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ManifesTayshia · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It's another week of the Almost
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  Speaker 1: Famous podcast. Yes, this is the finale week, a huge
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  Speaker 1: finale when we are all celebrating, so pumped to be
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  Speaker 1: talking about. It's also a holiday week, so it's also
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  Speaker 1: exciting that we're gonna get a few days rest. I
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  Speaker 1: hope you all are this season. If you're not, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for the work that you're putting in. Ashley, here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing, start talking and just I'm not gonna stop
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  Speaker 1: talking because here's why. Yes, yesterday I lost my wallet. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know now, Like there's a few things in
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  Speaker 1: life that people really hate losing phones, wallets, those type
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  Speaker 1: of things like the small, like very material items that
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  Speaker 1: we possessed that we get really addicted to. I lost
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  Speaker 1: my wallet and I couldn't hardly function, like like I
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  Speaker 1: was so stressed out knowing knowing that like it's nowhere
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  Speaker 1: be found. Well, I found it in the corner of
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  Speaker 1: a garage. Um, don't ask me how it got there.
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  Speaker 1: It's been the multiple times I've lost it here in
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  Speaker 1: the last week. And but I now have a wallet.
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  Speaker 1: I am so happy because love is in the air.
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  Speaker 1: Wallets are found. I'm gonna breathe now so that you
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  Speaker 1: can talk. I'm just so excited. I know I could
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  Speaker 1: tell how peppy you were today. I'm just I know
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  Speaker 1: that relief that you get, and I'm peppy. For another reason.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still on cloud nine because of that finale. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my goodess, gracious you guys. I feel like I got
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  Speaker 1: engaged last night. What was this Like? I afterward, I
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  Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: just experienced like something like insane in my life. Like
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I got a promotion, like my team
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  Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and I was at it. It
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  Speaker 1: was so weird. It was a finale that we haven't
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  Speaker 1: felt and so long, and seriously, we can we can
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  Speaker 1: go down the list, like I went down the list
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  Speaker 1: this morning with access. Let me just really briefly, so
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  Speaker 1: we uh, we had this one, which is absolutely magical,
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  Speaker 1: and then claren Dale okay, but there was like we
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  Speaker 1: had reservations about Clarendale right because we're like, hello, it's
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  Speaker 1: been less than twelve days. Um, And then we go
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  Speaker 1: back to Peters season and then he ends up with
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  Speaker 1: like No. One. And then before that, there was Hannah
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  Speaker 1: season and there was she didn't end up with Jed,
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  Speaker 1: and then there was Colton season and he was with
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  Speaker 1: Cassie but only dating Cassie because she left him on
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  Speaker 1: the finale. And and then before that we had Becca
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  Speaker 1: and that was like pretty normal. And but then before
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  Speaker 1: that we had Ari and that was that was also
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  Speaker 1: a switchero. And it's just like we got a bachelor
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  Speaker 1: fairy tale happy ending last night, and my little bachelor
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  Speaker 1: heart and like this is my little bachelor heart as
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  Speaker 1: a fan is so full. It's a fan and a
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  Speaker 1: friend and it's just like wow, wow, wow, Well, hey,
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  Speaker 1: who doesn't like a happy ending. Well, before we start
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  Speaker 1: talking happy endings, uh, let's bring on one of the
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  Speaker 1: fan favorites this season from The Bachelorette. We have the
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  Speaker 1: privilege to speak with one of Tatius suitors, Brendan. Brendon's
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  Speaker 1: on the line. Now, let's bring them on. Well, hey, Brendan,
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  Speaker 1: I mean we are so thrilled to have you on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast. You're such a fan favorite. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: there's not a fan out there who had criticism of you,
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  Speaker 1: Like You've just seem like the sweetest, most endearing guy,
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  Speaker 1: so genuine I think we're all, we were all sad
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  Speaker 1: to see you leave, but we all very much respected
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  Speaker 1: the decision that you made to leave. So I guess
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  Speaker 1: like my first question for you is when when did
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  Speaker 1: you start thinking, Okay, I should probably get out of here,
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  Speaker 1: because we all know it wasn't the Neil Lane wedding date,
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  Speaker 1: wedding ring date. You were put on that on purpose?
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  Speaker 1: For sure? For sure, Yeah, yeah that was That was
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  Speaker 1: definitely a strategic move from the producers that I would imagine,
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  Speaker 1: but um, yeah it was. It happened. Of course, the
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  Speaker 1: whole experience happened so fast, and I only knew Tasha
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  Speaker 1: four around a month and um, that first one on
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  Speaker 1: one date, I left there, you know, feeling like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this this actually could work for me, This could be something. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I felt like this risk I took on on
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  Speaker 1: potentially finding love, uh in this crazy endeavor might work.
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  Speaker 1: And then, um, you know, but there was the next
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  Speaker 1: level I needed to get to, obviously, to be able
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  Speaker 1: to propose to someone and to be able to you know,
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  Speaker 1: leave there, uh engage. So I was looking for you know,
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  Speaker 1: the next date, um, the next route. They hopefully looking
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  Speaker 1: for another one on one date too, you know, have
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  Speaker 1: my feelings grow to a certain level to be able
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  Speaker 1: to propose. So it was basically around the after my
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  Speaker 1: hometown date. Well, I was super, super hopeful that her
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  Speaker 1: meeting my family would kind of calm some of my
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  Speaker 1: doubts and and bring me at ease a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more and having communication with my family and then reassuring
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  Speaker 1: me that I'm doing the right thing. I was so
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  Speaker 1: hopeful that that moment would make my feelings grow to
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  Speaker 1: the next level for me to be prepared to propose,
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  Speaker 1: and and and the whole time, I was definitely fighting
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  Speaker 1: myself and trying to not completely self sabotage situation, not
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  Speaker 1: completely trying to just not put myself out there to
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  Speaker 1: protect myself. But um yeah, unfortunately, as you saw, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't able to do it well. You know, one of
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  Speaker 1: the things that's super interesting is, UH, during this show,
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  Speaker 1: especially when you're part of the cast and you're not
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  Speaker 1: the lead, you don't get a lot of time alone.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people around all the time. So
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  Speaker 1: can you give us UH behind the scenes, look at
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  Speaker 1: how you started the process this. This couldn't have been easy.
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  Speaker 1: There had to be a lot of emotion behind kind
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  Speaker 1: of feeling these things and trying to figure out what
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  Speaker 1: the right decision was. How did you, during the show
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  Speaker 1: and the climate of the show come to a place
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  Speaker 1: where you're confident that you're making the right decision. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So as far as as time goes, I was honestly
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  Speaker 1: surprised with how little time I did have with Tasia
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  Speaker 1: and only having the one one on one date that
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  Speaker 1: we did experience together, and of course the hometowns, and
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  Speaker 1: then if you were to go further along, um, you
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  Speaker 1: know you had more time, but um, yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: it was definitely challenging, um knowing that you know, you
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  Speaker 1: have to cultivate these these feelings, uh and have them,
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  Speaker 1: um you know, bring them to a certain level to
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  Speaker 1: to leave their engage. So um yeah, I mean time
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  Speaker 1: was was a huge factor in something that I was
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  Speaker 1: honestly surprised that, you know, that I didn't have more
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  Speaker 1: of it, and and the time we did have it
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  Speaker 1: was little pockets of ten to fifteen minutes where you're
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  Speaker 1: scrambling trying to get to know each other, learn something
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  Speaker 1: about Tasha, you know, Tassia, what's your and And it
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  Speaker 1: was crazy for me is because I was so curious,
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  Speaker 1: like Tasia, what what what kind of food do you like,
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  Speaker 1: what's your favorite movie? You know, what do you like
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  Speaker 1: to do as a hobby, and all this other stuff
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  Speaker 1: that at the end of the day, it's not really
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  Speaker 1: make or break in a relationship, but it's stuff that
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  Speaker 1: you don't talk about when you when your time is
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  Speaker 1: so condensed like that. So, yeah, it was. It was
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  Speaker 1: a whirlwind. But what I'm sorry I lost track of
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  Speaker 1: the main question there was that when when did you
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  Speaker 1: just define time to process these feelings when you started
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  Speaker 1: doubt that you were ready? What did that look like
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  Speaker 1: that we didn't get to see. Yeah, um, definitely a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time with with the producers where obviously wasn't televised,
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  Speaker 1: where um, I'm speaking with the producers, I'm speaking with
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  Speaker 1: the other guys on on the show to a certain
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  Speaker 1: extent where I'm like, Hey, this is these are some
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  Speaker 1: of my thoughts. This is what I'm struggling with. Um
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  Speaker 1: I not Tasha is here to find love and leave
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  Speaker 1: engaged and potentially um you know, find her husband. So
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  Speaker 1: the last thing I want to do is pose the
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  Speaker 1: question to her like, hey, would you be down to date?
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  Speaker 1: Would you be down to leave here boyfriend and girlfriend?
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  Speaker 1: And that was that was my honestly initial thought and
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  Speaker 1: and some of you know, the great producers on the
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  Speaker 1: show were like, uh, I don't think that, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it is probably best for you, for Tasia, for the
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  Speaker 1: whole experience she's looking for a husband. And then, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I quickly came to the realization that, uh, this is
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  Speaker 1: probably something that I can't move forward and doing unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: because I can't give Tasha what she's looking for and
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  Speaker 1: what she needs at this particular moment. And it was
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  Speaker 1: it was tough coming to terms with that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: knowing why I am theyor knowing, um, you know, what
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  Speaker 1: the end result should be, and then having to face
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  Speaker 1: that reality that that I wasn't able to get there.
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  Speaker 1: So Brendan, on our previous podcast on Monday, we discussed
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  Speaker 1: this SoundBite that was significant. Uh, Tasia said something along
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  Speaker 1: the lines of I can't directly quote, but I thought
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  Speaker 1: Brendan was the one, are going to be the one?
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  Speaker 1: Did you think that there was a chance she would
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  Speaker 1: have chose you or do you think that was a
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  Speaker 1: sound bite that was taken from earlier maybe a little
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  Speaker 1: out of context. Maybe she thought you were going to
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  Speaker 1: be the one. Earlier on like, was that like jarring
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  Speaker 1: to hear as the episode played on Monday. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: really was a very good question. It really was jarring
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  Speaker 1: and it and it shocked me a little bit to
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  Speaker 1: hear her say that. And I know we had a
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  Speaker 1: great connection and I felt very very strongly about her,
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  Speaker 1: and she felt very strongly about me, of course, and
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  Speaker 1: we had that emotional that physical connection. Um. And again,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't looking for her to necessarily constantly validate me
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  Speaker 1: with her words, and I didn't, and it wasn't looking
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  Speaker 1: for her to be like, I'm in love with you,
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  Speaker 1: I wanna you know, if we're here together at the end,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna marry you and all this stuff. But um,
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  Speaker 1: and I know she's the lead, and I know she's
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  Speaker 1: a bachelorette, and she can't be telling everyone, um, you
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  Speaker 1: know these things and these strong, bold statements of love
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  Speaker 1: and all this stuff. But that you watching it back,
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  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, early on, early on, I suppose, But um,
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  Speaker 1: me watching it back, I had not the slightest idea
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  Speaker 1: that she felt I was the one since day one,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, in my hometown. She had her interviews
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  Speaker 1: and sound bites of her saying I could walk away
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  Speaker 1: with this man, I could all these things and um,
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  Speaker 1: and I honestly had uh no idea that she felt
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  Speaker 1: that strongly about me, So so it made it made
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  Speaker 1: it harder to watch back, Um, seeing how she she
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  Speaker 1: pretended eventually felt about me and how she described us,
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  Speaker 1: and knowing that it didn't work out, it definitely makes
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  Speaker 1: it a harder pill to swallow. How are you processing
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  Speaker 1: right now? You just watched the finale we all did.
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  Speaker 1: It's something to celebrate, it's really it was a really
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  Speaker 1: beautiful ending. But for you you're living at all, and
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  Speaker 1: you're still fresh into this thing. How are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing good, I'm doing okay, I'm um. Watching how
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  Speaker 1: it ended, ah, was was very refreshing for me, and
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  Speaker 1: and it kind of changed my perspective on the whole thing. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: leaving the show the way I did, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't leave there feeling great about it whatsoever. Um, certain
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  Speaker 1: part of me feels like it was a missed opportunity,
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  Speaker 1: something that could have completely changed the trajectory in my
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  Speaker 1: life with this amazing woman. But of course, as I stated,
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  Speaker 1: it just something that I wasn't ready for unfortunately, But um,
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  Speaker 1: it put me at ease knowing that I feel like
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  Speaker 1: what happened was meant to happen, and and if I
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  Speaker 1: interfered with um Zack and Tastia and their connection and
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  Speaker 1: the actual love that they had for each other and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully still have for each other, if I made it
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  Speaker 1: to the to the top two with my doubts and
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  Speaker 1: and made that whole situation more confusing for Tasia. UM
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  Speaker 1: where I was, you know, just seeing how all in
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  Speaker 1: invested Zach was and where I would had still my reservations. UM,
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  Speaker 1: I'm grateful that that I did do what I did
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  Speaker 1: in order to make that UM last moment there that
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  Speaker 1: we saw in the finale as beautiful as it was,
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  Speaker 1: because those were two people that were all in for
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  Speaker 1: each other. And then that's exactly the way it should be. UM.
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  Speaker 1: So you after watching Monday Night's episode and hearing her
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  Speaker 1: say that, and then seeing Ben come back and enter
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  Speaker 1: the top two, how do you feel like if you
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  Speaker 1: did stick around things would have turned out for you? Um?
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  Speaker 1: You think that you have made it to top two
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  Speaker 1: instead of Ben? I think so. I think so. You know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously no way of really knowing, but I think, UM,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I know, I notation Ben had had
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  Speaker 1: a connection of course, And I just don't know. There
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  Speaker 1: was something that she was always wrestling with with Ben,
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  Speaker 1: and I still to this day don't know what it was.
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  Speaker 1: I can't pinpoint it. But she didn't feel I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if she trusted everything he said and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and trusted that he uh he was ready for marriage
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  Speaker 1: or whatever it was. And and you know, Ben's an
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  Speaker 1: amazing guys, one of my closest friends from the show.
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  Speaker 1: But I just still don't know how to pinpoint how
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  Speaker 1: she felt about him. So, um, yeah, I know we
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  Speaker 1: Tasian and I had you did have something special for sure,
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  Speaker 1: And and yeah, I feel like if I was at
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  Speaker 1: a different place and I was able to, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: develop those feelings a little quicker and be able to
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  Speaker 1: break down my walls and allow that love to actually,
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  Speaker 1: um come about, then uh yeah, I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: would have made the top two for sure. Well you know,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned uh, you know, kind of breaking down the walls,
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  Speaker 1: and one of the things that was you know, common
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  Speaker 1: this year, and and storyline that I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people can relate with is getting to a place
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  Speaker 1: where you can fall in love again or commit to
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  Speaker 1: somebody again. Do you have personally? Has the show helped
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  Speaker 1: you get to a place where you're excited about that
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  Speaker 1: or are you in a process of still kind of
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  Speaker 1: building and informing yourself? Are you ready to fall in
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  Speaker 1: love again? Yeah? Yeah, it's uh, you know, when you
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  Speaker 1: when you go through a marriage and divorce. UM, I
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  Speaker 1: think even if you don't realize, and it's something that
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  Speaker 1: I didn't and not until my time on the show,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously since that, you subconsciously just protect yourself. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you would protect your heart and um, you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get hurt. And and it's uh, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like silly for like a thirty one year old
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  Speaker 1: man to to say that, but that's something that I
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  Speaker 1: had to come to terms with that that was my reality.
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  Speaker 1: UM and and um the show really helped me. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know realized that and and since then, UM, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think the best part about it is, am I
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  Speaker 1: completely ready? H is that person in my life? Or
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  Speaker 1: am I going to meet that person? I'm not sure,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm taking those necessary steps to to um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: opening myself up being um, you know, loving with uh
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  Speaker 1: with no boundaries or no guards up or no walls,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, until I meet that special person and
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  Speaker 1: until until I'm faced with that decision again. You know,
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  Speaker 1: of of a serious relationship and engagement marriage. UM, I
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  Speaker 1: may never know, and it's going to require a leap
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  Speaker 1: of faith regardless, But I'm definitely on the right path
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  Speaker 1: for sure. When you left, who did you think she
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  Speaker 1: was going to end up with? I thought she was
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  Speaker 1: gonna end up with with Zach. I thought Ivan was
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  Speaker 1: a better I thought they were a better fit together.
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  Speaker 1: To be honest, I couldn't because I thought, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Ivan was just I feel like everything that won you
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  Speaker 1: and Zach was an amazing guy as well. But Ivan
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  Speaker 1: and Tatia their their personality seemed to be a little
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  Speaker 1: more similar. Um. There, you know, Ivan would have followed
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  Speaker 1: Tasia all over the world and and uh, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they're connection was um that of one
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  Speaker 1: that they could be best friends and and obviously husband
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  Speaker 1: and wife and um. But Zack was so passionate about Tasia. Um,
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  Speaker 1: he had no doubts at all, and even talking with Ivan,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, the final three guys, he had some
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  Speaker 1: reservations at certain points, and knowing the importance of a
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  Speaker 1: decision of proposing, and we had these conversations, Zach was
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  Speaker 1: all in seven UM, no questions asked about how he felt,
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  Speaker 1: what he was going to do if he made it
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  Speaker 1: to the end, and watching it back, there was a
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  Speaker 1: different level of passion that Tatia and Zach had that
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  Speaker 1: that Ivan didn't have with Patia, That that I didn't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily allow to have with Patia. UM, you know, unfortunately
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  Speaker 1: because of my own my own fault. But UM, watching
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  Speaker 1: it back, Yeah, that the passion that they shared for
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  Speaker 1: each other, Uh, definitely was not matched by any other
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  Speaker 1: other guy. The I know, we have about five more
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  Speaker 1: minutes here with you, UH, and I want to kind
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  Speaker 1: of get into what's next for you, but I also
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  Speaker 1: want to kind of get your opinion on some of
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  Speaker 1: the headlines that we've been speaking about on the podcast
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  Speaker 1: UM this week. Rachel Lindsay, Uh as in and obviously
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  Speaker 1: you're in this consideration too. I'd imagine UM came out
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  Speaker 1: and UH said that Ben Smith should not be the
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  Speaker 1: next Batchel, that she's not in support of that. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think of those comments? Yeah, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I've heard of that. I don't know what she's basing
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  Speaker 1: that off of. Um. Ben is is an extraordinary man,
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  Speaker 1: and we were very very close and definitely towards the
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  Speaker 1: end we uh, you know, we worked out together, we
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: spent time together, talked about life together and what this
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: journey was. So I'm not sure what she's basing that
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: off of. M I think Ben would be a rarchicable
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: bachelor and and you know, definitely deserve that. Uh, you know,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: there's I don't know if she's questioning things he brought
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: to the table to the course of the show, what
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: stuff that he talked about, and and if that rubbed
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: her the wrong way. I don't know, but I think
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Ben would be, uh, would be a great bachelor. People
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: are going to want you to be on Bachelor in Paradise,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: and it's like the obligatory question for us to talk to,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: you know, to ask you if you're down to do it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: You you talked about, you know, I actually want to
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: clarify something before you weren't ready for engagement, and that's
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: totally understandable. You said you felt you needed to work
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: more on yourself and that this process helped you you
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: discover that. Was that you getting over your past divorce
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: further or is that just like you finding yourself in
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: like a different place. I think a combination of both. Um.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: You know, I've had one one relationship, uh, dating one
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: girl since my divorce, and UM, you know it was
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I was always reluctant to give her, um you know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: my entire self, my entire heart. UM and uh and
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you know you think like, oh, it's just because it's
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: not the right person or um you know, you just
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: don't have busines or that working for you in this relationship. UM.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: So you know it was. Yeah. I think the combination
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: of of of still processing dealing with um, the ending
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: of a marriage and a relationship that I thought was
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: going to be forever. And also and in turn, UM,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: requiring myself to to you know, keel up and and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and be a better version of myself every day, and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: knowing that I want a woman to um look at
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: me when I'm down on one knee and know and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: know that I'm as complete as I possibly can be.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: UM to trust the decision that we're making moving forward. UM.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: So yeah, a combination of both, I think. Okay, so
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: now knowing that we can go into the possibility of
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: be being in paradise. With paradise, you don't have as
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: much pressure to get engaged, and you definitely get to
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: know people a lot more before you do get down
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: on one day because you have so many more hours.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Would you be interested in doing it? I would definitely
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: consider it, to be honest. How I how I'm thinking
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: at this particular moment um, you know, and I'm putting
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on myself as far as like,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: can I actually um fall in love with someone in
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: such a short amount of time and on this TV
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: show and all this stuff and I and I would
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: love to do it. I would love to have the experience,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: but I don't know, um as I sit here today,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: if that's something that uh I can do and my
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: my personality will allow me to do to really, but
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: you know, leaving leaving dating is obviously a completely different story.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Um And I know, I know, I agreed to the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Bachelorette and I agreed to being a part of this,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: but it was still something so new to me and
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: not knowing if I could like call the make those
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: feelings in such a short amount of time. But I'm
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: gonna give it my all, So as far as paradise goes,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I would definitely consider it, but I think I would
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: have to be ready to give it my all and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: come in with with an open heart. And uh, and
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that's something that I'm working towards being ready for. Were
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you a fan of the show before being on it? No? No,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I never never really watched the show before. I've seen
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: random clips from my mom watching it, but um, yeah,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: that's something that I don't regret. But at the same time,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I wish I had, like binge, watched a season or
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: two or something like that before I went on, um,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: just to kind of know what I was getting myself into.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: But that's something I didn't. I didn't do. And what
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: you saw and how how my story unfolded was completely
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: true and accurate to how I felt in each and
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: every moment. So it was, Yeah, it was. It was
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: some of the other guys, like they themar and all
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the other they saw like seasons passed and all that stuff,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and that's something I just didn't do. The Alright, just
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: one more minute here a couple of fun questions for you. Uh. Well,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: one is the things you're saying a lot of respect
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: for you men. I we've talked about the show before,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: how you've handled yourself and and honestly, you portrayed your
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: DMS are gonna I mean they're already probably full, Um,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: but they're gonna be even fuller after uh this episode.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Uh and uh, I'm you know, back some predicts I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: was gonna come calling. I don't know what we're considering.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Are you like, were you third or fourth this season? Actually,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: what what do you say? It has been in third
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: or fourth this season? He's third to me, he's third
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: to me, he's third to me. We're so you you
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: left in third. You did some incredible things this season.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: And and the biggest question of all, my biggest concern
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: about you as a as a person, is this, how
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: in the world do you wear turtlenecks in a hundred
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and twenty degree weather? He's wearing a turtleneck now because
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: he's in Massachusetts. Yeah, it's it's thirty degrees now, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you can certain questionable. No, that's a very very valid question. Um.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: What what I did was I prioritized the fashion overcomfort
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: in the desert in Palm Springs, and um, yeah, it
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: really is like I I love turtle necks for whatever reason,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I've been wearing them for for a few years now.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And uh and definitely like inspired by some of uh,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: you know, some some people in fashion and like NBA players,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: they love like the turtleneck in the in the jacket
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and all that's inspire me. But honestly, when I was
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: packing for the show going to Palm Springs, I knew
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: it was gonna be hot. Of course, I didn't know
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a hundred and twenty all the time.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: But I threw in like four or five turtlenecks, like,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to wear these. Um from what I
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: underst dan, it's like suit, tie button up, all that
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: good stuff. I'm not going to wear these. And then
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a couple, as you saw, like the first few Rose ceremonies,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I had a regular tie on and everything, and then
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I asked one of the producers like, can I wear
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a turtlenecks? Like yeah, I don't care. And then from
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that point on, I was like, I mean, I feel
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: way more comfortable. Uh, you know, I feel like I'm
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: definitely a little more stylish and more myself in the turtlenext.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna let it rock, love it. Okay,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I know you have to go, but we I really
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: want to end asking you this question because I think
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: it says so much about somebody. I always say, if
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you were stranded on a mountain, your car broke down,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: who would be the guy from your season to drop everything,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: drive out there and help you? Who would do it?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Who would help me? Not who I'd want to be there,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: who would definitely be like the guy always there to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: rescue you, okay, without a doubt. And I think this
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: is um, this is probably falled. This person falls under
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: both categories. Is who who would without a doubt drop
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: everything and come rescue me? And who I would choose
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: is definitely Joe Uh you know, yeah, he's uh he
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: one of my closest friends from the show UM and
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and we've we've hung out since and and he's like
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: one of the sweetest, most selfless people I've ever met
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: in my life. And and we had like it was
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: funny every single every single night we have like thirty
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: seconds of like time that we weren't Mike. And every
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: night we like walk into our rooms, we talked for
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: like thirty seconds before producer would break it up. But
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: we like recap the day, talk about what are feelings
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: of what's going on and everything, and we like built
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the relationship, um from that, we're in the same limo
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: together and uh and his last night, he kind of
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: had an idea he was leaving, or at least he uh,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: he wrote this letter for me that he was like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you when I leave,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: and and he um, he stayed for a couple of
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: weeks longer and the last night gave me this letter
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: that I still obviously still have to this day of
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: just him encouraging me, telling me you know how much
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: he valued and enjoyed our time together and that we're
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: gonna be friends for a long time. So uh yeah,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: it was sweet and he's a sweetheart. So definitely. Do
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: you know how hard the girls are swooning right now?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: You and Joe together the sweet relationship? Wow wow wow.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: All right, well we actually have him on later in
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: this episode, so thanks for that nice transition there. Tell
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: him my love him, right, Hey, Brenain really appreciate you.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. I have a good holiday season,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and uh, rest up, that's been burning in you all.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming. Yeah, and check your d M. Definitely
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: definitely I'll see you in war work. Okay, it sounds
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: good by Obviously we just had Brendan on the podcast
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Agree interview. Uh, he wasn't around for the finale, but
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: we were. We were watching it. We were all all
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: watching it. This is uh, this is a finale to
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: speak about Ashley. You open up this podcast incredibly giddy,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna throw it over to you. You
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: take this thing where you want to take it. Okay, Well,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I guess do we go to do? We go to
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: the top where she brings Ben in, and she says like, Okay,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: just meet me at the Rose ceremony. Sure, you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: here's what we really want to get to. We really
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: want to get to the end. So until we get there,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: let's just break down what happens this episode, your thoughts,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: your feelings, and then then you can get giddy again. Okay, okay,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: sounds good. So yeah, Um, when she said meet me
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: at the Rose Ceremony, I just knew she was going
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: to let Ben back in. I thought was like super
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: obvious because I just didn't feel it with her and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Ivan and poor Ivan had the crappy Winnebago ice bath
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: date and it's just like you weren't vibing it. So
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, she's gonna put Ben in because
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: that way she could just make sure she like figures
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: out her feelings, has no regrets. At the end of
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: this she has no what ifs. You know how many
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: times have I said in this podcast, like she's going
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: to eliminate the what ifs that way when she's engaged
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: in the end, she knows that like she explored every
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: relationship to the maximount that she felt necessary. Um So
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: then the rose ceremony obviously be ivan is eliminated. It's
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: very sweet of her for eliminating these guys like in
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: one on one situations and not like at roast ceremonies.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: This episode, um she brings up the fact that they
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: didn't share. They didn't see eye to eye on religion,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: And I understand that religion is a is a big
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: dealtation and she probably does want her significant other to
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: either like completely accept and respect her religion, if not completely,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: just agree with her beliefs. It be in line with
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: her beliefs. But I do think that was been of
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a cop out, maybe like a nice way of saying, like, hey,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: we didn't align on this, so like I don't think
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: we have any future, Like I get it. That's definitely
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: like on her checklist of things that they have to
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: match up on. But like, I just think that it
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: was a nice way of sending him home, don't you. Well,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: that's where I want to ask the question. I was
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: watching it with my future mother in law and and
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: we we never remember any conversations about faith or belief
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: between the two of them, and maybe I've missed that. Well,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: it was obvious to me that it was in the
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Fantasy Suite, but that is me watching it as somebody
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: who's been part of the show. Like I know, but
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that definitely went down during the Fantasy Suite. But then
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: we have no background, and so that's why it doesn't
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: feel it doesn't feel so significant. Maybe, um, as we
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: watch it and we see the breakup, because we don't
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: know where this conversation went. We don't know if there
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: is a complete disagreement on faith and belief in worldview.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: We don't know if they align at some level, but
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: there's some critical things that they just disagree on. Like
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I have no clue what they were talking about there.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I can make assumptions. I can say, you know, they disagree,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: but I don't know any context to this, And that's
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: why that breakup to me fell short. We've we've fallen
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: in love with Ivan and fell in love with his family. Um,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: we obviously know that Tasia and him have a connection
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: and that something was going well there, but this breakup
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: just felt empty to me as a viewer, didn't to them.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: And that's really who matters, because I just have no
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: clue what they were talking about. I know they kept
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: throwing the word religion around there. I don't know what
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: that means. I don't know what they mean by that. Well,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: we can assume it happened the fantasy suite and it
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: was significant enough for her to use it as the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: reason for them to break up, and he seemed to understand,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: like that's the thing that I also want a hint
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to Like, yes, it could feel like a cop out,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: but I don't think it was, because there was obviously
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: something that happened between them where he sat there and says,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I know, like I get it and I understand. Okay,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: so I guess what I mean cop out. I just
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: mean like, it's not he would have been eliminated in
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: my opinion, had it been for the religion conversation or not. Okay,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: fair enough, but that just fell short. That's that's my take. Okay.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: So then we meet the family and Ben bends up first.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: The family loves Ben. After this, I was like, oh crap,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: because you know, I've been like so team Zack and
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: all this, I'm like, oh crap, the family is knocking
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: like Zack and this is why she's going to have
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: that mental breakdown before before the proposal, you know, like
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: while she's in the dress. We like saw that tease
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of her like just breaking down, and then we saw
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that stern conversation that her dad had with her and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: am I wrong? And the fact that I feel like
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: that clip of the dad sternly talking to her was
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: never aired in the episode. Not wasn't he was. They
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: showed him saying it, but he was kind of just
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: referencing a care for his girl by saying, hey, I
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: just want you to be smart here, kind of don't
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: make the wrong decision. I know this matters to you.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: But it was never never at all. Yeah, okay, so
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that was well that comes later and it was a
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: big tease for us, you know, like that seemed like
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it was gonna be a dramatic moment. Wasn't a dramatic
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: moment at all. If anything, it felt like filler content.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: It felt like we were supposed to get nervous for it,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: but there was really nothing nerve racking about it anyway.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, But but Ben's date went so well that
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the dad liked I keep saying the dad. It's like
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the dad was obviously just like such a patriarch of
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the family, and and Tastia just has a very sweet
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: father daughter relationship with him. I felt like there was
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: so much weight on her dad's opinion of the guys,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: but it seemed like he liked both guys. I would
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: say that maybe Zach had more of a chemistry with
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the family, not like far and beyond. I think we
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: didn't get to see like a whole ton because it
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: may have like just been if we saw Zack super
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: jiving with the family, then it would have just been
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: so obvious where it was headed, and they just needed
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to keep a little bit of sense of mystery at
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: that point. Is there anything that you felt that was
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: really worth mentioning about either of the family meetings? No,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the one thing worth mentioning is
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: it was a It was a good depiction of who
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: her like, who her mom and dad are right and
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the in the siblings like it. It went well. He
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the dad was not judgmental, um, but he had a
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: really good grasp of kind of who these two dudes
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: are as humans. I did, though, think the same thing
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you did. I think that when he left Ben, I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, he really likes Bean, but her dad
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: is a smart dude, and I think he saw that, like, hey,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: it's a good guy. But Zack. When Zach speaks to well,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: he's a man, and he he speaks in a way
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: like I know he is my daughter, and he asked
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: that he speaks about Tastia. He doesn't just speak about
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: himself like that. I think the dad saw there is
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: a deeper relationship there. Yes, I agree. Yeah, the way
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: you could just tell that he was the more mature
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: one of the two of them. Yeah, um. And then
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I just love the way that he was talking about
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Tassia's relationship with her dad and how important that he
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: that was for him to like see, um, okay, so
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: then yeah, Tatia's dad that weird pow wow brunch thing
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: in the morning when we were like, okay, wow, way
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: to scare us for no reason. Then we go to
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Zack and Tatia's one on one, the last date of
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: the season, and it was such a magical one. It
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: was so magical I had to rewind it. I wanted
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: to watch them dance again. The way that he looked
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: at her, It's that is what dreams are made of. Yep,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: it was so good. It was so good. And you know,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: we're just like over here screaming, being like if he
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: she doesn't pick zact like everything in this world is
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: upside down. I almost see you getting emotionals. This is
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: this like your fairy tale movie that you and Jared
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: like to like reenact now, but this is like I
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: felt like I was watching a rom com. Yeah, so
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: in a way, I understand what you're trying to say. Yes,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I felt like over the past couple of episodes watching
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the two of them, my heart fluttered as if I
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: was watching a romantic movie. It just felt so good. Okay,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: so the dance obviously super magical, and I feel like
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the word magical is like cliche, but it just was magical.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: And then we go into the date night and it
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: was just more of that amazing chemistry. Just feel the
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: vibes through the TV, and Zack says he'll do whatever
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: to hold onto the lapse and the smiles that they have,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and like he's he's never going to let her go.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: And he says that the fact that he's been nine
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: years sober in that anniversary was that night, allows him
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: not to run away. He has to face life as
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: it comes his way. He says, he understands loyalty and commitment,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and he knows why he loves her, and you know
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: she loves that he's somebody that she can just rely on.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: You just feel so much security in this relationship. There
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: there's that. Yeah, he said some things during this episode
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: that again kind of like went beyond the show, and
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: that statement right there is one that like just really
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: took me back in the back of my seat, and
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: all of us in the room that we're watching look
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: at each other and said, that's that's good. Not just
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: good because it's good TV. You know, he's not just
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: saying the right thing. What he says is this, and
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I think all of the take a second and learn
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: from Zack on this. He says, Hey, when you go
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: through tough stuff, what I've learned is you gotta sit
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: through it. You gotta work through it. You can't run
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: away from it. You can't act like it disappears. It
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't come easy. It doesn't mean things are gonna be
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: easier any faster. But you start to learn, and you
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: grind and you work, and that's where life gets raw
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: and real. Now though there's one word that we that
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: you can summarize that statement, Zack has matured to a
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: place where he is starting to take accountability for his actions,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: his mistakes, also his successes. He has accountability. He's not
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: always a victim. He doesn't blame everybody else around him,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: he doesn't come up with excuses. No, he is taking accountability.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And when you get to that level, you know you
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: can't you can't enjoy anything you don't own, and you
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: also can't learn from anything that you dismiss. And he isn't.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: He's doing both those things. And that's when I said
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that this dude I was questionable at times about Zach.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: That's when it went to me and said, no, that
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: dude's ready, Like this is good, this is that's deep
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: and and I was learning from I was sitting there thinking, Hey,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: what if I made excused about my life recently? What
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: if I tried to dismiss and push off to the
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: side that I don't want to take accountability for like
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I was asking myself those questions from his statement and
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I and that's good. Yeah, he knows himself inside and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: out so deeply and he's not afraid to articulate it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I just love it. I love it. So after this date,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: of course, such a such a transformative sort of date,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: just like you know, she knows exactly what she's doing.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: She does not want to take Bet on the date.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: She knows her heart is made up. So she goes
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and she she breaks up with Ben. A poor guy.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: It's like, so I left, I came back, I met
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: your family, and now I'm just gonna leave again. But
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: he was very understanding of it. He really handled it
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: the best anybody could. Mm hmm, I agree, I mean
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: he did it was it was like sad because it's
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: kind of like he's just getting like I don't know,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: then kicked around and kicked her out a little bit. Um.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Well done for Tasia. But at this point in the episode,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: like I'm I don't think anybody's shocked that Ben's going home.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: We're all like, if this ends up with Ben, then
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: this whole finale was worthless because the whole thing has
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: been leaning up to a beautiful ending for zack plantation. Yeah,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: and it was so Zach picks the kneel lane ring. Uh. He's,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously nervous because he doesn't know what's going
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to happen. Um that whole little like lead up him
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: in the car and her out there. She doesn't have
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: this cry fest that we all thought she was. But
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: what was so wonderful was seeing her chat with Chris
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Harrison in which she basically says, knowing Zach and how
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I feel towards Zack, it makes me feel like I've
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: never been really truly in love before until him. That
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: was awesome And we knew where that was. You know,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: we knew it was going to lead to engagement if
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: that's how she felt. And you know, Zach just did
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: did the damn thing. You know, said that he loves
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: her because she's a fighter, a strong, independent woman who
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: believes in him and his dorc and drives him wild.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Nothing has ever felt so right in his entire life.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: He talks about the first date they had by the
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Fountain when they said that everything happens for a reason,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: and he knows that that reason it's her. He said
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: that he thought a lot about about what could go wrong,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: but he's going into this without fear. And then of
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: course says, like the most wonderful things back that like,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: you know, she loves him so much that she never
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: thought that she was going to get married again because
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: she hit rock bottom after her last after her divorce. Um,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and she loves him, but it's more than that. And
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: then she stops and gives him a heart attack and uh,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: then says, but this is beyond love, this is wild
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: love or something like that, and then the relief on
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: his face huh, so so good. He says he's going
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: to choose her forever, that he can't imagine a moment
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: without her in his life. Um. His Oh, and when
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: he stopped, when he brought up his family and he
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: had to close his eyes and like gather himself, and
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: he had to whisper about how his family hadn't seen
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: him that happy before, and that was the moment that
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: he knew she was the one. That was just that
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: was the moment. It just doesn't get better on TV
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: than that moment. Then he drops to one knee says,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: marry me, and they danced, you know the then then
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: then then they get the cab and the cardboard cab,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: and now I can't talk anymore because it's just so cute.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: And yes, I'm going to rewatch it again today because
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: it was a magical, magical Um Bachelor finale, Ben, do
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: you have anything to add? Sorry, I just kind of
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: went on a monologue there. It's all good. Now, it's
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: beautiful and it's something to celebrate. We're so happy for
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Asian Zach. Uh. We'll hopefully have one of them, if
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: not both of them on very soon to the podcast.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Give them a little time to breathe here, to celebrate
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: themselves and to start to become public. But just what
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: what a finale, one that, like you said, we've been
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: waiting for. Um, the show's entertaining. Not every year goes well,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: not every year has their happy ending, but this is
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: one that definitely, I think we can all sit here
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and say this was good, This was entertaining, It was enjoyable,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: but it was real. And so we're wishing Tasia and
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Zach the absolute best as they move forward with their
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: love story now publicly, and we're excited to watch it
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: along the way. Um, what a season it was, Uh,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you know, as I said, A plus seasons. It's just
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: a really great, a great time for us all. Well, hey,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: actually let's take a little breather. You collect yourselves, You
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: collect yourself, take a drink of water. I know you're
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: you're all happy over there. When we come back and
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: actually have Joe Park on um to discuss everything is
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: going on in his life. Know he just got the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: vaccine and also just how full his d M s are. Well, hey,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: we'll be back with almost Famous podcast. Okay, guys, we
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: have fan favorite Joe Park on the line. We all
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: love Joe. He was an undercover sweetness of this season,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: a single thirty six year old doctor who looks like
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: that and has that kind of soul. We're very we're
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: very confused as to why he's single. Hey Joe, why
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: are you single? Hey, Ashley, that's what you and my
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: mom I should talk because she's been asking me that
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: for a few years now. I don't have a great
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: answer for you. Um, I know it's not every girl updated,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: that's that's for sure. So it's probably something to do
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: with me, and there's something but I'm trying to figure
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: that also out also, But obviously you know, still out
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: there trying to trying to make it happen. You know, well,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: since the show, did you have you just been getting
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: your inbox on Instagram and it totally full, like any
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: way a woman can contact you. Are you just getting overloaded? Um? Um,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: So that's a really good question. I don't. Actually, I
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: don't use social media very often. And I have been
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: looking at the through the d M s for old
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: high school friends and college friends and med school friends
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: who actually have reached out. And that's been one of
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the coolest parts of the whole experience, just to reconnect
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: with people who I care so much about, who just
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: you know, over time you lose touch with um. But
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: interspersed between those messages are a lot of messages from women,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: and I have no idea how to do it. I
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: don't respond to any of them, just because I don't
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: know what do I do with that. It just seems
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: very it's very hard. Ben knows what to do with it.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: You just say hello to that. Now I know why
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: you're single, and I'm glad you're single. I'm very excited
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: because you're single, so that we could watch you on
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: our television screens for the weeks that we did. Um,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and that makes me happy. America falls in love with you, Joe.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Now my advice to you, uh is to consider these
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: d m s. That's how I found my fiance. Now
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: she didn't DM me, I d M her. Um. But
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the d ms work, buddy, Uh, they work well. So Hey,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I want to start with this. We obviously are celebrating
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Taia season. UM. And this is a season that I
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: would say most really for the first time that we've
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: done this podcast, most people are very positive on Tasia
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: uh and uh and kind of how the whole season
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: played out. But if you sat here tonight, uh. And
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: obviously now the finale is over, we all know what happened. Um.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: But before the finale, did you have any clue how
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: this was gonna end? No? I did, I didn't. Um.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: It was such an odd turn, even starting from the
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: very beginning. I just want to say how weird it
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: is to see because I've spent a lot of time
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: with all those guys, and just from the very beginning
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: you talked about guys to start from the bottom, and
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: now they're there. I mean, these were like forgot forgotten
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: guys pretty much. You know, the final four, in the
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: final three and the final two, these guys are afterthoughts
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: in the clear portion and now they're on top. And
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: it's so cool to see that happen to such great guys.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: And I definitely didn't see how I didn't see that
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: one happening for sure. I mean it was definitely, um,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: we're great guys, but I just thought the connection was
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: might have been stronger with with Ivan. Um, you know,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: from my vantage point. But you know, the heart wants
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: what the heart wants, and you know, none of us
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: know the relationship fully just because we get these snippets,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: you know, So it's well, you know, I just want
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: to add this before you get into you, Joe, and
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: there's a lot to dig in you personally. But it's interesting. Actually,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you had this happened to you
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: during your season of the Bachelor, But you know I
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: was in the final three, right, yeah, third, I was
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: let go three, and I had no clue how it
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: ended until I watched the finale. Like everybody kept in
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: a secret, I was very like I was watching the
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: finale kind of like you were shocked at the end,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: surprised at the end. Uh. It's kind of interesting how
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: that happens. You can be on the show for so
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: long know these guys and then not know what what
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: what ends up with it all? Yeah, there's a there's
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: a there's a there's a limit, there's like to a
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: certain number of maybe the final four or three. You
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: kind of know how people go. But after that there's
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: a shroud of mystery that's covered. Yeah, Jared didn't think
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: that Caitlin ended up with anyone, which added to the
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: reason that he wasn't so much over her when he
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: joined Bachelor in Paradise and the cast, like the cast
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: of girls who were more in the loop with Caitlin
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: than the cast of guys was we Um had to
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: tell what we told him, and he was like, yeah,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I heard of Caitlin ends up with no one, and
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: we're like, like Jared Sean. So it was like a
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: shock to him. Um, but hey, bygones, right, you know
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: we're past that, Jared and Jared, Yes, I do remember that. No,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: but okay, let's get into you. Joe. So, my dad's
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: an antitusiologists. You know that I felt like a certain
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: kinship with you because of that. Um, what happened when
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: when you told your group, which which hospital do you
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: work at? New York? I'm in my mind used down
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Okay, So when you told the group, I'm
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: gonna need some time off, a chunk of time because
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the bachelorette, how did the docs respond?
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: So the guy I reported directly is this elderly Indian man,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: and he's like the bachel what you know. He's like, like,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: what does that mean? You need time off for the bachelor?
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: And I tried to explain to him and he's like,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: it was such an odd conversation. I had to tell him. Yeah,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: so there's like thirties, so my guys, who's who are
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: there for one girl? And you go and everyone dates
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: at the same time, and he was like, has this
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: quizzical look. And eventually I was just like, it's a
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: TV show and they want me to be part of
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: this TV show and it's like a crazy once in
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: a lifetime about kind of opportunity. And that's kind of
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: what got through to him. And it was an odd
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: time where elected surgeries were. HM was right past the
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: height of COVID and um, yeah, obviously there there weren't. Yeah,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: there was. There wasn't that much work, and the COVID
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: case actually gotten down significantly. From a height of around
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: like you know, three thousand cases down to like six
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: cases in July. So it's scutally the perfect time for
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: me to um to go. There was enough works. Were
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: you not out of the original cast with Claire that
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: was set to record in March? Yeah, that's that's correct.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I'm one of the Yeah, the new guys.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: How did that play out? Like? Did that work? Were
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you in casting that they had you gone to a
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: casting call or did they reach out to you randomly?
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: How did it happen? So my my mom actually works
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: for ABC, so she just asked on the executives to
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: now I'm just kidding out, somebody from the show, somebody
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: from the show reach out to me um to social media,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: and I didn't respond for a few days. I had
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: no idea what it was about. Um. It was sometime
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: early spring, and I eventually reached out and they said, hey,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: we just like to chat um over the phone. And
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: then that led to a zoom call and another room
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: call and another room call and everything happened literally from
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: like from where I'm sitting right now, essentially, so I'm
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: gonta do anything. There's no like, there's no travel to
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: l A and then come back here. It was really
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: really easy to do it, and I just kept rolling
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: with it, and then eventually they're like, hey, like you
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: can fly out on this day. And then I was like,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. See you need to answer
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: those d m s. See what happens in me listen.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Then then you might be on something. You really might
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: be honest something here. So now, when you go into
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the pre op area and you meet your patients for
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: the first time, how many of them have recognized you
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: and gotten kind of g I've I've been asked that before,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: but thinking about patients who need surgery, most of them
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: are like you know, generally over fifty and you know,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: where I work, a lot of the population is like
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: either Russian or Chinese or like Orthodox Jewish, so um,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: not many, to be honest with you. And it's kind
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: of cool that way because they could, like, you know,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I'm judged on the merit of my professionalism and my
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: character who as they know me and not the guy
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: who played Trip Dodgeball and TV. So I'm okay with that,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: But how many how many doctors and nurses are geeking
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: out about your appearance on the show that's yeah, that's
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: probably better question. I think a good amount um. And
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: it's so weird because it's like the same people have
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: walked the same halls with who I've you know, working
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: side by side with um. All of a sudden, there's
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: like a lot of times like I see people look
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: looking at me, and then sometimes like at end of
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: a shift, very respectfully, somebody like someone will just ask, hey,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: could you take a selfie? And I'm like like, like,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: can we just take a picture with you? I'm like, like,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: what do you think? Picturely? Whatever you want, I'll say it.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Like it's just a like you guys have been through
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: this now now you guys are like ingrained. You guys
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: are like you know actually actually when you were you
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: were on set. One of the piacer has told me,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: you don't know who Ashley is, Like she's I will
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: remember these words forever. He knows who he is, he said, verbatim,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: She's Bachelor Royalty. That's where come from. I mean, I
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: don't hate it. He knows who he is too, so anyway,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: but it is weird to me. It's just like just
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: like walking around and like just people, you know, it's
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: just like you wanta take. Like I always tell people,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: it's weirder for me that you're asking me than this,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: for you to ask me to take a picture. I'm
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: like you, whatever you want, I don't care. Yeah, I
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: don't take a picture. It's just it's wildly Yeah. Well,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: it's a level of respect you get for going on
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: the reality television show. It's always the funniest thing is
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: you go on a reality telem so and now people
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: really love you more than they did before. Joe, you
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: were beloved by vaccination, there's no question about it. You
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: come off of this whole experience now, right, and you
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: had a good experience. I'm imagining it's been really good
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: for you overall. There's no big negatives, there's no rumors
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: swirling or or hate really being thrown at you. If
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: if you dug deep within yourself, how does it feel
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: to be sitting in the place that you're sitting now,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: being having these pictures taken of you at work and
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: knowing the positive impact you've had on people's lives. Has
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: it affected you at all as a human? Oh? Man, Um,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: I will say, I'm the fact, like, I want to
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: go back to your point, to the fact that again,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: not being part of social media and not honestly following
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: any celebrities on social media. I still and I'm such
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: a so cool to get to talk about this because
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: something that's been on my mind. I don't understandstand exactly
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: this culture, this this like why like someone posted recently,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: I know what I names with, somebody posted recently from
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: the show they were making checks Mix, and I'm like,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I kept thinking, why do you think people want to
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: you the media? You're making checks mix? Why do you
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: actually millions end? Whatever? And what am I missing about
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: this whole world? That that's both those things are true,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: And so I don't quite understand. But I will say this,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't know how people feel.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do know from comments and such, and
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I appreciate your your really kind words. But I do
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: think what i've what I've the conclusion I've come to
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: is like it or not for whatever reason that I
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: don't understand. I do have a platform, you know, now,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I do have a certain amount of people who will
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: view things I've post. And I recently posted a video
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: about um just explaining the vaccine and how it came
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: to be, and then I posted something I posted another
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: video series of Instagram stories about me getting the vaccine,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: and again, these are the things that I realized, like
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: like it or not, Like there is some good, some
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: real good that come out of, you know, going on
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: this semi silly reality TV show. And I think that's
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: that's changed my whole perspective on everything. Isn't that cool?
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Do you after? So we see Dr Chris Strandberg. He
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: was a dentist from Ben season. He is on the
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: commercials for water Pick. He's like the official spokesperson. He
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: goes on The Doctors all the time and talk about dentistry.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Dr Travis Stork, one of the hosts of the Doctors,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: was a bachelor. Uh do you see yourself? Um kind
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: of being another TV doctor? Uh making appearances on Dr
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Rozz and stuff because of because of you youroriety. Now,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I will say this, I take and I don't want
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: to disparage because you know Dr Ozz was like a
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: card class certain he was like he's a real real doctor.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know what Dr Stork does, but I take, like,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I think medicine really really really seriously, and it is
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: for me, like it's such a calling and I would
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: never want to be put in a position where I
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: would have to endorse this anti aging hair growing like
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: limb lengthen and gummy. That's you know, is all the rage.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Like I would never want to have to like talk
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: about that with any type of real UM. I don't
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: want to give any credence at all. And so I'm
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: not sure if that's for me. I think I would,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I think I would just make a couple
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: of videos about things that I'm interested in. I think public,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: the public maybe shouldn't health related um just so they're aware,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: because I just think so much. Vaccine is a great example.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: So much of what people fear is the unknown. You know.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: It's like the same reason why people feel the groot,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: feel the dark, or like the deep dark ocean. It's
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: like if you knew there was nothing there, you wouldn't
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: be afraid. And so I think, like with the vaccine,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: it's as long as people have more knowledge, they're less fearful,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: and then maybe it's more okay to taking it. So yeah,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I love that about it. It's a it's a good
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: segue into this. So we have just a few more
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: minutes left with you. We do want to talk about
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: the vaccine. This is a platform that people listen to.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: You have received the vaccine, now, um, what is your experience?
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: How would you tell listeners out there as the vaccine
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: kind of starts to go through the phase one phase
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: to phase three and it starts to reach us. All Um,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: So I've made a quick video about it, and I
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: think I could definitely cover more in that seven minute
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: video that I than I could come here, But I
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: will say, um, they're what there it is study, the
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: studies have done that have been done. I've shown it
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: is safe. There's a large study. Um. It has now
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: been approved in the you know promogency use in the UK,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: the US, brain Canada and thus far even still in
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: this larger population people who have gotten it, it's still
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: hasn't shown to be that that many ill effects. There
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: are two cases in the UK, but actually we're not
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: sure if that was from the medication or from the
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: late text component within the the packaging. So I'm gonna
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: say it's safe, but again, do the research, Um, talk
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: to your doctor about it if you have any specific
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: medical conditioning you're worried about. But um, but again, thus far, um,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: I have had no ill effects from an a ciphromo
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: store on uh slightly store on the next day and them,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep posting, maybe so often, just to show people, Hey,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: like you know, I trust it. I've been fine so far,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: and if I'm not, I'll let you know. To so far,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I've been good. Yeah, We'll make sure you go chest
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: expect Joe's Instagram. I'm assuming it's on Instagram for those
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: videos and the updates, and thanks for sharing with us,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: and we we we couldn't let you go without asking
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: the obvious. If you are still single, and I know
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: you hope not to be, but in a few months
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: if you are, would you be down to do Bachelor
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: in Paradise? Oh? Man, people love asking this question. Um,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know enough about it to be honest with you.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I'd probably have to watch an episode or two to
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: see what it's all about, so I couldn't really tell you.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take a day by day maybe interesting
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: d m s. Thank you, Ben, and uh see see
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: where what happens from there. Um, But I wouldn't be
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: a completely opposed to it. It's um, it was an
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: amazing experience and again there is you know, not going
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: too much detail but like kind of what I said before,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: there is a potential for like real good to come
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: out of reality television, and I don't think you can
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: take that for granted. So I think you'd be a
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: very popular date choice down in Salulita. So we'll see.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here with us, Joe,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Dr Joe, Yeah, Dr je Man, thank you, and we
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: hope to see you Bachelor Paradise. I mean, if you
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: don't go, I don't know what we're gonna talk about.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: You have to go, so we have content for this podcast. Um, Ashley,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: it was great seeing you again. It was doing nice
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: to meeting you down in Palm Springs. So good seeing
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: you then and so good meeting you. I was like,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: watch out for this guy. You guys, you guys were
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: a good group of guys collectively. We're really we're really
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: happy with you. Yeah. I feel lucky that it was
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: great for you guys too, because I've got a lot
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: of great friends from it, so I feel the same way. Well, Hey,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: thanks Joe, appreciate you. Man. Fine, it's Bachelor Headlines Time,
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• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: it's a big one, uh really big. See the elegant
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: three point to five carrot engagement rings Zach Clark gave
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: bachelorette Tasia Adams. Okay, yeah, so it's the three point
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: five carrots. Damn. It's an emerald cut. So if you
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: guys know your cuts, you saw that last night. It's
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: supposed to be very vintage in fashion high style. It's
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: inspired by the nineteen twenties. This is what Neil Lane says.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: He said that this is what he said after his
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: sit down with Zach. He goes, he's a very nice guy.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: He's smitten with her, and talked about her kindness, poise
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: in her honesty. He says that he also told him
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: that he'd been married before, and Zac was very thoughtful
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: about Tasia and honest about respecting their individual journeys. Neil
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: also said that he was certain nervous and excited at
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: the same time, but that the ring that he chose
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: was classic, bright, very very elegant. The emerald cut is,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: you know, a simple, elegant shape, and and that's elegant
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: just like Tasia. He loved how simple it was. It's massive,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: it's so big. Well, hey, here's an interesting side note,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: and I doubt the show did this on purpose, but
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: you know what followed our last global pandemic, the Spanish flu.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: You know what what followed that, right? Was it like
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: a diamond rush or something? No, it was the Roaring twenties,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: exactly what. This ring is modeled after the Roaring twenties
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: where everybody went out got super fashionable. Uh, you know,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: partied together because they've it separated for so long. Uh.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Interesting and oh this could be the new growing twenties. Well, hey, Ashley,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: next headline is this. We talked about it earlier and
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: we're getting a little more information on it now. Ba's
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: are at Tashia Adams says religion was one of the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: reasons she broke up with Ivan Hall. This according to Intername,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: and this according to Entertainment Tonight. So Tasia talked to
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Laurence Ema this week jealous. She said that she thinks
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: that the beauty of the Fantasy Suites is that you
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: have the opportunity to really talk about the things that
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: you might be shy about talking about on camera. So, okay,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: this is definitely addressing the questions that you had earlier.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: They did talk about religion in the Fantasy Suite. She said,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: it's really when you dive into the nitty gritty of
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: a relationship and what the future could possibly look like. Sure,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: religion was one of those reasons, but there were multiple
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: things that we talked about that night that kind of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: didn't align. At the end of the day, I was
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: just looking at my relationships with Zach and Ivan, and
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I just my future with Zachary Surprised she didn't say
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Zach Clark. She loves saying his full name is Zach Clark,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Zach Clark. Um. She said that it's where her heart
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: led her, and um, I can only just lead with
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: that her heart and unfortunately her relationship with Ivan just
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: head in. The next headline is this and it answers
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: another question that we've been asking ourselves throughout this podcast.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison reveals why it wasn't possible to have the
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Bachelorette after the Final Rose Disaccording to e Online, Okay,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: so I don't even I don't really even understand why
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: we couldn't have a simple zoom call between Harrison and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Taitia that was live, because Chris says that the reason
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: that they couldn't have and after the Final Rose is
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: because it's just like so it's like painstaking. It's a
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: painstaking process. You know, it's like really hard to get
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: those live shows done. He said there was no AFR
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: because of the holidays and the difficulty of bringing people
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: together safely during this time. It just wasn't possible. But
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: hopefully we'll have a fr back for the Bachelor. Um,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, does it really take a
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of people to just have one live zoom?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, don't chose do that like the Today Show
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: all the time, Like, why couldn't we have fifteen minutes
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: or something? I don't get it. I don't either. I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they're not doing it. I really
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: would love to see this couple now, right, I mean,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I think that's something all of us would like to see.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: So it's a little bit frustrating. However, I have a
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: feeling that I don't know if I'm right or wrong.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: But you know, Matt James, this season is right around
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: the corner, and we'll talk about that just a bit.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: I haven't feeling that Zach and Tasha will be showing
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: up on that season, and maybe there we'll get our
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: first sneak on the Bachelor episodes of the couple. That
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: could be good. That makes sense that they'll have like
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: a season catch up with them or something. Yeah, definitely. Well,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: actually a headline that hits close to home and isn't
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: ideal to talk about, but it is some bastor news. Uh.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Just recently, within the last really two hours, um, it
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: was announced that Carly uh Addele and Evan Bass are
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: separating after three years of marriage. Yeah. This is obviously
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: awkward for Ben and I have discussed because this headline
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: popped up, you know, while we were on this podcast
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: recording it, and we are friends with both of them
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: and we haven't had a chance to talk to them yet.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: So here we are just reading a press release that
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: our friends put out. But the quote is, we have
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: made the difficult decision to separate. We will always cherish
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: our time together and continue to have the utmost respect
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: for one another as we focus on what's best for
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: the future of our family. We greatly appreciate everyone's love
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: and support and kindly ask that you please respect our
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: family's privacy as we navigate through this tough Yeah. It's
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: not not ideal and hurts to read, not something to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: be celebrated, not something that is fun to talk about,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: but it is true. They release their statement, their joint
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: statement together. He're just not more than an hour ago,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Ashley the Bachelor's sneak peek happened, and uh, we're ready
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: for Matt James's season. I mean, come on, how good
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: does this sneak peak look? It looks like the girls
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: are going to be a huge footbo point. This is
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: maybe going to be like one of those seasons where
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: the lead almost takes a backseat to the uh, personality
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: filled cast. These girls are dramatic. They seem a little caddy.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: They're at each other's throats for a lot of this
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: at this tea uh. And then Matt just seems to
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: be in the background being like, Wow, I'm having a
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: hard time. Yeah, I mean knowing Matt too. He he knows. Okay,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: let's all listeners, let's put this into perspective. This man
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: has never been on a television show before he saw
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: his buddy go on the show. His buddy had a
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: unique experience on this show. He comes off the show
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: and everybody's talking about Tyler Cameron. So Matt James kind
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: of gets a social media falling from it. Then Matt
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: James becomes a bachelor. He's a terrific dude, but quiet,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: more reserve. Everybody loves him. He gets thrown into the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: show that is so overwhelming no matter who you are
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: and how much experience you've had doing it, it's overwhelming.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: And then he has a cast I will say right
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: now might be the most dramatically from the sneak peak,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: could be the most dramatic cast that we've seen ever. Like,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: it looks like they are yelling. That looks like there's
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: no holds bar, it looks like it's everybody for each other.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: It is, and and I haven't watched this season. Nobody's
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: watched this season yet. Here's my take. Actually, coming off
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: of a season like this, I don't want to see
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: a dramatic season. Me neither been. I was like, I
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody saw that proposal, and then then saw
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: the tease and was like, oh, I'm excited for that. No,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: like I we want to like maybe some people out
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: there like there always there always is something entertaining in
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit of drama. But we've had seasons before
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: where it's been yelling at each other the whole time.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: It's and it's hard to watch. It's not fun to watch.
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  Speaker 1: People are hurt in the process, people are made fun
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  Speaker 1: of in the process. It's not good for us to
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  Speaker 1: break down because we end up saying the wrong thing
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  Speaker 1: all the time because we don't know how to break
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  Speaker 1: it down. Like I want to see a lot of story,
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  Speaker 1: or at least the attempt at wine. And this just
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  Speaker 1: felt like too much to me. Yeah, And I was
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  Speaker 1: just saying, you know how it's been so long since
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  Speaker 1: we had such a happily ever after moment like we had,
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  Speaker 1: and we were all just like swooning at the TV
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  Speaker 1: screen last night, and we love that. That's why we
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: watched the show. We watched the show for a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of jaw dropping, you know, sound bites and such,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't watch it for fighting. And I would
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  Speaker 1: say that if it's gonna be a Caddie bunch, the
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  Speaker 1: girls that are mature and like really there for him,
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  Speaker 1: and the ones that I think he's going to hit
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  Speaker 1: it off with are going to be the ones that
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  Speaker 1: stay out of it, and they'll be even brighter lights.
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  Speaker 1: It is gonna be dramatic season. I mean, they always are, right,
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  Speaker 1: but hopefully we get through the first five weeks and
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  Speaker 1: like you said, the ones that haven't been in the
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  Speaker 1: mix of the drama kind of rise to the top
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  Speaker 1: and we can start to celebrate and make this season
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  Speaker 1: a little easier to watch. But no matter what, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be watching this season, uh and talking about it
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  Speaker 1: with you the absolute whole time. That's what's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we're gonna be here. Well, hey, Ashley, onto
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  Speaker 1: the next headline. Um, you know, have gone through the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: Colton cast situation. We know Cassie and Colton moved their
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: separate ways now and Cassie Randolph is according to People,
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor's Cassie Randolph shows offer Elli apartment before moving
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  Speaker 1: the quota is she's gonna miss this place. Where's she going?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where she's going. So we know that
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  Speaker 1: she's still in school. She graduating right now. She might
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: be in the midst of graduating. Yeah, so that's exciting
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  Speaker 1: for her, and I guess that's going to give her
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  Speaker 1: you know, Um, I think she was doing a lot
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  Speaker 1: of classes online this week here, so I guess she
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  Speaker 1: could have probably been doing it from anywhere. But I
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  Speaker 1: know that Cassie, I think prefers the beach life down
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  Speaker 1: in hunting Cohamton Beach, where she grew up, which is
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  Speaker 1: only like forty five minutes away from where her apartment
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  Speaker 1: is in l A. But I think, I think, just
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  Speaker 1: if I were to get a guest here, that Cassie's
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  Speaker 1: gonna head closer to the shore, maybe closer to family
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  Speaker 1: and out of l A proper. You know, I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: I thought she was living with her family. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see it her own. Oh, she lives with her sister
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  Speaker 1: Michelle in the apartment. But yeah, yeah, but the girls
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  Speaker 1: are home all the time, or so it seems on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: Close family that ran DoLS Well. Hey, Sean Lowe, speaking
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  Speaker 1: of family, share sweet photo of kids, gives nod to
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: wife Catherine trophies from The Bachelor for people so cute.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: It's such a cute picture. But then again, what picture
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: of their kids isn't cute? Their kids are so so adorable. Um.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: His caption was, these are my trophies from the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: Would have preferred a cash prize, but I'll take it.
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  Speaker 1: That is cute. But he also, you know, they got
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: a little they got a little sensitive. He goes dad
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  Speaker 1: to too many kids. It's moments like these where I
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: have to stop and thank God for his goodness, I
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: don't deserve these s'mores. Very cute. Well, I'm telling you
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: this now, these kids are absolutely beautiful, Like, what a
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: cute family. However, especially with the oldest, I'm not seeing Sean.
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  Speaker 1: They he doesn't look at all like them, Like he
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: has this like brown curly wavy here. Uh you know
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  Speaker 1: he's there. But their kids are absolutely I know, they're
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: so cute. He is something. He looks like he could
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: be a little model. No, that's it. Well, hey, happy
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: for the two of them. Obviously a very successful love
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: story from the bachelor world that's still celebrated by so
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: many today. So yes, go to Shan Lowe's instagram to
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: see the sweet photo posted um by the dad of three.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: The final headline of this week is Beca Martinez hits
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Instagram once again. Now this with a shall I say,
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  Speaker 1: like pregnant big announcement, not a big announcement, actually, what's
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: going on? Not a big announcement, but she made it
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: look like a big announcement. And gosh you I love
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: that Martinez his Instagram. I tell her all the time
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: and like, you are one of the few people that
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: I watch your stories from start to finish. I get
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: excited when there's a new one up. I just think
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: her content is I don't know what it is. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of magnetic for me. I just think that she's
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: so real and she's so natural talking to her phone.
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  Speaker 1: When I saw this come up, it was a Gray
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Gray's Christmas surprise. So Gray is her boyfriend, and she's
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: holding in the still image before the video a pregnancy
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: test with the baby. So everybody initially thinks, oh my god,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: she's pregnant again and she's gonna surprise Gray for Christmas
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: with the positive test. No, no, she goes and not
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: this time. She throws away the test and then she
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: pulls up to the front of Gray's work with a
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: new truck, and somebody inside that works with him said,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: somebody's in your truck outside, dude, you better go check
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: it out. And then he runs outside and sees her
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: with the new truck and his old truck, the one
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: she's replacing. It was twenty three years old, so very
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: very cute and nice Christmas surprise there. Well, Ashley, you
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: get your boyfriend a truck for Christmas. That's gonna be
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: a hard gift to top. Actually, do you think this
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: season top getting a truck for Christmas or a new car.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Let's let's just say it's the Bachelor equivalent to get
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: a new car Christmas. Um next week is the only
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: off week between seasons, which is kind of incredible. But
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: we will not be taking off. We'll be here talking
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Bachelor headlines and breaking down Matt's bunch of contestants. You know,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: we'll be doing our whole pre judgmental thing just by
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: looking at pictures and bios. So been right, never even
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: been close, not even I literally have failed at this
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: every time. But it's a blast to do it is.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: It is funny, but I always feel bad. I'm always like,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: oh god, I I hate judging people based on just
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: a picture. They always say, don't judge a book by
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: its cover. But that's what we do here on the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast one week every season. And we will
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: see you guys back there for that. We love you
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: so much. Merry Christmas, and we'll see you before there's
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: a new year. Until then, I've been Ashley and I've
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: been Ben. We'll talk to you soon. Everybody followed the
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