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Connection | Full K-drama Review / Ep. 89 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

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  I'm Jessica and this is Tabot K Rambles where a couple of
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  friends review Korean dramas and welcome back for another
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  episode. We are going to be reviewing
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  Connection. And for this episode I am joined
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  by my true crime crime thriller bestie, Caitlin from the No
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  Sleep for Dramas podcast. How are you, Caitlin?
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  Hello, I'm good. I'm so excited I get a chance to
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  talk about this. Oh my God, So girl, like we have
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  been chatting on and off about this drama for a long time.
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  You're the one who put it on my radar because last year you said
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  it was in like your top five dramas of 2024.
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  And I said, whoa, what is this drama?
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  So we kind of were talking through and we were like, we
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  have to watch this drama. What if I, what if I covered it
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  on Tabak? Would you come on and review it
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  with me? And you were like absolutely,
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  100%. I'll come on and review it with
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  you. So now the time has finally
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  come. I have watched it for the first
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  time. You have rewatched.
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  It. I'm just so excited, so excited.
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  To talk. I'm excited because, yeah, when
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  I watched this the first time, there were not a lot of people
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  who watched it for various reasons.
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  Like some of the dramas that were airing around the same time
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  were a lot more popular. Some people might not be fans of
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  G songs, so they skipped it. So like, I literally, it was
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  like me and one other person on Instagram who were both watching
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  at the same time and we were both messaging each other.
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  And I, I have to remember who it was because I don't remember off
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  the top of my head right now. But we were both like, thank God
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  you're watching this. I need to talk about it with
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  somebody. Yeah.
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  If you remember the game, shut them out.
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  But I will, I, I'll, I'll look it up or maybe I'll give it to
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  you after and I'll you can put it in the notes or something.
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  Yeah, because honestly, this show, no, like barely anybody
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  was talking. I think I saw one person on
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  TikTok talking about connection and really it was not in a lot
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  of top ten, top five lists at the end of the year.
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  Creators just were not talking about this.
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  K drama. And I like to genre hop.
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  I like to dip my toes into a lot of different genres.
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  I don't just stick with romance. I don't just stick with slice of
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  life. I like dark and gritty dramas
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  and this one really grabbed my attention from the get go.
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  So before we get into it though, if this is your first time
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  the show. All right, so we're going to
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  deep dive on connection. I have some notes.
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  I'm not sure if you have notes or if you're just going to wing
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  it because. I'm winging it.
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  I usually do. Caitlin doesn't show up with
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  notes, she just like wings it every time.
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  And I respect that. I respect that.
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  I really do. So we're going to start off as
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  always with the My Drama list synopsis for this non spoiler
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  section, it reads. Detective Dong De Kyung of
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  Onions Narcotics Unit is forcibly addicted to a
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  mysterious drug as his body deteriorates.
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  Reporter All Yunjin, his former high school friend, investigates
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  a drug related death and crosses paths with him again.
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  Their pursuit of the truth entangles them with Gung Hyung
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  Groups vice chairman and a prosecutor unraveling a dark
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  conspiracy tied to $50 million. As betrayals surface, Jake Young
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  bows retribution. But who is the real mastermind
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  and who will survive the battle? This aired from May to July
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  2024. So happy anniversary, one year
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  anniversary to Connection. Because when this episode airs,
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  it will be, I think, a May 8th release.
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  This originally aired at the end of May.
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  But that's OK, We'll just give it the one year anniversary.
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  Happy one year. Some of the other dramas that
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  aired around this time, you mentioned that maybe this would
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  affect it. You know, the popularity of
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  Connection. Midnight Romans and Hogwan aired
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  May 11th and was airing around the same time.
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  The Atypical Family aired May 4th and Crash aired May 13th.
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  So some other dramas that we're cooking around this time,
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  there's other ones too, but I just thought, oh, these were
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  like a little more popular than maybe some of some of the other
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  ones. This show is 14 episodes long,
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  1/4 and it looks like it has two directors, Kim Moon Kyo who's
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  directed Trolley and Lovers of the Red Sky and Quan Dassam
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  who's directed My Demon and Trolley.
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  So these directors have worked together twice on Trolley and
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  Connection. It's written by Ehion.
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  For some reason it looks like this person has only done 2
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  projects, Connection and Diary of a Prosecutor.
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  Wow, that's a very, very different genre.
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  So so you've watched some of these shows like have you
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  watched Trolley I? Have actually not watched any of
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  them. Trolley has been on my list
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  forever because I've heard very good things about it.
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  I have not watched Diary of a Prosecutor.
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  I've heard, again, very good things, but it's more of like a
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  slice of life for a prosecutor's life.
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  And so I'm very wishy washy when it comes to slice of life genre.
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  So I just haven't checked it out, but a couple of people have
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  been like, dying for me to watch it.
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  Gotcha. So, yeah, yeah.
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  All right, this show does have a large cast, a large ensemble
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  cast, but I'm only gonna focus on two people right now.
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  We can talk about other ones. Maybe that drew your eye in the
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  cast, but we have Ji Song as Zhang Jakyong.
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  He's the cop. He's been married to actress
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  Eboo Yong since 2013. They've been dating since 2007.
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  I hear from people in my DMS that this is a nice couple, that
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  they are, you know, well liked, well respected in the industry.
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  I have watched her in some dramas as well.
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  Ji Song has 6 movies to his name, 23 TV shows to his name
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  including Adamas the Devil, Judge, Doctor John, Familiar
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  Wife, Kill Me Heal me. Would you believe me if I said
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  this is my very first G Song drama?
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  Yes, I actually would. Yeah, yeah, 'cause I also have
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  not watched a lot of his famous ones.
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  Like again, the Devil Judge has been on my list to check out
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  forever. I still haven't clicked play, so
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  I actually am not really surprised by that.
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  Yeah, here's what I'll say about G Song.
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  I have always known of his existence.
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  I know of his, you know, career. I have seen the posters, I've
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  seen the trailers for his shows and have just never, ever felt
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  the urge to press play on anything, whether it be the plot
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  is kind of like I never felt drawn to any of his projects.
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  And maybe it's because in his younger years, I kind of didn't,
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  I think he looked very attractive.
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  This sounds weird to say because he's not ugly to me.
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  I just don't maybe. And I said this in Adm to
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  somebody because they were talking about how hot he is.
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  And I was like, he looks like a gecko to me.
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  Like, you know, some people just have a look to them and there's
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  no rhyme or reason. You're just like, that person
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  reminds me of a llama. And like you're just like,
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  there's no, it's, it's irrational.
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  Geez. It just looks like a gecko, a
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  very angular gecko face to me. And again, a very rational
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  thought. I have no beef at all with G
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  Song. However, I thought in connection
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  him being, oh, what is he like in his 40s now?
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  Has he has to be like in his 40s him, in his 40s him?
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  With he's almost 50. He's 48.
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  Oh, 48. OK, so he's 48.
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  He's 48. OK, so he's 48 years old.
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  And him with the police. Get up with the chunky black
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  jacket. Listen to me.
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  I was salivating. I was like, this is it like, I
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  love this look. I thought he was so hot.
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  Sorry. Like, sue me.
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  I thought he looked so attractive in connection.
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  Maybe it's just, you know, age meeting the right aesthetic
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  look, right? I don't know.
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  I don't know. But him and connection really
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  connected with me. Nice one.
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  Nice one. Yeah, yeah.
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  OK so his main Co star is Chon me though she plays O Yunjin.
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  Quickly going back the the dramas I have seen him in Oh
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  yes, please were well, obviously kill me, heal me.
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  That's like one of his most famous roles ever.
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  I don't remember much of it, but I definitely have watched it.
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  And then I've watched most of like his more crazier dramas
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  like secret, which is like a Uber mahjong crazy, crazy drama,
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  which I probably need to rewatch.
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  Defendant I've watched is a unbelievably good crime drama
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  like this is probably defendants my second favorite role of his,
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  but it's one of those like really, really well acclaimed
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  crime dramas and he's the star of it.
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  And then that's pretty much it. That's I've like watched a
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  really, really classic and then some more classic but crazier,
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  crazier dramas of his. Any of his more recent ones I
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  have not though. OK, OK, I thought you might have
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  watched some recent ones. The one that I almost feel like
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  I was closest to pressing play on was Familiar Wife.
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  Yeah, I've heard. I've heard good things, like if
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  it's a genre that works for you, it's just not a genre that works
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  for me. So I didn't click play on.
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  Yeah, I've always wanted to watch Adamus, but I have.
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  It's one of those things where I haven't heard anybody talk about
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  the show, so I don't know if it's good or bad.
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  Which means I should probably just check it out, because
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  again, connection no one was talking about.
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  It true. The thing is, I think when no
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  one talks about shows and we're like, man, I wonder if it's any
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  good, you're looking at the people who should be watching it
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  then. Because I think at this point,
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  we're the people who are checking out shows and telling
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  others. That they should have watched.
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  Them or not. Also, for like the longest time,
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  Adamus wasn't available anywhere in the United States.
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  It is now available, but it took at least a year, if not longer,
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  for it to become available overseas.
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  Yeah, that's the thing too, is that a lot of shows, especially
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  older ones, may or may not be available in your region through
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  reputable means. So you know G Song?
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  Also G Song has been famous for a really long time.
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  Really long time. And I feel like a lot of people
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  might not know him. Right.
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  Yeah, yeah, because it's not necessarily he doesn't, he
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  hasn't like stepped back from making noise.
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  I think he makes at least like once A1A year.
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  He already has one lined up for next year.
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  I don't think it's coming out this year, but he's not a
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  traffic star per SE anymore, whereas back in the day he was.
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  I mean, I wouldn't say he lost any of his fame because as you
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  said, he's he and his wife are very beloved in Korea and they
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  go on variety shows all the time, especially the married
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  ones. But I would say he's not the
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  traffic star that he was 15 years ago or something.
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  Right, right. So that's Jason.
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  His Co star John Middo plays Oyunjin and she's only been in
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  like 4 dramas and I remember covering her in Hospital
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  Playlist. This is where people will know
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  her best from. She's the neurosurgeon in
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  Hospital Playlist one and two, she has a background in theatre.
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  Hospital Playlist was basically her first major TV role and
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  obviously she can actually sing in real life.
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  She was in 39 in 2022 and I was pleasantly surprised to see her
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  in episode 1 of Connection and she plays just a huge role
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  throughout the show. What do you What is your
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  experience with John Nido? So I started watching 39 but I
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  eventually dropped it. So that is my, that was my only
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  prior experience of her. And of course I've heard of
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  Hospital Playlist, but that's not a genre I will ever watch,
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  so I'm never going to be watching that.
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  Yeah, but. Medical slice of life, right?
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  I can't imagine that you'd press clay on that.
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  Right, I actually did try just because I was curious about it
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  and I was like Nope I need like trauma code version of medical
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  show, not this. Not this.
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  It's so light and sweet and they're singing and it's like,
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  OK. Yeah, yeah.
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  So yeah, this is really my first full drama I have watched of
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  her. She was great in 39.
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  I did like her character in 39 but the story just didn't work
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  for me. OK, yeah, it didn't work for a
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  lot of people. I I never.
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  Yeah, I know that a lot of people dropped that drop.
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  A lot of people were bitching about that show anyway, So tell
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  me though is in this show and is there anybody else that you
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  wanted to cover from the? Yeah, I want to touch base on
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  Quan Yul. OK, OK, Talk to me about South.
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  He plays Pactigeon. Yes.
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  And the the reason I want to point him out is he had a really
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  big year last year. Oh.
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  Did he? Yeah, he he's always been
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  around. He's always been supporting
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  characters and kind of just showing up everywhere.
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  I mean, he was in voice, he was in Connection, he was in Dolly
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  and the Cocky Prince. Like he he's been acting for a
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  while, but last year it seemed like he was consecutively in a
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  drama like all year. So last year he was in frankly
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  speaking, which was just a guess role and that aired.
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  It was in May. So around the same time of
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  connection, then he did connection, then he did Sweet
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  Mobster, which he was ironically also a prosecutor, I think.
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  Because he did it so well. Yeah, and I think Sweet Mobster,
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  like, aired right after this. Like it was connection and then
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  it was Sweet Mobster. Yeah.
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  And then he showed up in Cinderella at 2:00 AM.
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  It was only a couple, like a guest role for a couple
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  episodes, but he was consistently on people's TV.
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  Screens for like. Six months.
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  That's the way you got to do. It right, which that was a lot
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  for him. He only does like two or three
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  or one or two dramas a year. If you look at his MDL.
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  So like to have three dramas was a lot.
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  And so I remember just, I remember when I was commenting
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  of like, wow, he's doing a lot this year.
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  And it's like good roles, like it's ones that people remember
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  him if they were watching. Every voice.
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  Yeah, that's where I know him from.
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  I was introduced to him in the Voice franchise, which they're
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  making my. Fairly from 2009.
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  Oh yeah. Dude.
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  Oh, he was in Let's Eat too. No wonder I thought he looked
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  familiar. Anyway, so that's our cast.
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  Anybody else that you wanted to talk about?
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  Well, you have Kim, King Nam, who people love and know very
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  well, and then you. Have I didn't know.
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  I mean, I know that he, I was surprised he was in this cast
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  because he hadn't done a drama in three years like this was,
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  and I couldn't remember if it was because he did the.
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  Military. Or he just was.
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  Where Stars Land, About Time, Come and hug me, Prison
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  Playbook. So I remember him from Prison
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  Playbook, which there's an episode on that.
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  Yeah, and Come and Hug me was a very prominent role for him too.
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  He was also in defendant. He was, You just mentioned
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  defending. He was defended as CL's
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  secretary. I don't know.
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  Yes, yeah. And so, yeah, this was a this
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  was a surprise to me because like, he hadn't done the drama
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  in three years. And I was like, oh, you're in
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  this drama. Interesting.
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  OK. And it was a role I had never
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  seen him do because I don't want to do spoilers, so I'm not going
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  to say what his role was. We'll be doing that later.
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  And then the last person I want to mention is Jung Yu Min.
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  She was the lead from my perfect My perfect Marriage Revenge,
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  which again, like my perfect marriage revenge was her like
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  comeback drama. She hadn't been in the drama for
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  years. And then she pops up in this and
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  I'm like, oh, you're like riding that wave.
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  Like people were excited to see her because they had just come
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  off of perfect marriage revenge, which she was excellent in and I
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  think she was excellent in this one.
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  So I find that it's I, it's funny that like a, a bunch of
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  these support characters have been acting for a really long
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  time and kind of use this as a comeback.
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  It was. A nice vehicle for everybody.
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  Yeah, because it like it was an ensemble drama.
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  Like obviously, yes, it was about G Song and the trio of him
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  and we'll get into that. But like the the other
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  supporting characters that you had still had pretty prominent
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  roles in this. Yeah, no, because how of how
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  well written it was. Right, right.
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  Yeah, so. I just wanted to point that out,
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  all right? Do we want to go into the awards
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  it got? Oh, sure.
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  Really quick OK, so I'm if people don't know I, I watch all
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  of the Korean drama awards on New Year's Day, like I'm
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  marathon them and that is like how I start out my year every
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  single year. I've been doing it for five
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  years. So I watch the SBS, I watch the
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  like the three major networks. So this one, this is.
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  SBS. This is SBS so Jung me Do won
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  the top Excellence Award for a specialized genre or action
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  miniseries, and I want to say this was like her first award
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  she had ever won ever She. Barely has a career.
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  Not that she barely has a career.
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  She barely has a resume, especially compared to a lot of
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  the cast. Yeah, like this is the same
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  network that aired Flex Cop and Good Partner.
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  Yeah. So like Good Partner was winning
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  a lot of awards. The judge from Hell was the same
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  network, Fiery Prince was the same network.
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  So let's see Kuan Yu one as a supporting actor, Kim Kyung Nam
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  1, You Some Bong 1 and Jung Yu Min all one for best supporting
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  actor. So basically all the friends and
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  Kimmy Ju won best new actor Kimmin Ju, which is one of the
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  high school students. With.
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  The one of the actors who played the high school students and
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  then it won best drama of the year.
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  Like it won the big, big award for the drama thing.
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  Obviously G Sum was up for day song, but he didn't win.
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  It was good partner, which made sense.
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  But yes, these award shows kind of are like everybody gets an
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  award type of thing. But that's how I feel like I
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  never it was. Yeah, yeah.
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  I never report on that. I know everybody wins one.
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  Yes, it would be as if a network, as if The CW was giving
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  out awards for all The CW shows that aired that year.
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  And it's like, OK, it's just a pat on the back of the network.
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  So I never kind of put stock in those.
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  But yeah, absolutely. I feel like these people are
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  definitely deserved some recognition, especially at the
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  larger award ceremonies like Pak Song and the Blue Dragon Awards
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  and stuff like that. The but they it did not.
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  Right, it didn't. But what I will say though is
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  given the competition of last year for SBS with good partner
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  everything, I was surprised they even got awards because good
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  partner with the ratings. This did really good in Korea,
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  but good partner, like swept it out of like swept everything.
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  So I wasn't expecting anybody to get awards at all, let alone be
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  nominated so. Yeah, I was looking at the
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  ratings for it and it was good for basically consistently
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  second place in Seoul and nationwide.
• 21:31
  And so I was like, well, that that's not bad at all.
• 21:33
  It was, it ended up with like 14% of viewership.
• 21:38
  So that's fantastic for what it is, and considering nobody in
• 21:42
  the international audience or the international sphere was
• 21:45
  necessarily talking about it. So this show did fairly well.
• 21:50
  So yeah, I'm going to switch gears and ask you, what did you
• 21:54
  think of Connection? I think everybody knows what he
• 21:56
  thought generally, but you know, please, in your own words.
• 22:01
  So for me, it's nearly a perfect crime drama.
• 22:04
  For me, there was one thing at the end I did not like and I did
• 22:08
  not think was necessary. We can get into that, but I can
• 22:12
  ignore that one thing. So I will say it's a 5 out of
• 22:16
  five for me. I, I can, it wasn't necessary.
• 22:20
  I could have done without it. Rewatching it, I kind of
• 22:23
  understood more why they put it in there.
• 22:26
  But my first like watch of this, I was like, oh, why are we
• 22:30
  adding this thing? It's not needed, blah blah blah.
• 22:33
  I gave it a 9.5 out of 10 due to that small minuscule thing that
• 22:37
  they added at the end. I can ignore that now, but I say
• 22:41
  it's 5 out of 5 for me. Wow, so you're already giving it
• 22:44
  5 out of five toju bottles and you have very minuscule
• 22:50
  complaints about it? Yes.
• 22:52
  OK, Yep, Yep. All right, I will go ahead and
• 22:56
  say I fucking love this show. I had a fantastic time with this
• 22:59
  show. I was messaging you throughout
• 23:02
  my watch in all caps. I was sending you really
• 23:06
  panicked messages because the experience of watching this was
• 23:11
  second to none. This was a wild, wild ride.
• 23:16
  It was a Mr. A murder mystery. It was a crime thriller.
• 23:21
  It was a noir. It was just the seedy, underbill
• 23:27
  corruption. It was everything all at once.
• 23:30
  It wasn't just one thing. And I loved this paranoia, like
• 23:35
  running through it because of Chi Song's character, not
• 23:40
  knowing who to trust, not knowing who got him addicted to
• 23:43
  drugs and who knows and you know all these things.
• 23:49
  Who can he trust? And I love the the concept of
• 23:54
  ethics and morality in not just the police force, but also in
• 23:58
  journalism with Tonido's character of Eunjin.
• 24:03
  I love that. I loved the friends group, who
• 24:09
  is the one that kind of like received all the awards.
• 24:11
  You named all the actors, but that ensemble group.
• 24:16
  Really cool to see them in action and to see how all of the
• 24:20
  roles are split up because they each have a function within the
• 24:24
  group and you're not quite sure what they do until like, because
• 24:28
  it plays out right. Like you're just not everything
• 24:31
  is given to you all at the same time.
• 24:32
  And I love that. I love how they're it's drip
• 24:35
  drip instead of drip marketing drip storytelling you.
• 24:38
  Basically find out when the characters find out, which is in
• 24:42
  my in my opinion, the best way to do a crime show.
• 24:45
  Yes, yes. And everybody knows, not
• 24:49
  everybody, but I would say a vast majority of people who
• 24:52
  consume Korean dramas and Asian media kind of understand
• 24:58
  implicitly that Korea has some of the strictest narcotics laws
• 25:04
  and are the hardest on drugs. If you do drugs outside of Korea
• 25:09
  and you come back, they can still pick you up for that.
• 25:11
  They will still go after you for that.
• 25:13
  People have gone down. People have committed suicide
• 25:15
  over getting drug allegations thrown at them, right?
• 25:19
  It is like a death sentence for your career in Korea.
• 25:22
  If you are some sort of entertainer and you get caught
• 25:25
  up in drug allegations and the fact that this is a narcotics
• 25:29
  unit and the cop is the one that got addicted, I Oh my God, I was
• 25:34
  like living. I remember when they announced
• 25:37
  this story and I was like, how the hell are they going to pull
• 25:40
  that off? Because I know, like, just from
• 25:43
  what you said just now, like they have the strictest drug
• 25:46
  laws. How is that going to be received
• 25:48
  by the public who's grown up in this society that has a very
• 25:51
  strict drug law? Because in like America, we have
• 25:55
  drugs in our shows all the time. It comes to like, because it's
• 25:59
  kind of dude. Your neighbor down the street
• 26:00
  is. Addicted to drugs?
• 26:02
  Exactly. Yeah, and they have a full time
• 26:04
  job. They they pay their bills on
• 26:06
  time. Like it's crazy here in America.
• 26:09
  Yeah, so I thought they pulled it off very well.
• 26:12
  It like exceeded my expectations just because I didn't really
• 26:15
  know what to expect. Yes, yes, there is so much
• 26:19
  anxiety in this show. I love the reveals.
• 26:23
  The cliffhangers at the end of every episode had me pressing
• 26:27
  place it's so freaking hard. Imagine me watching this week by
• 26:31
  week. Oh no.
• 26:31
  I don't know how you did it. I do not know how you did it
• 26:35
  because it was so compelling. It was so engaging.
• 26:39
  I was guessing different things. I had all these theories and
• 26:42
  then all this at the same time. I was like, I don't even know.
• 26:44
  Live and let God like I don't even know.
• 26:47
  Right, I just. Let him go.
• 26:49
  I likened the experience of watching this to watching Uncut
• 26:54
  Gems or Uncut Gems the Julia Fox audio.
• 27:02
  My sister reminded me of it the other day.
• 27:05
  Anyway, Unka Gems for those who don't know, is an Adam Sandler
• 27:08
  movie that is not a typical Adam Sandler movie.
• 27:11
  Like he could have been nominated for an Oscar for it.
• 27:14
  It is an anxiety inducing ride that does not let up on the gas
• 27:20
  pedal I had to put. I told you this yesterday when
• 27:23
  we were recording. I had to put my head between my
• 27:26
  legs at the end of the the theater showing when I watch
• 27:31
  Uncut Gems because I was like hyperventilate.
• 27:32
  I like could not stop my heart from pounding out of my chest
• 27:36
  after Uncut Gems. So that's how I felt watching
• 27:40
  Connection, and I was so thrilled with every part of it.
• 27:47
  I do have, like, little qualms with it, but for the most part,
• 27:50
  I loved it the way that it was filmed.
• 27:53
  Oh my gosh, yeah. My gosh.
• 27:57
  I thought it was so well done. It was visceral and tactile.
• 28:03
  The experience, watching him struggle with his addiction and
• 28:06
  with the withdrawal symptoms, him stumbling around,
• 28:10
  collapsing, disorientation, headaches, extreme sweating.
• 28:13
  He was pale. Like all these things were also
• 28:17
  told visually, like on screen and the way that it was shot.
• 28:22
  I keep saying like the way it was shot, the way that it was
• 28:24
  edited. They had like first person POV
• 28:27
  shots. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:29
  I love those like every time they do this I'm like, this is
• 28:31
  entirely effective every time. Gives you that disorienting
• 28:35
  effect of losing control, losing your balance.
• 28:37
  There's a shot, and this isn't necessarily a spoiler, but
• 28:40
  there's a shot of CEO Yoon. She has like a, a person behind
• 28:45
  her comes out from a hidden door behind her, looking kind of
• 28:49
  haggard and blocking what's in the room behind him because it's
• 28:52
  like a hidden door that he emerges from.
• 28:54
  And when he moves out of the doorway, it reveals what's
• 28:59
  behind him in the room. And it's a body that's hanging.
• 29:03
  It's a man strung up, evidently being tortured.
• 29:06
  And it is so shocking. That's a visual shock to the
• 29:09
  audience, right? I love when they set up things
• 29:12
  like that. Right.
• 29:14
  And it gives you a like she already had a presence, but this
• 29:18
  adds to. Yes.
• 29:20
  Her presence and her lore of her character.
• 29:23
  Exactly. I loved it.
• 29:25
  It was she was so nonchalant, like she was in the foreground,
• 29:28
  just really chill. And this is happening behind
• 29:31
  her, some sort of henchman evidently killing or torturing
• 29:35
  somebody in this hidden room behind her.
• 29:36
  I'm like, Oh my God, this adds so much.
• 29:39
  But I love the editing and the blocking of that.
• 29:41
  There's an elevator shot of the prosecuted character and G Song
• 29:47
  and G Song is behind and the prosecutors in the foreground
• 29:50
  and they do deep focus photography.
• 29:52
  I love when they do deep focus photography where it's both
• 29:56
  characters or both people. Foreground and background are
• 29:59
  both in focus. That's where deep focus comes
• 30:02
  from. And it's very Hitchcockian,
• 30:06
  right? Hitchcock used to do this all
• 30:07
  the time. And you see the stressed dipshit
• 30:10
  prosecutor asking questions and nervous and then answering these
• 30:16
  questions back to G Song, who's behind him.
• 30:20
  You understand implicitly that the male lead G Song has the
• 30:23
  upper hand, right? Right.
• 30:26
  Yeah. It's just so effective.
• 30:28
  They changed the aspect ratio for flashbacks.
• 30:32
  They narrowed it with the bigger.
• 30:34
  Color grading too. And the integrating too.
• 30:37
  Yeah, bigger letterbox lettering on the top and bottom.
• 30:40
  Oh my God, just so expertly done.
• 30:43
  I loved everything about it. So I love that the show was
• 30:46
  constantly surprising you and subverting exectations because
• 30:51
  it wasn't just like twist. It was like, oh, and here's
• 30:54
  something else about this character that you didn't know.
• 30:57
  Right, yeah, it reminded me of AI mean we I know Liliana has
• 31:02
  talked about this show and I also have talked about this
• 31:05
  show, but murder in something something tower.
• 31:11
  It's the Chinese crime show. I can't remember it, but it this
• 31:14
  is the same thing is like all the episode.
• 31:16
  The first episode is a perspective one person and then
• 31:21
  you learn something about something from that perspective.
• 31:24
  And then they the next episode goes to the next perspective,
• 31:27
  you learn something new and it goes on like that.
• 31:30
  This, this is kind of it's not explicitly like that in
• 31:33
  connection, but it I felt like it was like that because you
• 31:37
  again are learning as Joo Sung finds things out or Jung Bido's
• 31:41
  character finds things out. And then that show you learn as
• 31:45
  the cops who are investigating find things out.
• 31:47
  So it's the same thing. Yeah.
• 31:49
  Anything else you wanted to add before I I don't want to say too
• 31:51
  much else, I kind of just want to get into spoilers.
• 31:54
  Well, what's your what's your rating?
• 31:58
  I would probably do five. I would also probably do 5 cool
• 32:02
  5 out of five hold you bottles because I loved it.
• 32:06
  So you're like me, like you had some qualms with it, but like
• 32:09
  you could overlook them. I can and still give.
• 32:11
  Five out of five. Just such a ride.
• 32:14
  Yeah, yeah. Such a ride.
• 32:16
  And I, my sister, I think she was downstairs as I was watching
• 32:20
  some episodes yesterday and she goes, I heard you earlier and I
• 32:25
  was like, what do you mean? She's like, I heard you watching
• 32:27
  that show. I heard you go.
• 32:28
  I knew it from all the way upstairs.
• 32:33
  I'm screaming. I knew it and like just it was
• 32:37
  such a great watch experience and my only fear is that if I go
• 32:42
  and rewatch it, it won't live up to the first time I watch it
• 32:47
  because I already know what's coming.
• 32:50
  Maybe you can speak to this because you've rewatched.
• 32:52
  It I would say, I would say to some extent, yes, because yeah,
• 32:56
  like part of the first time watches, like you don't know
• 32:58
  what's coming, but you will notice other things that you
• 33:02
  might have missed. Like I said, I did, I still
• 33:06
  disliked the one thing in the end, but I noticed something
• 33:10
  about it that I didn't realize in the first watch that made me
• 33:16
  dislike it a little less. I still disliked it, but still.
• 33:21
  So I would say if you want to rewatch this, give it time
• 33:26
  though, because you might forget some of the details, you know,
• 33:29
  because I I for sure did, even though I just watched this last
• 33:32
  year. I was like, Oh yeah, that's
• 33:33
  right. That's how this played out.
• 33:35
  Yeah. So, but yeah, I it definitely
• 33:38
  you lose that shock factor a lot of the time.
• 33:43
  What are some comps maybe that people, if they're on the fence
• 33:47
  about watching it, if they've watched these other shows or
• 33:50
  they like to these other shows, then definitely.
• 33:54
  Watch connection. That's a hard question because
• 33:56
  again, this is like the first ever like drug drama.
• 34:00
  I've like drum K drama. I've ever watched defendant.
• 34:07
  I will always say defendant like it's just such a good crime
• 34:11
  drought and it's one of those things again, where it's like
• 34:14
  it's revealed after and after and after that.
• 34:18
  Trying to think of ones that would be like shock value.
• 34:21
  I kind of thought stranger was a little bit.
• 34:23
  Stranger would fit in there. The Memorist probably is a good
• 34:27
  one that's like a little underrated, but it definitely
• 34:31
  went places that I didn't think it would go.
• 34:35
  I would say voice to an extent like that was a pretty.
• 34:39
  It's visceral in the way that this show is visceral.
• 34:43
  It is definitely gory and things this isn't as gory as voice at
• 34:47
  all. Yeah, I would say that if you're
• 34:50
  afraid of blood and guts and butchering of people, really
• 34:55
  this, this show doesn't have that at all.
• 34:57
  Right. But yeah, I would say like
• 34:59
  defendant if you're looking for like the shock value, Stranger
• 35:02
  if you're looking for like the corruption part of it, voice if
• 35:07
  you're just looking for a classic crime drama.
• 35:10
  Yeah, yeah. Those are three I can think off
• 35:12
  of the top of my head. I'd add signal for like just a
• 35:15
  fantastical. Yeah.
• 35:17
  Supernatural side of yeah crime fighting anyway we're going to
• 35:21
  break for spoilers and talk about everything that happens in
• 35:24
  connection and I can't wait to do it we're going to get back to
• 35:28
  it right after this excuse me I. Can't tell.
• 35:33
  I can't tell you know I have no signal.
• 35:36
  Oh sorry, swear. Discussing what?
• 35:46
  All right, we're on the other side of spoilers.
• 35:47
  We really have not talked about any details regarding
• 35:52
  connection. If you do not want to be
• 35:55
  spoiled, you need to stop now, watch the show and come back
• 35:57
  later. If you don't care, if you want
• 36:00
  to spoil yourself, then fine, keep listening.
• 36:03
  Or if you've watched, then of course, keep listening.
• 36:06
  All right, the first surprise that I've wanted to talk about
• 36:10
  was that. I'm diving in, right?
• 36:12
  I'm. Diving right the fucking so join
• 36:15
  me though, who is you know the basically the one of the only
• 36:18
  female characters in the show. She was our hospital playlist
• 36:21
  girl. Maybe we'll just call her
• 36:22
  hospital playlist journalist girl.
• 36:25
  You see her in episode 1. Yunjin is the name of the
• 36:29
  character and I was jaw on the floor because she is a corrupt
• 36:39
  journalist who takes bribes and can be bought.
• 36:43
  She's even extorting money from the guy sitting across from her
• 36:47
  who's like some representative from some company there who's
• 36:50
  done some wrong and I. Was.
• 36:53
  Shocked, because let me tell you something, she's like an Angel.
• 36:57
  In a. Hospital playlist An Angel.
• 37:01
  So to see her in the show was a shock to the system.
• 37:07
  I loved how morally Gray she was.
• 37:10
  Yeah, and she's consistently morally Gray.
• 37:13
  It wasn't like just that scene. No, I remember being so angry at
• 37:18
  her character. Something really especially
• 37:21
  well, especially when she like is literally actually thinking
• 37:26
  about. Well, First off, yes, I realized
• 37:29
  she had problems with her ex and money problems and whatever.
• 37:34
  But like when she was actively thinking about the money and
• 37:38
  then trying to go to Kwan Yul's character and gets attacked with
• 37:42
  that. And I'm just like you creedy son
• 37:46
  of a bee. Like I remember being so angry
• 37:50
  in those types of scenes because it was consistent throughout the
• 37:53
  show. She was constantly thinking
• 37:56
  about money and constantly bringing it up and constantly
• 37:59
  trying to find a way to make to blackmail these people and to
• 38:03
  get more money out of them. Yes.
• 38:05
  Yeah. Yeah, the only reason why she
• 38:07
  joins hands with Chi Song is that there's a potential that
• 38:11
  she could get the insurance money right if they prove the
• 38:15
  murder versus the suicide. Yeah, she gets a payout.
• 38:20
  And I was like, Oh my God, I loved it.
• 38:25
  I loved it. Like this is, it's such an
• 38:29
  interesting complex character, let alone all the other
• 38:33
  characters too. But her as a mother, they keep
• 38:36
  harkening back to this, that she is separated from her daughter
• 38:40
  who's living in Canada with her like shitty ex.
• 38:43
  And she keeps having to send her whole paycheck and all of this
• 38:46
  alimony and like money and child support to Canada for her
• 38:50
  daughter. And she misses her and wants her
• 38:53
  back in Korea to live with her. And everything that she's doing
• 38:56
  is so that she can bring her back to Korea.
• 38:58
  I totally understand that, totally understand that.
• 39:01
  But she is also just kind of despicable.
• 39:05
  Yeah, yeah. And I love that.
• 39:08
  Yeah, it's a very, very fun character to watch.
• 39:14
  Like, because on one hand she is like, yeah, on one hand, you do
• 39:17
  root for her. You know that she's like, she
• 39:19
  may be despicable, but the people they're fighting against
• 39:22
  is are. Even more.
• 39:23
  Despicable. So like, you're like, OK, pick
• 39:26
  the the lesser of two evils here.
• 39:29
  Exactly. You know, yeah, like, she may be
• 39:31
  greedy. She may be all for the money.
• 39:33
  She would never go and murder some people.
• 39:36
  The other people are greedy, corrupt and would murder people
• 39:39
  on a dime. Right, Right.
• 39:42
  Yeah. I, I loved that.
• 39:44
  That was the initial subversion was that most audience members
• 39:48
  would see her as a hospital playlist girl.
• 39:51
  They barely see her in a drama. They've seen her in 39, they've
• 39:54
  seen her in hospital playlist. That's pretty much it.
• 39:57
  I think One other mother, I think she was in as like a.
• 40:00
  Maybe a sporting role? But she is fairly clean.
• 40:03
  She does not have history, right?
• 40:07
  She doesn't have baggage like G Song may have baggage like
• 40:10
  people have seen him on television.
• 40:12
  They see him in the variety shows.
• 40:13
  They know who his wife is. They don't know about her as
• 40:17
  much. They know has a hospital
• 40:18
  playlist. But they've seen her singing.
• 40:20
  They see her in a group, you know, right?
• 40:22
  And I love that they played off of that because she's so great
• 40:29
  and she's so greedy in the show, right?
• 40:34
  You're just taken aback immediately.
• 40:35
  You're like, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute.
• 40:38
  Yeah, and it's interesting to see her just to this.
• 40:41
  What is the word just next to, I'll say that next to G, son,
• 40:46
  because G overall being a cop is the more goody 2 shoes of the
• 40:54
  show. Super righteous.
• 40:56
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 40:56
  But then you have the third of their trio who's like, really,
• 41:01
  really, really righteous. Oh my God.
• 41:03
  He's like a regular dude. Yeah, he's a regular guy who
• 41:06
  like, just thinks everybody is good and like, would never do
• 41:10
  anything and is constantly shocked that people would lie to
• 41:13
  him. Right.
• 41:14
  He's like, you guys did this without me, like he's just a
• 41:17
  puppy dog. I thought he was a dog.
• 41:19
  Here's my thing. I thought he was going to be
• 41:22
  evil in some way, shape or form. Same.
• 41:24
  Same. OK, yeah.
• 41:26
  But then he became too much of the Comic Relief.
• 41:28
  Or like, they're not going to make this guy evil.
• 41:31
  Like it it fell back on the cliche puppy cop being the evil
• 41:34
  person, one of the evil people. Yes, yes, because either when
• 41:38
  you have a puppy cop, either they're dead by episode 12 or
• 41:42
  they turn out to be a betrayer and end up taking a bribe or
• 41:46
  doing something. That's one of the two cliches of
• 41:49
  a crime drama. OK, so the the moment when they
• 41:55
  find the dead and putured body of the third beneficiary in the
• 42:01
  insurance policy, it was like a pharmaceuticals researcher who
• 42:06
  presumably concocted the new drug.
• 42:09
  Yeah, the lemon Mulberry drug. Yes, the lemon Mulberry.
• 42:12
  Well, he, he concocted the original iteration like, yeah,
• 42:17
  the the first version of it, yeah.
• 42:20
  Yeah, I love this part, too, because they found his body and
• 42:23
  they're like, it was frozen, but then they thawed it out and they
• 42:26
  put it in back in his house. And they left all of this, like,
• 42:29
  paraphernalia around to make it seem like he was related to the
• 42:32
  audiophile group. Like, we were going to find this
• 42:34
  body. And then these Molotov cocktails
• 42:37
  start flying in the house. And I'm like, what is going on?
• 42:42
  Destroying all this evidence, trying to kill them.
• 42:44
  Obviously, that was another big, you know, surprise because now
• 42:50
  there's some sort of dissension in the ranks of the evil people
• 42:54
  who are out here killing drug engineers and putting them back
• 42:59
  in their houses. Someone put the body there for
• 43:02
  them to find and someone is trying to kill them.
• 43:04
  Right. So I just.
• 43:07
  The wheels are started falling off.
• 43:09
  Yes, yes, yeah. I love when you figure out that
• 43:14
  someone deleted the footage of him taking Lemon Mulberry in the
• 43:17
  police precinct. Oh my God, that gave me OK, so
• 43:22
  the the the parts that gave me anxiety for a lot is when he was
• 43:27
  high. Well, not high.
• 43:28
  He was going through a withdrawal looking for a drug in
• 43:32
  the police station. Yes, like that was the most
• 43:35
  anxiety inducing parts because it happened multiple times.
• 43:38
  It wasn't just like once. It was like multiple times
• 43:42
  because obviously he's a cop. So he's not only avoiding his
• 43:45
  own unit. There's also there's other
• 43:48
  really annoying unit in the police station that is
• 43:51
  suspicious of him because they work for the corrupt dude.
• 43:54
  Prosecutor. That unit can suck ass.
• 43:57
  They. Were.
• 43:58
  Horrible. They had no integrity whatsoever
• 44:02
  and they were active. It looked like they were
• 44:04
  actively sabotaging their investigations in the drug.
• 44:08
  And even if they were asking seemingly innocent questions
• 44:12
  about their investigation, they were like, no, we're not going
• 44:15
  to share information. This isn't your.
• 44:17
  It was like all of this. Yeah.
• 44:19
  Territorial. They're so territorial now.
• 44:23
  I will say in real life that does happen in police stations.
• 44:27
  People can be very protective of their own cases because if they
• 44:32
  solve it, it will be like they'll get the credit, right?
• 44:35
  You're right. So, like, it made sense on some
• 44:38
  in terms of the territorialness of it.
• 44:41
  But what I was mad about is like, they just kept going at G
• 44:45
  Song the entire time, like being suspicious of him.
• 44:48
  Granted, yeah, he was going through withdrawal symptoms.
• 44:50
  Of course they were suspicious of him.
• 44:52
  But like the whole getting his hair at the end, I remember
• 44:56
  being so angry because I was like, that is totally illegal.
• 45:00
  What you just did. Yes, yes, good for them like
• 45:03
  calling them out, but I was just like, really dude, it's like
• 45:07
  you're already. Corrupt.
• 45:08
  I liked that. They're, I like that the unit
• 45:10
  chief for the narcotics unit was this older female.
• 45:15
  I was like, Oh yeah, I get it. Bitch loved her.
• 45:17
  Loved her? Sure.
• 45:19
  Always on his side, even if she didn't like understand, like she
• 45:22
  wasn't really involved in a lot of like decent stuff.
• 45:26
  But you know, the fact that she had such a position of authority
• 45:29
  and was on his side, especially in the latter episodes when it
• 45:33
  comes out that he's an addict and all this stuff, I was like,
• 45:35
  yes, like, she's amazing. Him going through the police
• 45:39
  station, trying to get to the one place where these drugs were
• 45:43
  stored because they found some, and then taking them.
• 45:46
  I was just like, Oh my God, you're going to get caught.
• 45:49
  Somebody's going to walk in. And then when they when the
• 45:51
  footage was erased, I was like, who the hell erased the footage
• 45:55
  for you? That was a that was a thing.
• 45:55
  That was what he's going on. It's because like the the
• 46:00
  episode like ends and you're like.
• 46:01
  Who the hell? Deleted the footage, who saw it,
• 46:05
  who helped him, who gave him the drugs?
• 46:08
  All these questions. Every and then you're like
• 46:10
  suspicious of everybody. Like it was.
• 46:12
  Just so well written because you did not know who the trust other
• 46:16
  than G Sung and then like you. I mean because like for
• 46:21
  instance, because Jung Migo was so corrupt in her own space, you
• 46:25
  couldn't honestly trust her for a lot of it too.
• 46:29
  And then like it, I mean, it was revealed that Jung SU Wan, like
• 46:32
  the the third of the trio, the the insurance person, he was
• 46:36
  talking to Jung me Dong, but never telling things to Gsong.
• 46:39
  And Gsong was talking to Jummy Doe and never telling things to
• 46:41
  him. Like, yeah, even though they
• 46:43
  were working together, no one was communicating because no one
• 46:45
  trusted anybody. Right.
• 46:48
  It was so great. But then you compare that to the
• 46:51
  villain group and they were doing the same bullshit they
• 46:54
  were. Same thing.
• 46:55
  Doing things. Two of them would do something
• 46:58
  and not tell the others, and then one of them would do
• 47:01
  something not to the others, and three of them would do something
• 47:03
  and not tell the others. It would breed all of this
• 47:06
  animosity between them, distrust in the group and the other group
• 47:12
  imploded before our, you know, quote, UN quote, good trio.
• 47:17
  Yeah, definitely. But.
• 47:19
  Yeah, but miscommunication was way worse on the villain side
• 47:22
  than it was on the side of truth.
• 47:24
  Justice in the American way. But the I loved when the that
• 47:31
  moment when he goes to see the CCTV footage and it's already
• 47:35
  been scrubbed. Such a great moment.
• 47:38
  I also loved when you found out that June So's widow and the
• 47:44
  prosecutor were in on it together and they were having an
• 47:49
  affair. Oh my God.
• 47:51
  Yeah. The affair reveal was so great
• 47:54
  because the prosecutor bust into her home.
• 47:57
  She opens the door like, hello, welcome to my home, like,
• 48:02
  nothing. And he comes busting and
• 48:05
  immediately starts strangling her.
• 48:07
  And you're like, Oh my God, what's going on?
• 48:09
  Why is he strangling her? When he stops strangling her,
• 48:13
  that's when it's revealed that they were having an affair.
• 48:19
  And they they, you know, they have all this history together
• 48:23
  and you're like, Oh my God, this bitch, this bitch, because you
• 48:27
  thought that she was this loyal wife, right?
• 48:30
  She didn't want her husband to have a big why on his chest from
• 48:36
  the autopsy that they were gunning for and stuff because
• 48:40
  she didn't want her husband to meet up with her daughter in the
• 48:43
  afterlife and like him have this.
• 48:46
  Scar. Scar, all this thing and I was
• 48:48
  like, this page was cheating on him the whole time.
• 48:53
  Oh my God right? I also love the scene where G
• 48:57
  Song was in her apartment and like basically questioning her
• 49:01
  but not officially questioning her.
• 49:03
  Yes, he was going through all of their home videos and footage
• 49:06
  trying to get some sort of. Evidence.
• 49:09
  And then he was leaving. He was leaving and the door and
• 49:14
  the door starts beeping. And I, I remember watching this
• 49:18
  like, OK, who the hell is on the other side of that door?
• 49:21
  It's prosecutors. And then all of a sudden it
• 49:23
  opens up the prosecutor and everybody just like phrases.
• 49:27
  And that's the end. That's the end of the episode.
• 49:31
  Yeah, like a lot of the cliffhangers were relationship,
• 49:34
  yeah, had to do like relational issues, right.
• 49:37
  And that that's another one. Is that the cliffhanger?
• 49:41
  Was he potentially could find out that they were having an
• 49:46
  affair because the prosecutor just knew the House code?
• 49:49
  Knew the house. Code and was walking into the
• 49:51
  widow's apartment and like what the fuck so yeah yeah I'm like
• 49:56
  breathing hard and everything over here the.
• 49:59
  The taxi driver? Yeah, the taxi driver.
• 50:03
  He was I. Thought shit.
• 50:04
  Crazy. Bat shit crip.
• 50:06
  Bat shit crazy. I thought he played bat shit
• 50:08
  crazy in Psychopath. So great.
• 50:13
  Like he was doing something with his jaw, like he would kind of
• 50:16
  like hang his jaw a certain way. And I don't even know how to
• 50:20
  describe it, but I was like, that's genius.
• 50:21
  He looks crazy. And then he had crazy eyes too.
• 50:25
  Yeah, of it. Yeah, He had really nice crazy.
• 50:27
  Eyes, but he could turn. Crazy eyes.
• 50:29
  Really good. Yeah, Definitely, definitely.
• 50:31
  Because there were some scenes where I was like, OK, he looks
• 50:33
  kind of sane here. Right.
• 50:35
  The other two were angry, but other than yeah, yeah, so.
• 50:39
  Great. Like when he was washing his
• 50:40
  hands of the blood in some public bathroom or whatever and
• 50:44
  the kid sees the blood, some child in the bathroom sees the
• 50:47
  blood and he makes eye contact with the kid.
• 50:50
  I was like, oh, there goes the kid.
• 50:52
  The kids going to tell. There goes the elementary school
• 50:55
  kid, because he looked at he looked crazy.
• 51:01
  He did. He did.
• 51:02
  Oh, so great. They revealed that the puppy dog
• 51:06
  police cop was in on it as well. Not in on it.
• 51:10
  When I say in on it, it's like in on something else.
• 51:12
  Like he knew CEO Yun, who was one of the distributors of Lemon
• 51:19
  Mulberry and was like a drug cartel leader in town.
• 51:24
  This was the stupidest part of the show though, because this
• 51:27
  guy really thought, he really thought that if he made a deal
• 51:32
  with this CEO Yun, a drug cartel leader, to keep the streets
• 51:40
  clean. OK, you take out some rival drug
• 51:43
  cartel, A rival drug family, and I, CEO Yun says.
• 51:48
  I will keep the streets clean. Right.
• 51:52
  Yeah, like you're. Why do you?
• 51:53
  Believe anything that's coming out of her mouth.
• 51:56
  The. Cop that E Chung SU, Detective E
• 51:59
  Chung SU. Stupid.
• 52:01
  He's stupid and then he would come to her and like be mad at
• 52:05
  her. Right.
• 52:06
  I was like, do you know who you're dealing with?
• 52:08
  Dude, you're going to end up in the Han River.
• 52:11
  Keep going right? It's great.
• 52:15
  It was just so like, why would he believe anything that she
• 52:19
  says? Right, exactly it.
• 52:21
  Just like. He was that cop was just in over
• 52:24
  his head. Well, it was the.
• 52:26
  Same thing with like so like. Another anxiety inducing part
• 52:29
  was when he was deleting the CCTV in her backroom.
• 52:33
  Of him, yes, yes, yes, yes. And I was.
• 52:35
  Just like you're doing this in front of everybody in the front
• 52:37
  room. Yeah.
• 52:38
  Yeah. Like, obviously he had to do it
• 52:40
  right then and there, but it was just like, oh, my God.
• 52:43
  But that was it was the same thing with when he drove the van
• 52:47
  into the lake. I was just like.
• 52:49
  The band in the lake was like such a oh, you talk about it,
• 52:54
  you talk about. It, it was just like, I mean, it
• 52:57
  was true for what they they said this beautifully in the show.
• 53:00
  It was just the things did not match up.
• 53:02
  The guy, the handcuffs being on handcuffed because when you have
• 53:07
  a suspect in the back, you usually handcuff them to
• 53:09
  something. So the fact that those were
• 53:11
  undone, the fact that the window was open when it drove in, how
• 53:15
  he easily was on shore already like, and things just did not
• 53:18
  match up. And I'm just like, you got you.
• 53:20
  Clearly this was impulsive. It was an impulsive decision.
• 53:23
  He didn't plan to do it because obviously the guy that they had
• 53:28
  just arrested threatened him to reveal everything.
• 53:31
  So he impulsively had to choose to kill the guy.
• 53:35
  But it was just you didn't think this through.
• 53:39
  You did not think any of this through, which matches the
• 53:42
  impulsiveness of the decision. But yeah, it's just you.
• 53:46
  Eventually we're going to get found.
• 53:48
  It was a matter of time. It was just Elaine the
• 53:51
  inevitable. And he really did not like he
• 53:54
  said. He just didn't think it through.
• 53:55
  He like lowered the window and like jerked the yeah.
• 53:59
  Honestly I thought the delivery bike kid was going to get in
• 54:04
  more trouble. I thought he was Juico.
• 54:07
  I thought he was Juico's fair kid for like the longest time.
• 54:14
  Like I bet it was obviously revealed it wasn't.
• 54:16
  But I was like, dude, this dude had an affair and his wife had
• 54:19
  an affair. Like everybody was cheating but
• 54:21
  that kid. Was old like he was like a.
• 54:25
  But they've been married teen like high school, they've been
• 54:28
  married for a really long time. Like they got together like
• 54:31
  right after. No, yeah.
• 54:34
  I. Think so and the why I.
• 54:35
  Think the yeah I think they were married for a while.
• 54:38
  No. I could be wrong, I don't know.
• 54:41
  Maybe they never said how long they were married.
• 54:43
  I don't know. But I thought that he was like a
• 54:45
  love child somewhere. I don't know.
• 54:48
  I I that never crossed my mind but wow.
• 54:52
  No they couldn't have done that because Chunzo had to stay this
• 54:55
  like perfect Angel of a of a dead person otherwise nobody
• 55:01
  would have done anything to prove who murdered him.
• 55:04
  He would have been also like an ambiguous villain in this whole
• 55:08
  thing, which we don't. I guess he gets a free pass for
• 55:13
  everything that he does. Hey, there's.
• 55:16
  Nobody that well, there's nobody that prosecute.
• 55:19
  Of course he does well like. Yeah, but I thought that
• 55:23
  delivery by kid was going to get in more trouble because he's the
• 55:26
  one that swapped the drugs. Right.
• 55:28
  Yeah. He does get run over in the
• 55:30
  rain. You thought he was going to get
• 55:32
  murdered at some point? But I thought he was going to
• 55:34
  get prosecuted. I thought he was going to get
• 55:36
  murked something because he swapped the drugs on the drug
• 55:40
  run that June so was supposed to do and he ended up killing the
• 55:45
  old lady with a brain tumor. Right.
• 55:47
  Right, because she got the wrong drugs.
• 55:50
  Yeah. Poor lady, you know.
• 55:52
  What I'm saying, I know it's crazy how this title connection
• 55:57
  has more than one meeting in this show.
• 55:59
  Yes. Because it's like the little
• 56:02
  intricate connections of the threads that revealed throughout
• 56:05
  this show, for one. Then it was like the
• 56:07
  relationships between everybody. Because one of the more
• 56:11
  surprising parts for me was when, when you first enter this
• 56:14
  show, you're like, OK, June So's an old high school friend who
• 56:20
  ends up dead. Like, that's it.
• 56:21
  I was like, OK, he's going to be he's going to be finding out who
• 56:24
  murdered this dude. And then he's always going to
• 56:27
  figure out who drugged him. Like, that was the story.
• 56:30
  And then as you go along, you realize that this had been
• 56:34
  stemming from high school, like these connections and these
• 56:38
  feelings and these relationships.
• 56:40
  And then you find out like, how deep this dude was, Jinso, the
• 56:44
  dead guy, how deep he was in Yeah, how deep he was in this
• 56:50
  and how everything was connected not only with the high school
• 56:52
  relationships, but also the evil squad over here who all knew
• 56:58
  each other in high school, were friends, were not technically
• 57:01
  friends with G Sung in high school, but like, knew each
• 57:03
  other in high school. And like how everything stemmed
• 57:07
  back to the high school, the incident that happened in the
• 57:09
  high school. And then just like it, all the
• 57:12
  threads just connected. I think I had questions about
• 57:15
  what happened in the flashbacks and what happened in high school
• 57:18
  because who the hell was the kid that they killed?
• 57:19
  I thought you would. So it basically it was just a
• 57:24
  kid they bullied as far as I remember.
• 57:26
  But they made it seem like that kid bullied 4 eyes.
• 57:31
  Maybe. Maybe I'm just not remembering
• 57:34
  that part. Because there was a scene where
• 57:36
  they were all together. All the bullies were together.
• 57:39
  I don't even know what's called him the Doom Squad.
• 57:41
  All the Doom Squad were together in a classroom.
• 57:44
  And they were like, hey, you got bullied again.
• 57:47
  And Four Eyes, the one who created Mulgarry in the future,
• 57:52
  He's sitting there with like a busted lip.
• 57:54
  Right. Yes, yes.
• 57:56
  So I'm like OK, did he get bullied by another kid?
• 58:00
  No, yeah, I think I, I think you're right.
• 58:03
  I think they bullied. I think it was bullied by that
• 58:05
  guy, or at least hit by that guy, right?
• 58:07
  Something about like, oh, you got your lunch money taken
• 58:09
  again. I don't even know if it was
• 58:10
  lunch money, but it was something.
• 58:13
  And then they went to go. Bullying to rough the guy up?
• 58:17
  Yeah, they went to rough the guy up.
• 58:19
  Yeah. And things went awry.
• 58:22
  Things did not go how they planned.
• 58:24
  So awry which number one? Number one, when they showed the
• 58:28
  debt, the guy that the kid that ends up dying and his friend in
• 58:33
  this, this traditional house has no running water, no
• 58:37
  electricity. Right.
• 58:38
  Even though it's wired for electricity because there is an
• 58:43
  on and off switch in the bathroom or a light.
• 58:46
  So that was strange. They spilled an obnoxious amount
• 58:49
  of gas on the ground. They did.
• 58:52
  They did. And they didn't seem fazed by
• 58:53
  it. I would have been freaking out.
• 58:56
  Yeah, because that's not. That's not a few drops of gas.
• 58:59
  No, it's not. No, it was a puddle.
• 59:01
  It was, it was a big, it was a whole.
• 59:03
  Last puddle of gas and then they just they just sit in it with a
• 59:07
  lighter and light up the grill. I was like no no no.
• 59:14
  Is this just because I'm older now or is this the stupidity of
• 59:18
  youth? Or are they just more stupid
• 59:22
  than usual? I I couldn't wrap my hand around
• 59:25
  why they would still can even if they spilled that much gas.
• 59:28
  You have move move away from the gas to light up the grill just.
• 59:35
  Yeah, the reveal of the fact that Jung SU Kim Kyung Nam's
• 59:41
  character. Yeah.
• 59:42
  Came back, Oh yes and killed the guy.
• 59:45
  He came back for his name tag that fell off at some point and
• 59:48
  then he beat him to death. Yeah, was like, Oh my God,
• 59:52
  'cause like, obviously he already killed the guy.
• 59:56
  Like, I see, I I was like, I was surprised because technically he
• 1:00:00
  already had killed the guy because he was going to die
• 1:00:03
  anyway from the injuries that he already had.
• 1:00:06
  Yeah, but. They cracked his skull open.
• 1:00:10
  Yeah, to add on that layer of viciousness and the layer of no
• 1:00:17
  one can touch me, no empathy, the inhumanity, like I'm the
• 1:00:21
  rich kid no one can touch even though I'm crazy high on drugs.
• 1:00:27
  I need a best friend hired by my father to like, keep me under
• 1:00:30
  wraps and keep me into control. Comes back and just with nobody
• 1:00:36
  else. So he just goes crazy and
• 1:00:39
  actually kills this guy. I was so surprised by that
• 1:00:43
  because I thought like, OK, this dude's already dead, like he
• 1:00:46
  killed them. But to add on that layer of
• 1:00:49
  viciousness and that layer to that character was the
• 1:00:52
  surprising part for me, not the fact that he came back.
• 1:00:57
  But no, no, it was the fact that he took a freaking.
• 1:00:59
  He doubled down. He doubled.
• 1:01:00
  Basically I was not expecting the double down.
• 1:01:03
  Oh, I see, I see, I see. OK, I guess I had a worse
• 1:01:07
  opinion of the character than you did, mostly because I don't
• 1:01:11
  know. I don't know.
• 1:01:12
  I just thought he was shit. He was shit.
• 1:01:14
  Of course he'd like finish it. And it wasn't because he it
• 1:01:19
  wasn't out of necessarily malice.
• 1:01:22
  No it wasn't. No it.
• 1:01:23
  Was out of fear, right? It was out of fear.
• 1:01:26
  And he had proven himself, even up to this point in the show,
• 1:01:29
  that he was a coward. Yeah, definitely, definitely.
• 1:01:32
  So it totally made sense to me that when he kind of came back
• 1:01:35
  to life and was begging for his life and was touching him and
• 1:01:39
  stuff, it scared him enough that he started to just beat him to
• 1:01:42
  death. So.
• 1:01:43
  Yeah, because he was afraid of his father.
• 1:01:46
  He's. He's afraid of consequences.
• 1:01:48
  Yeah. Yeah, not necessarily, you know,
• 1:01:51
  justice system consequences, his.
• 1:01:54
  Father, he was afraid of his father.
• 1:01:56
  Consequences. Yeah.
• 1:01:57
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:58
  So it totally made sense to me. I was as surprised in the
• 1:02:01
  slightest. I I don't think I even blinked
• 1:02:04
  harder during that far. I was like, Yep, here we go, the
• 1:02:09
  table doing more damage. Right, right.
• 1:02:14
  I thought the kid that was hiding in the bathroom though
• 1:02:16
  was June. So for like an episode?
• 1:02:20
  Yeah, that happened to me too. I thought it was June so far.
• 1:02:23
  Yeah, that was. Like, not clear who that kid
• 1:02:25
  was. Yeah, but speaking a word on the
• 1:02:28
  kids though, in the flashbacks they were excellent at
• 1:02:31
  portraying their characters and matching the adults
• 1:02:36
  performances. Yes, and I think they I.
• 1:02:39
  Don't know if you like. Had thoughts on that or?
• 1:02:41
  Picked up on that, but. Oh yeah, I thought they did very
• 1:02:43
  well. I also thought the likeness of
• 1:02:45
  them, too, They found kids that, like, obviously didn't 100%
• 1:02:49
  match, but like, matched enough, Yeah, that you knew exactly who
• 1:02:52
  each one of them were. Yeah.
• 1:02:54
  I thought that was impressive. So going back to I think it's
• 1:02:59
  episode 7. Yeah, Episode 7 our home girl
• 1:03:04
  get our home girl journalist hospital playlist girl, she gets
• 1:03:08
  abducted, like straight up abducted by the linebacker.
• 1:03:13
  Like I have no other way to describe.
• 1:03:15
  It's just like the. Muscle, the bodyguard.
• 1:03:17
  The bodyguard in the in the Dune squad.
• 1:03:21
  And they try. He tries to pay her off.
• 1:03:23
  He tries to blackmail her with all of this evidence that she's
• 1:03:28
  been bribed as a journalist for so long, and she ends up
• 1:03:34
  returning the payoff money. Yep.
• 1:03:36
  And she says I'm known in this field for easily accepting
• 1:03:39
  what's offered to me. Everyone will be tired of it.
• 1:03:43
  Hey, it would be worth a news article if a giraffe ate some
• 1:03:46
  meat. Who cares if a wolf has some
• 1:03:49
  meat? And I was like yes girl.
• 1:03:52
  Like she has some balls on her. Oh yeah.
• 1:03:55
  She has some balls on her. This was a very slow, slow
• 1:04:00
  journey back to being ethical and moral and somewhat
• 1:04:06
  journalistic integrity or just integrity period for this
• 1:04:10
  character and her valuing friendships and the chase, like
• 1:04:16
  the satisfaction of the chase of a story more than getting paid
• 1:04:22
  off. And the money aspect and her
• 1:04:25
  feeling the weight of what Chun so was unable to say to her when
• 1:04:31
  she last saw him before he died. So I really liked that about the
• 1:04:35
  show. And that was very slow because
• 1:04:38
  she, again, very morally Gray throughout the show.
• 1:04:41
  But, you know, talking about on the opposite side, the cop, our
• 1:04:46
  cop character from G Song, his journey is also interesting
• 1:04:51
  because besides the fact that he's dealing with all the
• 1:04:54
  addiction at the beginning of the show, he's like this
• 1:04:56
  independent cop who didn't believe in friendship anymore
• 1:05:01
  and was not relying on others and didn't trust people and was
• 1:05:05
  doing all of this on his own, you know, living on his own and,
• 1:05:10
  you know, trying to make it and rise up through the ranks all on
• 1:05:13
  his own. And by the end of the show, you
• 1:05:16
  realize that he he needed all of these people.
• 1:05:18
  He needed a tribe, right? It's about him learning to trust
• 1:05:23
  people again and, you know, have friends again, make friends.
• 1:05:27
  So I liked that journey as well. I thought the password for the
• 1:05:34
  crypto account was going to be her birthday.
• 1:05:38
  I thought it was going to be Yuno's birthday.
• 1:05:41
  Yeah, I love that piece of writing.
• 1:05:42
  Cuz you, you really do. Think it's going to be DID?
• 1:05:45
  You really do think it was going to be the birthday?
• 1:05:47
  That it was going to be the birthday, and it was not.
• 1:05:50
  It was not her birthday. I love that twist.
• 1:05:54
  I loved it. And then after that, I thought
• 1:05:57
  it was going to be the SOS code 1882.
• 1:06:02
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't think they
• 1:06:05
  landed that necessarily, that the last four digits were the
• 1:06:09
  friendship day. Yeah, that was one of the small
• 1:06:15
  qualms I had. I was like, they could have
• 1:06:16
  picked a definitely a better story with that part, yeah.
• 1:06:20
  I think it should have been the SSI.
• 1:06:22
  Think so too. I like that idea more.
• 1:06:26
  I think it was a good choice to not have it be her birthday.
• 1:06:29
  Oh yeah. Because it just, it just sounds,
• 1:06:31
  it shows more of like the paranoia part of it all.
• 1:06:34
  And then it brought his widow into the paranoia now.
• 1:06:38
  But yeah, I that was one of the small issues I had at the end
• 1:06:41
  was like, I I think they could have wrote that part of the
• 1:06:45
  story better or picked a different significant date than
• 1:06:49
  that. This insurance guy had
• 1:06:51
  superhuman strength though. I love I cheered when that
• 1:06:55
  happened. When?
• 1:06:57
  He picked up like Superman picked up the prosecutor who was
• 1:07:02
  choking out, you know, and threw him across the room.
• 1:07:06
  Yeah. I.
• 1:07:08
  I have a speechless. I was like, where is where is
• 1:07:10
  this coming from? Does he compete like this is?
• 1:07:14
  Incredible. Is he high on?
• 1:07:17
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I I had so many more
• 1:07:21
  questions than answers. I was like, I don't know where.
• 1:07:23
  He just has this unbelievable Herculean strength.
• 1:07:28
  Right. Right.
• 1:07:30
  It's never addressed. Then we go back.
• 1:07:32
  And then I thought, oh, maybe I saw it wrong.
• 1:07:34
  No, then they go back and they had the prosecutor look at the
• 1:07:37
  CCTV footage, right? And you see it again.
• 1:07:40
  You see the scene again. And I'm like, no, no, no, no,
• 1:07:42
  that's that was nuts. That was actually nuts.
• 1:07:46
  Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.
• 1:07:50
  The one thing we're dancing around is who is the doctor?
• 1:07:54
  Yeah. Who was the doctor?
• 1:07:56
  Who was the doctor? And I said before our spoiler
• 1:07:59
  break that I yelled out I knew it, and my sister overheard me.
• 1:08:05
  This is what I knew from the funeral of Chun.
• 1:08:09
  So was that Four Eyes who have been calling?
• 1:08:14
  Four Eyes was the doctor. Yeah.
• 1:08:17
  I was like, that guy's shady as shit.
• 1:08:19
  I clocked him early too. What I didn't clock was how
• 1:08:23
  crazy he was. No, no, no, that was crazy.
• 1:08:26
  Like, like I did. I was like, oh, no, he
• 1:08:28
  definitely is like some bad person.
• 1:08:30
  I might not have like, clocked he wasn't a doctor until
• 1:08:33
  somebody started mentioning the doctor.
• 1:08:35
  But I was like, Oh no, he's in on it somehow.
• 1:08:37
  Like he's too innocent over here and he's too much, like, on
• 1:08:40
  screen for not to be important. Yeah, but I didn't clock how
• 1:08:45
  crazy he was going to be. It was.
• 1:08:49
  Did it work for you how crazy he was?
• 1:08:51
  Yeah, I think it worked because it was just the the audacity of
• 1:08:56
  it all was just like it was fun. I wouldn't say it was 100%
• 1:09:01
  worked for me, but it was fun. And the same with Kwan Yules
• 1:09:07
  character, the descent that he had by the end, it didn't 100%
• 1:09:12
  make sense but it was fun, at least for him.
• 1:09:16
  At least for Kuan Yew's character, it made a little more
• 1:09:19
  sense in his reasoning because he was just so arrogant by the
• 1:09:24
  end. Oh yeah, the.
• 1:09:25
  Doctor, his reasoning, especially for drugging Jason
• 1:09:29
  just was not. It was not 100.
• 1:09:32
  Like it wasn't there like I think it helped to prove it was.
• 1:09:35
  It was shaky, but it also helped to prove how insane he was.
• 1:09:39
  Yeah, he was. He didn't need a.
• 1:09:41
  He didn't need a sane reason because that wasn't his
• 1:09:44
  character. Yeah, like we need it.
• 1:09:48
  You'd think that the rest of the Doom Squad are crazy psycho.
• 1:09:54
  You know, they're willing to kill people.
• 1:09:56
  They're willing to, you know, freeze people right in there.
• 1:10:02
  What is it called? Cold storage cold.
• 1:10:04
  Storage, thank you in the cold storage and just do despicable
• 1:10:08
  things. Half of them creating this lemon
• 1:10:11
  Mulberry demand in the drug market and creating this
• 1:10:15
  business basically and the other half not realizing that that's
• 1:10:19
  what they were doing. Let alone like distributing
• 1:10:22
  outside of their organization too.
• 1:10:24
  It wasn't just them within their organization.
• 1:10:26
  They were taking bribes and distributing outside of it
• 1:10:29
  because they were all arrogant. So they they're doing all of
• 1:10:32
  this and then you have and you're like, that's crazy.
• 1:10:36
  That's they're wild. Then you have sang Sanghi, I
• 1:10:39
  think is his name sang Sanghi 4 eyes and I had clocked that's
• 1:10:44
  the doctor. But you're like, why?
• 1:10:47
  Why do this? The next question is why get our
• 1:10:51
  male lead who never heard a family addicted to drugs
• 1:10:55
  addicted to London Mulberry. You see in this crazy flashback
• 1:11:00
  that, you know, this incident happened.
• 1:11:04
  They killed this other kid in this fiery inferno.
• 1:11:07
  It burned down his whole house, and they're covering it up.
• 1:11:11
  And they just got our male lead expelled and, like, transferred
• 1:11:16
  to another school. So you think that's going to be
• 1:11:18
  the end of it? Then you see Sangy for our Four
• 1:11:20
  Eyes character go, is that enough?
• 1:11:24
  Yeah. And you're like, what the fuck?
• 1:11:25
  Wait, wait. There he goes.
• 1:11:29
  That's not enough. We need to break up June so and
• 1:11:33
  you know the the Mr. Body who eventually becomes Mr. Body and
• 1:11:39
  our journalist hospital playlist girl because they were dating in
• 1:11:42
  high school. Break them up and this group
• 1:11:45
  should have never created this club and music club audiophile
• 1:11:48
  and all the stuff so we could fuck up the club.
• 1:11:51
  This guy had June so literally vandalize his own beloved school
• 1:11:56
  club with a baseball bat and then violently cut ties with,
• 1:12:00
  you know, and he relished. It Yeah.
• 1:12:05
  And that's when you're like, OK, I think he beat all of them.
• 1:12:09
  He's psycho, yeah. This dude is insane.
• 1:12:11
  Yeah, yeah. And then you hear him spouting
• 1:12:14
  to Ji Sung and Jummy Doe the reasoning the episode. 12
• 1:12:18
  exposition dump. I don't like exposition dumps,
• 1:12:23
  but this is when he starts saying I just didn't like you.
• 1:12:26
  Yeah, also I didn't like you, but I also was was friends with
• 1:12:31
  June, so for 20 years. So I was like his biggest
• 1:12:35
  support and how dare he like includes you in the will.
• 1:12:39
  How dare that. How dare that you only talk to
• 1:12:43
  him a handful of times and he thinks you're.
• 1:12:45
  It was a jealousy thing in a way.
• 1:12:48
  Right, but it was a jealousy thing.
• 1:12:50
  But I don't know. Did Sangi for Eyes know about
• 1:12:56
  the will before June so died? No, I don't think so because it
• 1:13:01
  happened after. OK, no.
• 1:13:04
  I don't. No, I do not think he did.
• 1:13:05
  That's what I thought too, because by the time the funeral
• 1:13:08
  happens, the male lead is already addicted to lemon
• 1:13:12
  Mulberry. Yeah, so he didn't drug him
• 1:13:15
  because of the will. He drugged him, as you said,
• 1:13:17
  because he just didn't like him. He just didn't like him.
• 1:13:20
  But then he, he, I think he drug.
• 1:13:22
  Jealous of their. Collection, yeah.
• 1:13:25
  Or just the connection that Jung so thought they had.
• 1:13:30
  I think, I think it was a combination of a lot of things.
• 1:13:33
  He didn't like him in general. He didn't like that even though
• 1:13:37
  he was 20 years friendship with Jung so and like there for him,
• 1:13:41
  Jung so could not let go of the guilt of what happened to Ji
• 1:13:45
  Sung's character and was trying to make amends for those 20
• 1:13:49
  years and G Sung and he was mad at G Sung because G Sung didn't
• 1:13:53
  let him have that resolution. Yes, Never gave him forgiveness.
• 1:13:58
  So I think he drugged him first, just didn't like him because he
• 1:14:01
  wanted to kind of get rid of him so Jung so would be able to move
• 1:14:04
  on. But then when the will was read
• 1:14:08
  and then he found that out, then he doubled down and was like,
• 1:14:12
  oh, I really don't like you and I'm so jealous of you and I'm
• 1:14:16
  just going to make your life miserable and haunt you with
• 1:14:19
  this stuff. But he also wanted to use him as
• 1:14:23
  revenge because he'd been like, bullied by the Doom Squad and
• 1:14:27
  John. So for that matter, yeah, he was
• 1:14:30
  like using him at the same time to get revenge on the people.
• 1:14:33
  That was a it was all about June so for him, right?
• 1:14:36
  In a way, both in revenge, but also in jealousy and like
• 1:14:40
  wanting to get rid of them so he could have June so to himself.
• 1:14:43
  Yeah, he, yeah. Which was nuts it.
• 1:14:46
  Was about half crazy. I told me you guys can't see
• 1:14:50
  this but I'm just shaking my head with crazy eyes.
• 1:14:53
  He also, it made it sound like he and you mentioned this, that
• 1:14:58
  he set him loose right near the drug hand off in the subway
• 1:15:02
  station so that he could bust those guys that were part of the
• 1:15:07
  Lemon Millbury distribution system.
• 1:15:10
  And it would lead back to him, lead back to Four Eyes, and
• 1:15:14
  eventually lead back to the prosecutor and get at all of the
• 1:15:18
  Doom Squad, right? Found out and arrested for this
• 1:15:22
  lemon Mulberry. Trafficking thing, yeah.
• 1:15:25
  But then it didn't happen that way.
• 1:15:27
  He kept saying like, you're a bad cop, basically, you keep,
• 1:15:30
  you keep letting these guys go right?
• 1:15:32
  I keep handing things to you and like you, you can't get your
• 1:15:36
  shit together right. And honestly, it's stupid only
• 1:15:42
  because he got him addicted to lemon Mulberry, and lemon
• 1:15:44
  Mulberry is impairing him the entirety of the show, right?
• 1:15:50
  Yeah. So it's just, it's so he's
• 1:15:54
  getting upset that he can't do his job at the efficiency that
• 1:15:59
  he wants him to. But it's entirely his.
• 1:16:02
  Fault, but it's entirely his. Fault.
• 1:16:04
  Exactly. Exactly.
• 1:16:06
  Yeah, stupid. It's just psycho.
• 1:16:09
  It was psycho, baby. It was psycho.
• 1:16:11
  It was psycho, yeah. Yeah, anyway, I had questions
• 1:16:16
  about the last episode where our prosecutor, because I genuinely
• 1:16:21
  thought he was admitting to killing June.
• 1:16:23
  So yeah. Mm hmm, that was the part I did
• 1:16:26
  not like. OK, talk to me about it.
• 1:16:29
  So I wanted it to hit be him. I wanted it to be him and done
• 1:16:33
  me too. And then to have the CEO father
• 1:16:38
  come in at the very last second and be like, Oh no, it was
• 1:16:41
  actually my plan. I was like, why like it was?
• 1:16:44
  That was not needed at all. Kwan Yul did a amazing
• 1:16:49
  performance, went off the deep end, was so arrogant, was so
• 1:16:54
  good in that scene. And then four Eyes just shut him
• 1:16:59
  up, him up out of nowhere. I'm just like, Oh my God, I was
• 1:17:03
  not like I was because I knew he had the gun, but I wasn't at the
• 1:17:08
  same time. I yes, yeah.
• 1:17:10
  Just because, like, if he didn't do it, somebody in that room was
• 1:17:13
  going to either punch him or kill him because they were like
• 1:17:16
  boiling over at that point because he was just talking way
• 1:17:19
  too long. He was doing them the the cliche
• 1:17:22
  manifesto. Oh, yeah.
• 1:17:24
  Of a correct thing. Yeah.
• 1:17:26
  Because he was just so arrogant because he thought he had beat
• 1:17:28
  everybody. Yeah, So I would would have been
• 1:17:30
  very, very pleased with that ending.
• 1:17:33
  I would have been 100% OK with that ending.
• 1:17:37
  And then you had to bring in like, yes, the shoe thing was
• 1:17:41
  still bugging people. I understand that.
• 1:17:44
  But it was just like, OK, it was explained in that scene.
• 1:17:49
  It didn't really need to be investigated more.
• 1:17:54
  And then they just went down the rabbit hole of the cliche
• 1:17:57
  corruption CEO hired somebody to do the job again, which I just
• 1:18:04
  did not. I did not like That was the one
• 1:18:07
  thing I did not like at the end. I wish they had left that out
• 1:18:10
  because it wasn't needed. It was not needed.
• 1:18:12
  It didn't add anything. And because it also didn't
• 1:18:16
  really make sense for the father like it did and it didn't
• 1:18:19
  because like the on one hand, it did because he was very, very he
• 1:18:24
  was set on image. He needed a certain image.
• 1:18:27
  His company was failing. He he needed that.
• 1:18:30
  That wasn't. Just come to work out, it was
• 1:18:32
  the entire conglomerate, the group.
• 1:18:36
  Yeah, and he needed that project to work out.
• 1:18:39
  It obviously wasn't going to work out.
• 1:18:43
  So he obviously did the cliche thing and hired the person who
• 1:18:46
  was going to reveal everything. The show did a great in part of
• 1:18:50
  that reasoning, but then they also threw in like, I needed to
• 1:18:54
  protect my son, which was not believable at all, because he
• 1:18:58
  hated his guts. He hated his entire life.
• 1:19:01
  His entire life he hated his guts.
• 1:19:03
  Yeah. He was embarrassed of him.
• 1:19:06
  Yeah, yeah. And he clearly wanted the
• 1:19:08
  prosecutor. To some extent, he wished he was
• 1:19:12
  his son. Yeah.
• 1:19:14
  I loved every. Time.
• 1:19:15
  It never was going to happen. Oh.
• 1:19:17
  Not the CEO every time that old man chairman humbled the
• 1:19:22
  prosecutor. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:24
  That was always an interesting. That was a fun thing to watch.
• 1:19:27
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:19:29
  So that was the. That was literally the only part
• 1:19:31
  I did not like in this room because it just did not.
• 1:19:34
  It wasn't needed. It was.
• 1:19:35
  It was not necessary. I thought I was genuinely
• 1:19:38
  surprised when they do it like a two months later time jump after
• 1:19:43
  he gets the prosecutor gets shot in the head by four eyes and
• 1:19:48
  they still don't have the insurance payout and they're
• 1:19:51
  like, we still need to figure out who it is.
• 1:19:52
  I was like, what do you what right.
• 1:19:55
  I was like, it was not the prosecutor because he had, he
• 1:19:58
  was the shadiest 1. He was the one blocking every
• 1:20:01
  attempt at solving the murder. He didn't want the autopsy.
• 1:20:06
  He stopped the elevator before they got to the 9th floor.
• 1:20:08
  All these things really did add up that he was the murderer, or
• 1:20:13
  at least, you know, hired somebody to push him off the 9th
• 1:20:17
  floor. Right.
• 1:20:19
  Yeah. I don't I completely agree with
• 1:20:22
  you that it the chairman being the big bad of a murderer didn't
• 1:20:28
  sit right right and him having this thin reason of.
• 1:20:33
  The shoes, right, which you said even pointed out was like, yeah,
• 1:20:39
  but 50% of people don't actually take off their shoes.
• 1:20:42
  They even wrote that into the script was which was, which was
• 1:20:46
  hilarious to me. But yeah.
• 1:20:48
  They caught him in like a weird technicality and I didn't.
• 1:20:51
  I didn't appreciate that. But anyway, that's neither here
• 1:20:54
  nor there. And then I like the paycheck
• 1:20:57
  ending, though where I don't know if you've seen the movie
• 1:21:00
  Paycheck with Ben Affleck. A long time ago, I barely
• 1:21:04
  remember it. And you know what?
• 1:21:06
  I I also have only watched this movie once like 20 years ago
• 1:21:11
  when it came out but the ending has always stuck to me where
• 1:21:14
  they have the winning. Oh, spoilers for this movie.
• 1:21:17
  By the way. I guess where they find the
• 1:21:20
  winning lottery ticket, they still have it.
• 1:21:23
  Yes, yes. And so this is their winning
• 1:21:26
  lottery ticket moment, right? They have the final four digits
• 1:21:30
  of this cryptocurrency account that has all of the profits, all
• 1:21:35
  of the proceeds of the Lemon Mulberry business, right?
• 1:21:38
  And they're able to get into it and you see their reaction.
• 1:21:40
  They're super excited because not only did they get the payout
• 1:21:43
  and they're splitting it and they're giving some to the
• 1:21:45
  cheating wife and they're putting some away for this and
• 1:21:48
  that and the other had to pay taxes and all this stuff, but
• 1:21:51
  they also got into The Dirty money account.
• 1:21:55
  The Dirty money, yeah. And I really like that.
• 1:21:58
  I like that too, yeah. Because you don't know what they
• 1:22:00
  actually do with it. That.
• 1:22:01
  I like that part. You just that's that's the end.
• 1:22:04
  As you know, they got in. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:22:08
  The first part, I, I had to rewatch that scene the first
• 1:22:10
  time because when they were zooming out and it was just the
• 1:22:14
  dialogue, yeah. I, I thought they had entered it
• 1:22:17
  wrong. Or I also had thought that the
• 1:22:20
  laptop had died and I was like, wait, what?
• 1:22:23
  So I had to like, rewatch it. I was like, oh, OK, that's not
• 1:22:27
  actually what happened. Yeah.
• 1:22:30
  No, it's good. It's good.
• 1:22:32
  I think that's everything that I had in my notes.
• 1:22:35
  Is there anything else that you wanna talk about for connection?
• 1:22:39
  Because I think we made it all the way through the show and we
• 1:22:43
  talked about the ending. It was a happy ending.
• 1:22:46
  He gets clean. G Song's character gets clean.
• 1:22:50
  No more Lemon Mulberry, which I really like that name by the
• 1:22:52
  way, for the drug. So you have here, like, thoughts
• 1:22:56
  on the music and OST? I like the music.
• 1:23:00
  I thought the music was was good.
• 1:23:02
  Yeah. I thought it fit the show very
• 1:23:05
  well. I mean, it actually, it
• 1:23:07
  obviously added to like, the anxiety of watching him go
• 1:23:12
  through withdrawal symptoms. Withdrawal symptoms.
• 1:23:14
  I mean, I, I mean, I don't know, I just think of the cliched
• 1:23:19
  withdrawal symptoms. So I don't know any.
• 1:23:21
  Oh. My God, you brought up with the.
• 1:23:23
  Withdrawal symptoms or everything but like I thought
• 1:23:26
  they were extreme. So two things they were.
• 1:23:29
  Oh my God, you reminded me of two things.
• 1:23:32
  One was the freaking copico product placement throughout the
• 1:23:36
  show. I remember, I remember cuz it
• 1:23:39
  was very heavy at the end of the show.
• 1:23:42
  It was heavy throughout the show.
• 1:23:43
  What are you talking about? Like it was noticeably heavy for
• 1:23:46
  me at the end cuz. I don't understand.
• 1:23:48
  Three times in the last two episodes.
• 1:23:50
  I thought this was the biggest irony of the show is because
• 1:23:53
  this is about a narcotics unit. This is a cop getting addicted
• 1:23:56
  to drugs. They're trying to figure out,
• 1:23:59
  you know, this whole system, the lemon, Mulberry, all the shit
• 1:24:03
  and they're they're still peddling caffeine tablets,
• 1:24:08
  caffeine gum. This is legalized stimulants is
• 1:24:13
  what you're doing. I'm like, this is a drug.
• 1:24:16
  People have withdrawal symptoms. They don't have coffee like
• 1:24:19
  caffeine. People have caffeine addictions.
• 1:24:22
  I'm like, you're feeding into this addiction and shit.
• 1:24:26
  I don't understand why they would take the Coffee Co, the
• 1:24:30
  Coffee Co product placement. That was completely strange to
• 1:24:34
  me. I was like, I understand there's
• 1:24:37
  money in this, but this is diluting the message, don't you
• 1:24:39
  think? Like, I don't know and #2 every
• 1:24:45
  single person who saw G Song was like, are you OK?
• 1:24:49
  You look pale, you're sweating, your eyes are red, but
• 1:24:52
  everything. It didn't matter if they were a
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  doctor, a nurse, a coworker, someone he saw on the street, a
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  grandma who was fixing talkbookie for him.
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  Didn't fucking matter. Everybody was commenting on his
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  appearance and everybody to me was a narc.
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  I'm like, is the entire society looking out for drug addicts?
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  Yeah, I mean, that was part of the anxiety of the show too,
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  Yes. It's like it was noticeable on
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  him. Right.
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  But even when it wasn't, even when it wasn't and he just kind
• 1:25:22
  of looked a little pallid. Yeah.
• 1:25:24
  They were like, are you like? Jumping no, trying to like
• 1:25:26
  constantly feed him because it was a it was an appetite
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  suppressant. Yes, so.
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  Yeah. I did like that detail is that
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  you almost you'd never see him eat, right?
• 1:25:37
  Never see him eat. You only see him drinking water,
• 1:25:40
  stuffing pills down his gullet, and you never see him sleep.
• 1:25:44
  You never see him eat. Yeah.
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  So yeah. Really really crazy show if you
• 1:25:50
  don't want high glasses. Yeah, if you yeah, make sure
• 1:25:54
  you're ready for anxiety inducing ride, Yes.
• 1:25:58
  So obviously the the throw against the computers was very
• 1:26:02
  satisfying with the prosecutor, but what did you think of the
• 1:26:05
  slap in the next? Oh my God, I loved it.
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  Oh, that was one note that I almost didn't say.
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  Thank you for bringing it up. Because they go to the hospital
• 1:26:18
  after the cheating wife, the widow attempted murder because
• 1:26:24
  the taxi drivers on the loose, right?
• 1:26:26
  He's literally roaming town trying to get away from the cops
• 1:26:30
  and he tries to kill the widow because he thinks there's
• 1:26:34
  evidence. Whatever.
• 1:26:35
  She's in the hospital, and G Song clocks Quaniel's character
• 1:26:40
  in the face, the prosecutor, and the prosecutor hits him back.
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  But he's, you know, weak and stuff.
• 1:26:46
  He's trying to make it through another, like, withdrawal
• 1:26:49
  episode. And he just falls on the floor,
• 1:26:52
  collapses. Yeah, collapses.
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  And I love when you and Jin, the journalist shows up because she
• 1:26:59
  just walks down the hallway and she's like, like, she winds back
• 1:27:04
  and hits the prosecutor so hard. I was like, yes, girl, like
• 1:27:10
  what? Come and get him.
• 1:27:12
  Come and get this man. And she said, I just came down
• 1:27:15
  here to see who was fighting. Like she was just, Oh my God, I
• 1:27:19
  loved her character so much. Also, Oh, we didn't talk about
• 1:27:22
  this last thing, the chemistry between Tomido and G Song.
• 1:27:31
  These crime dramas, they just, they just.
• 1:27:34
  Really get you delusional about these ships.
• 1:27:38
  Yeah. Yep, Yep.
• 1:27:40
  They get you all riled up and then nothing happens.
• 1:27:43
  Yep. Because tell me why those two
• 1:27:46
  should have been married with three kinds by the end of the
• 1:27:47
  show. Right, right.
• 1:27:51
  Anyway, that's all I have to say about connection.
• 1:27:56
  Anything else? Yep, that's it.
• 1:27:57
  That's. All right, nice.
• 1:28:00
  Thank you so much for coming on, Caitlin.
• 1:28:02
  I haven't absolutely every time you're on.
• 1:28:04
  Yes. Thank you for watching
• 1:28:06
  Connection again, going on this wild ride with me.
• 1:28:10
  Before we get out of here, where can people find you online in
• 1:28:13
  case they don't know? I'm I'm everywhere.
• 1:28:17
  I have TikTok, I have Instagram, I have a blog, I have a podcast.
• 1:28:21
  You can find the podcast on Apple podcast and Spotify.
• 1:28:25
  I now have a YouTube channel under the same name, No Sleep
• 1:28:28
  for dramas #4 No Sleep Number 4 Dramas podcast, and you can find
• 1:28:34
  that and use that in all of those places to find me.
• 1:28:39
  Thank you so much, Caitlin. This was so much fun.
• 1:28:41
  And that's been our show. I'm Jessica and this has been
• 1:28:44
  the Teba Kia Rambles podcast.