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[Ep 28] Whole-Person Health, Real Results → Can Faith & Science Align? | Dr. Austin Lake · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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  We are here with an episode that I've been looking forward to here on Performance Driven
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  Living because this guy put a social media post out there, and it's like there's a lot
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  of people that we talk to on social media, that we follow on social media, and I'm going
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  to say we follow them, and we never really know them, we don't get to know them, we're
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  not personal with them, but it's like we follow people and we think we know them because
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  of how much stuff that we absorb on there.
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  And one day I just out of nowhere sent this guy an inbox message and was like, hey, just
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  wanted to say hi, I don't know why I don't know you.
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  We move in a lot of similar circles and know all the same people, why don't I know you?
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  And it started a conversation that I love, and Dr. Austin Lake, I'm excited to have you
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  here joining us today because many people wouldn't realize this, but this is the first time
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  we've actually talked, is on this podcast, other than Instagram messages, back and forth.
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  So I appreciate them honored to have you here.
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  I tell you, I start every program and I read this because our production team puts together
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  these bios on you that I'm supposed to introduce you with and nothing I can say would ever actually
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  match the eloquence that they put together here.
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  So I intentionally read them every time and it says today's guest is flipping the script
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  on what it means to actually live an active, healthy life, especially for women navigating
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  midlife.
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  Dr. Austin Lake is a doctor of physical therapy, a functional medicine practitioner and the
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  creator of the active life program.
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  He's helped hundreds of women between the ages of 35 and 65 ditch the band-aid solutions,
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  reclaim their energy and start living pain-free without relying on medication.
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  His approach blends movement, science, functional medicine and real world practicality and it's
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  not about hacks, it's about actual healing.
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  Dr. Lake, welcome to the show.
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  Wow, yeah, I couldn't have said it better myself.
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  Your team is awesome.
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  That's why I just read it.
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  Yeah.
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  That's great.
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  I just gave up pretending.
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  I just read it at this point.
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  I'm like, I think this is great.
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  I'll just go ahead and read it and see what's going on with it.
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  Yeah, I appreciate the intro and I think part of the reason we haven't run across each
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  other is that I haven't been doing the social media thing very long and I think my exposure
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  and reach has just continued to increase.
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  You're over year but mostly the last year has been the biggest exponential growth and
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  you know, there's people say there's different reasons for in terms of strategy and social
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  media marketing, whatever you want to call it but I really do bring it back to the fact
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  that about two years ago I was just really actually more about two and a half.
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  I was just doing some soul searching about all things that hadn't happened during COVID
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  and I had a brick and mortar practice at that time where I was doing a functional medicine
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  practice and seeing people in person and all that stuff.
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  I went through all the COVID mess and I was in Colorado, don't tell anyone but never
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  shut down, never close my doors, kind of just kept things going because they're pressuring
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  a lot of people to shut down and to not see people and I was just like, look, if anyone
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  needs to be seen, it's now.
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  People need like real interaction, they need real help and I'm not going to close my doors
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  and by the grace of God I never had any issues with that and I'm still kind of amazed
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  by that because I was in Colorado but through all that just felt like I had seen enough
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  of what we were doing working so well with people that I just felt this huge conviction
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  to talk about it and talk about it in bigger platforms and bigger spaces and social media
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  was like the first thing that obviously came my mind but I just asked God, I was like,
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  God, I feel like this is a conviction you laid on my heart and I always told people
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  like somebody needs to do something, like somebody needs to like say something and do something
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  this is just madness and the conviction I kept getting was just like, well you do something
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  like you say something, like you have, you know enough about this stuff to like make
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  an impact so just do it you know and I felt that conviction but my prayer was like, okay
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  God if I'm going to do this I want you to open the floodgates and bring people to me
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  that need to hear this and you know it was literally that, like I'm not even joking
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  that night I prayed that I had a post go viral and it was like on vitamin D3 and K2 and
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  all this different stuff and and it was just kind of an eye opening experience of like wow
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  like people don't know this stuff and people are hungry for it and I guess the rest you
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  could say is history but yeah that's that's kind of I think why we have run into each other
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  is that my you know online presence has just really increased a lot the last year and you know
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  it's been fun but we're increasing a lot and just recently hitting a million Instagram followers
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  I would say that that's a that's a pretty big increase yeah I mean so a year ago
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  well I guess it was a year January I was like under 200,000 right so I wasn't you know nearly
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  where I was now where I'm now but part of what sparked that was again I had a post where
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  you know I just I explained how I lost a client that you know was current client that didn't like
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  me sharing my faith online like she didn't know that I was really an active Christian like she
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  she knew I was like religious or whatever is what she thought but I was saying some things that
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  were just too radical for her and she wanted you know her money back and all this stuff and I
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  just shared that I just shared like that experience and that's that was kind of another big push for
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  me but I guess the the whole point of all this is just that for me it's been just kind of eye opening
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  to see how people are hungry for for the truth and and they're hungry for authenticity right like
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  they're hungry for people who have took the word out of my mouth yeah like they they were sick and
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  tired of just like this mass media like just blanket statements and this is what you should
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  believe and ram it down our throats all the time and people just want to have good conversations
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  and talk to real people that are authentic about what they believe and that's all I've ever tried to
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  do and and the cool thing is is you know we've had some we've helped you know a few thousand women
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  changed their lives and like it's it's real stuff it's not like the social media stuff for me is
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  I just share what I've learned and what I've done I've never considered myself to be like an
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  influencer until I you know until I hit a million followers like I guess I can call myself that now
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  but up until that point it was always just like this is what I've seen work and this is what I've
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  this is what we're doing with real people and just trying to share those testimonies and stuff
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  like that so yeah and I mean you literally took the word out of my mouth because I was waiting for
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  you to complete your thought and I was going to tell you my prediction on why your social media has
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  climbed the the rate that it has is authenticity and I think we are bombarded with messages and
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  content all day long and I'm going to say this and it's the reason I had reached out to you
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  months ago or whatever and it literally was a matter of there's no shortage of social media people
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  out there trying to give advice the problem is is for the majority of them I don't believe they're
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  trying to help me I believe they're trying to use that message to build their audience so that
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  they have greater influence and and it's people realize that like that authenticity is evident
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  yeah and if I think you're putting out stuff so that I follow you or you're putting out content
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  so that that I'll give you your dopamine hit with your like in the comments like all of that
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  stuff may be real it may be true but it's not authentic and it's not for my benefit and the
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  content that you create I'm going to say is unapologetically authentic and and I mean that's
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  genuinely yeah and I don't say that's from a place of trying to flatter you because if I
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  thought I was just trying to flatter you I wouldn't have reached out to begin with if I didn't
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  think you were authentic about it I mean you and I probably know most of the same people in the
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  influencer space when it comes to health and wellness yeah and you know I can probably count on one
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  hand how many of them I think are just 100% authentic people and not just trying to work to build
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  their brand and I think there's a lot of people out there I'll tell you what like I was just texting
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  a minute ago with Ben Azadi I'm sure you know Ben Azadi and you know one of the things I love
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  about Ben is he's authentic yeah like he he tells the story about why and how he got into what he
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  does and I mean you can practically hear him choke up crying on his audio book talking about his
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  dad like and I'm like that's just not stuff you you create right and yet I know other people
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  who 100% who I'd say 100% are nothing but building audiences right and I think that's
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  that's obvious one of the things that and I want to get into some of the stuff that you do as
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  as a functional medical practitioner and I will say this like I work in the marketing space mostly
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  in the longevity space but also have a PhD in functional medicine so none of that's lost on me
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  yeah um in fact I do it just for personal enrichment and interest so you know you practice and
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  actually talk to people I just get a lineup of friends and family who ask me questions all day long
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  yeah yeah yeah well I've got actually a a a fake sister of mine actually as breast cancer right
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  now and we just got into this conversation because you know she calls she's like what do you think
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  and I'm like I can give you everything I believe and I can give you all of this and I'm like but I
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  also want to make sure that what I'm giving you is very digestible for you like let's start with
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  the basics like ketogenic diet let's let's get into some fasting protocols and I'm like you know
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  if anything like I want you to do a 72 hour fast and I'm like yeah but let me tell you I'm like
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  here's what I want tell me when you start I will do it with you right that's awesome this is going
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  to be a solidarity fast if you're gonna do 72 hours on a on a fast I'm gonna do it with you because
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  that way you're not feeling like you're having to go through something like nope I'm in it with you
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  like let's do it that's cool um and it but it's that kind of stuff right it's it's giving people good
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  health advice and then I introduced her to nation winters I'm like I want I want you to talk to
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  nation like this would be a good introduction for you I told her if you lean in I center a copy
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  of metabolic freedom with menisadium like go do this like here's a list of people I want you to
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  start following like learn that this is not me telling you this right because I don't want it
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  to be me telling you I want you to learn from multiple different sources and hear opposing
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  opinions on some of this stuff too right yeah but one of the things that stands out about you
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  and I've often made this observation about this longevity space um and I recently I'm gonna
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  sell out on something here I probably shouldn't know that's right I'll try to get him on the
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  podcast too and then it's going to be evident um you know who Tim at the alberino is I don't think I
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  do okay so he he held a conference I call it conspiracy camp okay but it's he's an incredible
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  Christian man but he really goes into a lot of deep history of ancient origins and stuff like
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  that so um and I attended the conference I'm like I really love his stuff yeah super super biblical
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  based it is um but really cool stuff but anyways when I went there a lot of the conversation there
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  was about this topic of AI it was about you know what does that mean and in biblical senses and
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  what how does that play into end times and all this kind of stuff and I'm like all right like I
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  filter a lot of the stuff and I know what I do and believe and um but then he starts talking about
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  biohacking and I was like okay where's this going to go because my belief has been that in the biohacking
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  longevity community I believe that the I'm I want to make sure that I make a difference between
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  spirituality and evangelical religious belief yeah absolutely because I think too many yoga
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  instructors are super spiritual but that's not what I'm talking about yeah very different but I
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  believe this idea of spirituality has either gotten way too woo and people shut it down because
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  it's too weird or the biohacking community has gone so scientific that they have ruled out anything
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  about spirituality and religion that could possibly have any anything um and the conversation I was
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  really looking forward to having with you today is that by what's impressed me with you and
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  and what you do and the way you speak authentically has been your unapologetically a Christian
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  and I share that faith um but you do so in such a functional way like you're approaching functional
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  medicine and unapologetically Christian at the same time and when I listened to the the folks
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  conspiracy camp talk about AI and all the stuff like it was it was as if biohackers themselves were
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  absolute jokes because how dare you believe you're going to live forever and so on and it was very
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  very pejorative and and they they literally started quoting from a bunch of you know these
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  influencers in fact this one just said this this this and I'm like should I text that person and
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  let him know what you're saying about him right now yeah okay you're dogging my friends like this
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  is not okay yeah you know at the same time like I go to the biohack in conferences and they're
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  making a joke out of Christianity a lot of times because you know everything is found in the world
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  of science um you you balance that beautifully hmm and and and and I'm curious if you find yourself
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  I recently saw you doing a podcast and and I want to say it was with was it with Breka that you
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  did that possibly yeah but it was podcasting it was it was funny to me because you were having a
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  conversation with a person who I don't normally associate with being a Christian or or
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  probably a person yeah and I think it was Breka actually and and you were just flat out you
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  and I'm like it's so authentic but can you speak to what that balance feels like because I think
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  there is a tug of war between those those groups yeah and I think you and I will say me as well
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  like I'm perfectly comfortable standing in the middle of those conversations like you're not like
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  I've got a you know degrees in in functional medicine and also degrees in clinical psychology
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  but I also have a master's degree in theology yeah I'm cool I don't have to stand in the middle of
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  those worlds right yeah that's awesome um what do you what do you see because I think that's the
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  authenticity that comes across yeah I don't know I mean I think it's uh it's it's it's kind of an
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  easy answer in a way um I think my first you know I I use this word intentionally but my first fear
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  is is um you know the opinion of my father in heaven like that that to me is yeah
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  such as such a significant deal when you really believe uh who got is and who he is in our life
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  and what he created us for um that that like is such a strong conviction that I that overpowers
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  usually most of the time my opinion of what other people think of me um and so I the only reason
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  I think the reason I'm not I think the reason I'm I try to be balanced with that that tension
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  between those two worlds like you described is because I want to be effective in my um my work
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  and in my mission um in my calling that God's put on my life and so I want to I want to approach it
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  with love and and grace and all that um with each person and trying to reach people that um have
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  never heard the gospel before but also be firm for those who um need to know like that it's a
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  serious matter and that um that I believe it seriously like that I take it I take it very seriously
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  and so I want people again that gets back to authenticity like if people believe that I am being
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  authentic with my statements and with what I'm saying then I think it helps uh for them to then
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  come to their own conclusion about maybe what I'm saying so like they might be taking more seriously
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  like well he's he's been he's been pretty uh convicted about these areas of health and these
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  this seems to be true and this seems to be well-founded in research and he has a strong conviction
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  about it he he tries to live with himself with himself and with his family and he also talks about
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  his faith in a very similar way too and so I think that helps to kind of bring people into the fold
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  that don't know about the gospel and then also for people who are Christians who know about the
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  gospel but don't live in this like biohacking or uh any kind of like world besides conventional
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  medical system health um bring them into this other area of health that's like hey maybe
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  maybe there's something here that I can learn too and actually grow in and improve my life through
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  my health and so that's kind of how I I guess I think about it but um I don't know I think the
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  Holy Spirit is is very um you know he gives us wisdom abundantly and if we ask for it and the ability
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  to discern um and I think the times that we slip up it's because we're not we're not leaning into
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  that like we're leaning into our own uh flesh or our own uh human constructs and and sometimes like
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  the only answer is just the Holy Spirit is wise and he gives us wisdom when we ask for it so like
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  there's probably a lot of that going on I think that's true a couple directions I want to go
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  with the conversations but I want to layer them in here from the dovetail off of what you just
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  said there's there's something you've mentioned and they're about people who are from the biohacking
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  community and I'll use the word longevity because the word biohacking annoys me yeah
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  I did too it's just well longevity tell longevity community right people who are in that space
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  I think there is a necessity for them to hear the gospel message in an authentic way
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  and I believe you're right that when when they hear it from a person with conviction who's living
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  that life um it does legitimize it and I think that that's what it that's what it does when
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  they're hearing it from a person who's clearly educated from a person who's clearly in their
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  space and speaking their language right it legitimizes the fact that these things are not opposites
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  in fact they can harmonize but I'm curious I'm gonna set you up for failure here um I'm curious
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  about we can easily talk about the need for that science community to have faith except one of my
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  biggest convictions as a believer has been that I think the church is embarrassing when it comes to
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  wellness and and health yeah and I personally believe that the church ought to be the healthiest
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  group of people on the planet and they ought to be the wealthiest people on the planet and they
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  ought to be the people who are thriving and marriages are thriving in all the cells and yet
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  you know I grew up in a in a Baptist church and you know the spiritual love language was potluck
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  and and I mean that that's how you showed affection was a casual and right you know and it's
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  an obese group of people who are in terrible health and living on 15 different medications that
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  the doctor gave and and half of them fighting the poverty if I can't get off the couch so I can't
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  get a better job and you know I'm gonna go serve at church more hours rather than go to college
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  um or or you know that type of stuff and I mean I used to watch it in in a church I was a worship
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  leader at my mega church up in Michigan when I went before I moved down to Florida and I used to
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  watch it all the time and it was like people who would be in this volunteerism burnout and you know
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  taking a bow and in the meanwhile I'm like your financial life is a wreck yeah like you can't even
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  pay your bills but you're volunteering all these hours and it's like that's not God honoring
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  right um but I feel that way about people in that community who aren't paying attention to their
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  health either and it's a very unhealthy group of people by and large yeah not as not as much
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  so down here in South Florida because we're all vain and shallow people by yeah we got to be outside
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  in the sun all the time you know absolutely like no one wants to look bad in the swimsuit but
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  the uh but how do you balance that because I think it's easy for us to talk about the the philanthropy
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  of sharing the gospel with people in the science community but sharing the science with the gospel
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  community um I think isn't received well all the time right like telekrysta and that's not
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  God honoring and you probably just you know caused all kinds of waves yeah no yeah I think you know
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  it's interesting I I've been trying to I've had this again conviction that I I want to kind of do
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  this like church speaking circuit you know where I to any like the churches that will have me to go
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  and into and I'm not a public speaker I've never been a I mean I I may be able to do it well I don't
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  know I just never done it before but um I want to lean into that a little bit because I feel like
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  the church is in such desperate need of yeah of just somebody pushing the envelope a little bit
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  and and just posing uh some ideas that are a little bit counter Christian culture you know like
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  when it comes to health and wellness and uh you know I I was asking some local churches that I
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  have been a part of and I think they know me and they're I don't think they're fully know what I do
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  but they're both kind of well you know like we have to maintain some level of democracy within
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  the church and we don't want to ascribe to a particular you know idea when it comes to health and
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  I was just like you know shaking my head just like what do you what do you mean like this there's
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  like a way to be healthy right like that that's not a exactly like that's not a democratic or you know
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  it just kind of baffled me a little bit and I think there a lot of pastors are so
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  number one I think they themselves are are walking in a way that um is maybe
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  convicting to like they don't want to talk about things that they are maybe doing right and so
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  if if you are overweight or you don't fully understand the stuff where you are in a bunch of pills
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  or whatever uh it may feel like hypocritical for you to to talk about it as as a leader of your
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  congregation I don't know like that's just one thing that kind of comes my mind um but I don't
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  think that's I don't think that's a good reason for us to do anything if anything that's a reason
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  we need to talk about it is we need to help the body the Christian the Christ body to be healthier
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  and we need to kind of be open to discussing things that we don't know and and grow in our understanding
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  and uh you know I think the reason Christian's default to at least for my observation uh
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  is I think we rely too much on the ecclesiastics mindset of like it's all meaningless you know
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  it's all vain under the sun and I think it's unfortunate because that's a misunderstanding
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  misrepresentation of like what life is you know like it's not that life is meaningless it's just
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  that there are meaningless things that we can do um but the example I like to give and I gave it
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  an umbreka um was you know like if you woke up early in the morning and you're you know I
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  I picture it in Canaan Beach because we're in Canaan Beach and I was kind of thinking about those but
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  um you know you're you're building a sandcastle you wake up really early in the morning and you're
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  you're putting all this effort into building a sandcastle and you're sculpting it you're you're
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  doing it with your child or you're you're having a lot of fun but there's also some hard time so
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  like scoop the sand and build it out but then at the end of the day the tide comes in and it's
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  going to wash it all away you know like that's that's like kind of what our life is in a way like
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  we're putting all this effort into something and building something but at the end of it like it's
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  all going to be wiped out and that's okay because it's not just about making that thing last forever
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  it's about being intentional and and and building something and working hard and and and and
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  honoring what God has given us and uh I think life is kind of that way like uh you know the the actual
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  I think it's the Hebrew meaning of uh that word meaningless at least in the at least for my
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  understanding the context of it is is hevel and that means it's more like a vapor it's like more
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  of something that can't be grasped it's like more like a fog like you you see it and you can't
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  really grasp it so like life is kind of that way like you see this something going in front of you
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  but you can't really put your hands around it but it doesn't mean that it's not important right
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  like obviously life is important and I think that's what Christians fail to do is you know we don't
• 24:23
  want to make an idol of their health like we don't want to be vain and like make it all about health
• 24:26
  but we also don't want to think it's it's meaningless and do nothing with it like there is this
• 24:30
  tension in between I think we have to kind of be mindful of I had somebody say something to me before
• 24:35
  about you're never satisfied you know you always want more you always want better you always
• 24:38
  want whatever and it's like I want my health optimized I want my business to be better optimized
• 24:43
  I want you know everything in my life that can be better I want it to be better and and it was
• 24:48
  just like well isn't there you know go to Paul's teaching about you know I learned to be content
• 24:52
  in all things like can can't you be content and I'm like yes like I'm not discontent just because
• 24:58
  I want to optimize things in my life and I said in fact if given the resources for instance my mind
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  like I'm a smart guy I get that and I'm not apologetic about that right it's dishonoring not
• 25:11
  to use that gift to the gift giver right like if I've been given that gift and and the gift goes
• 25:19
  to if I've been given health then it is it is dishonoring to the giver of my health
• 25:25
  right to not care for it right well especially especially when you know like we don't have to
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  suffer nearly as much as we do like I think I think what I think what I'm realizing is I think
• 25:36
  people only do enough just to keep their cup slightly full enough to just do the bare minimum right
• 25:44
  but like what about if you have a cup that's full or overflowing well you you then give out of
• 25:50
  that cup to other people like that's that's the idea right and so I was parents if we're just
• 25:55
  existing and we're not able to pour that out back on our children like our children are gonna
• 25:59
  have a rough upbringing right like they're not gonna do nearly as well as they could but if we
• 26:03
  like start filling up our cup and then we we have the ability to kind of keep replenishing it
• 26:07
  through our through good strategies good habits good all these things to help good health and all
• 26:12
  this stuff like then you could have poured out on other people like you got you got to keep keep
• 26:19
  keep passing the blessing to other people I think that's what we kind of failed to think about like
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  we only think about our current existence and our current like level of just the bare minimum but
• 26:26
  like what about beyond that like there's so much more you can do with this once you you meet your own
• 26:31
  needs you know I'm gonna have to send you a copy of my most recent book launch called Radical Generosity
• 26:37
  and literally walk through you know the the physiological benefits of being generous and how being
• 26:45
  generous changes us and the more we're able to you know the more we give the more we give right
• 26:53
  like it it's a self perpetuating cycle that we that we create and I believe that and you know
• 26:59
  like going through the physiology of everything from oxytocin release and so on so forth like
• 27:04
  it literally is an antidepressant it is you know all of those things I mean so I mean there is
• 27:09
  this like for sure I can live on drugs or I can find ways to actually release serotonin and
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  oxytocin and you know without having to do that you know artificially and even the artificial
• 27:19
  stuff starts to teach my body that it doesn't need to do it on its own and then I'd be
• 27:22
  kind of dependent because now I have no way of doing it but yeah I want I want to go I love
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  that by the way and the idea that you know I believed we would share that belief that the church
• 27:31
  ought to be a healthier group of people because the idea that we do that you know that we take
• 27:36
  care of and we're good stewards of our health the same way we're called to be good stewards of our
• 27:41
  finances and I believe even when I think of like the parable of the talents right like right I think
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  that's a hundred percent to anything we've been given that's not a financial lesson that is
• 27:53
  that is an every thing lesson you know to the person who's been given much much as expected and
• 27:58
  if I've been given health then I ought to be expected to care for that the same way I do anything
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  else and to your point when I'm in better health and that can be mental spiritual psychological
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  physiological biological whatever definition of health we want to use I'm in a position to be
• 28:13
  able to contribute to society in a much more impactful way right and I stole a phrase from Michael
• 28:21
  Fishman that I use all the time because it's just it's so important to me and it's this idea that
• 28:25
  impact is the currency of success and if I've reduced myself into into a list of symptoms my
• 28:33
  impact has been minimized you know I'll quote Bobby Kennedy and say you know we're looking at
• 28:39
  you know the man with an illness has one goal versus the healthy man has many so true that
• 28:45
  that when when I've diminished myself to that diagnosis you know all of a sudden my focus
• 28:50
  is not on everybody else my focus is on me yeah so true and I think that's become about me
• 28:58
  that's that and I think that's the the enemy of the deceiver right like it's to get us in that
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  state to where we're only looking inward and we're not looking up or out you know we're just
• 29:09
  constantly looking in our own and it victimizes us it makes us ineffectual and you know granted
• 29:16
  you like you know you could you could God can use you in whatever state you're in you know like
• 29:21
  he's done that with millions and millions of people and why do we need to make him work that hard
• 29:25
  like if you don't have to like don't do that on purpose like don't put yourself in that position
• 29:30
  on purpose but yeah I just yeah I think there's such you know I did a video where I just asked
• 29:36
  AI like how would you destroy a family or how would you destroy you know and people have done
• 29:40
  this before too but like how would you just go about destroying a family a healthy family and
• 29:46
  it's like you know you do all these things that we're talking about like you you victimize them
• 29:49
  you get them distracted you get them on hooked on dopamine you get them isolated you know you
• 29:54
  you don't eat real food you don't have any real time with nature like you're not spending time
• 29:58
  in community and that's that's that's why I think this is where I get really passionate or you
• 30:06
  know like a like a just anger or whatever you want to call it but when you start seeing the
• 30:12
  tools that I think the enemy has used and and government and big pharma and always different
• 30:17
  industries in granted it's not that I think conventional doctors are trying to intentionally
• 30:23
  do things to people I think they're within a system that they've been trained in that they believe
• 30:27
  is the only and right way to do things but the people that are at at the top who are funneling
• 30:34
  this information down or you know funneling the the proceeds to encourage people to to do things
• 30:40
  poorly that's where I start to say like this is this is not by accident like what's happening to
• 30:46
  people like this like the fact that we're experiencing such high rates of infertility is that that's how
• 30:53
  that's how the devil wins like that's how evil wins is like not allowing for procreation not
• 30:58
  allowing for more of God's children to be born or the ones that are being born are dying early
• 31:03
  or the ones that are you know in their 30s 40s and 50s and 60s are living no life at all and
• 31:07
  having no impact right like that that to me is where I just get super motivated to like keep
• 31:14
  talking about this because that's that's what's at stake you know like that like life is really at
• 31:18
  stake whether you're living or not like you're living life abundantly as that stake and I just won't
• 31:24
  stand for that like I don't but that's why I say what you want but to me like that's my why with
• 31:30
  all this stuff it's like when we work with women in our program my program like it's it's I work
• 31:36
  with women primarily because if I can help the the mom be healthy the whole family and benefits from
• 31:42
  it like the whole the husband the father the children they they all benefit from mom who's like
• 31:48
  the pivot point the linchpin the linchpin of the success the how the health of the family now I'm a
• 31:53
  huge proponent of of a biblical model for the household where you know the responsibility lies in
• 32:00
  the shoulders of the father but also in very understanding of the practicality and the logistics
• 32:06
  of how a successful family is run via the mom and so that's right you know I love working with
• 32:12
  women specifically because like when they succeed the whole family starts to succeed and that's
• 32:17
  why I think women are said you know under such attack individually versus children I want to
• 32:23
  ask you because I'm curious what you'll answer to this and that is one of the one of the things
• 32:27
  that I've been spending a lot of time on and we we talked about science versus faith or spirituality
• 32:32
  and how there's a convergence of those two things and particularly and I'll say in a conversation
• 32:38
  I was saying I'm sure you know who Philip von Holtzendor failing is right Leila I don't know him but
• 32:43
  yeah yeah very cool guy loved to introduce you to him but he Philip and I had this whole conversation
• 32:49
  about quantum energy and frequency and bio fields and so on so forth and and at one point in my
• 32:56
  journey I would have laughed most of that stuff off as being a single woo yeah and and yet the more
• 33:03
  we have this conversation I remember having a conversation with him and he he gets into this whole
• 33:08
  thing about you know that which we emit is that which we attract right this idea that the the
• 33:13
  energy the goodness the whatever we want to say that we put off actually creates very measurable
• 33:18
  frequency right and frequency attracts frequency much like magnets um and and as we attract that
• 33:26
  frequency and and he's talking and I went well I just want to ask you this question because it very
• 33:30
  much to me sounds like the golden rule is more of a science lesson than a spiritual truth that you
• 33:35
  know do and others as you would have them do under you means that if I want kindness I need to
• 33:39
  project kindness and if I want chaos I need to project chaos right and all of the things that I
• 33:44
  from a frequency standpoint I am pushing into the world are exactly the things that I find
• 33:50
  no different than the person and I I use this you know we always say I found my keys oh they're
• 33:54
  always in the last place you look and it's like well they're in the last place you look because you
• 33:58
  quit looking right like once you found what you were looking for you stopped looking well people who
• 34:03
  seek out negativity find negativity well because they quit looking for the positivity because they found
• 34:09
  what they were looking for right like you self-fulfilled that prophecy in such a way but that
• 34:15
  that brings me I mean obviously from a from a woo stand point when we talk about energy and frequency
• 34:20
  and quantum science and all this other kind of stuff when you know not time to unpack all that today
• 34:24
  but it brings me to it to a to a large point and I'm moving in a direction here and that is
• 34:32
  ancient wisdom is now being discovered by science and it's making me laugh to be honest with you
• 34:38
  because so so many of the things that I'm seeing and in this frequency conversation you know I
• 34:44
  was having with somebody else who actually imprints energy in fabric if you're with intelligent
• 34:51
  threads super cool but they they're able to put frequency into fabric so that I actually when
• 34:58
  you put the shirt on your muscles relax because it's putting that type of frequency into you and I'm
• 35:02
  like well this is so woo and so weird and I love it now but you know it was this idea but I
• 35:08
  was reading an article recently about how different types of fabric even when they're woven together
• 35:14
  each of them already have a frequency that they admit and those two frequencies together collide
• 35:20
  and then they create chaos even in your physiology and I was like well that very much sounds like
• 35:25
  mosaic law that doesn't sound weird right right had another conversation with someone who's
• 35:32
  talking about you know healthy practices for for agriculture and the idea that you know trauma
• 35:39
  is stored at a cellular level well if you end up killing an animal that you're about to eat and
• 35:44
  the animal is killed in a traumatic fashion that cortisol rise the everything that happens in the
• 35:49
  animal prior to its death is stored in the cells of the meat that we then eat like right we're
• 35:55
  eating trauma infused meat and I'm like well that sounds very kosher that sounds very halal
• 36:02
  that I mean all of this we're we're finding out in a kind of a funny ingenious sort of way
• 36:10
  that this ancient wisdom like the idea of killing animals in a in a humane way prior to eating them
• 36:18
  was what they were commanded to do back then but now I look at it and I'm like well yeah but we've
• 36:22
  scientifically been able to connect that to cellular trauma that they would have had no words for
• 36:27
  right right just but they were instructed to do it nonetheless yeah absolutely but but they followed
• 36:32
  it they knew what they were doing and to this day you know orthodox Jews will follow that that exact
• 36:38
  same pattern because it's commanded even though we didn't know why it was commanded right like all
• 36:42
  of a sudden it's making sense because we're unpacking these things do you find yourself I'm going to
• 36:49
  say crashing into those types of things on the regular that that were science and and maybe ancient
• 36:56
  wisdom are crossing paths and I'm curious what examples you have of when you're like yeah I mean
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  I'm finding this and then all of a sudden it's reminiscent of I know this because of you know
• 37:08
  religious teaching or whatever and then all of a sudden you find those things overlapping and you're
• 37:12
  like kind of I mean to me I find myself snickering to be honest with you I find myself
• 37:16
  kind of laughing like oh look I've got it right who imagined that yeah big surprise yeah no I mean
• 37:20
  I did a I did a post you know it's it's not that huge of a secret at all but you know with
• 37:26
  in Ezekiel with the perfect protein with you know the grains and the millet and you know the
• 37:32
  lentil bread recipe that was provided that was acting as a complete protein for you know people
• 37:38
  that time it was sustaining them and you know like we didn't know what a complete protein was until
• 37:43
  more recently but that was you know thousands of years ago that that was constructed to them and so
• 37:49
  it's just one of those it's another example of that whole thing and Leviticus is kind of
• 37:53
  chock full of those similar kind of ideas and it was you know I think it's always interesting if like
• 38:00
  you know God was protecting His people and trying to maintain cleanliness and the instructions
• 38:07
  that He was providing were are now well-founded in research right like with pork and certain types
• 38:12
  of you know bottom dwelling sea creatures and and all that kind of stuff where it's like they're
• 38:16
  filtering out these these foods and these bacteria and parasites that maybe you don't want to be
• 38:22
  consuming them if you don't want to have problems as as a as a tribe you know and I think the same
• 38:27
  is true for today and I think the the argument that I can hear in my head as for maybe someone who's
• 38:32
  listening to this or people that I can think of that I talk to it's just like okay yeah that's
• 38:38
  cool and great but like what about here now you know like what about like today and like how can
• 38:42
  like I can't be I have kids like I have to take to soccer practice and have all these things going
• 38:45
  on like I got to be you know I got a lot going on and the best I can do is running through Chick-fil-A
• 38:50
  and all this stuff and and I think there's an argument there for sure but I think the whole point
• 38:54
  of what we're trying to say is just like there's an order that God has provided and I think we've
• 38:59
  gotten so far away from his order and his plan and this is part of the fall back in you know the
• 39:06
  garden of Eden but I think the danger that we're facing now the slippery slope is that when you do
• 39:13
  things that are considered to be restrictive like eating you know eating a whole food diet or
• 39:19
  eating an anti-inflammatory diet people like well that's gonna that's gonna like it's too restrictive
• 39:24
  it's gonna cause an eating disorder and you know it's just like it's it's whatever and I'm like
• 39:29
  like unfortunately our goalposts are are are are lying in the sand like we're so far away from it
• 39:35
  that we can't even like get a proper understanding of what practical good health even looks like and it
• 39:41
  becomes like this biohacking thing and the reality is it's just like this is what people have been
• 39:46
  doing for for centuries like eating this way living this way connecting with the earth you know
• 39:52
  like getting natural sunlight you know having exposure to cold having exposure to heat with
• 39:56
  heat shock proteins like eating a whole food diet you know not living off of you know preserved
• 40:01
  foods because you didn't have a refrigerator or you didn't have a can like you you had to eat
• 40:05
  these things pretty fresh and you're eating them in the seasons based on you know what would grow
• 40:10
  and what wouldn't grow and you know like all these things like that and like killing animals
• 40:14
  humanely and using them well because if you didn't it would spoil and you know you had to like
• 40:19
  maintain a herd and all this sort of stuff like these are these are things that had been around for
• 40:22
  so so long up until now up until the last 56 years and now we're like whoa whoa like that's
• 40:28
  like what's wrong with those number one and whoa like that's too restrictive and like that's too
• 40:32
  extreme and I'm like what we're doing now is so extreme like like like what we're doing now is like
• 40:37
  we've never done this before and like we're we're so surprised by all our circadian rhythm
• 40:42
  disruptions and heart attacks and cardiovascular disease and infertility and it's like we've gotten
• 40:47
  so far away from the biblical structure the biblical model that god laid out thousands of years ago
• 40:52
  and I don't know I just think I always try to make it so as as simple and easy for my clients as
• 40:58
  possible just to show them that kind of perspective because I think once you start seeing it from
• 41:02
  that perspective of picturing yourself living 150 years ago like what would you have to do
• 41:08
  it kind of makes it feel more practical in a way and also like we have a lot of resources around us
• 41:14
  that we can draw from it may take more effort sure like it's not going to be found at Walmart maybe
• 41:19
  or it's maybe you have to go a little bit greater lengths to get quality food but it's still out there
• 41:24
  and you know it does cost more money sometimes to buy that kind of stuff but it's also a very
• 41:29
  expensive thing to go out and buy convenience foods all the time and go out to restaurants all the time
• 41:33
  and I don't know I just think like we've gotten so busy and we've as a result we've relied so
• 41:38
  much on convenience foods and that's that's like the biggest issue I see all the time it's just
• 41:44
  we got to get away from that kind of stuff I was reading something recently and it actually was
• 41:49
  in a conversation that I was having with Ben Azadi again and the and it was kind of funny because
• 41:55
  the whole conversation wrapped around this idea of fasting and you know at 48 hours into a fast
• 42:02
  people report just heightened levels of mental acuity and now of course we understand that is
• 42:07
  because the digestive system is able to actually relax and all that energy is able to be you know
• 42:12
  harnessed by other systems in the body including you know detox and so on so forth and I was like well
• 42:18
  it's really interesting that you say that because biblically we're told to fast and pray you know
• 42:22
  especially when we're seeking answers and I'm like well sure and I believe that and I believe
• 42:27
  that there is a spiritual element to it I'm like but maybe part of that is a well if you fast your
• 42:32
  brain is going to function better and you'll be able to figure out the answer like there's just
• 42:38
  some real science in there that we're neglecting the real science and the message and it's like
• 42:43
  it's not necessarily about a spiritual thing although it's that as well but there's clearly an
• 42:50
  application there otherwise I want to touch on one other topic when we've got some time here
• 42:55
  Austin and that is I'll do a shameless plug here and say that I've got a book that I've been
• 42:59
  working on submitting the book proposal over to Hay House had meetings with them and it's
• 43:05
  it's something that I absolutely love and I believe that it's going to you know would resonate
• 43:09
  with you as well as the book entitled co-creators and the entire message behind co-creators is that
• 43:17
  you know in the beginning was the word and the entire universe was spoken into existence
• 43:23
  and that the words that are spoken you know in the beginning of God himself was the creation
• 43:28
  and we have the power to speak words and the power of the tongue
• 43:36
  defines our reality yeah and it's it's not necessarily even the belief system that I believe
• 43:42
  that there's literal power in the words that we're speaking and and I believe this links very
• 43:46
  closely to people who labeled themselves with diagnoses yeah you know the I am diabetic mindset
• 43:53
  as opposed to you know I have high glucose levels or whatever like right how do we how do we
• 44:00
  make that determination where you know we're going to change that narrative but I genuinely
• 44:05
  believe that and again I hate to use the word manifesting because I think that's got loaded
• 44:09
  meaning for too many people but but we really do manifest our own realities with with the things
• 44:14
  that we say I mean I found myself recently you know colloquialism at this point you know people
• 44:21
  like oh my gosh I'm dead like or I'm dying to see you and these types of phrases have worked
• 44:25
  them with their ways into common language like I find myself not even wanting to use that type of
• 44:30
  language because I'm like I'm not telling myself I'm dead yeah like where our words are spoken
• 44:35
  with frequencies and these frequencies are actually telling ourselves how to behave you know if
• 44:41
  if I'm telling myself that I am diabetic they start beginning and you know they move in that way
• 44:46
  if I don't tell myself that they're my cells rather that you know we're dying you know that
• 44:52
  actually causes the literal frequency that those words emit from my own mouth cause my cells to
• 45:01
  inflame and you can watch it like you like for instance I'm sure you're even familiar with the work
• 45:05
  of dr. Emoto with speaking negativity or speaking positively into water and then freezing the water
• 45:11
  and seeing the patterns that are in the water you're familiar with his word yeah or or the idea you
• 45:17
  like do what's her name Ellen Langer and the work that Ellen Langer did about taking the the old
• 45:24
  men and put them in a hotel type environment but the entire hotel was actually it was retrofit like
• 45:33
  it would have looked when they were in their 20s the newspapers were all dated in the in the years
• 45:38
  that they were kids the TV programs were there there were zero mirrors allowed to be in the
• 45:46
  entire place so that they couldn't see themselves old and within literally seven days of them being
• 45:53
  in that you know environment their blood markers had changed wow and it was literally just
• 46:01
  because they were just brought back to when they were in their 20s wow so they interacted
• 46:06
  differently I mean guys that were on walkers and you know were walkers on the way in we're up
• 46:10
  walking around they did nothing medical that's awesome it's just the psychological study
• 46:16
  the power of their belief systems yeah and I believe wholeheartedly that we create these
• 46:23
  environments for ourselves with our health with our wealth with our relationships keep speaking
• 46:28
  doom over something and it's going to be terrible keep speaking you know curse over your
• 46:33
  children and your family I guarantee you it's going to be a train wreck like you're creating that
• 46:38
  reality and I mean one I'd love your input on something along those lines because I'd just love
• 46:44
  to hear your thoughts on that but I want you to kind of weave that into what you see in your practice
• 46:49
  because people who speak life to themselves live yeah and speak like no different than you
• 46:57
  sorry but you hear like doctors give the you know prognosis of life right and why are they so
• 47:02
  accurate right but you've got three months earlier and you see people die exactly 90 days later
• 47:08
  and you're like that's weird and yeah because they've been telling themselves that I'm on a clock
• 47:13
  right and the body behaves the body follows yeah yeah it becomes mine is proverbs 18 you know it's
• 47:20
  the tongue has the power of life and death and those who love it will eat its fruit right and so
• 47:26
  it's it's I think that's again biblical right like this is this is not I always tell people you know
• 47:32
  we use people try to like find like try to use science to find God or like see if he's real or
• 47:40
  if he exists and I always say like we just we use science to try to explain how God operates like
• 47:46
  that's that's how I use science because like I believe that God is a constant right and so
• 47:51
  he's sovereign omnipresent omnip powerful and all that omnipotent and you know so we're tapping
• 47:58
  into things that are already in existence and again the power of the mind the power of the tongue
• 48:04
  is just what's holding us back so often from from reaching that and so part of what I do with my
• 48:09
  clients is you know I always tell them like look you're you're a healthy person you're just getting
• 48:15
  healthier okay like I always try to get them to believe that because it's true like they're still
• 48:20
  breathing they're still they're still walking around yeah like they're they're here so you are
• 48:26
  first of all like you were I always tell them this I tell them this too like you're not broken okay like
• 48:30
  you're you're you may have things that are not operating as well as they need to or as well as
• 48:35
  like could but you're not broken like God God didn't make a mistake with you like you're there are
• 48:42
  genetic genetic components always come to play but more times than not that's that's the minority of
• 48:48
  people's issues like the majority is lifestyle like the things you do or don't do that efficiencies
• 48:54
  you have and you know so I'll tell them like look like you you blame things on your age because
• 49:00
  everyone's always saying like well I'm just getting older like this much and that kind of gets back
• 49:03
  to your hotel example like they they changed their thought about their age like they thought they were
• 49:07
  in their 20s and so they start functioning like they're younger but if you think like well I'm just
• 49:11
  getting older I guess this is what's supposed to happen you're going to be expecting bad things
• 49:16
  to happen to your body but if you understand like what I tell them is like you've been you've been
• 49:21
  in a state of deficiency for a longer period of time than you were when you're in your 20s
• 49:27
  and so now that you're 30 or 40 or 50 or 60 or 70 like you've been having the ongoing repercussions
• 49:33
  of those deficiencies or those systems that aren't operating at their full capacity but hey here's
• 49:38
  the good news if we start to restore those things and get you back in sync and get those deficiencies
• 49:43
  met those detox pathways functioning good circadian rhythm implemented like you will start to see changes
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  it's it's it's not we still people us too this isn't to be offensive but it's you're not that
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  special which is really good news like you are a human body that got us created to function a
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  certain way and it has certain foundational requirements that need to be met if you're not
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  meeting those it's like that's that's part of the problem once you start meeting those you start
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  seeing that you're not that special and these things start to resolve and that's really good news
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  like I was just talking to me today she had this terrible experience 10 years ago and didn't do
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  things right she detox improperly didn't use the right binders and all this stuff and created a bunch
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  of symptoms herk's responses and now she has this idea that she's just like this special case
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  that can't be fixed and nobody can help her and I was just like look like that's this is that was
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  the problem that you like this is the error that was made like you didn't do this correctly
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  unfortunately and nobody was there to walk you through it but once you realize that you're not
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  that special and your body was created very fearfully wonderfully made which is special
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  then you can start to appreciate the fact that you have the ability to heal and you don't have to
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  feel this way for your whole life and you know healing is not the same thing at least in my opinion
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  as being healthy like people have this idea of doing in general healthy things compared to
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  society which are societal standard for health is very low so they're saying like why
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  eat pretty healthy compared to people around me you know I don't drink very often blah blah
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  and I'm always like that's that's great like you're a healthy person like that's great but like if
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  you want to heal from something and you want to continue to be healthy and go get beyond where
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  you currently are like it does require some specific action and some specific steps to take and
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  and when people kind of start believing that they start viewing themselves is like oh yeah like I'm
• 51:33
  I'm healthy like I just trying to get healthier I think there's a shift in their mindset that takes
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  place and again I think you know I've always wondered like because my program is not that fancy like
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  you know we've had a really high success with it but it's not like we're doing crazy things like
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  it's all like I do it all from a computer right like I'm telling them what like I'm not injecting
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  them with anything I'm not giving them any special procedures or medicines or anything like
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  you know we have detox protocols we do have them do and meal plans they follow and all that stuff but
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  but it's just all things that have already been built into their cells that we're tapping into
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  and we're trying to harness that natural ability that God gave them and intelligence yeah it's like
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  yeah it's an eight and I think once they start to see it they're like oh that wasn't very hard
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  like that was actually pretty simple I've been dealing with this for 20 years and now it's gone
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  in four weeks like you got to be kidding me and I'm like yeah I know like that's that's unfortunate
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  but you know now go tell people about it like now that your cup is overflowing go share that
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  with people that need to hear it because they're also suffering and you can prevent their suffering
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  and it's like they it's like our you know our salvation testimony like at least not even close
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  the same level of significance but when you have a true conviction about something you want to tell
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  people about it like you want to prevent them from going through it and you want to help them to
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  be saved and I don't know like that's that's what the health stuff is about for me it's it's
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  tapping into what God has already built into us and giving thanks for all things good or bad
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  but not not letting our tongues dictate you know our experience when God is not you know he's a good
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  father like he he's not wanting us to suffer for no reason like he will use suffering for for his
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  glory and for our benefit but more times not itself inflicted and I think that's that's what's
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  hard to watch especially as the Christians sitting in a Christian church watching Christians
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  who are doing this and asking for a miracle when I'm like look God every every time you're taking a
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  breath it's a miracle like every time your skin cuts and heals it's a miracle every time your
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  cells are being replaced every three to five days like that's a miracle like you're just you're
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  just making it hard for that miracle to be realized but like the miracle is already there
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  I've got and this you you remind me of something that is I every time I go to like think that I'm
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  going to make a point you say it right before I get to this this whole idea of like I'm going
• 53:51
  in there and praying for the miracle and I think we all know that this the metaphor of the guy
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  standing on the roof and you know oh God send somebody to heal me and a boat goes by and he's like
• 54:00
  all right take care every nice day like and then all of these options are coming and he's still
• 54:04
  sitting there praying for the miracle right and yeah God's like look I I sent you a dozen different
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  ways that this could happen and you're just not paying attention right and I really do see that
• 54:15
  when you started the conversation you brought up the topic of wisdom and you know that that we
• 54:23
  need to be praying for wisdom that that's really what what is most important and I laugh because
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  people who've known me a while I don't like when people pray for me and I know that's going to
• 54:32
  sound really weird theologically but yeah you know someone's just like I'll pray for you know
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  what should I be praying for I'll be praying for you and it's like I get like kind of weird about
• 54:40
  I don't know what you're praying for me right like like I don't want somebody praying for me first
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  of all if I don't know what it is you're praying for because I don't want you praying for something
• 54:50
  that I'm praying against like I'm not cool with that because I don't know God in the trick box
• 54:54
  but you know who's prayer is the answer yours or mine um yeah you know like it's good
• 54:59
  not that I think God's up there like running American Idol or something but it's right not
• 55:02
  which means many folks in my favor yeah but at the same time like I look at it in this this direction
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  of I always tell people like if you're going to pray for me then pray for wisdom pray that God
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  sends me wisdom that's what I want because I believe that the solutions already exist right I don't
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  I don't believe that I need to be praying for miracles in most cases I need to be praying for
• 55:25
  the wisdom to understand how to use the tools that are already in front of me yeah that's so good
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  I love that like I the answers exist and praying for a miracle in many cases um in my opinion it
• 55:39
  kind of kind of shortcuts like God gave you everything like acknowledge the gifts that he's
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  already given before you ask for another one and if you if you've given me the gift of understanding
• 55:51
  my health then if I'm not implementing the things that I already understand how dare I ask you
• 55:58
  for something else well yeah I mean that's that's that's the you know I have kids you know like
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  that's what I think about my children it's like they'll ask me for something I'm like no I want
• 56:06
  I want to like I want you to be better for this I don't want to just give you something like I could
• 56:11
  I could buy my kids most things but it's like I want them to learn so much more than just
• 56:16
  having that short-term experience from that thing and I think that's again if we're eternal creatures
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  which I believe we are like that you know we're in this temporary body that we're we're being
• 56:28
  housed in our spirits being housed in but our spirit is going to live on forever right and so I
• 56:33
  don't think that our spirit gets wiped out in your race and we just start with this like you know
• 56:38
  new memories and have I think like all this is being built upon for a reason right and so
• 56:43
  this is going to carry over into eternal existence and I just think like again God and His sovereign
• 56:48
  power and knowledge and wisdom like I'm like I'm going to default to that God because I don't
• 56:52
  fully understand all this but I do know that this is not for for nothing like this is this matters
• 56:57
  here now and learning these lessons and growing in our faith and being sanctified like that's
• 57:03
  really what it is it's like sanctification right like we're not yet sanctified but we are being
• 57:08
  sanctified and with that in mind it just kind of gives me some some peace and just freedom just
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  like okay God like whatever come come with me like I'm gonna I'm gonna keep using these gifts
• 57:19
  you've given me I'm gonna keep relying on my foundational understanding of who you are and
• 57:24
  and ask for wisdom and and and pray for for you to show me things that bring you more glory and
• 57:31
  and increase my faith like I think that's always a good thing and having that daily bread experience
• 57:36
  to where we're constantly being reminded of who God is is is good and like I think God uses
• 57:40
  many different things and methods and people to remind us of how powerful and how cool he is
• 57:47
  but beyond that like yeah we've been given everything we need like we you know we don't need
• 57:50
  anything else and I that's such a such I love that I I don't know if I I've heard that but not like
• 57:55
  you explained it really well so thanks for sharing that that was good good I'm glad I was able to
• 57:59
  benefit your life too yeah I mean you've been very beneficial this whole time not just that one
• 58:03
  thing but that was I like that particularly because I have a hard time articulating that sometimes
• 58:07
  I think that that is a good way to articulate that yeah I appreciate that and it genuinely is
• 58:13
  like that's been an ongoing thing with me for years like no give me wisdom like you know wisdom
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  to understand how to do what it is that I already have been given the tools to do
• 58:21
  because I genuinely do like I told you before like the the idea of asking for more
• 58:26
  when I've already been given something yeah I think it's like I want to acknowledge and be
• 58:32
  grateful for the things I've been given and to to not multiply what I've been given to not take
• 58:38
  the knowledge I've been given and the the the health I've been given and the the connections the
• 58:42
  relationships the finances like all of the things that I've been given and not multiply them
• 58:48
  is disrespectful I think that that's ungrateful right to not want to expand that stuff and then use
• 58:55
  all of those resources albeit knowledge or wealth or anything else for kingdom purpose obviously yeah
• 59:01
  and I think we can do that and impact is the currency of success right yeah that's such a great
• 59:06
  reminder and I think again having a kingdom mindset where I think a lot of Christians have this
• 59:12
  like kind of like the rooftop example of somebody coming to rescue us off a rooftop whereas I don't
• 59:18
  know like as a child of God who's been given to minion over this world I don't know like it'd be
• 59:23
  kind of cool to expand God's kingdom and conquer and not just sit back and be passive with my life
• 59:29
  like I think our our mission is to extend the gospel to all four corners of the earth and
• 59:36
  it yeah I don't know like so many of us I think we we just miss that like aggressiveness with
• 59:42
  the gospel like we we settle for things that are just the bare minimum God's I have so much more for
• 59:48
  you and like and it's for it's for it's for his glory and in the whole thing but it's also for our
• 59:55
  enjoyment and our pleasure and our learning and our growth while we're kind of extending God's
• 1:00:00
  kingdom but yeah I don't know it's it's all it's really good stuff I mean it's the life of a
• 1:00:05
  Christian is awesome I think it's it's it's so cool and I think it's been so you know what's
• 1:00:12
  sort of looking for it just like neutered like it's been neutered to the point where like we're
• 1:00:17
  making docile men and we're we're creating like these women who are taking on more than they
• 1:00:24
  should handle and creating children that don't know what a biblical model even looks like or who
• 1:00:30
  God even is because they've never had it modeled for them and yeah gosh it's just like so much
• 1:00:34
  the stuff is just doesn't need to happen and in the United States of America you know we're could be
• 1:00:40
  a beacon on on the hill and I think we still are in a lot of ways thanks thanks to God and I think
• 1:00:46
  we could go so much further with this and I really I think with the whole
• 1:00:50
  maha thing and you know I've been a part of that I've been like the maha ball and all you know
• 1:00:54
  with these maha people and I don't even consider myself to be a maha person necessarily but
• 1:00:59
  I for me what I always rain into with the maha thing was just like I want to make I want to make
• 1:01:05
  I want to make Christianity great again I want to make you know God's people healthy and I want to
• 1:01:12
  God's rule and reign more pronounced than ever has been and yeah it's it's not just about America
• 1:01:19
  for me it's about it's about God's people and extending that mission in the gospel too as many
• 1:01:23
  people as we can like that's really what my whole mission is well I appreciate what you're doing
• 1:01:28
  million followers on Instagram are now hearing on a regular basis that that message from you not
• 1:01:33
  just about health but about faith and I think the the the marriage between those two things is
• 1:01:39
  absolutely fantastic often I if I if I give you last words here and tell you like what do you think
• 1:01:45
  is the most game-changing advice you would give to anybody listening like what would be the and I
• 1:01:51
  know it's really hard to say the one thing right yeah what would you leave us with in terms of
• 1:01:58
  what matters most in this in this yeah I mean I think I'm obviously again this is the obvious answer
• 1:02:08
  and and probably people won't be surprised by this but you can you can have the best health all
• 1:02:13
  the money in the world this is something that really got me my kids my kids would always ask me like
• 1:02:20
  dad would you if would you give up you know the the house for this big house or would you
• 1:02:27
  give up the dog for for for whatever like they always kind of give these like extreme examples
• 1:02:32
  of like to make you give up to exchange for this and and it just got me thinking I was like
• 1:02:37
  because I think I think one of my kids asked me like what would you give up for me and I was like
• 1:02:40
  dude nothing like there is nothing I would give up for you and it just got me thinking like how
• 1:02:46
  many of us will sacrifice our our faith or our kids or our wife for like a little bit more money at work
• 1:02:55
  like not even all the money in the world but like 10 extra thousand dollars a year for your job
• 1:03:00
  and you have to work more time to get it or like you know like we we we make these like
• 1:03:03
  micro sacrifices that are we're like giving up our family we're giving up our faith for like
• 1:03:08
  these little little sacrifices here and there and I just I think if you can start with your foundation
• 1:03:15
  that is deeply rooted in the truth of the gospel like that Jesus died for you that like he loves you
• 1:03:20
  that he wants to have a relationship with you and he's real and he's he is who he says he is
• 1:03:28
  who's the God of the universe like that that to me is so profound because everything from that
• 1:03:34
  stems like comes life right like your your health your finances all these things that you're
• 1:03:39
  you're talking about and you you can attest to that you've lived by the grace of God like
• 1:03:44
  that's what all stems from from that and the cool thing about that is that it's not even a prosperity
• 1:03:48
  gospel it's not like do this and get this it's more of just like there's blessing to be
• 1:03:53
  experience for those who are in Christ and if you're not in Christ all the other stuff that you
• 1:03:59
  could get that are blessings are not even close to a real blessing so that that would be my thing
• 1:04:04
  to leave people with is just start with with your relationship with God get to know him deeply
• 1:04:09
  and and watch your life change and and ask the Holy Spirit for wisdom because he will give it
• 1:04:13
  abundantly that would be and it is it's a priorities thing and I always go back to one of your core
• 1:04:20
  values find the values because then if you're ever out of alignment with your own values you will
• 1:04:26
  fear this feel the symptom of that yeah yeah for sure and I think that's important Austin I can't
• 1:04:32
  thank you enough for joining us today it's been a pleasure having you on to talk to you meet you
• 1:04:38
  get to spend some time with you and get to know your heart I love that anybody who's looking
• 1:04:44
  forward to getting ahold of Austin or learning more about what what he does at his practice as well
• 1:04:49
  as what he's personally up to because that's all social media fodder now right yeah I would say
• 1:04:54
  you looked out in the show notes and you'll find all the contact information you can follow my
• 1:04:58
  Instagram at doctor dot Austin dot lake but I thank you for what you're doing out there and I mean
• 1:05:04
  that in a very genuine authentic way I think the voice that you've created for yourself is one that
• 1:05:09
  people need to hear and and thank you for the authenticity because it is on apologetically you
• 1:05:17
  uh and I think that shows through and again I think that's your tremendous success is based on
• 1:05:21
  that authenticity so thank you yeah of course Mark I appreciate you having me in the
• 1:05:24
  and for reaching out and I'm looking forward to having more of these kind of conversations this is great
• 1:05:28
  I look forward to it buddy I'll talk to you soon all right thanks for joining us today on performance
• 1:05:33
  driven living with doctor Austin Lake and we'll see you next time