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Jonathan Watson · Not Another Football Podcast

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Not Another Football Podcast with myself,
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  Speaker 1: Simon Domley and Jackie McNamara, and we're delighted to have
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  Speaker 1: our next guest, start off screen, start of stage, start
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  Speaker 1: off comedy, Jonathan Watson.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me boys A yeah, looking good, looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to us.
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  Speaker 1: I was looking at your CV last night, different things
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  Speaker 1: on it. What is the most recognized us when people
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  Speaker 1: come up to you, what you most know?
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  Speaker 2: The funny thing is depending on what you do at
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  Speaker 2: the time. You know, there was a well number of
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  Speaker 2: years ago it was city lights, a thing that used
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  Speaker 2: to do. That's forty years ago. Yeah, so you listened
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  Speaker 2: phases of that, and of course from lying excuse I suppose,
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  Speaker 2: but most recently because I'm involved with two doors down,
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  Speaker 2: that's the thing that they sort of that's into Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was just as I said, we were
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  Speaker 1: looking at it last night. Obviously from our point of view,
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  Speaker 1: a certain vintage only excuses when it comes to mind.
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  Speaker 1: I remember forty years ago it was edible, but it
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  Speaker 1: was like the kind of I was thinking about it.
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  Speaker 1: It was a staple diet of hog many on it.
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  Speaker 1: Before everybody went out. You would sit and watch all
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  Speaker 1: the shows I see who was going to did through,
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  Speaker 1: who was going to get the past trip this year,
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  Speaker 1: whose time it was, and then you would be geting out.
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  Speaker 1: So that was always marking the memories of that. Yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 1: I think that was only good.
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  Speaker 3: But about how many we were playing because we were
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  Speaker 3: we will always be playing Rangers in the s the
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  Speaker 3: next day, so we would be focusing into that and
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  Speaker 3: then you know, go to sleep after the bells senior
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  Speaker 3: year and go to sleep. That was a build up
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  Speaker 3: for us, was too. And see who you were going
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  Speaker 3: to do to get slaughter.
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  Speaker 2: It was class. We did it for so many years.
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  Speaker 2: But I get great memories of working in that program.
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  Speaker 2: It was it was. It was brilliant and we were
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  Speaker 2: you know, some of the stuff is pretty near the bone,
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  Speaker 2: but we got away with I think mostly because people
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  Speaker 2: knew were fans of the game. Yeah. Philip Duffer who
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  Speaker 2: produces it and writes to the majority of it. Philip
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  Speaker 2: a big Celtic fan. I was a Rangeous fan, and
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  Speaker 2: so there was a good balance. Tony's roper was that
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  Speaker 2: a big Celtic fan. But the laughs we used to
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  Speaker 2: have great for.
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  Speaker 1: You get any of the boys digging up for it
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  Speaker 1: was on anybody that took it the wrong way.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there was there was one instance when it was
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  Speaker 2: a wee bit touch and go. I thought, well, when
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  Speaker 2: Tony was doing it, he did an impersonation of Gordon McQueen,
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  Speaker 2: so ithing no longer with us. But it was a
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  Speaker 2: bit a bit harsh and Gordon so we had a
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  Speaker 2: bit of feedback that was he too happy. The only
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  Speaker 2: time that that I got a sort of kind of
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  Speaker 2: negative feedback was years ago. Years ago. I I came
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  Speaker 2: home before I was my got home. Remember the we
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  Speaker 2: answer machines with the WE button used to be with
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  Speaker 2: your a metting. So I came home, this thing's beating away,
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  Speaker 2: put it on and it's Alex Ferguson. He was John
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  Speaker 2: maybe calling you. I got your number off water one
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  Speaker 2: of who do a favor for me, and it was
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  Speaker 2: he was involved with Harmony Row Boys Club and he
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  Speaker 2: had organized a big fundraiser of Victoria's Nightclub, which I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure you'll remember. And let's say about that the better.
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  Speaker 2: So it's up Victoria's Nightclub and he wanted me to
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  Speaker 2: do a wee bit long excuse and Philip very kindly
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  Speaker 2: wrote this script for me about twenty twenty five minutes long,
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  Speaker 2: and in it there was a guy about David Hay,
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  Speaker 2: who was made as a Celtic at the time. And
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  Speaker 2: I remember saying to Andy Cameron was sitting next to
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  Speaker 2: me and I said, I said, and you see that
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  Speaker 2: that joke there. Do you think that's okay? He went, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I said, that's funny. He said, do that. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: it's I do that. That's funny. That's funny, right, And
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  Speaker 2: you know other either my new players are there, or
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  Speaker 2: just sell it players or just players. And the guy
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  Speaker 2: was Davy Hay was invited in the Chairman's room the
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  Speaker 2: park Head, the cham's office at park Head, and the
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  Speaker 2: CHAM said take a seat Davy No, No, on the
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  Speaker 2: floor in the chair right. And dB was in the
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  Speaker 2: audience and he was raging because there was a joke
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  Speaker 2: about money in it, and seemingly he he'd lost a
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  Speaker 2: bit of money in some venture which had been in
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  Speaker 2: the papers and he was not happy and big that
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  Speaker 2: the last well you're seeing the sad because I mentioned Jelly,
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  Speaker 2: I'm partly with Tony Higgins and I remember saying it
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  Speaker 2: twenty years ago, who's the hardest player you ever went?
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  Speaker 2: Without missing? The beat went away? My cell assassin. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: ended up in Victoria's. There was a way getting down
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  Speaker 2: into the main bit from the club. Roy ak And and
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  Speaker 2: Bully Kirk would let that out, make one real, take
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  Speaker 2: you down because he was so and the Big Roy's
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  Speaker 2: advice was Tony fuck him. So I went down. And
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  Speaker 2: so the next week, the next Sunday, it was the
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  Speaker 2: I think it was the Sports Writers dinner and Davy
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  Speaker 2: was there looking at maclate with white tux seedle and
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  Speaker 2: I saw him and Philip Differ and I were guests
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  Speaker 2: the BBC, and I said to Philip, I said, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to go and apologize them. Phillips said, don't you
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  Speaker 2: bother said you sit down, don't move right. But I
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  Speaker 2: went up and I said, day, I said, look, I'm
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  Speaker 2: really sorry if you if you were an offended last week.
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  Speaker 2: That's the last thing I do want to do. And
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  Speaker 2: he was like, he was brilliant, he said, Jonathan, he said,
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  Speaker 2: thanks so much for for apolgenizes. He said, you don't
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  Speaker 2: it's fine, he said. He said, I'm just glad I
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  Speaker 2: was there and I didn't hear it second hand. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, okay, So he was absolutely fine of it.
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  Speaker 2: That was the closest of our cave with them, the
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  Speaker 2: sort of taking it badly.
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  Speaker 1: I think I was again, I was thinking about it
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  Speaker 1: last night, obviously been coming on. I think I made
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  Speaker 1: an appearance at one point at the front of the Titanic.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was me, obviously, when I'm playing at
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  Speaker 1: Celtic as the Caprile. I think he's had made the
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  Speaker 1: front of the Titanic taking.
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  Speaker 2: You. Remember, Was it me doing you?
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember, but it was it was.
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  Speaker 2: I've got it in my head and it was that's
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  Speaker 2: what that rings a bell that the thing is. Honestly, Simon,
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  Speaker 2: there's so many sketches and people come up and they
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  Speaker 2: quote your stuff. I can't remember saying that.
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  Speaker 1: I remember obviously because it was myself, and I get
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  Speaker 1: the puss up took me for it. But I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking about it because obviously at that point with the
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  Speaker 1: blonde hair and DiCaprio. Fast forward twenty years later, but
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  Speaker 1: Dunde United, and I've come in one morning to the
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  Speaker 1: staff office, the professional staff office, and they've got a
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  Speaker 1: picture up of you know, the the actor Peter Drinklige.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a Game of Thrones.
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  Speaker 1: So I've cut about this kind of stripey Tammy in
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  Speaker 1: the training They've found Peter Dinklin absolutely double. So that
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  Speaker 1: was up at the wall with my desk when I
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  Speaker 1: walked in. So I went from DiCaprio, a fine actor.
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  Speaker 2: Two good actors?
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  Speaker 1: Drinkley, did you ever do it? Did you manage to
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  Speaker 1: get add that?
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  Speaker 3: My favorite has always got to be a Maca. I'd
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  Speaker 3: actually seen that before I actually met him. I met
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  Speaker 3: him the first time the PFA do and he he
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  Speaker 3: was in the toilet and said hello me and on
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  Speaker 3: I'm just kind of looking up.
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  Speaker 2: Spoke to him before or just seen him.
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  Speaker 3: And then your character and I think it was incredible.
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  Speaker 2: They won the garage with the birds. That's my favorite
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  Speaker 2: pump to pump Too. And you know what actually I did,
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you Thomas Thies, but I did. I did
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  Speaker 2: Frank's podcast a while back and he said to me,
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  Speaker 2: he said, he said, you know what he said. I
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  Speaker 2: was at a do one night and the father of
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  Speaker 2: one of the girls it's two lovely girls, it's extras
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  Speaker 2: in it. And the father of one that came up
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  Speaker 2: with went you know that sketch, the pump too sketch,
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  Speaker 2: and Frank was the goes He said that was my daughter,
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  Speaker 2: and Frank's going, oh right, okay, it went no, that
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  Speaker 2: was my he was speaking to it's a Frank had
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  Speaker 2: done the sketch right and he was raising one. But
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  Speaker 2: they always remember when we when we started doing him.
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  Speaker 2: The one of the reasons we started doing there was
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  Speaker 2: a wee guy at work in the approps the partment
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  Speaker 2: of the BBC, and he was a mad Celtic fan,
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  Speaker 2: Andy Hunton, great week guy, and he said to me
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  Speaker 2: and Philip one Monday morning that he'd been in Bird's
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  Speaker 2: Bar in the East end of Glasgow about eleven o'clock
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  Speaker 2: on the Sunday morning. And because Frank's always denied saying
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  Speaker 2: where's the box, He's always denied it. So we were
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  Speaker 2: told me about that about who it came about, and
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  Speaker 2: I said, Andy Hunton came up to us on the
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  Speaker 2: Monday morning the BBC and said to me and fully
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  Speaker 2: see another, guess what i'm yesterday? He said, I was
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  Speaker 2: in Beer's Bar, just sitting on the back reading my
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  Speaker 2: paper and then he's drink and McAvennie comes into the
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  Speaker 2: bar and he looked about it and he went where's
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  Speaker 2: the bos to the barn person and they went I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, Frank, so I told this story and he went,
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  Speaker 2: I know what that was, and Stephen I seemingly he
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: and his brother bought the franchise of a restaurant chain,
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: which was it was something like School Down remember that.
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  Speaker 2: I know the girls were done up in me Jim
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  Speaker 2: Slips and all that, doing the seven. So that Sunday morning
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  Speaker 2: there were additioning girls to work in their restaurant, and
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  Speaker 2: Frank thought it was in Beard's Bar, and he walked
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  Speaker 2: into Beard's Bark and he went and they were across
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  Speaker 2: the other, a pub across the road.
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  Speaker 1: So that was that was a line.
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  Speaker 2: That was the line. I Frank said that that's that's
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  Speaker 2: when we used to do the live shows. You kept
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: that to the n you kind of top that that
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  Speaker 2: was the best one to do. And we used to
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  Speaker 2: always have His entrance music would be Cashmere by Led Zeppelin,
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: the Puff Daddy version, and I used to used to
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  Speaker 2: be great fun. Yeah, some player as well, he was,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't it was?
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  Speaker 1: It was on his podcasts recently as well. So obviously
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  Speaker 1: take you back. So you went through was it drama
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  Speaker 1: school and stuff? Was was it acting that he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do? It was the comedy party down. Did it
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  Speaker 1: all in fold here?
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  Speaker 2: Well? It was say, and he go back to I
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  Speaker 2: was about ten years old actually, because my dad came
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  Speaker 2: in one day. We we lived in St. Georgia's cross through,
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  Speaker 2: very horrowd and came on one day and somebody that
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  Speaker 2: work must have mentioned this them. He said, look, there's
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  Speaker 2: a junior course at the Roskirtish academ and Music and drama.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to give it a go? And I'd
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  Speaker 2: be about ten at the time, and and I said yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and this is this is years before they did drama
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: and then that drama school and after It's about a
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  Speaker 2: bud usual emmy, I gave a quack. I was an
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  Speaker 2: only child, and I think, you know, my mum and
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: dad were always going to the fact, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: spend a lot of time in the company of kids,
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: because if you're an only children, you do spend a
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  Speaker 2: lot of time in the company of adults, you know,
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  Speaker 2: So I think it was a thing to try and
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  Speaker 2: make sure that wasn't the case. So I went along
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  Speaker 2: to it and I loved it. I really enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: And at that time, if the BBC were casting anything,
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: or any production company were casting anything, they were coming
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  Speaker 2: to Saturday Morning something the back and observe and if
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  Speaker 2: they thought you might be suitable, they'd actually read for
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  Speaker 2: the part. So very quickly I wasn't there all that long.
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  Speaker 2: I started getting TV offers and I did a lot
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: of stuff when I was a kid between the age
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  Speaker 2: of about eleven twelve till my voice broke and then
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: I can bite it a little bit more so my
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: teenage years. I did a lot of things like Sutherland's
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  Speaker 2: law daughter, Philly's casebook, Wednesday Play what with Alan Parker
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  Speaker 2: the film maker, and a commercial, big Linden commercial, stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that. But funnily enough, I had no intention of
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  Speaker 2: pursuing that as a career. Yeah, and then the left school,
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  Speaker 2: don't really knowing what was going to do, and i'd
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  Speaker 2: worked up with my dad had started doing it as
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: a commercial artist graphic artist that going into advertising, and
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  Speaker 2: I worked up in his office for a while. In
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  Speaker 2: one of his pals who was in charge one of
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  Speaker 2: the department, said look, we'll train it to work in advertising.
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  Speaker 2: So I ended up doing a course prepping me for
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: that and the knowledge that I had a job at
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  Speaker 2: the end of it, and then halfway through the BBC
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  Speaker 2: phoned up and said, we want to do you. We
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: went off of your partner, this play and the course
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  Speaker 2: that I was doing the College of Commerce. They wouldn't
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: give me the time off needed, about two weeks off
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  Speaker 2: and my dad said to me, he said, want to
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  Speaker 2: do I went, I'd like to do the play. He
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  Speaker 2: went to the play. So I dogged it for two Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: being at that point i'd be about twenty nineteen twenty,
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  Speaker 2: but I'd igges do the play. So I dogged it
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  Speaker 2: for two weeks. When I finished it, I thought, no,
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  Speaker 2: this is what I want to do, and I went
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  Speaker 2: in the next day. College comments was quite near George Square,
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  Speaker 2: as was the Drama Clause. I went and got in
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  Speaker 2: the last editions and audition for that, got in and
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  Speaker 2: did three years there, and then I got my equity
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  Speaker 2: card from the Citizens Theater and Football connection there. Owen
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  Speaker 2: Coyles mom Rosemary call she used to work and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: i'd I'd agree. That was a great start for me.
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  Speaker 1: That was serious parts. And then yeah, where did so
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  Speaker 1: where did the comedy come?
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  Speaker 2: So I was doing it, I was I'd be working
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  Speaker 2: away for a bout Let me see about three years
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  Speaker 2: working pretty steadily doing theater work and then in the
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  Speaker 2: summer do a play for Today or something like that,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of a drama. And then I did a
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  Speaker 2: I think for what was the Scottish Theater Company, It
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  Speaker 2: was like the National Theater Scotland Today. I did a
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  Speaker 2: play with them, and one of the guys on that
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: was working with a comedy unit at the BBC. It
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: was Royan Bayin. He was doing Kick Up the Eighties laughing.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Nearly paid my license fee and a new program that
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: would start to called Naked Radio. And he mentioned me
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: to the bosses there, Colin Gilbert and Philip Differ, and
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: I went up to see them and I got offered
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: a part and a pilot that they're doing called city Lights.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: And also they asked me to be part of the
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: team for Naked Radio. So that was Gregor Fisher, Tony Roper,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Elaine c. Smith, Yeah, me Andy Gray Well and that's
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: and then when that happened, I worked there more or
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: less constantly for about ten eleven years.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this episode is sponsored by Rosie Mcguilds and
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  Speaker 1: Cable Roig. We're going to be there at Celtic Supporters
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Festival from June the fourth to the seventh myself, Jackie,
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  Speaker 1: who else.
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  Speaker 3: Peter Grant, Joe Miller, Alan Thompson and Tommy Johnson. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the link is in a description.
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  Speaker 2: Back to the episode said, yeah, so that was a
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  Speaker 2: great that's a good start.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing. Yeah, so obviously we touched on at the beginning.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: They're a bit your Rangers supporting us sitting here us
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  Speaker 1: two excelps obviously, Which are the early memories of that?
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  Speaker 2: Then? Which first Rangers?
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  Speaker 1: Rangers?
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  Speaker 2: First time I saw Rangers? My dad, my dad wasn't
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: particularly teen football, even although his father who was for
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: lark Hall. So I'll give you an idea, but they
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: one they bought they the Mixed Days a little bit
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: before lark Hall. My dad knew the Mixed Days and
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: in fact my dad was at school with you. Remember
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: these guys, remember the guy that used to be the
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: kit man at Celtic Jim Steele. Well, my dad, my
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: dad was at school. I'm private school, so my dad
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: was that bothered before me and my palace were the
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Rangers fan. So the first game he took me to
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: was Rangers against Slavia Sophia, the second leg of the
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  Speaker 2: semi family of the copp Anders copt In sixty seven,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: and so the year that the Celtic were playing out
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: of my Land Rangers, I think they drew nothing each
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: in Bulgaria and then they won one nothing. Willie Henderson
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: got aheader and but my dad took me along. So
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: we get the the subway face and Georges crossed Coland
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Road and then when it was over Cockland Road.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was like mob.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was absolutely mob. And my dad said to me,
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  Speaker 2: we then walked down and says that was just as bad,
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  Speaker 2: and he said, do you fancy me but I walk
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  Speaker 2: Then I went, okay, that'd only be but ten or
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: something like that. And the thing I remember most about
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: it was we ended up walking walking home to Saint
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  Speaker 2: Judge's Cross via the ferry down at Anderson and then
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: crossing the river and it was like pitch black with
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: this wee very well light so on, but we ended
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  Speaker 2: up walking home and I was wipe The next day
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  Speaker 2: at school it was like but and that was that
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  Speaker 2: was the first game I went to. And and then
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: when I was at school, we used to go fairly
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: regularly into the North Enclosure and yeah, I've got I've
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  Speaker 2: got great memories and I've been fortunate enough to be
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: something to be at some great games, and through excuse
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  Speaker 2: I got to know some of the players as well,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: and I'm still finding a couple of them today.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he was there for four years at that time. Sorry,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: my dad was there for four years at that team
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: about the mid to late Really, I just talked about
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Billy Henderson that he's got a team foes in the house.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: It's Alec Ferguson's in.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: The squad, Roger Jo and greg Or, these guys, Roger
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Hind Roger Hyde played in the same brass band as
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: my cousin Bobby. I stressed back brass. I well I've
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: got I've still got I've still kept up my ways
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: forever chocolate, I've got all my programs I've got. And
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: then there was a guy when I was in primary five,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: there was a guy, mister Agnew. He was a big
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Rangers man. And it's at school on Monday morning, we'd
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: say he got a prayer the Lord's player, and I'd
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: oh my eyes up in the program for the the
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: previous games there, so it's the one where all the
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: team selection was in the front. So I've kept all
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: these and yeah, well they will be I've got I've
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: got the selt It into my Lane program because I
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: collect the programs that sell it into my line. And
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I've got the Rangers by munich When from sixty seven
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: and the celt into my Lane when is in mint condition,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and that's worth I write for you.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about players there, then, So who's your
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: who's your favorites over the years. You've obviously met a
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: few a few of your friends. Who's who's the top
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: men for you?
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: My favorite Rangers play is it's a toss up between
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I'm paliwe and Giant and I think very great player.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I love David Cooper because light, loud rop Davy Cooper
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: could lift you at your seat and I always thought
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: that was something special. So I would think I probably
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: settling and the Moody Blue. Yeah, but I've been forced
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: to see so many great players, you know, over the years,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: and yeah, but I think that the for the Rangers ones.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I think these two, yeah, pretty special. You obviously played
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: against the then the.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Road team, ye Cooper and all the US at Clyde
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Bank Clybank. Yeah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a Dunfermlin before I moved to Celtic.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: But he was still yeah, and I he was left
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: wing and I was right back, and he was still
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: difficult to get the ball off.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: To start as well, didn't Tom tom Cown You know,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I'm partied with Tom Rekings. He played his best football
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: when he was at Motherwell because there was no restrictions
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: on him. They basically said just Day would want one,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: and that's what Tam recks. He thinks he played it
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: his best football there, and I've heard Graham Sooness say
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: that was one of his biggest regrets letting him go.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: But he was he was needed. He wanted to play
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: all the time, so I couldn't guarantee him that, but
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: he was a great player. Told about football, you know
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: favorite footballers. I was fortunate when I went. Just when
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I left Drama College in seventy nine, one of my
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: mates for school he did civil engineering, so he was
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: working in Lancaster and for a number of few weekends
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: we would either drive down and get the train down,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: meet him and we go into Liverpool because it run
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: about that time Doug Leash was looking for his three
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: hundred three goal and Liverpool had already got it at Celtic.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And so I was fortunate enough to see that Liverpool
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: team with Sooness and Hanson and it was and nursing
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: like it and they were just the Babby rolled out
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: of Hanson. Hanson would give it soon Ess and be pining.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: And there was about five corners about the first five
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: minutes some team there. Oh well there were winning European
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: cups at that point, you know. So he'd seen Doug
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Lash and Sooness. Yeah, I thought they were fantastic.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: You know what about your team today which happened? Do
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: you think they're going to win the league this year?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I think I think
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: it's a really difficult one to call, and you read
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: up all the things what people are saying. I saw
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: it before I came in this morning. I saw that
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Chris Sutton had sort of said he thought it was
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: between Rangers and Hearts, and I really don't think you
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: can say that because all the teams in that top
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Sex now they're all capable of beating each other, so
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: it could go anywhere. And the thing about I know
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Rangers did well, it'd come back yesterday. I think I
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: think the Rangers defenses it's really leaky, it's really bad,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: and he carry just relying and scoring four goals to
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: overcome he cand of be giving teams two goal starts
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And I think it could go
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: either way. And you're a part of me because I
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: was met my kindness and a few rangers. I think
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: it would be really good for the game if a
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: team out with the whole fun won it, you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: And and I think if he did, that would be
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: a tremendous.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Really really, everybody's tipped them to kind of fall away.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: They've not. They've led as long as I can remember this.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Ye.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even the game at the weekend when we go
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: behind to a team that mother all decent. Yeah, I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: still find the way. It's it's hard to predict this year. Yeah,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: it's I covered the Celtic game at the weekend and
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: they were poor Celtic, poor start.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: We were doing our podcast. Yes then I hadn't seen
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: because I was I was doing in London. But Philip
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: was saying he watched the game and he said they
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: said they were poor seams. And Chick, who's non fan,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: he said, he said he watched it and he thinks,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: you know, the semi final, it could go either way.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: So and that's that's not like.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Someding, like the struggle to find goals.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Even to dominate possession, you know, and.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Was actually have something one had the possession, which is unusual.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: The guy Kered MacLeish. I actually with him at four cut.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I like him.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: I think you can see right away when somebody goes
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: in and changes how they play, because obviously we Robinson
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: them got a style will going direct which beat Celtic
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: in the final. You know, they left come on and
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: they put one down the side and they got the
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: goals from it. Whereas he's want a Celtic part to
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: play to the shackles off and to be honest, that's
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: actually what he wants.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was telling me that he was at
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I call it the Method, the one with some playing
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: and big Alec McLeish was there. Was it was some
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: my Aberdeen and big Alec had come up and he
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: was there with son John and it was his son
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: join me saying that there's they are distant relations him
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and Craig McLeish, I like cousins three times removed or something,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: but they are related. But he's doing a good job.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I like him. I think I think it's a good way,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: a good philosophy to.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Play the young ones and you get some if they're
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: going to express themselves, you can see a difference right away.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: That's what they've got to do. They've got to find
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: a way. I don't know if you changed the legislation
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: and whatever, but they've got to have a system. Now.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Surely we're young, young Scotch players, big givens. You've got
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: to give them some kind of encouragement to to come through,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: you know, otherwise it reflects in the national team. Yeah,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the struggle.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the World Cup. What's your thoughts
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: for the World Cup?
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I delighted to be back obviously, but well.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Do you know, it's some mixed feelings. Actually, I've no
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: wish to go of it, no wish to visit the
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: States just now the way that things are going politically,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: and you know the conflicts are taking place. You know
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: the thing about it as well, we were there in
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: ninety four, even tho though Scotland didn't qualify, Philip managed
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: to get money. It gets to go and from there
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: and I remember it clearly. Maybe did a clue what
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: was happening. We were in New York for a week.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: What are you doing. We're doing I thing about the
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: World Cup. That's that's that and so and also you
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: look at it now the number of teams that are
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure my age, but remember it was
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: sixteen t yes, four groups of four. Obviously I'm not
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: saying it's wrong to bolding that, but I think forty
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: eight now it's just mental. So I hope they do well.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: They've got to get a result in the first one. Yeah,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: that's the key, isn't it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Definitely we're old enough to remember right off, all these
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: teams as well. Yeah, Peru and Costa Rica is over
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the years, so I was. I was seen they drew Iceland,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: so Morocco, well, I was.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I was at the Costa Rica again in general. Yeah,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I remember that and oh god it was.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: They brote them off, but the nict typical. I was
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: all the time.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I remember watching Peru. I was actually did a thing
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: for Martvin Doris went through the World Cups and I
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: started sixty six because I'm holding you guys, but I
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: remember sixty six. That's when I was first. I was
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: nine and it was just and I saw in the
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: warm up to that, the build up to that because
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Scotland didn't qualify. They to beat Italy in the Italy
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: and I remember I was in Primary three at the
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: time and it was only Primary five and upwards were
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: there to watch it. But they remember ron Yates. Joe
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Steen was a temporary manager and they played ron Yates,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: who was the senate half of Liverpool. They had to
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: play him up front. It was a disaster and they
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: get pumped. But I remember one of the warm up
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: games Brazil played Scotland and that was my first Scotland
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: International and Pelly was playing. My dad reminded me that
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I used to say who when I was watching the game,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I was going, who's that guy kicking Pelley? Who's that
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: man kicking Pelly? And it was Billy Bremer. He put
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: his lumps into the whole game. Yeah, but that was
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: one each. Stevie Chalmers scored after the first minute and
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the equalized just before halftime.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Scotland was on then went down to Wembland beat England
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the following year.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Following Yeah, I've got the program. Yeah sixty seven.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Did you go to that?
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: No? No, And I was too young for that. Sorry, No,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: that was three two, So that was in sixty seven.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: The scorers were you.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Know, juggling the ball back to that. No, that was
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: that was a different one.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Now, hold on, there was one two years previously with
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the one to nothing. I think backs they got both goals.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: It might have been juggling and he did juggling sixty
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: seven because Dennis Law told me that he was raging
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: with him because he'd been part of the team that
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: get beat nine to three a number of years before
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: when Frank Hafey was in ing goal right, So he
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: wanted to get a good score, get a good score.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: And no, the six sixty seven was three too.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Wasn't there to do the show boating. It was what
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: He wanted to He wanted to eye press and get
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: more goals. But that was Jim mcaalay thing at the
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: first the last one and Bobby Lennox he's scored in
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: that game because I was let me say that was
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: that was the best year, that sixty something. It was
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the year to get married, the year he won the
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: European Cup, and the year they became world champions.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: So going back to we can I put the ball away?
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: But music then, so was that an influence in your
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: coming through drama? You're acting be a big music guy.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I used to go to the Apollo a
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: lot at that time. It was really affordable, you know.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I remember my first concert was Roxy Music and the
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: support was Leos and it was in the Apollo in Virginia.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Virginia Playing was their big first thing, and I remember
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I had it and joined Peel one when they I
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: went in the next day. The album was the next
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: day played Virginia Playing, and I bought the first Rocks
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: and Music album. And of course Virginia Playing isn't the
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: aun it So I'm in the bust back there. I
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: went to see them and that was two pounds fifty. Yeah.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Me and my way went and see that. So I
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: saw loads of bands in the Apollo, Who, the Stones, Wishbone,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I s Deep, Purple Queen, loads of bands. And no,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed my music. I don't know if it didn't,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: you know, any influence on me. I was doing drama.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: He didn't do any singing. No, I'm a terrible singer.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I was trying to before it.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Simon had many years ago and he was in panto
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: with my wee brother Donnie, that's right, and one in Glasgow.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: One in Edinburgh.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: That's right, yeah, yeah, And I was trying to remember
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: if you were singing, and.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I did sing and that Elaine got me to sing,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: but I would never class myself.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: As still did you go? Yeah, I used to go
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: to Albus to go to them all and well my
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: dad was there. But it was one year I think
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: it was in Edinburgh and Donnie he came out.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: It was three mice, that's right, I remember you mentioned.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I do remember.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: They'd see them run out the blue leotard zone tights
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: and he had the big white mouse heads in the door,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: ran out to I don't know if.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: It's cinder ll or whatever I meant it was, what
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: was what's the time? Freddy?
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: And the mounts head just spinning the boot. I went,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's fucking Freddy. My mum was like stop
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: at you two, Me me and my older brother Stephen.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I mean telling me his fucking the two looking looking
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: at me pack it and after it and he came
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: walking after the show and I admit your selling and
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Lane c Smith for that as well.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I went, all right, Freddy and he's like, you know
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: it was me.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I was because you've got the smallest packet before were
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: still still call him Freddy.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Is that this day? I remember that panto. It was
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: directed by some old English guy ob Be did now.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: But it was the longest planto I think the first
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: first night it was about three hours long. Oh, and
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: epic was like one piece. But I remember my thing
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: about that planto was I was big past Bandy great
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: passed away a few years ago. He was one of
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: the dames in it, right, and I was having I'm
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: usually very professional, but my mum was all at the time,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: and I was, I was all over the place, and
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: there was one Martney. I said to Andy, I said,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: do you know what he went on? I said, see this, Martney,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I went yeah. I said, I'm going to do it
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: like al Pacino sent scent of a woman. What do
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: you mean? I said, I'm going to do it. It's
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: a I'm blind. He went, please don't, please don't, and
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I did, and obviously remember was a the mate and
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: it picked up. I've just said the whole stop it, Johnny,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: please stop it, stop it. Yeah. That was oh good,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: great laughs and two doors down.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that. I think the one we you
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: have that you're playing the.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Drunk, well, that's my favorite episode. That's mine and all
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I think. Have you seen it? Now?
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: You need to watch It is absolutely the best drunk
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I've seen.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much. But see I stopped drinking about seventeen
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: years ago as well. People say that to myself. Well,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I did a lot of practice prior to that. Well
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: that's called fish Friday. I remember that. And it's Kathy
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: goes away to a health farm and leaves me for
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: a bit a week and they go for best Birthday.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: And I've been in the pub for about three days
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and it was it was great, funny to do. It
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: was brilliant. But i'd know, do tudors. It's been great.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: We did a Christmas special. You probably know one of
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the waters died and everything was put on hold. But
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: we did a Christmas special and we're about we start
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: in September. Actually we're doing ten dates in the Hydro
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: had the guy that that Simon wrote with Gregor Sharp,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: he is putting together a show for so we started.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: So yeah, look for your two women and that you
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: know your wife and your girlfriend and.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: The girlfriend's bump Jackie. I liked her or not, she's
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: no more. Okay. It's just one of these things, you know,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: doing step. She stepped aside for her in here for
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: for a number of reasons, and then she wanted to
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: come back. And we've got such good chemistry. Can you
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: say plebs as well? She was involved in that she's doing,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: she was doing, she's great and and we've got a
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: really good working relationships. So I loved Michavonne and she's
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: doing the high life just now, a big thing that's doing,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and she's great. Love working her, but I love working
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: big big Kathy, great fun. Never know what you're going
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: to get. One of the first scenes we did back,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: she ended up punching me, telling me and You're like,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: what's going on? But she's she's great, a good show
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: good show man.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: We had that. I just remembering there. Obviously spoke to
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: a friend that was I was telling them, you're coming
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: on and he sent a picture last night athletical partic.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so obviously using the.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Party connection and Boby the barman.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Gavin's in Gavin Mitchell's team team. I've got it on
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: my phone actually, So there's Gordon Kennedy who was absolutely
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: he was he was the lead. Gavin, isn't it big? Eating?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: My call? That was in satellites so he's in it, yes,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: and there's there's a few others.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: That was that part because he said, yeah, I think
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to watch it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Well, Electrical partic it was one of these things, you know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: hindsight's a great thing. It was. It was the first
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: thing that Ian Patson wrote after Rap scen Is but
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: stopped the first time he wrote electical Party and they
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: asked me to be in it. And it was a
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: little and loving a side football team pub team and
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: they see having a living in it. It was too many,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: they said, see if they made a five a side
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: team it had been I think it would work better,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: you know, but with great fun doing it. But unfortunately
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: they put it out when Urine eighty six was on
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: and so with Urinate six one, the last thing you
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: wanted to do is watch all so but you know,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the previous should have been the pilot that had gone
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: really well and there was a lot of hope for it,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: but it didn't quite work out. But these thinks, you know, yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: but I've got it was I always remember it was
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: yellow with the sight. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you listen,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: give you an idea. Who bad? They all? Well, I
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: was the best football I was like it was, I
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: tell you used to Gordon Smith, he the football in
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: the in the pilot, and then John Hewett faberteen he
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: he did the series, but I was by far the best.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: The White Pearley.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Did you play Did you play any No?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I played for for some and I really
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: enjoyed it, But I didn't play. Phillips he's he was
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: an accomplished player. Philip Duffers he still plays in goal
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: actually and he's you know, he's over retirement age. But no,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't play. I played with Dokla boys. Used to
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: get me a loan for that and I used to
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: love it. Actually was playing with I said Danny mcgreen.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I was in front of Danny mcgreen. Yeah. He used
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: to shout at me constantly. Imagine run about, don't run
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: about you. I'm getting joined blackly slip once gotten away
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: of a gold bound free kick he took and he's
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: never let me forget blocked it. So that it's Jerry Collins,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Tony Higgins, Ali Hunt and goal. I still see something
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: we usually meet up about when someone.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I played in a game up at Saint Rock's last
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: year for obviously Jerry passing away they did a game
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: against Saint Rox for yeah, yeah, there was a few played.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Scott Brown played that day as well, so he obviously
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: throughout the years of still my something.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean Jerry was great. I mean one
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: of the last teams I turned out from. They were
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: playing at Lock when I right and this guy halfed me,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: I mean just half me. I mean, never felt pain
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: like it. And they subbed them right away, right, Jerry Collins,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Bowen over the dugout, put him back on, put
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: him back on. I should we put them back on?
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: The guy's more, but they they were Jimmy and Jimmy
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: and Jerry were great. Well, he was a smashing boat.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: So the movies.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Ay, So what we're doing is we're getting a recommendation
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: off our guest for our next guests, which we can't
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: tell you. So had a band called Gallas on last.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Week and.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Picked a film which was Lockstop into Smoking Barrels.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I've never seen that.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: This is one of the Okay, so that's recommended Costello
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: music from the Fetellies.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Oh that's brilliant.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which are a good recommendation. And then he
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: went for like a new coming Dorty faces.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I've listened to it, said, I don't have you you'll
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: know like it? Have you listened to it?
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: It's a fucking mental song in the can Away home.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: So you've got a film, a song, and a band
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: to recommend.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, good, But I've given us a lot of thought,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and I've actually thrown in a TV series as well.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Go for it, I thought, So, which which one you
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: want first? Whatever one you want film, I'm gonna I'm
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: gonna give you a film from the eighties. And one
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: of the reasons for doing this, I think it's a
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: great sort of golden spell or that you know, Sunday's eighties.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: And it was instant, you know, I went in Saurday,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I went to the pictures with my son and we
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: went to see Casino Fantastic for and it was nearly
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: all young kids in the cinema to see us. And
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: you know, I just brought it back. What a wonderful
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: form is. It's not that one I'm going to recommend them.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I'm going to recommend one called Something Wild. You may
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: have seen this. It was directed by a guy called
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Demi, who went on to direct Silence of the Lambs,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: and it's a kind of a dark comedy and it
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: stars Jeff Daniels Melanie Griffith, and it was the breakout
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: role for Rarely Otter. And it's about this investment banker
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: who goes we went after Rails and meets up with
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: this woman Melanie Griffiths, who is bonkers, right, and they
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: go in this kind of road trip and end up
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: she invites them along to her high school reunion dance
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: and there at the high school reunion dance is our
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: first love and somebody that she married when she was
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: very young, rarely Otta, who is mental mental. And it's
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: a fantastic film and don't give two months away but obviously,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: but it's fantastic and the soundtrack for it is brilliant
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: as well. So that's that's my phone. Recommend something wild Dank.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: It's may have been ninteen eighty six, so that's what.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, album and a song, right, So.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I've got loads of favorite artists, say, but my favorite
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: is the Rolling Stones. I've seen them uns of times, right,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: absolutely love them, And I'm going to recommend one of
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: their compilation albums and it's called forty Licks. It's double CD,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: and it's fantastic and my favorite track of all time
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: is Gimme Shelter.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: A good song.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so, and yeah it's used. I mean I
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: think it. Scarse is used that a couple of times
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: for films and it's just it's just wonderful. And Elaine, see,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: she gave me a a document I see a DVD
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: documentary about the making of Gimme Shelter. Because the background
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: singer that's in it, they got her up about three
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning to drive into the studio to
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: record this as well. And so there's a fantastic story
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: about the actual recording of that song, which was done
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: in la as well. But yeah, that's what I'll go for.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: That recommendation and watch the film you're going to.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Say, right. So, I was working with this young director
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: called James Price Springburn, fantastically talented guy, and he said,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: he said, if you watched a thing called Mister in Between,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: and he heard about this, nobody has, right, but if
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: you've got Disney Plus, I think you get it in
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Disney Plus. So it's an Australian program and it's the
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: episodes are half an hour low and it's again it's
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: dark comedy and it's about a guy called Ray Shusmith,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: and he's just an ordinary guy. You know, his marriage
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: has broke up, he's got a week kid, he's about
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: you know, a primary school age. His brother's got a
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: terminal illness, and he's got a bad relationship with his dad.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: So he's got a lot of things going on. But
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: at night time he's basically a hit man, right, and
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: it's bouncing these two mad worlds and that's why he's
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: mister in Between. And it stars a guy called Scott
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Ryan who wrote, He wrote it and he stars in it.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: And the strange thing about Scot Ryan Helen Murraan when
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: she saw it, she recommended that our early agents sign
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: him up, which he did. But it's the only thing
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: that he's ever done. If you go on if you
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: check out the International Movie Database which MD, who's an actor,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: that's it's all there. If you check out i m dB,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: that's all he's done. And he's absolutely brilliant. And it's
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: a fantastic series. There's only it's it's three series. There's
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: three seasons and yeah, I think you, I think you'd
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: really enjoy it m D. I've recommended to go. How
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: come I don't know about.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: That look well. Thanks again, thank you very much, thanks
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: for having enjoyed it.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Chills