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Surprise Call-Up and Shock Absence? · Scots With A Mic

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Listen to. The.
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Boy, listen to the passion in Hunger Park.
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Let's jump again. Let's do it.
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Let's go on. Oh yeah, drained down by the.
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Fish Chancellor one for Scotland.
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Hello and welcome to another edition of Scots With a Mic,
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where we're here talking off in Scottish football from the past
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few days. I'm your host, Harry Mackintosh
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here in the hot seat for you today and I am joined by two
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great guests here, James Scott. James, how are you doing today?
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Hi, not too bad Scott to be back on hot off the yeah, hot off the
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Scott on squad. So plenty to talk about.
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Pleasure to talk about MD. It's been a crazy week and I
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think we've got a lot to talk about.
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Hopefully it's for you in the next few minutes or so.
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And I'm delighted to be joined here by Ramsey Bank.
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So first timer on the podcast. Ramsey welcome.
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Thanks for having me. Hoping to be making a few more
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appearances over the next few months or so.
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But it's some timing with going, going down at Ross County this
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week, having a having me on now. But we'll, we'll, we'll see how
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it goes. That's perfect.
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I promised all of our listeners that we've not got Ramsey here
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just to talk about the what's happened at Ross County over the
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last couple of days. So I do promise you that we'll
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spend more on rest of Scottish football as well.
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But it's good to have you both on board.
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Good to have you on the day that Steve Clark named his Scotland
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squad for the World Cup qualifiers, our first two World
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Cup qualifiers against Denmark and Belarus.
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And we're going to go into the squad just in a little bit of
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detail at the moment and we'll get your thoughts on it.
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But I just want to get an overall picture of what you're
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thinking the squad looks like. So James, we'll get you to
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think. Come on board.
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First of all, with your opinions, what what do you think
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in the whole do you think of the squad at home?
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Well, it's just it's nice to see a few the the names, the
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stronger names that have been missing for the last.
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Well, I was going to say the last few months, but maybe even
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longer for guys like Garin Hacky, but yeah, it's it's
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decency there. The inclusions of Dork,
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Christie, Hecky. Some folk might not agree with
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us, but it is nice to see McClain back as well because I
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do feel he's quite a reliable player on the Clark and
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obviously someone Clark trusts. So it's it's good to have that
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option again. And yeah, I mean, it's just when
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you look at the scores, overall midfield is looking very strong.
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In fact, I can't really remember seeing quite a strong selection
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as that in the past. I mean you've got 8 midfielders,
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half them are playing this area or are due to playing in Syria.
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And Lena Millard didn't get any game time if it's an easy this
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week, but I can't imagine that'll be too far in the
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distant future. And yeah, so it's it's good to
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see sort of the inclusion of the guys come back.
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So looking at defence in other areas at the goalkeeping is a
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wee bit weaker, but overall it's a really strong squad and I
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think the confidence is coming back again.
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I know we didn't have the best summer and obviously spring
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wasn't much better either, so I feel I feel good going into this
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campaign seeing that getting released.
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I like the fact that you're optimistic.
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We want to have as much optimistic as possible in
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Scotland and that's great to see and we're going to try and make
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sure that we pronounce Ben Dalt's name properly now.
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It's oh, Gannon Dalt's, Yeah, Sorry.
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You know what? I've got that wrote down and I
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went. You can't forget that because
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that's going to in a few years time, that will just be common.
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You would say Gannon Dalkin. It'll be household name,
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hopefully, yeah. I'm trying my best not to make a
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Legend of Zelda joke. You can make as many jokes as
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you want can make as many jokes as you want.
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You want Ramsey. Let's see, let's have your
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opinions on this and we'll go into in more detail in a minute,
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but just your your thoughts in it.
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I don't know. It's a, it is a classic Steve
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Clark Scotland squad. To be honest.
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I, I don't mean to rain on the positive positivity parade, but
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I'm quite, I'm very much to the side of Steve Clark's done well
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for Scotland, but it's time for something different.
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And that's not so much because I think international managers
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have a raw deal when it comes to squad selection.
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I think when it comes to players getting called up, I think a lot
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of international fans when they're looking at the national
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teams have like shiny new toy syndrome.
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They want the, you know, the hot new thing to be in the squad.
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So I don't have a huge problem with the squad.
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I'd, I'd, I'd like to see Tommy Conway in there.
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I think something I've been worried about over the past few
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years is where are the exciting strikers?
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And now we've got I think 2 really big ones in, in Bowie,
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who's made it and Conway who hasn't.
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So I would have liked to see him in there.
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Good to see Hickey back. It was a really nasty injury he
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had, so hopefully be a boost for him.
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But the squad looks OK. But I I just know when it comes
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to football on the pitch, it's, it's, it's probably not going to
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look pretty. Think about how I feel.
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I have to watch Ross County at the weekend, then international
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break comes and I have to watch this Scotland football as well.
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You you've got the best of both worlds, don't you?
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I don't know if I'd say best mate, but it's definitely
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something. That definitely something
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indeed. Just going through the the run
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in for the the squad. We've got 8 PA players have went
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out from the the gene friendlies.
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Connor Baron, Tommy Conway, Josh Duke, Andy Irvin, probably
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McCrory, Nathan Patterson, Kieran Slicker and Seamus Wilson
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and income rank Christie Zander, Clark, Lyndon Dykes, Ben Duke,
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Ben Gannon, Duke. We'll get that eventually.
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We'll get that eventually. I do promise you.
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Aaron Hickey, Dom Haim, Liam Kelly and Katie McLean.
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And you talked about Tommy Conway.
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I would like to bring him up straight away to begin with
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because I think he's been very unlucky.
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Scored at the weekend and of course we know that George Hurst
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and Linda Dykes both scored in the in the championship.
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Do we think James come to you first?
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What what do you think about Tommy Conway?
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I think he's probably the big name that's missing at that list
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so far. Yeah, and I mean, I think Clark
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did reference that when he was talking, didn't he said he felt
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a little bit sorry for Tommy Conway not been included.
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Yeah, he. Said it was sorry, I will do.
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I mean, he said it was Linden Dykes.
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His physicality, especially for the two games against Denmark
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and Belarus being away from home, is the reason why Tommy
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Conway's missing out in London Dykes and.
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You know, I would, I do agree with him there, Like London
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Dykes, even when he's not been playing well at club football,
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has proven to be a guy Scotland can rely on and especially in
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these away games where you're maybe not having as much
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possession. I'm hoping that's not the case
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against Belarus obviously, but Denmark could be a game where
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we're not dominating the ball as much.
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We might find times when we're under the caution, it's loose
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balls getting punted out from the defensive for under the
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caution bet and that can be areas London Dykes thrives and
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to sort of give us time to get up the patch and get Flack ones
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to runners like Dork. But at the same time, I do think
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when you look at the four strikers that we've called up,
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She Adams, Barry Dykes and Hearst, She Adams the only one
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that offers something about but more different I'd say at that
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group. I don't know if I'm maybe
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talking too generally you can just look at the shape of the
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guys. But you know, Barry Dykes and
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Hearst offered maybe a lot the same and I'm not against Barry,
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Ben and the squad at all. He's had a great start the
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season perhaps obviously two goals against Dundee's and
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scored the absent Belta against Belgrade in the Conference
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League. So I mean for me it would be
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harsh that we drop out for a Conway because Conway does.
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He has shown to really have an eye for goal, especially at the
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level him Dykes and Harsh they're all playing at down
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South. So yeah, I do feel, I do feel
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sorry if I'm but it's time I'll come.
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I'm sure in a year or so we'll definitely have more permanent
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feature of the squad. Yeah, I, I think firstly for me,
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just looking at the the strikers in general, that you were saying
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exactly the same thing. Now, I was saying earlier in
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private chats and everything about the the strikers, about
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George Harris and Linden Dykes in particular feel that they're
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too similar. And I no, I think if, if you're
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going to call one of them, I think that was fine.
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I think two of them might not work, but that's just my
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personal opinion. Into the bench and and those are
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both your options if you're not changing out too much choosing
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between them, it's much the same as I said.
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Yeah, exactly. Ramsey, do you have any thoughts
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on somebody else who could have been in could have been in for
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Tommy Conway? I mean, yeah, I don't, I don't.
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Without being too harsh, I don't see it with Hearst really.
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Obviously I can't claim to watch him all the time, but whenever,
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whenever I have seen him, I don't know, I I just don't
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really see it. Whereas Conway, again, hold my
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hands up. Not someone I watch too much,
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but whenever you do see him, there's footballers that excite
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you and he's got, I don't know, he's got a little turn in like
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1/2 yard of space, just work himself bit space to take a shot
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that I think Hearst just doesn't.
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Anyway, it's like you're talking about something different from
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your strikers. You want your strikers to be as
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different from each other as possible.
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And I think I'd be taking Conway over Hearst.
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I, I don't know, I think you're right in that it could be Hearst
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or Dykes. I think Dykes is probably a bit
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more established at international level.
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He's done the business for us in the past.
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So I'd probably keep just keep him in there.
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OK, that's fair enough. Absolutely.
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We are happy to see Aaron Heckey back.
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It will be his first call. It's his first call since
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October 2023. It will be his first cap since
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that time as well. Two no defeat against Spain and
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Seville, which were still not over without disallow goal.
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We're still we're still better about it, but we'll move on.
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Let's try try and best as possible.
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One thing I've marked down here, we've got three right backs in
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the shape of Aaron Heckey. We've got Max Johnson and we've
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got Anthony Ralston. James, what do you think?
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The fact that we've got three right backs, I mean we know that
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Aaron Hecke could put in the left if, if need be as well.
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But do you think that we've gone a little bit maybe 2 overboard
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with having three of the same position in that in that squad?
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We definitely don't need three. I mean you don't know what
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Clarke planning in terms of how he's wanting to, what shape he's
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wanted to take for these two games.
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We seem to, apart from the Iceland game gone more right
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back four. So you'd say there's probably
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not as much a need to have these excess fill backs that can maybe
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take up different roles. You also got asked what capacity
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and Hecky's in the squad for Clark's referenced in his
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interview that he doesn't expect to get 2 sets and 90 minutes out
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of Hecky. He's still in that period had
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been managed right back up to getting them into a full 90
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minute game. So we're not going to see, you
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know, a guy that's going to be playing for the full match in
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Copenhagen or Belarus. For me, it'll be Max Johnson.
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I can't hearsely say I'd rather rouse and was starting over him.
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But yeah, it's just good to see Hecky back in general.
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He was always a guy that was going to have to come back into
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the squad. We know what talent he is when
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he's fully failed, probably are starting right back depending on
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how the guy, the guys develop. So it's good to see him.
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I just wasn't sure. I thought maybe McCrory was a
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little bit unlucky not getting a call over roused and I think
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Mccrory's been in a good bit of form down at Bristol.
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But yeah, it's it's good regardless.
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I think the the feelback situation's looking good.
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Yeah, it's looking, it's looking good, isn't it?
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And I think we had, we've always had that issue with the left
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backs for a long time, the shape of Tierney and Andy Robertson.
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Now we're having the same situation from the right backs
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now who who's going to be playing near when you've got and
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Hickey, you've got Nathan Patterson who's not in this
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squad, but you'll be back soon. You would hope Anthony Wellston
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and Max Johnston altogether. So that's going to be one for
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the future to talk about. Let's talk about players who
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we're we were thinking might be in the squad of people we were
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assuming that were unlucky to miss out on.
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I had a couple of names personally.
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We, you know, I thought personally, Josh Mulligan in
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particular would have been a good call up for this squad.
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I think he started brilliantly for Hibs over the course of the
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season. You know, you impressed me a lot
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at Dundee, but he's also impressed me very much at Hibs.
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He's become, you know, I think the goal he scored against
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Livingston the other week was unbelievable.
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You know, we've talked about there's two crazy goals in the
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space of a couple of days for Hibs.
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And you know, I would have thought that Josh Mulligan might
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have been in contention, particularly because Clark has
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been to Easter Road and watched a couple of Hibs schemes of late
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and Ramsey did anybody that you think could have made this squad
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and then any wild card choices that you would have liked to
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have seen? Just on Mulligan.
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I was on work experience with the Herald when Hibs played
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Michelin at Easter Road and Mulligan was everywhere.
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He's someone that I knew I knew was good when he was at Dundee
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but obviously seeing that in European game that, you know,
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unfortunately hips did lose a baby, sort of register him as a
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player more. Seeing him at that level, he was
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everywhere. I think one of the Cadden
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brothers, I get them mixed up. Sorry, came off.
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Chris and Nikki. Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, yeah, I know the names,
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but I forget what. I forget who plays where, but.
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Chris plays on the right. Yes, that was it, That was it,
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Chris. Chris Cannon had to come off
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Chris Cannon and Mulligan went to right wing back and he just
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felt like a glove, no issues whatsoever.
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So I think in the future we'll be seeing him in the Scotland
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squad, if for nothing else than for that purpose.
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Someone who can do anything. I really rate him for anyone
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else. I'm sort of struggling to think
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of names that were unlucky to miss out.
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I think just thinking of centre backs, I think Ryan Porches is
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kind of in the limbo right now. It'd be fair to say I don't know
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the the the the Ryan Gold hype train seems to have died down a
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little bit. Unfortunate, but.
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Ryan Gold wouldn't be able to have got into the squad because
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he's still injured, so that was something that we had to have to
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mention straight away. Oh, right.
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OK, fair. His name.
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So yeah, he was. He's been injured.
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I know that he's back. So this is a weird thing.
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So I was speaking to Joey Wolfs of Slave is on this podcast as
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well. And I've found out as well that
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the Vancouver manager has allowed him to train.
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This was a couple of weeks ago, allowed him to train indoors,
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but he's not allowed to train outdoors.
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So I don't know what that's about.
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That's a very I've never heard that before.
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It might, it might be, it might be something more common as much
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in other places, but it's something I've never heard of
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before. But that's something that we,
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you know, I, I do like Rangled and that's definitely one that
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we'll probably speak about when he's back and available.
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But he can't. He couldn't have been available
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for this squad. I will say he's he's not been in
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the last few anyway, so. Yeah, that that's the reason
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pretty much why because he got injured right at the beginning
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of the season. James, did you have something
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else did you wanted to bring out?
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Yeah, this might be a bit more of a wild card, but Clark did
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touch on his interview how he always showed faith and the
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younger guys and he's willing to call for no matter what that
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age. And just looking at the
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midfield, there's there is a lack of web we've got in our
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team. I think especially when you're
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trying to line up that midfield, I think it's quite likely
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someone who isn't sued to that wild left possession.
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F dork is on the right and we sort of take up sort of
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formation where there's more wingers, not field backs or the
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the white man. Someone's going to have to blink
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something. John Mcginn's might be going to
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have to fellow left midfield possession.
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I thought not to start of SA but I did think Curtis Finley might
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have been an option. Yeah, Finley Curtis.
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Yeah. Finley, sorry, Finley.
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Curtis, yeah, just he has made quite a good start to the season
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at Rangers. Obviously he's got his three
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goals, one against Panathinaikos, score at the
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weekend against Saint Martin's. So I spared Rangers blushes
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there from an even worse start to the season than the haven't.
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So 18 years old. Maybe it would have been nice to
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see him involved. But I suppose is a is going to
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be sort of not a baptism of fire.
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But we've really got to be on it in the first game.
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We've been Denmark away. So he's probably he's probably.
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So I'll leave it off that, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
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And I do agree, I thought maybe fiddly Curtis just as a wild
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card more than anything would have been a good option.
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I think with that left win by that left win role, even been at
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this year for a little while, we've had everybody over there.
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We've had John McCain, we've had Lewis Morgan, we've had Ryan
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Christie. Ryan Christie often yeah yeah
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you know we feel as well dope coming back in is is is not just
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welcome inclusion because it's dope him and always capable of
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but. He's doke.
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Mcgannon Doke sorry when you know when he's been missing,
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there has been a very striking lack of width.
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That was a very welcome addition to the team when we were playing
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Croatia and Poland and, you know, he was sort of tangling
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his fill back in knots and those fixtures.
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So yeah. Yeah, it's good.
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It'd be good to have somebody on that left when when position
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eventually. And I do think that Finley
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Curtis is going to be one for the future and who knows, maybe
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if he does keep up his form he might be in with a shout of a
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Scotland call up. A couple of other names I put
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down on my list just for future reference was Stuart Finley.
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I thought maybe a good start at Hearts maybe would have seen him
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back in the squad, particularly because he knows Steve Clark
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well enough from his time at Kilmarnock and his only other
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call up has been under Steve Clark.
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So maybe I thought that Stuart Finley might have been a little
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bit of a wild card choice, but it's not to be for him.
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But who knows if he keeps improving, if he keeps playing
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the top of his game, he'll probably be in the squad later
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on the year. Let's quickly move on and talk
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about the. I just want to talk about the
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midfielders. A look at that midfield.
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I think that's as strong as a midfield as we've had in a very,
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very long time. And James, you touched on that a
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little bit briefly. I just wanted you to touch it.
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What do you think in general about the midfield?
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And we'll include Ben Ganondoke in there as well.
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See, we're getting better and we'll include him in there
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because he was lifted as a midfielder.
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No, I would say that's a forward attacker.
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But let's just see if argument see, he's in the midfield and
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Rancrest D, Lewis, Ferguson, Bing and Billy Gilmore, John
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McGinn, Kenny McLean, Linda Miller, Scott Mctominy.
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It's not that bad a midfield option really, when you think
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about it. No, I mean, but I was looking at
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when it came out, I did think there's probably a few nations
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in Europe they wouldn't mind having, I mean, a few.
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But some of those names and all this they make Tommy.
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It's been a cracking start to the season with man in the match
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performance for now play the weekend grabbing his goal of a
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little header. But yes, it is a very good it's
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a very good bunch of guys to pick from and and our good
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quality of visit is the goals there brings.
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You know, we're, we don't have that out and out striker that's
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going to, you know, the prolific striker, the guy every team
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wants. So, but when you look here,
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you've got Christie Dogs not scored for us yet, but you know,
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it's coming again, McDonald. You know, these are guys who are
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all going to chip in over the course of their campaign and get
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the numbers in. So yeah, it's good to see.
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It's very good to see and Ramsey just by talking about Scott
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McDonald, we've seen his goal on Saturday against a swallow 12
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last season Syria. Yeah, Siri, I'm a best player in
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the in the league last season Balandor nominee Ramsey.
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What is stopping him from winning the Balandor this year?
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Absolutely nothing that's. The right answer.
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That's the right answer. Who else?
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Who else is there? Like Dembele?
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Who? Like Yamal?
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Who? Nah, doesn't matter.
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Doesn't matter. We've got the best player in
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Syria, we've got a title winner. No, nothing's stopping him from
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doing it. It's good.
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It'd be good to see you as well because we've not had a Scotland
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squad with somebody that high recognition in a long time.
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I think Ali McCoy was the last in the ladies.
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I can't remember the the year now from the life of me who
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should have chased that up before we came on today.
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But yeah, that's the first. Scotland's gone a long time to
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have a balance or not many, so that's going to be great to see.
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I wouldn't. I think he's going to be a bit
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humble about it when he gets to the squad.
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I don't think he's good. He's not the one to brag about
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the whole thing, Scott. They told me about his ballad or
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nomination. We'll have a quick, quick run
21:38
through the games in a couple of weeks time.
21:41
And Denmark, Belarus, we'll have a probably another podcast on
21:44
these and then for another day. But just quickly your feelings
21:47
about it, Ramsay, we'll start with your feelings.
21:49
We'll start with Denmark away. It's tricky to start with.
21:52
But do you think maybe getting the trickiest game out and done
21:56
with straight away that can give us a platform or do you think we
21:59
need to look at and see that's a place we need to get a win or a
22:02
draw? Yeah.
22:03
I mean, it's a, it's a high pressure game considering, you
22:08
know, our form is really not the best.
22:13
You know, after having getting when we first qualified for that
22:17
second EUR, I wouldn't have thought a couple of years down
22:20
the line that Steve Clarke's goodwill would have drained
22:25
again because it's kind of gone up and down throughout his
22:28
tenure. But yeah, it really is a big
22:33
game in terms of how he's, you just got the manager, even
22:37
though, don't get me wrong, it's a very, very tough game.
22:40
So yeah, it's definitely an exciting one.
22:44
Exciting 1 and I think it's one that you've got to realise,
22:46
don't you, going into a high pressure environment like the
22:49
parking stadium and we've played parking loads of times before in
22:52
the past. We know that we can.
22:54
No, we've got a good record against Denmark to be honest.
22:57
We've got very good. I think we've played them.
22:59
I think it was, if I remember correctly, I was looking at this
23:01
earlier, I think we've played them about 15 times and we've
23:03
won about 10 times over the course of the years.
23:06
But this is probably a Denmark team that are not maybe
23:10
declining. I think it's probably run to see
23:12
because some people will see that they are good EUR 2020
23:15
campaigns, not really done anything after that.
23:18
But I think they're still a very good side, aren't they James?
23:20
They're still got a lot of quality all over the pitch.
23:24
Yeah. I mean, we'll touch more on
23:26
this. We may have a closer look at
23:27
Denmark and the Opposition Analysis podcast, but yeah, I
23:33
mean, there's no Christian Ericsson.
23:35
I don't know if I can actually mention if he's with a club
23:38
right now or that's why, yeah. I I clarified this as well.
23:41
He's definitely not at a club at the moment.
23:43
But I mean, Denmark is always one of these sides.
23:46
I'm going to give you a good game.
23:48
They're, you know, the high caliber European side, They've
23:50
got decent regulars across the top five leagues in Europe.
23:55
So yeah, there'll be a match. And to be honest, I wouldn't
23:58
mind just getting a draw over there and coming back home to
24:01
have something to play for because, you know, campaigns are
24:05
always tricky because the margin forever error and the qualifier
24:11
is always so, so thin. You can't really afford to drop
24:14
points in any of the games and when you shrink it down, turn it
24:20
into three home 3 away, you know, those games become even
24:24
more important. So yeah, be nice to get a good
24:27
start on the front foot, just get something away from home and
24:30
then we could kick on from there.
24:31
At least haven't not given their mark an edge in the first game
24:36
going forward. This is something that we'll
24:39
come to in another podcast, James, but just want to get your
24:42
thoughts on the group in general.
24:43
Do you think it a lot of people are saying it's quite an even
24:46
grip when you consider there's not much between the sides in
24:48
terms of world rankings is? It going to.
24:52
Be the up and comers and the and the whole because we obviously
24:54
know all about Greece now and they are a good side and they
24:57
look like they're not much better team than what they were.
25:00
You know, they for the last 10 or so years, maybe more than
25:03
that and probably their best squad in general since they won
25:06
your 2004. And what do you think of the
25:09
group in general? I mean, it's I do kind of dread
25:16
it in some respects. I know I said earlier on I felt
25:18
a bit more confident looking at this squad this morning.
25:21
But yeah, it's it's an incredible tight grip.
25:24
I think this is, there's not much between Scotland, Denmark
25:30
and geez. And I think whoever qualifies
25:32
from a lobby to other countries, whether or not they get through
25:37
the the playoff system, that'll probably feel a bit disheartened
25:41
about, you know, I see I might you might be seeing a different
25:44
behind say you don't know how the games are going to go, but
25:47
you know, I beg a big country with good players is going to
25:50
miss out. But yeah, Belarus obviously got
25:54
to put them away. Don't like to to I'm not too
25:57
much because we know what we've been like in the past.
25:58
But yeah, it's going to be it's going to be a right fight.
26:01
And I think the way points getting dropped all over the
26:02
place by by all countries, all all three big ones, but.
26:08
Yeah, they're all big. They're all difficult OE games
26:11
as well, even with the Belarus being behind closed doors and a
26:14
neutral venue as well. I think it's neutral as well,
26:16
isn't it? I'm sure wrote that down
26:17
somewhere. But yeah, they've could be 3
26:19
difficult OE games. Especially so far it's in
26:22
Hungary that game's getting played.
26:23
Yeah, I thought it was. I had a note for it earlier.
26:25
I've lost it. Never mind, we do not on this
26:28
show. Do you believe that?
26:29
Anyway, let's move on and we'll come back to Scotland for
26:32
another podcast. We'll try and talk a bit more
26:35
about the games in general and another podcast.
26:37
Let's move on to the SPL Roundup and well, I was going to start
26:42
in the Premiership, but I want to go straight to the
26:44
Championship and I'm going to go to Ramsey.
26:45
First of all, it's good to have Ramsey on here on our first show
26:49
and I did on his first show and I did from something that we
26:53
didn't do this on purpose. We he was booted to come on here
26:57
or before the news on Sunday that don't carry it got sacked
27:01
as Ross County manager Ramsey, I'll let you come on board just
27:04
to get your thoughts on that and Jim, well before we talk about
27:07
the game that happened on Saturday.
27:09
So what's your thoughts on don't carry his departure Ross County?
27:13
I do apologize. I think he I said he was sat, he
27:16
was mutually terminated, so I do.
27:18
Apologize. Yeah, he got it.
27:19
Was it was the the Old Mutual consent?
27:24
I don't know how I Yeah, I mean, when someone in football gets
27:28
mutual consented, it's just kind of a nice way to say they've
27:32
been given the boot, I think. But I don't know, you know, you
27:34
don't know what conversations go on.
27:37
But so for context, Don Kelly's initial appointment as Ross
27:43
County manager was something that was sort of a long time
27:46
coming. So to to finish his playing
27:48
career, he came back to us, lifted the championship as a
27:52
player, went into our coaching setup, was assistant under
27:58
numerous managers and eventually, you know, everyone
28:04
knows that Derek Adams third spell went as well as it did and
28:07
Don Carey got the interim job. He got us our first ever win
28:13
against Rangers in the league in Dingwall and eventually managed
28:17
to keep us up via the playoff system against Race Rovers.
28:22
Goes back to burn that up, don't you?
28:24
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
28:26
You could have your revenge this time.
28:28
Yeah, so we get into the season after, you know, everyone's
28:32
feeling all right, we lose some key players, but you know,
28:35
everyone's feeling OK because, you know, it's done at the helm.
28:38
He's a club legend, came through the youth system.
28:41
There's something, there's a good, there's a good feeling
28:44
about having a Ross County like, like a Ross County LED dugout
28:48
It, it starts purely that season, but in the middle we
28:53
have a really, really strong stretch form, get some really
28:57
good results. We beat Kilmarnock away, we beat
28:59
Aberdeen away. We've got a really good core of
29:03
players. It seems like everything's going
29:04
to be fine with 9 games to go. Last season we had already
29:08
equalled our points tally from the season before and then it
29:12
all just falls apart. What initially seems like a blip
29:17
turns into defeat after defeat after defeat and eventually
29:22
we're back into the playoffs. And there is a sort there's sort
29:26
of a feeling of of this is this is a step too many playoffs
29:30
three seasons in a row. Turns out we were right.
29:32
We go down, we lose to Livingston.
29:35
And then there's sort of a, you know, everyone's like he's done
29:38
going to keep his job because you know, Ron McGregor, he's
29:43
been he's been looking at Don Don as a long term Ross County
29:49
manager for years now. Is he going to is he going to
29:51
get rid of him based off of this eventually?
29:54
It doesn't. We recruit really well this
29:57
summer. And I still, despite how things
29:58
have gone, I still think we've recruited really well.
30:01
Yeah. I was going to bring that up
30:02
actually about your recruitment you've done, I think you've done
30:06
some of the best business in the league, vibrant and not only
30:09
somebody like Datelin Gallagher and Ross Docherty, Nikki Clark,
30:12
Gary Mackay, but somebody I was really like and wanted to get
30:15
our place was Aaron Lyall, somebody who I.
30:17
Really. Oh mate, yeah, he like I mean
30:21
yeah, that's the thing. I but I think that's sort of
30:23
worked against him. You know, he's been backed and
30:26
three games into the season we got a draw where to Airdrie
30:30
after having gone 2 nil up. But The thing is like we went
30:34
two nil up in that game, but it was the the goals were both from
30:36
corners. The football wasn't anything to
30:38
write home about. And then we lost our home to
30:40
Saint Johnstone. We didn't look great.
30:42
We were it was basically we we've reverted.
30:44
But like the basis on which Don kept his job, I think was that
30:49
it was going to be different. We were going to play on the
30:50
front foot, the five at the back.
30:52
Murder ball was going to be gone.
30:54
We were going to, you know, Jay Henderson was back from low and
30:57
we were going to play with wingers.
30:58
It was going to be exciting but we sort of reverted back to the,
31:01
you know, 10 men behind the ball and it was rubbish.
31:03
And I tell you what it was, it was devastating to watch at the
31:08
weekend, losing to Partick Thistle.
31:10
The football was torrid. They looked so much better than
31:14
we did. They they scored and I looked
31:17
towards the dugout and Don Cowie booted the water bottle and I'm
31:21
not sure how much you guys know about Don, but he's just.
31:26
He's always cool, He's always seemed cool and calm and
31:28
collected. Seems to be.
31:29
The kind. Of guy well, no, that's that's
31:31
the thing he's not he's very cool, calm, collected.
31:34
And I tell you what, on a personal note, he's just a
31:37
lovely person and I do feel terrible saying all this because
31:41
I I've spoken to him A story I've got is that I'm half
31:45
American. I've got a cousin who my wee
31:48
cousin was over visiting from America last summer.
31:51
I took him to one of our PCs and friendlies against Clapham and
31:55
the Highland League team and Don Kelly came to the side of the
32:00
pitch after the game and I was like, oh Don, this is, this is
32:03
my wee cousin. He's over from America.
32:05
He spoke to us for a good 10 minutes about, you know, his
32:09
trip and what I liked about Scotland and what I didn't like
32:12
about Scotland. Just a lovely person and a great
32:14
representative for what Ross County Football Club should be.
32:18
So to see him go in this manner is devastating and I really do
32:22
hope he lands on his feet. But the the football was off.
32:25
Not good to watch. I don't even want to think about
32:27
how much time and money have wasted over the past year
32:30
watching that Ross County team. So it's OK, Don't worry.
32:35
You, you, I I had to suffer Neil Collins ball last season, Neil
32:39
Collins ball last season. And then it was, it was like
32:41
murder ball at times. But we did get a win against
32:44
Dunfermline. So I suppose that that's
32:46
something. Yeah.
32:47
I'm, I I've not read. I've not read it up, so I will
32:51
so clarify me if I'm wrong. Imagine it's John Robertson
32:54
who's going to be in caretaker charge.
32:56
It is. I imagine he's going to be a
33:00
short term solution. We don't know, you know, Ross
33:03
County have you know, he Dong was an interim manager, a
33:06
caretaker manager, then became the permanent.
33:08
Do we imagine John Robertson, I know that he was brought in in
33:11
the summer. Do we imagine he's going to be
33:13
anywhere near that job or do you think it's going he's going to
33:16
be the assistant again? Just what's your thoughts in
33:19
general about what's going to happen next?
33:21
Do you think, John, could she get the job or do you think
33:25
you've got somebody in mind that you would like to see come to
33:28
Ross County? We have look at Plato like
33:30
Robbie Nielsen, who was the championship.
33:33
Do you think somebody like him would be interested in Ross
33:35
County? I don't think Rob was going to
33:38
be anywhere near it, I think. I don't think Ron McGregor is
33:42
really, I don't think that's the type of statement Ron McGregor
33:45
wants to put out. He appointed Don and it was sort
33:48
of a, it was a very romantic appointment, you know, came into
33:54
county as a young kid, came up to the youth system, etcetera,
33:57
etcetera. I think John Robertson, you
34:01
know, you know, he's had managerial success in the past,
34:06
but I don't think, I don't think that's the message Ron MacGregor
34:08
would want to put out. He's yeah, I don't really know
34:14
how to put it. But in terms of other names, you
34:18
know, yeah. Robbie Nielsen, I think, I think
34:22
he's, is he not #2 to Lee Johnson over in Yeah, that's
34:25
right. Yep, he's #2 to Lee Johnson.
34:29
I think it's. In Belgium, right?
34:31
Yeah, I don't know. He'll probably earning good
34:33
money over there. I think looking at some other
34:38
names, I think I've seen Reese McCabe is that that's a very
34:43
exciting potential appointment. The thing is like he he wants
34:47
his teams to play very attractive football and well
34:50
after, after what I've watched Ross County teams play in the
34:52
past few years, that's a very attractive prospect.
34:55
But also that doesn't necessarily win you leagues.
34:58
And we've already got ground to make up if we want to go up
35:02
automatically. So I think sort of a sort of
35:05
safe ish appointment appointment if you want to call that like
35:08
Tony Dockerty or someone like that might be what Roy decides
35:11
to go with. That like he's very somebody I
35:16
thought of as well. I thought as soon as I heard the
35:18
news maybe Tony Docherty would be showing up in Dinwell and
35:21
that was my first and thought in my head straight away.
35:23
Just because we know what we're saying about Robbie Nielsen.
35:25
I think he is as Belgium will get a clarify on that for
35:28
another show probably. But I think he'd be a good fit
35:32
for you. Do you think he'd be a good fit
35:34
for you? Tony Docherty at Ross County?
35:38
To be honest, I don't see why not.
35:40
I think it went a bit sour at Dundee towards the end, but I
35:44
think he, he, I think he, I think he generally did OK.
35:51
I think, I don't know, I think managers come under a lot of
35:57
criticism. Even when Dundee weren't doing
35:59
well, I think I always saw him as a very competent manager, to
36:02
be honest. I want us to go there the Saint
36:04
Johnson Motherwell route and just find someone random from
36:08
the continent. Thanks somebody from Denmark.
36:11
To disappoint him. Yeah, just pick him up from the
36:14
street and go. You'll do.
36:15
I exactly. It's what it's worked very well
36:19
for Motherwell so far, so I'm guessing that it could work for
36:21
us. Can't even for the same.
36:23
Yeah, we're not. Yeah.
36:24
To be. Why not?
36:25
We have a, We do have a Norwegian supporters club, so.
36:28
I know, yes, I've heard, I've heard about the Norwegian
36:32
Supporters Club, but that's another story for another.
36:34
Yeah. That's another story for that
36:36
time. James has been very quiet, so
36:39
we'll get James involved on Championship talk, we'll talk
36:42
about our favorite subject and that is a 5 Derby win for Rath
36:45
Rovers and Wraith Rovers are now 11 home games unbeaten against
36:49
Dunfermline. Going back to last season.
36:51
Rath Rovers have got Aaron beaten in 13 games, they are the
36:55
longest side unbeaten catching back from last season and Lewis
37:00
Vaughn has now scored an 8 goals in the five Derby.
37:03
A brilliant Friday night, James, but despite the fact you were
37:06
not there, you were not there on Friday night.
37:09
Yeah, I had a prior engagement sound Fender, but I was
37:14
disappointed say BBC had decided to move that so my my two
37:18
favorite things had clashed but no another routine 5 to RB for
37:23
the Rovers. I've I don't see that last smile
37:27
on my face, but it's. Not easy being a way through a
37:31
supporter against Dublin because there's always another game
37:33
coming up. Not that long to go.
37:35
In a few weeks time, you just go, oh God, we've got to do it
37:37
again. We've got to make sure the
37:38
record keeps intact, especially because now we've lost two games
37:42
against Dunfellow East End. Now be the next game coming up.
37:45
But yeah, Lewis Vaughan. I mean, I think we could do a
37:48
whole podcast on Lewis Vaughan, but I don't think we'll have
37:50
enough time to do it. But let's see.
37:52
Let's just quickly talk about now.
37:54
Eight goals in the five Derby. No one scored more goals in that
37:57
fixture. And what he's went through and I
38:00
think he is the, you know, he is the story certainly for me
38:04
watching over the years, he is the the ultimate fairy tale in
38:09
football. Stories like all these injuries,
38:11
all these, you know, disappointments.
38:13
He doesn't, you know, he always backs until to come back.
38:16
He always backs himself to get stronger.
38:19
All these Acls, you know, he's had thigh injuries, hamstring
38:21
injuries as well. He's.
38:23
Just been unbelievable for 8th Rovers and I think no one was
38:26
happier in that S stand on on Friday night.
38:30
It was Lewis Vaughn that scored that goal.
38:32
Yeah, I mean, I think if you're over, fine.
38:34
You'll you know all too well what Lewis is capable of.
38:39
He definitely wouldn't be playing at this level if it
38:41
wasn't for the injuries he's had.
38:43
He'd be at a top club in Scotland for sure, but that's
38:46
sadly not the way it's worked out.
38:47
But it means everyone that starts Park gets to enjoy him
38:50
right now. Yeah, and he came on off the
38:53
bench on Friday night and did what he does best, put the ball
38:56
on the net. Didn't think it was the best
38:58
goal in the world. Speaking with a Dunfellon fan
39:01
today and yeah, I think we were both surprised the keeper
39:05
actually allowed to slip past them.
39:08
And the keeper had a nightmare on Friday because he classed
39:11
into two defenders. Yeah, Benedictus took a sore one
39:14
of them in the first half, didn't they?
39:16
But I mean, you forget what sort of reputation don't Lewis
39:21
Vaughn's got not just amongst Silver's fans, but Dunfeldon
39:24
fans too. Because I mean, when we're
39:26
talking about the game and get into the second-half, he felt
39:29
the Dunfell remember they starting to get their foot back
39:32
in the door a bit and, you know, dictate the ball have a bit of
39:35
possession. And he said he saw a #10 go up
39:38
on the board for the substitutes needs for here but go again.
39:41
I didn't realize, didn't realize that was how strongly they felt
39:44
about his school, school scoring abilities.
39:46
But yeah, it was it was a head mixed reviews on the Derby
39:52
duffel and being toothless was one of them.
39:55
Just not quite knowing what to do with the ball despite having
39:58
a lot of that. I think when Christine came on
40:01
they said they would talk better but still not enough to get the
40:05
ball in the back of the net and properly tested over so.
40:08
That's a strong start to the season for us.
40:10
So obviously we're just two points.
40:12
Austin Johnson, who have made the perfect start, beaten our
40:15
pro. Our pro 3 nil at the weekend,
40:19
got an 8 point lead to Ross County now, which was kind of to
40:22
add earmarked has been the guys going for the title.
40:24
So it's nice to be up that end of the league and this point in
40:28
the season, putting the points on the board.
40:31
Die Robeson has definitely continued to impress.
40:34
Think there's a little bit, I think the flag, the fans were
40:37
flagging a bit over the summer with sort of disappointing
40:41
results in the League Cup against East Kilbride and St.
40:43
Johnson. But terms of league, terms of
40:46
league games were certainly, certainly getting on fine.
40:49
Like you said, 13 on being in the league, stretching back to
40:52
it for April or March last season.
40:55
So yeah, good things coming at the Rovers right now.
40:58
Hopefully it continues. Yeah, hopefully continues, but
41:01
we're going to be trying to be and as possible.
41:03
But yes, we have a big game on Saturday.
41:05
We have a we have a big game on Saturday and we're hoping that
41:08
we can get three points. But you can come at me, Partick
41:11
Thistle supporters. If we if we don't.
41:14
I mean Partick's made that David again that I'm not touching this
41:17
before, but I don't think anyone was really impressed by the
41:20
appointment of, you know, the manager that came in Martin,
41:24
especially after all the, you know, the Graham get interviewed
41:28
and then deciding to move on going to Falkirk.
41:30
So, you know, beating Ross County if you wanted the weekend
41:34
up. But then well, you know, you
41:36
still got to get the results and they seem to be doing quite
41:38
well. So could be all the match at the
41:41
weekend. I think that Partick hosting us
41:44
at Mary Howe. I thought how sorry will
41:47
probably the tastiest one in the Championship.
41:50
Yeah, it could be it could be well, just about to go to the
41:53
Premiership, but we'll have a quick run through of that.
41:55
But I just want to quickly point out some news that came out last
41:59
week in regards to more and and to do game break.
42:03
Very sad news with over the the I'm sure everybody's seen it now
42:07
that his daughter passed away on Tuesday and he was still I don't
42:13
know how he could do it. He was still involved on
42:15
Saturday's game against here and he was saluted and I don't know
42:19
if he's seen it there was Motherwell support or was at
42:21
Tynecastle held a banner at there at Tynecastle and it was
42:26
unbelievable just seeing the respect and you know, we don't
42:29
want to see anybody in football and not even football in life in
42:33
general have this. Nobody should lose a child that
42:35
young and we just want to see our thoughts are with you Doogie
42:39
when we hope that everything's going to be hopefully come back
42:43
to some sort of normality quite soon and we hope that your
42:46
family taking as much time as you need.
42:49
So best wishes to you and your family and good luck for the
42:53
rest of the season as well. More.
42:56
Let's quickly go to the Premiership and we'll go to
42:58
Tynecastle. Ramsey 3 all between Hearts and
43:02
Motherwell. Motherwells were 3 1/2 after 60
43:06
minutes, but then Hearts got three goals in the last half an
43:09
hour. Would Motherwell have been happy
43:11
with a point at field time or do you think they because maybe a
43:15
point at Tynecastle is not a bad result but because they had it 3
43:18
nought with half an hour to go, do you think there'll be more
43:20
disappointment or you think you'll say you know what the
43:22
point is not too bad at the start of the season at Tank
43:24
Castle? No, I think they'll be furious.
43:28
I think I think it's obviously not a bad result in a in a
43:32
vacuum, but going three nil up like 2 nil up and it coming back
43:38
to two 2 is one thing, but 33 nil is a crazy comeback.
43:43
And I think Motherwell are an interesting case for this
43:45
season. I think A-Team that's been in
43:47
the top, like top flight for so long.
43:49
They've been treading water a bit over the past few seasons,
43:51
but it it seems like they're starting to play some really
43:54
good football. Even even though they didn't
43:56
quite get the win at the weekend, it sounds like they're
44:00
playing some really exciting stuff.
44:02
So that will be an interesting one to look at.
44:07
But yeah, no, I don't think there'll be any.
44:09
I don't think in that dressing room or among their fan base,
44:11
they'll be like, oh, you know what, before the game, we've
44:13
been taking the point. No, I think they'll they'll be
44:15
devastated at that. But I think they they look
44:18
promising because they are a team that, as I said, of sort of
44:22
maybe over the past few seasons going been going through the
44:24
motions a bit. Yeah, it's good to see Mother
44:29
were playing some good football. I mean, I've watched their first
44:31
game. I have to say I've not seen too
44:33
much of them, but they've watched their first game against
44:34
Rangers in the second-half especially.
44:36
They were fantastic that game and I've heard so many good
44:40
reviews about the way that they've been playing lately.
44:41
It's unbelievable how Motherwell have been.
44:44
You know, they've always got good football players and you
44:47
know, they've always seemed to play football in the right way.
44:49
But it's good to see them playing this style of football
44:51
and doing it quite well, especially quite early on under
44:54
a manager's tenure. And they're doing it, of course,
44:56
without their star player Lennon Miller from last season, who's
45:00
hopefully going to light up for Syria quite soon as well.
45:03
And let's quickly talk about Russell Martin at Rangers.
45:06
Rams will get your thoughts on this as well.
45:08
Russell Martin has got three wins at 9 at Rangers.
45:12
He's got the worst start and any manager has made at the club in
45:15
36 years. So I think that was the league
45:17
start. So I do apologize if I've got
45:18
that wrong. League start in 36 years, Club
45:21
Brugge in the Champions League next, then Celtic Park.
45:25
Sorry, not Celtic Park, Celtic at Ibrox.
45:27
I do apologize for that. What do you think is going to
45:32
happen to Russell Martin? Do you think these now have got
45:34
to be when either any way possible, even if they do get
45:38
knocked down the Champions League, do you think that he's
45:41
just got to get these two wins in two high profile matches?
45:46
I mean, yeah, I mean Celtic, Rangers, you know, with the way
45:51
those fan bases are, you have to be perfect.
45:54
I can't even begin to imagine the pressure those managers are
45:58
under even when things are going well, let alone when they're
46:00
not. It genuinely looks like it could
46:08
be a Tom Kelly situation where it's, you know, it's only a few
46:11
games into the season and you're gone.
46:14
Obviously you know, the difference being Martin's just
46:17
just in pretty much, but I don't know, it's, it's a funny thing
46:23
for Rangers where it seemed like they were back and there to stay
46:28
when they won the league under Gerard and they've just been
46:30
cycling through managers. You can't do that forever.
46:36
And before the season started, I was saying to my mates and
46:38
people I talked to about football that if Rangers don't
46:42
win the league league this season, they need to stick with
46:46
Martin if it looks like he's got an idea.
46:48
Because, you know, chopping and changing is not how you
46:51
eventually have success. But keywords, well, the key
46:56
phrases are if they don't win the league, but it looks like
47:01
the form they're in right now, they won't even finish second.
47:03
So yeah, I don't know what's going to happen there.
47:06
He's already under huge pressure.
47:09
His it's, it's a bit, it's a bit of a weird case with Russell
47:12
Martin because I was lucky enough to again in my week with
47:16
the Herald, I was lucky enough to go to a Rangers pressure
47:19
presser. And he does in in his
47:23
interviews, he plays a sort of unflappable, you know, measured
47:27
type. But something I thought was
47:28
strange was when he called out his player for the the
47:36
pronunciation is Igomani, I think.
47:41
Is that how you say it? I'm not sure for not coming on
47:44
and that's. The race you're going to get
47:45
from me, Igomani or Igomani, one of the two.
47:50
Yeah, I don't know. I think things like that, you
47:55
know, it shows that you're a bit rattled, which is fair enough,
47:59
but I don't know He, he seems to want to play this sort of
48:01
unflappable type and I don't know, highlighting that for Mega
48:07
Man, it seems like the cracks are beginning to show a bit and
48:09
I think he genuinely is on a timer despite not being long in
48:13
the job. Yeah, I think everybody's trying
48:16
to feel that we are already certainly around Ibrox that may
48:19
be so early on in our takeover that they probably have a point
48:22
in the wrong person. But who knows, a couple of you
48:25
know, you know what football's like as soon as you get a couple
48:27
of good wins, even in high profile high pressure matches
48:32
that the whole week can change within a couple of days.
48:34
So let's watch this space and we'll see what happens with
48:37
Russell Martin next. Next up, we're just about to
48:41
wrap it there. I think for today, we've just
48:43
got time for a good story. I think we'll give you a good
48:47
story to end our podcast this week.
48:50
And I wanted to talk about and the guys won't know that I'm
48:52
talking about this because we I've given, as I said already,
48:55
I've given them all my notes about what we're going to bring
48:57
up. But I just wanted to bring been
48:58
up on a fairy good. We attend our, our podcast this
49:01
week. And I wanted to talk about Sky
49:03
Stout, who is the Kilmarnock women's footballer who is 16
49:08
years old. She signed her first
49:09
professional contract and she got all this hassle in line
49:14
because she's got acne around her face.
49:17
You know, she's covered in spots and it's not nice at all.
49:19
And you know, any teenagers simply not good.
49:23
You know, I've had it and it's not good.
49:24
And you'd see all these online shows and it's just unbelievable
49:28
what she's gone through. And I probably would have rolled
49:31
up in a corner, cried about this.
49:32
But instead she's made a great statement saying she's going to
49:36
let her football do the talking. And then she's only 16 and she's
49:40
only played two professional matches.
49:43
Last week, she scored a goal against St.
49:45
Johnstone, and on Sunday, she scored against Berrimere Thistle
49:49
on Sunday. So she is definitely letting our
49:51
football do the talking. And that's a very good way that
49:54
we can sign up for this podcast. James, anything you want to
49:58
bring up to end this podcast? Anything we've not covered?
50:01
No, All good. All good, Ramsey, anything you
50:04
like to run up for the end of the podcast?
50:06
Yeah, just that, you know, Sky Star is obviously a fantastic
50:15
footballer, but the people going at her online behind faceless
50:20
accounts will always be horrible people, no matter whether she's
50:24
got a few spots on her face. It seems like she's a very
50:26
resilient person and I definitely admire her a lot.
50:31
Yeah, that's about it. Yeah, I think we all admire her.
50:35
My thanks then to James and Ramsey for joining me this week
50:38
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50:56
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50:58
Just want to say on behalf of all of us, we want to wish all
51:01
the teams that are taking place in Europe this week very good
51:04
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51:06
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51:09
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51:13
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51:14
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51:17
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51:19
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