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Mac & Bone Show - Jason Cabinda Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: ACC fans, you hear him on the CW on a
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  Speaker 1: game that we like to call the Wes Bryant Game
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  Speaker 1: of the Week because Wes is our co-worker. But our
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  Speaker 1: next guest is there as well with Tom Brenneman and Wes.
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  Speaker 1: He is Jason Cabinda, fresh off a trip to Raleigh
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  Speaker 1: for a big win for the Deacs. And he joins
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  Speaker 1: us on the Mac and Bone Show. Hey, Jason, how
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  Speaker 1: you doing, man? What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: How are we doing, brother? Appreciate you guys having me
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  Speaker 2: on the show, man.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, man? Appreciate you being here, man. We got
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the Wake and State game. My Lord,
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  Speaker 1: Wake took over that game in the second half, outscored
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  Speaker 1: them 28-0 in the second half. What was the difference?
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  Speaker 1: Because when Bailey was cooking 16-16 early, I thought it
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  Speaker 1: might be a special day for State.
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  Speaker 3: What was Wake able to do to turn the tide?
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  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, I thought the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Wake was down 14-7, and then Gio Lopez
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  Speaker 2: just took over that football game. Not only Gio Lopez,
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  Speaker 2: but that Wake Forest defensive line. I mean, Langston Hardy,
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  Speaker 2: Zach Lovicin, I mean, those guys, the twist game, the
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  Speaker 2: winning the one-on-ones. In the pass rush, I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: were just peppering Bailey the whole rest of the game.
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  Speaker 2: Once it became six minutes in the second quarter, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they turned it on.
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  Speaker 4: Jason, Wake Forest, we know, is not an easy place
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  Speaker 4: to win, but Jake Dickert so far has made it
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  Speaker 4: look like an easy place to win. From being around
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  Speaker 4: the program and what you see from Jake Dickert so far,
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  Speaker 4: what do you think makes him such a good match
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  Speaker 4: for that Wake program right now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think, you know, the way he's able to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, consistently fight complacency, you know, they don't get
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  Speaker 2: satisfied over there. I think, you know, winning has become
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  Speaker 2: an expectation over there for him. But, I mean, they work.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these guys work. And I think just the
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  Speaker 2: mindset that he brings to these guys and the way
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  Speaker 2: he coaches, the way he cares about his players, I
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  Speaker 2: think it is going to be very difficult for, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of organizations not to be, you know, knocking
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  Speaker 2: on that front door looking for Jake Dickert because, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this guy is the real deal.
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  Speaker 3: No doubt.
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  Speaker 1: And on the other side, you have Dave Doran. He
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  Speaker 1: state fans are they're back after him again. And they've
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  Speaker 1: had this horrible trend this season of playing well in
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  Speaker 1: the first half. And then in the second half, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of falling apart, giving up leads, even in
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  Speaker 1: the two in the games they won against App State
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  Speaker 1: in Louisville. What's your feelings about Dave Doran? And do
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  Speaker 1: you blame state fans for feeling like after all these years,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's time for a change?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's hard to say because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you look at games like, especially the Vanderbilt game, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with the debacle at the end of the game and
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  Speaker 2: they lose that one. And then, you know, coming into
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  Speaker 2: the season, you have a ton of hype about C.J.
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  Speaker 2: Bailey and rightfully so, you know, he's a big quarterback
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  Speaker 2: with a big arm. He's mobile. You know, you have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things that, you know, you want to
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  Speaker 2: like about this team, but it just seems like when
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  Speaker 2: crunch time comes on or when the pressure is on
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  Speaker 2: in these games, you It seems as if they fold
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  Speaker 2: and they don't keep their heads very well. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when I see those kinds of trends on a football team,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's hard not to look at the coaching. Now,
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  Speaker 2: will I say, you know, people are going to be
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  Speaker 2: asking for his head at the end of the season
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that? You know, I don't know. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I will say it is a talented football team. And,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you look at, you know, they went and
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  Speaker 2: had that heartbreak loss to Vandy. Then the very next
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  Speaker 2: week they go and beat Louisville. Then, you know, they're
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  Speaker 2: playing against Wake. They're playing really well. They're up 14-7.
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  Speaker 2: And then, you know, they just kind of break down
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  Speaker 2: and then can't get it going offensively anymore. So I
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  Speaker 2: just think they're a very hot and cold team, and
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  Speaker 2: they need to find a consistent level of play.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking to Jason Cabinda of the CW here on
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  Speaker 4: the Mac and Bone radio show. While you guys were
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  Speaker 4: doing that Wake State game the other day, UNC was
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  Speaker 4: getting a big road win at Pittsburgh. Jason, there are
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  Speaker 4: certain wins we look at as– you know, big wins
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  Speaker 4: for the season, and then there are big wins for
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  Speaker 4: the program. How huge was that for UNC to get
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  Speaker 4: that win at Pittsburgh for the long haul?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that is huge. I mean, I cannot, I
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  Speaker 2: cannot overstate it enough. Not only is that win huge
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  Speaker 2: against an undefeated, well, what was an undefeated Pittsburgh team,
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  Speaker 2: But just all the drama surrounding the program and all
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  Speaker 2: the things that they got going on, you know, for
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  Speaker 2: them to be able to silence the noise, for Bill
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  Speaker 2: Belichick to be able to keep these guys focused and not,
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  Speaker 2: you know, lose any morale or be distracted and to
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  Speaker 2: still go out there and execute at a high level,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that had to have been the most I
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  Speaker 2: had seen Bill Belichick kind of laughing and cracking a
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  Speaker 2: smile when he did that pregame interview, and that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of when I knew, okay, Bill must know something because
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  Speaker 2: he's normally not this happy and giddy and talking right
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  Speaker 2: before a game. So that's when I knew he must
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  Speaker 2: have had something cooking up for that Pittsburgh game, and
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  Speaker 2: they went out there and they showed out.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man, he was even chatty during the in-game interview
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  Speaker 1: in the first half. I don't know how that happened either. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he must have felt good. And we'll see what they
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  Speaker 1: do moving forward. They got Duke this week. Duke's coming
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  Speaker 1: off a loss to Georgia Tech. Do you think, and
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  Speaker 1: I guess this question is another kind of Wake Forest question,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe your answer is someone else.
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  Speaker 3: I guess I'll interject.
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  Speaker 1: I'm now starting to think Wake is the second best
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  Speaker 1: team in the ACC behind Miami.
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  Speaker 3: Do you agree, or would you point to someone else?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I got them right up there with SMU.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think SMU is still a good football team.
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  Speaker 2: I really like their defense. I think they've regressed a
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  Speaker 2: little bit offensively just from a standpoint of turnovers and penalties.
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  Speaker 2: And I think you can clean that stuff up. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: it starts with Kevin Jennings. You know, even a year ago,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he was a quarterback who threw the most
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  Speaker 2: interceptions in the league. They're a damn good passing offense.
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  Speaker 2: Lashley does a great job over there calling the offense.
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  Speaker 2: It would be right up there between Wake Forest and
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  Speaker 2: SMU to me the way I see it. Obviously, Pitt
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  Speaker 2: lost a quarterback, and that was a big loss for them. Um,
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  Speaker 2: but I think they're kind of neck and neck right
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  Speaker 2: now fighting for that number two spot. And then obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Duke, I know they lost to Georgia tech
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  Speaker 2: as well, but going into, you know, that game, I
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  Speaker 2: thought they were up there as well. Um, obviously I
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  Speaker 2: think that only played one conference game, uh, going into
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  Speaker 2: that Georgia tech game. So we'll see how this thing
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  Speaker 2: continues to develop. But I mean, I think it's waking
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  Speaker 2: SMU right up there, neck and neck.
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  Speaker 4: I was exploring the world of Jason Cabinda on Twitter,
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  Speaker 4: at Jason Cabinda. It's also got the link to your
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  Speaker 4: YouTube page as well for film breakdowns. You also do
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  Speaker 4: NFL work as well, NFL Network, Good Morning Football. When
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  Speaker 4: I was scrolling down to one of your videos, Jason,
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  Speaker 4: lo and behold, I see you're talking about Bryce Young
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  Speaker 4: in comparisons to Patrick Mahomes. What have you seen from
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  Speaker 4: Bryce Young so far this year, and what would that
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  Speaker 4: comparison be in your mind?
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  Speaker 3: To my hopes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, the, the, the, The original discussion was
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  Speaker 2: really like, hey, you know, do you throw a rookie
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  Speaker 2: quarterback directly into the fire or do you let him,
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  Speaker 2: like a Patrick Mahomes, sit behind a veteran and allow
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  Speaker 2: him to develop until he's ready? You know, which would
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  Speaker 2: you prefer? And we were talking about Fernando Mendoza as well,
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  Speaker 2: who's in the same situation sitting behind Kirk Cousins. But obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Bryce was thrown into the fire. You know, he gets benched.
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  Speaker 2: Andy Dalton comes in, doesn't perform as well. Bryce or no,
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  Speaker 2: he gets hurt. And then Bryce is able to come
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  Speaker 2: back in. And I mean, to see the resurgence of
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Young and to start to see what we saw
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  Speaker 2: at Alabama, that Steph Curry release, the ability to have
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  Speaker 2: such great pocket presence, get out of the pocket, throw
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  Speaker 2: it on the run. I just think he's playing with
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  Speaker 2: a high level of confidence right now. And I think...
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  Speaker 2: The entire Carolina fan base is really rallying behind them
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  Speaker 2: right now, as they should. I mean, if you look
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  Speaker 2: at that win against the Detroit Lions, I know that's
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  Speaker 2: not a great defense, but if you look at that
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  Speaker 2: win against Detroit Lions and the way he was methodical
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  Speaker 2: in those drives to come back and win that game,
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  Speaker 2: I think that speaks a lot to this kid's character,
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  Speaker 2: to this kid's resilience, and really just his talent. And
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  Speaker 2: I'll also say this. It's not easy in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: when you've lost your confidence to bounce back from that.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that really, really... speaks to this kid's
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  Speaker 2: character and his ability to just keep his head down
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  Speaker 2: and to keep working and to keep going. And that's
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  Speaker 2: a trait that you really need in the NFL, especially
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  Speaker 2: at the quarterback position. The ability to be even-keeled at
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  Speaker 2: all times and to stay in the middle of the
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  Speaker 2: ebb and flows of the emotional ups and downs of
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  Speaker 2: the league. So I give this kid a lot of credit, man.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the Carolina Panthers... Right now, I have
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  Speaker 2: a lot to be excited about.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely. I got goosebumps right there. I love it, man.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. Jason, I do have a question, though.
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  Speaker 1: We were joking when we brought you on that we
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  Speaker 1: call the game you do each week the Wes Bryant
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  Speaker 1: Game of the Week because we work with Wes here
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  Speaker 1: at WFNZ in Charlotte.
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  Speaker 3: But I've noticed something.
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  Speaker 1: Does Wes pay Tom Brenneman to be his hype man?
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  Speaker 3: Because Bone and I know this.
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  Speaker 1: He is always, always hyping up that big man at
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  Speaker 1: left tackle for the demon Deacons.
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  Speaker 3: He really hypes up West. Is there a deal there, Jason?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, there's no deal, man. That's just, Hey, that's just
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  Speaker 2: the crew of the chemistry, brother. I mean, Wes does
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  Speaker 2: a great job. He does a great job for us, man.
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  Speaker 2: And doing his research, having his storylines ready for the game.
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  Speaker 2: And he does a great job getting to know the
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  Speaker 2: players and coaches throughout the week to have, you know,
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  Speaker 2: some awesome tidbits for the show, man. So Wes, Wes
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  Speaker 2: is freaking awesome, man. I'm really enjoying, you know, working
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  Speaker 2: with him and working with Tom. It's been a blast
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  Speaker 2: so far.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good crew, man. Keep up the good work.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all got Virginia SMU coming up, which is a big
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  Speaker 1: one coming up this week.
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  Speaker 3: All right, man, be good. And thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you guys. We appreciate you.