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'Punk, Art & Absolute Riots' w/ Rebecca Radical · You Call That Radio?

• 0:03
  Speaker A: As you call that radio. We live from the Scottish AES, we have the phenomenal Rebecca Radical on the show today. So we're going to go live to the Kingdom of Faith. Rebecca's celebrating the release of her new album with her band, Absolute Riots. And, yeah, let me know how it sounds and looks, because we are. We've got a news studio set up, as you can see. Oh, got a radio. If you're listening to the audio podcast, I've just pointed to a radio since I should call that radio and the Globe. But they're going to be new microphone, new lights are real. Yeah, it's going to be real in a few days, but we're doing the best we can. And I think we can go live now to Rebecca Radical, who looks like she's. We've got a power. Who's that?
• 1:05
  Speaker B: That's my. We catch you saying hello me, though. Say hello. How you doing?
• 1:14
  Speaker A: I'm good, I'm good. I'm. I'm an island boy. I'm in that. I'm in a. And yeah, it's good. It's weird, but it's good. So, yeah, just. Yeah, I. It's not about you. It's a bit. It's a bit. It's about you, Rebecca. It's about Absolute Riots. New album out this week. Can you tell us a bit about that?
• 1:43
  Speaker B: Yeah, I. So we actually recorded it probably a year ago or something and we've done like. We mixed it ourselves, so we've done a few different versions, every track, and it got to the point where we just listened to a wee bit too much or like, right, choose a date. We got offered to play a gig of incredible band, spit back and deep 12. So we're like, right, that's album launch. We've released it. Right. We've played these tracks for, yeah, about a year and a half or something. Really proud of them. They're all very different and I feel like the guys are such good musicians, I can basically lend them my imagination and it just seems to work. So, yeah, I really tough it.
• 2:26
  Speaker A: Yeah. So it's a great album. I'm just going to put the Band Camp link in the comments for people to check it out as well.
• 2:31
  Speaker B: Thank you.
• 2:31
  Speaker A: Ali's in the house. Sounds great. Thank you. I have got. Just before I went on, just before you went here, I've been trying to fix this microphone. It's not working. So we're just using our best here. We're doing our best. This is the Band Camp link. It's actual dance Beats. It's called. Why? Why? Why the name?
• 2:53
  Speaker B: Because we were doing a practice one day and I said, bob, can I get an actual dance beat, please, as a joke. And we're just fucking stuck. I think we're hilarious.
• 3:03
  Speaker A: Absolute Rise is a name that is a great name for a band.
• 3:07
  Speaker B: Thank you.
• 3:08
  Speaker A: Can you explain to people who maybe aren't, maybe an international audience what absolute right is?
• 3:15
  Speaker B: It's one of those, I'd say, colloquial at the time. It is, isn't it? It could mean a number of things. It could just be somebody who's like a bit out there or something. It could be somebody falling about drunk. It could be in my head. It's just somebody who's like, really in your face and absolutely right. Whatever that entails.
• 3:35
  Speaker A: It could be. It could be a compliment.
• 3:37
  Speaker B: Yeah, of course. Yeah. Absolutely right then. Absolutely boring.
• 3:43
  Speaker A: Like the rooster. I don't know. I don't know.
• 3:48
  Speaker C: For.
• 3:48
  Speaker A: People don't know. This is from. You know, I'm from West coast, just west of Glasgow, and this is. Fife has got his own. Its own language at times. So we. So absolute rooster. Good.
• 4:01
  Speaker B: Mean.
• 4:02
  Speaker A: It could be a. A derogatory term or it could be, oh, it was a roaster. Something good happened. It's just about how you say it. So it's funny you say that. I love an absolute right to me is not necessarily a negative thing, but it could be just talking to your good friend and saying, you were an absolute riot last night. And don't worry, you were funny.
• 4:23
  Speaker B: Hilarious.
• 4:24
  Speaker A: Yeah, you were hilarious, but you were an absolute riot.
• 4:28
  Speaker B: It's funny you say about roaster as well. There's a phrase I love and it's like, I've never bred coffee, but I. But I am an independent roaster. So.
• 4:38
  Speaker A: Yeah, I. I was in a. A coffee shop in Mount Florida and it was like the guy kept on. I don't know if the guy was in the joke about roosters, but he kept on saying the word rooster. You know, they're the best. Oh, yeah, our coffee's good. Get it from the best rooster. And I don't know if he was in the joke, if he was trying to make me laugh. He must be. I mean, obviously it's a rooster's a rooster. And it's. So the. The album's out. It's brilliant. We're going to play with a little bit of it in a wee second. I'm sure that for people that don't know. But the. You've had the solo EP as well. You do a lot of things. So for people who don't know Rebecca is. It's great. I was trying. I was trying to quickly describe it because obviously we just decided to do this interview just a few hours ago. So it's like punk, rapper, artist, singer, songwriter. And I think I ended up writing something that sounded like I generated it by AI because I was like punk, rapper, singer, songwriter, artist, which is probably not a real phrase. How would you describe. How would you describe it?
• 5:43
  Speaker B: I just say I'm multi passionate. The things I do, I just love. I wouldn't like to assign any labels. I struggle with assigning labels initially. I think, anyway, there comes a point where I'm like, right, okay, I've done too many things now. It'd be dishonest to say I'm not that. But otherwise it doesn't bother me. I don't really think about it. I know that's probably not helpful, but this.
• 6:08
  Speaker A: How do we. How. How do you decide what to really. You've actually been quite good and quite consistent with just sticking to your name and, and embracing the multifaceted thing. It's a. It's an ongoing issue that I noticed. I think, especially as I'm seeing people getting older and they've maybe just totally changed their musical direction, that they want to have a side project name and that can be good. But where's the line? Because if you're going to. If you're going to change your name every time you make something a bit different, then you've just got to be what you would have. You would have about six names. Been there.
• 6:44
  Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. I think I did. I did go between having another name actually for the more rap stuff. And then I was like, no, I've already at least a few tracks attracts under that name anyway, so what's the point? Just go for it. As you say. There's no point in dilating it further. It's already hard enough to get the music out there.
• 7:02
  Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. I'm just. Well, I've got. I'm about to do that. I'm about to do that. I've got some new projects, I'm just going to change.
• 7:10
  Speaker B: I'm sure they'll be great.
• 7:12
  Speaker A: Well, the reason that I pick Jackal Trades was so that I could do anything I wanted outside. But then I just ended up making four hip hop albums. So I feel like if I'm going to do something that's not hip hop, it should be. It should have a different name. So anyway, not later, but it's not. It's not all about me. We're going to play a song. So for anyone who's tuned in, it's maybe new to, to the stuff you do. So obviously you've done lots of dance tracks, you've done lots of hip hop, you've done lots of poetry, you've done lots of acoustic music and. But obviously regardless of what you do, there's always a. A total DIY punk ethic that comes through and it's so. It's actually, it's quite interesting because although I would describe you as punk as. Or punk is five I think. Am I right? And saying this is probably the first time that you've actually did a punk album. Like, like a traditionally sounding sort of punk album.
• 8:08
  Speaker B: Yeah. And even then I think we're definitely stretching what traditional punk album means, aren't we? It's got sort of punk underpinnings but I think all of us have got favorite kinds of music. But we're all very open minded so naturally just all these different things come out. Really. Yeah, I think that I was in a band after and we played like more like three chord punk stuff and that was really fun. But we never released anything.
• 8:40
  Speaker A: Yeah, I don't even. I don't even know if I've seen these live. I think I just seen some, some, some videos. But. Yeah, but absolute rights. Let's just listen to every tune here just now. So this is called Predictable. Do you want to give us a little introduction?
• 8:58
  Speaker B: What's about so Predictable is one of those ones. There's a lot of people in the punk scene who believe that things should be run certain ways, but they don't realize they're the only people upholding that. Being gatekeepers, just deciding what is and isn't punk. Things like this, and this is a big fuck you to them. You know, people who slag people off or listen to Green Day or say you're too young to be listening to a band. It's just so much of it within the scene. And yeah, this, this just makes me laugh. I'm just being a widow to those kind of people.
• 9:29
  Speaker A: Do you ever get the. The man explaining six music? Duh. Coming up and questioning your T shirt choice. Does that. Is that a real thing? Name three songs. Name three songs.
• 9:43
  Speaker B: My favorite is. Is that a New Model Army T shirt? You're too young to be listening to New Model Army. And I'm like, I seen them literally last year. They never stop, mate.
• 9:54
  Speaker A: I've got a BE T shirt on. Name three songs. Maybe said that to Me, I don't have a.
• 9:59
  Speaker B: Can you name three Beatles songs? I don't think, to be fair.
• 10:02
  Speaker A: Yeah, I. I didn't think you'd be a Beatles fan. I got this from the charity shop. So just. Just to clarify. Against the Beatles. The Beatles, they kind of. I don't have a strong opinion on them, I think because they've just always been there, you know, My parents listen to the Beatles. They've always been there.
• 10:17
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 10:18
  Speaker A: And it's cool to say the Beatles are shite, though I wouldn't have bought a Beatles T shirt. And I'm also not wearing that ironically either, if, you know, it's just that I moved to an island with a rucksack, so I had to. I had to do something. So would you consider the Beatles punk?
• 10:37
  Speaker B: I mean, they did what they wanted today, didn't they? So for me, doesn't mean it's not, you know.
• 10:45
  Speaker A: Is that your definition of punk?
• 10:48
  Speaker B: Yeah, if it's authentic, that's punk rock.
• 10:53
  Speaker A: And this is authentic. This is predictable. And it's about the bad. The. The bad. The bad gatekeepers that listened. I've listened to the same kind of punk their whole lives. And anything that goes out that it doesn't look like that or sound like that, they just say that that's not punk. Am I right? Is that a correct description?
• 11:15
  Speaker C: Right, okay, let's listen to the tune.
• 11:25
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Don't do politics just want to get pissed.
• 12:14
  Speaker C: Passion is our providing not the issues discussed on it.
• 12:20
  Speaker B: Predictable pitch.
• 12:26
  Speaker C: So easy for us these days with our Internet phones and such. Just watch entire country.
• 12:43
  Speaker B: So just. So.
• 13:20
  Speaker C: 77 is SA Rule 1. Do yourself and not my dad. Do yourself, not my dad. Do yourself and not my dad. Do yourself and not my God. Do it yourself and not my God. Oh, my God. Not my God. Why are here happy 77. I said now anyone can dress like S. Matches me.
• 14:55
  Speaker A: Amazing stuff. Brilliant. Predictable from the absolute right. Sorry. Absolute rights. New album, actual dance beats. Because it has absolute rights. It's better than being the absolute rights. Is it? But.
• 15:14
  Speaker B: It sounds like you hear them coming if it's there. Absolutely. Right. Yeah.
• 15:19
  Speaker A: But, yeah, amazing. So, yeah, it's on band camp. You got. Are you doing any physicals? You usually have a art and stuff?
• 15:28
  Speaker B: Yeah, I've actually. I've been working on some prints I've been drawing.
• 15:32
  Speaker A: Let's see.
• 15:33
  Speaker B: And also that I've got the painting that I use for the COVID too.
• 15:39
  Speaker A: Oh, that's amazing.
• 15:45
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 15:45
  Speaker A: Oh, superb. So that's. Is that the album cover?
• 15:50
  Speaker B: No, the Album cover is slightly different, but I do have the actual painting of that, so I was thinking about doing a print of that as well.
• 15:57
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I've got. Your cat's taken over.
• 16:06
  Speaker B: Just come and say hello. Yeah.
• 16:12
  Speaker A: Yeah, the. I'm just. I'm just looking. I'm just bringing up the album cover just now. I've got the. What's the. The artwork I had. I've just not actually had it up because I've not. I've been. In fact, it's in Tamsis. The eye.
• 16:30
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So what else are you saying? I'm trying. Yeah.
• 16:42
  Speaker A: You know the eye artwork.
• 16:44
  Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah. I don't know if we're gonna get physical copies made either, but we might do. I might do like some sort of DIY thing where there's like really cool wee bits of merch and stuff.
• 16:55
  Speaker A: Yeah, well, the thing about it. The thing about it is if you. These CDs is that people will buy the CDs and they won't even play the CDs.
• 17:04
  Speaker B: So. Yeah, that's true.
• 17:06
  Speaker A: If you just. Well, some people do. I. I buy the CDS just to support and. But I don't. I don't tend to listen to it. You're not. Are you deliberately not doing the streaming platforms?
• 17:18
  Speaker B: No, I did it to the streaming platforms too. Right.
• 17:21
  Speaker A: Absolute right.
• 17:22
  Speaker B: Streaming platforms, apart from all my tunes. And I think.
• 17:25
  Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, brilliant. So it's everywhere. But.
• 17:28
  Speaker B: Yeah. Should be able to ask Alexa. Alison. Absolute right.
• 17:35
  Speaker A: I've not got an elixir. I don't think maybe I've just moved. I found that I've got a fire stick last night, so I can't.
• 17:43
  Speaker B: Shouldn't be saying that online.
• 17:46
  Speaker A: No, it's not. It's not. It's all legit and above board and I've got. And I've got a YouTube Premium account that I pay for and I had to do that because I didn't. Because I had that blocker on my laptop and then I don't know how to do ad blocker on fire sticks. So I just paid for YouTube Premium. And I wouldn't go back, to be honest. It's. I can't handle adverts. Life's too short for adverts.
• 18:12
  Speaker B: No, there's so many on YouTube as well.
• 18:15
  Speaker A: I try not to have that. So I don't know. Let me know if you ever see an advert on my show. Let me know in the comments. Because I. I took it so that there's no. There should be no mid rolls. Sometimes you may get it at the start of how you call that radio show. And that's because when I turned it off completely just because. I mean, the advertising money, we do monetize, but the money is so. It's nothing, it's pennies. So I'd rather just maybe watch his adverts. But YouTube just takes the revenue and doesn't advert at the start anyway. So I think you make an advert at the start, but there should be no adverts during this show. If there is, let me know so I can complain to Google or something. Ali says, get that cat a record deal. Great tune. Rebecca from Blackbird and Crow says, oh, I like this. That bass.
• 19:09
  Speaker B: Hey, awesome. He has some basis.
• 19:13
  Speaker A: And Leslie really love the way you sing. Amazing voice. Thank you to Leslie. And Huey is in the house. I saw an interview with Patty Smith recently and she said punk, for her meant freedom as an older person. That's what punk means to me. Freedom to do what you want, not a rules form of music. So it's quite interesting because we got. When. When we were starting it as a band, we would get older, people come up to us and go, that's the most punk thing I've seen in ages. But the punk scene never. Never embraced us, to put it mildly. But I would really start. I was, you know, just like a. A skinny guy for the steamwear, a trip in a track he's on and stuff, which is actually that. That's now with the. The hipsters were the.
• 20:04
  Speaker B: That's.
• 20:05
  Speaker A: It's a thing doing it.
• 20:07
  Speaker B: But to be fair, that is punk as like, you clearly didn't give a. You're only trying to be punk rock.
• 20:12
  Speaker A: So I didn't know I was. I didn't know it was Dean.
• 20:15
  Speaker B: It makes sense to people that are trying hard to be.
• 20:18
  Speaker A: It wasn't like, I'm good. I wasn't thinking, I'm going to do what I want. I was thinking, I don't know what I'm doing. And that's just happened. I was just wearing the clothes that I wore about. About where I lived. And. And also I think the punk thing, it wasn't like deliberate. It was just. I was just about. I was just a bit shouty.
• 20:39
  Speaker B: No, you've got.
• 20:44
  Speaker A: There was a lot of attitude in that band because that was probably as well in hindsight. We were drinking before it and I think we were actually nervous, but I didn't know that we were nervous until I actually played a gig with no alcohol. Well, I started slowing it down and then I Noticed the buzz you got. So. Yeah, I don't. I maybe have a paint before I go on stage now, but you want to feel the nerves. You want to feel that. You want to feel that buzz. What is your take on that? Do you. Do you partake before you go on stage or how do you do it?
• 21:16
  Speaker B: Yeah, when I first started, for sure, it was definitely nerves. My original plan was like a wee half bottle, but then that graduated to like actually just down in a bottle on the way through to a gig or whatever. So I just. I tend to have like a pint or two now before that, but I keep an eye on that. Don't get too drunk because as you say, you're just like nervously drinking. It's not even like you're conscious how much you're consuming. You're just that excitement, you know, trying to put your energy somewhere.
• 21:46
  Speaker A: Yeah. And it's a long. It could be a long wait between sound check and the gig starting. And if you're. Yeah. If you're nervous and you're thirsty, it can. It can happen quite quickly. The. The trick I found is just. I was just waiting to one. The band goes on before you and then have one drink with that. But this. Then I. Then I played the Guy Dumfries, which is 0% lager. No, in fact, they didn't. They ran out 0% lager just before I went on stage. But the only thing in the R was whiskey. And I went, no, I don't drink. You know that. That, that if you ever see me drinking whiskey that send me home. That means I'm too drunk to be out the house. Never mind starting on the whiskey.
• 22:29
  Speaker B: Yeah, I like to Rejram. That whiskey is one of the ones that's. You're funny. Yeah, it's not.
• 22:35
  Speaker A: It's. No, it's not. It's not good. It's not good for the next day. Anyway. So with. With the. The band. So somebody's mentioned, I think mar the base. So who's the. Can you tell Introduces to the rest of the. The rest of Absolute rights.
• 22:51
  Speaker B: Yeah. We've got Ben and Bob.
• 22:53
  Speaker A: My picture here. For anyone listening to audio podcast. We are now looking at a picture of absolute rights.
• 22:59
  Speaker B: Yeah. So Ben is on the base. He's honestly incredible. So good. And then we've got Bob on the drums. He's. They're both in different bands as well. Like Ben is in Skellies and Bob is in too many bands to name to be honest. But he's also like a pillar of the Glasgow scene. He puts on gigs under the DPRN name. Like certain noise shows and things like that.
• 23:29
  Speaker A: Noise shows?
• 23:30
  Speaker B: Yeah. No, I know. I think I'm gonna need to put the headphones in.
• 23:37
  Speaker A: So tell, tell. So shout out to the guys. They've done a great job and just it's, you know, they've made a brilliant canvas for you to. To do your thing. And, you know, you take us on a journey through poetry, hip hop and a very soulful voice and an angry voice when you want as well. So it's just. You're basically doing what we just talked about. There's a total freedom of expression when you're. When you're performing and what you're just doing whatever the hell you like. Where does that come from? I mean, obviously I know that you are the person that can name three, three songs from any band of the T shirt that you wear. So it's been embedded in music your whole life or that you wanted to be a performing artist come from.
• 24:29
  Speaker B: To be honest, the idea of me performing came quite late, but I've always. I was brought up listening to music and stuff. I went to our first festival when I was like 11. 12 was a wicker man. I saw bands like Dread Zone Penetration, Bad Manners, oh, the Dickies. Like, it just totally opened my eyes and there was no looking back for that. We used to go to gigs, underage in some places and leaving, I won't say and see bands again, like one way system. And you know, these are like proper traveling bands I got to see as a teenager. There's really hard to like take yourself away for that once you see that it exists and you love it as you know yourself.
• 25:12
  Speaker A: Yeah. Tell us about the Kingdom of Faith. It seems, it seems there seems to be lots of great bands from Fife, but it's also quite. It's a big place and it all seems to be quite far apart from each other. So you've got. Can you just give us a rough rundown of the. The hubs of. Of Fife.
• 25:35
  Speaker B: Oh, there's so many good bands in five, to be honest. I would say as well that there's like a good variation of different like genres and stuff. I think that because there's a lot less people or the band sort of jump on the bills together a bit more fairly here, if that makes sense. Like you'll see loads of scarab bands and stuff. I'm trying to think way too many to name. I'd be missing something.
• 25:56
  Speaker A: No, no, just. Just more like. What about the, the actual. The Sort of the. The hubs rising like the venues and. Or the areas. Because like. So, because right now we're actually. I'm actually genuinely a wee bit curious. We played fife a few times. We played methyl. That was a. That was a mad night. It was. It was it with everyone was 23 different types of people. There was about maybe 20 people that came to see us, so they're going mad at the front. Then there was maybe about another 20 or 30 that were just had their arms folded like. Impress me. Nobody hit nod in their head, but it just got impressed about another 30 people just watching the football and they didn't give a. But, yeah, I enjoyed Methyl enjoy and played them firmland. We're gonna face a couple of things but the. Yeah, what. So if we're wanting to play five, because we're kind of just sort of about to go in hiatus. So if we were to play five would be. Have to do Dunfermline and Kirkode or leaving or what. How would we. Is it. Is there a central hub or is it just too far apart? Did you need to play a couple of gigs to do it properly?
• 27:03
  Speaker B: Kirkcaldy is quite a good place to be honest. Like you've got the Windsor Hotel, that's a great wee venue. You've got the King's Theater as well. Trying to think. Yeah. But I was gonna say like the train goes right the way through to leaving now as well. So it definitely wouldn't be a bad thing to go even like Glenn Office or something like that if you wanted to get all the weird, weird towns involved.
• 27:32
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 27:35
  Speaker B: Oh, I'm trying to.
• 27:38
  Speaker A: Changed things because I remember the excitement of this train and for this train to happen.
• 27:45
  Speaker B: Well, I'm not. I've not actually used it yet because I don't live there anymore. But I'm very excited for the first time I jump on it. Like I reckon that really will make a difference, to be fair. Like one of the main reasons that I made further a little bit was because there was a train station here. I mean, I don't use it that often, but worst case, like last buses, things like that are useless. So you've got more chance. I train for sure.
• 28:08
  Speaker A: And you, you are a commuter because you're always at the gigs, whether it's Edinburgh, Glasgow. So is five you've kind of got, is it six and a half a dozen? Whether you're going to get an Edinburgh gig or a Glasgow gig.
• 28:20
  Speaker B: 99% of the time go to Glasgow. But if they're only playing Edinburgh Then I'll go there.
• 28:27
  Speaker A: Why? Why? Why would you choose Glasgow over Edinburgh?
• 28:30
  Speaker B: I'm saying nothing. I like Glasgow. Like I spent. I spent a lot of time going to gigs in Edinburgh as well. It's just a totally different vibe, I think. Like, I love. There's a couple of really good pubs in Edinburgh and it's all in like one street. And Glasgow's a bit more like. There's really cool pubs like spotted about and stuff. That may just be. I don't know enough of Edinburgh.
• 28:54
  Speaker A: But I think also Edinburgh Council is absolutely gutted out the. The DIY scene for brown envelopes and their focus is Edinburgh Fringe because Edinburgh Fringe makes so much money for them over in August that they just don't seem to really care about culture the rest of the year. So it's just. Just like Edinburgh's a little playground for rich people for London to spend mommy and daddy's money on starting an improv comedy team or something.
• 29:29
  Speaker B: Absolutely. People fed and Brad don't like Edinburgh anymore, so.
• 29:33
  Speaker A: Absolutely not. And yeah, sure, if you wanna. If you want a more succinct commentary on the state of culture in Edinburgh, then check it Prince Bob's channel. Yeah, he'll explain it better. And it's also. It's better coming for him because he's free. Edinburgh otherwise. Otherwise like a place that the. The rivalry. I don't know if we'd call it rivalry because Glasgow's just better and I think. But Edinburgh's nice. Edinburgh's pretty. It's a nice place to go. In fact, I will watch. We were playing Edinburgh November 14, of course. No, it's pretty. It's good. The people are good. I love Edinburgh. I love Edinburgh. Just clarify that. I love Edinburgh.
• 30:19
  Speaker B: I actually seen that China shot Biller awesome as well. Yeah.
• 30:24
  Speaker A: Have been around forever and they still look a bit 25. I don't know what they're doing but playing Scar Rock. Scar hip hop or whatever. So yeah, I'm looking forward to catching up with you guys again. And then also Victor Pope and also a band called Pow. I don't know if you know Powell, but I've just. I wasn't familiar with them before but they sound great. They've got a song called the Pow Anthem that was listened to absolutely brilliant. So yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing them for the first time. So what was absolute right coming up?
• 31:02
  Speaker B: Nothing at the moment actually. We sort of play gigs sporadically. We practice maybe twice a year. Hopefully this album coming out will like push us today. Hangs. We've just set up social media accounts so.
• 31:17
  Speaker A: So you're going for it? You're going for it?
• 31:20
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 31:21
  Speaker A: You're on Instagram?
• 31:22
  Speaker B: Yeah, we've just joined Instagram and stuff like that. I will keep on talk about. We've got loads of cool photos and stuff from previous gigs. We have played some really cool shows so far.
• 31:31
  Speaker A: So what's the best show you've played together?
• 31:38
  Speaker B: Oh, it's a hard one. I think maybe the Meteor show because that was just like the most surreal gig. Did not expect to be playing with the Meteors. Never mind. Not with like a psychopili band. It was really good. But every. Every gig is really special for different reasons.
• 31:57
  Speaker A: And so the launch night was a block last week. I was sad to miss that. I was on. I was on an island. But the. I heard they went really well. Jenny who plays drums with Gyros also plays with Deep Fil who are playing and they said it was. Jenny said it was amazing as well. So what was it? What was the vibe like in Blog Blog separately Pub.
• 32:16
  Speaker B: Oh, the gig went amazing. I really wasn't expecting it to be that mob, to be honest. Like everybody was bouncing from the offset and everybody was chatting and like talking about what they do and things like that. Sharing like Palestine Stickers and just. It's a really great vibe. Spit Back works so good as well. I've seen.
• 32:37
  Speaker A: Because I don't even know, but I don't know anything.
• 32:42
  Speaker B: We headlined that on Thursday on the.
• 32:46
  Speaker A: Top of the poster, weren't they?
• 32:48
  Speaker B: Yeah, that's just because I got muddled up though. I didn't realize we're a headline. I know Spitback are awesome. They're three piece. They had like really fuzzy base. It's sort of like a wee bit fat dog like McCoskey, that sort of thing. Oh, they were really good. Really, really good. And obviously Deep Films are amazing too. Totally different bands.
• 33:12
  Speaker A: But yeah, I mean reason raising money for Refugee as well.
• 33:20
  Speaker B: Yeah, we were taking like close donations and things like that and we had Spit Back brought up sign up sheet for like helping stand up to racism as well.
• 33:32
  Speaker A: So amazing.
• 33:33
  Speaker B: It went really well. Divide was awesome. Honestly.
• 33:36
  Speaker A: Well speaking. Speaking of racism, I've got this. I've done this. But this is. This is a real person. Jess. Go. I've never had curry or a kebab. Spelled kebab wrong and don't intend to. British food is the best. English breakfast Sunday. Roast fish and chips, pies, pasties, scones. Also our national dish isn't a chicken tikka masala we only think that because a Labor MP said the decades ago to push multiculturalism. So apparently nobody likes curries or kebabs in Britain. It's a conspiracy. It's a hoax.
• 34:12
  Speaker B: It looks like a. I wrote that.
• 34:15
  Speaker A: It's a hoax from big flavor. As somebody said. People talk some of it shite these days, didn't they?
• 34:23
  Speaker B: Ah, the confidence in which they speak that shape. Mike.
• 34:29
  Speaker A: Do you think? Why is it. Why is it the. Why is it the. The. Why is the confidence so strong?
• 34:38
  Speaker B: I think honestly it has got a lot to do with like social media. We live in an attention economy. We're all sort of being funneled into like really small little slots of thinking and it's just keep getting smaller and smaller until there's just. Everybody thinks the same thing. That's ideal.
• 34:57
  Speaker A: Because obviously it's quite an.
• 34:58
  Speaker B: Esoteric answer, wasn't it?
• 34:59
  Speaker A: Sorry, it's an esoteric question.
• 35:05
  Speaker B: The.
• 35:06
  Speaker A: Yeah, the algorithms obviously whether we. If we take away from the fact that they're all in by right wing technocrats and just from an advertising point of view, they're just trying to sell adverts. So if you wait one thing. This is going to give you more of that so you stay on that platform.
• 35:26
  Speaker B: Absolutely. And we also tend to seek out things that we believe already. Like we'll just keep looking until we find things that affirm our beliefs.
• 35:34
  Speaker A: So people are getting different news stories. I'm trying to play devil's advocate a bit. So you're just seeing. They're just seeing the same propaganda over and over again and they're just surrounded by people that all agree and repeat the same message. So then when they hear somebody, somebody saying the opposite. The what? How can you think.
• 35:54
  Speaker B: It just confirms. It confirms their belief to be fair. Like as opposite effect.
• 36:01
  Speaker A: It's weird. Yeah. Would you. I feel like, I feel like the week in social media sometimes.
• 36:09
  Speaker B: Me too.
• 36:10
  Speaker A: And that. But then, then the excuse my ghetto is that how would I promote my music, how would I promote the podcast, how would I do that? But is that just, is that just an excuse? You got addicted to social media anyway?
• 36:28
  Speaker B: Oh, I don't know.
• 36:29
  Speaker A: I don't know.
• 36:30
  Speaker B: You just need to find other ways of getting content out with it. But yeah, as far as promotion goes, how good is social media now anyway without actually paying for things and stuff? I don't know about you, but reach for like all my pages is so bad.
• 36:44
  Speaker A: Yes. Because when you, when you. A good post will get. I had a look at the stats during the. I mean I Might do a boring show one day for people that are interested in that kind of thing. But. So Gyro's page is about nearly 7,000 followers and a good post will reach 1% of our followers. And that's. I'm talking about a popular post that kind of sort of goes well. And yeah, it's also. If you add, if you add something like the word tickets or sell out or sale or. Or T shirts for sale, things like that, then nobody sees it or, or even like sharing a YouTube video. Like when I've just. While, while we're listening to that song, I just uploaded a wee screenshot of us talking post. I didn't have posts, so we can't even check.
• 37:38
  Speaker C: But.
• 37:39
  Speaker A: So if you just pop a picture, there's more chance of people going, oh, I wonder what's going on? But then you. For me to actually put the YouTube thing in it. They don't know what it is. I don't know what we do. What do we got today? They want us to do sponsored ads, but we will never do that. We'll never do that.
• 37:57
  Speaker B: There is some techie musicians working on this. Like they must. There must be musicians that are, you know, a bit techy that see this problem too.
• 38:09
  Speaker A: For sure, there is actually. And I've got. I have got somebody. Let's see, where is it? There is. I've joined one. I'll put it. I can't remember the name. I'm not going through my emails. I can't do two things at once. But yeah, the. There is a couple of people starting up. But the problem is that there's no. If there's no people there, then it's.
• 38:31
  Speaker B: You know, there's people that.
• 38:32
  Speaker A: It's. So it's like, how do people go. Who would have thought that the MySpace space era would be the peak for musicians?
• 38:40
  Speaker B: I know, but.
• 38:42
  Speaker A: But that's. That's where we're at. So we. The. Let's talk about the solo album, the Soul ep. Sorry, what's that called?
• 38:51
  Speaker B: And where's that weird beats to disengage to. And it's on Band Camp and other streaming platforms as well. That one's a five track ep, I think, and it's all different electronic tunes are made and there's a couple acoustic tunes as well. And there's a collaboration with Frank for Deadpatchers on that as well.
• 39:14
  Speaker A: Yes. Shout Francis. Yes, well, we seen Francis actually. For anyone who's in Glasgow, Dead Thatchers are playing the Cools on Wednesday night with Dr. Normal and then I'll see. We'll see Francis on during I st. Because we're going to Ireland. We're going to Derry, Dublin and D. So yeah. Shouts to Francis and Ly. Willie Copeland as well. Brilliant stuff. You were on the album that they did as well. Because I'm on that album and I don't. Yeah, I don't remember what I did. I did a song but it was kind of an advert. I used it as an advert for us. Yeah, we're doing. With us building a hang. It was kind of like. It was like I felt like I was ripping off Tom Waits a wee bit. But yeah, I didn't. But I was like, I want to record that properly. And then I. Then I was just on the album and it just kind of sort of. It just took some words that didn't make sense. But it come to come to the. The gig or something like.
• 40:21
  Speaker B: I love the mix of that too. It's probably the like weirdest track I've put out. So just like, I'm gonna have fun with this.
• 40:29
  Speaker A: And then. Do you do all your recording your ep? Do you just do that in the house or how. How do you do that?
• 40:36
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:39
  Speaker A: Self recorded, self produced.
• 40:41
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 40:41
  Speaker A: What about Absolute Rights? How was that?
• 40:44
  Speaker B: So we did record Carl and Cheryl, who was amazing. Then we left it maybe a wee bit too long. We re recorded it in the practice space and then we mixed it ourselves. Bob did most of the mix and I just like tinkered a wee bit at the end.
• 41:04
  Speaker A: And how would you. How's the. What's the difference for you from recording and you know, what's the pros and cons of working on the stuff yourself to compare to working with other people on something.
• 41:19
  Speaker B: I find it a lot easier to like get things finished when I'm working on behalf of like Bob and Ben as well. Like I could initially. My thing with music is I would sort of like push to get it out maybe a wee bit too fast and I should. Should have spent a wee bit too long. But now I've got the problem with some songs where I spent too long on them and should have had more of the mindset just getting out. So it's just finding that balance, isn't it? With every single song, I guess it's different. Sometimes I'm really excited and things get put out straight away.
• 41:48
  Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. When I recorded an album over lockdown myself and at times it was good because I felt like there's a couple of times where I was like, I can do better. And I. I feel like it was less prey because it was only my. Sometimes if I'm with someone else doing it, doing me a favor by doing mate straights or whatever. So I feel like if I think something's good enough, I'll go, that's good enough. That all day. Well, when I was. When I was in those myself, I was like, I'm actually going to get this right. But I still didn't turn it as well as mother stuff, so. And I think that's. I think a lot of that's down to having someone to argue with and I don't know. And I'm sure a bad way, but just like there's a certain hills to die on and certain hills not to. So if somebody seems do it that way or you go, no, it should definitely be that way. And then that means it's more. A more confident decision.
• 42:51
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 42:51
  Speaker A: So. Yeah. But I'm gonna need. I'm gonna. I'm gonna get my studio set up this week. I'm gonna need to record because I'm not going to be. I'm. I'm not commute. I'm not getting boats every time I need to record a song. So I'm gonna. My production skills.
• 43:05
  Speaker B: Bandlab for a lot of stuff. To be honest, it's really good. Like.
• 43:09
  Speaker A: So Bandlab. What is? Sorry, I don't know. I've never heard it.
• 43:14
  Speaker B: It's an app. You can get it on your phone or you could use it on the computer, but you can record straight into it. It's got like premixed loops and things on it as well. You've got. There's a drum machine thing. Oh God. There's all sorts on it. You should definitely download that and have a go. Like it's really easy to use and it's also got like mastering things and there's lots of presets that you can mess about with and it's just a lot of fun.
• 43:41
  Speaker A: And how much is it?
• 43:43
  Speaker B: No, it's free. There is a premium thing, but I haven't, I haven't bought that.
• 43:48
  Speaker A: So I just said I'm gonna need to have a look at these things because I've just. I've got too many of these things I got.
• 43:55
  Speaker B: I highly recommend it. Honestly, it's super easy to use and really that's what got me into like doing this certain more spoken word stuff. And that is over lockdown. I got really bored and I was like, there's going to be one of these apps I can figure out and I came across Bandlab.
• 44:11
  Speaker A: So yeah, I usually. I've been using Reaper and that's. Reaper's good for. For podcast. Yeah, it's good for. For just vocal stuff anyway and. But yeah, I've noticed that like I said, I had. I had Canva, which I thought. I think Canva has been really good for just making flyers and posters and stuff. So I've enjoyed using that. And then Capcom, I've just signed up to premium Capcom and they got me a pure Bell or because I had made this video using these effects and I'd spent a couple hours on it and then when I tried to export it, it just said you need to upgrade to use these effects. And now. Yeah, now I've got a 22 pound a month and another monthly bill that I don't know if I need. I don't know if I need Canva and Cap Cut and Premiere Pro and all these things. So it's just. Maybe look at it. But it just feels like it's annoying. It feels like some. Everything. Every single of these apps are good at one thing particularly not. Not so good at other things.
• 45:15
  Speaker B: No, definitely.
• 45:18
  Speaker A: Yeah. The. With Rebecca, Radical poetry. What. What are you working on? Poetry. Do you go. Any planning to do more poetry? Do you like it? Do you like doing poetry? Life?
• 45:35
  Speaker B: Yes. No. I feel like it really puts me out of my comfort zone, so I enjoy it, but I don't think I'm like naturally inclined to recite it as much as a lot of my favorite music. I would say that they do as like spoken words, poetry stuff. I guess a lot of the stuff I write is poetry, isn't it? It's just spoken word, so.
• 46:00
  Speaker A: And where's the line between poetry and hip hop?
• 46:05
  Speaker B: Yeah, I think I wouldn't be the one to make the call on that. I've just. I think once I sort of started changing the way I write slightly to be a bit more wordy, to either lean into the rap or spoken word or whatever it is, it has changed my writing forever. So that most of the things I write now I reckon I could probably recite as a poem and it would work. Unless it's like deliberate things where I've added a chorus or that. But it's all poetry. It's all songs. It's all. I don't know. I also do different versions of songs as well, so it's easier for me to be like, I can see that in different ways. Does that make sense?
• 46:42
  Speaker A: Yeah, we'll get Guns Tail is there's a. There's no. Well, there's at least two that I know of. This one being my birthday.
• 46:51
  Speaker B: Yeah, I love the version of the guys actually. I didn't know I could shout like that. And every day I do it at gigs and I'm like, I felt good, like.
• 47:03
  Speaker A: I would play it. But check it out. There's a really good, there's a really good live recording fate that you did or gig at room two.
• 47:09
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 47:09
  Speaker A: Of the sort of dance version. And then obviously there's that amazing punk version on the album. So what. What's happening now? What you working on? What you doing? What's. What you got, you got, you got, you've got your, you've got your artwork, you're on that. Well, have you got anything else you want more or you're want. You're wanting. You're hoping to complete this year?
• 47:32
  Speaker B: Well, I'm actually, I'm going to be starting up classes. Anybody in 5 Kirkcaldy I'm going to be starting art classes. Like upcycling ones I'm going to be doing. I don't have an actual date for the start one yet but I'm going to be doing like a taster session thing. So if you want to follow me on social media or something even you'll be able to see like the first states of starting it. I'll be teaching how to upcycle clothing and make jewelry and just also just help like build a bit of community and stuff. It's hard to get out and do creative things. So hopefully just creating that environment where you could come and do lots of different things that are practical will make a difference.
• 48:11
  Speaker A: Would you upcycle a moon boot?
• 48:14
  Speaker B: I could get a try, man.
• 48:16
  Speaker A: I just feel I don't know what to do it. I mean hopefully I don't need it again. I've done, I've done four days with it.
• 48:23
  Speaker B: Maybe you should upcycle it to.
• 48:27
  Speaker A: Hold on. It was funny than I thought it was. So I can do some of this. As you can see, Jay started putting some rhinestones on it.
• 49:07
  Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like we could definitely turn that into like one of those big golf bits, you know with the buckles and stuff.
• 49:15
  Speaker A: Yeah, something I think. Yeah. Or if anyone any wants to buy them in. But it's available.
• 49:31
  Speaker B: Do you not need to wear it anymore?
• 49:33
  Speaker A: Hopefully not. So basically I wore it last week. I took, I took off for the first time last week. I think it was like the second day I was on the island and I walked and I, I, I feel fine. But then about an hour later I tried to walk to the shop and I was limping again and I was like, oh, no, this is. That it's not worked. But I was fine the next day. And what I realized that is just the, it's not the injury, it's. The ankle was just about shape because it's been supported so much. So I had to wear it to the OB Trace gig and Saturday, so I played a gig in it and then I. Since Tuesday, so I got back in Monday night. So since, since Tuesday, I've just walked an hour every day and I've not needed it. I don't think I need it anymore.
• 50:25
  Speaker B: Yeah, you just need to build up the strength a wee bit. Absolutely.
• 50:28
  Speaker A: I've just got a shy ankle. It's just, just, just. Yeah, just a wee bit. It's nothing. It just feels like, you know, it just. After we go for another work, it maybe feels like you've been. Been like up a. You know, you've been hiking all day or something like that. You know, fingers crossed it's over because that, that was, that, that's been. That's been a bit. But you know, it's maybe the reason that somebody told me that the universe tell me to slow down. So it did slow me down. It stopped me going a couple of festivals and it stopped me doing lots of things that I wanted to do. But probably without the moon bit, I wouldn't have ended up in a caravan and I would have ended up in the. You know, I'm just in a caravan for a few days during Storm Amy.
• 51:11
  Speaker B: And then.
• 51:14
  Speaker A: I was wild, but I was enjoying, I enjoyed it. And I was like, then that's what. When I got off of a place on an island, I was like, actually, I think I'm up for this. So, yeah, hopefully I don't need to wear moon boots anymore. It's good, it's good. I think. I mean, it's. And I can still commute, you know, I've been a bit spoiled by living in Glasgow that you can just practically walk to live music every night. Do you have. What, what. What's your top tip for traveling? Apart from my half bolt of Bucky, Is there anything else or is that the answer tune? Do you listen to tunes or usually go with people or.
• 51:55
  Speaker B: If I'm on my own, I listen to tune or read a book. If I was. Someday I just chat. If there's not a toilet. Don't drink until you're like, almost there. Just especially if you've already been drinking. But that's a people they took for the bus, I guess go to so many gigs that you. You will be okay if you do end up stranded anywhere. Like an absolute worst case. Like you know, someday the way where you're going.
• 52:24
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I've seen. I've seen you at places and then you're away from the first.
• 52:31
  Speaker B: Yep.
• 52:32
  Speaker A: Yeah. You need to say crazy while. While he's gone.
• 52:36
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 52:36
  Speaker A: I don't know if you said anything and I shouldn't have did it. It's about. Just been left on a live stream.
• 52:40
  Speaker B: I didn't see the comment all over the.
• 52:45
  Speaker A: And Ali's saying put them in but in the cupboard they're handy thing for the next time. There will be no next time. That there will be. Hopefully not.
• 52:53
  Speaker B: No.
• 52:54
  Speaker A: I used to. I used to break bones and stuff all the time when I was younger because it was fearless and stupid. But yeah, this is the first time that I fought myself in ages. So, yeah, hopefully there won't be a next time. I think that was just a fluke, one in a million thing. So, yeah, I'm not going to be doing anything stupid. I'm not really going to be doing anything. Hopefully. So, yeah. How can people get involved in the upcycling thing that you're talking about?
• 53:24
  Speaker B: Just if you give me a follow on Facebook pages, I'll definitely post about it on probably a Sound Radical page or something like that.
• 53:32
  Speaker A: Sounds Radical. So it Sounds Radical is basically your record, all encompassing record label, designer thing, everything.
• 53:40
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's the label. So we released music for the Rag and Bone man and Secret Admirer Rich Gulag and I've also put on like a handful of gigs under that as well. But yeah, sound radical.
• 53:55
  Speaker A: So the. The Dragon Bone Man. Superb. And the Dragon Bone man is now a poet, which I'm absolutely loving. Pharaoh Poet he's calling himself.
• 54:03
  Speaker B: Oh, it's so good. So good. He's definitely going to raise a few eyebrows. And poetry rooms as well. It just. Oh, yeah.
• 54:13
  Speaker A: I seen him. He was at In Deep the other night and I was just thinking that is brilliant and you're a loving. Deep's a great pub in the West End, but it's kind of like whoever. I've not played it for a while now but it's. It's always busy because it's in a kind of student area, a quite affluent area of Glasgow. And yeah, it's just people. I don't know people that just. Just quite fancy themselves as a port sometimes looking. I was just like, well, I'm good at English so I Must be a good poet.
• 54:45
  Speaker B: Just.
• 54:48
  Speaker A: Natural confidence and then you've just got. Lou's just gonna go up there and just tell whether it is, man. Like just. Yeah, I've only seen the clips but.
• 54:57
  Speaker B: I'm looking forward for that and I think it's awesome as well because as much as I love his music, like his lyrics are so good as well. Like people need to hear what he has to say too. I think it's awesome that you s up the poetry.
• 55:10
  Speaker A: Yeah. If you. If you don't know. So it's the Rag and Bone Man. Not to be confused with Rag and Bone man, ex Nemesis. But it's. It's just. It's just him. His own contraption that he's made. There's a drum kit and he just kicks it and plays a drums with his foot. Plays kind of heavy rock blues and. And got such a soulful voice with lots of. It's just an authentic voice that he's got. But yeah, you're right, it's. Sometimes it is quite. The whole thing can be quite loud. So the lyrics can get lost in that. The entire experience.
• 55:48
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 55:49
  Speaker A: So, yeah, it's good to hear what he's saying and yeah, shout outs to the Rag and Bone Man. Petrol Bomb Records. And he's got some. He's got some absolute cracking tunes, man. He doesn't get played on the radio for sure. That's one of your lyrics on your new song. You're like, you don't got played in the radio. Have you. Have you tried to get played on the radio?
• 56:14
  Speaker B: I have to be fair. But almost every one of my songs is a swear word and I'm like, I don't know what. I'm not going to replace the word. And then it would sound silly to just Pete the word out as well. So I don't know what they. What they would even do.
• 56:27
  Speaker A: Yeah, well, I think it's up to you. It's got to do it. So like we got the first. We get played in six music by Paul Heaton for the Beautiful south. And I thought it was a wind up email. This is. This is a long time ago. And he just said, hi, this is Paul Heaton. I want to play your song. Jeremy Kale fought my wife on 6 Music and I'm like, right, wind up. And then, then he just messaged me back. I just ignored the email, I think. Or I don't have ignored that. I think I just said, I don't know how to do that because we paid a. A studio engineer to record this and mix it. So I was like, I don't know how to do that. And anyway, that's all right. Me and the producer figured it and then he played Jerry Mikhail's Being four. He just reversed it. But I don't think in general they. They make a habit that he actually wanted to play that song just for the. Just for the shits and giggles because he hated Jerry Mikhail and he thought it'd be funny. But yeah, I think what I try and do sometimes, now that I'm aware of that, is I try and, you know, the last couple albums recorded with my famous. So what I'm going to do is just do a version where while we're recording it, I can just make that bit silent. The catch, actually, on the new Dreams I went album I did change the word to bloody while I was recording it, but that wasn't really about radio play because we had not one song for Dreams I Met will get played in the radio at all. And I think I have tried nearly all of them. You know, not really tried, I just used uploader and all of them continued. But yeah, it was because of the actual world. I quite like the Bloody Mess sounded actually better than, you know, sometimes nothing says what the world. But for some reason the bloody mess just. I think a bright dot in the sky selling bread or certain death. I don't just feel. I thought. I thought we could have both versions. It so. Sorry.
• 58:27
  Speaker B: It's okay. I find myself swearing a bit. Lesson songs anyway. A lot of these songs I did right. Maybe a good few years ago now. My writing style is slightly different. I definitely still swear. But yeah, I think it is a wee bit less. Like there's a swear word in every verse now.
• 58:45
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 58:46
  Speaker B: Just maybe one or two in the song.
• 58:49
  Speaker A: Yeah. Well, you just don't. You don't. You shouldn't censor yourself. But yeah, I suppose it has more power if you don't do it all the time as well.
• 58:56
  Speaker B: Absolutely. I've also, I find an interesting exercise to not allow yourself to use words that you're overusing. Find a new word for that.
• 59:06
  Speaker A: And where did the lyrics come from? Is it just come from the how? What is the writing process like for you?
• 59:17
  Speaker B: I go through weed phases, to be honest. Like, I wouldn't write for ages and then. But I'm always thinking about songs and wee lines and things are coming to me all the time. And then when I go to write, I tend to write like three or four songs. Sometimes they all make it into sets and stuff. Sometimes only A couple of them do, but yeah, tends to be like, I'll be thinking about subjects just intermittently as I do other things for a few months, a couple of weeks. It just depends really. And then I'll write a few songs about those subjects.
• 59:51
  Speaker A: And you do it. You're just doing it. Is it the poet brain or are you thinking already about the music? Are you thinking about it with a guitar? Are you thinking about it with a beat or what you.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker B: No, I tend to. I tend to do them totally separately, to be honest. Like, I'll make tracks without considering any lyrics, and then I'll write songs without considering the music. And I'll just maybe go through the lyrics with like a couple of different electronic beats or something, see what fits best and just play about with it. I don't tend to deliberately match things up. I like to be a bit more chaotic.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker A: Yeah. Well, thank you very much. We've done exactly an hour.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker B: Always a pleasure.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker A: The album is. Is amazing. Check it out. It's. The link is in the comments. If you listen to the audio podcast, it will be in the description. It's sounds radical.bandcamp.com and it's called Actual Dance Speech by Absolute Riots. And I'm assuming that's the same page for your solo EP as well.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker B: No, that's up as Rebecca. Radical still.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker A: That's Rebecca. Why? How do you decide what's what?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker B: I don't know. I just trust the universe.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker A: Try see how you feel. And also on Spotify, when I'm writing.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker B: Something, sometimes when I'm writing something, I'll be like, this feels like a certain song, but most of the time, not really.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker A: Yeah, well, go check out the streaming platforms, but go to Band Camp. The best way to support is buying on Band Camp and then streaming it. That'd be the best way to support it. So support local music. Unless you live really, really far away, then support really, really far away music. Thanks to the patrons, if you call that radio, for making this show possible. And any. Any final words.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker B: Rebecca, thanks so much for having me on. And if you listen to the album, I hope you enjoy it. Hope it gives something to you.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker A: It's a great album. Go and check it out and keep up the good work. Rebecca, I'll put to you the minute and see if you can something raffle off or something. Nice one, Rebecca. Nice one. Thanks to everyone who's tuned in. We're back tomorrow. Actually, before I go, we're back tomorrow at 4 o'.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker C: Clock.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker A: If you're watching us on YouTube just now, if you're listening to this, a podcast, then I don't know when that'll come out or if it'll come out or even what's going on. But tomorrow for same time, 4 o', clock, old jog radio legend Peter Rankin, he's got an amazing podcast called what Am I Listening To? What I'm Listening To. It's amazing. I, I really inspired me back in the days with old Jock radio, which was a show he co hosted with Steve Mason from the Beta Band, who is obviously one of my all time heroes of music. So we're going to be talking about the Beta Band reunion, we're going to be talking about the, the madness that was old Jock radio back in the MSN era. And we're going to be talking about, I think, I think he's going to moan about Donald Trump as well, because he's furious at Donald Trump to know. So I'm just gonna let him take it away. So tomorrow, 4 o' clock on YouTube, hit the subscribe button if you haven't already. Thank you to the patrons for making the show possible. And go and buy Rebecca Radicals new album, Absolute Riots, actual dance beats. Thank you, Rebecca Radical.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker B: Thank you. Bye bye.