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#HURDLEMOMENT: An Expert On Fitness Before, During & After Pregnancy · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: Life is always changing and this is right now, but
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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean forever.
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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily Abadi here, you are listening to another
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Speaker 2: installment of Hurdle Moment from Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast
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Speaker 2: reconnected with everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts
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Speaker 2: and industry CEOs about their highest ties, toughest moments, and
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Speaker 2: everything in between. We all go through hurdles in life,
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Speaker 2: and my goal through these discussions is to empower you
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Speaker 2: to better navigate yours and move with intention so that
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Speaker 2: you can stride towards your own big potential and of
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Speaker 2: course have some fun along the way. For today's episode,
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Speaker 2: I am chatting with Melissa Paris. She's a certified personal
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Speaker 2: trainer who focuses heavily on prenatal and postpartum fitness. In
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Speaker 2: today's episode, we are talking about just that. We are
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Speaker 2: talking about pre natal and post natal fitness. How to
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Speaker 2: navigate this hectic time. Birthing a child is certainly no
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Speaker 2: easy feat, regardless of how someone does it, and taking
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Speaker 2: care of yourself during this entire period is absolutely critical.
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Speaker 2: Melissa talks us through all of the different phases, giving
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Speaker 2: advice and insight into how to best take care of
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Speaker 2: your body in a way that is safe for baby
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Speaker 2: and for mom. Melissa AKAA Missy is also talking to
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Speaker 2: me about the horribleness that is the balance back pressure
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Speaker 2: and how to have a little bit more grace during
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Speaker 2: this beautiful time, plus the one thing she swears every
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Speaker 2: woman should do after giving birth. Now, this is an
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Speaker 2: episode many of you have asked for for some time.
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Speaker 2: I do not have a child, and so that is
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Speaker 2: why I'm calling in my expert, who also happens to
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Speaker 2: be a mother of two. I learned a hell of
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Speaker 2: a lot in this conversation. This is a topic that
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Speaker 2: many of you have been in my dms about for
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Speaker 2: a while, so I hope that you enjoy. Make sure
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Speaker 2: you are following along with Hurdle over on social media.
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Speaker 2: It's at hurdle podcast. I am over at Emily a body.
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Speaker 2: To all of you who submitted questions for the Global
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Speaker 2: Running Day discussion that I'm having today with the lovely
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Speaker 2: Jess Woods, Nike running coach, thank you and if at
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Speaker 2: any point you have another question that you would like
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Speaker 2: me to answer on the show, I am all ears
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Speaker 2: the link to leave me a voice message and ask
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Speaker 2: a question to be featured on an upcoming episode is
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Speaker 2: in the show notes. And with that, let's get into it.
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Speaker 2: Let's get to Hurdling today. I'm sitting down with Melissa
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Speaker 2: Paris is a personal trainer here in New York, pre
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Speaker 2: and post natal certified, as well as many other things.
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Speaker 2: How are we doing today?
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me, Emily. This is amazing.
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Speaker 1: This is just so exciting to look out your window
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Speaker 1: and see where my kids used to rock climb.
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Speaker 2: I know, it's nice. A. I haven't seen you since
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Speaker 2: before the pandemic. Yeah, it's been years, so this is
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Speaker 2: really nice for us to reconnect. And it was a
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Speaker 2: no brainer when you reached out to me because I
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Speaker 2: feel as though I have so many listeners that are
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Speaker 2: asking me to answer a lot of questions surrounding the
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Speaker 2: entire pregnancy process from before conception for those maybe even
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Speaker 2: dealing with IVF and other different aspects of becoming pregnant
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Speaker 2: and then being pregnant and after pregnancy. There's so many questions.
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Speaker 2: So to be able to have you in the studio
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Speaker 2: feels like a it's about time and be really good
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Speaker 2: timing for Hurdle as a whole.
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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really just was so inspired about your content
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Speaker 1: and seeing how you're bringing together people, and that really
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Speaker 1: resonated with me, especially after the pandemic when so many
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Speaker 1: people were just distanced from each other, and just seeing
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Speaker 1: how you're doing that so seamlessly, and then seeing all
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Speaker 1: the women's lives that you touch me and me just
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Speaker 1: like really think about some of the things that I
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Speaker 1: wish I knew when I was, you know, in the
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Speaker 1: newly parts of being married and getting pregnant and just
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Speaker 1: feeling like ignorantly blissed and then going to this wonderful
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Speaker 1: place of starting a family, but also this place of like, oh,
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Speaker 1: looking back, I wish I knew that, or I wish
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Speaker 1: somebody had told me that when I was starting family.
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Speaker 2: So you have an eight and a half year old
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Speaker 2: and a five year old, Yes, that must be fun.
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Speaker 2: It's really fun.
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Speaker 3: It's very fulfilling.
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Speaker 2: It's very fulfilling. And you were working in health and
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Speaker 2: wellness long before, yeah, you had your kids. So give
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Speaker 2: the hurdlers a little bit of insight into your journey
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Speaker 2: within this profession.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I will try to make this short, but I
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Speaker 1: started act. I actually started off as a nutrition major
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Speaker 1: in college and quickly realized that I didn't want to
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Speaker 1: work in a hospital or fulfill being like a dietitian.
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Speaker 1: So I went to pharmaceutical sales and that's actually where
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Speaker 1: my husband and I started to go to business school
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Speaker 1: and then but I always on the side, My side
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Speaker 1: hustle was personal training throughout college, like I never really stopped.
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Speaker 1: And then my mom had passed and I was like
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Speaker 1: looking for searching for meaning within like my career of
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Speaker 1: like where am I going?
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Speaker 3: What am I doing?
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Speaker 1: So I actually my husband's like, just throw on the
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Speaker 1: towel and go back to personal training. So that's what
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Speaker 1: I did. I started training people on the Upper or
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Speaker 1: West Side, which is now Equinox, but it used to
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Speaker 1: be Rebock and I worked there for a few years
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Speaker 1: and I started seeing people in their homes and that
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Speaker 1: sort of evolved also into me really being interested in
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Speaker 1: prepostnatal and how to train pregnant clients people looking to
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Speaker 1: become pregnant, and then also just that postpart and piece.
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Speaker 3: And then when I got pregnant with my own.
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Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to be able to train through
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Speaker 1: both of my pregnancies very seamlessly. But after I had
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Speaker 1: my first son, I was very much like what very,
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Speaker 1: very very blown away by the fact that, like at
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Speaker 1: that first part of checkup, you can just go back
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Speaker 1: to be going working out. That's what like most doctors
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Speaker 1: will say, like, oh, you're cleared to go work out.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, do you know what I was actually
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Speaker 1: doing before? So that's where I became really interested and
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Speaker 1: dove into a lot of research. So I've been doing
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Speaker 1: a lot of things group fitness, you know, creating my
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Speaker 1: own app, doing workshops, doing kettlebells, and it sort of
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Speaker 1: all came together when I had children.
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Speaker 3: Of like where do I really want to focus on?
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Speaker 2: Super interesting that you were interested in pre and postnatal
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Speaker 2: programming long before you yourself became pregnant. Where did that
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Speaker 2: interest come from?
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Speaker 1: I think I was always interested in women's health from
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Speaker 1: the perspective that my mom struggled with cancer for a
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Speaker 1: majority of my life. So I was just really always
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Speaker 1: curious around women's health and then how to take care
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Speaker 1: of yourself, like mentally, spiritually all the things. Looking at
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Speaker 1: my mom sort of devote her life to us and
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Speaker 1: not really do anything for herself, and wondering sort of
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Speaker 1: where it broke down for her.
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Speaker 2: You know, hearing that you have this personal connection to
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Speaker 2: your why you know why this is so important to
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Speaker 2: you that makes it something that feels more fulfilling for you.
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Speaker 1: Yes, right, oh, yeah, no, I know that there's like
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Speaker 1: something in me that that's part of my purpose. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's not even like an if or why
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Speaker 1: or when. It's sort of like how am I always
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Speaker 1: portraying that message maybe in different capacities.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, as you started to get into this sect
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Speaker 2: of personal training, were there individuals that you were looking
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Speaker 2: to for inspiration, motivation or did you feel like there
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Speaker 2: was a gap in the industry for the information that
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Speaker 2: you were seeking to do your job in the best
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Speaker 2: way you knew how?
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Speaker 1: You know, you just somehow knew what to ask. It's
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Speaker 1: an underserved population. There's so many more resources now. But
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Speaker 1: sometimes I think to myself, I know what the resources
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Speaker 1: are because I'm looking for them, right, Like my entire
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Speaker 1: social media feed is just research, Like I look at
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Speaker 1: people who I look to for information. So yeah, I
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Speaker 1: became really interested in it because I felt like I
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Speaker 1: didn't know where to go. So I started to just
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Speaker 1: put that energy out there and the energy came back
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Speaker 1: and I had a few resources and books and things
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Speaker 1: and things have even evolved so much from when I
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Speaker 1: eight years ago when I had my I guess would
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Speaker 1: be like eight and a half nine years ago now
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Speaker 1: since I've had my first child and to my second,
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Speaker 1: so I definitely feel like it's getting better, but it's
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Speaker 1: such an underserved population of people looking for guidance.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And also thank you for sharing before about
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Speaker 2: your mother. I think that it's super interesting to be
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Speaker 2: someone who is capable of identifying a hole in the
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Speaker 2: market and then it says something about you that your
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Speaker 2: goal then is to fill it. It's to ask yourself, Okay,
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Speaker 2: how can I serve others so that they don't feel
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Speaker 2: how I felt? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: And I think that it like kind of makes me
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Speaker 1: emotional because I feel like I would never want someone
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Speaker 1: to feel lost.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And that's I mean, that's really beautiful, really
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Speaker 2: admirable and also a driving force for so many in
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Speaker 2: whatever feel that they pursue. Right, It's like I want
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Speaker 2: to help someone feel less alone in whatever it is
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Speaker 2: that their journey looks like knowing how it felt at
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Speaker 2: one point to feel a little bit lost yourself totally. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I love what you said before when you were
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Speaker 2: cleared to start training after your first and you asked, well,
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Speaker 2: don't you know what I was doing before? Because what
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Speaker 2: you were doing, as you mentioned briefly, you said, kettlebells,
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Speaker 2: just a different level of training. That wasn't just you know,
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Speaker 2: can I go outside for a walk. It was like, okay,
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Speaker 2: but specifically, are there things that I need to look
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Speaker 2: out for? Are there things that I need to take
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Speaker 2: into consideration if I'm going to be moving my body
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Speaker 2: in this different way?
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Speaker 1: Totally, and I'm really grateful that I actually had some
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Speaker 1: knowledge of like a different way to get in quote
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Speaker 1: unquote cardio or conditioning, because actually, Emily, it's funny I'm
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Speaker 1: sitting here and talking to you because you're a runner.
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Speaker 1: I was running through my first trimester and I just
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Speaker 1: like didn't feel good, Like I constantly.
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Speaker 3: Feel like I had to pee. Yeah, and I was like,
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Speaker 3: oh no, what else am I going to do? I
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Speaker 3: need to run. It made me feel good.
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Speaker 1: For me at that point in my life, running was
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Speaker 1: moving meditation. I was running through the first trimester and
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Speaker 1: then I was like, ooh, this just doesn't feel great.
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Speaker 1: So then I started to do different, you know, just
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Speaker 1: different types of ways to get my heart rate up
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Speaker 1: and move around and really research too, like what it
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Speaker 1: meant to get your heart rate up while you're pregnant
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Speaker 1: and all those things, because a lot of that stuff
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Speaker 1: is outdated.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's break this up into pre during after. So
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Speaker 2: let's start with a woman that's trying to conceive. If
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Speaker 2: it's a highlight like two to three things that she
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Speaker 2: should be taking into consideration, what are they?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would say, you know, I wish someone
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Speaker 1: tua told me this to have some sort of meditation
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Speaker 1: practice or way that you can channel your stress, because
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Speaker 1: that has a significant impact on your health. And I
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Speaker 1: think some sort of weight training regimen obviously, as long
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Speaker 1: as you're cleared by the doctor, would be able to
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Speaker 1: do those weights because that sets the stable foundation to
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Speaker 1: be able to even carry a baby, you know, through
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Speaker 1: the pregnancy and then have a easier recovery and just
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Speaker 1: a support system. Yeah, you know, a support system. My
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Speaker 1: husband's amazing, But I don't think I even realized well afterwards,
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Speaker 1: I was like, it needs more direction, you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you mentioned the strength training being critical
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Speaker 2: so that you could have the support to carry your baby,
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Speaker 2: and that's for a multitude of reasons. Right, we're talking
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Speaker 2: bone density, We're talking core strength. Yes, all of that's
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Speaker 2: so critical that being able to support not only like
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Speaker 2: life inside of you, but then also like your body
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Speaker 2: to support the physical weight of taking on this child. Right.
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Speaker 1: And I and I also'd wesh I was going to
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Speaker 1: add like another like a fourth thing to that. I
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Speaker 1: wish someone also said to me, miss, you're not fragile, right,
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Speaker 1: because I think that what the big misconception is is like,
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Speaker 1: you're pregnant.
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Speaker 3: Now what do I do?
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Speaker 2: What do I do now?
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Speaker 3: And it's like, you're not fragile.
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Speaker 1: Actually, you have superpowers because you're moving around this you
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Speaker 1: know space also making a human. So to understand, like
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Speaker 1: what continue doing what you're doing as long as it
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Speaker 1: feels good. And that's sort of where that mental, spiritual
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Speaker 1: and that impact comes of where to channel and energy
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Speaker 1: of just like not the unknown the unknown once you're pregnant,
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Speaker 1: understanding that you know again you're not fragile, you can
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Speaker 1: continue training, continue to do what you're doing is long as
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Speaker 1: like you know, the doctor says that's okay, and you
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Speaker 1: know you always have to say that, Yeah, your training,
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Speaker 1: whatever it is that it looks for for you, helps
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Speaker 1: with the recovery.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, two things to double click on the first thing
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Speaker 2: is for those that are on their own journey, maybe
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Speaker 2: struggling to conceive, I feel like you just said, like
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Speaker 2: you're not fragile, But those women specifically, at least in
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Speaker 2: the conversations that I've had with my friends who have
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Speaker 2: gone through challenges like that, really do get into this
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Speaker 2: place where they feel as though like they don't want
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Speaker 2: to mess anything up totally. And that's understandable, but then
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Speaker 2: how do they move how do they take care of them?
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Speaker 1: And that way, the biggest thing I've seen in this
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Speaker 1: population of women when I'm training them.
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Speaker 3: Is we take it day by day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, But the mental piece of this is really
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Speaker 1: important to find something that resonates with you, you know.
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Speaker 1: I think for me, I thought, you know, years ago
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Speaker 1: when I was starting meditation, used to listen to a
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Speaker 1: lot of like Oprah DEEPOK stuff and it just really
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Speaker 1: helped me, whether it was like positive affirmations or whatever.
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Speaker 1: So I think that finding something that helps you with
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Speaker 1: that stress of like is this going to happen? I
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Speaker 1: feel fragile. I don't feel empowered at all, Like you know,
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Speaker 1: month after month, you know, measuring things, And I think
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Speaker 1: it's that to me is almost more important than some
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Speaker 1: of the physical movement is understanding that underlying stressors are
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Speaker 1: not going.
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Speaker 3: To help with the overall conception.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then something else that you mentioned before was
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Speaker 2: like continuing to do what you were doing. So I
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Speaker 2: know that oftentimes we have questions about what if I
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Speaker 2: wanted to like start running, or I'm pregnant or start
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Speaker 2: You mentioned like it's really great for you to add
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Speaker 2: in strength training, but what about for the person that
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Speaker 2: wasn't strength training before? How can they safely add in
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Speaker 2: different types of movement movement during this chapter?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so these this type of people, you can always
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Speaker 1: do body weight, right, You're going to be doing You're
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Speaker 1: gonna be pushing yourself up out of bed anyway, You're
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Speaker 1: going to be squatting out of a chair. You're going
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Speaker 1: to be lunging to get up off the floor. Like
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Speaker 1: my favorite thing to do with people is Turkish gut ups.
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Speaker 1: You need to learn how to get up and off
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Speaker 1: the floor with your own body weight. It doesn't have
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Speaker 1: to be complicated. And I I think that's where, in general,
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Speaker 1: the fitness world becomes very confusing because you think it
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Speaker 1: has to be this big groundbreaking thing and it really doesn't.
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Speaker 1: And if you haven't done strength training before, just understand
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Speaker 1: that you actually do it every single day because you're
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Speaker 1: moving your body, right, So how do we make it
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Speaker 1: a little bit more progressive so that it's not stressful?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, So we've talked about the importance of mindfulness, meditation, breathwork,
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Speaker 2: whatever your poison is, movement, and then also having some
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Speaker 2: sort of a support system. And this is critical not
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Speaker 2: obviously not only in the pre pregnancy conception phase, but
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Speaker 2: then also of course as you move on through the
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Speaker 2: nine plus months and then afterward as you move forward.
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Speaker 2: So let's talk now about the pregnancy aspects specifically, Where
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Speaker 2: does one even begin? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so's it's such a wide and I see how
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Speaker 1: this could get very confusing for people because it really
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Speaker 1: just depends on This is why things like measuring your
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Speaker 1: heart rate are not accurate. If you're a professional athlete,
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Speaker 1: you're obviously used to having your heart rate in a
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Speaker 1: certain place while you're training, right, So that's not going
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Speaker 1: to be unsafe for you if your body's used to it, right,
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Speaker 1: And then the biggest thing is paying attention to your body.
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Speaker 1: So it's like, if you feel any sense of nausea
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Speaker 1: or dizziness. Your body's telling me to slow down, right,
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Speaker 1: So it really just depends on the person and where
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Speaker 1: you where you came in at, right. So if you
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Speaker 1: came in at an elite runner, you probably can maintain
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Speaker 1: some level of running right. My second my second pregnancy,
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Speaker 1: I was lifting really heavy and swinging kettlebells.
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Speaker 3: Guess what.
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Speaker 1: I was doing that right up until almost the last day.
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Speaker 1: And I only say that because I felt extremely empowered.
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Speaker 1: I felt good the whole time. I was lifting two
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Speaker 1: forty coun kettles at the same time above my head.
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Speaker 1: I was still doing pull ups. I felt good. So
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Speaker 1: it really just depends. You know, if you're somebody who's
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Speaker 1: experiencing immense amounts of nausea, that may not feel so
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Speaker 1: great if you're lifting the heavy things above your head, right,
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Speaker 1: So it does depend And the way that you can
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Speaker 1: sort of base it for yourself is just tuning in
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Speaker 1: right and not powering through, because it's not the time
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Speaker 1: to power through. It's time to tune into your body
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Speaker 1: and be like, okay, like take your rest, recover, hydrate,
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Speaker 1: do all the.
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Speaker 3: Things right, really take care of yourself, really take care
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Speaker 3: of yourself.
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Speaker 2: What I'm hearing you say here too is the importance
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Speaker 2: of being honest, and you know you said that term
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Speaker 2: pushing through, and it is so understandable that someone's like,
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Speaker 2: this is my time for me, this is what I
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Speaker 2: want to do right now. But it is so so
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Speaker 2: important that we do that, that we listen, that we're
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Speaker 2: honest right especially during this time as you're in a
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Speaker 2: very different place than you were previously.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the last thing I wanted to do when
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Speaker 1: I was pregnant the first time with my first child,
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Speaker 1: running on a treadmill, The last thing I wanted to
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Speaker 1: do was stop because I think I also have this
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Speaker 1: sphere of like I'll never be able to start again,
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Speaker 1: and or what if I can't lose all the weight,
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Speaker 1: which is a horrible mindset number one, And also like
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Speaker 1: something that irks me in like the social media world
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Speaker 1: of bouncing back.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a whole other.
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Speaker 1: Conversation, but it's it's so I think I also just
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Speaker 1: the idea of stepping off the treadmill and cutting back
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Speaker 1: was really difficult for me nine years ago. And now
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Speaker 1: I really understand that concept of like ebbing and flowing
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Speaker 1: and waving the load and sort of like meeting your
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Speaker 1: body where it's at in that moment, because this is
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Speaker 1: just literally a moment in time.
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Speaker 2: And when you say waving the load, what does that mean?
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Speaker 1: So the way that I train normally is like, I'm
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Speaker 1: not going one hundred and ten percent every single day
18:39
Speaker 1: even you know now right It's like one day you're
18:42
Speaker 1: fifty percent, the next day you're at seventy percent, and
18:45
Speaker 1: then you maybe you're at ninety five percent and save
18:47
Speaker 1: that one hundred percent for the actual training day.
18:49
Speaker 2: And why is that important?
18:51
Speaker 1: So that you can sustain your training throughout whatever it is,
18:54
Speaker 1: your pregnancy, your marathon training, your you know, weightlifting competition.
18:58
Speaker 1: Like real athletes, whether you're pregnant or not, don't work
19:03
Speaker 1: at one hundred and percent every day. We don't take
19:06
Speaker 1: those walks. I mean, I'm just assuming that. I mean,
19:08
Speaker 1: I live in New York City. We don't take those
19:10
Speaker 1: walks in nature like we need to or you know,
19:13
Speaker 1: I get a good amount of sleep, but a lot
19:14
Speaker 1: of people don't.
19:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's sleep is.
19:17
Speaker 2: A skill, Isn't it funny?
19:21
Speaker 3: Though?
19:21
Speaker 2: I mean, because I feel like, at least more recently,
19:24
Speaker 2: that is becoming something that is more widely understood it
19:27
Speaker 2: is that we're looking for quality sleep instead of just
19:30
Speaker 2: quantity sleep. And especially when we're going at one thousand
19:33
Speaker 2: miles an hour and there's so much to do, It's like,
19:35
Speaker 2: how can you control the controllables adopt your situation so
19:40
Speaker 2: that you're enabling yourself to serve yourself in the best
19:43
Speaker 2: way possible.
19:44
Speaker 3: Totally.
19:45
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about this for a second,
19:48
Speaker 1: this weekend was gorgeous. Yeah, I have my kids in
19:51
Speaker 1: a pretty strike red time, but I let my older
19:54
Speaker 1: son stay out until nine o'clock three nights in a row.
19:58
Speaker 3: Yesterday.
19:58
Speaker 1: He was emotional, and I'm like, of course he's emotional.
20:03
Speaker 1: I let him stay up three nights in a row late.
20:05
Speaker 1: So what do you think that what could possibly mean
20:07
Speaker 1: for somebody who's sleep deprived, trying to conceive right that,
20:11
Speaker 1: or pregnant, right Like, we really.
20:14
Speaker 3: Need to take care of our bodies.
20:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sleep for some people is not They have
20:18
Speaker 1: a hard time falling sleep and or staying asleep.
20:21
Speaker 3: But if you're somebody who is a good.
20:23
Speaker 2: Sleeper, sleep, yeah, you're hinting also at the opportunity costs
20:28
Speaker 2: that comes hand in hand with bringing new life into
20:32
Speaker 2: the world, right, because there are going to be certain
20:35
Speaker 2: things that you may do, certain sacrifices that you make
20:37
Speaker 2: so that you can feel the best you can within
20:40
Speaker 2: your body. And that is also something that's relevant both
20:44
Speaker 2: to someone caring and to me sitting here not at
20:47
Speaker 2: all pregnant totally.
20:48
Speaker 1: And there were moments when I was pregnant I can
20:50
Speaker 1: remember specifically with both of them. With my first one,
20:53
Speaker 1: I just remember being in my second tri Master and
20:56
Speaker 1: being like, oh my gosh, something he moved me in.
20:58
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm fatigued today, and I never cancel anything.
21:02
Speaker 1: It's like something super type a OCD in my mind.
21:05
Speaker 1: And I canceled a client. I was like, I'm sorry,
21:08
Speaker 1: I'm like exhausted, I'm gonna go home and rest. And
21:10
Speaker 1: I went home and I lied to my bed and
21:11
Speaker 1: I just started feeling my baby kick, and I was like,
21:14
Speaker 1: oh my god. Like I listened to myself and I'm
21:16
Speaker 1: feeling all the things, you know, the kicking, the I rested,
21:20
Speaker 1: But it was just like something I remember it. I
21:23
Speaker 1: remember listening to myself because maybe for me that was
21:25
Speaker 1: super foreign, you know, until I had a child, you know,
21:28
Speaker 1: which is ironic considering the industry that I'm in, right,
21:31
Speaker 1: Like just being like, Okay, Missy, it's time to give
21:34
Speaker 1: yourself what you need, considering you give it to other
21:36
Speaker 1: people all the time.
21:37
Speaker 2: And a lesson that you've been able to take with
21:40
Speaker 2: you now understanding that that level of intuition maybe you
21:44
Speaker 2: didn't have before that happened for you, so that now
21:48
Speaker 2: not carying, you can totally listen to your body and
21:51
Speaker 2: know a little bit more about what it is that
21:54
Speaker 2: Missy needs to show up for you.
21:56
Speaker 1: Exactly one hundred percent. And that's what I want to
21:58
Speaker 1: want to teach my kids. Yeah, like I would want
22:00
Speaker 1: them to tell me that they don't feel a certain
22:03
Speaker 1: way and it's time to rest.
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Speaker 2: today for those also during the height of pregnancy. I'm
23:30
Speaker 2: sure there are so many questions that you get about
23:33
Speaker 2: what's right, what's wrong, et cetera. Is there a certain uh,
23:38
Speaker 2: you said that you were singing, you said that you're
23:40
Speaker 2: swinging kettlebells until literally like right before you had your
23:44
Speaker 2: second that's a case by case basis.
23:46
Speaker 3: Thing, correct one hundred percent.
23:49
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's a frequent question that you get about
23:51
Speaker 2: how long can I train for or you know, in
23:54
Speaker 2: whatever capacity that person has.
23:56
Speaker 1: Correct and I was really comfortable doing that app. But
24:00
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean, right, like we can send a lot
24:02
Speaker 1: of mixed messages here, that doesn't mean that I was
24:06
Speaker 1: swinging what I was used to swinging, or even as
24:10
Speaker 1: fast or as for many reps. Right, there's a lot
24:13
Speaker 1: of different things to take into consideration here, right, Like, oh,
24:16
Speaker 1: if I'm used to swinging a thirty two kg, maybe
24:19
Speaker 1: I was swinging in eighteen that's a big that's a
24:21
Speaker 1: big difference, right, Just moving moving my body and that
24:25
Speaker 1: third trimester felt really good and understanding that and not
24:30
Speaker 1: being tied to ego of like I have to do this.
24:33
Speaker 2: Thing in the days of digital training apps, I'm just
24:39
Speaker 2: gonna open the Peloton app and find workouts that are
24:43
Speaker 2: made for someone who is pregnant. There are so many
24:47
Speaker 2: things that we are trying to outsource on our own.
24:50
Speaker 2: What would you recommend to someone who is in those
24:55
Speaker 2: later phases of pregnancy when it comes to taking care
24:59
Speaker 2: of their body.
25:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's breath work, right, because that's going
25:03
Speaker 1: to really help you be present in your body. And
25:08
Speaker 1: I think that it's keep doing what you're doing as
25:11
Speaker 1: long as you can give what you're doing, as long
25:13
Speaker 1: as that feels good.
25:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And so I think the thing that can
25:17
Speaker 2: be challenging for some is like you want personalized guidance,
25:20
Speaker 2: but obviously personalized guidance can be extremely expensive. So where
25:24
Speaker 2: is someone to go in that situation?
25:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the best thing to do is, you know,
25:30
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of very good pregnancy.
25:34
Speaker 3: Apps out there because you know it's.
25:38
Speaker 1: Such an individual basis of where people are at. But
25:42
Speaker 1: I would stay stick to basic movements lunging, squatting, picking
25:48
Speaker 1: things up, pressing and pushing yourself up off the floor,
25:52
Speaker 1: getting up off the floor and doing that two three
25:56
Speaker 1: days a week, twenty minutes to an hour. Yeah, right,
25:59
Speaker 1: sticking to that program when it feels good.
26:02
Speaker 2: Core work yes, controversial.
26:04
Speaker 1: Yes, and you could do you could do. So this
26:07
Speaker 1: is something I wish everybody knew. Breathing is core work. Right,
26:11
Speaker 1: The diaphragm and the pelvic floor connected. So if you're
26:13
Speaker 1: getting a full relaxation contraction of your breath, you're working
26:17
Speaker 1: your core. You're pop sitting up straight, you're working your core.
26:20
Speaker 1: So that's why I love non traditional core work for
26:24
Speaker 1: my pregnant people, because I would I don't even now
26:26
Speaker 1: have people doing not that these are bad sit ups
26:29
Speaker 1: and things like that. Definitely not pregnant, but even postpartum.
26:31
Speaker 1: Now the research says that it's like, don't avoid movements, right, Like, again,
26:37
Speaker 1: we're not fragile, right, You're not going to create maybe
26:39
Speaker 1: worse diathesis from doing one sit up. I think it's
26:42
Speaker 1: more what you're doing on a daily basis. You have
26:44
Speaker 1: bad posture that's not even good for your digestion, let
26:47
Speaker 1: alone like your your core.
26:49
Speaker 3: So this is why I love.
26:51
Speaker 1: Non traditional core work like farmer carries, racked carries, squats.
26:56
Speaker 1: It's all core work when you're breathing and lifting properly, all.
27:00
Speaker 2: Work when you're breathing and lifting broadly. Okay, now we've
27:03
Speaker 2: had the baby. The baby is here. Yes, I know
27:07
Speaker 2: that depending on how your delivery was, if you had
27:10
Speaker 2: a sea section, if you had a vaginal birth, however
27:14
Speaker 2: you brought life into the world, was going to change
27:17
Speaker 2: when you may be able to get back into a
27:21
Speaker 2: regular movement practice. First and foremost, what are the things
27:25
Speaker 2: that mom can do to take care of herself after delivery.
27:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, so interesting fact about me. My first was a
27:33
Speaker 1: C section, my second was a vaginal So I have
27:35
Speaker 1: an interesting perspective on postpartum health because I had both experiences,
27:41
Speaker 1: but I still and I had much more knowledge after
27:43
Speaker 1: my sacoe one because again I went down this rabbit
27:45
Speaker 1: hole of like, Okay, what can we do for postpartum women,
27:48
Speaker 1: for sea section, vaginal A couple of things you can do.
27:52
Speaker 1: I'm always going to go back to your breath work.
27:54
Speaker 1: That's something you can do immediately postpartum. Right, it's free,
27:57
Speaker 1: we need it anyway. You can do it in the shower,
28:00
Speaker 1: you can do it lying in the bed, just like
28:02
Speaker 1: getting into that parasympathetic state of like out of fight
28:04
Speaker 1: or flight, right, because white after a baby, we're like
28:07
Speaker 1: adrenaline mode kicks in where we're like, okay, do do
28:09
Speaker 1: do more and more and more. I have to take
28:10
Speaker 1: care of this thing. Breath work, reaching out to your
28:14
Speaker 1: support system. And then after being cleared from that sixty
28:17
Speaker 1: sive and week postpartum checkop is when I have women
28:20
Speaker 1: doing I do like a light version of what is
28:22
Speaker 1: called dynamic neuro muscular stabilization.
28:25
Speaker 3: So it's how babies actually.
28:28
Speaker 1: Learn to walk, which going from being on the ground
28:30
Speaker 1: doing nothing to walking, and it starts with crawling and
28:34
Speaker 1: rolling and doing.
28:34
Speaker 3: All those types of things.
28:35
Speaker 1: So for like a postpartu mom, that process happens a
28:39
Speaker 1: lot faster. For some children they walk at ten months,
28:41
Speaker 1: some walk at sixteen months, so it takes them obviously
28:43
Speaker 1: a lot longer that period of learning how to.
28:45
Speaker 3: Do these things.
28:46
Speaker 1: But the concept behind this is that you strengthen your midline, right,
28:50
Speaker 1: like you strengthen your core. Baby strengthen your core by rolling, rolling,
28:53
Speaker 1: over standing, up all different variations of crawling.
28:56
Speaker 3: It's good for your brain. And that's what I do with.
29:00
Speaker 1: My mom's postpartum okay, and like a variation of all
29:03
Speaker 1: those movements to strengthen the midline.
29:05
Speaker 2: Okay, So really important to start slow, yes, it's exactly.
29:10
Speaker 3: You don't even have to remember what I just said.
29:13
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah.
29:14
Speaker 1: Dynamic nor muscular stabilization, but it's it's starting slow, right
29:19
Speaker 1: and understanding that even if you had a c section,
29:22
Speaker 1: your pelvic floor needs still need some attention, right because
29:25
Speaker 1: the baby was sitting on your palvic floor that whole time,
29:28
Speaker 1: and regardless of how the baby came out, your abs
29:32
Speaker 1: are still stretched and weak.
29:33
Speaker 3: It's just it just is what it is. Everybody's ab stretch.
29:37
Speaker 1: So we need to really be mindful of not just
29:39
Speaker 1: focusing on the core, not just focusing on the pelvic floor.
29:42
Speaker 1: That's why I said the body is very smart. If
29:46
Speaker 1: you just focus on breath those first couple of weeks
29:48
Speaker 1: and how you're sitting in your posture, you're doing your
29:51
Speaker 1: body such a service. It's healing itself right. And then
29:55
Speaker 1: that post part and part when you can start adding
29:57
Speaker 1: in some resistance work slowly. You need just enough resistance
30:01
Speaker 1: so the body wants to heal. It's just like strength training.
30:05
Speaker 1: Just enough, you know, you wave the load, just enough
30:08
Speaker 1: resistance so that it wants to heal, but not too
30:11
Speaker 1: much where it's like going to go backwards and get injured.
30:14
Speaker 2: You mentioned the annoyance of the concept of the bounce back, yes,
30:21
Speaker 2: or those that have just given birth and they feel
30:26
Speaker 2: so stressed out about the bounce back, What do you
30:30
Speaker 2: tell them?
30:31
Speaker 1: We only see on people's social media, what is like
30:35
Speaker 1: the highlight aerial. We're all where we're actually supposed to be, right.
30:40
Speaker 1: I think it's just a bad message to send to
30:44
Speaker 1: people that we look like we have our body back,
30:49
Speaker 1: you know, in a couple of weeks postpartum. It So
30:51
Speaker 1: I say, mute, unfollow, do what you need to do
30:53
Speaker 1: for your mental health in that period of time, and
30:55
Speaker 1: don't feel bad about it.
30:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, and understanding also to put it in perspective of
31:00
Speaker 2: that this is equal, if not so much worse than
31:04
Speaker 2: navigatting so many of the let's say, injuries that some
31:07
Speaker 2: people go to. Not to compare here one verse the other,
31:11
Speaker 2: but know that you just did a very big thing, huge.
31:14
Speaker 1: Huge, huge, and there's not a lot of attention around
31:17
Speaker 1: it postpartum. There's just note. I think one of my
31:19
Speaker 1: big life goals would to be like, why isn't there
31:21
Speaker 1: a pelvic floor therapist in that seven week postpartum checkup?
31:25
Speaker 2: You know?
31:25
Speaker 1: I remember going to my seven week postpartum check up
31:28
Speaker 1: with my second and I'd mentioned he was a vaginal
31:31
Speaker 1: I tore a little bit, nothing to be scared of,
31:34
Speaker 1: you know. I was super super cathartic for me like
31:37
Speaker 1: birthing him. And I remember thinking to myself, I don't
31:41
Speaker 1: want to work out, but I do want to know
31:44
Speaker 1: like what I need to do to make myself feel
31:47
Speaker 1: stronger again right now in this moment, And I asked
31:50
Speaker 1: the doctor, I'm like, oh, do you think I should
31:51
Speaker 1: see a pelvic floor therapist? She's like, know why, And
31:55
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wait, I was like, you know what,
31:57
Speaker 1: I think I just need to. I need to like,
31:59
Speaker 1: this is my own path. I need to do this
32:01
Speaker 1: on my own. And I think it's really important for women.
32:05
Speaker 1: Everyone should have a check up and it should be
32:06
Speaker 1: covered on our insurance. And that's that's what it should be.
32:10
Speaker 3: It should be. It should be something and is easily
32:12
Speaker 3: accessible to women for those.
32:13
Speaker 2: That may not fully understand why seeing a pelvic floor
32:18
Speaker 2: a specialist could be useful to them, Can you just
32:20
Speaker 2: explain it?
32:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the public floor is you know, intricate muscle
32:24
Speaker 1: group and it has to accommodate space for a baby.
32:27
Speaker 1: And even if, like I said, even if the baby
32:30
Speaker 1: is a C section, your baby still sat on your
32:33
Speaker 1: public floor adding pressure to your pelvis for that you know,
32:37
Speaker 1: nine months period of time. So I think it's really
32:40
Speaker 1: important just understand the anatomy of yourself and what's going
32:47
Speaker 1: on so that you can strengthen it, because that is
32:49
Speaker 1: your foundation. Right Like we may see in social media,
32:52
Speaker 1: oh you know, the peeing and the jumping up and
32:54
Speaker 1: down like that doesn't have to be a thing, right,
32:57
Speaker 1: Like we may hear it and it may be something
33:01
Speaker 1: we hear a lot, but doesn't have to be normal.
33:03
Speaker 2: And that's like something we hear often when it comes
33:05
Speaker 2: to individuals to start to experience some sort of chronic pain,
33:08
Speaker 2: regardless of where it may be. We get to a point,
33:11
Speaker 2: I know, you know, I'm turning thirty five this week,
33:14
Speaker 2: and it's like, Okay, the older I get, like, the
33:16
Speaker 2: more that pain is just going to be a part
33:18
Speaker 2: of my regular occurrence and it doesn't.
33:20
Speaker 3: Doesn't have you then, no, it doesn't. So I always
33:23
Speaker 3: see this to my kids. I'm like, it doesn't have
33:25
Speaker 3: to be hard. Yeah, like it really doesn't.
33:27
Speaker 1: And just a few sessions with a public floor therapist
33:32
Speaker 1: would make a mom feel so much more confident. Yeah,
33:35
Speaker 1: you know, just understanding or even one one session at
33:38
Speaker 1: the postpertum checkup of like, Okay, if you had a
33:40
Speaker 1: C section, how to do scar work because that is
33:43
Speaker 1: scar tissue and we may not be able to fully
33:46
Speaker 1: engage your ABS a couple of years later if you
33:48
Speaker 1: never did scar work, right, So, just these tidbits of
33:51
Speaker 1: information that might be really resonate with someone help them
33:55
Speaker 1: as they go through their post perdum period. I don't
33:56
Speaker 1: even mean that for the first year it could be
33:58
Speaker 1: a couple of years later.
33:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, there a few things that you've said that I
34:01
Speaker 2: just want to make sure that we highlight again first
34:04
Speaker 2: and foremost, both during and after. Be cognizant of the
34:09
Speaker 2: loads that you're doing, and have the grease with yourself
34:11
Speaker 2: to know that things are going to be different now
34:13
Speaker 2: and that's okay. It's so important to meet yourself with
34:17
Speaker 2: where you're at.
34:18
Speaker 1: It's such a short period of time in the grand
34:21
Speaker 1: scheme of things. It's exactly what it is, right like,
34:24
Speaker 1: give yourself that time. You're going to look back and
34:27
Speaker 1: wish you gave yourself more grace. It's what I'm trying
34:29
Speaker 1: to say is, you know, I look back and I'm
34:31
Speaker 1: seeing all these things on social media now of like
34:33
Speaker 1: I wish I knew this when I was twenty, you know,
34:35
Speaker 1: and I think some things I wish I knew is
34:37
Speaker 1: like just slow down, it's okay, work is going nowhere,
34:41
Speaker 1: and there's always time to train.
34:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always time to train. That's such a really
34:45
Speaker 2: good point. And then also for the women that are
34:49
Speaker 2: struggling with finding the time but they want to make it,
34:53
Speaker 2: what do you tell them?
34:55
Speaker 1: I go through this even now as a mom of
34:57
Speaker 1: two and just oh, you know, the scheduling is always changing,
35:01
Speaker 1: and you know, summer camp is coming soon and I've
35:03
Speaker 1: got to drive them all over the place. It doesn't
35:06
Speaker 1: have to be groundbreaking, you know, twenty thirty minutes, three
35:10
Speaker 1: four days a week, and if I can get in
35:13
Speaker 1: an extra great, you know, And I typically do it
35:16
Speaker 1: for me, I do it usually after drop off, and
35:18
Speaker 1: I do my schedule ahead of time, so like Sunday night,
35:21
Speaker 1: I look at the schedule and I'm like, okay, where
35:23
Speaker 1: can I fit in my training?
35:24
Speaker 3: And it's a non negotiable for me.
35:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that this is another really good
35:28
Speaker 2: opportunity to meet yourself with where you're at in terms
35:30
Speaker 2: of what's available to you. Right Like, if you have
35:34
Speaker 2: a bunch of things to do during your day and
35:36
Speaker 2: the baby is napping, maybe it isn't a priority actually
35:40
Speaker 2: to work out during that time. Maybe you do need
35:43
Speaker 2: to come back into your body and just like have
35:45
Speaker 2: a beat. And it's okay if sometime totally that looks
35:48
Speaker 2: different than maybe how you'd hope. It's like, again, we
35:51
Speaker 2: go back to this idea of listening to your body
35:54
Speaker 2: and being honest about what you need the most. In
35:57
Speaker 2: that moment.
35:58
Speaker 1: Totally and it always evolves, right, yeah, it just evolves.
36:02
Speaker 1: And just to know that life is always changing and
36:05
Speaker 1: this is right now, but it doesn't mean forever.
36:09
Speaker 2: That's so powerful. So as we start to wrap up here,
36:14
Speaker 2: what other advice do you have for women who are
36:17
Speaker 2: navigating this as you so gracefully put such a short
36:21
Speaker 2: time period.
36:22
Speaker 1: It is it is when you're in it. It doesn't feel
36:24
Speaker 1: that way when it comes to just anything. It just
36:28
Speaker 1: life when you're starting anything new, and you can consider
36:30
Speaker 1: after the postpartu period, you're starting new right with the
36:34
Speaker 1: core specifically, maybe not your overhead press, but your core
36:37
Speaker 1: has been stretched and accommodated space for a human. It's
36:42
Speaker 1: really important to understand that the core and the pelvic
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Speaker 1: floor are connected. So you're not going to just train
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Speaker 1: your core and you're not just going to train your
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Speaker 1: public floor, right, training them together through breath work and
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Speaker 1: through certain core movements, they strengthen at the same time.
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Speaker 1: Because if you strengthen one and not the other, you
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Speaker 1: think of it like a pressure system, right, So if
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Speaker 1: you're just strengthening the center of your abs, the pressure
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Speaker 1: is gonna go down through your public floor. If you're
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Speaker 1: just doing pelvic floor work because you're concerned about peeing
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Speaker 1: your pants, then the pressure's gonna go out your belly button, right,
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Speaker 1: It's got to go somewhere, So both have to happen together.
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Speaker 1: And keep in mind that you're using your core actually
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Speaker 1: all the time. So just having good posture, carrying grocery bags,
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Speaker 1: that's all core work. Holding your baby that's core work.
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Speaker 1: So the littlest thing could be could be core work
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Speaker 1: without it seeming like you're doing a side plank or
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Speaker 1: you know, a plank, And actually those things may not
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Speaker 1: even be the most the best tools for you in
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Speaker 1: that moment, because if you're holding a plank, your your
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Speaker 1: abs may not be ready to hold you in that position.
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Speaker 1: But you can definitely hold do a farmer carry and
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Speaker 1: some like marches, and you're gonna be holding your baby anyway.
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Speaker 1: So just movement, non traditional app movements I always love
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Speaker 1: for my mom's postpartum because you're.
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Speaker 3: Gonna be doing them like they're you're gonna be doing
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Speaker 3: them anyway.
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Speaker 1: Getting up out of bed, learning how to roll over
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Speaker 1: is my favorite favorite thing for the core because you're
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Speaker 1: strengthening the midline every time you roll, and the mid
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Speaker 1: line is what gets the most stretched when accommodying baking space.
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Speaker 2: The other thing I'm hearing you say is the importance
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Speaker 2: of playing attention to the muscles as you engage that. Yes, right,
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Speaker 2: and that's totally. That's sometimes we're just like half hazardly
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Speaker 2: going through a workout. We're listening to an app where
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Speaker 2: gods what we're doing our heads in atal liss. So
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Speaker 2: if you're going to commit this time to moving your body,
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Speaker 2: try to be intentional with it.
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Speaker 1: Twenty minutes might be enough. Fifteen minutes might be enough
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Speaker 1: if you're spread really thin with having a new child, right,
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Speaker 1: or if you're spread thin in general. I'd rather have
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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of intentional movement versus sixty minutes of like
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Speaker 1: all over the place.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say, talk to us a little
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Speaker 2: bit about as talk to us a little bit about
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Speaker 2: breaking that up, about smaller snackable movement sessions.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, no, totally.
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Speaker 1: Something I'd love to do is set a timer, right,
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Speaker 1: pick two movements the push pull, or maybe it's like crawl, rotate,
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Speaker 1: So maybe your newly postpartum something I'll do. It's like, okay,
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Speaker 1: you're going to just roll and do the first part
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Speaker 1: of a Turkish get up, you're going to stay on
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Speaker 1: the ground and the first minute you're going to the
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Speaker 1: left side. The second man you're gonna do the right side,
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Speaker 1: and then maybe I'll have them do a dead bug
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Speaker 1: on the third minute.
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Speaker 3: Just do those three movements. Yeah, for twenty minutes.
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Speaker 1: And you thirty second one to one rest ratio, thirty minutes,
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Speaker 1: thirty seconds on, thirty seconds off. Doesn't have to be competed,
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Speaker 1: it does not have to be complicated. I'd want much
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Speaker 1: rather someone be intentional. Right, It's like you read a
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Speaker 1: book and you flip you read one hundred pages and
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Speaker 1: you're like, what did I just read? I'd rather you
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Speaker 1: sit down, read two or three pages, be really intentional
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Speaker 1: about it, and get.
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Speaker 3: More out of the movement.
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Speaker 1: And I know that can be really hard in the
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Speaker 1: life that we live in right now because everything is
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Speaker 1: just so fast paced. We see a million things scroll, scroll, scroll.
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Speaker 2: So understandable. Yeah, so many good takeaways from this conversation.
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Speaker 2: I think some of the most poignant ones may be one.
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Speaker 2: Everyone is different, right, so totally your best not to compare,
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Speaker 2: which is extremely so hard, extremely difficult. But if you
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Speaker 2: have the opportunity to talk one on one with someone
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Speaker 2: about what's going on in your body so that you
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Speaker 2: can the best that you can do to take care
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Speaker 2: of you. You just did a really big thing. And
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Speaker 2: that again, I love that takeaway, that this is such
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Speaker 2: a small chapter in the big, grand scheme of things.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that postpartum health has made me
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Speaker 1: such a better mom because I give my kids the grace.
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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I give it to myself? If they're burnt out,
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Speaker 1: I keep them home from school, even if they don't
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Speaker 1: have a fever. I'm like, stay home, Like would you
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Speaker 1: go to work if.
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Speaker 3: You feel awful? You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Even if you're just like overloaded and stressed. Now it's
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Speaker 1: like we need to do less.
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Speaker 2: Actually, for those that want more content from you, that
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Speaker 2: want to follow along with you, keep up with you.
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Speaker 2: How do the hurdlers find you?
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Speaker 1: I love that hurdlers, I'm easy to find them at
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Speaker 1: Mossa Paris Fitness. I very much enjoy this conversation. Thank
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Speaker 1: you so much for having me.
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Speaker 2: Of course I'm over at emily A Badi at Hurdle Podcast.
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Speaker 2: Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.