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Can Anyone Stop the Spurs and Thunder This Season? NBA Season preview and Predictions! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Wish Wimby was my dad.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome, welcome back to another episode.
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  Speaker 3: Episode 169 of the So-Called Sports Analyst, where Josh wishes
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  Speaker 3: Wimby was his dad, and Ryan is a secret Cavs fan.
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  Speaker 1: Wimby is my dad. Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 3: We're here.
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  Speaker 1: We're back with a new season of NBA basketball. This
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  Speaker 1: is going to be instant reaction. Not instant reaction, but
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  Speaker 1: NBA preview. We're going to go into our prediction on
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  Speaker 1: who's going to finish at the top, who might be
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  Speaker 1: the champion, who's going to be at the bottom, NBA
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  Speaker 1: award predictions. But before I get into that, I think
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  Speaker 1: me and Fonzo have an announcement on where the TSCSA
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  Speaker 1: is going to go from here. Because we got some
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  Speaker 1: stuff cooking. You already saw. the beginning of it with
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  Speaker 1: the new college football podcast slash MLB that came out
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  Speaker 1: with a new edition, Braden. So it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a lot more people coming through. We have another guy
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  Speaker 1: about to join in a new podcast, American Gooners. I'm
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  Speaker 1: announcing the name right now. It's official. Me and Ryan
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  Speaker 1: are starting a football podcast. We're talking about the real football,
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  Speaker 1: the football that the world loves. We're going to start
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  Speaker 1: talking football. everything around it. And we have another guy
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  Speaker 1: joining us to do that. So we're really turning it
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  Speaker 1: into a network. And I just, I'm pretty excited about it.
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  Speaker 1: I remember staying up to 4 a.m., grinding out content,
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  Speaker 1: week in, week out, 168 episodes strong. We are, and
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  Speaker 1: it's only going to go up from here. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how y'all feel about it, but I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: excited to where the, where the, the, where the whole
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  Speaker 1: of our group is going.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just glad... Go ahead, Ry. No, go ahead, Ry.
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  Speaker 3: You're good.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just hyped, bro. Y'all really had a life when
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  Speaker 4: y'all started it. Y'all were below 20. Y'all were below
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  Speaker 4: 23 and now we are like 25.
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  Speaker 3: Dang. I was a freshman in college.
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  Speaker 1: Dang.
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  Speaker 3: And now you're old as hell. You're an unk now
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  Speaker 3: with us. You were a senior in high school? Dang.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 3: No, honestly, I remember.
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  Speaker 1: I think so.
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  Speaker 3: It was, like, summer.
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  Speaker 1: Dang.
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  Speaker 4: Right after I graduated or something.
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  Speaker 3: Because, yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 4: I was working at HE. No.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe close. It was.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. I think it was episode, like,
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  Speaker 3: 11 or 12, Josh joined. So, like, I mean, Josh
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  Speaker 3: is pretty much.
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  Speaker 4: No, I think I was a freshman. I was fresh
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  Speaker 4: out of high school. I remember.
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  Speaker 3: That's insane.
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  Speaker 4: Because I just started getting closer to Josh and everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to hate this guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Now he's all right. I'm going to be in his wedding.
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  Speaker 1: Like one of my best friends.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for real. I remember what it was like three
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  Speaker 3: years ago coming up with the name and everything. Then
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  Speaker 3: Josh and I took off from that point forward. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Like looking back, revision history. But it's only getting better.
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  Speaker 3: Like you're saying, it's going to be a network.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to stay true to our roots. You're
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  Speaker 1: going to get mid-ass analytics done. You're going to get
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  Speaker 1: a lot of crazy opinions.
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  Speaker 4: That's why we're so cold. We're not.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, we are a
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  Speaker 1: biased sports podcast. We do not do that non-biased stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Our roots are biased sports podcasting. We do not care
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  Speaker 1: about being with the norm and the opinions of the world.
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  Speaker 1: We stay true to our guys, look at our chests,
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  Speaker 1: We re I rep the best team in the world.
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  Speaker 1: They rep Fonzo reps, the second best team in the world. And, and,
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  Speaker 1: and Ryan, Ryan, that's, that's a barely a team to
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  Speaker 1: begin with. So we're going to, um, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: move into the, to the beginning of this pod. So,
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  Speaker 1: so boys tell me who was the favorite this season.
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  Speaker 1: We're just going to jump right into it. Who is
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  Speaker 1: the favorite in y'all's opinion? To win the NBA championship
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  Speaker 1: this year.
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  Speaker 4: Whoever we have on our chest, I think, is the favorite.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's clearly going to be the Chicago Bulls here.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't you see we just traded for Buddy Hill?
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Wilson.
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  Speaker 4: Caleb Wilson is going to take them to the top.
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  Speaker 1: Take them to the top. MVP, DPOY, all in the
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  Speaker 1: same season.
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  Speaker 3: That mentality is different, bro. The mentality is different. Kobe mentality. No,
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  Speaker 3: but all seriousness coming from a guy who's pretty much
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  Speaker 3: going to be on the outside looking in as far
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  Speaker 3: as all the favorites. I think this is clearly a
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  Speaker 3: four-way race. Words distributed equally on both sides. You have
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  Speaker 3: the Thunder. You have the Spurs. And you have the Knicks,
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  Speaker 3: of course, the reigning champs. You're bringing back the friends,
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  Speaker 3: pretty much, the Knicks and friends. And the newly- Not even.
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  Speaker 4: No, you're not bringing them back.
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  Speaker 1: The Sixers.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to be back. With now
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  Speaker 3: LeBron James- on the Sixers. This is a whole different dynamic.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't even get to talk about this. There was
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  Speaker 3: so many moves this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we didn't even get to talk about the Spurs
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  Speaker 1: and the NBA championships.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't talk about anything.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't talk about any NBA playoffs. We've been so
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  Speaker 1: on a hiatus.
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  Speaker 4: I think me and you did the last.
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  Speaker 1: Basketball podcast, Josh. Yeah, me and Ryan did a couple
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  Speaker 1: by ourselves, but we just.
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  Speaker 3: No, the last one was award predictions.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have my equipment with me. I left. We
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  Speaker 1: all just kind of took a big old break, but no...
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to elaborate more into the
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  Speaker 1: LeBron James, the Philadelphia 76ers, and what you think of
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  Speaker 1: their title odds.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're ranked fifth right now in title odds
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  Speaker 3: from what I'm seeing. And I just think the biggest
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  Speaker 3: thing is going to be not necessarily the talent. It's
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  Speaker 3: going to be compared to the Thunders, Spurs, and the Knicks.
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  Speaker 3: The fit is not as good. But as far as
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  Speaker 3: if you're just taking pure talent, as far as that
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  Speaker 3: starting lineup of Tyrese Maxey, Vijay Edgecombe, LeBron James, Joel Embiid,
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  Speaker 3: that's and Jalen Brown I also forgot to mention that
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  Speaker 3: who got traded this offseason this is the clearly the
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  Speaker 3: most talented starting five I know there's Wimby in the
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  Speaker 3: Spurs OKC in the Thunder and then the Knicks just
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  Speaker 3: won a championship but clearly clearly by far the most
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  Speaker 3: talent and I just think offensively is this gonna fit
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  Speaker 3: together obviously LeBron he demands a ball Joel Embiid demands
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  Speaker 3: a ball VJ Edgecombe is a rising star. Tyrese Maxey,
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  Speaker 3: he's had the keys to his offense for a while. So,
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  Speaker 3: so many mouths on this team. But who's really going
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  Speaker 3: to get fed and who's going to pretty much step down?
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  Speaker 3: It looks like it's going to be LeBron. It looks
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  Speaker 3: like it's going to be VJ Edgecombe. But also, you
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  Speaker 3: really don't know. But I want to hear from you
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  Speaker 3: guys as far as from y'all's team as far as.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll get into that in a minute. I kind
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  Speaker 1: of want to dig deep into the 76ers real quick.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that's a very important topic to discuss.
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  Speaker 1: I really do agree with you as far as the
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  Speaker 1: starting five. At least the main four who we think
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  Speaker 1: are going to be there throughout the entirety of the
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  Speaker 1: season when we look at Jalen Brown, LeBron James, Vijay Edgecombe,
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  Speaker 1: and Tyrese Maxx. That's the core of the group. That's
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  Speaker 1: the nucleus. That's what we're getting excited about. Now, what
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  Speaker 1: would make this team more exciting is how many games
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  Speaker 1: are we going to get out of Joel Embiid this season?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a matter of how many games
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  Speaker 1: is that? Is he going to be there in the
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  Speaker 1: most crucial moments and provide top tier basketball? Now, obviously
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  Speaker 1: it's very clear. He's lost a step. He's not the
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  Speaker 1: same defensive centerpiece that he used to be. He's not
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  Speaker 1: the same score. Like as far as in the low
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  Speaker 1: block as he used to be, he's still obviously a
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  Speaker 1: dynamic player when healthy. He, we saw it clear as
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  Speaker 1: day when he came back down three, one in the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs last season, along with these other guys. But I
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  Speaker 1: think if, What makes that team scary is if come
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  Speaker 1: playoff time, that starting five or those top five players
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  Speaker 1: are all available at the same time, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be insane to watch them play in the playoffs. The
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  Speaker 1: East is a lot more balanced than it used to be.
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  Speaker 1: But right now, I just think it's hard to look
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  Speaker 1: at these five guys and think, wow, what? And think
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  Speaker 1: that they're going to falter immediately. in the face of
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  Speaker 1: conflict when they have literally the guy that can steer
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  Speaker 1: the ship who has the most experience in the entire
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  Speaker 1: NBA in LeBron James. And the good thing about LeBron
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  Speaker 1: James joining this Philadelphia 76ers basketball team is not that
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  Speaker 1: he's there to be the star. He's not there to
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  Speaker 1: be the top scorer. He's there to be the guy
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  Speaker 1: that strings things together. That's really all he is right
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  Speaker 1: now at this point in his career, especially in this team.
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  Speaker 1: I think in LA, it was a battle of, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the guy. No, I'm the guy. No, I'm the guy.
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  Speaker 1: I think here there's a clear, oh, he's LeBron James.
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  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, LeBron James is
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  Speaker 1: one of the best facilitators in NBA history. And he's
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  Speaker 1: going to have guys all around him, whether Joel Embiid's
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  Speaker 1: healthy and P.J. Edgecombe, Tyrese Maxey, who's more than likely
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  Speaker 1: going to handle the Rock at all times, Jalen Brown.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be the guy that's able to take
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  Speaker 1: the guys that are really ball dominant and say, no,
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  Speaker 1: let me get y'all the Rock. Let me get y'all
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  Speaker 1: put y'all in the places where y'all need to be,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously just lead this team in a way that
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  Speaker 1: he's never done before, where he's not the main scorer,
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  Speaker 1: but in fact the main facilitator at all times. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's going to be exciting to see. Now my
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  Speaker 1: thing is, if Joel Embiid isn't healthy, Adam Bona, Dominic Barlow,
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  Speaker 1: some of these big men that they have is a
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  Speaker 1: big question marks. That may be the problem for this team.
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  Speaker 1: I think down in the down getting rebounds in the
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  Speaker 1: defensive interior, that might be the problem that hinders this
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  Speaker 1: basketball team. But as of right now, going into the season,
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  Speaker 1: if we can get 20, 30 games from Joel Embiid
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  Speaker 1: in the regular season and a healthy postseason, this team
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  Speaker 1: is going to look a lot scary. A lot. It's
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  Speaker 1: going to be really hard to deal with in general
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  Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Usually I'm not one to favor these teams that just...
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  Speaker 4: stockpile a lot of stars and I was going to
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  Speaker 4: say something about it until y'all started explaining more But
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  Speaker 4: I do think that whenever I see teams like that,
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  Speaker 4: it's a lot of, like you're saying, Josh, they're mainly
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  Speaker 4: ball dominant. But if there's anyone, like if there's any
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  Speaker 4: collective group of players, I'm more worried about them being
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  Speaker 4: passive than them wanting the ball, if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: Because Jalen Brown, he's been in a situation where he's
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  Speaker 4: dealt with another star in Jason Tatum. Joel Embiid, he's
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  Speaker 4: done the same. Tyrese Maxey, he's been with Joel. It's
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  Speaker 4: LeBron James. But at the end of the day, what
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  Speaker 4: can you expect from a LeBron at 41 years old?
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  Speaker 4: It's LeBron James, I know that. Literally, I'm such a
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  Speaker 4: big LeBron fan, but he's 41 years old. Our expectations
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  Speaker 4: are so high for him. but at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the day, he's 41. He's going to be 42. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. I'm not saying his offensive impact, I think,
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  Speaker 4: is always going to be there, but on defense, there
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  Speaker 4: will be star power around him. He might be able
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  Speaker 4: to be more defensive heavy, but I don't know. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like we're just putting so much on LeBron, too,
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  Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, this dude's getting old.
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  Speaker 4: He's one of the greatest athletes of all time, but
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  Speaker 4: feel like, in my opinion, we have to temper expectations.
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  Speaker 4: I do like what they did in the offseason other
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  Speaker 4: than these big moves. Bringing in LeBaron Phylon, bringing in
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  Speaker 4: Anthony Simons, that's not too bad. But I really like
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  Speaker 4: the LeBaron Phylon. They also brought in Dean Wade, who
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  Speaker 4: I think is underrated forward. And yeah, if Joel Embiid
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  Speaker 4: is hurt, which we know happens every year, it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be hard for them to be able to compete
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  Speaker 4: with these bigger teams. And yeah, I just don't know. Um,
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  Speaker 4: like say the Knicks, how in the playoffs, how are
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  Speaker 4: they going to, um, like bear well against the Knicks
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  Speaker 4: if they don't have a big man, you know, that's
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  Speaker 4: going to be pretty hard. Even the Pacers, um, who
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  Speaker 4: just got, uh, Avicii Zubac. Um, also who else we
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  Speaker 4: can bring in?
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  Speaker 3: The Miami Heat now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The Heat. Um, um, we can name, A couple other teams,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the Boston Celtics. I mean, they're still always going
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  Speaker 1: to hurt you no matter what.
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  Speaker 3: The Orlando Magic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I was saying. But I think that just
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  Speaker 1: goes back to the point of like that I said
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  Speaker 1: that the Eastern Conference is the most balanced it's ever been.
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  Speaker 1: Like there's so many good teams now. There's not just
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  Speaker 1: the top two teams and they're going to run through
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  Speaker 1: the East. Now you got... You know what's crazy? The
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  Speaker 1: number one team... Crazy prediction I'm going to throw out
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  Speaker 1: there right now. The number one team from the East
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  Speaker 1: last year might not even... Might just barely get.
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  Speaker 3: By in the play-in.
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  Speaker 1: They're not even going to be assembled. They might just
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  Speaker 1: barely get into the play-in. Like, I don't see them
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  Speaker 1: as a contender. I think right now you've got teams
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  Speaker 1: as the Boston Celtics, like the Cleveland Cavaliers, like the
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  Speaker 1: team we're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, Philadelphia Raptors, the Miami Heat, the New York Knicks.
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  Speaker 4: That's six teams right there, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And the Indiana Pacers getting Tyrese Halliburton back with the
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  Speaker 1: bitches Zubach, with a couple more reinforcements. Like, right now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly who is... going to make the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs in the eastern conference like if you really were
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  Speaker 1: to sit here and ask me because it's it's yeah
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  Speaker 1: it's all i think i can pick the clear top
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  Speaker 1: guys i think i'm gonna go basically the celtics that
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  Speaker 1: miami heat and the philadelphia san jose and the new
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  Speaker 1: york knicks are all going to be the set four
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  Speaker 1: teams for me that make the playoffs but if we
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  Speaker 1: look outside of that it's going to be so interchangeable
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  Speaker 1: and there's going to be a really good basketball team
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  Speaker 1: that just misses the mark and for me i i
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  Speaker 1: think it's kind of an exciting place to be for
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  Speaker 1: the nba that the western conference and eastern conference are
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  Speaker 1: just both so stacked right now i don't remember a
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  Speaker 1: time in my lifetime where the eastern conference i know
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  Speaker 1: i'm only 24 years old but where the the eastern
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  Speaker 1: conference okay where the eastern conference where the eastern conference
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  Speaker 1: has looked this stacked from top to bottom it just
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  Speaker 1: hasn't happened and.
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  Speaker 3: I want to say something. I agree on that, too.
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  Speaker 3: I want to say as far as.
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  Speaker 4: And the Hornets.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't even talk about the Hornets. Like, the Hornets
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  Speaker 1: are going to make strides this year.
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  Speaker 3: There's plenty of.
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  Speaker 4: Young, exciting teams. They have Christian Anderson.
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  Speaker 3: That's all you need.
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  Speaker 4: Tech. You're lagging.
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  Speaker 3: I'm lagging bad?
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  Speaker 4: Is he lagging to you, Josh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's lagging.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, am I still lagging? All you need is Christian
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  Speaker 4: Anderson and... And Conk and Epple, two of my favorite
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  Speaker 4: college players ever.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think if we really look at the
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  Speaker 1: other side of that trade, you know, when we look
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  Speaker 1: at the Paul George aspect of it, like going to Boston,
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  Speaker 1: because obviously Jalen Brown joins the 76ers, but Paul George,
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  Speaker 1: I think, I understand. Paul George is not the same
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  Speaker 1: guy he used to be. Injuries have derailed this career 100%.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think he still has some left in
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  Speaker 1: the tank to be an understudy. Definitely. He's not the first.
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  Speaker 1: He's not the best player on the team. He's not
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  Speaker 1: the second best player on the team. And he might
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  Speaker 1: not even be the third best player on this Boston
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  Speaker 1: Celtics team at this point in his career. But what
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  Speaker 1: he does offer... Yeah, he definitely is better than Hugo Gonzalez.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm talking about more guys like Jason Tatum, Derek White,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Peyton Pritchard at this point in their career. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I do think that this team is still exciting. I
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  Speaker 1: think maybe this is going to be a year... Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I believe in Joe Mazzullo just put a team together.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the acquisition of Mitchell Robinson gives them
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  Speaker 1: a threat that they didn't have before. It gives them
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  Speaker 1: just that stout, rebounding defender that they haven't had in
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  Speaker 1: a while. I understand Robert Williams was really good for
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: them for what he was doing. But I just think
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson, when he's healthy, is a lot better at
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: just doing the nasty things of just playing... hard-nosed basketball.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: We saw what he's been able to do versus Wimby. Obviously,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: you can't always stop Wimby, but what you're able to
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: do as an aggressor, he could definitely do that against
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: these other teams in the Eastern Conference, and Having that guy,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: and I think plus the acquisition of Chris Sinek, bro,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's an under-the-radar draft pick. Like, I wanted
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the Spurs to draft him. Yeah, I think that was
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: such a good draft pick. But I like how our
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: draft ended up going. But the value, he just kept
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: falling and falling and falling and just landed right into
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics' lap, offering them a guy that can
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: develop still. But also, he can eventually become a really
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: good starting five, I think, in the NBA. Even a good.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: High end four.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: He's a four to me.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a four.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: He's like a Khalil Ware. Yeah, I get that, but
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the way that the Boston Celtics play, you know, just
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: 3 and D, I think he'll fit right in as
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: far as being able to run the court.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. And I think Ron Harper Jr.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Might take a leap.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: I think he earned that contract. I think he did
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: really good. I agree with everything you said. My only
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: thing is, I would temper expectations for the Sixers.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I know everyone's high on them, but I don't know.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I think it's just hard not to be high on them. Like,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: are you really going to sit here and.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: No, I know what you mean, but, like, I just–
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: we've never really, I guess.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Seen it work out, obviously.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think either one of these teams– I
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: don't think beats the Spurs or the– Spurs or Thunder.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Like, if we're being completely honest.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: You don't think that they have a chance against clear
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: runaway favorites? You don't think they have a chance against
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: the Thunder or Spurs?
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I think– Well, I think now this is going to
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: lead into these two teams. Now, if we look at the...
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: At least for me, let me talk about the San
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs. I think the San Antonio Spurs are now
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: at a point where they got the experience. People were
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: saying they need the experience. They need their experience. And
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: they just ran through the Western Conference. If we're being
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: completely honest, sure, they had a couple struggles. But at
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, they got there pretty decisively
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: against the opposition. As the youngest basketball team in the
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: playoffs in a... And the youngest in the entire NBA.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: They were able to make it to the NBA championship
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: so early on in Victor Wimonyama's tenure. And I understand
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: when they got to the New York Knicks, we definitely
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: saw that inexperience come out to play. Like, just the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: inability to be able to finish off games. They led,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: what was the stat, 76% of the entire series?
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, they led most of the fourth quarters.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: They literally, like, let's be honest, they should have swept
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the New York Knicks if they had experience. Like, I
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: don't think anyone can really argue with that sentiment. They
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: led every single game going into the fourth quarter, like
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Fonzo said. And one of them, I was punching the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: seat at walk-ons because they blew a 30-point lead. Like,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: come on. Like, this team, if this team, you give
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: this team that experience... That's going to be really hard
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: to beat the San Antonio Spurs in any point in
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, especially the NBA championship. I don't
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: care who you are. The only team that I see
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: as a threat, to be honest, is the Oklahoma City
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Thunder because they have the experience. They have SGA. They
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: have J-Dub.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: They brought in a couple of guys that I really like,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: especially through the draft.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Our guy, Bennett Sturtz, he's really good. Jerry McCain, another year.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: to learn and grow in this system that Mark Dagnall
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: has established. The Oklahoma City Thunder, to me, are the
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: second best team in the NBA. And I don't mean
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: to take anything away from them because I am a
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: hater of theirs. But at the end of the day,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I think the San Antonio Spurs with Victor Wimbinyama going
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: into year four, that's crazy to say, but Victor Wimbinyama
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: going into year four, he's about to be a force
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: to be reckoned with. People are already doubting on him,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: hating on his offensive game.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: He's 22 years old.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: He's a baby still. He's not even entered his prime yet,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and he already was averaging 24 points per game. On
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: per 36, he was averaging... 28, 14, and 6. Once
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: these minutes go up, because I guarantee you the Spurs
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: are not going to put him on a minutes restriction
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: like they've had these last couple of seasons because we
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: saw the effect of it in the playoffs. He was
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: tired each and every single game. That's not going to
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: happen again this year. I think definitely maybe the first
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: half of the season, he'd take the rest. But post-All-Star break,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: he is going to ramp up. Trust me. Now, the
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: question mark. The depth. We know the Spurs have depth.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: We know the Spurs have defensive players galore. There's a
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: reason why they were able to beat the Oklahoma City
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Thunder more than anybody ever has over the last couple
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of seasons because they can match them super well and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: they're just bigger. They're just better athletes. They're just bigger.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: That's what the San Antonio Spurs have. But now you
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: add a guy like Terrence Reed Jr. who I think
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: will play a role off the bench being able to
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: learn from a couple of these guys. Bring it in.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: tobias harris which is so much needed for the san
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: antonio spurs we didn't have a low block present at
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: all a post offensive player who can just have a
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a go-to shot like a fadeaway that tobias harris has
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: we didn't have that type of player a three and
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: d player like tobias harris on the wing who can
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: also space the floor for victor wimbanyama he is such
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: a low-key signing but also the perfect signing that the
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: san antonio spurs needed to to be able to propel
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: them forward obviously um obviously we have a yeah yeah
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: i just went blank on his name like i was
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: just gonna say quaintness but i've wanted jayden quaintance he's
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: not gonna be there to start the season but that's
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: okay he was a future draft anyways all about the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: potential because we knew what he was poke pre-injury in
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: college basketball but terry street junior for me is just
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the exact guy that they kind of needed a guy
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that's just gonna hold down the paint when victor wimbanyama's
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: off the court who can kind of um play that
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: pick and roll very good maybe hit a couple of
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: dominate on the inside. I think he can develop into that. Obviously,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it's not going to happen immediately. We all understand that.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Luke Cornett's still there. We'll be fine. I understand they
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: picked on him a lot in the NBA championship, but
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: that's not going to happen to Luke Cornett on a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: game-to-game basis. He was arguably the best backup big man
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: in the entire NBA the whole regular season. His defensive
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: numbers look so bad. Because it was going up against Wimby. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Because Wimby's the best of all time. Like, this is
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: at defending the paint. So when you have a guy
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: that you come in and you're still, what's crazy, Luke
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Cornett comes in and they're still one of the top
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: teams in the NBA when it comes to protecting the rim,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: which is insane, especially for second units. So being able
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to learn from Luke Cornett, just the ropes is going
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: to be a big deal for Terrence Reed Jr. But
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: obviously that's the future. That's future. That's future. Right now,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: there's a question that needs to be had because F
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: coming off the bench is what Dylan Harper said. He
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: does not want to come off the bench. So who
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: are we starting? That's the question mark. Like, De'Aaron Fox,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: is he coming off the bench? Which I doubt. You're
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: paying a guy almost 60 minutes. Steph Castle was not
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: coming off the bench, though. He's the best defensive player
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: on the team outside of Victor Wimbanyama. Yeah, and he's
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: a playmaker, and he attacks the rim. If you're paying
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: De'Aaron Fox that much, there's no way you sit. Well,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I know. I think the plan was originally— De'Aaron Fox
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and Stephon Castle, but you know what happened? They ended
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: up getting the second overall pick, so things changed. De'Aaron
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Fox is no longer the second or third most important
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: player on this team. He's the fourth most important player
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: on the team. Yeah, definitely. So why would you bench
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Stephon Castle and hinder his development? You don't do that,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: especially a guy that's still needing and getting reps from
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the three-point line. I think they might have to start
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: all three.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe Dylan Harper comes up at the three. You think
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Keldon goes up to the bench?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: No, Kelton's been on the bench. He was a sixth man.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: So why didn't you play the four?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: No, so I think what it's going to be, it's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: going to be Steph. No, I think Tobias Harris comes
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: off the bench as well. I think it's going to be,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I think one of Julian Champagny or Devin Vassell is
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: going to play the four to start the game. Like,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I think one of them two is going to be
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the ones that plays the four. kind of like the
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Harrison Barnes earlier in the season, a small four, but
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: that can stretch the floor.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: When you have Wimby, you don't really need a four.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need a real four. Obviously, we're going
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: to have the death lineup when Tobias Harris comes in.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I think Carter Bryant's development, which I haven't even gotten into,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: is going to be insane for this basketball team.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: That was one of my guys coming out the draft, bro.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I love that. But I think– There's so many options.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: It's too many good scenarios. It's hard.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: You can't hold back. I'm sorry Dylan Harper is better
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: than De'Aaron Fox. By halfway through the season, Dylan Harper
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: is going to surpass him right now. He's just so good.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: You saw he was the best player for the San
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs in the NBA championship as a 19-year-old. As
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: a 19-year-old, he was the best player for the San
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs in the NBA championship. Consistent offense. He cannot
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: be held back. Maybe he comes off the bench to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: start the season. But he won't stay there for long.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: That is for sure. And where I think that, I
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: think ultimately we're going to win the NBA championship. And
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I think ultimately we're going to break the franchise record
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: of wins with 68. This is, for me, I've watched
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: so much Spurs basketball in my entire life. This is
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the best team that I think they've had assembled since
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I've been a fan. Obviously, since 2014. After that, after this,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: this is easily the best team. And we're talking about
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: teams that had Kawhi, prime Kawhi. Prime LaMarcus Aldridge. Me
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and Fonzo talked about it a couple weeks ago, I
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: think in the chair. I genuinely believe this basketball team,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and they're not even in their primes yet. That's the
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: scary part.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Those were a lot of good points, but my opinion,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: they're not the best team in the league because across
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: from them is the Oklahoma City Thunder. And whenever you
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: have An all-star, an all-defensive player coming back to your
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: lineup with a healthy offseason under his belt, you know,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: getting back to where he needs to be in match fitness.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Shout-out football. I think he's just going to take such
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: a big lead this year. Same with Chet. He gained
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: two pounds. We're getting there, baby.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Those two pounds are going to help you against Wimpy
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Bro just had a meal before you waited. That's all
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: And then we have SGA, who I believe is the
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: best player in the NBA. Third best player in the NBA.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Fourth best player in the NBA. Yeah, he just won back-to-back,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: but whatever. He's about to go for the three-peat in MVPs.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Can't wait for what people are going to say about him.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: They're going to be like, oh, this, this, this, that.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: And I want people to realize that. He won the
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Western Conference last year while his second and his third
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: best player missed more than half of the season. With
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: them being able to come back healthy, I think it's
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: going to make such a drastic impact to this team.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: And I feel like they've been doing this. This isn't
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: nothing new to them. I like what we were able
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: to do in the offseason. Bringing in Deymara, who does
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: need polishing.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: He does need polishing. But just bringing in another big body.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I think he's good. I think he's good, but definitely
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: needs polishing.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: He's good, but he's not like– he's a rookie for
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: a reason. And then when you bring in Bennett Sturtz,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: who Josh has loved, I've.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Loved ever since he was at– Not no more. Not
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: no more. Not no more, though, guys. Just get that right.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Not no more.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Or was he Creighton?
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: It was Creighton? Yeah, when he was at Creighton. Oh,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: my gosh.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: And then he transferred to Iowa, and then he had
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: such a good.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: March Madness.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Dude, me and Ryan were going hard for Bennett Sturtz
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: for a little bit, bro.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Now we're Creighton fans, bro.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Now he gets to go for him and I get
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: to hate on him. What a beautiful turn of events.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: That's how I am with Carter Bryant. I can't like
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Carter Bryant no more. And then we retained Kendrick Williams.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: We were able to re-sign Isaiah Hardenstein on a pretty
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: friendly deal, I feel like. And one of the biggest upgrades,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I feel like, in my opinion, and probably the rest
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: of the Lee's opinion, is we were able to get
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: rid of Lou Dort, who was so impactful. So throughout
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: his tenure with a thunder as well as on our
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: championship run, but that allows for the leap and the
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: growth of case in Wallace. We saw what he was
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: able to do in SGA was out those couple games.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: This dude, it just helps us with the ball handler.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: We haven't had someone that's also why it's good. Getting
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Jared McCain in the off season with the team. There's
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: been so many clips of them. They're just always together.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: These dudes are always together. The team Kim is like
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: a thousand.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: AJ Mitchell healthy.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: AJ Mitchell healthy. I feel like this is the most
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: ball handlers. Nikola Topic is actually coming back. This is
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: the most ball handlers we've had in, I think, ever
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: since the past five years. Like with.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Are these... That's been the problem. That's been the problem.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Lou Dort.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: We'd had Lou Dort. We'd have Lou Dort on the.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I was about to say on the pitch.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I got a question.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: On the court.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt. I'm sorry to interrupt. go but
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: are these the two most complete basketball teams that would
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: say since since golden state went 73 and the spurs
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: went 67 wins or are these.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: The two Because I was looking at both depth charts.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: They both go 11 deep.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Like at the same time. At the same time simultaneously.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: And I think the biggest thing is that there's so
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: many different situations and different plans where they could throw.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: They both address weaknesses. Yeah.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't mention Thomas Sorber's coming back as well. Yes,
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: I was going to mention that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: No, but Fonzo, complete your thought, my bad.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: No, you're good. No, it's just they go 11 to
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: 12 deep. Both of these, and there's different cards for
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: obviously there's going to be different scenarios whenever just sometimes
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: the shot's not working, you need a spark plug off
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: the bench. Each one of them have it, or if
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: you want to have defensive specialists on the court. And
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: also one of the things that makes this even crazier
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: is that you definitively have the best player and the
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: second best player in the world on their both respective teams.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: And there's been a consistency with these teams. And these
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: main players are only getting into their primes. SGA just
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: won back-to-back MVPs. Wimby is a favorite to win MVP
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: and DPOY. So, I mean, this is rare error that
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: you're having on both sides. Because not only that, the second, third,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: and fourth guys are all all-star potential. So, I think
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: this could go back... like revision history in the next
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: five to 10 years, not even exaggerating on my portion.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I think, I think this could rival the eighties Lakers
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Celtics in the same. They're just in the same conference.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: That's, that's what sucks.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I wish we could just like, I wish we could
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: just like say, Hey.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: One of y'all go to this side and one of
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: y'all stay on this side.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: I think this is what the Spurs and Thunder, if
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: the Thunder stayed together, this was, I think this is
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: what it could have become with, well, the Spurs were older,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: but like the rivalry-esque kind of.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: The timelines were off for both teams at the time.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: They were a little off, but like, if that makes sense,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: I think this is how like high level these teams
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: are is like you said, they can go 11 deep.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: They just throw players out. And I think, that the
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Spurs have the defensive advantage on their bench and the Thunder,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: you can argue this, but I think the Thunder have
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: the offensive advantage on their bench.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Like if you, like if the.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Thunder won the scoreboard. I think it's the Panthers coming
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: off the bench for the Spurs.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: But I think if we were just to like go
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: down the line, I feel.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel you. Because we could, you could argue.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Either way, but I think for offensively off the bench,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: I would take the Thunder, but defensively I would take
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: the Spurs just because of how well-rounded they are. Yeah,
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: the size as well. But I think we did add
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: a good amount of size this offseason.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I think Thomas Sorbet will be back. I wonder how
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: he's going to look. I definitely don't think he's going
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: to be getting big-time minutes this year. No, he won't.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I think maybe towards post-All-Star break, I can see him
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: start ramping up into a more consistent player for the rotation.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: But definitely immediately, no.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me either.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: My thing is, for the Thunder... And the answer for
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: me is why I doubt them. I understand if I
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: take my non-biased hat off, why I'm going to doubt
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: them is if Chet goes up against Wimby, is he
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: going to disappear again? Is he going to disappear again?
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: That's the thing.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: And he can't just shoot threes. And Ade Mara right now,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he's going to turn into. But
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: what I saw, he's not quick enough to guard Wimby.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Wimby's going to look at him and just think like...
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Baby food. Baby food right now. Yeah, right now at
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: this point. But as far as Chet Holmgren, he literally
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: is built to be the guy that defends women. Him
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and Evan Mobley, I would argue. But, like, right now, like,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I just think he is– he was so bad, bro. Like,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not even going to– Oh, yeah, it was embarrassing.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: It was so embarrassing. He was so bad.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: And I think I was– It outraged me how bad
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: he was, and it was just so embarrassing going online.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Looking at people make fun of your favorite team. At night,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: I wanted to cry into my pillow because.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Of how bad it was. We were making fun of him.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: We were making fun of him.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Damien, who's a new Spurs fan now.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Damien's an honorary Spurs fan. I'll say this. I
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: know we're going to give a prediction a little later,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: but I'll say this, why I favor the Spurs over
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: the Thunder. There's so many more cards. the Spurs have
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: that they could actually throw at SGA that can work.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: You have Stephon Castle. You have Dylan Harper. And we
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: saw that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: We saw that all last season.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: You saw that. But compared to the Thunder on Wimby.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: But I feel like when he needs to turn it on.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: It happens.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: But then his teammates aren't there, if that makes sense.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Like game seven.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: No.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: No, I get that. I get that. But like how
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: many guys definitively you could say on comparing like the
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Spurs guard and Shea, you have three, four bodies compared
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: to the Thunder guard and Wimby.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: But I think that's why we brought in Ade Mara.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: You can't stop Wimby. No one's ever going to stop Wimby.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: But if you throw bodies at him, you can wear
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: him down. And we saw that's what he struggles with
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: is when he gets worn down. You just got to
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: be physical with him. Look how Cap plays with him.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I think now they know that, though. Now the Spurs
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: know that definitively. There's definitely going to be... There's a
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: reason you bring in a Tobias Harris. There's a reason
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you draft two backup centers. There's a reason why Luke
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Cornette is there.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: I feel like.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Was such a gravitational pull to our defense. That like.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: We had no one to guard him. Like we didn't
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: have bodies to throw at him. So now. That we
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: do have bodies. We can focus more.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: On like the perimeter.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: The three. The corner shots. Because that's what we give
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: up so much.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: And that.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Like that series. And the three pointers. Because I think
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: that's what really killed us. Is due to his gravity.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: And the Thunder not being able to throw players at him.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Kind of like the Knicks were.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: You weren't able.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: To focus on the players around him. And then that's
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: what made them win is because of all the outside
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: perimeter shooting.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I know they didn't shoot the.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Best, but I feel like that's where OKC got killed.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: But also another year of Carter Bryant is going to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: make a big deal of a difference. I think genuinely...
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: he has the potential. He said his goal is to
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: be the second best defender in the world. I legit
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: think he has the potential to be a top defender
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: in the world. No one can question that. Look what
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: he was doing to SGA in spurts. Obviously, it wasn't
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: just one-on-one. He was able to hold his own. Obviously,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Jalen Bruns is a different type of player. He kind
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: of got to Carter Bryant. But as far as SGA,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: when you put a big body on a big body,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Who's just the more athletic guy who's usually going to
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: come out on top? And we saw that a couple
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: of times. My thing is, we saw the Spurs, like
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: how Fonz was making the point, with the bodies on
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: bodies on bodies that you can throw at people defensively.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: We saw SGA and Jalen Brunson. Understand, both of them
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: turned up when they needed to turn up, when the
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: most crunch time mattered. But we saw them have the
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: worst shooting percentages of their entire seasons. their worst performances
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: of their entire seasons versus the San Antonio Spurs defense,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: who was in their first year full season with Mitch Johnson.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I think this next season with a full slate, obviously
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: we'll see how if Sean Sweeney is, is makes a
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: big difference being gone, but we got big D coming in,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Billy Donovan as the assistant coach. So, um, like I said,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: free Billy, I said, free Billy, hashtag free Billy. He's
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: free now, but, um, But I really do think that
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: they addressed what you were talking about as far as
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: leaving Wimby on an island and bodies getting thrown at him.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I think they addressed that. I understand these guys are young.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: But my thing is they brought in guys that fit
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: a specific mold. And that's, I'm going to protect this
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: paint no matter what mold. That's what the Spurs went
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: after in the draft. They went after these guys that
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: are going to protect the paint. Obviously, Jaden Quaintance, if
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: he is healthy, which I doubt he's not going to be.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe by playoff time, he might be there.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I think he might just miss the first season in
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: all honesty.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I agree. I think it's going to
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: be a season. He didn't even play last year. He
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: got hurt. I think it's going to be a redshirt year, definitely.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: But I think Terrence Reed Jr. is going to play
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: a big role in the San Antonio Spurs basketball team.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: And I do think having that big body along with
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Luke Cornett.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I see him as a mid-trub light.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Because if Luke Cornett wasn't in there, if Wimby wasn't
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: in there, we had... freaking carter bryant playing the five
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: you know so it was like now we have a
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: true center in that position that plays good defense and
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: okay i want to say this with the yukon experience
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: like yeah with the.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Yukon you want him under anyone yeah.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I'll say this right i don't know how you feel
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: about this and i think there's okay there's definitely not
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: much to improve from sg as far as from him
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: offensively wise but i'm gonna i'm just saying this i
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: hate i'm just saying this as far as from a
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: playoff perspective since you're saying there's a lot more ball
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: handlers on the thunder that you can really trust now
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: i'm wondering if there's gonna be if in the first
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: half of the season where sj is going to be
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: playing off ball and be playing off of screens like
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: playing now i'm not saying like steph curry like i'm
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: not saying that extreme but shooting more threes and being
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: more efficient Because I think that'll work in a playoff setting,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: especially with the Spurs being able to... throw all the.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Bodies he has done that before he has done a
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: lot like at a higher clip that's what I'm wondering
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: right there I can see him playing I guess you
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: could label it as him being a shooting guard if
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: that's what you're trying to say like he could.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Kind of yeah just at a higher clip I.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Think the only guy that they really have on their
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: team who like take the ball off Shea is A.J.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Mitchell.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Case and Wallace can do that, I think.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I get that, but He's not a facilitator. You know
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: You don't think J-Dub could step into a big role?
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: People are forgetting how good healthy J-Dub is.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Healthy J-Dub is good.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: He's an all-defensive first-team player. I'm thinking of the guards
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: because Fonzo brought up guards. I'm thinking of guards right now.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: I don't think J-Dub can handle it like that, if
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: we're being honest.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think he can handle it. Bennett Sturtz can handle,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: but I think in the NBA, he's going to be
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: a 3 and D guy. I don't think he's going
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: to be a necessarily handle-the-rock type of guy. Jared McCain...
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: isn't a handle the rock type of guy either. You know,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: like he's more of like that free runner. He handled
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: it pretty well. Yeah, but he's not taking the ball
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: up and down the court every single play. You know
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like I think they got enough guys
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: who can handle the rock, but it's not their primary skill.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Like when you look at the San Antonio Spurs, they
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: got three guys whose primary skill is to handle the rock.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: And they got like other guys that could do it
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: as well, but obviously not as good as Dylan Harper,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: De'Aaron Fox, and Stephon Castle. On the other side, SGA
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: is the only real true ball handler on this team.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: I feel like I agree with you on the A.J.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: McClellan. Jerry McCain, I love Jerry McCain, not no more,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: but I love Jerry McCain like that he can do it,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: but he just hasn't done it since like obviously Philadelphia.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: It hasn't been really like fully intertwined in the Oklahoma
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: City system. And I do believe in Mark Dagnon to
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: be able to make adjustments in that way. Yeah, the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: adjustment will happen. But we don't know that yet.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because they are going to go back to that,
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: and they're going to see how all these bodies– because
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: other teams watch that series, and they were like, okay.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: This is how you stop SGA.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: You just throw bodies at them. And he did have
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: a postseason that isn't who he is, for being honest.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: He didn't score as much. And yeah, he was efficient
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: and he did all this, but it's not really up
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: to his standards. So I think they are going to
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: try to figure something out. And I think that's why
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: we gave away Lou Dort, is to thrust Cason Wallace
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: into a role like that. And it's his contract year.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Well, Lou Dort just became a liability at a certain point.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a major liability.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, his offense was... The championship run they had, it was...
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: It was so good.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: He was a lame thrower from a corner three.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: I remember the moon shots, bro. They would go out
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: of frame. Drop right in. But, yeah, I think that's
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: why they ultimately got rid of Dort. Yeah, he was
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: a liability, but also I think it's for the emergence
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: of Case and Wallace and for what he can become.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: And they even asked him, they're like, so what do
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: you think about your contract? He's like, that's between my
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: agent and Sam. Like, I'm just going to play ball,
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: you know? So I think they're well-suited for the season.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: I think that they did well in the draft. They
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: did what they could.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: They did great. They did great in the draft.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I think it's Sam Presti, bro. Like, another offseason with
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Sam Presti. I think that these two teams are my favorites.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: That's Brian Wright, bro.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: It's just these two teams on the list.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Honestly.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't have.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: I have no more hope in the Nuggets. They literally
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: don't have any money.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Like, what are we.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: They have no money. They can't do anything. There's no
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: moves to make. They have no capital.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: The Cronkies are focusing on the Arsenal, bro. The Cronkies
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: are focusing on the Arsenal.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: They really are, bro.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Shout out the Cronkies. But yeah, I just... I don't know.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: I don't see anyone else in the West even coming
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: close to these two. They will be one and two.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: However you want to put it it will be one
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: in two um yeah barring anything insane like yeah boring
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: anything but both these teams could lose their stars which
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: is the crazy part and still be the best teams
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: in the west that that's why we saw just far
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: ahead of yeah multiple times yeah literally for both teams
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: for both yeah exactly we saw it for both teams
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: so i think that these two will be the top
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: two in the west I just don't.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: See anyone else.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: It's one of them that's going to win the championship
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: in my opinion.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: If I had to pick a third, I think for me,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: as much as I hate them, I think I'm going
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: to have to go with the Houston Rockets as of
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Heck, I'd go with the Timberwolves. I'd go Timberwolves.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I think the Timberwolves... How am I going to say this?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I think Fred Van Fleet is going to play a
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: big role. I think Fred Van Fleet is going to
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: be That makes sense because he is.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: So important to that team, and I believe that's why.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: They weren't good last year. We saw it. We saw
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: them trying to try everything to find a point guard
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: on their own team.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: They literally had a man running point. Like, what are
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: we doing? Like, dude, I just don't see them.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I just don't see them doing anything. I'm a big
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Jabari Smith guy. I might be a little, like, too—
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: I'm going Rockets and Timberwolves.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I can't necessarily pick a guy, a person that's going
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: to finish in third.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: I'm picking Timberwolves pretty handily, in my opinion.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: But I just think for me, the losing Nas Reid,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I think you have to force the middle of the
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: ball into the situation. I want to see it first.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I don't understand it.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's not forced, though.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's better for me. You know, I've
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: always been... He can go back to his 2-2 position.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like how whenever there's an elite score, like
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: how I wanted Darren Peterson to go to the... The Pacers,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: because he'd have a guard who's just an otherworldly guard.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: I think this is what... LaMelo will stop having empty
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: stat games, and he'll actually be able to... He's such
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: a good facilitator, and then you'll have a pure scorer
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: at the two. Then you have Rudy Gobert, you have
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Jaden McDaniels, who I think is going to make such
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: a huge leap this season. I think he might be
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: an all-star.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about leaps. Literally, a guy that
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: can leap out the sky, Amin Thompson. I really, truly
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: believed He'll never be a great shooter in the NBA.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: But how much of an offensive impact does he have?
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: But see, this is where the offensive impact is going
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: to matter. Because at the end of the games last season,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: they were struggling because who the hell is going to
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: get the ball? Kevin Durant or Alfred Sangoon?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Alfred Sangoon wants to be the best player in the
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: league one day.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: If Fred Van Fleet's there, that doesn't happen. If Fred
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Van Fleet's there, that doesn't happen last season. He's saying,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: give me the Rock. I'll get it to y'all when
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I can. That's Fred Van Fleet. That's what he would have.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: They were missing their veteran presence. They were missing their
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: point guard. They were missing a three-point shooter. Obviously, not
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the greatest of defenders, but all those other things play
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: big factors in everything that the Rockets were struggling with
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: last year. I'm not saying they're going to compete versus
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: these top two teams, but amongst the rest, I think
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: they can clearly separate themselves, just the addition of Fred
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Van Fleet. And And I think the continued development of
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Amin Thompson and Kevin Durant just getting older, the time
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: is right now for the Houston Rockets. And I think that's,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: for me, the desperation. The Timberwolves have more years with
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards. They have more years with LaMelo Ball. Now,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: if they don't do what they're supposed to do, is
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Chris Finch still there?
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: But if we look at the Houston Rockets, if they
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: don't do nothing, is Ime Udoka still there? That's the
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: question mark.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Just as far as more urgency.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, as for the desperation... Like, I get they're desperate,
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: but what have they done? Like, yeah, they're desperate, but
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: just bring Fred back. Fleet back?
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: But it is a big difference, yeah. Go ahead, Ryan.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: No, I know how big of a difference it is,
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: but I'm saying, like, they're so desperate, but, like, if
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: you're desperate, you're going to make more moves.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: So what moves have they made to show they're that desperate?
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie to you. They haven't made
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: a move. Like, they literally haven't made moves. But I think...
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: They were so exciting last year going into the season.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: For most people, they kept that same group. Like, no
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: one's really gone. And then they were still good last season. Like,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: they still were, like, they were still top four in
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: the Western Conference, I believe. They were still a competing
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: basketball team all the way up to the end. Obviously,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: they did terrible in the playoffs. I hope they did
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: terrible in the playoffs, and they did. I was excited
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: about it. But we look at the Houston Rockets. Like,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I do think forcing so many guys to play point
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: guard was not good for them. Now these guys can
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: go back to their true roles, and Fred Van Fleet
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: can lead this offense the way it was supposed to
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: be led. The defense, I think Steven Adams coming back
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: is going to play a big role as well. People
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: are forgetting that Steven Adams is just this enforcer off
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: the boards. He's coming back. That's going to be very
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: big for them as well.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: I i buy that i see that for sure they're
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: gonna be the three and four seeds in my opinion.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Literally defending the houston rockies is pissing.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Me off yeah i i think i have them i
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: just i'm just believing in anthony edwards and and.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: I think jayden mcdaniel's next to him jonathan coming is
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: a wild card coming is.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: A wild card i don't know what to expect from
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: him to be honest but i do believe that Jaden
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: McDaniels is going to be an all-star this year, and
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: he will make an all-defensive team.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Really? You think he's going to be an all-star?
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to be an all-star, too. The
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: scoring jump that showed flashes last year.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: All right. All right.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: SGA.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Chet. Oh, they don't go by conference. Do they go
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: by conference again?
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: No. No?
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: But the voting's still based off conference.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: All-defense? No, not defense.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Defense.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Defense has no positions, no conference.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Did Ryan say All-Star or All-D? Oh, yeah, All-Star.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to be an All-Star, too. He
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: will make an All-Star.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: You think he's going to be an All-Star?
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I buy that, too. I think he can be
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: the top 15 player in the conference.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Jaden McDaniels. Yes. Yes.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Jaden McDaniels. I'm going to clip this right here.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: So, Jaden McDaniels is going to.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: It's either going to be real good or real bad
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: for us, right?
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: SGA, J-Dub, Chet.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Wimby? Wimby... Fox?
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: No, not Fox. No, not Fox.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: But even then.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: It would be Steph or Harper. It'd be Steph or Harper.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: You think only two of them or.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: All three of them?
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: I think it's two. Because if Dylan Harper's coming off
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: the bench.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's just say six spots are going to the
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Thunder in the Spurs. Okay.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Luka? Or five. Five spots are going to the Thunder
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: in the Spurs.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Luka.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Luka. Luka.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: Jokic.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Jokic.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: KD.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Steph.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Ant.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: KD, Steph, Ant.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: Amin.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Amin. I think Amin has to be above JD McDaniels.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: There's no way that's working out there.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Let me go to... Let me go.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: To the Rocks.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Let me just go to JD.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: You don't think he could make it above a Danny Obdia?
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I think he could make it above Danny.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Do y'all think Cooper Flagg? Oh yeah, he's not making
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: it above Cooper. Cooper Flagg's making an all-star next year.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Whether they're at the top.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Of the standings or not.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Austin Reeves?
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Devin Booker, Austin Reeves.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: You don't have to be like... Because All-Star.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Is so weird. I think the impossibility for him... I
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: think he doesn't even make it over Rudy Gobert.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: I think he's going to be that good, though.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: He's such a defensive force. He's going to be a
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: 20-point-per-game scorer, I think.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, we haven't even talked about it. The Utah
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Jazz might be good this year, too. I was going
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: to say the Jazz, too.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, I had the Jazz, like,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: fifth or sixth. Like, Keontae George.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Like, there's, like, Triple J.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Jaron Jackson Jr. Jaron.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to be, like, a sixth or
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: seventh seed to me. I don't think there's a pathway
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: for Jaden McDaniels to make it. And you've got to
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: take into account fan voting as well.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: What do you mean? They got KD. We got Jaden McDaniels, bro.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Chill.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: Chill. We've seen what Jaden McDaniels can do.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I like Jaden McDaniels, but I just don't see the
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: pathway to being an all-star for him.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: No, I understand that. You don't think LaMelo's able to
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: feed him a lot more? I feel like LaMelo's scoring
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: won't be as high, but.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Ant and J.D.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: If we're already giving five spots to the Spurs and
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: Thunder by themselves, we're going to get three spots to
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: the Timberwolves?
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: I think it'll just be Ant and J.D., honestly.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Over LaMelo? You don't think LaMelo gets into the... If
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: the Timberwolves are third in the conference, you don't think
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: LaMelo's averaging 24-10?
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: He'll make all defense if he can't make all-star.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I can see that. That's a better argument.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: No, but I still think he can be an all-star.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: He's going to be... I'm willing to bet on it.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: I'm willing to bet that he doesn't make the all-star.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to bet you on it. I don't
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: have money. I mean, so he had 15-4-3. You don't
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: think he can make a jump?
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Dude, I just don't see him making the all-star team.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: You don't think if he's like a 25 and 6 guy? 18.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: He won't be 25 and 6, Fonzo. I think in
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: this Western Conference... No, 20, 25.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: I think he's going to be like 17. 20 and 5.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Like 5 rebounds.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Not 25 points, no. 19, 6, and 4.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: I think 17... That's all star numbers.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: 17... five and four like that's what i'm seeing i
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: i think that lamello i don't think lamello and anthony
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: edwards are so ball dominant like i think both of
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: them are going to control the rock at all times
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: that makes sense but lamello gives rock to everyone yeah
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: but i i just don't see a pathway for him
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: and we're not even say albrinson goon allman thompson kd
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: like that's three like i don't think he makes it
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: any over any of.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: Those players Did DeMontis Sabonis make it last year?
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: So last year, the Western Conference starters were Shea, Steph, LeBron, KD, Jokic,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards, AD, James Harden, Jaron Jackson, Albertson Goon, Jalen Williams, Wimby. Wait,
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: why is this show in 2025? Never mind.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: Ignore me.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: And you got to think, De'Aaron Fox only made it
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: because two other guys dropped out last year.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Let me see. You don't think he could be like
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: an injury replacement or anything?
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: But why wouldn't the injury replacements be guys like Drew
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Holiday or like Damian Lillard? Like, why wouldn't it be
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: any of those guys?
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: I think Jaden McDaniels could make it in over like
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: a Dame or Drew.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: We can't hear you, Ryan. You're on mute.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're on mute, right?
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: Sorry. There you go.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: My i was typing are we forgetting about maxine right
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: now too like are we really being serious right.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Now scrap it and scrap it up i forgot bro
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: my bad my bad.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: He's muted again he's he's trying to talk to us
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: but he muted himself bro.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: I'm typing on my other on my other screen and
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: it's muting watch i'm gonna type ready.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: No, bro. You're just lying to us, bro. No, you're
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: just lying.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: Nothing is working right now.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: If you don't want to talk to me, it's fine, bro.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: If you don't want to talk to us, it's fine.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: I'm genuinely backspacing on this monitor and nothing's working. My
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Wi-Fi is booed right now.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, just like, let's just do off the top of
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: the dome. Rank your top eight Western Conference. We already
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: know OKC Thunder and San Antonio.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Spurs are the top two. Okay, you go first.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: I'll say Minnesota... Minnesota, Houston, I say L.A., Denver.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on. Minnesota, Houston, L.A., Denver. Let me go.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Let me pull up the standings too so I can
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: make sure I'm not forgetting. This is off the top
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: of the dome right here. So I got six. Great
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: from the dome. Shout out, Rewire. Yeah, shout out, Rewire.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: We'll do the episode soon, guys. Then I'd probably go.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: Oof.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: I'd probably go Dallas. I expect Dallas to make a
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: big jump this year with another year of Cooper Flag.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Kyrie's healthy. I can see them making a jump. Portland.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: I say Portland. Portland. And then I say Utah. They're
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: playing contention. And then Golden State.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like Golden State's not making it.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: You don't think they could be the 10th?
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll make it. I don't think they'll
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: make it to the season. Dude, Steph.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Steph has to carry so much. Just out of respect
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: for Steph Curry, I'm giving him the 10th seed. Oh,
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: play is different. I'm saying making the playoffs.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: I said 10th seed. I rank 1 through 10. I
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: don't know, bro.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I agree with that whole top 10.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: I agree with that whole top 10 because who would
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: be out?
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: The Kings. Kings, Memphis. Memphis. Clippers.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Clippers.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Clippers. new orleans new orleans that and there's one more
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: team that would be.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: Out phoenix uh yeah phoenix phoenix phoenix making it i
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: think phoenix and the jazz would have that phoenix and
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: the jazz would have that battle.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I would say phoenix and golden state i'd flip phoenix
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: for golden state phoenix for the 10.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: So are we completely out on the nuggets like I am.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Is the window closed?
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: No, Nicole Jokic is too good for the window to
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: be closed. But they will be like a... They'll drop.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: They'll be a 4-5 seed.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: But it could be like a 49ers type of thing.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: The 49ers are going to be good no matter what.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: But are they going to win the championship?
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Come on, guys.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: Don't disrespect the 16th highest scorer of all time.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: That's how desperate they are.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: What did they sign him to? Like something so cheap.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I think it was pretty cheap.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: Dude, they did nothing.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I look at what I have on him going back
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: to the Spurs, if I'm being honest with you. But
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: that would have gave us like another person that can't
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: shoot threes. Yeah.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: Like, bro, their situation is so bad.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: And I think.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: So what?
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: It's going to be Jamal, Christian Braun... They're regretting that
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Cam Johnson.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: And Michael Porter Jr.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Trade, bro, for being honest. So Jamal, Christian Braun, Damar.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Cam Johnson, Nikola Jokic.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: I love Cam Johnson. He's one of my favorite players, but... Oh,
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: we're forgetting about... What's his name? They just re-signed him.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Marvin Bagley.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Duh.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, didn't he? Nuggets legend. Peyton Watson left, right? Yeah,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: he did leave.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Peyton Watson left.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Dude, they're screwed.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was... He was set to be one of
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: their best.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he plays for the Cavs. Oh, my gosh. That's...
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I forgot he got traded to the Cavs.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't match. They didn't match the... The Cavs
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: are winning the East, bro. What are we even talking about?
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: I'm on my Cavs stand.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Nah, I can't trust the Cavs, bro. I can't, bro.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: No, it would... Another year married to Coco Jones? Donovan
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Mitchell's done.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: He's good.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: He just had to watch Let It Shine they were
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: they were watching let it shine now he just he
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: just had to let coco know like i'm here for
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: you baby you know like year one we're together let's
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: go now he's now he's literally he's locked he literally
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: had a quote he was like this is the most
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: i've ever spent with my team in the off season.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah Why don't we don't get his copyright? I don't know.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: I don't even think it's that one. I think it's
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: this one. And he's not that one. Oh, this one.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: This one.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: He wrapped.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Did you think he wrapped the shirt?
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: Shout out D Midge, bro.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: Shout out.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Let it shine. Her voice is in my heart. It's
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: like she never left. It's more than a crush. It's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: more than a like-like. It's more than a love.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm going to make you mine. Except for the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Spurs and the Thunder. Who did you have three?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: You had the Rockets?
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: No, I had Minnesota Rockets. LA and Denver, I could
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: see switching in between five and six. I don't.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: I feel so bad for Luka, bro. Like, dude.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, JJ Redick said this is the most they have,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: the most fit they've had around Luka. But it's not
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: that much of a fate. Colin Sexton?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Like, what? Colin Sexton? I like Colin Sexton, but like, dude.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Quinton Grimes? Quinton Grimes is the answer?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Quinton Grimes.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Shout out Quentin Grimes.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: Shout out.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: I like Quentin Grimes, bro.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: I just don't see it happening, bro. I think Luka
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: is going to have to do so much again.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Luka is going to have to do so much. What
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: was the.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: Price, bro?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: What's the price of his career? I don't know what
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: to think of Luka's career right now.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: Who?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Who is... He's so much better than that, though. He's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: so much better.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying, like, a great.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: No, my thing is, my thing is, like, he's so
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: much better than that.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: Dude, he's stratospheres above this dude.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: Like, I think he'd be, like, mellow on steroids. Who
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: could pass?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: That's so.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: That's such a discount to him.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: You can't do that. That's a discount to Luka Doncic.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: Mellow was... Mellow was almost averaging 30 at.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah luca's been doing that like a better passer or
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: you could say like i don't know or you could
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: say like lesser james hard because he doesn't have an mvp.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: Story arc bro without being traded he's gonna win an
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: mvp in his career he will win yeah he is
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: really within the next two years.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah he's gonna win wimby wimby's yes wimby.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: Or shay wimby shay's gonna be the mvp No, Shea's
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: not going to win another. It's not a turn into
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: Ronaldo and Lionel Messi battling Dior for these guys, bro.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: That's what it's about to turn into.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: Luka is so great. Don't get me wrong. And down
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: the stretch when he was averaging damn near 40, 10
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: and 10. Yes, I get that. But if Wimby actually
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: gets over 30 minutes.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: I think Giannis has a better chance of winning MVP
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: than him this year. Luka was my MVP pick last year, man.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Giannis is in a so much better position.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: Do y'all want to talk about the heat next let's
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: go to the eastern conference.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Okay let's just say with this roster luca is not
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: gonna finish in the top five.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: He'll be five he is gonna finish i'm not.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Saying luca's not luca's gonna be a top five player
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: in the world.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: I'm not talking i know you're not talking about that
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: no like i know i just don't see it five
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Five What happens if Ant takes another leap? Like, you
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: don't think if he's averaging, like, 2.3. But, like, seeding
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: is going to matter whether we like it or not.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I think at least the Timberwolves and Rockets are above them.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: I think so, too.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: I see the Lakers at 5.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Are you putting them above Denver?
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: I think Denver is still better than them. Yeah, I
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: think it's 50-50.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: I have Denver at 6. I don't believe in them.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Denver still has.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Jokic, Aaron Gordon, and Jamal Murray. Like, they still have
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: those three.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: DeMar coming off the bench.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: But they did just, Lakers did get, they got Walker Kessler, right?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Walker Kessler, Mamou.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: My bad, they got Walker Kessler.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: Austin Reeves, Quinton Grimes, Colin Sexton.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: Give him a competent big man to finally play with. Like,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: he played with Derek Lively, look how he made him look.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: Derek Lively, he was getting some crazy talks during that
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Luka run.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: Exactly, that's what I'm saying. I thought Derek Lively was
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: going to be him. I mean, he still could be,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: but he's just not healthy.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: They brought in Cameron Carr, who I think was a really, really.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Really good.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: Jumps out the freaking gym, bro.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the conference.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to– we already talked about this.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I take it all back. I take it all back.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: They got Mamu Scalavelli. I forgot.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you. They got Mamu, bro. Yeah, he's
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: been saying that.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I take it back. They're going fifth.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Come on. They're going fifth.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: They also have Austin Reeves, guys.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: They also have Mamu.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: He's a great golfer, bro.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: They have Mamu. They have Mamu.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Dude, Ronnie James, bro. You guys are just clearly forgetting
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: the next coming– You.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Mean LeBron said his teammate? His former teammate?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: The next coming of LeBron James– They literally have him
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: on the Lakers right now. I don't know what you
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: guys are talking about.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: I think he's going to have more of an impact
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: than people think.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: No, I think so.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: I actually believe in Brownie.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: I believe in Brownie. I think he's going to be
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: an actual good rotational player. No, but yeah, Eastern Conference.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: We just talked about the Sixers and went straight West.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: Or let me hear y'all's prediction for the Eastern Conference,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: like seeding-wise.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, brother.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I don't have a seeding.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Josh, go first.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, I got one.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: I got it.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: I got it. I got it. I got it.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: So first, I got my Cavs, baby. I got the Cavs.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: I've been a Cavs fan since last year. I told
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: everyone the Celtics were not making it. I told these
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: two the Celtics aren't making it.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: And they said, yes, they are.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: Yes, they are.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: I didn't make it much further.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: Who made it further? I said it's either the Cavs
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: or the Knicks. And I said it's not the Celtics.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: But I have the Cavs second. Dude, I don't know
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: what to do with the Pistons. I don't think Jalen
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: Duran is going to go back.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: Wait, you have the Cavs second?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: No, I don't.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, first.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: First.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, Cavs first.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: And then second.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: I have second.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: I'll put the, I don't know, because the Pacers.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: It's tough.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: It's tough.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Pacers. I want to put the Pacers second. I want
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: to put the Pacers second.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: The Pacers have the regular season team. It's going to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: be really good.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: I think Sixers are Shuba, like Zuba, three to five.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: They might go back to having a top three offense
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: in the NBA. They definitely are. They were number one
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: when they went to the championship.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: I'll do the Cavs, the Pacers. I'll throw in. I'll
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: do the Knicks.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: I don't even know because Cat, too.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Then there's Celtics, Miami, Sixers.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Cat's going to play.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: He's just not going to sign a contract. This is
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: genuinely insane because I think the Raptors are going.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: To be good.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: No, they are.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: We haven't even talked about the Raptors, bro. Trayden Kawhi
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Leonard is going to have one of the best defensive
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: teams outside this person.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: You know what? If Kawhi is healthy... The Raptors are
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: going to be the team in the Eastern Conference.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: No, I was going to say earlier before y'all started talking,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: I was going to say Raptors over the Sixers.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: I can see that. I can legitimately see that.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: The Raptors are literally just full of... We're rusty right now.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Definitely Kawhi. Definitely the Raptors are going to be the
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: top team in the West. Raptors are literally.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: No, they won't. But the Raptors are literally just full
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: of baby Kawhis. I'm not even kidding.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: Emmanuel Quigley, RJ Barrett, Jameson Battle, Scotty Barnes, and Kawhi
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Leonard on the same team, by the way.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: Hey, Christian.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: Colin Murray-Boyles on the team, too. Insane defense.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: They just drafted Allen Graves, who is like literally the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: same molded player. He's a 6'8 forward. He can kind
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: of shoot the rock. But dude, I'm so excited for
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: this team.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: Also, let me say this. I know it's kind of like...
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: Sports related, Kawhi Leonard has been moving different ever since
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: that FBI case got on the Clippers. I'm just saying.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: I've never seen more personality come out of him doing that.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: Making jokes. That's a headband, an arm sleeve, bro. Get
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: arm sleeve for a little bit.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: He's been had an arm sleeve.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: That scandal changed him, bro. He only had it for
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: a little bit. That scandal changed him, bro. He's moving
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: different now, so maybe we're going to see Kawhi acting
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: different this year, but I don't know.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: I still got the Cavs winning it, because I think
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: Peyton Watson is such a huge add for them, bro.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: Being able to actually have a forward in there, and
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: I think James Harden is... It's a regular season. It's
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: going to fall out. And then Donovan Mitchell, of course.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: He's one of.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: My favorite players in the league. So I'm going to
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: have Cavs, Pacers.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: I'll have Raptors.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: I'll do.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: The Heat, the.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: Celtics will be five, and then the Knicks are six.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: Wait, no. The Sixers are playing?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: The Sixers.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: I think, no, out of all those teams.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not ranking them. I'm just going to tell you
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: who's not making it.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: The Heat have to be a play in are the
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: Heat a play in.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: With Bam Giannis on the same team.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: Bam Monte you're talking about Andrew.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Wiggins 83 83 this is insane dude out of respect
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: for Bam they're not making a play in bro out
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: of respect for Bam they're not making I.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: Didn't even mention the Pistons and you gotta think that
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: Miami just got Miami he just got the magic the
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: Hawks are we serious Josh Are we serious?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: For the fit of their offense, bro, Klay Thompson fits perfectly.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: Guys, are we really talking about Klay Thompson right now
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: in the Big 26?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: What are we doing? Guys.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: You don't think Klay Thompson could be a good three-point shooter?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: Did we not see what he did last year?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: He hit more side rim than he did net. I'm
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: not even kidding.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: It was lined up, though.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: It was lined up, though.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: You don't think being on a better team is going
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: to lock him, bro? Just get out of a relationship
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: with Megan Thee Stallion, bro. You don't think he's locked in?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: Fonzo would never cheat on Megan Thee Stallion.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: Never.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Never.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: No, guys. What are we doing?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: Klay Thompson is not going to help this team. You're
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: telling me Kashaw Johnson is not going to dance his
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: way to the NBA championship?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: You're telling me Kashaw Johnson.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Let me add it to the list. Zion, Caleb Williams,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Brock Purdy, Jason Tatum, and Klay Thompson are not allowed
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: on the podcast.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Did you put Javante Williams on there?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Javante Williams.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: They did draft Ryan Conwell out of Louisville.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: He's pretty good.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, never mind. They're good guys. They're good.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: Klay Thompson might be all right.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: Forget Klay Thompson. I want to talk about Pele Larson.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: They re-signed him. I was about to say that, but
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that big of a deal
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: since you dogged on Klay Thompson.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: No, it's a big deal that they got that boy,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: Pele Larson, back on contract. I think he's going to
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: be a pretty big impact player for them. I forgot
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: they also got Bobby Portis in that trade.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know how this is going to.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Dude, I just.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: Realized, like, I didn't realize your hatred for Klay Thompson, bro.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: There's no hate.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: I'm a LeBron fan. As a little kid.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: What does Klay Thompson have to do with LeBron?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: What does that got to do with Klay Thompson?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: Dude, he ruined my childhood.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: So you do hate Klay Thompson. So you do hate him.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: People are LeBron fans and they have a separate team.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: I was a LeBron fan and I was on every team.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: I have gear from every freaking team.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: You ain't the 76ers, though.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: Nah i don't yeah he's 42 what do i expect
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: from him i'll probably still buy a jersey i don't
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: care i have gear from everywhere he's been i have
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: a miami heat hat i have a uh.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: A miami heat i think anybody could just buy a
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: hat that doesn't mean oh yeah i got it when.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: It was a finals hat it was a fun okay.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: It was a finals hat okay okay that makes sense.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah my dad got it for me when i was
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: a youngin uh and then i have number six lebron
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: lakers actually are the are the wizards missing Are the
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: Wizards a play-in team?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Are they a play-in team?
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: Trae Young, AD, AJ DeBonsta.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: Orlando? Orlando's missing this year, aren't they? Atlanta?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Atlanta's going to be good.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: They're going to be all right.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: I love, bro, they're literally, when Trae Young was there,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: I always thought that they were just all, like, small
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: variants of him. Like, Jalen Johnson, they, like, all just
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: light-skinned dudes who could hoop.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like Atlanta has a team that, like, you
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: on 2K, I.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: Don't know how to explain it.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: Hey, to be fair, they're the ones that tested the
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: Knicks the most out of all the playoffs last year.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: So something was building last year. I really like the Hawks.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: This is hard to rank, guys. Like, genuinely, I don't
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: know how this is going to go.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: And the Hornets, are the Hornets missing?
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: No, Josh, they're not, sadly. The Hornets are going to
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: be a fun team that scores a lot of points.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: Okay, the teams that are for sure out in the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: East are Brooklyn. Brooklyn's for sure out.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: Milwaukee.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Milwaukee's for sure out. Then after that, I don't know. Orlando?
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: Can we see the Pistons?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: Can we see the Pistons?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: I don't have the Pistons making the playoffs.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: I buy that, especially with the Jalen Dern. Like, bro
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: turned down $ 200 million. I don't know who your agent is.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: To me, it's not even that.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: Even if Jalen Duren's there, I don't think they make
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. Their defense is so good, I don't think
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: it matters. We saw the problem last year in the
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: playoffs when they got there.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: In the playoffs, it doesn't matter.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: They're playing the playoffs every single game in the regular
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: season this year. There's no way you can slip up
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: this season.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: Let me see. Cade Cunningham is that good. I think
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: he's that good.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: He's going to be able to will them to the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: regular season.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, but is everyone else around him?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: When you got rosters surrounding you that are way deeper
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: with better offense and almost as good defenders.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Like, I get you have the top guys in Cade.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: No, they have the best defenders.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: And Asar and Jalen Duren. But if we look at
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: a collective, some of these teams are stacked, bro.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: Like, for sure, Boston, Cleveland.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Indiana.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: Indy.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: Indy, Miami, New York, Philly. That's six right there.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: They did sign a couple of.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: Did they re-sign Dennis Jenkins? I think Dennis Jenkins is
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: good enough. Yeah, they re-signed Dennis Jenkins.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: He's good enough to perform in the regular season. They
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: still have.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: They got John Collins.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, Ron Holland. They brought in John Collins, but
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: John Collins is terrible on defense. They brought in Isaiah Joe.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: They brought in Abuka Akori. They brought in Abuka Akori,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: who is like... He's an insane scorer. He's out of Stanford.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: I think if they make the playoffs, they're going to
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: be a seventh or eighth seed. I don't think they're
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: going to be in the top six.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: I could see that too, but I just don't see
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: them not making the playoffs.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: Their defense is really good in my opinion. Is Orlando.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: But Sean Sweeney, bro, like I feel like first year,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: I think Sean Sweeney is going to get these boys
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: on track, bro.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Sean Sweeney, he might be like a hot take coach
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: of the year. Like if there's a big jump. I
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: could see him making a crazy jump. They got Malachi Branham.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Shout out Malachi Branham, bro. Hey, shout out.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: Shout out. Who do they have? Goga? Don't they have
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Goga Badazzi? Yeah, they do. Shout out to that draft day, bro.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: Their team is... I love their team.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: Bro, they have the legend Kevin Knox, Mr. Fortnite suit himself.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: I think I really... Last year we saw how big
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: of a leap Anthony Black took, and I think it's
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: only gonna rise. But I don't know, dude.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna just list teams I definitively view better than
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: the Pistons this year in the Eastern Conference. Toronto, Philly...
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: New York, Miami. No, we're not going to make it. Indy, Cleveland, Boston.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Wait, with the new rules, would the Bulls even get
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: a top pick? Yeah, they haven't picked in the top five.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: They haven't picked in the top three in a while.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Never mind. Scratch that.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: So it's going to be Bulls not making it, the
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: Nets not making it.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: Bro, we have Josh Giddey, Norman Powell, Caleb Wilson, Matus Bozellas.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: And Nick Paxton, bro. You know what's going to piss
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: me off? You know what's going to piss me off
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: now that we're talking about those weird-ass players like Josh Giddey?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: When Las Vegas comes through and Seattle comes through, the
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Spurs and the Thunder are going to have to give
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: up some big-time players, bro. It's going to.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: Piss me off, bro. But that's just part of it, man.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: But it does suck. Like, I think if we lost play,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: how many of you keep seven?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: I was all for expansion when we sucked.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: But now I'm not for expansion.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Now I'm not for the expansion at all.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: I hope we get rid of Patrick Williams immediately. Bro's
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: the first one out. Bro's the first.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: One out the door, bro. No, knowing y'all, bro, y'all
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: would keep him in Sinlight.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Knowing y'all, they would just send him back. They're like,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: we're not drafting, bro.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: They're like, no, we're good. You could keep him, bro. Well,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: give us a top three pick. Oh, we'll just pick
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: Patrick Williams.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: When will Las Vegas join? Like in 2030 or like immediately? 32,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: I think. Oh, I'm fine with that.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: That's six years.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: By that time, we'll already have six NBA championships. We'll
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: be good. I think the.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: Spurs and Thunder are just going to rattle off championships.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: We'll have 11 championships. That's what I meant for clarification.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: We're going to win six championships in a row. So
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: we're going to have 11 in total is what I'm saying.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: What did the Celtics and the Lakers rivalry look like championship-wise?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: Let me guess. Let me guess. 80 was Lakers.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: Gays.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: 81 was Sixers.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Lakers, Boston.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: Well, you can't... Well, I guess you could because I think....
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not talking about that.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: I was talking to myself.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: Lakers had four championships. Celtics had two. Celtics had at least... No,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: Larry Bird has three chips. So, there's three. Sixers.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Sixers.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: Detroit.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Detroit.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know the exact order, but I think it
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: goes Lakers. I think it goes Lakers, Sixers, Celtics. Lakers, Lakers, Celtics. Lakers, Pistons?
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: If no one else were to win the championship, who
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: do you think it would be? Sixers.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Actually, that's insane. No.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: Other than these two teams, Josh.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought we were talking about the Spurs here. Okay.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: I thought you meant Spurs and Thunder, like if those
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: two teams aren't.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: That's what I.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: Do mean, Alfonso.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say– Sixers. I'm not even joking. The
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: Sixers or the Raptors. I'm so high on the Raptors
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going with the Raptors. I'm going with the Raptors.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: I really like the Raptors. I'm drinking every ounce of
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: that Kool-Aid. Bro, I already finished mine. I finished my Raptors.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Dude, who was I talking to? Some guy was being
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: so nice to me at the barbershop talking about basketball.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: And he was saying, like, I forgot who his team was.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, yeah, we're going to. Oh, the Sixers.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: He was saying, like, he was happy for the Sixers.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, the Sixers would probably be very good.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: They'll lose 4-0 to the Spurs in the NBA championship.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: It'll be all good. And then he was like, he
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: was like, what? I was like, yeah.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: I've only met one Sixers fan in my life.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: You met two now. I'm a LeBron fan. Let's do this.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Some kid had the audacity to sit in the chair
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: across from me. and was talking about, yeah, and they
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: asked him, like, did you watch the NBA championship? This
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: happened today, actually. Did you watch the NBA championship, blah, blah, blah?
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: And I heard him, and he was like, no, when
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Golden State didn't make it, I just didn't watch the
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: finals because there was no one good in it.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: Oh, boy.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, boy. I went off on that kid. I went
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: off on that kid.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, kid.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: Taylor Brunson, ethical hoops.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: You know that smirk you give somebody when you know
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: you're losing an argument? That's what he was giving me. Like,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: he was just like, damn, I chose the wrong kid.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: Josh wasted his breath on that kid.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: For real. Padres won. It makes me.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: Cringe whenever people talk about sports and they don't. I
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: was telling Eva that, like, whenever I hear people talking
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: about sports, like, in class or something.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: I was telling Brisa about that. I was like, oh,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: same thing.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: Like, it makes me cringe so bad. Like, they'll be like,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: they'll say something and I'll just be listening. I'll just
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: be like this, like, gritty my teeth because it makes
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: me cringe so bad.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: You know that, bro, bro, I was watching, I was
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: watching the, at Breece, okay, at Breece's house, like her,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: her dad and brothers, like they watch sports, but they
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: don't like watch sports. They don't, they don't watch sports. Like,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: you know, the play where Antonio Williams threw the ball
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: to scary Terry.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: And scary Terry didn't catch it. They blamed it on
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: scary Terry. What?
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: That was a bad throw, though.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: And I walked to Brees' room. I was like, I'm
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: not watching it with him.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Dude, I told Josh this, Ryan, the other day. My
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: dad was just, like, doing so terrible with, like, QB
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: rankings and, like, not addressing quarterbacks correctly. Like, I told Josh.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: I got rage baited by my dad. He had me caping.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: He had me caping for CJ Stroud. Out of all
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: the quarterbacks, bro, he had me caping for him, bro. No,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: I know exactly what you mean.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: I struggle with that, bro, whenever people do that. I just, like,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: try not to get mad.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It just makes me cringe, bro, especially when, like,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: they don't know what they're talking about. I heard a
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: kid talking about fantasy.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, dude, stop, please.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: I know. I know, but all right.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: All right, so give just– if you– you have to
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: rank it as far as your top seed– Okay, I'll
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: rank it.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: I'll redo.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: All right. So Cavs, one.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: Pacers, two. Raptors, three.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Sixers, four.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: Celtics, five. Okay, no. Celtics, four. Sixers, five.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: Knicks, six.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Heat, seven.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: Pistons, eight.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: Magic, Atlanta?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: No, Atlanta 9, Magic 10. I agree with the same 10.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: I think Sixers will be 4. I'm just not that
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: high on Sixers, guys. Boston 6.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: I think, honestly, Cleveland, as our regular season team, I'm
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: going number 1.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: I think Cleveland will be number 1.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: I think so, too.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: Regular season. Playoffs is different. They want to hop on
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: the trend now, bro. No, I'm not hopping on the trend.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: But I think that the regular season, they're always at
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: the top. Like, I'm going to go Cleveland.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm going to go Indiana, number two. Like, I
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: think Indiana can definitely be a top seed. I'm going
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: to go Boston. I'm going Boston, three. Then the Raptors,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: because I think Kawhi won't play a full season. Like, definitely.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: I think that they're going to do just enough to,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: I think, them then i'll go 76ers i'll go freak
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: i didn't even say new york yet holy um.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: Crap i think i buy it i buy i buy
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: new york being a lower seat because they just won
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: the championship and them being like We're not going to
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: be as much foot on the gas.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: They're also going to contract disputes as well. Like, Miles
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: McBride as well. They just lost Mitch Robb.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll probably go New York 6th then. I'm going
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: to go Miami 7th. Then this is where it gets tougher,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like. Because they got these final three spots.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: I think it consists of Orlando, Detroit, and Atlanta.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: 8 Pistons, 9.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Pistons 8th, 9th. Orlando or Atlanta for 9-10. I
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: think the Hornets miss.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: Dude, we're just completely forgetting Washington. I feel like they
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: could be a sleeper team. Dude, I know, but my
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: thing is I don't trust AD and Trey Young to
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: be healthy. No, Trey Young and AD, no, bro. But
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: if they're healthy, like, just hypothetically, they're healthy.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: Alexander Sarr, I can see it, bro. I know it.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to say to you right now, though.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're going to make the playoffs. But, like,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: I can easily see the Wizards. It's like, oh, they're 7-7.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: I buy that. 7 to me. 7.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Keyshawn George, Trey Young, Anthony Davis, Alexander Sarr, Bub Carrington.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: AJ DeBonstad.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: A.J. DeBonce is on the– oh, wait, yeah, is it?
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: Never mind. Yeah. No?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, A.J. DeBonce is on Washington.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: Darren Peterson is on Utah.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Darren Peterson is on Utah, yeah.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: I wish he went to the Pacers, bro.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: Dude, that would have been so nice. I have him
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: in Dynasty. You do? I got Dylan Harper in Dynasty.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: We deleted the league. Another Dynasty.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: I wish I had to delete the league. People weren't committing. Well,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: we're going to redraft. Fonzo, do you want to join
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: the redraft?
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: I'm down.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. We could give updates. You better, boy. I really
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't giving you an option.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: Put me on spot on the pod.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. You know what?
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: Okay. Or we just need to give our award predictions,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: but I'm going to go ahead and find a game
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: for us that we could play.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: I think we can just speed through it. We don't
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: have to really.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: We've talked a lot about all these players already.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Okay. MVP, Wimby.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: Shay.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: Wimby.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: Two out of three says Wimby. They won't let Shea
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: win another one.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Wimby.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: Wimby.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: Wimby.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, rookie of the year. I'm going Cameron Boozer.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: I was going to say Cameron Boozer, yeah.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: I say just because he's going to get the most
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: play time on the worst team and he's going to
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: put up some insane stats.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: Six men of the year.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: I think Dylan.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: Dylan or AJ. Dylan or AJ.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: AJ Mitchell. It's AJ. If he's coming off the bench,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Dylan Harper... But if not, A.J. Mitchell. I'm going with A.J. Mitchell.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: A.J.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: Would have won it last year, in my opinion, if
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: he was healthy.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: Most improved.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't even think about this one.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: Brandon Miller?
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Brandon Miller can't be most improved. He was a top
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: three pick, bro.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: Dude, you know the criteria already. They gave Cade Cunningham,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: John Morant. They give all the top picks. They give
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: them all. most improved player of the year. I'm just
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: going off the criteria.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: He averaged over 20 last season.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: You don't think he could, you don't think, I'm not
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: saying it's going to be like, like an efficient 25,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: but you don't think just because there's, he's going to
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: be the number one guy. He can't average like 25.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: Like an unethical 25.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: When I last year, Jalen John, no, no.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: Did not win it last year.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: No, I think it's.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: My guy, bro.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: It's my Canadian brother.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: Freak, bro.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: I want his Canada jersey. Let me see. Most improved
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: player odds. See, it's Dylan Harper, Brandon Miller, Peyton Pritchard,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: Amin Thompson, Matas Buzelis, Daniel Atiyah.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: Dylan Harper can't win no most improved player.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: This is just an odds. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: This award is so stupid.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: You know what? Matas Buzelis, most improved player of the year.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: Let's do this, baby.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: I take that answer more than any of these answers,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: Tyson Daniels. Yeah, I forgot his name. Tyson Daniels, one
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: of the most improved players, even though he's been... a
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: good player. Coach of the year.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going with Mitch Johnson.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: Did Mitch win it last year?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: No, he got second.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: Dude, I had to tell this dude.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: To take a stand for Mitch. He wanted to take,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: what's his name?
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: Joe Mazzulla. No, it wasn't Joe Mazzulla. Oh, Josh Giddey's
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: up there. Steph Castle.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: Why would Steph Castle win it?
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: That makes no sense. How is Josh Giddey up there?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: I mean....
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Will Hardy, actually, might win Coach of the Year if
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: they make the playoff. You think? I mean, we all
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: agree they could.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: But, like, being that low of a seed, like, you
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: don't think.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: Or Sean Sweeney.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Sean... But, again, they're low seeds.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the Jazz make more sense
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: if they were. Because Magic have been in the playoffs
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: multiple times. No, bro.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: It's just going to be J.J. Redick because of what
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: Luka does with Walker Kessler.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: I can't give a most improved player, guys. I'm not
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: going to lie to you. I don't really.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: I'm going to do Colin Murray-Boyles.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm going to do. That's a good one.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: I love Colin Murray-Boyles.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: That's a good one.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: The way y'all are talking about him, why wouldn't it
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: be Jada McDaniels? Oh, yeah, true.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: Jada McDaniels. Dude.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, give me Jada McDaniels. Y'all got KD. We got
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: Jada McDaniels, bro, if you know you know. Yeah, I'll
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: pick Jada McDaniels. Yeah. Which one's this one?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Spin and pin. Give me Nikola Jokic.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: What is spin and pin?
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: By the way, guys, I've never played this game before.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: Jokic's MVPs are over.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: He'll never have one again.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: Shea will probably get one more MVP in his career.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: You don't think Alexander Saar could win most improved player? Nah.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: Nah, he could.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: Josh loves Alexander Saar.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: I just love all my French guys, you know?
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: If I could pick Maxine right now for this, I would,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: but they're going to suck too much. He loves Ousmane Dembélé.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Guess the player.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not a big French soccer guy.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: I'm a big.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: I want a Roberto Moura jersey.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: You guys name a random player. Name a random player.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: This is guess the player.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: It's like.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: Jaden McDaniels.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: Is it current? Yeah, it's current.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Does that help us out?
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: No, it didn't help us. It didn't help us out
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: Click one of them.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: We only get three guesses, bruh. Yeah, okay. Should we
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: guess rookie or should we... Which one? Out of all
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: of these.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: Just redo the whole thing. Because we wasted a guess.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, mystery player. That was our second surprise.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: So we could X on.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: So we could guess... So we would minus five.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: Rookie?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. Hold on.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: Don't do rookie. Position, age, conference, weight, height.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: I would do division. I'm bad with divisions. I don't
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: know divisions like that, to be honest with you. Me either.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: What about position? Age.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 4: Age?
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: Y'all good with age?
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: Position.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: Position.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: Position.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: Why don't we do three-point percentage? That is so.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: Nasty, bro. You know how many... Or points per game?
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: What was the position? No, I haven't done.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you pressed it.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: Shooting guard. Shooting guard.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: It's going to be Devin Booker.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would guess Devin Booker. Devin Booker.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: Or Donovan Mitchell.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: I don't get this. Let's do points. It's because we
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: use these clues, right? We have one out of ten clues.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: The less clues we use, the more points we get.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: I'm down to Duke.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: Division. I don't know divisions.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, just do conference. Conference?
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess conference.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: Western Conference. Shooting guard. We don't even know if it's
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: the starter.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: True.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: Just guessing. Cedric Coward. Cedric Coward, bro. Ill Cedric Coward.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: I have Memphis making it.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: I forgot Cedric Coward is on the Grizzlies.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, is this only one thing?
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: Him and Cam Boozer are going to be completely cracked together.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: This is boring. Him and Cam Boozer. Let's go to
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: this one. Shout out LeBaron Phylon, too. Any specific game
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: you want to play?
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: Dude, Kalen Clark and to survive elimination, 27.7 rebounds, 15 assists.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness. Against the Aces? Oh, this is a
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: good one.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: What's this?
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: Daily Trivia. We have to guess this player right here.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: Played for Minnesota, three-time All-Star. This is Mike Conley.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: Mike Conley only has one All-Star. I think he only
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: has zero All-Stars.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: Mike Conley doesn't have a single All-Star? Mm-hmm. He doesn't
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: have three All-Stars, Fonzo.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: I would say Marc Gasol.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: Played with Memphis? Or not Memphis, Minnesota. Minnesota.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, Minnesota.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know why I was thinking Memphis. Because I
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: said Mike Conley. Would it just be Ant?
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: He might have been three times. Would it just be Ant?
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: No, he's had to make the All-Star more times.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: No. I don't think so. When did he get drafted?
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: 2020.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's for sure at three. Let's go with.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: Jaden McDaniels.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: Joe Ingles. Oh, he never made three All-Stars.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: I'm going to just guess Anthony Edwards. No, it wasn't
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: Played for Denver, one-time MVP. Oh, this is deep in
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: the bag.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: Allen Iverson.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: Allen Iverson.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: It was AI. Played for Cleveland, four-time All-Star. Larry Nance, senior.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: Do you want me to put Larry Nance? No. Four-time All-Star,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: played for Cleveland. Derek Rose. Did Derek Rose make more
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: than four All-Stars? I don't know why I'm asking you
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: guys this. I should know this.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: Is he lagging to you, Josh?
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: He's like, wow.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: Am I that bad?
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: Maybe because I'm sharing my screen.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: I think it might be your cord. It might be
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: your cord, Boral.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: Boral?
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: It's like, when you talk, it speeds up for me.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: You're in 2x speed, brother.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: I'm just talking fast.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: You're so silly.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: Hmm. I'm a guest therapist.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: He's got the notey show called... Four-time defense player of
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: the year.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: That's Rudy, bro.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: Bro, Rudy.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: That was so free.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: We're idiots.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: One-ring. One-ring four-time All-Star played for Cleveland.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: J.R. Smith.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: Kevin Love? Was he more than a four-time All-Star?
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: I was going to say Kevin Love, but I feel
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: like he made it more times. I mean, you can
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: try it.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: Kevin Love.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: Kevin Love. Kevin Love. No. Kevin, I'm in love. Two-time
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: All-NBA 13.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: Two-time All-NBA 13. Has Kyrie made more than four All-Stars? Yeah, huh?
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: Had to have. But just try.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: But did he win it with the Cavs?
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: 2016. Did he win the ring with the Cavs? Yeah.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, did this person win the ring with
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: the Cavs?
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: Last played in 2015. No, I'm saying like fifth person
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: that we're trying to guess. Oh, last.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: Played in 2015. Oh, bald guy.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: The bald guy on NBA TV. Oh my, or not
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: NBA TV. Oh my gosh, what's his name? He commentates.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: He commentates.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Charles Barkley?
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no. Richard Jefferson. Richard Jefferson.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: Tim McMahon.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, Richard Jefferson, yeah. No way, he didn't last play
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: in 2015. No, he played later.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: He played later.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: He played later.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: Mm-mm.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: No, I think he retired.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: No, he didn't.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: Right after.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: Because he played, no, he played.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: Whenever they played KD. He played next year against a KD, yeah.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: James Jones.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they, oh, I guess you're right. No, James Jones has, what,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: four rings?
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, three, three. I think he has three. Because Miami
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: and then Cleveland, he was one ring, four-time All-Star.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: Wait, he didn't even win a ring with Cleveland.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, he didn't. Wait, no. 2015, 2016? Would it be 15-16?
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: They won in... I don't know. I just know they
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: didn't win it. and they didn't win it. Maybe. Is
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: that what that means?
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: I feel like we're overanalyzing that. That's what I'm thinking. Like,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: playing 2015-16? Or, I don't know.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: Who's on that roster?
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: Um... Deleva Dova, Kyrie, Amon Shumpert, J.R. Smith.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: Timothy Moskov.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Timothy Moskov.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: J.R.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: Smith, bro. He didn't last play in 2015.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: J.R.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: Smith didn't.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: He played in the bubble. He's a freaking dog.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: J.R.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: Smith.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: Not Amon Shumpert. J.R. Smith, if you're listening to this podcast.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: Shumpert didn't make three All-Stars. Yeah, Shumpert didn't make four All-Stars.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: No, Tristan Thompson played with the Bulls two years ago.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: And he definitely wasn't a two-time All-NBA 13.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: He played with Cleveland last year.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I don't know why I thought of
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: him first on the Bulls, Tristan Thompson. Don't ask me why.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: Last played in 2015.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: Should we just throw out a guess and just try
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: to get the last hint, see if the last hint
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: helps us?
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: Mediocre analysis. Dude, I don't even know.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 4: I can't believe we didn't get this.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: I want to redo this.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: This is crap. I'm going to just put him on Shepard.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: One-time All-Rookie Second Team. That did not help out at all.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: Dwayne Wade. I don't know. Last played in 2015.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 4: It's going to be so easy, bro.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: He played in 2015. The last time he played was
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: in 2015. I just can't remember the roster. Is this
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: Darren Williams? Is this Darren? No, Darren Williams.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: No, no. Don't say he has two rings. He has
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: two rings. Yeah, okay. Kyle Korver? Oh, it might be
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Kyle Korver.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: No. Who was it? Does it not show? We have
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: one last guess. Played for Cleveland, four-time All-Star, one ring,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: two-time All-NBA third team, last played in 2015, second team All-Rookie.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: So he last played in 2015. So he had to
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: have somewhat of a career. So 2000s, that's when he was. Man.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: 2015.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: I can't remember.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 4: I can't think of that roster, but I can't. I know.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: It's going to be somebody deep on the bench, bro.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: No, it's not.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: So, the starting lineup is going to be Kyrie, Amon, JR, LeBron,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: Tristan Thompson, Richard Jefferson, Matthew Delevedova. That's seven.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: Did George Hill win it with the.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: Timothy Mozgov?
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: George Hill.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: George Hill.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: Timothy Mozgov wasn't a four-time All-Star. Was it George Hill?
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: George Hill, no.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the sixth time, I bet.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: Who is this guy? Oh, my goodness. I am stumped. Dude,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be so mad when we get this. Unless, like,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: this is just, like, deep out of the bag. Um....
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: I'm willing to give up, to be honest. Jeff Green!
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: No, Jeff Green didn't make it.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: No, he's still playing to this day. He's playing right now.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: Shout out, Jeff Green.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: Dude, Jeff Green's been around for a minute.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, bro.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: Is it Kendrick Perkins? Did he make the All-Star game?
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: Is it not going to tell us who this was?
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: Did it give you a reveal?
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: No way, bro. I'm going to look it up. Hold on, wait.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: Four-time NBA All-Star. Last played in 2015.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: Cavs.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: Sean Marion?
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: What? What?
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: Dang.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: I didn't even know Sean Marion was.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know he was.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: I didn't even know it was going to be easy.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like that's easy for the.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: See, it was 2014-2015, so he never won a ring
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: with the Cavs. We were thinking of the Cavs championship.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't know Sean Marion played 2014-2015. Okay.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: Not that easy. Oh, we can't play trivia.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: No more, then we go to bed.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: We can't play trivia. That's dumb.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: Um.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Pathway Road to Ring.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: Do that same one.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: No, we can't. It's dumb. It's not going to let us.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: It's only a one-time thing. Yeah, it's a one-time thing.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 4: Do one hoop grid. Just do a hoop grid.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: How about that?
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: No, that would take too long. Hoop grid?
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. Let's do Start Bench Cut. Y'all good
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: with that?
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah let's do a star binge cut.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: Ray Allen Jimmy Butler.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: Mello Jimmy Butler Mello so this is all primes.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 4: Cut Mello cut Ray Allen and I'm.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: Starting Jimmy Butler I'm starting Jimmy Butler.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: I'm starting Jimmy Butler I feel like we're just easily
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: forgetting Ray Allen on the supersonics bro is a demon
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: was in a bunch of Eastern Conference finals.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: But which Ray Allen is this? Which Ray Allen are
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: we getting?
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm assuming this is Supersonics. This is, or not Supersonics, Milwaukee.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: That's Milwaukee.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't mean Supersonics.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 4: Give me the dude who willed his team to the
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 4: NBA finals against the GOAT, bro. Who had him posted
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: up like this?
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: Give me him. Melo will post anybody up. Oh, my gosh.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: I feel like we could cut Ray Allen, but, like, man, oh,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: my gosh. That's crazy to cut Ray Allen.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: I'm taking Jimmy Butler. I'm taking Jimmy Butler.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: I'm benching Jimmy Butler and starting Carmelo.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 4: Now it's your pick, Fonzo.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler. We're talking playoff Jimmy Butler.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: Better IQ.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: But, like, regular season does matter, too, and Melo was
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: a demon, bro. He could score... He's a scorer in
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: a telephone box, bro.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Mello, you got to think. Allen Iverson screwed
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: up for him in the playoffs.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: J.R. Smith was the second best player, bro.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: Bro just played against LeBron. Bro just played against LeBron.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler never had to play against LeBron in the
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: Eastern Conference.
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  Speaker 3: He did play against Giannis.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: And Boston.
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  Speaker 4: And Boston.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: And Boston with Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, and Jimmy Butler played against freaking... The new generation
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: of the Celtics. And owned them.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: He played against Kyrie Irving. And the young Boston Celtics. Nah,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: don't count it. Don't count it.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 4: Yes, it does. Tatum was not young.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: This was like right before he lost. Nah, don't count it.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: I don't count it.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: Rage bait is crazy. Jimmy Butler. He's not rage baiting me.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: He knows I'm right. Give me Jimmy Butler.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: I think Carmelo's the better player. I think he's the
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: best player of the three.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: I think Melo's the better player. I'm going to have
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: to start him here. You got overruled here, Ry. Why
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: doesn't it let me click it?
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: Bunch of old heads over here.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: You don't know nothing about Prime Melo. See, most people,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: they would have started Melo. They would have started Melo.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: Cut Jimmy Butler.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they would have cut Jimmy Butler. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: Mine was 19%. Ray Allen is crazy, bro.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler is one of the best basketball minds to
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: ever grace the game, dude.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: Ray Allen stats.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 4: Y'all ain't hearing me, though. Y'all ain't hearing me, though.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: Where's his points at, bro? Like, bro was a demon.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: Where's basketball reference? Okay. Well, I pull up this. Name
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: y'all so-called MVPs. I know it's NBA season hasn't started,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 3: but Name y'all's so-called MVPs.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: So....
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: Ben Rice.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: Hey, we got to do the... We never did the
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: predictions on the fantasy, on the football. I know.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 4: I was going to say that.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: On football? What do you mean? Pick'ems.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: We never did our predictions.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: Well, we could fill them out. We could fill them
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: out for tomorrow. Or y'all want to do them right now?
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not doing them right now. I'll probably do
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: it tomorrow during the day.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah. That's fine.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: So-called... of the week for me is going to be
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: Matisse Albert I'm gonna yeah mine's gonna be um Giovanni Reina.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah Giovanni Reina bro if he can reach his potential.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: Daylon Swain, bro. Daylon Swain, bro. Shout out my Bulls legend, bro.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite players, too, coming out of
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: the draft. Texas demon, bro. Texas demon.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 4: Y'all can go back to messages from like a year
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 4: ago talking about Daylon Swain.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: Yo, bro. Let's wrap this up. I'm dying right now.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: Mine is Ben Rice. Shout out Ben Rice, bro. All right.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: We'll see you guys. Next time, before we get out
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: of here, find us on Twitch, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, TSCSA,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: so-called sports analysts. What's up, Josh?
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, shout out Danny Manning.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: You know what? Shout out Danny Manning, baby.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: Shout him out.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: We'll see you guys soon. You guys take care. Shout
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: out Danny Manning.