next to her on that plane years
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: ago and not me because I wouldn't want anything to
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: do with it.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: It's real simple. She got daddy checks.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: There you go, don't they all? I know you will
• 51:36
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  Speaker 1: Back to the program, taking Candy all right, four more topics.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I want to get to doing a great job. Moving
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: to show along. Should the NHL consider an season tournament
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: order to get more eyes on the regular season? Let's
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: not kid ourselves, Mike, Okay, well, we have a couple
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: more shows to go, then we're gonna take a little
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: bit of a break for a while. But when you
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: think about the fact that we both admit the regular season,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: we all football dominates earlier. But do you like the
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: idea of a potential season tournament for hockey? No? Okay, no, why? Why? Why?
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Why do we need one? It's not going to increase viewers.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: But I mean, we saw all the craziness around the
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: four Things this year, which was ten days, ten days
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: of hockey, and as soon as that final game was
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: over where the US lost the cannon overtime, the next day,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: everybody forgot about it and went right back to their business.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: It's it doesn't it doesn't do anything. The players already
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: play a long enough season, you know, full eyeballs away
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: from the NFL, especially that time of year, or college
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: football or any of the other things that are going on.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, how successful is the NBA's in.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Some comment I've got to comment on that. When you're done,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I want your thoughts or on the NHL's version.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: I just think it's I just think it's an afterthought.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let me pick this up here because
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I agree with the thousand percent the NBA needed it
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: because they're desperate. The ratings are down, Okay, we have
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: load management, and the league is suffering badly, and popular.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: If that nobody believes us, all I have to do
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: the Poor Nation Tournament did compare to the NHL All
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Star Game. The NHL doesn't need an in season tournament.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: The game they play intent, they play hard for the
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: NBA doing anything they can find the gimmick to keep
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: an interesting to that time of the year. They what
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: do they do? Shoot three pointers instead of playing the
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: old fashioned prostry pulling the way. Yeah, that's why you
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: need something to keep that interest afloat. But not with
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the NHL. They're playing hard all the time. Lets not
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: get ourselves. I think hockey players are the most underpaid
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: players than all the four major sports because of what
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: they have to go through. But because of the economics
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: set up, I understand the purpose, but I agree with
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: You'm like, the NHL does not need an ncon tournament.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Whoever brought up the idea should be ashamed of himself.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: The NBA needs it because they're desperate, and Steven and
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I are going to be talking about the seventy six
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: or process in a future edition of Professor and the People.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: But I agree with him, like they don't need it.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: The NBA is desperate and that's all I have to say,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I'll turn over to Steven give you a little typical anyway.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: I totally agree with the both of you. It's it's
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: it's a terrible gimmick. It was a terrible gimmick for
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: the for the NBA. You're absolutely right, they are dying,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: dying for viewership right now, and it's their own freaking fault.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: They've been putting. They've been putting the flop up up
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: there as the savior of the sport, and he's done
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: nothing but tear it down. You know, we were talking
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: about Kobe. It was probably the high said it has
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: been at that point because because of the type of
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: player that was, the type of mentality you have, and
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: how he played the game. They don't have guys like
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: that and hockey, you know, obviously, you know you have
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: stars all over the place. You don't, you don't need this.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: They already you already play a tough, a tough game.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: These guys, you know, as you said, most underpaid. They're
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: prior probably one of the toughest guys that you have
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: out there. P CA Saban has already already buried the
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: NBA on this matter. Obviously, some players have gone back
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: at them They don't play for anything. They play for themselves,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: and that's why hockey doesn't need it, because they're they're
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: one of those guys that those their teams play for themselves.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: They go out there, played hurt, touring this, broken, that
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: dislocated this, and they still go out there and give
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: you every answer what's left in their body. They don't
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: need an end season tournament for what. What is it
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: gonna do? Absolutely nothing. You're not gonna pull viewership away
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: from him. What your bases of, what your base is,
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: continue to develop young stars, young athletes right in some
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: of these bigger markets. Obviously that that that always helps,
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: But continue to develop stars that that's I think that's
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: one of the biggest things we were just talking about
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: combat sports, that you have stars from all over the
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: place is one of the things that you can continue
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: to do in hockey. You have stars from from from Russia,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: from from Sweden, from Canada, from the United States. The
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: other thing is isn't a lot of it is is
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: like you have the Kentuck brothers there, now what third
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: generation hockey players, right, You have other things to kind
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: of bring people in, so there's no point to have
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: an interminent anything for for hockey, there they play the
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: toughest eighty two game schedule. They have one of the
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: toughest playoff tournaments. That that that that of most of
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: the four sports because of the listen, at the end
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: of the day, hockey players have the first. They have
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: to be really good at at ice skating first and foremost.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Then we have to get talking about the actual game itself.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: You have to learn how to how to be a defenseman,
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: a goalie, a goalscorer. You know a guy that that's
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: maybe a Swiss Army and he's maybe not great at
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: all of it, but he's really good at all of it.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Those guys have have value in it. You don't need
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: to take away from what you already have. The the
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: the four Nations things is a better alternative to the
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: to the The NHL All Star Game is a better
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: alternative than any of the four sports has right now.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: Pro Bowl is absolutely freaking unwatchable anymore. They're playing flag football.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: No one wants to watch that. We can do that
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: at the Olympics. Now, ain't no point for that. I
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: already said to you, if you want, if you want
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: to say the NFL All Star Game, put the All Star.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Put put your Pro Bowl at at at the Hall
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: of Fame game during preseason is the only way you're
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: gonna save that. Otherwise it's dead Baseball. I think you
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: should go back back to some of the ways they
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: used to do things.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: And you know, Baseball's All Star Game is I think
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: why because he's got got a free trip to Wive
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: State and it wasn't bad there. But the Baseball Star
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Games okay. But I totally agree with this, Steven. Everything
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: you've said is on point with this. It really truly is.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, they don't need it. The NBA Cup is
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: what is it a consolation for what? Oh? Maybe our
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: players will get more experienced unless.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: You give them your I already said the only way
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: if you change that if you don't do like an
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: in season tournament you do you know, maybe he's the
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: preseason thing and then it's like the all like like
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: some of the best best players that you have in
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: the sport playing. You can't sit there and do an
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: in season tournament makes no sense. It goes against what
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: you're doing. This is as bad as as the play in.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: What NBA is doing its stupid.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Well I could tolerate to play in a little, but
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: not much. But will we do that? I could tolerate it.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I said, you can't find.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Out who the best eight teams in each conference in
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: eighty two games.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I listen. I said I could tolerate it.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Didn't mean I liked it. Remember the to like And
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: that's all I'm gonna leave on that topic, okay, because
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going back to another personal thing that Mike Santos
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: can answer. Like we did a little bit earlier. The
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Raiders had seven first round picks from twenty to nineteen
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: to twenty two. None of them remain on the team.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: How do you blow that, mic, Seven and none of
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: them worked out and a three year period. I don't
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: It happens to a lot of teams in all sports.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Boston Bruins haven't been able to land
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: a first round pick that's made their squad and since
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, and they had one guy that made it,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Jake Debrusk, and had three three in the top twenty
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: that one year and none of them made it. So
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: that's a bad, bad organization obviously, especially when it comes
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: to scouting and development. You know, football is a little different.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: I mean you got to you gotta scout, and you
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: gotta land guys. I can I can only speak to hockey.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: I know one thing. In the hockey world, you're looking
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: at sixteen and seventeen year old players, you're drafting them
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: they turn eighteen and trying to predict what they're going
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: to be like when they're twenty three and twenty four.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: A little you know, it's real tough. It's real tough.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: But in the NFL, I mean that's starting to get
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Like all sports, you know, guys are guys are going
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: playing one year, two years now and splitting at twenty
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: years old to go play in the NHL. In the NFL,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: it just gets younger and younger, and it's just more
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: and more difficult to scout these guys you're looking at
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: you're looking at kids and trying to determine what they're
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: going to be like when they're adults.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Agree. Agree, But I was scurious to get your opinion
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: on it because he worked on the inside. So Steven,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: obviously we've talked about this and other shows. If you
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: have someone else to say on it, fine, Otherwise a
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: little bit lost.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: It's not the easiest thing. Everyone thinks that's the easiest thing.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: You could have the number one pick for your team
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: for four years, seven years in a row, and it's
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: still no guarantee that the that these guys are going
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: to develop into anything. There's so many different variables, like it,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: if these guys truly love the the game you're drafting
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: them into, they truly like like if they live, breathe, eat, hockey, baseball, football, whatever.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: It's not the easiest thing to figure out. Injuries happen,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: life happens. You know you you know, we see it
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: in all different guys wind up walking away after a
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: haneful of years, and it's not necessarily because they're not
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: some of the best players in the world. Barry sand
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: has left the left left the NFL in his prime.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: He could have went anywhere and played another handful of
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: seasons and potentially won a Super Bowl. May be down
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: there with as one of the greatest running backs of
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: all time, but he didn't. Megatron another the Troy Troy guy.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: He left I think probably with more than a handful
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: of years left on his table. But it's one of
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: these things you don't know, you don't know what you're
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: gonna get out of this guy. What's in between their ears,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: if they're if they're a leader, if they're a follower,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: if they're a yes man, if they're a company guy.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: You don't know. You don't know that what you're gonna
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: get when you're drafting nineteen twenty twenty one year old kids.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: You don't know who they're gonna become. Regardless if you
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: know their their family situation. They've come from nothing to
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: come from a great family. If they come from a
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: terrible family, you don't know what you're gonna get out
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: of that person. Each person's kind of a ball of clay.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: You have to mold them into something.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: We hear about it in Philadelphia, is the quarterback factory
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: you had? You just had? Kenny Pickett basically says that
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: he's you know, he's been under under you know, Mike
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Toma there in Pittsburgh's Pie argued, we want, you know,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: people call him a great coach. He said he finally
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: learned how to play the quarterback position from top to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: bottom just one year here here in Philadelphia. I don't
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: know if that's going to translate to anything like that.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: In Cleveland, you don't know who you're get. Everyone, says
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Kenny Biget's a bust at this point in time, right,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: he's a bus I can't say that yet. I could
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: sit there and say that he's talented. He has his deficiencies.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: That that why why he's a He's not a a
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: elite quarterback. But I still think he's more than a
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: journeyman serviceman. You don't know what you're gonna get, You don't,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what sport we're talking about.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty, the Boston Celtics, after winning another championship, drafted
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: a guy by the name of Len Bias.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Oh God damn.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: He thought to be better than Michael Jordan. Yeah, and
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: the next day he was dead after a night of
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: youth in cocaine. So like Eve instead, Yeah.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: We'll leave it on that. We'll leave it on that
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: note because they're All I can say is the drafts
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: of crap. Shoot, we will leave it at that. But
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: great observation by both two topics. I want to get to.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Three finalists of the twenty twenty three NHL Coach of
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: the Year have been fired by their respective teams. Get
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: this yet, Jim Montgomery, Mike you and I have talked
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: about him plenty of times. Obviously for Boston, Dave Haxell
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: with Seattle. In fact, I actually understand I think they
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: hired Lane Lambert as their coach. We can go ahead
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: and Candy you w once you look that up to
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: see if it's true I got win that they did.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: And of course Lindy Ruff with the new jersey and
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: the consolation prize at Buffalo. Mike, one of your thoughts, obviously,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: if you win now, no matter what your success, We've
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: talked about it before. You want to talk about these
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: three guys, well.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Two or three guys, Montgomery and Lindy Roff. And I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: could even make an argument for Hackstall. There was no
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: reason to fire. I mean, Lindy Roff did nothing wrong
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: other than the fact that they're that their superstar player
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: up front. And Jack Hughes got hurt in the in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: the Four Nations tournament and missed the rest of the season,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: and you know, what are you going to do? They
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: just you know, they they fell in the standings and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: then were eliminated the first round of the playoffs, right, uh.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Jim Montgomery, I mean two years ago, he not only
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: had the best record in the league, he had the
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: best record ever in the history of the National Hockey
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: League and then all of a sudden he forgot how
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: to coach. Yeah, right, So you know, and by the way,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: both of those guys bounced back pretty well, right. I mean,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Lindy rough who's I don't know what his age is,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to guess Lindy's He's at least in
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: his seventies, you know, has gone back to Buffalo where
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: he played and coached, and you know, that was a
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: great hire for them because they're struggling. They need some credibility.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Hopefully he can bring it to him and Jim Montgomery,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: you know, the next week, jumped into Saint Louis and
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: took a team at the bottom of the standings and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: went to you know, multiple overtimes of Game seven before
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: losing to the Winnipeg Jets this year in the playoffs.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. I don't know why people
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: make decisions sometimes. I'm sure there were reasons maybe behind
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: the scenes that we don't know about, But in all
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: these cases, I don't think it has anything to do
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: with their ability as coaches. But there was something, there
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: was something behind the scenes that we don't know about it.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: There was a reason for them.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Well, it is confirmed Lane Lambert as the Lane Lambert
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: is the new coach, Sandel, you have any quick thoughts
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: about him, real quick? I know some unexpected, But we
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: also talked about rerecky news and from what I understand,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: I believe Marco Stern has been hired by the Boston
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Bruins as well. How about some quick comments on those
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: two hire more comic.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: I know both of those guys real well. Actually, Lane
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Lambert I worked with in the Nashville organization and we're
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: good friends. He coached our team in Milwaukee for several seasons,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: first as an assistant coach and then as a head
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: coach in the American Hockey League, and then he came
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: up and was an assistant coach with Garry Trotz. Followed
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Berry to Washington where they won the Stanley Cup, and
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: then followed him again to Long Island and became the
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: coach of the Islanders after Barry Trotz resigned and left.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: He'll do I think he'll do a great job. You know,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: what does he have in Seattle to work with? You know,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: I think I think there's a lot of work to
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: be done there. I think they're a team that relied
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: on a decent expansion draft to make the playoffs this
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: first year, but since then haven't done a lot to
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: develop their organization for future years. So we'll see. I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: think that I think that's seeing Marco sterm. I actually
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: had Marco with the Panthers in in our twenty eleven
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: well season, acquired him in a trade in the trade
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: with Michael Sanderson that saw David Booth go the other
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: way to Vancouver, and I think I think if that
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: is in fact who the Bruins hire. I don't know
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: if that hire has been made yet. I know it's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: been it's been rumored about, but as I understand that,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: they're still interviewing a couple of people tomorrow, including Stern,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: who's going in for another interview tomorrow. But if he's
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: the guy they hire, I think he's an excellent choice.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: I just hope the Bruins are looking to rebuild their
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: organization to develop some young players, and they give a
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: guy like him that time to do that and and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: develop these guys and build a team. And they don't
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: expect him to go in there and be a Stanley
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Cup the next year too, because that's not going to
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: happen no matter who the coaches.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've actually heard it has been done about a
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: day or two go. I'm sure we'll get more confirmation
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: as we go along. Too bad it didn't work for
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Dan Bielsma out Seattle. But we'll leave it at that.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Those are a couple of quick coaching hires that have
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: come up recently. I to figure we'll get him out
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: of the way now, Steven. Then he quick thoughts about
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: the other coaches that were terminating. One more topic to
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: get to. We're gonna end up showing out positive note.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: It's tough hockey coaches, man like, because you know it's
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: really it takes nothing to get you fired. I mean,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: you know, look here in Philadelphia. You know we had
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  Speaker 3: hacks all here. We couldn't get nothing, nothing going. Hell,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: we just brought Rick Rick Pockett back and for whatever
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  Speaker 3: reason that that's gonna be it. It really is a
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: couple of things that like it's it's one of the
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: things that Michael saying. It could be stuff behind the scenes.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: It could be you know, button heads with with the
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  Speaker 3: with the talent on the teams. It could be just
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: you know, you're bringing new management in and they want
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: they want to bring their their their their guy in
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: or they've been waiting for for an excuse to fire
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  Speaker 3: you so they can bring the guy they want to
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  Speaker 3: have run the team come in. So it's it's just
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  Speaker 3: like we were talking about, it's a crap shoot for
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: UH for drafting guys. It's a crap shoot for for
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  Speaker 3: coaches too. There's some guys that you know will go
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: to go through three, four, five different organizations before they
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  Speaker 3: get get put in a situation or have the right
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  Speaker 3: guys around them to be able to to get the
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  Speaker 3: best out of his guys. They you know, some of
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  Speaker 3: these guys have to fail on the job a lot
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  Speaker 3: until they find the right formula that work. So it's
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  Speaker 3: I think it's it's just as rough as as a
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  Speaker 3: hockey as it will will be in any other sport.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, how we just look, we just saw basketball
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  Speaker 3: that you know, the you know, the the Nuggets basically
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  Speaker 3: fire their coach right before the playoffs and they're not
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: even three years removed from from an NBA championship. So
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  Speaker 3: it's like it doesn't matter. I just think it's it's
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: it's it's how they they they connect with not only
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: the players, but the front office and that goes for
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: the same for for hockey as it goes for baseball, basketball, football,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's it's all in reality, like it's not even
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: what have you done for me? Now? What are you
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: what you done for me lately? Type of thing. It's
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: it's sometimes it could be the silliest thing that that
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: that gets a guy, uh sent packing as far as
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  Speaker 3: the coach goes. So, but let's just just say this way.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you can't do everything with the players. You
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: have to have a guy that can connect with the players.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: And you know, I'll go right back to Nick Sirianna. Everyone, everyone,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: you know, four or five years ago was like, who
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: the frick is this guy? This guy doesn't know what
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: he's doing. Hell, even a year ago everyone was calling
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: for his head, and he turned those guys in that
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: locker room loved him and will go to war for him.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: You have to have that. If you don't have that factor,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter how good of a coach, x's os guy,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: guy you're going to be, does it matter the sport.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: You have to be able to connect with the city,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: the fan base, in the organization. And that's not the
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: easiest thing to to put put that stuff.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Together, Okay, Pete Bore, Pete the Bore took the Jersey
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  Speaker 2: Devils to the Stanley Cup Finals, got fired, went on
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: to the San Jose Sharks, took them to the Stanley
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Cup Finals, got fired, went to the Vegas Knights, took
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: them to the Conference finals, got fired. Like, I mean,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: who's had I mean, who's had it much more success
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: than Pete Bore? And he was fired like four times,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: you know, in a matter of like six years, and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: yet all he did was go to at least the
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  Speaker 2: conference finals. In the finals.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So we got a couple of questions, chat room,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: I'll have one for both. Yeah, well we'll start with you, Mike.
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  Speaker 1: What's the best coaching hire so far for you? Mike?
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  Speaker 1: And then Steven gillanswer the next one.
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  Speaker 2: I say it, Oh, I think, uh, I think it's
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: it's yet to be made. I think if if the
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: Bruins hire Marco Sturm, I'll go with Marco Stern if
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: they If we go through and and hire Marco, I
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: just think he's a guy that's he's cut his teeth,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: he's he's developed himself as a coach, and I just
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: know him as a person. I think he's he's just
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: going to be very relatable with with the Boston organization
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: that needs to go young and take their lunch for
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: a few years. And if they do that, I think
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: he'll be the best higher.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, Steven, you know the next question. Do you think
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Packet will do well? Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean one of those things that was already centre.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: He evens the city of Philadelphia. He's he's played here,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: he was, he was he was a part of this
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: team in the uh the the late eighties, early nineties.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: He gets Philadelphia. I know he hasn't been super successful
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: as a head coach, but I think you you have
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: a young Flyers team that that that's ready to win.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: I think their biggest problem has been just a carousel
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: at goaltender over the last ten years has probably been
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: been the Flyers' biggest problem they had. They have guys
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: I think that could potentially develop and and and be stars,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: if not superstars. You know, you don't have a Claude
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: Jerux anymore, but uh, you know, t K is a guy.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: Coatie is a guy that that that I think guys
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: rally around. So it's they got they got an interesting
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: group of characters. I think I think Rick rickle toe
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: the line the way it needs to be. Be tough
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: on him when he needs to be too. Unfortunately, uh,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: you know, Johnny t just was a little vile to
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: what how he went went about some of the things
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: with some of the reports that came out afterwards. He's
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: a he's a Stanley Cup winning coach and he couldn't
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: make it here in Philadelphia. That it's a there's a
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: certain way you have to go about things. I think
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: the athletes are have to be coached in a certain
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: way these days. I don't know if it's just that
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: guy's being soft. I don't know. I can't give you
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  Speaker 3: that answer. I'm not in that locker room. I'm not
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: around that team. I can't be able to tell you that.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: But I think Vick'll do fine. It's it's just a
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: matter of being healthy, keeping the keeping the right pieces
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: here and bringing some bringing maybe one or two more
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: guys in and seeing it see how it all plays out.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here's a little fyi. Royal y Clacks was on
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: our show one time. He says, Marco Strom did they
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: did job at the Ontario Range. So there you go.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: He knows a little bit about his hockey. Final topic
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: of the night is from San Jose. San Jose didn't
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: have a lot to cheer about this year, but they
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: retired Shoe Thornton's number nineteen jersey as he became the
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: second player in team history to have his number retired,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: joining Patrick Marlow number twelve on February twenty, twenty twenty three.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Is when Marlow is, you played fifteen season there, teams
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: all time assist leader in SAP Center, you ought to
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: know about Joe Thornton. One of your thoughts about him
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  Speaker 1: getting his recognition out in the Bay Area.
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  Speaker 2: I think Joe Thornton was the Sharks sort of what
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: Matthew Kuchuk is to the Panthers now when they made
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: that deal that made that organization a legitimate contender for
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: the fifteen years he was there. There were other players
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: that came in and out of that organization, great players,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: know Marlow included Joe Pavelski in his last few years there,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: But Joe was the one constant there. He was definitely
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: the leader of that group. And although he's a big
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: man and strong player, he wasn't He wasn't what I
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: would call the overly intimidating, you know, physical, fighting type
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: of player. And he also was more of an assist
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: man than he was a goal scorer, but he was.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: He was the leader of that of that organization for
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  Speaker 2: fifteen years. And we talked about that earlier, like where
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: the least lead leader lack leadership. The Sharks never lacked
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: leadership with him in that lockerow.
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  Speaker 7: He did anything to say about j Thornton was a
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  Speaker 7: fun guy to watch, man like, like Mike said, he
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 7: wasn't you know, he's not your your fifty sixty goal scorer,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 7: but he's one of these guys.
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  Speaker 3: He's like a Swiss army knife. He can be whoever
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: the team needs to be. He you know, you have
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: to have those leaders in those locker rooms, and he
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: was one of those guys that guys would look to
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: for for stability, leadership, you know, somebody to hold his
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: players accountable, things of that nature. Joey, Joey Thornton. It
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: will be a captain in my eyes, no matter if
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: he has a seer on his sweater and the season
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: number of retired just I think speaks to who he
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: was and what he did his career.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Cup or no Cup a great way to catch the
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  Speaker 1: show off tonight with Joe Thornton and his number of
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: being retired by the San Jose Sharks. So well that said,
• 1:19:16
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• 1:19:18
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• 1:19:23
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• 1:19:32
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• 1:19:36
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• 1:19:38
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• 1:22:01
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• 1:22:04
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously you can follow me on on x at
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• 1:22:33
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• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: Pollard on on this past week. You know that that
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: was another fun interview uh with him. Obviously he'll be
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: back here at some point in time as he's working
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: with the Jacksonville Jaguars front office now. It was was
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: a fun interview. If you have missed that one, make
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• 1:22:55
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• 1:22:59
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• 1:23:02
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• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: I got a a b KFC ice fighter coming on.
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• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: sometime in the next month. Your guys are not gonna
• 1:23:48
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  Speaker 1: Very good Steve, and we'll see you on Monday night.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Of course, we communicate every day anyways, doesn't matter what
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: way or the other. Mike, we have a date next
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Thursday night. We have two more shows to wrap up.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: We took what's a playoffs on some other moves that
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: are pending. If I heard correctly, I believe the Islanders
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: are also keeping Patrick Wall one year, giving him one
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: year with the new regime. We'll see what happened. Figure
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: I get that out as well. So meanwhile, what a
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: show tonight? Fire Up is coming up next on behalf
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: of Steven Reichell and Mike Santos. My name is Scott Morgan,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Routromotive City, Madamouth. Thank you for joining us on this
• 1:24:23
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• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: a great weekend and Candy have a great show tonight
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  Speaker 1: in the Country Club. Good Night everybody,