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E 295: Trauma, the Brain, and Healing: A Conversation with Dr. Tiff Thompson · Adult Child of Dysfunction

• 0:02
  Well,
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  hello,
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  everybody,
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  and
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  welcome
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  back
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  to
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  another
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  episode
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  of
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  Adult
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  Child
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  of
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  Dysfunction.
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  Today
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  we
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  have
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  with
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  us
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  Dr.
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  Tiff
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  Thompson.
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  She's
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  the
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  creator
• 0:10
  of
• 0:10
  the
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  School
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  of
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  Neurotherapy,
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  an
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  online
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  educational
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  platform
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  offering
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  specialized
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  curricula
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  in
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  quantitative
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  eeg,
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  didactic
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  training,
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  board
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  certification
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  in
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  neurotherapy,
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  didactic
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  training,
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  and
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  neuromodulation
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  education.
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  Dr.
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  Thompson
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  is
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  also
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  the
• 0:27
  founder
• 0:28
  and
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  owner
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  of
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  Neurofeed
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  Neurotherapy,
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  a
• 0:30
  Santa
• 0:31
  Barbara
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  clinic
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  where
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  she
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  addresses
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  an
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  array
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  of
• 0:33
  conditions,
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  including
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  mental
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  health,
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  developmental
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  trauma,
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  brain
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  injury,
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  and
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  neurodiverse
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  issues.
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  Welcome,
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  Dr.
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  Tiff.
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  Thanks.
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  That's
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  a
• 0:41
  nice
• 0:42
  intro.
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  Yeah,
• 0:43
  it
• 0:43
  is,
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  right.
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  When
• 0:43
  someone
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  else
• 0:44
  reads
• 0:44
  it
• 0:44
  and
• 0:44
  I'm
• 0:45
  like,
• 0:45
  whoa,
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  that
• 0:45
  was.
• 0:46
  I
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  read
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  it
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  right
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  before
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  we
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  came
• 0:47
  on
• 0:47
  here.
• 0:47
  And
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  I'm
• 0:48
  like,
• 0:48
  oh,
• 0:48
  this
• 0:48
  is
• 0:48
  a
• 0:48
  mouthful.
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  But
• 0:49
  I
• 0:50
  just
• 0:50
  want
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  to
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  say
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  thank
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  you
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  for
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  coming,
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  first
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  of
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  all.
• 0:52
  Yeah,
• 0:52
  lovely.
• 0:53
  Thanks
• 0:53
  for
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  having
• 0:53
  me.
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  You're
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  welcome.
• 0:54
  And
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  I'm
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  going
• 0:55
  to
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  jump
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  right
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  in
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  and
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  talk
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  a
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  little
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  bit
• 0:57
  because
• 0:57
  I
• 0:57
  actually
• 0:57
  just
• 0:58
  was
• 0:58
  speaking
• 0:59
  to
• 0:59
  some
• 0:59
  people
• 0:59
  yesterday
• 1:00
  on
• 1:01
  developmental
• 1:01
  trauma,
• 1:02
  and
• 1:03
  let's
• 1:04
  just
• 1:04
  jump
• 1:04
  right
• 1:04
  in
• 1:04
  there
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  and
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  talk
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  about
• 1:06
  what
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  that
• 1:06
  is
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  and
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  kind
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  of
• 1:08
  how
• 1:08
  it
• 1:08
  affects
• 1:08
  us
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  in
• 1:09
  later
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  years.
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  And
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  when
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  you
• 1:11
  say
• 1:11
  development,
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  what
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  stages
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  you're
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  actually
• 1:13
  talking
• 1:13
  about?
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  I
• 1:15
  mean,
• 1:15
  developmental
• 1:16
  trauma
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  is
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  really
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  sort
• 1:17
  of.
• 1:19
  I
• 1:19
  would
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  say
• 1:19
  the
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  mainstream
• 1:20
  classification
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  of
• 1:21
  it
• 1:21
  is
• 1:21
  under
• 1:22
  the
• 1:22
  age
• 1:22
  of
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  18.
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  And,
• 1:23
  you
• 1:24
  know,
• 1:24
  there's.
• 1:24
  There's
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  10
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  categories
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  according
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  to
• 1:26
  the
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  Adverse
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  Childhood
• 1:27
  Experiences
• 1:28
  exam.
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  Right.
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  And
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  I
• 1:30
  would.
• 1:30
  I
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  won't
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  be
• 1:30
  able
• 1:30
  to
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  rattle
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  all
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  10
• 1:31
  of
• 1:31
  them
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  off,
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  but
• 1:31
  I'll
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  give
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  you
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  the.
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  The
• 1:32
  idea,
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  right?
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  One
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  is
• 1:34
  verbal
• 1:34
  abuse,
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  right.
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  Psychological
• 1:36
  abuse,
• 1:37
  neglect,
• 1:38
  physical
• 1:39
  abuse,
• 1:39
  corporal
• 1:39
  punishment
• 1:40
  in
• 1:40
  excess,
• 1:41
  sexual
• 1:42
  abuse,
• 1:43
  molestation.
• 1:44
  If
• 1:45
  one
• 1:45
  of
• 1:45
  your
• 1:45
  family
• 1:45
  members
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  was
• 1:46
  incarcerated,
• 1:47
  right.
• 1:47
  Imprisoned.
• 1:48
  If
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  somebody
• 1:49
  in
• 1:49
  your
• 1:49
  family
• 1:50
  had
• 1:50
  a
• 1:50
  mental
• 1:51
  illness,
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  and
• 1:52
  if
• 1:52
  somebody
• 1:53
  in
• 1:53
  your
• 1:53
  family
• 1:53
  was
• 1:53
  addicted
• 1:54
  to
• 1:54
  substances.
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  And
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  there's
• 1:56
  a
• 1:56
  few
• 1:56
  other
• 1:56
  questions
• 1:57
  that,
• 1:57
  you
• 1:57
  know,
• 1:57
  extend
• 1:58
  beyond
• 1:58
  that,
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  but
• 1:58
  those
• 1:58
  are
• 1:59
  really
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  the
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  categories
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  that
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  can.
• 2:01
  That
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  can
• 2:01
  create
• 2:02
  the
• 2:02
  experience
• 2:02
  of
• 2:03
  developmental
• 2:03
  trauma.
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  And
• 2:04
  they're
• 2:04
  not.
• 2:04
  It's
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  not
• 2:05
  exclusively
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  those.
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  There
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  can,
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  of
• 2:06
  course,
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  be
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  other
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  experiences
• 2:07
  that
• 2:08
  traumatize
• 2:09
  youth.
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  But
• 2:10
  the
• 2:10
  long
• 2:10
  and
• 2:10
  short
• 2:10
  of
• 2:11
  it
• 2:11
  is
• 2:11
  that,
• 2:11
  you
• 2:11
  know,
• 2:12
  the
• 2:12
  more
• 2:12
  of
• 2:12
  these
• 2:12
  kinds
• 2:13
  of
• 2:14
  circumstances
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  that
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  we
• 2:15
  have
• 2:15
  in
• 2:15
  our
• 2:16
  lives
• 2:16
  as
• 2:16
  young
• 2:16
  people,
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  the.
• 2:17
  The
• 2:17
  more
• 2:18
  likely
• 2:18
  we
• 2:18
  are
• 2:18
  to
• 2:19
  experience
• 2:19
  a
• 2:19
  psychological
• 2:20
  or
• 2:21
  addictive
• 2:21
  dysfunction
• 2:23
  as
• 2:23
  a
• 2:23
  consequence,
• 2:24
  even
• 2:24
  health
• 2:24
  dysfunction
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  as
• 2:25
  a
• 2:25
  consequence.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  joke.
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  I
• 2:27
  did
• 2:27
  a
• 2:27
  whole
• 2:27
  episode
• 2:28
  on
• 2:28
  the
• 2:28
  Aces
• 2:28
  because
• 2:29
  I
• 2:29
  kind
• 2:29
  of
• 2:29
  joke
• 2:29
  and
• 2:29
  I
• 2:30
  say,
• 2:30
  Well,
• 2:30
  I
• 2:30
  had
• 2:30
  nine
• 2:30
  of
• 2:31
  the
• 2:31
  10,
• 2:31
  but
• 2:31
  I
• 2:32
  only.
• 2:32
  I
• 2:32
  would
• 2:32
  have
• 2:33
  had
• 2:33
  the
• 2:33
  10
• 2:33
  if
• 2:33
  they
• 2:33
  had
• 2:33
  known
• 2:34
  what
• 2:34
  was
• 2:34
  going
• 2:34
  on.
• 2:34
  But
• 2:35
  I
• 2:35
  always
• 2:35
  kind
• 2:35
  of
• 2:35
  Joke.
• 2:35
  I'd
• 2:36
  be
• 2:36
  like,
• 2:36
  I
• 2:36
  should
• 2:36
  be
• 2:36
  a
• 2:36
  10
• 2:37
  out
• 2:37
  of
• 2:37
  10.
• 2:37
  And
• 2:38
  I'm
• 2:38
  like,
• 2:38
  but
• 2:38
  look
• 2:38
  guys,
• 2:39
  I'm
• 2:39
  still
• 2:39
  here.
• 2:39
  I'm
• 2:39
  still
• 2:40
  walking.
• 2:40
  I'm
• 2:40
  still
• 2:41
  somewhat
• 2:41
  normal.
• 2:42
  Like
• 2:44
  so,
• 2:45
  so
• 2:45
  what.
• 2:46
  Why
• 2:47
  does
• 2:47
  this
• 2:47
  timing,
• 2:47
  like,
• 2:48
  especially.
• 2:48
  Is
• 2:48
  there
• 2:49
  a
• 2:49
  specific,
• 2:49
  like,
• 2:50
  is
• 2:50
  it
• 2:50
  more
• 2:50
  important
• 2:51
  the
• 2:51
  before
• 2:52
  age
• 2:52
  7
• 2:52
  to
• 2:53
  teens?
• 2:54
  I
• 2:54
  know
• 2:55
  they
• 2:55
  talk
• 2:55
  about
• 2:56
  the
• 2:57
  different
• 2:57
  stages
• 2:58
  of
• 2:58
  why
• 2:59
  it's
• 2:59
  so
• 2:59
  important
• 2:59
  that
• 3:00
  you
• 3:00
  don't
• 3:00
  have
• 3:00
  these
• 3:00
  traumas.
• 3:02
  Well,
• 3:03
  let
• 3:03
  me
• 3:03
  tell
• 3:03
  you
• 3:03
  my
• 3:03
  perspective
• 3:04
  and
• 3:04
  then
• 3:04
  I'll
• 3:04
  touch
• 3:05
  on
• 3:05
  a
• 3:05
  couple
• 3:05
  studies.
• 3:07
  But
• 3:07
  the
• 3:08
  earlier
• 3:08
  the
• 3:08
  trauma
• 3:09
  occurs,
• 3:09
  the
• 3:09
  more
• 3:10
  impactful
• 3:11
  you.
• 3:12
  Right.
• 3:12
  The
• 3:12
  more
• 3:12
  insidious
• 3:13
  it
• 3:13
  is.
• 3:14
  So
• 3:14
  if
• 3:14
  you're
• 3:15
  an
• 3:15
  infant,
• 3:15
  if
• 3:15
  you're
• 3:15
  a
• 3:15
  brand
• 3:16
  new
• 3:16
  infant,
• 3:16
  you
• 3:17
  know,
• 3:17
  trauma
• 3:17
  that
• 3:18
  you've
• 3:18
  incurred
• 3:19
  from
• 3:19
  birth
• 3:19
  on,
• 3:20
  let's
• 3:20
  just
• 3:20
  say
• 3:20
  you
• 3:20
  were
• 3:21
  profoundly
• 3:21
  neglected.
• 3:22
  That
• 3:22
  can
• 3:22
  have
• 3:23
  massive,
• 3:23
  massive
• 3:24
  implications.
• 3:25
  Right.
• 3:25
  Next
• 3:26
  would
• 3:26
  be
• 3:26
  then
• 3:26
  childhood,
• 3:27
  right
• 3:27
  first,
• 3:27
  then
• 3:28
  toddlerhood,
• 3:28
  then
• 3:28
  childhood.
• 3:30
  You
• 3:30
  know,
• 3:30
  we
• 3:31
  get
• 3:31
  more
• 3:31
  resilient
• 3:32
  as
• 3:32
  we
• 3:32
  get
• 3:32
  older.
• 3:33
  But
• 3:33
  it's
• 3:33
  not
• 3:33
  to
• 3:33
  say
• 3:33
  that
• 3:34
  were
• 3:34
  completely
• 3:35
  and
• 3:35
  totally
• 3:35
  resilient.
• 3:36
  And
• 3:36
  we're
• 3:36
  still
• 3:36
  very
• 3:37
  malleable.
• 3:37
  I
• 3:37
  mean,
• 3:37
  really
• 3:38
  up
• 3:38
  until
• 3:38
  age
• 3:38
  25,
• 3:39
  really
• 3:40
  creating
• 3:40
  brain
• 3:40
  cells
• 3:41
  forever.
• 3:42
  We
• 3:42
  are
• 3:43
  perpetually
• 3:43
  generating
• 3:44
  new
• 3:44
  brain
• 3:44
  cells
• 3:45
  from
• 3:45
  two
• 3:45
  regions
• 3:46
  of
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  brain.
• 3:46
  One's
• 3:46
  called
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  dentate
• 3:47
  gyrus
• 3:47
  as
• 3:48
  part
• 3:48
  of
• 3:48
  the
• 3:48
  hippocampus,
• 3:48
  and
• 3:49
  then
• 3:49
  the
• 3:49
  other
• 3:49
  is,
• 3:50
  you
• 3:50
  know,
• 3:50
  the
• 3:51
  lining
• 3:51
  of
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  ventricles.
• 3:52
  But
• 3:53
  you
• 3:53
  know,
• 3:53
  there
• 3:54
  have
• 3:54
  been
• 3:54
  studies
• 3:54
  that
• 3:54
  have
• 3:54
  sort
• 3:55
  of
• 3:55
  said,
• 3:55
  oh,
• 3:55
  these
• 3:55
  are
• 3:56
  the,
• 3:56
  these
• 3:56
  are
• 3:57
  the
• 3:57
  types
• 3:57
  of
• 3:57
  trauma
• 3:57
  that
• 3:57
  are
• 3:58
  the
• 3:58
  most
• 3:58
  impactful
• 3:58
  to
• 3:59
  these
• 3:59
  demographics.
• 4:00
  And
• 4:00
  I
• 4:00
  can't
• 4:01
  remember
• 4:01
  the
• 4:01
  ages
• 4:01
  exactly.
• 4:02
  I
• 4:02
  want
• 4:02
  to
• 4:02
  say
• 4:02
  like
• 4:02
  8
• 4:03
  to
• 4:03
  10,
• 4:03
  roughly.
• 4:04
  And
• 4:04
  for
• 4:04
  girls
• 4:04
  with
• 4:04
  moles
• 4:06
  and
• 4:06
  for
• 4:06
  boys,
• 4:06
  it
• 4:07
  is
• 4:07
  neglect.
• 4:08
  And
• 4:08
  I
• 4:08
  believe
• 4:08
  those
• 4:09
  are
• 4:09
  studies
• 4:09
  by
• 4:09
  Teicher.
• 4:10
  I
• 4:10
  can't
• 4:10
  be
• 4:11
  100%
• 4:11
  positive.
• 4:13
  Okay,
• 4:14
  so
• 4:14
  it
• 4:14
  definitely,
• 4:15
  I
• 4:15
  mean
• 4:15
  it's.
• 4:15
  And
• 4:16
  it
• 4:16
  stands
• 4:17
  to
• 4:17
  reason
• 4:17
  because
• 4:18
  you
• 4:18
  really,
• 4:18
  up
• 4:18
  until
• 4:19
  what,
• 4:19
  seven
• 4:19
  you
• 4:19
  write.
• 4:20
  So,
• 4:20
  you
• 4:21
  know,
• 4:21
  it's
• 4:21
  like
• 4:21
  I
• 4:21
  tell
• 4:21
  people
• 4:22
  all
• 4:22
  of
• 4:22
  those
• 4:22
  traumas
• 4:23
  are
• 4:23
  all
• 4:24
  sensitized.
• 4:24
  Like
• 4:25
  they're
• 4:25
  all
• 4:25
  felt
• 4:26
  in,
• 4:26
  like
• 4:27
  they're
• 4:28
  just
• 4:28
  absorbed.
• 4:29
  And
• 4:29
  you
• 4:29
  know,
• 4:30
  you
• 4:30
  look
• 4:30
  at
• 4:30
  your
• 4:30
  parents
• 4:31
  and
• 4:31
  I
• 4:32
  know
• 4:33
  I
• 4:33
  always
• 4:33
  use
• 4:34
  the
• 4:34
  example
• 4:34
  of
• 4:34
  like
• 4:34
  one
• 4:35
  parent
• 4:35
  who's
• 4:35
  standing
• 4:36
  over
• 4:36
  the
• 4:36
  crib
• 4:36
  and
• 4:36
  being
• 4:37
  like,
• 4:37
  oh,
• 4:37
  you're
• 4:37
  going
• 4:37
  to
• 4:37
  be
• 4:38
  so
• 4:38
  good,
• 4:38
  you're
• 4:38
  going
• 4:38
  to
• 4:38
  be
• 4:38
  so
• 4:39
  great.
• 4:39
  You're
• 4:39
  going
• 4:39
  to,
• 4:39
  you
• 4:40
  know,
• 4:40
  be
• 4:40
  the
• 4:40
  president.
• 4:40
  You're
• 4:41
  going
• 4:41
  to
• 4:41
  be
• 4:41
  all
• 4:41
  this.
• 4:41
  And
• 4:41
  your
• 4:42
  body
• 4:42
  is
• 4:42
  like
• 4:42
  reading
• 4:43
  all
• 4:43
  these
• 4:43
  signs
• 4:43
  and
• 4:43
  reading
• 4:44
  all
• 4:44
  these
• 4:44
  tones
• 4:45
  and
• 4:45
  body
• 4:46
  language
• 4:46
  and
• 4:46
  everything
• 4:47
  is.
• 4:47
  Even
• 4:47
  as
• 4:47
  an
• 4:47
  infant
• 4:48
  and
• 4:49
  you're
• 4:49
  a
• 4:49
  little
• 4:49
  more
• 4:49
  relaxed
• 4:50
  and
• 4:50
  calm
• 4:50
  and
• 4:51
  Then
• 4:51
  you
• 4:51
  have
• 4:51
  the
• 4:51
  other
• 4:51
  one
• 4:51
  that's
• 4:52
  laying
• 4:52
  over
• 4:52
  the
• 4:52
  crib
• 4:52
  that's
• 4:53
  literally
• 4:53
  looking
• 4:53
  in
• 4:53
  the
• 4:54
  crib
• 4:54
  going,
• 4:54
  I
• 4:54
  wish
• 4:54
  you
• 4:54
  had
• 4:54
  never
• 4:55
  been
• 4:55
  born.
• 4:55
  Like
• 4:55
  you're,
• 4:56
  you
• 4:56
  know,
• 4:56
  all
• 4:57
  of
• 4:57
  that
• 4:57
  is
• 4:58
  so
• 4:58
  stored.
• 4:58
  And
• 4:59
  it
• 4:59
  can
• 4:59
  only
• 4:59
  imagine
• 5:00
  that
• 5:00
  at
• 5:00
  that
• 5:00
  point,
• 5:01
  you
• 5:01
  can't
• 5:01
  process
• 5:02
  that.
• 5:03
  Your
• 5:03
  brain
• 5:04
  can't.
• 5:04
  Right.
• 5:05
  It
• 5:06
  depends
• 5:06
  on
• 5:06
  what
• 5:06
  you
• 5:06
  mean
• 5:06
  by
• 5:07
  process.
• 5:07
  I
• 5:07
  mean,
• 5:07
  there's
• 5:08
  a.
• 5:08
  There's
• 5:08
  an
• 5:08
  integration
• 5:09
  and
• 5:09
  an
• 5:10
  embodiment
• 5:10
  that
• 5:11
  occurs.
• 5:11
  Right?
• 5:11
  There's
• 5:11
  an.
• 5:12
  There's
• 5:12
  an
• 5:13
  edification
• 5:13
  and
• 5:14
  an
• 5:14
  identification
• 5:15
  with
• 5:16
  what's
• 5:16
  being
• 5:16
  told
• 5:17
  occurs.
• 5:17
  Right?
• 5:18
  And
• 5:18
  so.
• 5:18
  And
• 5:19
  there
• 5:19
  are
• 5:19
  reasons
• 5:19
  as
• 5:19
  to
• 5:20
  why.
• 5:20
  And
• 5:21
  so
• 5:21
  the.
• 5:21
  The.
• 5:22
  The
• 5:22
  frequencies
• 5:23
  that
• 5:23
  we
• 5:23
  are
• 5:24
  going
• 5:24
  to
• 5:24
  generating
• 5:24
  foremost
• 5:25
  as
• 5:25
  infants
• 5:26
  are
• 5:26
  very
• 5:26
  slow
• 5:27
  frequencies.
• 5:27
  Underneath
• 5:28
  the
• 5:28
  age
• 5:28
  of
• 5:28
  five,
• 5:30
  we
• 5:30
  make
• 5:30
  quite
• 5:31
  a
• 5:31
  lot
• 5:31
  of
• 5:31
  delta
• 5:31
  content
• 5:32
  and
• 5:32
  some
• 5:32
  theta
• 5:33
  content.
• 5:33
  And
• 5:33
  so
• 5:34
  Delta,
• 5:34
  in
• 5:35
  my
• 5:35
  mind
• 5:35
  at
• 5:35
  least,
• 5:35
  is.
• 5:36
  It's
• 5:36
  akin
• 5:36
  to
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  collective
• 5:37
  unconscious,
• 5:38
  right?
• 5:38
  But
• 5:38
  the
• 5:38
  white
• 5:39
  matter
• 5:39
  is
• 5:39
  myelinating
• 5:40
  at
• 5:40
  that
• 5:40
  point.
• 5:40
  The
• 5:40
  white
• 5:40
  matter
• 5:41
  is
• 5:41
  the
• 5:41
  fiber
• 5:41
  tracks
• 5:42
  that
• 5:42
  connect
• 5:42
  the
• 5:42
  thalamus,
• 5:43
  the
• 5:43
  deep
• 5:43
  subcortical
• 5:44
  regions
• 5:44
  of
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  brain
• 5:45
  to
• 5:45
  the
• 5:45
  cortex.
• 5:46
  And
• 5:47
  we
• 5:47
  are
• 5:47
  coming
• 5:48
  into
• 5:48
  being.
• 5:49
  I
• 5:49
  mean,
• 5:49
  quite
• 5:49
  literally,
• 5:50
  we
• 5:50
  are
• 5:51
  developing
• 5:52
  new
• 5:52
  fiber
• 5:53
  paths.
• 5:54
  The
• 5:54
  networks
• 5:54
  that
• 5:55
  form
• 5:55
  us
• 5:55
  are
• 5:55
  still
• 5:56
  really
• 5:56
  coming
• 5:56
  into
• 5:56
  form
• 5:57
  in
• 5:57
  the
• 5:58
  early,
• 5:58
  early
• 5:59
  months
• 5:59
  of
• 5:59
  life.
• 6:00
  And
• 6:00
  so
• 6:00
  the
• 6:01
  malleability
• 6:02
  of
• 6:03
  us,
• 6:03
  of
• 6:03
  our.
• 6:03
  Of
• 6:04
  our
• 6:04
  neural
• 6:04
  networks,
• 6:04
  of
• 6:05
  our.
• 6:05
  Of
• 6:05
  our
• 6:05
  brains
• 6:05
  at
• 6:05
  that
• 6:06
  age
• 6:06
  makes
• 6:07
  us
• 6:07
  uniquely
• 6:07
  vulnerable.
• 6:08
  But
• 6:08
  then
• 6:08
  under
• 6:08
  the
• 6:09
  age
• 6:09
  of
• 6:09
  seven,
• 6:09
  it's
• 6:10
  really.
• 6:10
  It's
• 6:11
  really.
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  would
• 6:11
  say
• 6:11
  nine
• 6:12
  would
• 6:12
  be
• 6:12
  a
• 6:12
  threshold.
• 6:13
  And
• 6:13
  I
• 6:13
  sort
• 6:14
  of
• 6:14
  also
• 6:14
  would
• 6:14
  think
• 6:14
  about
• 6:14
  Noam
• 6:15
  Chomsky's
• 6:15
  language
• 6:15
  acquisition
• 6:16
  period,
• 6:16
  which
• 6:16
  ends
• 6:17
  at
• 6:17
  12,
• 6:17
  but
• 6:18
  under
• 6:18
  the
• 6:18
  age
• 6:18
  of
• 6:18
  nine,
• 6:19
  still
• 6:19
  making
• 6:20
  a
• 6:20
  great
• 6:20
  deal
• 6:20
  of
• 6:20
  theta
• 6:21
  content.
• 6:21
  And
• 6:22
  theta
• 6:22
  is
• 6:22
  reverie
• 6:23
  and
• 6:23
  daydream
• 6:23
  and
• 6:23
  fantasy
• 6:24
  and
• 6:24
  trance,
• 6:25
  but
• 6:25
  it
• 6:25
  also
• 6:26
  gives
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  world
• 6:26
  a
• 6:27
  magic
• 6:27
  hue.
• 6:28
  And
• 6:29
  so
• 6:29
  as
• 6:29
  children,
• 6:30
  you
• 6:31
  know,
• 6:31
  in
• 6:31
  my
• 6:31
  opinion,
• 6:32
  at
• 6:32
  least,
• 6:32
  it's
• 6:32
  theta
• 6:32
  that
• 6:33
  allows
• 6:33
  for
• 6:33
  the
• 6:34
  magic
• 6:34
  of
• 6:34
  Santa
• 6:34
  Claus
• 6:35
  and
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  Easter
• 6:35
  Bunny
• 6:36
  and
• 6:36
  the
• 6:36
  Tooth
• 6:36
  Fairy.
• 6:37
  But
• 6:37
  it
• 6:37
  also
• 6:38
  makes
• 6:38
  us
• 6:38
  uniquely
• 6:39
  susceptible
• 6:41
  to
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  integration
• 6:43
  of
• 6:43
  the
• 6:43
  trauma.
• 6:44
  Right.
• 6:44
  That
• 6:44
  occurs.
• 6:44
  And
• 6:45
  we.
• 6:45
  You
• 6:46
  will
• 6:46
  literally
• 6:46
  see
• 6:47
  different
• 6:47
  neurological
• 6:48
  patterns,
• 6:49
  right.
• 6:50
  And
• 6:50
  individuals
• 6:50
  who
• 6:51
  have
• 6:51
  been
• 6:51
  through
• 6:51
  developmental
• 6:52
  trauma.
• 6:53
  So,
• 6:54
  and
• 6:54
  one
• 6:54
  of
• 6:55
  the
• 6:55
  questions
• 6:55
  I
• 6:55
  know
• 6:55
  you
• 6:55
  mentioned
• 6:56
  here
• 6:56
  was
• 6:58
  talk
• 6:58
  about
• 6:58
  what
• 6:59
  EEG
• 6:59
  presentations
• 7:00
  for
• 7:01
  trauma
• 7:01
  are
• 7:03
  like.
• 7:03
  That's
• 7:03
  literally
• 7:04
  the
• 7:04
  brain.
• 7:04
  Like,
• 7:04
  you're
• 7:05
  being.
• 7:05
  You're
• 7:05
  very
• 7:05
  scientific.
• 7:06
  So
• 7:06
  I
• 7:06
  want
• 7:07
  to
• 7:07
  get
• 7:07
  some
• 7:07
  of
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  science,
• 7:08
  because
• 7:08
  people
• 7:08
  don't
• 7:08
  hear
• 7:09
  the
• 7:09
  science
• 7:09
  part
• 7:09
  of
• 7:09
  it
• 7:10
  a
• 7:10
  lot.
• 7:10
  They
• 7:10
  hear
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  layman's
• 7:11
  terms
• 7:11
  part
• 7:11
  of
• 7:12
  it.
• 7:12
  So
• 7:12
  what
• 7:12
  is
• 7:13
  going
• 7:13
  on
• 7:13
  in
• 7:13
  the
• 7:14
  brain
• 7:14
  when
• 7:14
  there
• 7:14
  is
• 7:14
  trauma?
• 7:18
  There's
• 7:18
  a
• 7:18
  handful
• 7:18
  of
• 7:18
  different
• 7:18
  ways
• 7:19
  it
• 7:19
  could
• 7:19
  Present,
• 7:19
  honestly.
• 7:20
  And
• 7:21
  we're
• 7:21
  all
• 7:21
  different
• 7:21
  beings,
• 7:22
  and
• 7:22
  so
• 7:22
  we're
• 7:22
  all
• 7:22
  going
• 7:22
  to
• 7:23
  receive
• 7:23
  that
• 7:23
  trauma
• 7:23
  very
• 7:24
  differently.
• 7:24
  There's
• 7:25
  a
• 7:25
  handful
• 7:25
  of
• 7:25
  markers
• 7:26
  of
• 7:26
  dissociation,
• 7:28
  and
• 7:29
  one
• 7:29
  that's
• 7:30
  actually
• 7:30
  considered
• 7:31
  neurotypical
• 7:32
  by
• 7:32
  a
• 7:32
  neurologist
• 7:32
  is
• 7:33
  called
• 7:33
  a
• 7:33
  mu
• 7:33
  rhythm.
• 7:33
  And
• 7:34
  a
• 7:34
  mu
• 7:34
  rhythm
• 7:34
  is
• 7:34
  in
• 7:34
  the
• 7:34
  alpha
• 7:35
  range,
• 7:35
  and
• 7:35
  it
• 7:35
  arrives
• 7:36
  over
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  sensory
• 7:37
  motor
• 7:37
  cortex.
• 7:38
  Just
• 7:38
  imagine
• 7:39
  you
• 7:39
  had
• 7:39
  a
• 7:39
  headband
• 7:39
  on
• 7:40
  your
• 7:40
  head,
• 7:40
  and
• 7:41
  at
• 7:41
  the
• 7:41
  left
• 7:41
  and
• 7:41
  the
• 7:41
  right
• 7:41
  side
• 7:42
  of
• 7:42
  the
• 7:42
  headband
• 7:42
  are
• 7:42
  regions
• 7:43
  that
• 7:43
  correspond
• 7:44
  to
• 7:44
  the
• 7:44
  contralateral
• 7:45
  sides
• 7:46
  of
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  bodies.
• 7:47
  Right
• 7:47
  hand,
• 7:47
  left
• 7:48
  hand,
• 7:48
  right
• 7:48
  hand,
• 7:49
  and
• 7:49
  vice
• 7:49
  versa
• 7:50
  with
• 7:50
  the.
• 7:50
  With
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  sensory
• 7:51
  motor
• 7:51
  cortex.
• 7:52
  And
• 7:52
  so
• 7:53
  what
• 7:53
  we
• 7:53
  can
• 7:53
  learn
• 7:53
  to
• 7:54
  do,
• 7:54
  you
• 7:55
  know,
• 7:55
  is
• 7:55
  generate
• 7:56
  this
• 7:56
  alpha
• 7:56
  rhythm,
• 7:57
  which
• 7:57
  is
• 7:57
  called
• 7:57
  mu.
• 7:58
  And
• 7:58
  I
• 7:58
  won't
• 7:58
  get
• 7:58
  into
• 7:59
  the
• 7:59
  why
• 7:59
  and
• 7:59
  this
• 8:00
  and
• 8:00
  the
• 8:00
  morphology
• 8:00
  and
• 8:01
  all
• 8:01
  the
• 8:01
  interesting
• 8:01
  pieces
• 8:02
  of
• 8:02
  it,
• 8:02
  because
• 8:02
  that's
• 8:02
  tmi.
• 8:03
  But
• 8:03
  what
• 8:03
  it
• 8:03
  is
• 8:04
  is
• 8:04
  it's
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  dissociative
• 8:05
  mechanism.
• 8:06
  It's
• 8:06
  a
• 8:06
  functional
• 8:07
  disengagement
• 8:07
  of
• 8:08
  the
• 8:08
  motor
• 8:08
  cortex,
• 8:09
  the
• 8:09
  sensory
• 8:10
  motor
• 8:10
  cortex.
• 8:11
  So
• 8:11
  let's
• 8:11
  say
• 8:11
  that
• 8:11
  you
• 8:11
  have
• 8:11
  a
• 8:12
  parent
• 8:12
  that's
• 8:12
  pecking
• 8:13
  at
• 8:13
  you,
• 8:13
  that's
• 8:13
  just
• 8:14
  nagging
• 8:14
  you
• 8:15
  and,
• 8:15
  you
• 8:15
  know,
• 8:15
  wagging
• 8:16
  their
• 8:16
  finger
• 8:16
  and
• 8:17
  telling
• 8:17
  you
• 8:17
  you're
• 8:17
  terrible.
• 8:17
  Unless
• 8:18
  that
• 8:18
  just
• 8:18
  happens
• 8:18
  all
• 8:18
  the
• 8:19
  time.
• 8:19
  They
• 8:19
  are
• 8:20
  always
• 8:20
  berating
• 8:20
  you,
• 8:21
  right?
• 8:22
  This
• 8:22
  is
• 8:22
  a
• 8:22
  defense
• 8:23
  mechanism.
• 8:23
  It
• 8:23
  actually
• 8:24
  operates
• 8:24
  as
• 8:24
  a
• 8:24
  bit
• 8:24
  of
• 8:24
  a
• 8:25
  shield.
• 8:25
  Right.
• 8:26
  So
• 8:26
  the
• 8:26
  individual
• 8:27
  can
• 8:27
  learn
• 8:27
  how
• 8:27
  to
• 8:27
  dissociate
• 8:28
  by
• 8:29
  generating
• 8:29
  this
• 8:30
  particular
• 8:30
  pattern
• 8:31
  in
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  brain.
• 8:31
  It's
• 8:31
  more
• 8:32
  of
• 8:32
  a
• 8:32
  pediatric
• 8:32
  pattern,
• 8:33
  but
• 8:33
  we
• 8:33
  can
• 8:33
  really
• 8:34
  instantiate,
• 8:35
  we
• 8:35
  can
• 8:35
  really
• 8:36
  cement
• 8:37
  that
• 8:37
  pattern
• 8:38
  as
• 8:39
  a
• 8:39
  means
• 8:39
  of,
• 8:39
  like,
• 8:39
  protecting
• 8:40
  self.
• 8:40
  Right.
• 8:41
  The
• 8:41
  other
• 8:41
  patterns
• 8:42
  of
• 8:42
  trauma,
• 8:43
  you
• 8:43
  know,
• 8:43
  of
• 8:43
  dissociation,
• 8:45
  are
• 8:45
  an
• 8:46
  anteriorized
• 8:47
  alpha
• 8:47
  and
• 8:47
  then
• 8:47
  anteriorized.
• 8:48
  Right
• 8:48
  posterior
• 8:49
  temporal
• 8:50
  alpha
• 8:50
  content
• 8:51
  as
• 8:51
  well.
• 8:51
  And
• 8:51
  so
• 8:52
  I'm
• 8:52
  talking
• 8:52
  a
• 8:53
  lot
• 8:53
  about
• 8:53
  alpha.
• 8:53
  And
• 8:53
  it's
• 8:54
  not
• 8:54
  exclusively
• 8:54
  the
• 8:55
  only
• 8:55
  pattern.
• 8:55
  There's.
• 8:55
  There's
• 8:56
  a
• 8:56
  handful
• 8:56
  more
• 8:56
  that
• 8:56
  I
• 8:57
  could
• 8:57
  touch
• 8:57
  on.
• 8:57
  But.
• 8:58
  But
• 8:59
  alpha
• 8:59
  is
• 8:59
  really,
• 8:59
  truly
• 9:00
  a
• 9:00
  functional
• 9:00
  dissociation
• 9:01
  in
• 9:02
  the
• 9:02
  front
• 9:02
  of
• 9:02
  our,
• 9:03
  of
• 9:03
  our,
• 9:03
  of
• 9:03
  our
• 9:03
  brain.
• 9:04
  The
• 9:04
  anterior
• 9:04
  cingulate,
• 9:05
  the
• 9:05
  old
• 9:06
  mammalian
• 9:06
  brain
• 9:07
  underneath
• 9:07
  the
• 9:07
  cortex,
• 9:08
  right?
• 9:08
  You
• 9:08
  push
• 9:09
  and
• 9:09
  you
• 9:10
  would
• 9:10
  touch
• 9:10
  the
• 9:10
  old
• 9:10
  mammalian
• 9:11
  brain
• 9:12
  that's
• 9:12
  responsible
• 9:12
  for
• 9:13
  love
• 9:13
  and
• 9:14
  grief
• 9:14
  and
• 9:15
  attachment.
• 9:16
  If
• 9:16
  you
• 9:16
  generate
• 9:17
  alpha
• 9:17
  from
• 9:17
  that
• 9:17
  part
• 9:17
  of
• 9:18
  your
• 9:18
  brain,
• 9:18
  you
• 9:18
  are
• 9:18
  shutting
• 9:19
  off
• 9:19
  that
• 9:20
  emotional
• 9:20
  center.
• 9:21
  It's.
• 9:21
  It
• 9:22
  can
• 9:22
  be
• 9:22
  a
• 9:22
  sort
• 9:22
  of
• 9:23
  deer
• 9:23
  in
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  headlights
• 9:24
  kind
• 9:24
  of
• 9:24
  checked
• 9:25
  out.
• 9:26
  And
• 9:26
  it's
• 9:26
  usually
• 9:26
  when
• 9:27
  something
• 9:27
  quite
• 9:27
  traumatic
• 9:28
  has
• 9:28
  happened
• 9:28
  and
• 9:28
  it
• 9:28
  sort
• 9:28
  of
• 9:29
  blasts
• 9:29
  you
• 9:29
  out
• 9:29
  of
• 9:29
  your
• 9:30
  body.
• 9:30
  And
• 9:31
  then
• 9:31
  there's
• 9:31
  a
• 9:32
  perceptual
• 9:32
  one
• 9:32
  at
• 9:33
  the
• 9:33
  right
• 9:33
  posterior
• 9:34
  temporal.
• 9:34
  So
• 9:34
  those
• 9:35
  are
• 9:35
  a
• 9:35
  handful
• 9:35
  of
• 9:35
  different
• 9:36
  patterns.
• 9:37
  But
• 9:38
  oftentimes,
• 9:39
  and
• 9:39
  this
• 9:39
  Is
• 9:39
  sort
• 9:39
  of
• 9:40
  what
• 9:40
  I've
• 9:40
  seen
• 9:40
  anecdotally
• 9:41
  for
• 9:42
  the
• 9:42
  past
• 9:42
  15
• 9:43
  years
• 9:44
  is,
• 9:44
  you
• 9:45
  know,
• 9:45
  sometimes
• 9:45
  we'll
• 9:45
  see
• 9:45
  centralized
• 9:46
  or
• 9:47
  bilateral,
• 9:47
  meaning
• 9:48
  both
• 9:48
  sides.
• 9:48
  Like,
• 9:48
  it
• 9:48
  looks
• 9:49
  like
• 9:49
  it's
• 9:49
  a
• 9:49
  mirrored
• 9:50
  expression
• 9:51
  of
• 9:51
  slow
• 9:51
  content,
• 9:52
  theta
• 9:52
  content,
• 9:53
  if
• 9:53
  trauma
• 9:54
  occurred
• 9:55
  in
• 9:56
  childhood
• 9:56
  underneath
• 9:57
  the
• 9:57
  age
• 9:57
  of
• 9:57
  nine,
• 9:58
  and
• 9:58
  centralized
• 9:59
  delta
• 9:59
  content
• 10:00
  if
• 10:00
  trauma
• 10:00
  occurred
• 10:01
  in
• 10:01
  infancy.
• 10:02
  So
• 10:04
  what
• 10:04
  I
• 10:05
  found,
• 10:05
  and
• 10:05
  you
• 10:06
  probably
• 10:06
  know
• 10:06
  this
• 10:07
  maybe
• 10:07
  from
• 10:08
  experience,
• 10:08
  maybe
• 10:08
  from
• 10:08
  your
• 10:09
  clients,
• 10:10
  when
• 10:10
  you
• 10:10
  are,
• 10:11
  when
• 10:11
  you
• 10:12
  are
• 10:12
  traumatized
• 10:12
  at
• 10:12
  a
• 10:13
  very
• 10:13
  young
• 10:13
  age,
• 10:14
  right?
• 10:14
  You
• 10:14
  develop
• 10:15
  a
• 10:15
  sensory
• 10:16
  perception
• 10:16
  of
• 10:17
  what's
• 10:17
  going
• 10:17
  on
• 10:17
  around
• 10:17
  you.
• 10:19
  Like
• 10:19
  you
• 10:19
  can
• 10:19
  read
• 10:19
  the.
• 10:20
  Read
• 10:20
  the
• 10:20
  room.
• 10:21
  You
• 10:21
  can
• 10:21
  read
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  vibrations
• 10:22
  of
• 10:22
  a
• 10:22
  room,
• 10:22
  right?
• 10:23
  And
• 10:23
  a
• 10:24
  lot
• 10:24
  of
• 10:24
  folks
• 10:24
  that
• 10:25
  have
• 10:25
  early,
• 10:25
  early
• 10:25
  developmental
• 10:26
  trauma,
• 10:26
  at
• 10:27
  least
• 10:27
  what
• 10:27
  I've
• 10:27
  seen,
• 10:28
  have
• 10:28
  highly
• 10:29
  perceived
• 10:29
  conceptual
• 10:30
  intuitive
• 10:31
  capabilities.
• 10:32
  Right?
• 10:33
  A
• 10:33
  lot
• 10:33
  of
• 10:33
  these
• 10:34
  people
• 10:34
  are,
• 10:34
  you
• 10:35
  would
• 10:35
  call
• 10:35
  them
• 10:35
  clar,
• 10:35
  audient,
• 10:36
  cl.
• 10:36
  Clair,
• 10:36
  sentient,
• 10:38
  clairvoyant,
• 10:39
  psychic.
• 10:40
  But
• 10:40
  there's,
• 10:41
  there's.
• 10:41
  There's
• 10:41
  silver
• 10:41
  linings
• 10:42
  that
• 10:42
  come
• 10:42
  with,
• 10:42
  with,
• 10:43
  with
• 10:43
  these
• 10:44
  experiences.
• 10:45
  And
• 10:45
  also
• 10:46
  I've
• 10:46
  seen
• 10:46
  that
• 10:46
  individuals
• 10:47
  that
• 10:47
  are
• 10:47
  able
• 10:47
  to
• 10:48
  shift
• 10:48
  into
• 10:48
  a
• 10:49
  theta
• 10:49
  range,
• 10:50
  right?
• 10:50
  A
• 10:50
  lot
• 10:50
  of
• 10:50
  healers
• 10:51
  are
• 10:51
  able
• 10:51
  to
• 10:51
  do
• 10:51
  this,
• 10:51
  and
• 10:52
  that's
• 10:52
  a
• 10:52
  whole
• 10:52
  separate
• 10:52
  topic.
• 10:54
  They
• 10:54
  are
• 10:55
  more
• 10:56
  available
• 10:57
  as
• 10:57
  a.
• 10:58
  I'll
• 10:58
  just
• 10:58
  say
• 10:58
  a
• 10:59
  medium
• 10:59
  through
• 10:59
  which
• 11:00
  healing
• 11:00
  can
• 11:00
  occur.
• 11:01
  So
• 11:02
  there's
• 11:02
  something
• 11:02
  about
• 11:02
  the
• 11:03
  opening
• 11:03
  of.
• 11:03
  Of
• 11:04
  a
• 11:04
  channel,
• 11:04
  however
• 11:04
  you
• 11:05
  want
• 11:05
  to
• 11:05
  think
• 11:05
  about
• 11:05
  this.
• 11:05
  Something
• 11:05
  about
• 11:06
  the
• 11:06
  opening
• 11:06
  of
• 11:06
  self
• 11:07
  to
• 11:07
  these
• 11:08
  deeper
• 11:08
  frequencies,
• 11:09
  these
• 11:09
  more
• 11:09
  subcortical
• 11:10
  frequencies
• 11:10
  that
• 11:11
  avail
• 11:12
  some
• 11:12
  special
• 11:12
  gifts
• 11:13
  to
• 11:13
  people
• 11:13
  that
• 11:14
  have
• 11:14
  been
• 11:14
  traumatized.
• 11:15
  Well,
• 11:15
  I
• 11:15
  definitely
• 11:15
  can
• 11:16
  see
• 11:16
  where
• 11:16
  you're
• 11:16
  talking
• 11:17
  about
• 11:17
  with
• 11:17
  the
• 11:17
  hypersensitivity.
• 11:18
  I
• 11:19
  mean,
• 11:19
  people
• 11:19
  have
• 11:19
  said
• 11:19
  that
• 11:19
  to
• 11:20
  me
• 11:20
  forever.
• 11:21
  Like
• 11:21
  when
• 11:21
  I
• 11:21
  was
• 11:21
  in
• 11:21
  my
• 11:22
  teens
• 11:22
  or
• 11:22
  I
• 11:22
  was
• 11:22
  in
• 11:22
  college,
• 11:23
  I
• 11:23
  could
• 11:23
  walk
• 11:23
  into
• 11:23
  a
• 11:24
  room,
• 11:24
  literally
• 11:24
  like
• 11:24
  a
• 11:25
  networking
• 11:25
  type
• 11:26
  place,
• 11:27
  and
• 11:27
  I
• 11:27
  could
• 11:27
  get
• 11:28
  certain
• 11:28
  vibes
• 11:29
  off
• 11:29
  people
• 11:29
  and
• 11:29
  be
• 11:30
  like,
• 11:30
  yeah,
• 11:30
  no,
• 11:30
  I
• 11:30
  don't
• 11:30
  want
• 11:30
  to
• 11:31
  talk
• 11:31
  to
• 11:31
  them.
• 11:31
  Yes,
• 11:31
  I
• 11:31
  do.
• 11:32
  Like,
• 11:32
  I
• 11:32
  just
• 11:32
  got
• 11:32
  these
• 11:33
  vibes
• 11:33
  and
• 11:33
  people.
• 11:33
  And
• 11:34
  then
• 11:34
  later,
• 11:34
  people
• 11:34
  be
• 11:35
  like,
• 11:35
  how
• 11:35
  did
• 11:35
  you
• 11:35
  know
• 11:35
  you.
• 11:36
  Like,
• 11:36
  I
• 11:36
  wouldn't
• 11:36
  like
• 11:37
  them.
• 11:37
  I'm
• 11:37
  like,
• 11:37
  I
• 11:38
  don't
• 11:38
  know
• 11:38
  how
• 11:38
  I
• 11:39
  knew.
• 11:39
  But
• 11:40
  let
• 11:40
  me
• 11:40
  ask
• 11:40
  you
• 11:40
  a
• 11:41
  question,
• 11:41
  since
• 11:41
  I
• 11:41
  got
• 11:41
  you
• 11:42
  on
• 11:42
  here
• 11:42
  and
• 11:42
  you
• 11:42
  know,
• 11:42
  the
• 11:43
  whole
• 11:43
  science,
• 11:43
  the
• 11:43
  brain
• 11:44
  thing
• 11:44
  and
• 11:44
  all
• 11:44
  that
• 11:44
  stuff.
• 11:45
  So
• 11:46
  I
• 11:46
  tend
• 11:47
  to
• 11:47
  say
• 11:47
  that
• 11:47
  I
• 11:47
  am
• 11:47
  a
• 11:47
  huge
• 11:48
  dissociator.
• 11:48
  I
• 11:49
  have
• 11:49
  experiences
• 11:49
  where,
• 11:50
  like,
• 11:50
  when
• 11:50
  very
• 11:50
  traumatic
• 11:51
  things
• 11:51
  were
• 11:51
  happening
• 11:52
  in
• 11:52
  my
• 11:52
  younger
• 11:53
  years,
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  would
• 11:54
  watch
• 11:54
  it
• 11:54
  from
• 11:55
  outside
• 11:55
  my
• 11:55
  body.
• 11:56
  And
• 11:56
  I
• 11:56
  used
• 11:57
  to
• 11:57
  be
• 11:57
  like,
• 11:57
  I
• 11:57
  literally
• 11:58
  could
• 11:58
  do
• 11:58
  it,
• 11:58
  like
• 11:59
  my
• 11:59
  son.
• 11:59
  And
• 11:59
  even
• 12:00
  when
• 12:00
  I
• 12:00
  became
• 12:00
  an
• 12:00
  adult,
• 12:01
  my
• 12:01
  son
• 12:01
  put
• 12:01
  a
• 12:01
  knife
• 12:02
  through
• 12:02
  his
• 12:02
  hand
• 12:02
  one
• 12:03
  day
• 12:04
  and
• 12:04
  I
• 12:05
  rocked
• 12:05
  back
• 12:06
  and
• 12:06
  forth
• 12:06
  on
• 12:06
  the
• 12:06
  floor
• 12:07
  with
• 12:07
  him.
• 12:07
  And
• 12:08
  I
• 12:08
  literally
• 12:08
  gave
• 12:09
  every
• 12:09
  single
• 12:09
  person
• 12:09
  in
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  room
• 12:10
  an
• 12:10
  instruction.
• 12:11
  But
• 12:11
  while
• 12:11
  I
• 12:12
  was
• 12:12
  doing
• 12:12
  that,
• 12:12
  I
• 12:12
  was
• 12:13
  standing
• 12:13
  outside
• 12:14
  watching
• 12:14
  me
• 12:14
  rock
• 12:15
  him
• 12:15
  back
• 12:15
  and
• 12:15
  forth,
• 12:16
  giving
• 12:16
  everybody
• 12:17
  the
• 12:17
  instruction.
• 12:19
  But
• 12:20
  I
• 12:20
  didn't
• 12:20
  remember
• 12:21
  it
• 12:21
  until
• 12:21
  much
• 12:21
  later.
• 12:22
  Like
• 12:23
  they
• 12:23
  were
• 12:23
  like,
• 12:23
  wow,
• 12:24
  you
• 12:24
  were
• 12:24
  so
• 12:24
  calm.
• 12:25
  When
• 12:25
  I
• 12:25
  had
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  stroke,
• 12:26
  same
• 12:26
  thing.
• 12:27
  I
• 12:27
  stood
• 12:27
  outside
• 12:28
  my
• 12:28
  body
• 12:28
  and
• 12:29
  I
• 12:29
  watched
• 12:29
  myself
• 12:30
  what,
• 12:31
  what
• 12:32
  I
• 12:32
  was
• 12:32
  trying
• 12:32
  to
• 12:32
  say,
• 12:33
  what
• 12:33
  was
• 12:33
  in
• 12:33
  my
• 12:33
  brain
• 12:33
  and
• 12:34
  then
• 12:34
  what
• 12:34
  was
• 12:34
  coming
• 12:34
  out
• 12:35
  of
• 12:35
  my
• 12:35
  mouth.
• 12:36
  So
• 12:36
  what
• 12:36
  is
• 12:37
  that?
• 12:39
  Yeah,
• 12:40
  well,
• 12:40
  I
• 12:40
  mean,
• 12:41
  you
• 12:41
  know,
• 12:41
  I,
• 12:41
  I
• 12:42
  would
• 12:42
  love
• 12:42
  to
• 12:42
  explain
• 12:43
  that
• 12:43
  neurologically
• 12:44
  and
• 12:45
  at
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  same
• 12:45
  time,
• 12:46
  I
• 12:46
  don't
• 12:47
  know
• 12:47
  if
• 12:47
  I
• 12:47
  can
• 12:47
  actually
• 12:48
  do
• 12:48
  it
• 12:48
  justice.
• 12:48
  I
• 12:49
  mean,
• 12:49
  I
• 12:49
  do
• 12:50
  think
• 12:50
  that
• 12:50
  what
• 12:50
  you're
• 12:50
  describing
• 12:51
  is
• 12:51
  the
• 12:51
  phenomenon
• 12:52
  that
• 12:52
  happens
• 12:52
  to
• 12:52
  individuals
• 12:53
  who
• 12:53
  have
• 12:53
  dissociative
• 12:54
  identity
• 12:54
  disorder,
• 12:56
  right?
• 12:57
  So
• 12:57
  in
• 12:57
  dissociative
• 12:58
  identity
• 12:58
  disorder,
• 12:59
  you
• 13:00
  know,
• 13:00
  in
• 13:00
  my
• 13:00
  opinion,
• 13:01
  and
• 13:01
  this
• 13:01
  is
• 13:01
  a
• 13:01
  theoretical
• 13:02
  interpretation
• 13:02
  of
• 13:02
  what's
• 13:02
  happening,
• 13:03
  but
• 13:04
  you
• 13:04
  have
• 13:05
  to
• 13:05
  leave
• 13:05
  your
• 13:05
  body.
• 13:06
  You
• 13:06
  have
• 13:06
  to
• 13:06
  leave
• 13:07
  your
• 13:07
  body.
• 13:07
  It's
• 13:08
  actually,
• 13:09
  it's
• 13:10
  actually
• 13:10
  a
• 13:10
  brilliant
• 13:11
  mechanism
• 13:12
  that
• 13:12
  we've
• 13:12
  been
• 13:13
  endowed
• 13:13
  with
• 13:13
  and
• 13:14
  we
• 13:14
  can
• 13:14
  think
• 13:14
  of
• 13:14
  it
• 13:14
  spiritually.
• 13:15
  I
• 13:15
  think
• 13:15
  that
• 13:16
  for
• 13:16
  some
• 13:16
  that's
• 13:16
  really
• 13:16
  very
• 13:17
  comforting,
• 13:18
  this
• 13:18
  idea
• 13:18
  that,
• 13:19
  you
• 13:19
  know,
• 13:19
  we
• 13:20
  can
• 13:20
  escape.
• 13:21
  So
• 13:21
  I
• 13:21
  think
• 13:22
  about
• 13:22
  that
• 13:22
  more
• 13:22
  from,
• 13:23
  from
• 13:23
  a
• 13:23
  spiritual
• 13:24
  perspective.
• 13:25
  And
• 13:25
  if
• 13:26
  you
• 13:26
  look
• 13:26
  at
• 13:26
  sort
• 13:26
  of
• 13:27
  the
• 13:27
  lives
• 13:27
  and
• 13:27
  teachings
• 13:28
  of,
• 13:28
  you
• 13:28
  know,
• 13:28
  some
• 13:29
  of
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  great
• 13:29
  masters
• 13:29
  over
• 13:30
  time,
• 13:30
  there
• 13:31
  was
• 13:31
  the
• 13:31
  ability
• 13:31
  to
• 13:32
  transpose
• 13:32
  oneself
• 13:33
  in
• 13:33
  space
• 13:33
  and
• 13:33
  time.
• 13:35
  Meaning
• 13:35
  you
• 13:36
  could
• 13:36
  be
• 13:36
  two
• 13:36
  places
• 13:36
  at
• 13:37
  once
• 13:37
  actually.
• 13:38
  And
• 13:38
  so
• 13:39
  I
• 13:39
  don't
• 13:39
  know
• 13:39
  that
• 13:39
  what
• 13:40
  you're
• 13:40
  describing
• 13:40
  has
• 13:40
  ever
• 13:41
  been
• 13:41
  quantified
• 13:42
  or
• 13:42
  measured
• 13:43
  neurologically.
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  mean,
• 13:44
  of
• 13:44
  course
• 13:44
  there's,
• 13:45
  you
• 13:45
  know,
• 13:45
  there's
• 13:46
  near
• 13:46
  death
• 13:46
  experiences,
• 13:47
  right,
• 13:48
  where
• 13:48
  individuals
• 13:48
  report,
• 13:49
  you
• 13:49
  know,
• 13:49
  floating
• 13:50
  above
• 13:50
  their
• 13:50
  body
• 13:51
  and,
• 13:51
  you
• 13:51
  know,
• 13:51
  they
• 13:52
  go,
• 13:52
  they
• 13:52
  go
• 13:52
  brain
• 13:52
  dead
• 13:53
  or
• 13:53
  the
• 13:53
  heart
• 13:53
  stops
• 13:53
  beating
• 13:53
  or
• 13:53
  that
• 13:54
  kind
• 13:54
  of
• 13:54
  thing.
• 13:55
  But
• 13:55
  what
• 13:56
  I
• 13:56
  can
• 13:56
  say
• 13:56
  about
• 13:56
  did,
• 13:57
  right,
• 13:58
  Individuals
• 13:58
  that
• 13:58
  have
• 13:59
  come
• 13:59
  in
• 13:59
  with
• 13:59
  dissociative
• 13:59
  identity
• 14:00
  disorder
• 14:01
  is
• 14:01
  that
• 14:02
  they
• 14:02
  will.
• 14:03
  You
• 14:03
  can
• 14:03
  see
• 14:04
  alters
• 14:04
  come
• 14:04
  in,
• 14:05
  you
• 14:05
  can
• 14:05
  see
• 14:06
  different,
• 14:06
  different
• 14:07
  profiles
• 14:08
  of
• 14:08
  different
• 14:09
  cells,
• 14:10
  right.
• 14:10
  I
• 14:10
  always
• 14:11
  just
• 14:11
  was
• 14:11
  like,
• 14:11
  I
• 14:12
  don't
• 14:12
  know,
• 14:12
  it's
• 14:12
  just
• 14:12
  something
• 14:12
  that
• 14:13
  my
• 14:13
  body
• 14:13
  does
• 14:13
  because
• 14:14
  it
• 14:14
  need,
• 14:14
  like
• 14:15
  you
• 14:15
  said,
• 14:15
  it
• 14:15
  needs
• 14:15
  to.
• 14:16
  When
• 14:16
  I
• 14:16
  was
• 14:16
  having
• 14:17
  very
• 14:17
  traumatic
• 14:18
  experiences
• 14:19
  when
• 14:19
  I
• 14:19
  was
• 14:19
  a
• 14:19
  young
• 14:19
  child,
• 14:20
  I.
• 14:20
  There
• 14:20
  was
• 14:20
  no
• 14:20
  pain,
• 14:21
  there
• 14:21
  was,
• 14:21
  it
• 14:21
  was
• 14:21
  just
• 14:22
  watching
• 14:23
  kind
• 14:23
  of
• 14:23
  with
• 14:23
  a
• 14:24
  clean
• 14:25
  slate.
• 14:25
  I
• 14:26
  actually
• 14:26
  did
• 14:26
  a,
• 14:27
  an
• 14:27
  interview
• 14:27
  with
• 14:28
  a
• 14:28
  gentleman
• 14:28
  who
• 14:29
  had
• 14:30
  a
• 14:30
  13
• 14:31
  year
• 14:32
  dissociative
• 14:33
  amnesia,
• 14:34
  amnesiac,
• 14:34
  whatever
• 14:35
  you
• 14:35
  call
• 14:35
  it.
• 14:36
  He
• 14:36
  literally
• 14:36
  for
• 14:36
  13
• 14:37
  years
• 14:37
  was
• 14:38
  out
• 14:38
  writing
• 14:38
  articles
• 14:39
  and
• 14:39
  doing
• 14:39
  all
• 14:39
  kinds
• 14:40
  of
• 14:40
  things
• 14:40
  and
• 14:40
  really
• 14:41
  wasn't
• 14:42
  in.
• 14:42
  He
• 14:42
  wasn't
• 14:43
  in.
• 14:43
  He
• 14:43
  didn't
• 14:44
  know
• 14:44
  who
• 14:44
  he
• 14:44
  was,
• 14:44
  really.
• 14:44
  Well,
• 14:45
  I
• 14:45
  don't
• 14:45
  say
• 14:45
  he
• 14:46
  didn't
• 14:46
  know
• 14:46
  who
• 14:46
  he
• 14:46
  was,
• 14:46
  but
• 14:46
  he
• 14:47
  was
• 14:47
  writing
• 14:47
  about
• 14:47
  his
• 14:48
  story.
• 14:48
  When
• 14:48
  he
• 14:48
  came
• 14:49
  back
• 14:49
  13
• 14:50
  years
• 14:50
  later,
• 14:51
  his
• 14:51
  family
• 14:52
  had,
• 14:52
  like,
• 14:52
  lawsuits
• 14:53
  against
• 14:53
  him
• 14:53
  because
• 14:53
  he
• 14:53
  had
• 14:54
  published
• 14:54
  all
• 14:54
  these
• 14:54
  books
• 14:54
  about
• 14:55
  his
• 14:55
  story
• 14:55
  and
• 14:55
  his
• 14:56
  trauma.
• 14:56
  And
• 14:57
  it
• 14:57
  was
• 14:57
  really
• 14:57
  interesting.
• 14:59
  But
• 14:59
  I
• 14:59
  mean,
• 14:59
  the
• 15:00
  brain
• 15:00
  is
• 15:01
  amazing
• 15:02
  and
• 15:03
  complicated,
• 15:04
  but
• 15:05
  we
• 15:05
  need
• 15:05
  one.
• 15:06
  I
• 15:06
  figured
• 15:07
  since
• 15:07
  I
• 15:07
  have
• 15:07
  you
• 15:07
  on
• 15:07
  here,
• 15:07
  I'll
• 15:08
  ask
• 15:08
  what
• 15:08
  your.
• 15:09
  What
• 15:09
  your
• 15:09
  takeout
• 15:10
  was
• 15:10
  on
• 15:10
  that.
• 15:10
  So
• 15:11
  do
• 15:12
  you.
• 15:12
  You
• 15:13
  asked
• 15:13
  a
• 15:13
  question,
• 15:13
  and
• 15:13
  I
• 15:14
  love
• 15:14
  this
• 15:14
  because
• 15:15
  I
• 15:15
  wish
• 15:15
  we
• 15:15
  had
• 15:15
  all
• 15:16
  day
• 15:16
  to
• 15:16
  talk
• 15:16
  to
• 15:16
  you.
• 15:16
  But
• 15:18
  knowing
• 15:18
  that,
• 15:19
  or
• 15:20
  you
• 15:20
  asked,
• 15:20
  is
• 15:20
  trauma
• 15:21
  fundamentally
• 15:22
  a
• 15:22
  biological
• 15:24
  problem
• 15:24
  or
• 15:25
  a
• 15:25
  psychological
• 15:26
  problem?
• 15:26
  And
• 15:27
  if
• 15:27
  so,
• 15:28
  what
• 15:29
  do
• 15:29
  parents
• 15:29
  or
• 15:30
  caregivers
• 15:31
  need
• 15:31
  to
• 15:32
  know?
• 15:32
  Or
• 15:32
  what
• 15:32
  do
• 15:32
  you
• 15:32
  think
• 15:33
  you
• 15:33
  want
• 15:33
  them
• 15:33
  to
• 15:34
  know?
• 15:35
  So
• 15:35
  I'm
• 15:35
  going
• 15:35
  to
• 15:35
  repeat
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  question
• 15:36
  to
• 15:36
  make
• 15:36
  sure
• 15:36
  I
• 15:36
  understand.
• 15:37
  Is
• 15:37
  trauma
• 15:37
  fundamentally
• 15:38
  a
• 15:38
  biological
• 15:39
  or
• 15:39
  a
• 15:39
  psychological
• 15:39
  problem?
• 15:40
  Is
• 15:40
  that
• 15:40
  the
• 15:40
  question?
• 15:41
  Yeah.
• 15:42
  You.
• 15:42
  Yeah.
• 15:42
  It
• 15:42
  says,
• 15:42
  if
• 15:43
  trauma
• 15:43
  is
• 15:43
  fundamentally
• 15:44
  a
• 15:44
  biology
• 15:45
  problem
• 15:45
  as
• 15:46
  much
• 15:46
  as
• 15:46
  a
• 15:46
  psychology
• 15:47
  problem,
• 15:47
  what
• 15:47
  is
• 15:48
  the
• 15:48
  biggest
• 15:48
  thing
• 15:48
  you
• 15:48
  wish
• 15:49
  every
• 15:49
  parent,
• 15:50
  therapist
• 15:50
  or
• 15:50
  educator
• 15:51
  understood?
• 15:52
  The
• 15:53
  mind
• 15:53
  and
• 15:53
  the
• 15:53
  brain
• 15:53
  are
• 15:53
  inextricably
• 15:54
  linked.
• 15:56
  And
• 15:56
  what
• 15:56
  I'm
• 15:56
  saying
• 15:56
  is
• 15:57
  that
• 15:57
  the
• 15:57
  physiology,
• 15:58
  biology
• 15:59
  and
• 15:59
  the
• 15:59
  psychology
• 15:59
  are
• 15:59
  inextricably
• 16:00
  linked.
• 16:01
  They're
• 16:01
  two
• 16:01
  sides
• 16:01
  of
• 16:01
  a
• 16:01
  coin.
• 16:02
  And
• 16:02
  then
• 16:02
  the
• 16:02
  body
• 16:03
  and
• 16:03
  the
• 16:04
  mind
• 16:04
  are
• 16:04
  also
• 16:04
  linked.
• 16:05
  I
• 16:05
  believe
• 16:06
  honestly,
• 16:06
  that
• 16:06
  there's
• 16:07
  the
• 16:07
  ability
• 16:07
  to
• 16:08
  heal
• 16:08
  a
• 16:08
  great
• 16:08
  deal.
• 16:09
  For
• 16:09
  some
• 16:09
  cases
• 16:10
  of
• 16:10
  really
• 16:11
  severe
• 16:11
  trauma,
• 16:12
  it's
• 16:12
  pretty
• 16:12
  hard
• 16:13
  to
• 16:13
  come
• 16:13
  back.
• 16:14
  But
• 16:15
  the
• 16:16
  modalities
• 16:16
  of
• 16:17
  addressing
• 16:17
  this
• 16:17
  kind
• 16:18
  of
• 16:18
  thing,
• 16:19
  you
• 16:19
  know,
• 16:19
  most
• 16:19
  of
• 16:19
  us
• 16:20
  know
• 16:20
  about
• 16:20
  therapy.
• 16:22
  What
• 16:22
  I
• 16:22
  do,
• 16:23
  what
• 16:23
  I'm
• 16:23
  an
• 16:23
  expert
• 16:23
  in
• 16:24
  and
• 16:24
  beyond,
• 16:24
  beyond
• 16:25
  analysis,
• 16:26
  is
• 16:26
  different
• 16:27
  forms
• 16:27
  of
• 16:28
  multimodal
• 16:29
  stimulation,
• 16:29
  multimodal
• 16:30
  neurostimulation,
• 16:31
  or
• 16:31
  brain
• 16:32
  stimulation.
• 16:33
  And
• 16:33
  so,
• 16:34
  you
• 16:34
  know,
• 16:34
  what
• 16:35
  my
• 16:35
  expertise
• 16:36
  is
• 16:36
  and
• 16:36
  what
• 16:36
  I
• 16:37
  teach
• 16:37
  people
• 16:37
  to
• 16:37
  do
• 16:37
  and
• 16:38
  what
• 16:39
  folks
• 16:39
  who
• 16:39
  use
• 16:40
  our
• 16:40
  system
• 16:40
  all
• 16:40
  over
• 16:40
  the
• 16:40
  planet
• 16:41
  do
• 16:41
  is
• 16:41
  they
• 16:42
  address
• 16:42
  the
• 16:42
  physiology,
• 16:43
  we
• 16:43
  address
• 16:43
  the
• 16:44
  biology.
• 16:45
  Right.
• 16:45
  Because
• 16:46
  you
• 16:46
  can,
• 16:46
  you
• 16:46
  can,
• 16:46
  you
• 16:46
  can
• 16:47
  address
• 16:47
  the
• 16:47
  psychology,
• 16:47
  you
• 16:48
  can
• 16:48
  address
• 16:48
  the
• 16:48
  mind,
• 16:48
  and
• 16:49
  that's
• 16:49
  great,
• 16:50
  but
• 16:50
  it's
• 16:50
  one
• 16:50
  side
• 16:50
  of
• 16:50
  the
• 16:50
  coin.
• 16:51
  And
• 16:51
  if
• 16:52
  you
• 16:52
  find
• 16:52
  that
• 16:53
  patients
• 16:54
  keep
• 16:54
  going
• 16:54
  back
• 16:54
  to
• 16:54
  the
• 16:55
  way
• 16:55
  that
• 16:55
  they
• 16:55
  were,
• 16:55
  or
• 16:55
  an
• 16:56
  individual
• 16:56
  who's
• 16:56
  listening,
• 16:57
  who
• 16:57
  might
• 16:57
  be
• 16:57
  like,
• 16:57
  you
• 16:57
  know,
• 16:57
  I've
• 16:58
  done
• 16:58
  all
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  talk
• 16:58
  therapy
• 16:59
  in
• 16:59
  the
• 16:59
  world
• 16:59
  and
• 16:59
  I
• 16:59
  just
• 16:59
  can't
• 16:59
  do
• 17:00
  it
• 17:00
  anymore,
• 17:01
  chances
• 17:01
  are
• 17:01
  good
• 17:01
  that
• 17:01
  they've
• 17:02
  actually
• 17:02
  greased
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  skids
• 17:03
  for
• 17:04
  their
• 17:04
  biology
• 17:04
  to
• 17:05
  change.
• 17:06
  But
• 17:06
  we
• 17:07
  use
• 17:07
  a
• 17:07
  non
• 17:07
  invasive
• 17:08
  stimulation
• 17:09
  system
• 17:10
  that
• 17:10
  we
• 17:11
  created
• 17:11
  to
• 17:11
  shift
• 17:12
  the
• 17:12
  biology.
• 17:13
  And
• 17:13
  sometimes
• 17:14
  it
• 17:14
  moves
• 17:14
  pretty
• 17:14
  rapidly.
• 17:16
  Right?
• 17:16
  Yeah,
• 17:18
  that's.
• 17:18
  I
• 17:18
  mean,
• 17:18
  half
• 17:19
  my
• 17:19
  podcast
• 17:19
  episodes
• 17:20
  are
• 17:20
  about
• 17:20
  how
• 17:21
  Everything
• 17:21
  is
• 17:21
  stored
• 17:21
  in
• 17:22
  the
• 17:22
  body
• 17:22
  and
• 17:22
  you
• 17:22
  can
• 17:23
  do
• 17:23
  all
• 17:23
  the
• 17:23
  talking
• 17:24
  you
• 17:24
  want,
• 17:24
  but
• 17:24
  if
• 17:24
  it's
• 17:25
  stored
• 17:25
  in
• 17:25
  your
• 17:25
  nervous
• 17:25
  system
• 17:26
  and
• 17:26
  it's
• 17:26
  firing
• 17:27
  rapidly,
• 17:28
  you
• 17:28
  can't
• 17:29
  talk
• 17:29
  yourself
• 17:29
  out
• 17:29
  of
• 17:30
  a
• 17:30
  full
• 17:30
  blown
• 17:31
  anxiety
• 17:31
  attack.
• 17:32
  You
• 17:32
  know,
• 17:32
  it's
• 17:33
  like
• 17:33
  you
• 17:33
  have
• 17:33
  to
• 17:33
  calm
• 17:34
  that
• 17:34
  nervous
• 17:34
  system
• 17:35
  and
• 17:35
  that's
• 17:35
  biology.
• 17:36
  That
• 17:36
  is
• 17:36
  literally
• 17:36
  your
• 17:37
  body
• 17:37
  firing
• 17:38
  or
• 17:38
  over
• 17:38
  firing
• 17:39
  or
• 17:39
  whatever
• 17:40
  that
• 17:40
  is.
• 17:41
  So,
• 17:41
  I
• 17:41
  mean,
• 17:42
  yes,
• 17:42
  that's,
• 17:43
  I
• 17:43
  100
• 17:44
  agree.
• 17:44
  And
• 17:45
  then
• 17:45
  it
• 17:45
  looks
• 17:45
  like,
• 17:46
  I
• 17:46
  mean,
• 17:46
  in
• 17:46
  just
• 17:46
  talking
• 17:47
  to
• 17:47
  you,
• 17:48
  you
• 17:48
  bring
• 17:48
  in
• 17:48
  the
• 17:49
  whole
• 17:49
  body,
• 17:49
  mind
• 17:50
  and
• 17:50
  spirit.
• 17:50
  Like
• 17:50
  you
• 17:51
  talked
• 17:51
  about
• 17:51
  the
• 17:51
  spiritual
• 17:52
  side.
• 17:52
  I
• 17:52
  don't
• 17:52
  know
• 17:53
  if
• 17:53
  you
• 17:53
  work
• 17:53
  with
• 17:53
  that
• 17:53
  at
• 17:54
  all
• 17:54
  or.
• 17:55
  No.
• 17:55
  Yes.
• 17:56
  Yeah,
• 17:56
  no,
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  do
• 17:57
  actually,
• 17:57
  but
• 17:58
  I
• 17:58
  don't
• 17:58
  get
• 17:58
  asked
• 17:58
  about
• 17:58
  it
• 17:59
  very
• 17:59
  much.
• 17:59
  I
• 17:59
  mean,
• 18:00
  may
• 18:00
  as
• 18:00
  well
• 18:00
  talk
• 18:00
  about
• 18:00
  it
• 18:01
  here.
• 18:01
  Why
• 18:01
  not?
• 18:01
  But
• 18:02
  I
• 18:03
  was
• 18:03
  doing
• 18:03
  something
• 18:04
  with
• 18:04
  my
• 18:04
  patients
• 18:04
  for
• 18:05
  a
• 18:05
  while,
• 18:05
  so
• 18:05
  I'm,
• 18:05
  I'm
• 18:06
  a
• 18:06
  true
• 18:06
  Aquarian
• 18:07
  in
• 18:07
  the
• 18:07
  sense
• 18:07
  that
• 18:08
  I,
• 18:08
  you
• 18:08
  know,
• 18:08
  I'm
• 18:09
  working
• 18:09
  with
• 18:09
  brain
• 18:09
  stimulation
• 18:10
  modalities
• 18:10
  that
• 18:10
  aren't
• 18:11
  really
• 18:11
  known
• 18:11
  about
• 18:12
  out
• 18:12
  there.
• 18:12
  Very
• 18:12
  uni.
• 18:13
  Customized
• 18:14
  modalities.
• 18:14
  And
• 18:15
  I'm
• 18:15
  a
• 18:15
  psychotherapist.
• 18:16
  Right.
• 18:16
  My,
• 18:16
  my
• 18:17
  therapeutic
• 18:17
  training,
• 18:17
  I'm
• 18:18
  an
• 18:18
  lmft,
• 18:18
  a
• 18:18
  marriage
• 18:19
  and
• 18:19
  family
• 18:19
  therapist.
• 18:20
  Was,
• 18:20
  was
• 18:20
  Jungian.
• 18:21
  Right.
• 18:22
  So
• 18:22
  depth
• 18:23
  and
• 18:23
  so
• 18:23
  that's
• 18:24
  very,
• 18:24
  oh
• 18:24
  gosh.
• 18:24
  I
• 18:25
  mean,
• 18:25
  it's
• 18:25
  just,
• 18:26
  it's,
• 18:26
  it's
• 18:26
  spiritual
• 18:27
  innately
• 18:27
  in
• 18:28
  its
• 18:28
  own
• 18:28
  right,
• 18:28
  sort
• 18:29
  of,
• 18:29
  but,
• 18:29
  but
• 18:29
  not
• 18:30
  in
• 18:30
  any
• 18:30
  sort
• 18:30
  of
• 18:30
  religious
• 18:31
  sense.
• 18:31
  I
• 18:31
  was
• 18:32
  doing
• 18:32
  something
• 18:32
  with
• 18:33
  my
• 18:33
  patients
• 18:33
  where
• 18:34
  I
• 18:34
  would
• 18:34
  lay
• 18:34
  them
• 18:34
  down
• 18:34
  on
• 18:35
  a
• 18:35
  very
• 18:35
  nice
• 18:35
  soft
• 18:36
  bed
• 18:36
  and
• 18:37
  I
• 18:37
  would
• 18:37
  use
• 18:37
  a
• 18:38
  very
• 18:38
  slow
• 18:38
  parasympathetic
• 18:39
  frequency,
• 18:40
  maybe
• 18:40
  a
• 18:40
  pediatric
• 18:41
  parasympathetic
• 18:41
  frequency,
• 18:42
  which
• 18:42
  is
• 18:42
  akin
• 18:42
  to
• 18:43
  an
• 18:43
  emdr.
• 18:44
  Then
• 18:44
  I
• 18:44
  would
• 18:45
  dim
• 18:45
  the
• 18:45
  lights,
• 18:46
  put
• 18:46
  a
• 18:46
  soft
• 18:46
  blanket
• 18:47
  over
• 18:47
  them
• 18:47
  and
• 18:47
  sit
• 18:47
  next
• 18:47
  to
• 18:48
  them
• 18:48
  and
• 18:49
  move
• 18:49
  into
• 18:49
  a
• 18:50
  relaxation
• 18:51
  exercise,
• 18:52
  sort
• 18:52
  of
• 18:52
  a
• 18:52
  hypnosis,
• 18:53
  and
• 18:53
  blend
• 18:53
  all
• 18:53
  these
• 18:54
  things,
• 18:54
  but
• 18:54
  not
• 18:54
  with
• 18:54
  any
• 18:54
  real
• 18:55
  agenda,
• 18:55
  but
• 18:55
  just
• 18:56
  to
• 18:56
  move
• 18:56
  them
• 18:56
  through
• 18:57
  whatever
• 18:58
  might
• 18:58
  be
• 18:58
  coming
• 18:59
  through
• 18:59
  me,
• 18:59
  as
• 18:59
  silly
• 19:00
  as
• 19:00
  that
• 19:00
  sounds.
• 19:01
  And
• 19:01
  I,
• 19:01
  I,
• 19:02
  I,
• 19:02
  I
• 19:02
  had
• 19:02
  a
• 19:03
  patient
• 19:03
  who
• 19:03
  came
• 19:03
  through
• 19:04
  later
• 19:04
  who
• 19:05
  had,
• 19:05
  did
• 19:06
  and
• 19:07
  I
• 19:07
  thought,
• 19:07
  gosh,
• 19:07
  you
• 19:08
  know,
• 19:08
  I
• 19:08
  should
• 19:08
  really
• 19:08
  learn
• 19:09
  how
• 19:09
  to
• 19:09
  do
• 19:09
  soul
• 19:10
  retrieval
• 19:10
  because
• 19:11
  of
• 19:11
  this
• 19:11
  patient.
• 19:12
  And
• 19:12
  so
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  got
• 19:12
  a
• 19:13
  book
• 19:13
  on
• 19:13
  something
• 19:13
  called
• 19:13
  soul
• 19:14
  retrieval,
• 19:14
  not
• 19:14
  knowing
• 19:14
  what
• 19:15
  it
• 19:15
  was.
• 19:15
  And
• 19:15
  when
• 19:15
  I,
• 19:15
  when
• 19:15
  I
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  book
• 19:16
  and
• 19:16
  read
• 19:16
  it,
• 19:16
  it
• 19:17
  was
• 19:17
  exactly
• 19:17
  what
• 19:17
  I
• 19:17
  had
• 19:17
  been
• 19:18
  doing
• 19:19
  and
• 19:19
  what
• 19:19
  I
• 19:20
  had
• 19:20
  already
• 19:20
  been
• 19:20
  doing.
• 19:20
  I
• 19:20
  didn't
• 19:20
  know
• 19:21
  what
• 19:21
  to
• 19:21
  call
• 19:21
  this
• 19:21
  thing
• 19:21
  that
• 19:21
  I
• 19:21
  was
• 19:22
  doing.
• 19:22
  And
• 19:22
  so,
• 19:22
  you
• 19:23
  know,
• 19:23
  that
• 19:24
  terminology
• 19:24
  isn't
• 19:25
  something
• 19:25
  that
• 19:25
  I'd
• 19:25
  necessarily
• 19:26
  throw
• 19:26
  out
• 19:26
  there.
• 19:26
  We
• 19:26
  could
• 19:27
  call
• 19:27
  it
• 19:27
  whatever
• 19:27
  we
• 19:27
  want,
• 19:28
  you
• 19:28
  know,
• 19:29
  but
• 19:30
  if
• 19:30
  you
• 19:30
  believe
• 19:30
  that
• 19:30
  Time
• 19:31
  bends
• 19:32
  that
• 19:32
  it's
• 19:33
  not
• 19:33
  linear.
• 19:33
  Right.
• 19:34
  Which
• 19:34
  it
• 19:34
  isn't.
• 19:35
  Right.
• 19:35
  That
• 19:36
  we
• 19:36
  can
• 19:36
  go
• 19:36
  back
• 19:36
  and
• 19:36
  we
• 19:37
  can
• 19:37
  find
• 19:37
  ourselves,
• 19:38
  you
• 19:39
  know,
• 19:39
  then,
• 19:40
  Then,
• 19:40
  then
• 19:41
  this,
• 19:41
  this
• 19:41
  hopefully
• 19:42
  makes
• 19:42
  some
• 19:42
  sense.
• 19:43
  And,
• 19:44
  and
• 19:44
  that
• 19:44
  is
• 19:45
  the
• 19:45
  spiritual
• 19:45
  aspect
• 19:45
  of
• 19:46
  what
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  do.
• 19:47
  Yeah.
• 19:47
  And
• 19:48
  that
• 19:48
  makes
• 19:48
  total
• 19:48
  sense.
• 19:48
  I
• 19:49
  mean,
• 19:49
  I.
• 19:50
  And
• 19:50
  like
• 19:50
  you
• 19:50
  said,
• 19:50
  there's
• 19:51
  so
• 19:51
  many
• 19:51
  modalities
• 19:52
  out
• 19:52
  there,
• 19:52
  but
• 19:52
  you
• 19:52
  hear
• 19:53
  a
• 19:53
  lot
• 19:53
  of
• 19:53
  them
• 19:53
  that
• 19:54
  are
• 19:55
  going
• 19:55
  back
• 19:55
  into
• 19:56
  the
• 19:56
  archives
• 19:57
  and
• 19:57
  going
• 19:58
  back
• 19:58
  into
• 19:58
  your
• 19:58
  different
• 19:59
  souls
• 19:59
  even,
• 19:59
  and
• 20:00
  all
• 20:00
  that
• 20:00
  stuff.
• 20:00
  You
• 20:00
  know,
• 20:01
  it's.
• 20:01
  It's
• 20:02
  fascinating.
• 20:02
  I
• 20:02
  say
• 20:02
  a
• 20:03
  lot
• 20:03
  of
• 20:03
  people,
• 20:04
  and
• 20:04
  you
• 20:04
  either.
• 20:04
  I
• 20:05
  truly
• 20:05
  believe.
• 20:05
  You
• 20:06
  either
• 20:06
  believe
• 20:06
  it
• 20:06
  or
• 20:06
  you
• 20:07
  don't,
• 20:07
  and
• 20:07
  it
• 20:07
  doesn't
• 20:08
  matter.
• 20:08
  You're
• 20:08
  not
• 20:08
  right
• 20:08
  or
• 20:09
  wrong
• 20:09
  either
• 20:09
  way.
• 20:10
  But
• 20:10
  if
• 20:11
  you
• 20:11
  want
• 20:11
  to
• 20:11
  try
• 20:11
  something
• 20:12
  new
• 20:12
  or
• 20:12
  explore
• 20:13
  something
• 20:13
  new,
• 20:14
  you
• 20:14
  kind
• 20:14
  of
• 20:14
  have
• 20:14
  to
• 20:15
  be
• 20:15
  open
• 20:15
  to
• 20:15
  the
• 20:15
  fact
• 20:16
  that
• 20:16
  it
• 20:16
  is
• 20:16
  a
• 20:16
  thing,
• 20:17
  or
• 20:17
  else
• 20:18
  energetically,
• 20:18
  you're
• 20:19
  just
• 20:19
  expelling
• 20:20
  it
• 20:20
  anyway.
• 20:20
  You
• 20:21
  know,
• 20:21
  you're.
• 20:21
  You're
• 20:21
  not
• 20:21
  bringing
• 20:22
  it
• 20:22
  in.
• 20:22
  That's
• 20:22
  my
• 20:22
  thinking.
• 20:23
  So
• 20:24
  people
• 20:24
  that
• 20:24
  are
• 20:24
  like,
• 20:25
  oh,
• 20:25
  you
• 20:26
  carry
• 20:26
  a
• 20:26
  crystal.
• 20:27
  I
• 20:27
  don't
• 20:27
  believe
• 20:27
  in
• 20:27
  that.
• 20:28
  I'm
• 20:28
  like,
• 20:28
  then
• 20:28
  don't
• 20:28
  go
• 20:29
  get
• 20:29
  yourself
• 20:29
  a
• 20:29
  crystal.
• 20:30
  Yeah,
• 20:30
  for
• 20:30
  sure.
• 20:30
  Absolutely.
• 20:31
  Yeah.
• 20:32
  You
• 20:32
  know,
• 20:32
  there's
• 20:32
  no
• 20:32
  right
• 20:33
  or
• 20:33
  wrong,
• 20:33
  you
• 20:34
  know,
• 20:34
  like,
• 20:34
  I
• 20:34
  love
• 20:35
  that
• 20:35
  you
• 20:35
  have
• 20:35
  that
• 20:35
  perspective.
• 20:36
  I
• 20:36
  think
• 20:36
  that's
• 20:36
  true.
• 20:37
  I
• 20:37
  think
• 20:37
  there's
• 20:37
  many,
• 20:37
  many,
• 20:37
  many,
• 20:38
  many,
• 20:38
  many
• 20:38
  shades
• 20:39
  of
• 20:39
  gray.
• 20:39
  And
• 20:39
  thank
• 20:40
  God
• 20:41
  for
• 20:41
  subjective
• 20:41
  perspective.
• 20:42
  I
• 20:42
  mean,
• 20:43
  even
• 20:43
  some
• 20:43
  of
• 20:43
  my
• 20:43
  daughter
• 20:44
  went
• 20:44
  to
• 20:44
  a
• 20:44
  naturopath
• 20:45
  doctor.
• 20:45
  Even
• 20:45
  some
• 20:45
  of
• 20:46
  the
• 20:46
  things
• 20:46
  they
• 20:46
  did
• 20:46
  on
• 20:46
  me,
• 20:47
  on
• 20:47
  her,
• 20:48
  which
• 20:48
  now
• 20:49
  I
• 20:49
  do
• 20:50
  on
• 20:50
  a
• 20:50
  regular
• 20:51
  basis
• 20:51
  for
• 20:51
  myself
• 20:52
  and
• 20:52
  my
• 20:52
  friends
• 20:52
  and
• 20:53
  whoever
• 20:54
  I
• 20:55
  would
• 20:55
  have
• 20:55
  thought
• 20:55
  was,
• 20:55
  ooh,
• 20:56
  like,
• 20:56
  because
• 20:56
  I
• 20:57
  didn't
• 20:57
  know,
• 20:57
  you
• 20:58
  know,
• 20:58
  muscle
• 20:58
  testing
• 20:59
  and
• 20:59
  just
• 20:59
  different
• 20:59
  things
• 21:00
  and,
• 21:00
  you
• 21:01
  know,
• 21:01
  you
• 21:01
  talk
• 21:01
  about
• 21:01
  frequencies.
• 21:02
  I
• 21:02
  do
• 21:02
  a
• 21:02
  lot
• 21:03
  with
• 21:03
  frequencies
• 21:04
  now.
• 21:04
  And,
• 21:04
  you
• 21:05
  know,
• 21:05
  people
• 21:05
  are
• 21:05
  like,
• 21:05
  well,
• 21:06
  where's
• 21:06
  the
• 21:06
  data?
• 21:06
  I'm
• 21:07
  like,
• 21:07
  well,
• 21:07
  I
• 21:07
  don't
• 21:08
  have
• 21:08
  exact
• 21:08
  quotes,
• 21:08
  but
• 21:09
  I
• 21:09
  will
• 21:09
  find
• 21:09
  you
• 21:10
  research
• 21:11
  that
• 21:11
  shows
• 21:12
  frequencies
• 21:13
  do
• 21:13
  certain
• 21:13
  things.
• 21:13
  You
• 21:14
  know,
• 21:14
  I
• 21:14
  mean,
• 21:15
  it's
• 21:15
  just,
• 21:16
  it's.
• 21:17
  There's
• 21:17
  so
• 21:17
  much
• 21:17
  and,
• 21:18
  and
• 21:18
  none
• 21:18
  of
• 21:18
  it's.
• 21:19
  I
• 21:19
  don't
• 21:19
  want
• 21:19
  to
• 21:19
  say
• 21:19
  none
• 21:20
  of
• 21:20
  it's
• 21:20
  new.
• 21:20
  I
• 21:20
  think
• 21:21
  that
• 21:21
  we
• 21:21
  humans
• 21:21
  endogenously
• 21:22
  have
• 21:22
  within
• 21:23
  our
• 21:23
  nervous
• 21:23
  systems
• 21:24
  the
• 21:24
  ability
• 21:25
  actually
• 21:26
  to
• 21:26
  heal
• 21:26
  ourselves.
• 21:27
  Now,
• 21:28
  I'm
• 21:28
  not
• 21:28
  saying
• 21:29
  snap
• 21:29
  your
• 21:29
  fingers
• 21:29
  and
• 21:30
  make
• 21:30
  it
• 21:30
  happen.
• 21:30
  It's
• 21:30
  that
• 21:31
  easy,
• 21:31
  but.
• 21:32
  But
• 21:32
  I,
• 21:32
  I
• 21:32
  don't
• 21:33
  think
• 21:33
  that.
• 21:33
  I
• 21:33
  don't
• 21:34
  think
• 21:34
  that.
• 21:35
  I
• 21:35
  don't
• 21:35
  think
• 21:36
  that
• 21:36
  these
• 21:36
  things
• 21:36
  would
• 21:36
  happen
• 21:36
  without
• 21:37
  the
• 21:37
  ability
• 21:37
  to
• 21:38
  somehow
• 21:38
  address
• 21:39
  them,
• 21:39
  you
• 21:39
  know,
• 21:40
  and
• 21:40
  so
• 21:40
  someday,
• 21:41
  maybe
• 21:41
  it's
• 21:41
  a
• 21:41
  thousand
• 21:42
  years
• 21:42
  down
• 21:42
  the
• 21:42
  road,
• 21:43
  right?
• 21:44
  We'll
• 21:44
  be
• 21:44
  able
• 21:44
  to
• 21:44
  do
• 21:44
  this
• 21:44
  to
• 21:45
  one
• 21:45
  another
• 21:45
  without
• 21:45
  any
• 21:46
  equipment.
• 21:47
  Right.
• 21:47
  You
• 21:47
  hear
• 21:47
  these
• 21:48
  stories
• 21:48
  of
• 21:48
  people
• 21:49
  that
• 21:49
  had
• 21:49
  stage
• 21:50
  four
• 21:50
  this,
• 21:50
  and
• 21:50
  they
• 21:51
  healed
• 21:51
  themselves
• 21:52
  and
• 21:52
  they
• 21:52
  can
• 21:52
  tell
• 21:53
  you
• 21:53
  what
• 21:53
  I
• 21:53
  did,
• 21:53
  and.
• 21:54
  And
• 21:55
  that's
• 21:55
  their
• 21:56
  experience.
• 21:56
  And
• 21:57
  by
• 21:58
  golly,
• 21:58
  let
• 21:58
  them
• 21:58
  live.
• 21:59
  It's
• 21:59
  a
• 21:59
  fun
• 21:59
  concept
• 22:00
  for
• 22:00
  me.
• 22:00
  And
• 22:00
  I
• 22:01
  love
• 22:01
  the.
• 22:02
  I
• 22:02
  don't
• 22:02
  know
• 22:02
  how
• 22:02
  you
• 22:02
  do
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  brain
• 22:03
  stimulation
• 22:04
  thing.
• 22:04
  I
• 22:04
  don't
• 22:04
  know
• 22:04
  if
• 22:05
  it's
• 22:05
  like
• 22:05
  electrodes
• 22:06
  or
• 22:06
  if
• 22:06
  it's
• 22:06
  frequency,
• 22:07
  if
• 22:07
  it's
• 22:07
  noise.
• 22:08
  I'm
• 22:08
  not
• 22:08
  sure
• 22:08
  how
• 22:08
  you
• 22:09
  do
• 22:09
  it,
• 22:09
  but
• 22:10
  it's
• 22:10
  interest.
• 22:11
  Very
• 22:11
  interesting
• 22:11
  to
• 22:12
  me.
• 22:12
  Yeah,
• 22:12
  it's
• 22:13
  a
• 22:13
  multimodal
• 22:14
  blend.
• 22:14
  And
• 22:14
  so
• 22:15
  frequencies
• 22:16
  for
• 22:16
  sure.
• 22:17
  Right.
• 22:17
  When
• 22:17
  I
• 22:17
  teach,
• 22:18
  I
• 22:18
  talk
• 22:18
  about
• 22:18
  hero
• 22:18
  ingredients.
• 22:19
  So
• 22:19
  we
• 22:19
  work
• 22:19
  with
• 22:20
  frequencies.
• 22:21
  We
• 22:21
  work
• 22:21
  with.
• 22:21
  I
• 22:21
  love
• 22:22
  that
• 22:22
  you
• 22:22
  said
• 22:22
  noise.
• 22:23
  Something
• 22:23
  called
• 22:23
  pink
• 22:24
  noise
• 22:24
  and
• 22:24
  brown
• 22:24
  noise
• 22:25
  stimulation,
• 22:25
  which
• 22:25
  is
• 22:25
  an
• 22:26
  audible.
• 22:26
  It's
• 22:26
  not
• 22:26
  audible,
• 22:28
  but
• 22:28
  we
• 22:28
  work
• 22:28
  with
• 22:28
  noise.
• 22:28
  We
• 22:29
  work
• 22:29
  with
• 22:29
  direct
• 22:29
  current
• 22:30
  stimulation,
• 22:30
  tdcs.
• 22:31
  We
• 22:31
  work
• 22:31
  with
• 22:32
  pulsed
• 22:32
  electromagnetic
• 22:33
  field
• 22:34
  stimulation
• 22:34
  and
• 22:35
  photobiomodulation.
• 22:36
  And
• 22:36
  so
• 22:37
  it's
• 22:37
  like
• 22:37
  a
• 22:37
  recipe.
• 22:38
  Right.
• 22:38
  So
• 22:38
  you
• 22:38
  come
• 22:38
  in,
• 22:39
  you
• 22:39
  have
• 22:39
  your
• 22:39
  own
• 22:39
  unique
• 22:40
  signature.
• 22:40
  You
• 22:40
  want
• 22:40
  to
• 22:41
  work
• 22:41
  on
• 22:41
  these
• 22:41
  things.
• 22:42
  And,
• 22:43
  you
• 22:43
  know,
• 22:43
  and
• 22:44
  your
• 22:44
  system,
• 22:44
  your
• 22:45
  unique
• 22:45
  system
• 22:45
  wants
• 22:46
  something
• 22:47
  particular
• 22:47
  just
• 22:47
  for
• 22:48
  it.
• 22:48
  And
• 22:49
  that's
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  nature
• 22:49
  of
• 22:50
  this
• 22:50
  work,
• 22:50
  right.
• 22:50
  Is
• 22:51
  it's
• 22:51
  really
• 22:51
  customized
• 22:52
  to
• 22:52
  the
• 22:53
  individual.
• 22:54
  Very
• 22:54
  interesting.
• 22:54
  And
• 22:54
  you
• 22:55
  practice
• 22:55
  virtually
• 22:56
  or
• 22:56
  in
• 22:57
  real
• 22:57
  life,
• 22:57
  or
• 22:58
  everything
• 22:58
  is
• 22:59
  in
• 22:59
  real
• 23:00
  life.
• 23:00
  Yeah,
• 23:00
  I
• 23:00
  mean,
• 23:01
  I.
• 23:01
  Together,
• 23:03
  yeah.
• 23:03
  People
• 23:03
  come
• 23:04
  and
• 23:04
  sit
• 23:04
  down
• 23:04
  in
• 23:04
  front
• 23:04
  of
• 23:05
  me,
• 23:05
  you
• 23:05
  know,
• 23:05
  and
• 23:06
  we
• 23:06
  have
• 23:06
  clinicians
• 23:07
  all
• 23:07
  over
• 23:07
  the
• 23:07
  planet
• 23:08
  that
• 23:08
  use
• 23:08
  our
• 23:09
  system,
• 23:09
  which
• 23:09
  is
• 23:09
  called
• 23:10
  neurofield,
• 23:10
  and
• 23:11
  we
• 23:11
  do
• 23:11
  trainings
• 23:11
  all
• 23:11
  over
• 23:11
  the
• 23:12
  planet
• 23:12
  for
• 23:12
  clinicians
• 23:13
  who
• 23:13
  are
• 23:13
  interested
• 23:14
  in,
• 23:15
  you
• 23:15
  know,
• 23:15
  computational
• 23:16
  neuroanalysis,
• 23:17
  which
• 23:17
  is
• 23:17
  looking
• 23:17
  at
• 23:18
  brains
• 23:18
  and
• 23:18
  how
• 23:19
  they
• 23:19
  behave
• 23:19
  and.
• 23:20
  And.
• 23:20
  And
• 23:20
  then
• 23:20
  figuring
• 23:20
  out
• 23:21
  what
• 23:21
  to
• 23:21
  do
• 23:21
  with
• 23:21
  them.
• 23:21
  So
• 23:21
  it's
• 23:22
  actually
• 23:22
  a
• 23:22
  really
• 23:22
  good.
• 23:24
  Any.
• 23:24
  Any
• 23:24
  mental
• 23:25
  healthcare
• 23:25
  practitioner
• 23:26
  who's
• 23:26
  interested
• 23:26
  in
• 23:27
  neuroscience.
• 23:27
  This
• 23:28
  is.
• 23:28
  This
• 23:28
  is
• 23:28
  sort
• 23:29
  of
• 23:29
  the
• 23:29
  bridge
• 23:29
  between
• 23:30
  neurology
• 23:30
  and
• 23:30
  psychology.
• 23:31
  Right.
• 23:32
  This
• 23:32
  is
• 23:32
  stuff.
• 23:33
  And
• 23:33
  I
• 23:33
  think
• 23:33
  that
• 23:34
  bridge
• 23:34
  is.
• 23:35
  It's
• 23:36
  important
• 23:36
  and
• 23:37
  so
• 23:37
  important
• 23:37
  that
• 23:38
  it
• 23:38
  keeps
• 23:39
  bridging.
• 23:40
  You
• 23:40
  know,
• 23:40
  there
• 23:40
  used
• 23:41
  to
• 23:41
  be.
• 23:41
  My
• 23:41
  mother
• 23:42
  was
• 23:42
  a
• 23:42
  child
• 23:42
  psychiatrist,
• 23:43
  but
• 23:43
  that
• 23:43
  was,
• 23:44
  what,
• 23:44
  30,
• 23:45
  30,
• 23:46
  40
• 23:47
  years
• 23:48
  ago
• 23:48
  or
• 23:48
  say.
• 23:49
  And
• 23:49
  it
• 23:49
  just
• 23:49
  seemed,
• 23:50
  you
• 23:50
  know,
• 23:50
  and
• 23:50
  it.
• 23:50
  It
• 23:51
  just
• 23:51
  seemed.
• 23:51
  It
• 23:51
  was
• 23:51
  all
• 23:52
  the
• 23:52
  mind,
• 23:52
  the
• 23:53
  mind,
• 23:53
  the
• 23:53
  mind.
• 23:53
  You
• 23:53
  didn't.
• 23:54
  There
• 23:54
  wasn't
• 23:54
  as
• 23:55
  much
• 23:55
  science
• 23:55
  behind
• 23:56
  it
• 23:56
  back
• 23:56
  then.
• 23:56
  I
• 23:56
  mean,
• 23:56
  at
• 23:57
  least
• 23:57
  from
• 23:57
  what
• 23:57
  I
• 23:58
  knew
• 23:58
  watching
• 23:59
  her
• 23:59
  and,
• 23:59
  you
• 23:59
  know,
• 24:00
  watching
• 24:00
  the
• 24:00
  whole
• 24:00
  process.
• 24:01
  But
• 24:02
  I
• 24:02
  love
• 24:02
  it.
• 24:02
  I
• 24:02
  think
• 24:03
  it's.
• 24:03
  I
• 24:03
  think
• 24:03
  it's
• 24:03
  so
• 24:04
  important.
• 24:04
  I
• 24:04
  mean,
• 24:04
  when
• 24:04
  they
• 24:05
  show
• 24:05
  you
• 24:05
  a
• 24:05
  brain
• 24:05
  scan
• 24:06
  of
• 24:06
  a
• 24:06
  child
• 24:06
  that
• 24:07
  certain
• 24:07
  part
• 24:08
  of
• 24:08
  their
• 24:08
  brain
• 24:08
  is
• 24:09
  shut
• 24:09
  off
• 24:10
  or
• 24:10
  smaller.
• 24:11
  That's
• 24:11
  science.
• 24:12
  That's.
• 24:13
  That's
• 24:13
  indisputable.
• 24:14
  You
• 24:14
  know,
• 24:14
  I
• 24:14
  mean,
• 24:15
  so
• 24:16
  it's.
• 24:16
  So,
• 24:16
  yeah,
• 24:17
  yeah,
• 24:18
  take
• 24:19
  that
• 24:19
  information
• 24:19
  and
• 24:20
  do
• 24:20
  something
• 24:20
  with
• 24:21
  it,
• 24:21
  you
• 24:21
  know,
• 24:22
  so.
• 24:23
  Yeah,
• 24:23
  I
• 24:24
  mean,
• 24:24
  I
• 24:24
  mean,
• 24:24
  there's.
• 24:25
  There's
• 24:25
  a
• 24:25
  lot
• 24:25
  of
• 24:25
  studies
• 24:26
  on
• 24:26
  that
• 24:26
  kind
• 24:26
  of
• 24:26
  thing.
• 24:27
  How
• 24:27
  the.
• 24:27
  There's
• 24:28
  a
• 24:28
  white
• 24:28
  matter
• 24:28
  collar
• 24:29
  that
• 24:29
  surrounds
• 24:29
  the
• 24:29
  corpus
• 24:30
  callosum
• 24:30
  and
• 24:31
  it's.
• 24:31
  And
• 24:32
  it's
• 24:32
  thinned.
• 24:33
  It's
• 24:33
  thinned.
• 24:34
  And
• 24:34
  individuals
• 24:35
  who
• 24:35
  have
• 24:36
  developmental
• 24:36
  trauma.
• 24:37
  And
• 24:37
  so
• 24:37
  what
• 24:37
  this.
• 24:37
  This
• 24:37
  region
• 24:38
  does,
• 24:38
  right,
• 24:39
  Anterior
• 24:40
  is
• 24:41
  it
• 24:41
  inhibits
• 24:41
  the.
• 24:42
  The
• 24:42
  firing
• 24:43
  amygdala,
• 24:43
  right?
• 24:43
  Which
• 24:44
  is
• 24:44
  a
• 24:44
  very
• 24:44
  popular
• 24:45
  part
• 24:45
  of
• 24:45
  the
• 24:45
  brain
• 24:46
  which
• 24:46
  is
• 24:46
  responsible
• 24:47
  for
• 24:47
  a
• 24:47
  great
• 24:47
  many
• 24:47
  things,
• 24:48
  but
• 24:48
  fundamentally
• 24:49
  fight
• 24:49
  orf
• 24:49
  flight.
• 24:50
  Right.
• 24:50
  And
• 24:50
  so
• 24:50
  when
• 24:51
  we
• 24:51
  have
• 24:51
  the.
• 24:51
  Basically
• 24:52
  the
• 24:52
  brake
• 24:53
  pedal
• 24:53
  for
• 24:54
  amygdala
• 24:55
  firing
• 24:56
  worn
• 24:56
  down
• 24:57
  the
• 24:57
  brake
• 24:57
  pad,
• 24:58
  then
• 24:59
  that
• 24:59
  individual
• 25:00
  is
• 25:00
  more
• 25:00
  prone,
• 25:01
  right.
• 25:01
  To
• 25:02
  having
• 25:02
  very
• 25:03
  large
• 25:03
  startle
• 25:03
  reactions
• 25:04
  and
• 25:04
  startle
• 25:05
  responses.
• 25:06
  Right.
• 25:06
  And
• 25:07
  the
• 25:07
  other
• 25:07
  piece,
• 25:07
  I
• 25:08
  mean,
• 25:08
  there's
• 25:08
  so
• 25:08
  many.
• 25:08
  But
• 25:08
  one
• 25:08
  other
• 25:09
  very
• 25:09
  interesting
• 25:10
  thing
• 25:10
  about
• 25:10
  the
• 25:11
  neurology
• 25:11
  of
• 25:11
  trauma
• 25:12
  and
• 25:12
  the
• 25:12
  neurobiology
• 25:13
  of
• 25:13
  trauma
• 25:14
  is
• 25:14
  that
• 25:15
  we
• 25:15
  seek
• 25:16
  out
• 25:16
  what
• 25:17
  is
• 25:17
  familiar,
• 25:17
  right?
• 25:18
  And
• 25:18
  what
• 25:18
  is
• 25:18
  familiar
• 25:18
  is
• 25:19
  it's
• 25:19
  called
• 25:19
  default
• 25:20
  mode
• 25:20
  in.
• 25:20
  In,
• 25:21
  you
• 25:21
  know,
• 25:21
  network
• 25:22
  theory.
• 25:22
  And
• 25:23
  so
• 25:24
  you
• 25:24
  have
• 25:24
  a
• 25:24
  default
• 25:25
  mode
• 25:25
  experience,
• 25:25
  and
• 25:26
  that
• 25:26
  is
• 25:26
  your
• 25:26
  experience
• 25:27
  of
• 25:27
  self,
• 25:27
  right?
• 25:28
  Just
• 25:28
  kind
• 25:28
  of
• 25:28
  like
• 25:28
  hanging
• 25:29
  out,
• 25:29
  doing
• 25:29
  your
• 25:29
  thing,
• 25:29
  whatever.
• 25:30
  So
• 25:31
  if
• 25:31
  you
• 25:31
  were
• 25:31
  raised
• 25:32
  in
• 25:32
  an
• 25:32
  environment
• 25:32
  that
• 25:33
  was
• 25:33
  quite
• 25:33
  chaotic
• 25:34
  and
• 25:35
  that.
• 25:35
  That's
• 25:35
  familiar.
• 25:36
  Fam.
• 25:36
  Like
• 25:37
  family
• 25:37
  default
• 25:38
  mode,
• 25:38
  right.
• 25:39
  Then
• 25:39
  that
• 25:39
  individual,
• 25:40
  especially
• 25:40
  if
• 25:41
  they
• 25:41
  haven't
• 25:41
  done
• 25:41
  any.
• 25:41
  Any
• 25:42
  work
• 25:42
  later
• 25:42
  in
• 25:42
  life,
• 25:43
  they
• 25:43
  will
• 25:43
  seek
• 25:44
  out
• 25:44
  experiences
• 25:45
  like
• 25:47
  prostitution
• 25:47
  or
• 25:48
  shoplifting
• 25:48
  or
• 25:48
  getting
• 25:49
  into
• 25:49
  fights
• 25:49
  or
• 25:49
  violent
• 25:50
  relationships.
• 25:51
  Because
• 25:52
  that
• 25:52
  is
• 25:52
  familiar.
• 25:53
  That
• 25:53
  is
• 25:53
  akin
• 25:54
  to
• 25:54
  their
• 25:54
  default
• 25:55
  mode,
• 25:56
  right.
• 25:56
  That
• 25:56
  was
• 25:56
  trained
• 25:57
  early
• 25:57
  on.
• 25:58
  And
• 25:58
  the
• 25:58
  opposite,
• 25:59
  I.
• 25:59
  E.
• 26:00
  You
• 26:00
  know,
• 26:01
  just
• 26:01
  calm,
• 26:02
  peaceful,
• 26:03
  relaxed,
• 26:04
  hanging.
• 26:05
  That
• 26:05
  might
• 26:05
  be
• 26:05
  more
• 26:06
  uncomfortable
• 26:06
  for
• 26:06
  them.
• 26:07
  It's
• 26:07
  not
• 26:08
  their
• 26:08
  natural
• 26:09
  state
• 26:09
  of
• 26:10
  resting.
• 26:11
  Oh,
• 26:11
  I
• 26:11
  remember
• 26:12
  the
• 26:12
  first
• 26:12
  time
• 26:12
  I
• 26:13
  started
• 26:13
  going
• 26:13
  through
• 26:13
  that
• 26:14
  and
• 26:14
  I.
• 26:14
  First
• 26:14
  time,
• 26:15
  like,
• 26:15
  I
• 26:15
  met
• 26:15
  a
• 26:15
  normal,
• 26:16
  healthy
• 26:16
  relationship
• 26:17
  type
• 26:17
  guy
• 26:17
  and
• 26:18
  I
• 26:18
  was
• 26:18
  like,
• 26:18
  oh,
• 26:18
  this
• 26:18
  does
• 26:19
  not.
• 26:21
  It
• 26:21
  was
• 26:21
  very
• 26:22
  uncomfortable
• 26:22
  being.
• 26:23
  When
• 26:23
  I
• 26:23
  was
• 26:23
  in
• 26:23
  my
• 26:24
  early
• 26:24
  20s,
• 26:24
  it
• 26:25
  was.
• 26:25
  I
• 26:26
  was
• 26:26
  definitely
• 26:26
  wired
• 26:27
  for
• 26:27
  that
• 26:27
  adrenaline
• 26:28
  rush.
• 26:28
  It's
• 26:28
  like
• 26:29
  if
• 26:29
  I
• 26:29
  didn't
• 26:29
  have
• 26:29
  the
• 26:29
  adrenaline
• 26:30
  running
• 26:30
  through
• 26:30
  my
• 26:31
  body,
• 26:31
  I
• 26:31
  was
• 26:31
  not
• 26:32
  happy.
• 26:33
  And
• 26:33
  I
• 26:34
  used
• 26:34
  to
• 26:34
  joke
• 26:34
  and
• 26:35
  say
• 26:35
  every
• 26:35
  time
• 26:35
  I
• 26:35
  had.
• 26:36
  That's
• 26:36
  why
• 26:36
  I
• 26:36
  worked
• 26:37
  so
• 26:37
  hard.
• 26:37
  I
• 26:37
  was
• 26:37
  a
• 26:38
  chronic
• 26:38
  worker
• 26:38
  when
• 26:38
  I
• 26:39
  was
• 26:39
  young.
• 26:39
  Every
• 26:39
  time
• 26:40
  I
• 26:40
  stopped
• 26:40
  working,
• 26:40
  I
• 26:41
  get
• 26:41
  sick.
• 26:42
  So
• 26:42
  every
• 26:43
  time
• 26:43
  I
• 26:43
  took
• 26:43
  three
• 26:43
  days
• 26:44
  off,
• 26:44
  yeah.
• 26:45
  Anytime
• 26:45
  I
• 26:45
  took
• 26:45
  a
• 26:46
  vacation,
• 26:46
  I
• 26:46
  was
• 26:46
  violently
• 26:47
  sick
• 26:47
  the
• 26:47
  entire
• 26:48
  vacation.
• 26:48
  So
• 26:48
  I
• 26:48
  just
• 26:49
  stopped
• 26:49
  Taking
• 26:49
  them.
• 26:49
  I
• 26:50
  never
• 26:50
  took
• 26:50
  more
• 26:50
  than
• 26:50
  two
• 26:51
  days
• 26:51
  off
• 26:51
  in
• 26:51
  a
• 26:51
  row
• 26:52
  because
• 26:52
  the
• 26:52
  third
• 26:53
  day
• 26:53
  I
• 26:53
  would
• 26:53
  be
• 26:53
  sick.
• 26:55
  And
• 26:56
  I
• 26:56
  didn't
• 26:56
  know
• 26:56
  what
• 26:56
  that
• 26:56
  was,
• 26:57
  but
• 26:57
  I
• 26:57
  assumed
• 26:58
  it
• 26:58
  was
• 26:58
  because
• 26:58
  my
• 26:58
  body
• 26:59
  was
• 26:59
  so
• 26:59
  used
• 26:59
  to
• 26:59
  being
• 27:00
  up,
• 27:00
  up,
• 27:00
  up,
• 27:00
  up,
• 27:00
  up,
• 27:01
  up,
• 27:01
  you
• 27:01
  know,
• 27:02
  working
• 27:02
  three
• 27:02
  jobs,
• 27:02
  going
• 27:03
  to
• 27:03
  school,
• 27:03
  stressing
• 27:04
  about
• 27:04
  this
• 27:04
  work,
• 27:05
  you
• 27:05
  know,
• 27:05
  afraid
• 27:06
  of
• 27:06
  this.
• 27:06
  That
• 27:07
  when
• 27:07
  I
• 27:07
  slowed
• 27:08
  down,
• 27:09
  my
• 27:09
  body
• 27:10
  was
• 27:10
  like,
• 27:10
  okay,
• 27:10
  I
• 27:10
  can
• 27:11
  finally
• 27:11
  do
• 27:11
  what
• 27:11
  it's
• 27:11
  meant
• 27:11
  to
• 27:12
  do.
• 27:12
  And
• 27:12
  it
• 27:12
  was.
• 27:14
  Doing
• 27:14
  whatever
• 27:14
  it
• 27:14
  was
• 27:15
  doing
• 27:17
  is
• 27:17
  interesting.
• 27:18
  Well,
• 27:18
  yeah.
• 27:19
  I
• 27:19
  mean,
• 27:19
  what
• 27:19
  a
• 27:19
  tremendous
• 27:20
  amount
• 27:20
  of
• 27:20
  resilience
• 27:21
  as
• 27:21
  well.
• 27:21
  Because
• 27:21
  if
• 27:22
  you're
• 27:22
  in
• 27:22
  that
• 27:22
  space
• 27:22
  all
• 27:23
  the
• 27:23
  time
• 27:23
  that
• 27:23
  go,
• 27:23
  go,
• 27:23
  go,
• 27:24
  go,
• 27:24
  go,
• 27:24
  go,
• 27:24
  go,
• 27:25
  you
• 27:25
  know,
• 27:25
  you're
• 27:26
  probably
• 27:26
  also
• 27:27
  cheating
• 27:27
  your
• 27:28
  immune
• 27:28
  system
• 27:28
  a
• 27:28
  little
• 27:29
  bit,
• 27:29
  you
• 27:29
  know,
• 27:30
  weakening
• 27:30
  it,
• 27:31
  chewing
• 27:31
  it
• 27:31
  away,
• 27:31
  wearing
• 27:32
  it
• 27:32
  down.
• 27:33
  Right.
• 27:34
  And
• 27:34
  so
• 27:35
  the
• 27:35
  resilience
• 27:35
  of
• 27:36
  warding
• 27:36
  off
• 27:36
  germs
• 27:37
  or,
• 27:37
  you
• 27:37
  know,
• 27:37
  illness
• 27:38
  in
• 27:38
  the.
• 27:38
  Letting
• 27:39
  down
• 27:39
  your,
• 27:39
  your
• 27:40
  system.
• 27:40
  Yeah.
• 27:41
  That
• 27:41
  potentially
• 27:42
  was
• 27:42
  able
• 27:42
  to
• 27:42
  get
• 27:42
  sick.
• 27:43
  That's
• 27:43
  interesting.
• 27:44
  Yeah,
• 27:44
  it
• 27:44
  was,
• 27:44
  it
• 27:45
  was
• 27:45
  funny.
• 27:45
  And
• 27:45
  I,
• 27:45
  it's.
• 27:46
  I'm
• 27:46
  not
• 27:46
  the
• 27:46
  first
• 27:46
  one
• 27:47
  that
• 27:47
  said
• 27:47
  that.
• 27:47
  A
• 27:47
  lot
• 27:48
  of
• 27:48
  my
• 27:48
  clients
• 27:48
  have
• 27:48
  said,
• 27:49
  oh,
• 27:49
  yeah,
• 27:49
  I
• 27:49
  remember.
• 27:50
  I,
• 27:50
  I
• 27:50
  do
• 27:50
  that.
• 27:52
  Yeah.
• 27:52
  So
• 27:53
  it's
• 27:53
  like,
• 27:53
  you
• 27:53
  know,
• 27:53
  you
• 27:53
  learn.
• 27:54
  But
• 27:54
  wow,
• 27:55
  this
• 27:55
  has
• 27:55
  been
• 27:55
  super
• 27:55
  fun.
• 27:56
  So,
• 27:56
  so
• 27:57
  people
• 27:57
  want
• 27:57
  to
• 27:57
  work
• 27:57
  with
• 27:57
  you.
• 27:58
  It's.
• 27:59
  You
• 27:59
  said
• 27:59
  your
• 28:00
  people
• 28:00
  are
• 28:00
  all
• 28:00
  over
• 28:00
  the
• 28:00
  world,
• 28:01
  but
• 28:01
  how
• 28:01
  do
• 28:01
  they
• 28:01
  work
• 28:02
  directly
• 28:02
  with
• 28:02
  you
• 28:03
  or
• 28:03
  what?
• 28:04
  Right,
• 28:04
  right,
• 28:04
  right.
• 28:05
  So.
• 28:06
  So,
• 28:06
  so
• 28:07
  we,
• 28:07
  and
• 28:07
  I
• 28:07
  say
• 28:08
  we
• 28:08
  because
• 28:08
  my
• 28:08
  husband
• 28:09
  is
• 28:09
  the
• 28:09
  other
• 28:09
  side
• 28:09
  of
• 28:09
  this
• 28:10
  equation
• 28:10
  and
• 28:10
  he's
• 28:11
  an
• 28:11
  awesome,
• 28:11
  cool
• 28:12
  guy.
• 28:12
  So
• 28:13
  we
• 28:13
  were
• 28:13
  in
• 28:13
  Santa
• 28:13
  Barbara,
• 28:14
  California.
• 28:14
  We
• 28:15
  have
• 28:15
  a
• 28:15
  clinic
• 28:15
  called
• 28:15
  Neurofield.
• 28:16
  Neurofield
• 28:17
  Neurotherapy.
• 28:18
  And
• 28:19
  people
• 28:19
  fly
• 28:20
  in,
• 28:20
  actually
• 28:20
  from
• 28:20
  all
• 28:21
  over.
• 28:21
  An
• 28:21
  intensive
• 28:22
  is
• 28:22
  usually
• 28:22
  about
• 28:22
  two
• 28:23
  weeks.
• 28:24
  And
• 28:24
  it's
• 28:24
  exciting
• 28:24
  because
• 28:25
  we
• 28:25
  get
• 28:25
  to
• 28:25
  quantify
• 28:25
  the
• 28:25
  changes.
• 28:26
  Right.
• 28:26
  In
• 28:26
  two
• 28:26
  weeks
• 28:27
  we
• 28:27
  get
• 28:27
  to
• 28:27
  see
• 28:27
  the
• 28:27
  subjective
• 28:28
  and
• 28:28
  emotional
• 28:29
  changes,
• 28:29
  behavioral
• 28:29
  changes,
• 28:30
  but
• 28:30
  then
• 28:30
  we
• 28:30
  get
• 28:30
  to
• 28:30
  quantify
• 28:31
  them
• 28:31
  over
• 28:32
  the
• 28:32
  course
• 28:32
  of
• 28:32
  time.
• 28:33
  So
• 28:33
  that's
• 28:33
  an
• 28:33
  option.
• 28:34
  And
• 28:34
  then
• 28:35
  for
• 28:35
  clinicians
• 28:36
  who
• 28:36
  listen
• 28:36
  to
• 28:36
  your
• 28:36
  show,
• 28:37
  mental
• 28:37
  health
• 28:38
  care
• 28:38
  practitioners,
• 28:38
  or
• 28:39
  the
• 28:39
  school
• 28:40
  is
• 28:40
  called
• 28:41
  the
• 28:41
  School
• 28:41
  of
• 28:41
  Neurotherapy
• 28:43
  and
• 28:43
  that's
• 28:43
  online.
• 28:44
  And
• 28:44
  some
• 28:45
  brick
• 28:45
  and
• 28:45
  mortar
• 28:45
  teachings
• 28:46
  as
• 28:46
  well.
• 28:46
  And
• 28:46
  so
• 28:47
  there's
• 28:47
  a
• 28:47
  whole
• 28:48
  bunch
• 28:48
  of
• 28:50
  curricula.
• 28:51
  I
• 28:51
  mean,
• 28:51
  lots
• 28:51
  of
• 28:52
  courses
• 28:52
  on
• 28:52
  the
• 28:52
  school.
• 28:53
  Okay.
• 28:53
  And
• 28:54
  then
• 28:54
  the
• 28:54
  best
• 28:54
  places
• 28:55
  just
• 28:55
  to
• 28:55
  go
• 28:55
  to
• 28:55
  neurofieldneurotherapy.com
• 28:57
  or
• 28:58
  neurofeel.com
• 28:59
  that's
• 28:59
  the
• 28:59
  hardware
• 28:59
  software
• 29:00
  that
• 29:00
  we
• 29:00
  create.
• 29:00
  It's
• 29:01
  called
• 29:01
  Neurofield.
• 29:02
  Right.
• 29:02
  Okay.
• 29:03
  And
• 29:03
  so
• 29:04
  any,
• 29:04
  any
• 29:05
  variation
• 29:06
  of
• 29:06
  Neurotherapy
• 29:07
  or
• 29:07
  Neurofeed
• 29:07
  will
• 29:07
  probably
• 29:08
  find
• 29:08
  your
• 29:09
  way
• 29:09
  to
• 29:09
  us.
• 29:10
  It's
• 29:10
  a
• 29:10
  really
• 29:10
  exciting
• 29:10
  field
• 29:12
  as
• 29:12
  up
• 29:12
  and
• 29:12
  coming.
• 29:13
  And,
• 29:13
  you
• 29:13
  know,
• 29:13
  I
• 29:14
  think
• 29:14
  it's
• 29:14
  going
• 29:14
  to
• 29:14
  change.
• 29:15
  I
• 29:15
  think
• 29:15
  it's
• 29:16
  going
• 29:16
  to
• 29:16
  change
• 29:16
  the
• 29:16
  way
• 29:16
  we
• 29:16
  work
• 29:17
  with
• 29:17
  mental
• 29:17
  health
• 29:17
  for
• 29:18
  real,
• 29:18
  you
• 29:18
  know,
• 29:19
  in
• 29:19
  the
• 29:19
  future.
• 29:20
  I
• 29:20
  100%
• 29:21
  agree.
• 29:21
  And
• 29:21
  I
• 29:21
  think
• 29:22
  it's
• 29:22
  love.
• 29:22
  I
• 29:23
  think
• 29:23
  it's
• 29:23
  amazing.
• 29:23
  And
• 29:23
  I
• 29:24
  love
• 29:24
  what
• 29:24
  you
• 29:24
  do.
• 29:25
  So
• 29:25
  kudos
• 29:26
  to
• 29:26
  you
• 29:26
  people.
• 29:27
  Got
• 29:27
  a
• 29:27
  very
• 29:27
  detailed
• 29:28
  and
• 29:28
  scientific
• 29:29
  explanation
• 29:30
  for
• 29:30
  a
• 29:30
  lot
• 29:30
  of
• 29:30
  the
• 29:30
  stuff
• 29:30
  that
• 29:31
  we
• 29:31
  talk.
• 29:31
  Like
• 29:31
  I
• 29:31
  said,
• 29:32
  we
• 29:32
  talk
• 29:32
  about
• 29:32
  it
• 29:32
  in
• 29:32
  layman's
• 29:33
  terms,
• 29:33
  but
• 29:33
  we
• 29:34
  haven't
• 29:34
  really
• 29:34
  gotten
• 29:35
  deep
• 29:35
  into
• 29:35
  the
• 29:36
  science
• 29:36
  behind
• 29:36
  it.
• 29:37
  I
• 29:37
  mean,
• 29:37
  a
• 29:37
  little
• 29:37
  bit
• 29:38
  here
• 29:38
  and
• 29:38
  there,
• 29:38
  but
• 29:38
  not
• 29:38
  like
• 29:39
  you
• 29:39
  did.
• 29:39
  Before
• 29:39
  you
• 29:40
  go,
• 29:40
  if
• 29:40
  you
• 29:41
  could
• 29:41
  give
• 29:41
  the
• 29:42
  listeners
• 29:42
  one
• 29:43
  piece
• 29:43
  of
• 29:43
  advice
• 29:44
  or
• 29:44
  words
• 29:44
  of
• 29:44
  wisdom
• 29:44
  or
• 29:45
  just
• 29:45
  a
• 29:45
  final
• 29:46
  thought,
• 29:46
  what
• 29:47
  would
• 29:47
  it
• 29:47
  be
• 29:47
  today?
• 29:49
  Well,
• 29:50
  I
• 29:50
  mean,
• 29:50
  as
• 29:50
  you're
• 29:50
  saying
• 29:51
  that,
• 29:51
  you
• 29:51
  know,
• 29:52
  this
• 29:52
  may
• 29:53
  sound.
• 29:53
  I
• 29:53
  don't
• 29:54
  know
• 29:54
  how
• 29:54
  this
• 29:54
  might
• 29:54
  sound,
• 29:54
  but
• 29:54
  it
• 29:55
  really
• 29:55
  is
• 29:55
  to.
• 29:56
  To
• 29:56
  allow
• 29:57
  what
• 29:57
  is
• 29:58
  right,
• 29:58
  to
• 29:58
  not
• 29:59
  fight
• 30:00
  what
• 30:00
  is
• 30:00
  happening
• 30:01
  or
• 30:01
  what
• 30:01
  is
• 30:01
  reality,
• 30:02
  and
• 30:03
  instead
• 30:03
  to
• 30:03
  accept
• 30:05
  what
• 30:05
  is
• 30:07
  so
• 30:07
  that
• 30:08
  we
• 30:09
  can
• 30:09
  then
• 30:09
  begin
• 30:10
  to
• 30:10
  move
• 30:10
  towards
• 30:10
  what
• 30:11
  we
• 30:11
  want.
• 30:11
  And
• 30:12
  I
• 30:12
  think
• 30:12
  a
• 30:12
  lot
• 30:12
  of
• 30:12
  times
• 30:12
  it
• 30:12
  starts
• 30:13
  out
• 30:13
  with
• 30:13
  accepting
• 30:14
  who
• 30:14
  we
• 30:14
  are,
• 30:15
  who
• 30:15
  they
• 30:15
  are,
• 30:15
  so
• 30:15
  on
• 30:16
  and
• 30:16
  so
• 30:16
  forth.
• 30:16
  Yeah.
• 30:17
  Okay.
• 30:18
  Well,
• 30:18
  sounds
• 30:19
  great.
• 30:19
  So
• 30:19
  thank
• 30:19
  you
• 30:20
  again
• 30:20
  so
• 30:20
  much
• 30:20
  for
• 30:21
  coming
• 30:21
  on.
• 30:21
  I
• 30:21
  appreciate
• 30:21
  it.
• 30:23
  And
• 30:23
  for
• 30:23
  everybody
• 30:24
  else
• 30:24
  out
• 30:24
  there,
• 30:24
  you
• 30:24
  heard
• 30:24
  it.
• 30:25
  Don't
• 30:25
  fight
• 30:26
  it.
• 30:26
  Just
• 30:26
  accept
• 30:27
  it
• 30:27
  for
• 30:27
  what
• 30:27
  it
• 30:28
  is
• 30:28
  and
• 30:28
  know
• 30:28
  that
• 30:29
  you
• 30:29
  are
• 30:29
  so
• 30:29
  worth
• 30:30
  anything
• 30:31
  and
• 30:31
  every
• 30:31
  step
• 30:32
  you
• 30:32
  make
• 30:32
  towards
• 30:32
  having
• 30:33
  a
• 30:33
  better
• 30:34
  reality.
• 30:35
  So
• 30:35
  go
• 30:35
  get
• 30:35
  it.
• 30:36
  So
• 30:37
  thank
• 30:37
  you.
• 30:37
  Have
• 30:37
  a
• 30:37
  blessed
• 30:38
  day.
• 30:38
  Okay,
• 30:39
  thanks.
• 30:39
  Bye.