Latest / I Am All In with Scott Patterson / I Am All In…Again: Ring a Ding Ding (Season 3, E11 “I Solemnly Swear”)

Transcript

I Am All In…Again: Ring a Ding Ding (Season 3, E11 “I Solemnly Swear”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh that's just you. I
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: am all in again with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to I Am all in Again. This is
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: Susanne French. I am not Scott Patterson. As you can tell,
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: Scott has been a little under the weather unfortunately and
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: lost his voice, so doesn't really, you know, lend itself
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: to recording a podcast. But he's on the mend and
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: he will be back on the air soon. So today
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: we will be recapping season three episode eleven. I solemnly
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: swear this episode aired on January twenty first, two thousand
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: and three, and our guest today is Ernie Halter, who
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: actually appeared in a background role in the season one
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: Christmas episode Forgiveness and stuff, and we'll talk more about
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: that in a little bit, but first I want to
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: give you some more information about Ernie. So, Ernie Halter
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: is a singer songwriter who has been writing songs for
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: more than twenty years and has shared the studio and
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: stage with Jason Moraz, lady A, Neil Young, Justin Bieber,
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: and Katie Perry, just to name a few. That's an
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: impressive list in and of itself. Ernie is an independent
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: music artist who is a regular at Hotel Cafe in
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles, along with various venues nationwide, and he's got
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: an upcoming show in March at the Hotel Cafe in
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for any of you're welcome. Thank you very much
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: for having me. I'm excited to be here.
• 1:43
  Speaker 3: I'm a little nervous, you know, I'm always nervous too,
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: and like I you know, I do not do this professionally,
• 1:50
  Speaker 3: So even though I've been on the podcast for a
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: while now, I still there's a little bit of jitters
• 1:54
  Speaker 3: every time I jump on.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: So well, you're very much the expert and I am
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: the novice. So I'm just I'm here hoping to not
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: embarrass my daughters or my wife because they are super
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: fans and they will die if I say anything that
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: embarrasses them.
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so I was gonna say, I know that
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: you know, you you've only done the one episode and
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: and you know haven't followed the whole show, but you
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: have Gilmore fans in the family that I'm sure will
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: will you know, call you out if you make even
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: the slightest mistake.
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: They will. They will definitely call me out. And I've seen.
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: You know, I've seen episodes here and there. I get
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: the general story arc and then I actually never saw
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: the episode that I was in. Really, I saw the
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: full one. Yeah, or if I did, it was so
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: long ago. But I watched it and uh, yeah, it's
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: a really well made show. And it's uh They're always
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: trying to get me to watch it with them, and
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: I'm usually, you know, busy doing something else, but I do.
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: I said, I sit and watch it with them. I
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: just don't have like enough of the because they've watched
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: it several times now, so see the I see the
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: episodes out of order, and then they'll come over and
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: let me know who's who and what's what. So it's fun.
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So you kind of came to our attention
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: because you had a video that went viral on Instagram
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: a little bit ago about how you you make a
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: whopping forty seven says a year for your appearance. So
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: you were a bell ringer in the scene where there's
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: a bell choir on the steps of the gazebo. Yes,
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: And so I was looking at that post last night
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: and I saw in the comments that you mentioned that
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: was actually that was considered a musical appear like it
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: wasn't an acting gig. It was amazing.
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: So the there's something called music sidelining, and I used
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: to do a lot of it. I don't live in
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: La anymore, but when I live there, I did a
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: ton of it. So this video that I made was
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: one of several in kind of like a series that
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: I was doing about, you know, just getting these like
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: residual checks and it's all good fun. I don't know
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: if it was exactly forty seven cents. Nothing on the
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: internet is real, but I.
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: Think that's more than the actors get from the streaming,
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: so it's better than that.
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a crazy business. So I'm grateful for my
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: you know, fourth of a gallon of gas that I
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: get on every quarter. But yeah, so we I was
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: in a choir. I was in a carolling group and
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: one of the things that we learned to do is
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: play bells. I've never done it before, I'd never done
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: it since. And the one of the people that was
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: in it, her name is Christa and she was my
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: roommate's girlfriend now wife. She worked with the head contractor
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: at I think it was Paramount. Wait, no, no, it
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: was Warner Brothers. Yeah, he was shot on the Warner lot. Yeah,
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: so he would coordinate as a go between to find
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: musicians for certain things. And so if you know Warner
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: or the production company says, okay, we need a band
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: for this scene. They don't hire extras. They don't hire
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: actors because they can't. It's a union thing. So they
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: go through the Musicians Union and they would which I
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: was a member of still am and so they would
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: find musicians. And the irony is, most of the time
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: we're not playing, we're just miming. And because they don't
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: want it to interfere with dialogue, this particular scene we
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: actually were playing. Cool, we had to have it. So
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think I would get a residual. I'm pretty
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: sure you would never get a residual as an extra
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: or background actor unless you had a role or line
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: or something, and even then probably not. But as a musician,
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: because our playing or performance was recorded, I still do
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: get a residual for that.
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: So that's very cool.
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So no diss against background actors or any actors,
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: but it's it's definitely its own thing. It's there, it's
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: a music.
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's very cool. And then you kind of answered
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: my my other question, which was was this a pre
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: existing group that you were in that they brought all
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: of you in or did they just like assemble a
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: bunch of random people and be like, here ring this,
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: pretend you're ringing this.
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: Well right, sometimes it's like you actually knew how to
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: do yeah, and Bill, yeah, I remember, you know, just
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: trying to pick up side gigs and it was the
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: episode was shot. It was shot on a Halloween. I
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: remember that. Oh really Okay, Yeah, there's a lot of
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: the crew and stuff. They were in costumes. It was
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: a weird thing because the set is Christmas y and
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: there's like fake snow on the ground, and it's such
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: a gorgeous backlot. Like it's just amazing.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah to have.
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: Seen it, because you know, so many films were film there.
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: I think To Kill a Mockingbird was filmed there, and
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: Back to the Future like it's a really famous man. Yeah,
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: So I was like, well, it was so cool, Like
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: that is really close to Central Perk Cafe from Friends.
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: It's on the it's near the New York part of
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: the back lot and Warner and it's just neat. Yeah.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw on Social media. But
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: Warner Brothers just had they just finished a three week
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: run of Holidays Made Here where they completely recreated Stars
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: Hollow on the back pod and it was open for
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: tours so the public could come be in Stars Hollow
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: and they even like built out some of the old
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: sets in the building, so like Luke's diner was there.
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: You know, you could go in Laurelized house and Sukie's
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: house and the you know, the theater like it was.
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: It was a completely immersive Stars Hollow experience and it
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: was really amazing. I went on many of the days
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: that it was open and it just was mind blowing,
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: Like you literally felt like you were there.
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: So I was a fan of the show, I'm sure
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: like it's just so feel like you're walking through a
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: dream to see it.
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was crazy and to think like
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: like you think of you know, especially for me as
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: a super fan, you might not have the same experience,
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: but I could think of like my favorite scenes and think, Okay,
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: this was this was where Luke and Laurel I had
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: this conversation and they were standing right there, and you know,
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: this is where Paris ran down the street looking for
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: change for the pay phone like, it was really cool
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: to just be in those exact places for me as
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: a fan.
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: So do you then watch the show differently having seen
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: it in person?
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: I do. I do because I especially because I was
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: there with Scott on a lot of the days and
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: helping like take photos with fans and things like that.
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: And so now I spent so many hours in Luke's
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: diner over the past three weeks that now I watched
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: this episode back and I'm like, oh, I know like
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: every inch of that place now because I spent so
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: many hours standing there, and it's really cool to think,
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: you know, hey, we walked through the gazebo, we walk
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: down that sidewalk, or that's you know, we ate at
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: that place, and so it is kind of it is
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: really surreal to like experience it in real life and
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: then to see it on TV.
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: Is it kind of well? I mean, at least with
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls, the set is more aligned with reality in
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: the sense that there's an outdoor. There's like, because my
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: daughters were asking me this, he said, is this on
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: a like a sound They didn't use the word soundstage,
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: but you know, is this in a sound stage? And
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: then they fake it and they recreate it. It's like no,
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: it's like there actually is a gazebo and there's a courtyard,
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: and there are buildings, and the sets are the buildings.
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: So it's all this one continuous like indoor outdoor saying.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: I've done a lot of work where it's on a
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: sound stage and it looks very realistic when you watch
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: it later, but it's all just you know, TV magic.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: But this is cool because it's like an actual it
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: feels like you're in a little town, you know. It's
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: really cool exactly.
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: And some of the interiors were on sound stages and
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: so those sets are obviously long gone, but a lot
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: of it they did use the actual, you know, the
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: practical sets that were in in the in the back lot.
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just it's really cool that, you know,
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff is still there. So it's
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: it's very cool.
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: I used to I was, I was doing this for
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: a while back in the day, and my brother he
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: would see me on some of these shows in the background,
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: and he said, I was ruining. I was ruining these
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: shows for him because it would break the fourth wall
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: to see his brother. Yeah, you know, like in a
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: band or something in the background told me to stop it.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. I would imagine you just gained that
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: much more of an appreciation for the show, having gotten
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: to know some of the people that are involved in
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: making it.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, it's it is. You know, the show
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: kind of came I did not watch it when it aired,
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: so I first watched it in twenty sixteen, and it
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: kind of came into my life at a point where
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: I just really needed like a mental escape and just
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: to kind of lift myself out of my existence and
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: just be somewhere else for a while. So it like
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: really a lot of people talk about how it's their
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: comfort show, like it just is like warm, like a warm,
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: fuzzy blanket, and it was like that for me too,
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: So I have I'm grateful for that because I needed
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: that in my life at that time and I have
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: that appreciation for it. And so to get to know
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: some of the people that were involved in the actual
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: creation of that, you know, like Scott and some of
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: the other people that I've met through this, it's it's
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: really cool to be able to you know, interact with
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: them as actors and be like, you know, thank you
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: for doing that, because it really makes a difference for
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: so many people, and even now, like there's new generations
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: that come into it, and a lot of the fans
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: that watch it now weren't even on the planet when
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: it originally aired.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: But my daughters are fourteen and they weren't.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly, and it's like something good for them too,
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: So it's really it's turned into quite a phenomenon.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny as like, even though it's different,
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: it's similar. I'm not, you know, as famous as kimmor Girls, obviously,
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: but the best compliment and artists can have is someone
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: coming up to you and saying, this song really got
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: me out of a dark place, or this was my
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: comfort when I really didn't have anything to lean on.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: And I bet that's equally special for the people who've
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: worked on the show to know that their work is
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: meaningful because it's you know, it can be easy to dismiss,
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: Oh well, it's just a show. It's a comfort thing.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: It's not like but it brings people. It lifts people up,
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: and you never know what someone's going through someone who's
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: watching that show and gives something to look forward to
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: and something to distract them maybe from what else is
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: happening in their lives. So I think it's really cool.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially because the show has only gotten more
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: popular as it's gone on. So probably at the time
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: they were making the show, none of them were even thinking, Okay,
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: twenty five years from now, we're still going to be
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: celebrating this and it's going to have any bigger fan base,
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: you know, because at the time when it first when
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: the show first went on the air, I think the
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: first season it was on against Friends, so like, how
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: do you compete against friends? Like obviously they did, they
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: got you know, through that first season, and then the
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: network moved their time slot. But it was it wasn't
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: even at the time it was airing, it wasn't as
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: popular as it is now, and it's you know, one
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: of the most replayed shows on Netflix now, if not
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: the most. And so it's just interesting how it's really
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: just mushroomed from what it was, you know, back in
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: the early two thousands.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: I was really surprised in the video that I made,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: just like any video I guess anyone makes. You just
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: don't really think anything's going to happen. You're just doing
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: silly things too, Yeah, just because you just want to
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: share them. But I was really shocked at how much
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: of a response that got, and it showed me how
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: incredibly popular the show still is and how it's become
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: like what's the word I'm looking for, But it's become
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: part of the zeitgeist. I guess it's become part of
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: the cultural experience, and it's continuing to be that. My
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: daughter is like, you know, they they have just started
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: watching it, and they've already they're already on their second or
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: maybe even third run through of this show. So this
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: is the only set of cool points I've ever gotten.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: I think I've done some pretty cool things. They are
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: very unimpressed. This was the one thing that got them.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: They were like what they started watching the show for
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: the first time, and I was like, oh, I was
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: like in an episode of that. They're like, what, how
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: do we not know this about you? It's like I
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: tell you stuff like this all the time, and you
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: roll your eyes and your care we never heard of
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: that and who cares? Dad? This one? This one got them.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: They were like whoa.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: And they've probably told all their friends too, because all
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: their friends.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Are oh yeah, Like I was like, oh, well, because
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: I don't really think about it. I'm like, oh, that's right. People,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: people really still love this show. And yeah, because there's
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: lots of things I've done that they don't know, they
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: have no relation or relevance to in their life, so
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: it's just kind of, oh wait, whatever, But this one
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: got them. They were really excited. They're still they're still
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: really excited.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: They probably would have been even more excited if Scott
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: had actually been on the call this morning.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's understandable. It's funny, like they're very, uh,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: they can hang. Like if I've ever put them in
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: a situation where they're around people that are well known,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: they are just very you know, just like whatever.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Inside yeah, inside or die, you know.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: But on the outside there they can hang. They're very
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: they're very chill. I mean, when it comes down to it,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: we're all just people trying to, you know, have we
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: all have our ups and downs. We are and so
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I think that's an important lesson for them. So do
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: you always host with Scott?
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I you know, I do not. So this the podcast
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: is on its second go round. So the first time
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: we watched the show, it was a bunch of us
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: in a group and we would all recap together and
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I joined. I can't even remember when it was. It
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: was like season I think we were recapping season four maybe,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: but Danielle Romo, one of the regulars, had gone on
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: maternity leave, and so they brought me in to fill
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: in for her, and then kept me on even when
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: she came back from maternity leave, just to kind of
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: provide that voice of the super fan. And so now
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: in our second run through the show, it's we have
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: like smaller podcasts. So Scott will do a recap, which
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: is what this is, and then I actually work with
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: with one of the other producers on a different pod,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: so we call it town meeting, which is where we
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: kind of pick apart the small details of the show.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: So this is where we'd be like, hey, did you
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: see that? You know the cameraman. You can see him
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: in the reflection in the mirror in this episode, so
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: kind of those little little things like that. And then
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: we have other like pop culture and fashion and music.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: So it's a series of kind of sub podcasts, if
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: you will. So I don't get to recap with Scott
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: as much as as I did when we went through
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: it the first time, but sometimes I will pop in
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: here and there.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: So I did notice one thing when I and I
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: don't normally see these kinds of details, but I watched
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the episode that I was in, and there's a scene
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: where Laurelia's dad, he gets a heart attack and he's
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: in the hospital, and so it's Luke and Lorelei talking
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: in the hallway, and there's one moment where you can
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: see the microphone hanging out, like yep, that's a boom mic.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I never see those kinds of things, like, Okay, that's
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: probably the kind of of stuff that you're looking for
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: a little like details. Yeah, exactly, Oh the clock said
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: one o'clock, but now all of a sudden it says
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: three o'clock. Or you know, she had hearings but she
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't any more.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: And exactly exactly.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: A great continuity person if you're familiar with that.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I've been told I should be, that
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I should be a script supervisor. So maybe you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: in my in my next career. But but yeah, that
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: that's when we've noticed in that episode. Also in that
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: same episode where before they go to the hospital, when
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: they're in the diner and she gets the phone call
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: that her dad's in the hospital, it goes back and forth.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Sometimes her purse is on her arm and sometimes it's
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: on the her. So there's the first season, there were
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of those little a lot of those little
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: moments that that we could catch.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: So and maybe some of the followers of this podcast
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: know this, but for anyone who and I didn't know
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: this before I started working on set, but there's a
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: specific person who then keeps track of all the little details.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's very easy to miss some, So I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: would never fault anyone for this, But you know, if
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the hair is tucked behind the ear or not, or
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: because they'll film multiple takes, sometimes we'll have to go
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: back and go, oh, we didn't get this thing, or
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: we didn't get this angle, and they have to recreate
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: it exactly the way they did on that day, same wardrobe,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: same hair, same lighting, same everything, and if it looks
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: even a little different, down to the clock on the
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: wall or whatever, this salt shaker was over here and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: now it's over here. So sometimes those things like jump
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: around and you'd be really good at cashier's.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I would, because I just I can't help, but I
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: just notice all those little things nice. So I guess
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: at some point, we do have to talk about the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: episode Season three, episode eleven. I solemnly swear I don't
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: think I've read the synopsis yet, so let me We
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: usually do that at the top, let me do that
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: right now. So this is the episode where Emily asks
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Lorelai for a favor in a lawsuit but is displeased
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: with the results. Meanwhile, Suki runs into an old friend
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: from her past, while laurel I meets someone new, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: friendships are put to the test at Chilton when Rory
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: accidentally makes a wrong move. So this episode was directed
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: by Carla McCloskey and written by John Stevens. So we
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: know you haven't seen the whole you know, arc of
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: all of these stories, but what was your what was
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: your first impression of this episode? What did you think
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: of it?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So I actually, as I was watching, and I realized, oh,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I've kind of seen this before. So, like I said,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I see it in bits and pieces. I never seen
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the whole episode, but I saw the fencing scene and
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I know that's like really popular, you remember that, And
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I let's see what were my thoughts on the episode.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I think that Laurelai's mother is basically my mother, my
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: mother had a cube accent. That was pretty much the
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: only difference there. Very similar temperament and dynamic. It is
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: probably why that those characters are so relatable. Let's see,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I do remember seeing the part where is it Suki right,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and Jackson is her husband. He uh, he's cooking. She
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: she cooks some dinner and puts CCR on the radio
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and all his favorite things, and he goes, you cheated
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: on me because I just flirted. I over flirted, and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: so that like it was funny how he just put
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: those pieces together, and she felt guilty and she did
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: all those things you're ruining CCR for me. Those were
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: things I remember. I remember, like the guy who I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: can't remember his name now, of course, but the one
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: who is Sukie's friend who she over flirts with, the
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: friend of right right, and he calls Loralai and asks
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: her on a date. But he says, yeah, I just
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I couldn't like that. I could I couldn't get your numbers.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: So I called the hotel and some French guy gave
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: me your number at home and said not to worry
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: that you usually stay up till three or four in
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the morning. And she says, oh, that's fine. Don't worry
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: about him. He's getting fired tomorrow. So yeah, it's funny,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: it's a cute, it's a really cute show. I mean,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel embarrassed that I don't know
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: anything about Gilmer Girls, and I'm on, you know, I was.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I was calling it the Gilmore Girls in my posts
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and I got I got reprimanded pretty pretty swiftly. It's
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: not the Gilmore Girls. It's guilt. You can drop the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: come on. Yeah, so I'm getting indoctrinated very quickly. But yeah,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: it was. It's interesting, like it moves very quickly. It
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: almost feels like a soap in some ways, not to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: degrade the quality of it, but there's all these vignettes
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and things that are happening at once, and so in
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: that sense, there's probably a word for this. I don't
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called, but how the action
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: is constantly moving from different characters of different scenes and
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: then sort of intertwining. But how just a quick at moves.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's isn't It's funny, it's romantic, it's
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: character driven, and in that sense, it's it's way bigger
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: than a soap. Opera, but it still has that element
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: of drama that a soap might have, and so I
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: could see why that is such a popular.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like this is the show that the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: word dramaedy is made for. Like, yeah, this episode has
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of relationship drama. There's like mother daughter drama,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: there's husband wife drama, there's friendship at school drama. But
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: then like Lorelei shoots out these one liners all the
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: time that are just freaking hilarious, and sometimes you have
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: you don't even get them the first time you have
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: You don't even hear them until like the second or
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: the third time you watch the episode. So so yeah, it's, uh,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the it is kind of soap opera ish in that sense,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: but it's also like just really funny, and you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: there's just like some offbeat moments or like you'll see
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: some some heard something in the background that somebody is
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: doing and it just it makes you laugh.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: So I wonder how much of that was scripted. I'm
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: sure a lot of it is, but you know how
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: much of that is just sort of improvised in the moment.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: So Amy Sherman Palladino was She was the creator and
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the writer and the showrunner. She is infamous for not
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: allowing ad libbing at all. Like it had to be
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: word perfect, even down to things like saying I am
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: instead of i'm. Like, it had to be exactly the wild,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: so there was not a lot of room for you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: improvisation or you know changes on the fly like that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: But honestly, you a lot of the time you can't
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: even tell, like it just feels so natural, the dialogue
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and the interactions. It just that it just speaks to
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: how well written it it is.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: That's the mark of genius is when you don't think
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: about the script, the you don't think about the acting,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: it all sort of disappears and you become absorbed in
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the story. Now, I don't know, this is a sort
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: of general question, but my daughter said that the actors
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: had to do specific training to say the words, to
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: be able to like speak speak faster. Is that true?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: That is true. They had to talk so fast that
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: they had a dialogue coach George Bell on set, and
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: especially working with the guest actors, because the principals got
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: the hang of it, but the guest actors would have
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: trouble like speaking at the right speed, and so he'd
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: be like faster, faster, faster, so he would he would
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: work with everybody to make sure that they could articulate
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the lines, you know, so you could hear what they
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: were saying, but also super fast, right.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And editing is really tight too. It's a certain style
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: where there's there's really no dead space unless there is,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and there is. It's very intentional. Yes, that's something that
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I noticed even before watching these episodes, just how quickly,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: because you know, just for my own artist stuff, I'll
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: make videos where I'm talking or saying something, and it
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: takes a lot of intention to know what you're going
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to say, say what you need to get in, get out,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and then edit it in a way that doesn't leave
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: any dead space at all. And this is years before
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you know, like TikTok or like algorithmic social media where
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: everything every second counts. But it's almost like every episode,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: any any given scene of an episode is cut in
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: the way that every single second counts and matters. Yeah,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I thought that that was a takeaway. But anyways, you
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: were talking about something and I think I cut you off,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and I hope I didn't know.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I think I finished my thoughts. I think I'm good,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: let's see, I'm just looking through. We usually recap the
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: episodes by theme rather than by sequentially going through the scenes,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: so that we had a couple of storylines. One is
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Emily getting sued for wrongful term nation. So since you've
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: seen episodes here and there, you know Emily is very
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: particular about what she wants, and she even goes into
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: it in this episode, like I pay for things to
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: be this way, and I want them to be this way.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: But Laura I ended up hurting Emily. I don't I
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: don't think she meant to. I don't know. Do you
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: think that Lurla I was like deliberately trying to sabotage Emily.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: No, she just said, I'm not going to lie for you. Yeah,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and then her mom says, well just tell it, just
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: tell the you know in the deposition, to say that
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: say some good things about me. She's like, I'm not
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: gonna lie. So I think she was trying to be honest.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think she was going out of her way
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to do her mom any favors. But I don't think
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: she was going out of her way to hurt her either. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: look at me. I'm talking about Gilbert girls and I
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: can do it.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Lorelei and Suki. They go to
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: that that weird seminar with the boring guy right, and
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: then they run into Suki's friend and his friend out
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: in the hallway at the At the beginning of the episode,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: we saw Suki and Jackson fighting about.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: The lentils and.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: The atomic p tendrils or something like that. So who
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: did you like Suki with better? Did you like her
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: with Jackson or did you like her potentially with Joe.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: No, I think, I mean I didn't. I wasn't I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: see her with Jackson. I mean again, I haven't seen
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the whole arc of the show, but like what I
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: have seen of them, they kind of have their moments
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: where they're you know, even in that scene they're arguing
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: about vegetables or whatever, and then he kissed her at
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the end and says, I'll see you tonight. You know,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: it's just part of their dynamic, and I think it's
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: very it's very real, you know, especially when you really
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: love someone, you you can lay into them a little bit.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: And obviously it wasn't really an option for her to
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: be with the other guy. She's already Jackson.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Suki and Jackson is an interesting relationship.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: They feel like they're very well suited for each other,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and they compliment each other in a lot of ways.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: There's some things that I don't know. There's some things
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: about Jackson that aren't so great, and I'm not going
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: to spoil the surprise for you, so you need to
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: go watch the whole show now so you can see.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: But I think overall, Suki and Jackson they're a very
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: cute couple, and I think that they do they do
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: belong together for sure.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Well, seeing that snapshot, that's how it feels to me,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: So hopefully I will see how I feel if I
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: watch more of the episodes, find out about his dark
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: past or something.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it comes later in the series. There's some things,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: but okay, and now the Chiltern Student Council thing, the
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: whole Franny Francy, sorry, and Rory. It is very all.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: The garage scene was just visually right out of All
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: the President's.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Men, right, which I watched as part of my homework.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I've actually not seen that entire movie. I've watched that scene,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: but I haven't I haven't seen the entire movie. But
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: so Francie, you know, she's kind of a problem through
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the whole thing. I mean, she's not the whole thing
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: that she's only in a couple episodes, but she basically
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: stabs Rory in the back because we find out that
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: that whole garage scene was a setup, so get the
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: pictures and then turn around and betray Rory to Paris.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: So what did you.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Think about this rivalry? And I'm curious to know, like
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on Paris because Paris is an interesting character
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: and she can be a little polarizing. People either love
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: her or hate her.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: To me, she seemed like high strung m a type.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: You know, she's complained about the food and the cafeteria,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: but she does it in a way that still feels
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: relatable to me, even though I don't know, Like I
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: would be the guy that is going on about the
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: label size, and you know, my wife would be the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: one to be like, please don't say anything, please don't
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't you know. But I try to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: do it like in a nice way, whereas I feel
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: like Emily is Emily is Lorealiz's mom. Yes, she if
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: she were doing it, she would be doing it in
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: a more aggressive, like less relatable way. In my opinion,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say anything like too black or white,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: because I think the characters are bigger than just small definitions,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to I don't want to anger
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: any Gilmore Girl fans. So yeah, to me, I don't know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: she seemed high strong, but she seemed like she cared.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You know, she said, hey, you're my friend, and I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: confide it in you, and you broke my trust, and
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: she seemed genuinely hurt. And yeah, she's a little high strong,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: but you know, she's a little bit of a lot.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of a lot sometimes, so I relate
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, I don't know, I think she's all right.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: And and that scene that was really a kind of
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: a turning point for Rory and Paris as friends, because
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: from the beginning of season one up to this point,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Paris is she's very she's caustic and abrasive and mean,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: and she and Rory she saw Rory only as competition,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: and so she was constantly trying to take Rory down.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: And then in this episode was where we find out
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: that she thought of Rory as her best friend, and
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Rory even expressed surprise, like I didn't know she thought
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: of me as her best friend, so that it was
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: kind of like where that that little chink in the
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: armor that we haven't seen before. This was this episode
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: is where we start to see that, and then they do.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: They always kind of have like a rivalry, but it
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: becomes more more of a friendly rivalry as the seasons
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: go on, and so this is kind of where that
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: turning point starts. So I like that, and I love Paris.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I probably would not love her if I knew her
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: in real life because she is just really abusive, but
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I just I love the character and I love that
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: she says what she thinks because there's sometimes that I
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: wish I didn't have to be so polite and I
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: could really say.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: That on my mind, you want to channel Paris right.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, because there's a little bit of Paris in
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: there and sometimes I wish I could let her out.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, I love I love that character. But
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's a terrible person, but she's a great kid.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I feel the same way about Emily too. Emily is.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I'm glad that she's not somebody I know in real life.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah, some people are just kind of exhausting in
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: real life. But then there's a part of your respects
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: or like admires their boldness and.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Right exactly, so just like a little bit of it,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: not all of it exactly. So then the closing scenes
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: we kind of touched on one already where Suki makes
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: the nice dinner because she's he feels she feels like
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: she cheated, and so she makes this huge dinner and
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: she puts on you know, credence, and then Jackson immediately like,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: you cheated on me. I thought that was hilarious that
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: he was great to jump right to that conclusion. And
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: then the very final scene is Alex calls Laura, I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: asks her out on the coffee date. So yeah, so
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: that was that was fun. Billy Burke before, you know,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: he really hit it big in the Twilight series, so.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I have not seen Twilight.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he plays the dad in Twilight, but this it
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: was after this, so he was still like he had
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: done some stuff, but he was still, you know, not
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: super well known. So it was fun to see him
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: in that role.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: And side note, the nurse in uh the episode that
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I was in, I didn't realize of course, I can't
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: think her name at this moment. Thank you. Yeah, I
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I know her. I don't know her,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: but you know, I was like, well, that's really cool.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a lot of people that got their
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: start on Gilmore Girls and then went on to do
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: like huge things.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Was that one of her first roles or did
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: she just like the show and wanted to take a
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: small role.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I think it was early on. I don't think she
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: was that famous yet. It was just a bit, you know,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: it was just a just a job for her.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I was like surprised to
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: see that. Yeah.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: So just we're almost out of time, but I do
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: want to ask some more about your experience on the
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: set that day. So you said it was shot on Halloween.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Was it shot that day? Do you because we always
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: talk about how the winter scenes look wintry, but it
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: was probably ninety degrees the day they shot it, because it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Wasn't ninety but it was, you know, I don't really remember.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I don't remember it being overly hot. It was probably cold.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: But it is odd to see a scene that looks
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: like it should be really cold because I'd been through
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I've traveled through every state As a musician songwriter,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I play small venues and I've been to every state
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: and have been in a lot of these quaint little areas,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: and it reminds me of you know, like a town
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: you would see in Connecticut or in Maine or New
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Hampshire or something, and it was it is a juxtaposition
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: to be in that place and have it be you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: it was probably I don't know, it's probably like in
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the seventies or something, but it is weird to see
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: that because it's it's so convincing to your eyes when
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you're there with all the frost on the windows, and
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: they the set people, the team that did all the
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: sets and stuff is really incredible.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: So so your scene, as I recall, it was kind
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: of an isolated scene there. You weren't there were like
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: any other characters or cast members in the scene. Did
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: you get to really interact with the cast members at
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: all or did they I know on some shows they
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: tell the the guests like don't talk to the principles
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: or like them or whatever. Like, did you any memorable
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: interactions with any of the cast members that day?
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Not really. I mean when we did these gigs, it
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: would typically we'd have our own little camp. It's funny
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: how sets work, like there's a lot of hierarchy, and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: it's almost kind of like a cast system, and by cast,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I mean a ste Yeah, there's like a social like
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: pecking order, and so the extras would be in their
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: own little area, and you'd have production assistance kind of
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: in their own class, and then you'd have a crew,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and we would probably be somewhere like on the level
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: of crew. We're not principal actors, but we're not background actors.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: You know, we have different lunches and different you know,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: we might have heat and hours and background actors are
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: all like huddled over like a burning trash can, you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: just trying to like find what they can find. Not
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: really kind of also not really And so for the
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: most part, it's very segregated. So I think if that
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: day was like any other time that I've done this,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: you typically have some sort of holding area. You spend hours,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: just hours and hours and hours doing nothing. You're basically
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: just waiting. You're waiting for your turn, and then every
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: now and then, okay, we need you to go to wardrobe,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: and then you're ready, but then you still wait for
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: another couple of hours, so you eat how anyone can,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: like work on a set and not just I would
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: just gain so much weight working on a set because
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I always like to eat all the things, and there's
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: always like great food and pastries and things craft service
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: and so forth. So as far as the actors know, like,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I really I don't really remember
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: meeting them or hanging out with them and other things
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: that I've done, it's kind of been the same thing.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Like I did. This is not Gilmore Girls related, but
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I did an episode of nine O two and zero
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and Christina Aguilera was with us, so we were her
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: band and we would only interact with her on set,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: but like in between takes, she was very nice and
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: cordial with us. Or I've done other things where there
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: are principal actors in the set with us, or like
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I did a show called Girlfriends which was long past,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: but it was with doesn't matter, but one of the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: principal actors. We were like in her band, and she
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: would you know, invite us to eat with them, you know,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: with the actors. But that was kind of an exception.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: So with Gilmore Girls, I don't remember. I remember kind
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: of like bumping elbows with Oh my gosh, I can't
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: think if the actress's named Alexis.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Alexis Bludell.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I remember like seeing her and I think
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: we just shared a brief moment about pastries or like, oh,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I wonder if that's that? Is that the red one? No,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: that looks good that it still got me some cool
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: points with the girls, so I'll take it. But yeah, everyone,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: everything is kind of like separated, and you don't really
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: interact with unless you're in a scene and there's downtime,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and even then, I think the rule of thumb is
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: you're there to work, not there to you know, because
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: it I don't know, it's it's just sort of an
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: unspoken rule. You want to be you want to a
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: social event. Yeah, yeah, I mean not to say that
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: you can't be social, but like it is a it's
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: a prickly thing. You know. I've been in other situations,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: not on that set, that were where it's literally spoken,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: you are not you are not to make eye contact.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: You know. Some actors can get very no one on
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: this set. Of course, everyone was wonderful as far as
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I know, but there are sets where actors request that
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: no one looks at them. They don't want to be addressed.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: And I can understand their method actors and they don't
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: want to be addressed by their name. Again another side thing,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: but like I did a thing with Jim Carrey was
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: in a film and he was playing Andy Kaufman, and
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: he's such a method actor. It was called Man on
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the Moon, and he's such a method actor that no
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: one on set was to look at him or address him,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: and especially no one was to address him as Jim
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: or Jim Carrey because he was in character from the moment.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: So some of that might be purposeful and having your
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: own space as an actor to get into character and
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: follow the method and so forth. So that is a
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: very long answer to a question, which is, no, we didn't,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: but I'm sure we probably interacted during that scene, and
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone you know, generally, I have great memories
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: and experiences of doing these kinds of things are a
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: lot of fun.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Well, we're pretty much out of time,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: but I wanted to give you an opportunity. Do you
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: have any projects or anything that you want to let
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: the listeners know about.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to. I mean, I'm a songwriter, so
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I've got stuff on Spotify, So if you're listeners, since
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not making much on my residual checks from gilbergirls,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: they want to go in this check out my music
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: and see if it vibes with them. My name is
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Ernie Halter, and they can just search me on Spotify.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I made a little like short link which is bitly
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: like bit dot l y forward slash Ernie Halter Spotify.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: That's another way they can just find my records. But yeah,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I've been doing this for like twenty years and eight
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: nine records later, and I'm still still doing it. Playing
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: at the Hotel Cafe for any of your LA fans
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: on March fourteenth, playing in New York at the Bitter
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: End on March first, and lots of other shows in
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: between those of like the big ones I could think
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: of by heart.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: So yeah, good. And I will say I did go
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: into your Spotify last night and your cover of Black
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Coffee in Bed was Chef's Kiss. I am a huge
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Squeeze fan and so when I saw that, I'm like, oh,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I need to listen to this. It probably is as
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: good as, if not better than, the original. And there's
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: only one other song that I've said that about, so
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: So you've earned my respect because you love Squeeze and
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I love them. Most people if they only know one song,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: they know Tempted and I want to like an acoustic
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: cover of one of their songs, and it's treated me well,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I've got I've gotten to meet Chris Difford through that,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: who is one of the founding members of Squeeze. And yeah,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: it's been really cool. So I appreciate that. Thank you.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so definitely I recommend checking that out. So well.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us today. I really enjoyed
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: the conversation. Again, I'm sorry Scott couldn't be here, but
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't have been able to talk to you anyway.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot of.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Exactly, So thank you for being here, and thank you
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: to the listeners for being here. And remember where you lead.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: We will follow
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I Am all In podcast and email us at Gilmore
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: at iHeartRadio dot com.