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Credlin | 30 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Pido Kredlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Jamie Rodgers
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Speaker 2: filling in for Peter Kredlin. Coming up tonight. The Coalition
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Speaker 2: is rebuilding, Labor is under pressure and the political battle
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Speaker 2: is heating up. Opposition leader Angus Taylor joins me to
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Speaker 2: discuss where to for the party well. Jim Chalmers says
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Speaker 2: inflation is heading in the right direction, but has the
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Speaker 2: government become too comfortable with Australians paying more. The Royal
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Speaker 2: Commission continues to hear harrowing evidence on the impact of
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Speaker 2: social media on the rise of anti Semitism. An MP
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Speaker 2: Garth Hamilton storms out of question time over these comments.
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Speaker 3: The leader of the Opposition stood at a precipice in
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Speaker 3: front of people appointed the finger at rural firefighters, saying
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Speaker 3: that they let the two thousand and three Snow Mountains
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Speaker 3: bushfires run.
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Speaker 2: But first Labor couldn't have scripted a better day if
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Speaker 2: it tried. Instead of answering questions about the economy, housing,
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Speaker 2: government spending or the cost of living, the story became
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Speaker 2: the Liberal Party arguing with itself again yesterday on Sky
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Speaker 2: News that Liberal front bencher Melissa McIntosh was asked about
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Speaker 2: her party's dreadful polling and she put forward an idea.
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Speaker 4: I'm putting myself out on a limb a little bit.
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Speaker 4: I think it's time for the Liberal Party to rebrand itself.
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Speaker 4: Some people think that we're stuck in the past and
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Speaker 4: our policies need to resonate with the Australia of today
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Speaker 4: and the future. So I think it'd be really good
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Speaker 4: time for us to revisit our values, what we stand for,
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Speaker 4: and the way we project ourselves to Australians.
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Speaker 2: Now, whether you agree with Melissa macintosh's idea or not,
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Speaker 2: it's not the point.
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Speaker 5: She wasn't talking.
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Speaker 2: About a new logo or a new slogan. She was
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Speaker 2: asking whether the Liberal Parties it still connects with the
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Speaker 2: Australians it once represented. And it's a legitimate question after
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Speaker 2: an election defeat. But what happened next was far more revealing.
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Speaker 2: Within hours, members of her own side were publicly knocking
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Speaker 2: the idea, referring to her as comments as.
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Speaker 5: A brain fart.
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Speaker 2: And just like that, the story wasn't about Labour's record,
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Speaker 2: It wasn't on inflation, it wasn't housing, it wasn't the
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Speaker 2: cost of living. It was the Liberal Party talking about
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Speaker 2: the Liberal Party, and that's exactly what Labor would have wanted.
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Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers used question time to deflect from his performance.
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Speaker 6: Now I know that the Member for Lindsay has been
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Speaker 6: saying that they need to rebrand their values over there,
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Speaker 6: mister speaker, it's not a marketing problem over there, it's
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Speaker 6: a meltdown.
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Speaker 2: And every minute that spent debating Melissa's comments is another
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Speaker 2: minute not asking the Albanese government some very simple questions.
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Speaker 2: Why are Australians paying more tax? Why are family is
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Speaker 2: still being crushed by the cost of living, Why is
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Speaker 2: housing becoming further out of reach, Why does government spending
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Speaker 2: continue to spiral, and what is being done about immigration?
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Speaker 2: Labor ends up with a free pass. Ted O'Brien made
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Speaker 2: exactly this point on Sky News this morning.
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Speaker 7: We need to get the message through that only the
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Speaker 7: coalition has a plan and a team to make their
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Speaker 7: life easier. I mean, everybody knows, Pete that Australia's going backwards, right.
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Speaker 7: We are a poorer country, a weaker country, more dependent country.
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Speaker 7: And there's a choice that will go in front of
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Speaker 7: the Australian people. We can become poor a week or
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Speaker 7: more dependent, or we become a country that is prosperous,
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Speaker 7: one that is strong, one that is fiercely independent. Now
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Speaker 7: only the Coalition has a plan to deliver that.
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Speaker 2: And is right because that's the conversation the coalition should
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Speaker 2: be having. Now, let's compare that to Labor. Whatever you
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Speaker 2: think of Anthony Alberaneese is government. You don't see ministers
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Speaker 2: publicly tearing strip off each other every time someone floats
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Speaker 2: an idea. Jim Chalmers isn't ridiculed by his colleagues in
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Speaker 2: the press, despite handing down the worst budget in Australian
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Speaker 2: history and being completely incapable of explaining or defending it.
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Speaker 2: Labor understands something every successful political party does, and that's
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Speaker 2: message discipline. Of course they disagree behind closed doors, but
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Speaker 2: they keep those disagreements in the party room or the
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Speaker 2: public sees is unity now, whether it's genuine or not.
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Speaker 2: Because perception matters in politics. One of the great traditions
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Speaker 2: of the Liberal Party has always been that its members
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Speaker 2: are free to think for themselves. They can cross the floor,
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Speaker 2: they can vote.
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Speaker 5: With their conscience.
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Speaker 2: They aren't expected to march in lockstep the way Labor
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Speaker 2: and peas are and that's a strength it always has been.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 2: Lister Macintosh even said so this morning when asked about
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Speaker 2: the response to her rebrand idea.
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Speaker 4: That's another great thing about the Liberal Party can have
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Speaker 4: individual thought and you do have an opportunity to express
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Speaker 4: your views and that I value that as well. So
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Speaker 4: we're not always all going to agree on everything.
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Speaker 2: But voters see this as division and right now, that's
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Speaker 2: a luxury the Coalition simply can't afford. Its primary vote
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Speaker 2: is sitting at historic lows. One nation is attracting disillusioned
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Speaker 2: conservative voters. Labor has handed the opposition plenty of opportunities,
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Speaker 2: but none of those opportunities matter if the Coalition keeps
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Speaker 2: making itself the story. The Australian people don't need to
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Speaker 2: see Liberals arguing with liberals. They need to see the
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Speaker 2: opposition holding the government to account, because every day the
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Speaker 2: Coalition spends talking about itself is another day Labor doesn't
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Speaker 2: have to.
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Speaker 5: Answer for their own record.
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Speaker 2: The Liberal Party doesn't have a policy problem. It has
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Speaker 2: a discipline problem, and until it fixes that, Labor will
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Speaker 2: keep getting the one one thing it hasn't earned, another
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Speaker 2: free pass. Australians are being told to make sacrifices use
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Speaker 2: less electricity except higher costs in the name of net zero. Apparently,
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Speaker 2: though those sacrifices don't apply if you're Matt Kean. Freedom
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Speaker 2: of information documents reveal the chair of the Climate Change
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Speaker 2: Authority spent thirty two thousand dollars of taxpayer money for
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Speaker 2: a trip to Brazil for COP thirty flights alone cost
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Speaker 2: more than twenty two thousand dollars. Officially, he was there
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Speaker 2: to promote Australia's bid to host COP thirty one, which
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Speaker 2: we didn't get. But here's the part that deserves much
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Speaker 2: closer scrutiny. While in Brazil on the taxpayer's dime, mat
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Speaker 2: Kean also appeared on a panel sponsored by Walamey Capital,
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Speaker 2: the private investment firm where he works as head of fundraising.
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Speaker 2: So how can someone provide independent advice to government while
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Speaker 2: also helping raise money for a private fund investing in
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Speaker 2: renewable energy? Shadow Energy Minister Dan Teen said the optics
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Speaker 2: are terrible.
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Speaker 7: Chris Bowen needs to be able to answer, is that
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Speaker 7: good governance?
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Speaker 6: Isn't there a conflict of interest there?
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Speaker 2: Matt Kean has said that everything was properly declared, but
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Speaker 2: perception matters because while this is happening, Australians are enduring
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Speaker 2: record energy costs. Families are cutting back, choosing between eating
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Speaker 2: and heating. Small businesses are struggling to pay their power bills.
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Speaker 2: The promise two hundred and seventy five dollars reduction in
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Speaker 2: electricity prices never arrived. In its place came enormous price rises.
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Speaker 2: And let's not forget Energy Minister Chris Bowen build tax
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Speaker 2: payers five hundred thousand dollars for flights in just four
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Speaker 2: months to send officials overseas to help with his global
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Speaker 2: green negotiations. Tax Payers will also pay close to one
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars for mister Bowen's role as
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Speaker 2: President of Negotiations and other cop related activities. Now, this
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Speaker 2: is money that is better spent on our shores helping Australians,
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Speaker 2: especially at a time the shadow Energy Minister says Australia
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Speaker 2: is facing energy poverty.
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Speaker 9: This now becomes a real test for Chris Bowling. You
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Speaker 9: have to remember this is all occurring while energy poverty
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Speaker 9: in this country continues to rise.
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Speaker 5: This is about more than one flight. It's about trust.
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Speaker 2: Australians expect the people shaping public policy to be transparent, independent,
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Speaker 2: and to show some restraint. Because if we're all expected
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Speaker 2: to make sacrifices for the climate, perhaps the journey shouldn't
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Speaker 2: begin in business class. Well, let's said to Canberra Now.
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Speaker 2: For tonight's political headlines for Sky News politic reporter Ruben.
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Speaker 1: Spargo, Liberals are seemingly split on how best to improve
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Speaker 1: their polling numbers and take on one nation. Andrew Hasty
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Speaker 1: is sending a message to his colleagues who want to
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Speaker 1: work with Pauline Hansen.
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Speaker 9: I think it signals weakness.
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Speaker 1: I think it signals a lack of confidence in our values,
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Speaker 1: in our party.
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Speaker 10: We should work together to defeat Labor.
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Speaker 1: Melissa Macintosh is not backing away from her calls for
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Speaker 1: a party rebrand.
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Speaker 9: We don't need a rebrand. We just need to stand
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Speaker 9: up for the throwing people.
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Speaker 1: Labor again sought to weaponize the comments in question time.
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Speaker 1: The Treasurer is leaving the door open to a Greens
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Speaker 1: push for a one billion dollar super deal for under eighteen's.
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Speaker 1: The change would deliver superannuation to almost five hundred thousand
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Speaker 1: teenagers who work fewer than thirty hours a week at
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Speaker 1: companies like McDonald's and Woolworth's.
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Speaker 6: Oh, we didn't need the Green's political party to tell
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Speaker 6: us that this was an important issue. We're always looking
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Speaker 6: for ways to strengthen the superannuation system.
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Speaker 1: Some major retailers already pay super to under eighteen workers
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Speaker 1: regardless of how many hours they work. Labor MP Josh
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Speaker 1: Burns is calling on social media platforms to do more
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Speaker 1: to stamp out hate speech online. Is the first Federal
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Speaker 1: MP to give evidence at the Royal Commission on Anti
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Speaker 1: Semitism and Social Cohesion. Josh Burns spoke about the physical
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Speaker 1: threats he's received and the damage done to his offers.
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Speaker 11: The social media platforms are the arenas of hate.
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Speaker 1: Some social media giants, including Meta, will appear before the
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Speaker 1: Commission over the next fortnight.
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Speaker 2: The Royal Commission into Anti Semitism continues to hear confronting evidence,
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Speaker 2: with Labor MP Josh Burns taking the stand today. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: the Nationals have vowed to oppose Labour's new carbon credit approval.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is Shadow Regional Health Minister and Webster
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Speaker 2: and I do want to start with the Royal Commission,
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Speaker 2: where we are continuing to hear some really disturbing evidence,
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Speaker 2: including nine Jewish schoolgirls who say that they get abused
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Speaker 2: on their way to school every day.
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Speaker 5: What should the government.
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Speaker 2: Be doing to ensure Jewish Australians feel safe?
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Speaker 12: Well, thank you, Jamie. It is incredibly distressing to hear
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Speaker 12: the reports of what Jewish Australians are experiencing. Whether they're
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Speaker 12: year nine girls just try to go to school get
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Speaker 12: along with their lives, or whether it's people going to
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Speaker 12: hospital and fearing for their safety because of political activism
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Speaker 12: in hospitals, the absolute opposite of what you would expect
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Speaker 12: to be taking place in a hospital. And you know,
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Speaker 12: there's been a recent report in The Australian which gives
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Speaker 12: a lengthy picture of what Jewish Australians are experiencing and
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Speaker 12: have been experiencing. And the regulator OPRAH, who have just
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Speaker 12: decided recently to take on board the Holocaust Statement position
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Speaker 12: on antisemitism, the definition is the correct term of antisemitism
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Speaker 12: and the amount of political backlash and activism that's taking
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Speaker 12: place about that, I'm really you know, it's hard to
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Speaker 12: put into words just how devastating this is. This is
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Speaker 12: not the Australia I grew up in. It's not the
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Speaker 12: Australia that so many Australians grew up in and places
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Speaker 12: like hospitals, schools, shops, businesses. Every Jewish Australian should feel safe.
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Speaker 12: And this has been a huge failure of the Albanese
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Speaker 12: labor government since October seven, twenty twenty three, and everything
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Speaker 12: that has occurred since then. The really slow response about
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Speaker 12: calling a Royal commission had to be driven there by
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Speaker 12: the coalition and I just I don't know where we're
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Speaker 12: going to end up. I really hope that this Royal
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Speaker 12: Commission comes out with some very clear structures things that
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Speaker 12: need to change responses to anti Semitism when it occurs,
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Speaker 12: because I tell you why, it's really not pretty right now.
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Speaker 2: No, it's incredibly distressing when you hear the evidence from
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Speaker 2: so many different people within the Jewish community.
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Speaker 5: And I want to play to you.
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Speaker 2: Nationals leader Matt Canavan spoke today about the government's new
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Speaker 2: carbon credit approvals and the impact that it's having on forestry.
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Speaker 5: Let's take a listen.
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Speaker 1: Because of the deal they did with the Greens, we've
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Speaker 1: now got crazy as farmers all around the country completely
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Speaker 1: unsure if they are criminals or not, just for growing
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Speaker 1: their own food.
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Speaker 9: Now that's on the government's head.
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Speaker 2: And do you think we're now seeing more consequences of
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Speaker 2: doing deals with the Greens when it comes to a
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Speaker 2: case like this.
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Speaker 12: Look, absolutely, the Coalition has walked away from net zero
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Speaker 12: precisely because we want to see our food security into
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Speaker 12: the future, precisely because we want to see people be
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Speaker 12: able to afford to put on their heaters and put
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Speaker 12: on their lights. We want sensible policy. And what the
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Speaker 12: Labor government are coming up with I deals with the
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Speaker 12: Greens that lock up farmland, that have an impact on
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Speaker 12: the water table as well. When you suddenly put blue
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Speaker 12: gum forests in place of cropping land and where cattle reside,
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Speaker 12: things change for the whole landscape. And to be appeasing
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Speaker 12: the Greens with these kinds of policies is just continuing
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Speaker 12: to drive Australia in the wrong direction. And we've made
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Speaker 12: it very clear that we stand for everyday Australians who
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Speaker 12: want to be able to pay their power bills and
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Speaker 12: not face the ludicrous situation where we'll be importing timber
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Speaker 12: from overseas to build houses where we've got a shortage
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Speaker 12: of supply. I mean, give me a break. You know,
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Speaker 12: these policies are disastrous and the coalition is working really
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Speaker 12: hard on policies that will push back on Labour's current position.
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Speaker 2: You know, speaking of the Greens, I'd love to get
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Speaker 2: your thoughts on another idea that they're sort of pushing
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Speaker 2: forward with, and that's another billion dollars in superannuation for
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Speaker 2: teenage workers.
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Speaker 5: Does this show though.
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Speaker 2: That the Greens are increasingly driving the government's agenda.
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Speaker 12: Well, it could well have, because the Senate of course
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Speaker 12: has need Labor need the Greens in the Senate to
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Speaker 12: be able to pass their legislation, which they're ramming through
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Speaker 12: at the rate of knots guillotining debate. It is the
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Speaker 12: worst government that we have seen in a very, very
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Speaker 12: long time. It does concern me that these kind of
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Speaker 12: ad hoc decisions where teenagers who my kids were teenagers
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Speaker 12: at some point in time and they started earning, you know,
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Speaker 12: pennies at McDonald's, and no one's talking about slave labor here,
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Speaker 12: We're talking about earning a wage. But to try and
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Speaker 12: give adult wage for kids who are learning about money,
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Speaker 12: learning about turning up doing a decent shift at McDonald's,
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Speaker 12: I'm picking on while the Greens and probably many in
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Speaker 12: labor want to see that they have super and they
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Speaker 12: have all the benefits of being an adult worker in
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Speaker 12: the adult space. The finance area is obviously not mine
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Speaker 12: in regional health and regional comms. So I have not
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Speaker 12: heard what our side of politics is looking at yet
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Speaker 12: in terms of response to this, But just off the cuff,
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Speaker 12: it seems to me we want to train our kids
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Speaker 12: how to be good employees, and yes, they need to
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Speaker 12: be paid properly, but I think that when you go
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Speaker 12: into all the benefits, you know, these are unionized. These
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Speaker 12: are unionized frameworks that we're wanting to give abundantly to
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Speaker 12: kids who are learning how to work. I just think,
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Speaker 12: you know, we need to think about this very, very carefully.
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Speaker 2: You're spot on an I remember my mom saying to
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Speaker 2: me when I got my first ever job, how lucky
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Speaker 2: and grateful I should be that a business is.
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Speaker 5: Paying me to learn.
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Speaker 2: And I think we've sort of lost that mentality that
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Speaker 2: everyone just expects me getting the same same wages as
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Speaker 2: someone that's been there for a very long time. And
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Speaker 2: I appreciate your time tonight, thank you. Or Treasurer Jim
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Speaker 2: Chalmers says inflation is heading in the right direction, but
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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank is signaling it remains concerned. So where
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Speaker 2: does Australia go from here? Joining me now is EQ
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Speaker 2: Economics Managing director Warren Hogan.
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Speaker 5: Warren, I do want to start with.
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Speaker 2: Inflation and the Treasurer saying that it's heading in the
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Speaker 2: right direction, and it just had me wondering has the
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Speaker 2: government started to become too comfortable with higher inflation because
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Speaker 2: then that leads to bracket creep and then that's obviously
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Speaker 2: rising taxes which helps fund it spending.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, good evening, Jamie, thanks for having me on the show. Look,
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Speaker 13: I think that's pretty clear that the government sees inflation
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Speaker 13: as something that is supporting their broader policy strategy and
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Speaker 13: is not actually serious about getting it under control. Not
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Speaker 13: only did they water down the reserve banks approach to
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Speaker 13: monetary policy to make their inflation target a very hazy
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Speaker 13: long term thing, but of course we see that they
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Speaker 13: only ever take populist measures to combat cost of living
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Speaker 13: and never take the tough decisions related to cutting back
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Speaker 13: spending and trying to show some financial that will really
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Speaker 13: get the job done and that other countries around the
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Speaker 13: world have done in the last few years. So I
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Speaker 13: think that's a fair assumption and I think that's a
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Speaker 13: big part of some of the political issues that we're
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Speaker 13: seeing emerge in twenty twenty six with this reemergence of inflation.
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Speaker 5: Well, let's talk about the IRBA.
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Speaker 2: Their minutes revealed in their board meeting that they're becoming
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Speaker 2: more concerned around inflation. In your opinion, how likely do
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Speaker 2: you think an August rate hike will be now?
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Speaker 13: Well, the market has almost ruled it out. So the
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Speaker 13: minutes that were released today from their meeting two weeks ago,
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Speaker 13: which was the first meeting where they didn't.
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Speaker 10: Raise roots this year.
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Speaker 13: Confirmed that they remain vigilant, but they've we've heard this before,
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Speaker 13: and that they're worried about inflation, but also highlighting that
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Speaker 13: they're worried about the fragility of the economy, particularly the
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Speaker 13: housing market, and what that could mean for the broader
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Speaker 13: economy in the second half of the year. So the
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Speaker 13: market and many economists suggesting that this is a sign
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Speaker 13: that they're probably going to remain cautious. And of course
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Speaker 13: this is the style of this central bank, with the
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Speaker 13: mandate given to them by this government, is not again
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Speaker 13: to take the tough decisions to get on top of inflation,
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Speaker 13: and that is in this instance, to raise rates. So
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Speaker 13: I think the market's probably reading it right, that the
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Speaker 13: RBA board will be cautious. But the problem is that
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Speaker 13: inflation is not falling. Any decline in headline inflation we've
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Speaker 13: seen is that the treasurer referred to is just simply
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Speaker 13: because of a decline in oil prices and underlying inflation,
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Speaker 13: and the inflation that affects all the goods and services
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Speaker 13: we buy every day is still rising. And all of
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Speaker 13: the indicators, particularly wages growth and the main cost for
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Speaker 13: businesses in this country, which is where this inflation is
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Speaker 13: really biting, are all going up, if not potentially rising further.
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Speaker 13: So the Reserve Bank will likely hold off. We cannot
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Speaker 13: rule out the need for a further interest rates hikes
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Speaker 13: down the track, and of course the longer they leave
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Speaker 13: it and the more they get behind the game, the
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Speaker 13: more chance that they're going to see lots of interest
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Speaker 13: rate increases and of course push this economy into a recession.
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Speaker 5: Well, and I want to look into.
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Speaker 2: Labor has table to report looking at the payment sector.
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Speaker 2: They believe that Visa and MasterCard have a duopoly on
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Speaker 2: the market, and they've cited things like, on average Australian
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Speaker 2: to use a credit or debit card five hundred and
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Speaker 2: forty times a year, and non cash payment's worth nearly
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Speaker 2: three hundred billion are made every business day. Ed Husick
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Speaker 2: was speaking with Kieran Gilbert earlier today about the report.
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Speaker 11: MasterCard and Visa don't see themselves as a duopoly, but
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Speaker 11: if you ask most small businesses, they don't have much
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Speaker 11: choice when their customers are demanding either of those credit cards,
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Speaker 11: and within them is just tucked hundreds and hundreds of
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Speaker 11: these schemes fees. And so what we're saying is to
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Speaker 11: get to the bottom, make it simpler, much more transparent,
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Speaker 11: and just to cut down on a number of these fees.
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Speaker 11: We're hoping that the RBA takes.
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Speaker 9: Up that call.
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Speaker 2: What do you make of those comments and is this
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Speaker 2: now going to be falling under a KPI for the RBA, Well.
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Speaker 13: To some extent it already is that their oversight and
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Speaker 13: powers have been increased in legislation recently and they've been
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Speaker 13: very active in pursuing reform of our payment system. But
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Speaker 13: of course where they've looked at the Australian banks and
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Speaker 13: there's been changes there and everyone's going to fill them
22:39
Speaker 13: with less generous frequent fire programs and other loyalty programs
22:44
Speaker 13: as of tomorrow, and that will process is being highlighted
22:47
Speaker 13: here with master Card and Visa. And then the big
22:50
Speaker 13: elephant in the room is of course the global tech
22:53
Speaker 13: players and the digital payments like Apple pay and so forth,
22:56
Speaker 13: and that is still something that needs to be addressed.
23:00
Speaker 13: Seeing this continue, I think it's got bipartisan support, and
23:02
Speaker 13: I think the government's doing the right thing and pursuing this,
23:05
Speaker 13: and the RBA has got hopefully got the right powers
23:07
Speaker 13: to go all the way and look at the global
23:10
Speaker 13: players as well as master Card and Visa in that
23:13
Speaker 13: digital space.
23:14
Speaker 5: And Warren just quickly before I let you go.
23:17
Speaker 2: Business groups have said that labours propose thirty percent tax
23:21
Speaker 2: on trust could have an even bigger impact than what
23:24
Speaker 2: capital gains is expected to have. Do you see this
23:26
Speaker 2: as the next major fight over tax reform, Well, it
23:30
Speaker 2: could be.
23:31
Speaker 13: Let's see how, in this very difficult economy we're in
23:34
Speaker 13: right now, how these small businesses start to perform, because
23:38
Speaker 13: you know business, there's a lot of businesses are under pressure,
23:41
Speaker 13: and of course if a higher tax take means that
23:44
Speaker 13: that pushes them over the edge, then that's just another
23:47
Speaker 13: sort of kicking the guts to the business community but
23:50
Speaker 13: also to the economy. So whether it becomes a fight
23:53
Speaker 13: or not, or whether we just see the problems emerge
23:56
Speaker 13: in the next year or so remains to be seen.
23:58
Speaker 13: But it is a real issue for the viability of
24:01
Speaker 13: our small business sector and the vibrancy of our economy.
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Speaker 5: Well, Warren, I'll leave it there. I always appreciate your insights.
24:08
Speaker 5: After the break, Labor is.
24:10
Speaker 2: Facing fresh scrutiny over tax, housing and its deal making
24:14
Speaker 2: with the Greens.
24:15
Speaker 5: Can the Coalition capitalize?
24:17
Speaker 2: Opposition Leader Angus Taylor is next and later a new
24:21
Speaker 2: study shows eighty five percent of kids band on social
24:24
Speaker 2: media are still using the platforms.
24:27
Speaker 5: So is this policy really working?
24:33
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Well, the Coalition is facing questions about its
24:37
Speaker 2: path back to government, while Labor is under pressure over
24:40
Speaker 2: tax changes, the housing market and the influence of the Greens.
24:45
Speaker 2: Joining me now is Opposition Leader Angus Taylor. Angus, thanks
24:49
Speaker 2: for coming on tonight. We've got a lot to get through,
24:52
Speaker 2: but I do want to start with the blow up
24:54
Speaker 2: in question time today where we saw Garth Hamilton storm
24:58
Speaker 2: out after Christy mcba made these comments.
25:01
Speaker 3: Take a listen, the leader of the Opposition stood at
25:05
Speaker 3: a precipice in front of people. It pointed the finger
25:08
Speaker 3: at rural firefighters, saying that they let the two thousand
25:11
Speaker 3: and three Snow Mountains bushfires run. That he's absolutely shameful.
25:15
Speaker 3: I am disgusted and so are the first responders who
25:18
Speaker 3: have come into my office to complain about it. And
25:21
Speaker 3: I have a message for the first.
25:23
Speaker 10: Responders order everyone resumed their seats immediately.
25:29
Speaker 9: Now.
25:30
Speaker 2: Angus Garth was on Sky News shortly after that and
25:33
Speaker 2: he said he is sick of Labour's gutter politics and
25:36
Speaker 2: the attacks on you.
25:38
Speaker 5: Can you clarify what happened, Oh.
25:42
Speaker 14: Jamie, good to be with you. Well, it was a
25:44
Speaker 14: ballface live from Christy McBain. And we've come to expect
25:48
Speaker 14: lives from this government. We get them a constant stream
25:51
Speaker 14: of them from the Prime Minister and now from one
25:55
Speaker 14: of his ministers.
25:57
Speaker 9: I did not impugne firefighters. I would never do that.
26:00
Speaker 14: I did impune the National Parks who had badly mismanaged
26:04
Speaker 14: the Cosiosco National Park in the lead up to the
26:07
Speaker 14: two thousand and three.
26:08
Speaker 9: Fires many years ago.
26:09
Speaker 14: But I watched that at close quarters, and there was
26:13
Speaker 14: devastating fires and there was a report done by the
26:18
Speaker 14: Parliament here in the Federal Parliament that demonstrated that the
26:22
Speaker 14: National Parks were part of the problem that caused these.
26:27
Speaker 9: Fires in the first place.
26:28
Speaker 14: They hadn't managed fire trails, they hadn't done the backburning
26:31
Speaker 14: the hazard reduction they should have. There was no appropriate
26:34
Speaker 14: management plan in place to deal with this, and my
26:38
Speaker 14: point was that the bureaucracy running the National Parks were
26:44
Speaker 14: not doing their job. And frankly, it was a disaster
26:47
Speaker 14: what followed, and sadly there was a huge amount of
26:51
Speaker 14: loss from those fires.
26:53
Speaker 2: I want to move on now to Labor's widows tax
26:58
Speaker 2: and you want to force them to put the provisions
27:01
Speaker 2: in this week. The problem, though, seems to be Jim
27:04
Speaker 2: Chalmers his inability to say how this actually is going
27:08
Speaker 2: to be addressed here he was this morning on the
27:11
Speaker 2: Today Show.
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Speaker 6: That's why we're changing that so that that won't happen.
27:16
Speaker 15: Question unfortunately, because I mean, your government faces an issue
27:19
Speaker 15: about trust, right, you don't have the best track record
27:22
Speaker 15: when it comes to keeping your word. So are we
27:24
Speaker 15: just going to take you on your word this time?
27:26
Speaker 15: And I hope that you deliver.
27:30
Speaker 6: Well, that's your view, Sarah, but we've made it really
27:33
Speaker 6: clear that record this is an issue that we will
27:36
Speaker 6: address in the.
27:38
Speaker 9: I heard you. I heard you the first time.
27:40
Speaker 11: That's not just this.
27:43
Speaker 6: We've made it really clear that this is an issue
27:45
Speaker 6: that we will be addressing.
27:48
Speaker 2: I mean, angus, this isn't the first interview where Jim
27:51
Speaker 2: Chalmers isn't able to answer the question, and it doesn't
27:54
Speaker 2: really give us much faith in the process on how
27:57
Speaker 2: they're managing this budget and doing the different backflips and
28:00
Speaker 2: coming two different solutions.
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Speaker 14: Well, Jenmie, this is a tax on widows, on divorces,
28:09
Speaker 14: on victims of family and domestic violence who will lose
28:12
Speaker 14: access to negative gearing that they might otherwise have had.
28:16
Speaker 9: The government has said they want to fix it.
28:18
Speaker 14: We put an amendment up in the Senate last night
28:21
Speaker 14: and Labor voted against it. I mean, they're not serious
28:25
Speaker 14: about fixing this. They haven't been clear about whether they
28:28
Speaker 14: understood that this was a tax they were imposing as
28:31
Speaker 14: part of their broader toxic taxes which are going to
28:34
Speaker 14: hurt Australians, hurt our prosperity, hurt growth in this country.
28:38
Speaker 14: But it's an egregious tax and it's one Frankly, they
28:41
Speaker 14: could have fixed last night and they chose not to.
28:43
Speaker 9: But this is the modern labor party.
28:45
Speaker 14: And this is part of their tax grap because they've
28:49
Speaker 14: run out of money, so they're coming after Australian's money.
28:52
Speaker 2: And some of the other consequences that I don't think
28:55
Speaker 2: were intended originally that was put forward.
28:58
Speaker 5: In this budget.
28:58
Speaker 2: At the auction clearance rates now hitting historic lows for
29:02
Speaker 2: two weeks in a row, and laborers argue that these
29:05
Speaker 2: tax changes are going to make it easier for first
29:07
Speaker 2: home buyers to get into the market. What do you
29:10
Speaker 2: say about, in particular first home buyers who've already purchased
29:14
Speaker 2: their equity and are now facing negative equity.
29:20
Speaker 14: Well, there's two parts to this. So one part is
29:22
Speaker 14: what you just described. So you've got if you're a
29:25
Speaker 14: first home buyer and you've recently bought a home and
29:28
Speaker 14: the market sees a correction, as the Minister for Housing
29:33
Speaker 14: has described what may happen in the next little while,
29:35
Speaker 14: that's ten to twenty percent reduction, there's a very good
29:38
Speaker 14: chance that you'll be in the red.
29:40
Speaker 9: You'll be negative equity.
29:42
Speaker 14: That means you've done your day, you've done your money,
29:46
Speaker 14: and your negative you've actually got a loss on having
29:49
Speaker 14: bought this home, and the Government won't come clean on
29:52
Speaker 14: whether that a This is going to happen, but there's
29:56
Speaker 14: every prospect it will if the Minister for Housing is
29:59
Speaker 14: right in a the House for house price forecasts, but
30:04
Speaker 14: b whether or not there's going to be a big
30:08
Speaker 14: number resulting from this, they will, no doubt within Opera
30:13
Speaker 14: and other parts of the Government have numbers on how
30:15
Speaker 14: many people will be left with negative equity as a
30:18
Speaker 14: result of this, and they're not prepared to come clean
30:21
Speaker 14: on it.
30:21
Speaker 9: Now. This is a big issue.
30:23
Speaker 14: There's a whole second part of this, which is the
30:25
Speaker 14: clearance rates have collapsed, which is what you mentioned right
30:29
Speaker 14: up front, and so we're not seeing people getting.
30:32
Speaker 9: Into the housing market that might otherwise have got into
30:35
Speaker 9: the housing market. That's the reality. What we need to
30:37
Speaker 9: see is affordability.
30:40
Speaker 14: Affordability means that you've got to get interest rates down,
30:43
Speaker 14: you've got to get incomes rising, and you've got to
30:45
Speaker 14: get people into.
30:46
Speaker 9: A position where they can buy a home.
30:48
Speaker 14: We want younger Australians to be able to buy a home.
30:51
Speaker 14: That means getting the balance right between migration and housing,
30:54
Speaker 14: get more housing supply into the market. That's not the
30:57
Speaker 14: government's policy. They are doing the exact opposite, where it
31:00
Speaker 14: looks like they're just crashing the market and the result
31:03
Speaker 14: is we're not getting the outcomes we need.
31:06
Speaker 9: Australians are hurting.
31:07
Speaker 14: There's more pain coming down the pipeline, and that's what
31:11
Speaker 14: we always see from this.
31:12
Speaker 5: Government, Angus.
31:14
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, I do want to touch
31:16
Speaker 2: on recent polling where the Coalition was at seventeen percent,
31:19
Speaker 2: and I've argued previously that I think Susan Lee's nine
31:23
Speaker 2: months listening to her is what created this vacuum that
31:26
Speaker 2: one nation has only been too happy to fill.
31:30
Speaker 5: When you look back, was that the wrong strategy and
31:33
Speaker 5: is the coalition now having to play catch up?
31:38
Speaker 14: Well, there's no question that there's been a breach of
31:40
Speaker 14: trust over time Jomie between the Coalition and the Australian people,
31:45
Speaker 14: and the breakups of the Coalition.
31:47
Speaker 9: Obviously did not help.
31:48
Speaker 14: They heard and I heard that at the time we
31:53
Speaker 14: need to be unified, we need to be stable, and
31:55
Speaker 14: most importantly, we need to demonstrate to Australians that we
31:58
Speaker 14: have a strong plan, strong united team.
32:01
Speaker 9: We've laid out important parts.
32:03
Speaker 14: Of that plan in my budget and reply acting Labour's
32:06
Speaker 14: toxic taxes, but bringing down income taxes, the bracket creep
32:10
Speaker 14: that's hurting all Australians, the stealing from their bank accounts
32:13
Speaker 14: right now, making sure that we've got an energy system
32:16
Speaker 14: which is abundant and affordable, scrapping ned zero to achieve that,
32:20
Speaker 14: making sure that we've got young Australians being able to
32:23
Speaker 14: buy homes as I was talking about a moment ago,
32:26
Speaker 14: by getting migration down to sustainable levels, but getting housing
32:29
Speaker 14: supply up and putting Australians first. That's the plan that
32:33
Speaker 14: we believe can really move this nation forward, drive our prosperity,
32:37
Speaker 14: our standard of living and protect our way of life.
32:40
Speaker 14: But we also need to demonstrate that we've got a
32:42
Speaker 14: strong team and one nation can't provide that. Labor has
32:45
Speaker 14: demonstrated that their team is taking this country in the
32:49
Speaker 14: wrong direction.
32:50
Speaker 9: That's the job we've got ahead of it.
32:52
Speaker 14: I know we've got to rebuild trust in order to
32:55
Speaker 14: achieve the outcomes we want to achieve in the lead
32:58
Speaker 14: up to the next election, but we absolutely resolutely focused
33:02
Speaker 14: on that, Jamie, and.
33:03
Speaker 2: It's certainly making sure that you can get your messaging
33:05
Speaker 2: out there and being strong and not backing away from it.
33:08
Speaker 5: Angus Taylor. I really appreciate your time tonight. Thank you.
33:13
Speaker 9: Good to be with you.
33:15
Speaker 2: After the break, we'll cross to the UK, where a
33:18
Speaker 2: shocking inquiry found the education system isn't set up to
33:22
Speaker 2: serve white working class children.
33:25
Speaker 5: What's gone wrong?
33:26
Speaker 2: Plus, Sir Keith Starmer's likely successor, Andy Burnham, has outlined
33:30
Speaker 2: a tenure plan to revitalize Britain. Oh, welcome back, It's
33:39
Speaker 2: great to have your company. Let's head over to the
33:42
Speaker 2: UK now, where Andy Burnham is pitching himself as the
33:46
Speaker 2: man with a ten year plan to regenerate Britain, promising
33:50
Speaker 2: to shift power out of London and back to the North.
33:54
Speaker 2: At the same time, Britain is grappling with deep questions
33:57
Speaker 2: over education, class and the cost of a island support.
34:01
Speaker 2: Joining me now is Spiked online chief political reporter Brendan
34:04
Speaker 2: O'Neil Brendan, it's great to see you. Andy Burnham is
34:09
Speaker 2: selling a ten year plan for Britain.
34:11
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick listen to him.
34:13
Speaker 16: Westminster hasn't been working for people, and it hasn't been.
34:18
Speaker 9: Working for a very long time. In fact, it is broken.
34:22
Speaker 16: We will bring about the biggest rebalancing of power our
34:26
Speaker 16: country has seen.
34:29
Speaker 9: It is time for.
34:30
Speaker 16: Whiteel to accept that growth cannot be ordered from the
34:34
Speaker 16: top down. Instead, it can only be nurtured from the
34:38
Speaker 16: bottom up.
34:40
Speaker 2: So Brendan, what's the feedback bean around what Andy has
34:44
Speaker 2: said and this ten year plan?
34:48
Speaker 10: Some people are pretty uncomfortable with it. I have to say,
34:51
Speaker 10: you know, Stalin only had five year plans and now
34:54
Speaker 10: along comes Andy with a ten year plan. It's quite scary.
34:57
Speaker 10: The main issue is that he doesn't really have a
34:59
Speaker 10: mandate to do any of this. He's talking about completely
35:02
Speaker 10: restructuring politics in Britain. He's talking about rewiring Britain, shifting
35:07
Speaker 10: power around and changing how the country is organized. No
35:11
Speaker 10: one voted for him in our last general election, which
35:13
Speaker 10: was in twenty twenty four. At that time he was
35:15
Speaker 10: the mayor of Manchester, so he didn't even stand in
35:18
Speaker 10: that election to be elected to parliament. He wasn't present
35:21
Speaker 10: in that election at all. He's now swept into power,
35:24
Speaker 10: or he will do over the next three weeks, effectively
35:27
Speaker 10: in a coup. Now, of course, we have a parliamentary system.
35:30
Speaker 10: We vote for a party to run the country, not
35:32
Speaker 10: for a prime minister. But even having said that, if
35:35
Speaker 10: you're going to change the whole country radically, overhaul the country,
35:39
Speaker 10: you need the consent of the people. So the question
35:42
Speaker 10: a lot of people are asking is who you know
35:44
Speaker 10: who gives him the authority to do this? How can
35:47
Speaker 10: he sweep in with his ten year plan without being
35:49
Speaker 10: elected into office.
35:51
Speaker 2: And one thing that he has certainly done that's captured
35:54
Speaker 2: a lot of attention is this pledge to shift the
35:57
Speaker 2: power from Number ten Downing in London to northern England.
36:02
Speaker 5: How would something like that work.
36:05
Speaker 10: That's another huge question mark over all of this. I mean,
36:08
Speaker 10: he was the mayor of Manchester for almost ten years.
36:11
Speaker 10: Manchester's a great city. It's one of my favorite cities
36:13
Speaker 10: in England, a beautiful place and I don't particularly have
36:17
Speaker 10: a problem with more politics being done from there. But
36:20
Speaker 10: you know, it seems to me that he's just moving
36:23
Speaker 10: things around because if you go to Manchester, he's talking
36:26
Speaker 10: about having a Number ten in the North, so it
36:29
Speaker 10: would be a prime minister's office up in Manchester as
36:31
Speaker 10: well as the one down in London. But if you're
36:34
Speaker 10: going to do the same politics, that's a problem. You know,
36:37
Speaker 10: if you're going to do the same up north, what
36:38
Speaker 10: other prime ministers have been doing down south. Then it
36:41
Speaker 10: doesn't really make a change. It's just a different geographical
36:44
Speaker 10: location for the same kind of you know, liberal metropolitan
36:48
Speaker 10: politics that we've been lumbered with for the past twenty
36:50
Speaker 10: or thirty years. You know, this country faces huge problems
36:54
Speaker 10: to do with our broken borders, the net zero religion,
36:57
Speaker 10: which is preventing us from digging for oil and fracking
37:00
Speaker 10: for gas. The cult of welfare is out of control
37:03
Speaker 10: in this country. These are huge problems. I haven't heard
37:06
Speaker 10: anything from Andy Burnham about how he's going to address those.
37:09
Speaker 10: So whether he rules from the north or the south,
37:12
Speaker 10: the question is what is he going to do about
37:14
Speaker 10: these big problems.
37:16
Speaker 2: Well, another problem that the UK is facing is around
37:19
Speaker 2: the education system. I saw this inquiry that shows the
37:23
Speaker 2: UK is not set up to serve white working class
37:28
Speaker 2: children and their families.
37:30
Speaker 5: What has happened there.
37:33
Speaker 10: It's catastrophic. I mean, white working class boys in particular
37:36
Speaker 10: have been falling behind for so long in education. They're
37:39
Speaker 10: doing worse than almost every other group. You know, They've
37:42
Speaker 10: been left behind, they've been discarded, and I think this
37:45
Speaker 10: is the end result of the politics of identity. You know,
37:48
Speaker 10: the more that we divide kids according to their race
37:51
Speaker 10: or their background, and we say, well, you know, non
37:55
Speaker 10: white kids are oppressed and therefore they need an extra
37:58
Speaker 10: leg up, they need extra help. The more we do
38:00
Speaker 10: that kind of divisive politics, the more we're going to
38:02
Speaker 10: leave certain groups behind, especially the white working classes. It's
38:07
Speaker 10: really horrible what's happened to these kids. And one of
38:09
Speaker 10: the problems in our education system, in our schools is
38:13
Speaker 10: that white kids are constantly taught that they are privileged,
38:16
Speaker 10: that they need to check their privilege, that England is
38:19
Speaker 10: a country to be ashamed of, that we're a country
38:21
Speaker 10: steeped in empire and colonialism and you should always self
38:24
Speaker 10: flagullate for the sins of the past. Just think about
38:27
Speaker 10: being a working class kid at a school in Britain
38:30
Speaker 10: right now. You are taught to hate yourself, You're taught
38:32
Speaker 10: to hate your country, you're taught to doubt yourself, and
38:35
Speaker 10: that is really not conducive to excelling in education. So
38:39
Speaker 10: identity politics has made life a misery for these kids
38:42
Speaker 10: at school, and that's the thing that really needs to
38:44
Speaker 10: be overhauled if we're going to get white working class
38:47
Speaker 10: kids up to scratch.
38:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so sad when you read stories about that
38:52
Speaker 2: and the boys in particular that are really struggling.
38:54
Speaker 5: Let's end on a positive story.
38:56
Speaker 2: Brendan tell Us about the Princess of Wales. Catherine completed
39:00
Speaker 2: the Three Peaks Challenge in the UK to highlight the
39:03
Speaker 2: impact of cancer.
39:05
Speaker 10: The Three Peaks Challenge is extraordinary. I don't think I
39:08
Speaker 10: could do it. This is where you climb the highest
39:10
Speaker 10: mountain in England, the highest mountain in Wales, and the
39:12
Speaker 10: highest mountain in Scotland. People do it in a day.
39:16
Speaker 10: I think Catherine did it in a weekend. An amazing
39:19
Speaker 10: feat and she did it to raise awareness about cancer
39:22
Speaker 10: at which she has been suffering from, and to show
39:25
Speaker 10: that survival is possible and a new life is possible.
39:28
Speaker 10: I think it's incredibly inspiring and the message will get
39:31
Speaker 10: across to all sorts of people that just because you
39:34
Speaker 10: get a cancer diagnosis, it's not the end. Life goes on.
39:37
Speaker 10: You can still achieve wonderful things. I think she's really
39:39
Speaker 10: turned that tragedy into something inspiring and a lot of
39:42
Speaker 10: people are looking up to her for that.
39:44
Speaker 2: And there's an incredible vision of her out there. And
39:46
Speaker 2: there's a very young boy in a wheelchair whose family
39:49
Speaker 2: carried him to do the three peaks, so incredible vision
39:52
Speaker 2: for anyone that wants to go have a look. Brendan,
39:55
Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me tonight. Although after
39:58
Speaker 2: the break, employers are warning that AI is killing.
40:01
Speaker 5: Graduate job ready skills.
40:03
Speaker 2: Plus a French politician is blaming Americans' use of air
40:07
Speaker 2: conditions for their heat wave that is sweeping right across Europe.
40:15
Speaker 5: Welcome back.
40:15
Speaker 2: It's time to bring in tonight's panel broadcaster Lucy Zelich
40:19
Speaker 2: and One Nation Senator Sean Bell. Great to see both
40:23
Speaker 2: of you, Lucy, Let's start with you. Just Into Alan
40:27
Speaker 2: is already under pressure over the Big Build corruption scraandal,
40:31
Speaker 2: and now an old tweet from her husband, who's a
40:33
Speaker 2: former CFMU official, Yorick Piper, has resurfaced defending John Secca
40:39
Speaker 2: and pretty much dismissing the Trade Union Royal Commission as
40:42
Speaker 2: an ideological witch hunt.
40:44
Speaker 5: What do you think about this?
40:45
Speaker 2: Does it further undermine the premier's credibility, especially when it
40:48
Speaker 2: comes to.
40:49
Speaker 5: Integrity, Jamie.
40:51
Speaker 8: Firstly, great to be with you, but secondly, does Justin
40:54
Speaker 8: to Alan have any integrity left? I mean she failed,
40:57
Speaker 8: even under the grilling of reporters, to give assurance to
41:00
Speaker 8: the Victorian people that her office acted responsibly and that
41:04
Speaker 8: they did everything that they could to prevent CFMEU corruption
41:08
Speaker 8: when it came to big bills sites. I don't think
41:11
Speaker 8: that's that hard of a question to answer. And further
41:14
Speaker 8: to that, she's shirked all calls from credible voices, by
41:18
Speaker 8: the way, the Victoria Ombudsman being one of them, calls
41:21
Speaker 8: for a Royal commission, saying that it would delay out comes, etc.
41:24
Speaker 5: It would be too lengthy.
41:25
Speaker 8: But we're talking about some very serious allegations here. Some
41:29
Speaker 8: people have been charged and convicted already and much of
41:32
Speaker 8: this will continue to see player and dare I say
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Speaker 8: it won't be favorably based on the overwhelming amount of
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Speaker 8: evidence that we have already seen. But if all of
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Speaker 8: this wasn't bad enough, wouldn't it be great, Jamie if
41:43
Speaker 8: Victorians had a very strong and united opposition down there
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Speaker 8: in Victoria that were well placed to be able to
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Speaker 8: topple this woefle Alan government come the election in November. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 8: Victorians are also left wanting in that department too.
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Speaker 2: Sean Lucy does make a very good point about the
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Speaker 2: Liberal Party in Victoria. There were some reports coming out
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Speaker 2: tonight that they look as though they're going to remove
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Speaker 2: more Redeeming's pre selection, which means she'll be unavailable to
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Speaker 2: run in the upcoming election.
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Speaker 5: And this is after more Redeeming.
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Speaker 2: Refused to apologize to Matthew Guy over those allegations of
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Speaker 2: assault that were dismissed by police. But surely, Sean, these
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Speaker 2: are not the headlines that Leader Jess Wilson would want.
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Speaker 5: Right now.
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Speaker 17: Watching this chaos and confusion coming out of the Liberal
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Speaker 17: Party in Victoria, is it any wonder that you've got
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Speaker 17: rogue Liberal backbenches federally demanding that the party rebrank and
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Speaker 17: because this confusion of this chaos that we see on
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Speaker 17: a Victorian level is sort of it's been reflected federally
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Speaker 17: as well, where you have again rogue front benches like
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Speaker 17: Andrew Hasty declaring war on one Nation when you'd think
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Speaker 17: they should be declaring war on the alban Ezy Labor government.
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Speaker 17: And you've also got Angus Taylor, who is clearly struggling
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Speaker 17: in the polls, seemingly in conflict with New Party Press
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Speaker 17: Tony Abbott, and tonight even you had the Nationals National
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Speaker 17: Front benches Matt Canavan and Susan McDonald crossing the floor
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Speaker 17: to support one nation against the Greens, but in conflict
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Speaker 17: with their own party, and so we support and we
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Speaker 17: deeply appreciate the national support on that issue, but it
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Speaker 17: does go to a wider theme of chaos and disunity.
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Speaker 17: And at a time when you know, the Victorian just
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Speaker 17: sent to Alan government really should have its feet held
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Speaker 17: to the fire, you know, they are letting her off
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Speaker 17: the hook, and federally they are letting the alban easy
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Speaker 17: labor government off the hook. So you know, you just
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Speaker 17: want to hope that they can get their act together
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Speaker 17: because one nation, we are solely focused on defeating bad
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Speaker 17: labor governments, bid in Victoria or federally.
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Speaker 2: Lucy, I want to talk about Bonds, who recently announced
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Speaker 2: their new ambassador, Kelly Holliday, who AKA is also known
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Speaker 2: as Abby Chatfield's boyfriend. But I just want to share
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Speaker 2: some videos of what he has said previously online.
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Speaker 18: If you're going to be going out there trying to
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Speaker 18: test to keep this country, first of all, just think
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Speaker 18: about that sentiment.
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Speaker 19: You've moronic, little piece of shit. You are the biggest
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Speaker 19: loser that's walked on this earth. You are an immigrant
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Speaker 19: yourself first and foremost. This is not our land.
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Speaker 18: I think that you're protesting against immigrants. That's not even
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Speaker 18: what's going on here. This is flat out racism, and
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Speaker 18: anyone that denies that you're racist, you're a piece of
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Speaker 18: belonging to jail or worse, which I won't say, but
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Speaker 18: the main thing is you are all biggest.
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Speaker 2: So he's allowed to go out on these huge social
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Speaker 2: media rants, still gets to be named the face of Bonds.
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Speaker 2: But then, how do you compare this to what's happened
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Speaker 2: to Karl Stefanovic being sacked from Channel nine.
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Speaker 8: It's hypocrisy of the highest order. Ultimately, that's what this
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Speaker 8: comes down to, and it's really embarrassing actually for Bonds.
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Speaker 8: Kelly Holiday is entitled to his opinion, although we may
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Speaker 8: vehemently disagree with it, He's entitled to say and do
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Speaker 8: what he wants. If you subscribe to a democracy, you
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Speaker 8: will agree to disagree with people on that front politically
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Speaker 8: and regardless of what he's said, I don't want to
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Speaker 8: give too much airtime to that. But the real disappointment
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Speaker 8: for me comes from disappointment and the decision from Bonds
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Speaker 8: to allow that right because we've had people like Grace Tame,
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Speaker 8: for example, who's an Australian of the Year, go out
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Speaker 8: on the record and deny the rape of women and
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Speaker 8: girls on October seven and dismiss it as propaganda, and
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Speaker 8: then she gets the backing of Hugh Marks over at
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Speaker 8: the ABC, the defense of Hugh Marks, and she still
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Speaker 8: gets to keep her platform. Right, Kelly Holiday says what
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Speaker 8: he says about really good decent Australians right who wanted
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Speaker 8: to march with this country, who aren't marching because they're racist,
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Speaker 8: They're marching because the she volume of immigration is putting
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Speaker 8: pressure on our country. But he's allowed to go and
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Speaker 8: say those things and wish for their death. But Karl Stefanovic,
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Speaker 8: who then sits in a podcast, Granted, you can like
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Speaker 8: all Oath Tommy Robinson, but if you bother to listen
45:56
Speaker 8: to the vast majority, if not the entirety, of his podcast,
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Speaker 8: he makes some very clear points, chief among them the
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Speaker 8: circumstances surrounding his arrests and why he was jailed from
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Speaker 8: his perspective, but also points to the fact that he's
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Speaker 8: a jailed man. We have sports stars careening into cars
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Speaker 8: and injuring mothers and their four year old children who
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Speaker 8: were given a slap on the rist a nine game
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Speaker 8: ban and then allowed back on a footy field. But
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Speaker 8: Karl Stefanovic sits down for a podcast with someone that granted,
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Speaker 8: some people think he's divisive, and all of a sudden
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Speaker 8: he's forced to resign and will be stripped of any
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Speaker 8: support or endorsements or opportunities with other broadcasters.
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Speaker 5: It's a joke.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're certainly losing the ability and society to just
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Speaker 2: have a debate or differing ideas. Sean, it does take
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Speaker 2: me to employers who have recently said university graduates are
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Speaker 2: just relying too much on AI, that they need more
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Speaker 2: practical workplace skills like communication and critical thinking.
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Speaker 5: What does this say about our school system?
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Speaker 17: I don't think we need to use chat GPT to
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Speaker 17: understand that the Albaneze labor government is completely letting our
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Speaker 17: young people down. They're letting our universe, the students down,
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Speaker 17: because they have let the curriculum become infected with woke nonsense,
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Speaker 17: well nonsense, be it climate alarmism, be it gender ideology.
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Speaker 17: Government is more focused on the brainwashing of our children
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Speaker 17: than ensuring that they have the skills needed to be
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Speaker 17: productive members of society, which is why we're seeing a
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Speaker 17: collapse in productivity. Instead of this woke nonsense, what we
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Speaker 17: need to be doing is making sure that our children
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Speaker 17: have the skills to do the jobs that we need
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Speaker 17: to power this economy. We need to be focusing more
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Speaker 17: on reading, writing, and arithmetic and ensuring that we have
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Speaker 17: children doing the trades we need because we're constantly talking
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Speaker 17: about a skills shortage. So it's no surprise that children
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Speaker 17: are coming out. Young people are coming out of universities
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Speaker 17: and they're not equipped to do the job they are
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Speaker 17: leading on AI. It's completely unsurprising because it's where the
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Speaker 17: Albanezy Labour government is.
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Speaker 2: Letters and Lucy, just very quickly before I let you
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Speaker 2: both go. Who would have thought air conditioners would create
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Speaker 2: a culture war between the Paris and us?
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Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, can you believe that we're in this situation.
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Speaker 8: We used to extreme temperatures in this country and we
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Speaker 8: rely very heavily on our air conditioners.
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Speaker 5: But they love to.
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Speaker 8: The climate alarmists love to point to the amount of
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Speaker 8: deaths that they have in Europe in these summer and
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Speaker 8: very warm months.
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Speaker 5: But here's the secret.
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Speaker 8: If you did have an air conditioner and you could
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Speaker 8: cool your house down, maybe it would be, we'd be
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Speaker 8: avoiding a lot of those things. It's insanity of the
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Speaker 8: highest order.
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Speaker 2: Yes, spot on, especially only twenty five percent of the
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Speaker 2: country in France users air conditioners.
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Speaker 5: Who would have thought, Lucy and Sewan, thank.
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Speaker 2: You so much, well, thank you for your company. Tonight
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