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Rex Heuermann pleaded guilty to killing 7 women, admits to killing eighth · The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories

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  Speaker 1: It is a case that has haunted the public for
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  Speaker 1: more than thirteen years, and many feared that the Gilgo
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  Speaker 1: Beach murders may never be solved.
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  Speaker 2: The officer located a body.
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  Speaker 3: That seemed to be wrapped in burlap, which didn't make
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  Speaker 3: any sense. The crime scene gets expanded. I'm called and
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  Speaker 3: a chief. We found another set of remains. They find
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  Speaker 3: another one and another one. We were dealing with a
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  Speaker 3: serial killer. They're available, They're vulnerable and very petite.
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  Speaker 4: This killer has a type, right.
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  Speaker 3: Does he want the petite body because he wants to
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  Speaker 3: feel more empowered and more in control.
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  Speaker 5: I want the world to know, like my sister mattered,
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  Speaker 5: I want answers.
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  Speaker 6: It's just my answers.
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  Speaker 1: And arrest more than a decade in the making in
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  Speaker 1: a serial killer case that's baffled law enforcement and the public.
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  Speaker 1: Fifty nine year old Rex Huerman pled not guilty.
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  Speaker 6: I got my phone. I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 7: So just who is Rex Huerman? An ARCHITECTU ran a
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  Speaker 7: company called rh Consultants and Associates.
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  Speaker 8: Rex Hello, how do you do it at the CEO?
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  Speaker 8: When a job that should have been routine suddenly becomes
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  Speaker 8: not routine? I get the phone call.
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  Speaker 9: Rex Hureman is a mystery man. Rex is capable of
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  Speaker 9: presenting himself one way to one person, one way to
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  Speaker 9: another person.
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  Speaker 10: My first memory of Rex was that he was very big, imposing, scary, angry.
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  Speaker 10: He was bullied. He was bigger than everyone else. The
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  Speaker 10: kids would gang up on him. And Rex was very
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  Speaker 10: smart too.
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  Speaker 11: He's a smart person, very smart.
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  Speaker 4: He liked to shock people.
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  Speaker 9: He was interested in power games. Rex loved hunting and
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  Speaker 9: he loved guns.
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  Speaker 6: Going out shooting hunting. That was his passion.
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  Speaker 4: All petite, all bound in burlap bags.
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  Speaker 9: The burlap on the bodies, that's points right at a hunter.
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  Speaker 1: It was DNA collected from a pizza slice he tossed
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  Speaker 1: in a Manhattan trash can that came back as a
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  Speaker 1: match with hair found on the victims.
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  Speaker 12: That's where we obtained his full profile from the pizza
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  Speaker 12: cross left in the box.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of speaking to my client, the only thing
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you that he did say as he
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  Speaker 2: was in tears was I didn't do this.
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  Speaker 9: Everyone's just trying to put the pieces together. I want
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  Speaker 9: to know what I missed. I think we all want
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  Speaker 9: to know what we missed.
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  Speaker 13: Not far from this quiet stretch of Gilgo Beach on
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  Speaker 13: Long Island, New York, investigators uncovered the hidden remains of
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  Speaker 13: four young women. The mystery of who they were and
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  Speaker 13: how they got here might have stayed a secret if
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  Speaker 13: not for a woman named Shannon Gilbert Bert.
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  Speaker 4: In the early morning.
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  Speaker 13: Hours of May first, twenty ten, twenty three year old Shannon,
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  Speaker 13: working as an escort, called nine one one say.
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  Speaker 4: Please, yeah, there's one of the as. The call came
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  Speaker 4: from a neighborhood not far from Gilgo Beach. These people.
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  Speaker 13: Shannon starts running, knocking on doors.
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  Speaker 4: Where are you Shannon.
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  Speaker 13: She screams, and then nothing. Shannon was gone.
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  Speaker 7: Hello, oh Canaine search the area exhaustively for shadow.
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  Speaker 13: Dominic Varone was chief of Detectives at the Suffolk County
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  Speaker 13: Police Department. Months passed without a sign of the missing woman,
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  Speaker 13: and then, in December twenty ten, near Gilgo Beach, a
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  Speaker 13: police officer and his CAN nine named Blue found human remains.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone assumed it was Shannon Gilbert.
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  Speaker 4: But it wasn't Shannon.
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  Speaker 13: Stun Searchers would go on to discover the remains of
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  Speaker 13: four other women. The women were identified as Maureading, Brainer Barnes,
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  Speaker 13: Melissa Barthelemy Megan Waterman and Amber Costello. Like Shannon, all
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  Speaker 13: were in their twenties, all were online.
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  Speaker 4: Escorts, all petite.
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  Speaker 13: Three of the four were wrapped in burlap, the kind
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  Speaker 13: you can find in hunting stores. They became known as
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  Speaker 13: the Gilgo Four.
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  Speaker 6: It's really really hard because I miss.
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  Speaker 4: Her so much.
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  Speaker 13: Forty eight Hours has reported on this case since twenty ten.
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  Speaker 13: Over the years, we've secured exclusive interviews with the family
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  Speaker 13: and friends of the Gilgo Four.
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  Speaker 4: Missy can.
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  Speaker 13: We'll never forget the wintry day when she got the
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  Speaker 13: devastating news.
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  Speaker 14: The detectives came to my house and just said that
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  Speaker 14: Maureene has been positively identified as one of the victims
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  Speaker 14: on Ocean Parkway.
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  Speaker 13: Her sister, Maureen brainer Barnes, a mother of two, was
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  Speaker 13: the first to disappear on July ninth, two thousand and seven.
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  Speaker 6: She was very smart and very creative.
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  Speaker 4: She liked being a mom. She loved being a mom,
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  Speaker 4: but life is a.
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  Speaker 13: Single mom living in Norwich, Connecticut was difficult. Missy didn't
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  Speaker 13: know it, but Maureene had turned to escort work and
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  Speaker 13: that July went to New York City for a weekend
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  Speaker 13: to make money. On her way home, she called Missy
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  Speaker 13: from Penn Station in Midtown Manhattan.
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  Speaker 4: I could hear the motions from the train station from
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  Speaker 4: the time that she called me.
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  Speaker 6: It was poof, she was gone.
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  Speaker 13: She reported Maureen missing. Eventually, officers would tell Missy that
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  Speaker 13: after her sister's disappearance, someone had used Maureene's cell phone
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  Speaker 13: to make a call from Long Island. It wasn't known then,
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  Speaker 13: but those two locations, Long Island and Midtown Manhattan would
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  Speaker 13: become important clues in the hunt.
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  Speaker 4: For a serial killer.
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  Speaker 13: Nearly two years to the day that Maureen vanished, twenty
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  Speaker 13: four year old Melissa Barthelmy went missing in July two
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  Speaker 13: thousand and nine, also from Midtown Manhattan. Lynn Bartholomy is
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  Speaker 13: Melissa's mother.
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  Speaker 4: How often do you think about Melissa?
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  Speaker 15: Every single minute of the day. It just didn't happen
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  Speaker 15: to the girls. I mean, it destroyed all of our families.
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  Speaker 13: Melissa moved from Buffalo to New York City to work
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  Speaker 13: as a hairdresser. At some point, she also began working
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  Speaker 13: as an escort and then disappeared. About a week after
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  Speaker 13: she went missing, Melissa's then fifteen year old sister, Amanda,
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  Speaker 13: started getting calls from Melissa's phone we agreed not to
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  Speaker 13: show Amanda's face.
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  Speaker 16: Chanswers, you know, Melissa, where have you been? And this
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  Speaker 16: voice is saying, oh, this isn't Melissa.
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  Speaker 13: Stephen Cohen was a family's lawyer at the time.
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  Speaker 16: He was taunting Amanda and he said, do you know
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  Speaker 16: what I did to your sister? I killed Melissa.
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  Speaker 15: All I can say is he's sick and he's going
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  Speaker 15: to make a mistake and we're going to catch him.
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  Speaker 13: Those calls from Melissa's own phone may very well have
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  Speaker 13: been that mistake. When police trace them, the calls place
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  Speaker 13: the person they believe to be Melissa's killer in midtown Manhattan.
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  Speaker 13: The following year, Megan Waterman, the mother of a three
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  Speaker 13: year old girl, disappeared from a hotel on Long Island.
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  Speaker 5: Part of you is like missing. It's just like something's
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  Speaker 5: always off.
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  Speaker 4: We spoke with Meghan's daughter, Liliana in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 5: I would do anything to bring her back, but I can't,
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  Speaker 5: and it just like frustrates me so bad.
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  Speaker 13: Meghan's family says the twenty two year old was a
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  Speaker 13: creative but troubled young woman who loved fashion and was
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  Speaker 13: devoted to her daughter.
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  Speaker 4: What would you say to your mom.
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  Speaker 6: If you could, I.
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  Speaker 5: Would just want to tell her that, like I love her,
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  Speaker 5: I just want her to know she has a special
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  Speaker 5: place in my heart and one can ever replace her.
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  Speaker 13: Like the other two women, Megan disappeared in the summer
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  Speaker 13: on June sixth, twenty ten. She was working as an
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  Speaker 13: escort on Long Island.
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  Speaker 5: No matter what her job was, she was a person
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  Speaker 5: and she needs justice.
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  Speaker 13: This haunting video from a holiday in Express is the
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  Speaker 13: last time she was seen alive, moments before she went
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  Speaker 13: to meet a client. Cell Phone records later placed her
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  Speaker 13: phone in a Long Island neighborhood called Massapequa Park. Amber
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  Speaker 13: Costella was the last of the Gilgo four to disappear.
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  Speaker 13: She lived here, just seven and a half miles from
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  Speaker 13: Massapequa Park.
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  Speaker 17: She used to say she was four or eleven, but
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  Speaker 17: she wasn't. She was like four nine, you know, I
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  Speaker 17: mean she was small.
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  Speaker 13: Amber's friend and former roommate, Dave Shaller, spoke with us
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  Speaker 13: in twenty eleven.
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  Speaker 17: She was an amazing person, she really was, He says.
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  Speaker 13: Amber was addicted to drugs and used sex work to
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  Speaker 13: support her habit.
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  Speaker 17: But as amazing as she was, was as tormented as
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  Speaker 17: she was.
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  Speaker 13: After Amber disappeared. Police say Shaller told them about her clients.
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  Speaker 13: He described one of them as looking like an ogre
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  Speaker 13: and having a first generation Chevrolet Avalanche. On the night
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  Speaker 13: she went missing, Shaller says a client offered Amber fifteen
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  Speaker 13: hundred dollars for the night, six times her hourly rate.
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  Speaker 17: This guy was so relentless. He called several times. He
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  Speaker 17: was on the phone with her for quite a while.
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  Speaker 13: Each time, he says, the client got Amber an experienced escort,
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  Speaker 13: to do something she never did, leave without her purse
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  Speaker 13: or cell phone and meet him in his car.
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  Speaker 17: I walked out the front door with her. She gave
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  Speaker 17: me a hug, She's like, I love you, and she left.
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  Speaker 4: It was nearly midnight.
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  Speaker 13: Shaller says that when Amber left this house, she walked
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  Speaker 13: down the street and he never saw her again. Shaller
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  Speaker 13: told us that he didn't see the client's face that night,
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  Speaker 13: but suspects he had seen him before.
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  Speaker 4: So this is a guy you might have seen.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, this is somebody that I seen. I might be
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  Speaker 17: the one of the only people who knows who he is.
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  Speaker 13: It would be more than a decade before Shaller's description
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  Speaker 13: would lead to a break in the case and a
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  Speaker 13: prime suspect.
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  Speaker 18: To see a timeline of how the case unfolded, go
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  Speaker 18: to forty eight hours dot.
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  Speaker 19: Com The shocking developments in a murder case gone called Michael.
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  Speaker 6: Worker called me and she said, do you know what
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  Speaker 6: happened to I'm like, no.
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  Speaker 1: A husband, a father, an architect, stood before a judge
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  Speaker 1: charged as a serial killer.
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  Speaker 6: She says, it's Rex. I said, no way.
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  Speaker 13: This house was a main focus, and they brought out
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  Speaker 13: a lot of evidence.
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  Speaker 9: I just didn't think it was real.
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  Speaker 4: A Long Island community is still a crime scene tonight.
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  Speaker 9: I even thought to myself, it's crazy that there's two
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  Speaker 9: Rex Hereman's out there.
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  Speaker 13: Mary Schell and Muriel Henriquez worked with Rex Hewerman and
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  Speaker 13: could wrap their heads around the news.
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  Speaker 6: We never thought he would be that kind of person.
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  Speaker 9: It's shocking.
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  Speaker 13: In July twenty twenty three, nearly thirteen years after the
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  Speaker 13: gil go for were discovered, Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney
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  Speaker 13: Harrison made the announcement authorities believe Rex Hewerman is the
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  Speaker 13: Long Island serial killer.
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  Speaker 20: Rex Sherman is a demon that walks among us, a
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  Speaker 20: predator that ruined families.
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  Speaker 13: The man he calls a demon is a six foot
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  Speaker 13: four architect. He's charged with killing Melissa Barthelemy Meghan Waterman,
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  Speaker 13: Amber Costello, and is the prime suspect in the death
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  Speaker 13: of Maureene Brainer Barnes.
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  Speaker 2: What is my client?
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  Speaker 10: He told me he didn't do this.
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  Speaker 13: Heuerman was living about twenty minutes from Gilgo Beach in
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  Speaker 13: Massive Equa, part the very same town where Meghan's phone
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  Speaker 13: last connected with the cell tower, and Hewerman worked here
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  Speaker 13: at his architectural firm in midtown Manhattan, just flocks from
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  Speaker 13: where Maureene disappeared, the same area where several of the
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  Speaker 13: threatening calls to Melissa's little sister were made.
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  Speaker 12: The cause of death with regard to the three victims
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  Speaker 12: is homicidal violence.
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  Speaker 13: A married man, Heureerman lived in this run down house
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  Speaker 13: and as a daughter and step son with his second wife,
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  Speaker 13: Asa Asa, who was born in Iceland, would take the
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  Speaker 13: children to see her family there in the summers. It
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  Speaker 13: was during these trips and others police believed that Huerman
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  Speaker 13: killed the women. You never got any kind of hint
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  Speaker 13: of another life, No true, totally. Muriel Henriquez worked at
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  Speaker 13: Humerman's company RH Consultants and Associates and spoke exclusively to
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  Speaker 13: forty eight hours. She says she saw nothing alarming about
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  Speaker 13: the Rex Huerman.
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  Speaker 4: She saw daily, a little.
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  Speaker 6: Bit of a nerd in a way.
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  Speaker 21: He'd liked to talk about himself, what he knew. I mean,
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  Speaker 21: not a narcissist, but a little bit of a you know.
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  Speaker 6: I know everything kind of guy. Pompus pompus.
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  Speaker 13: She remembers him running to and from job sites, eating
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  Speaker 13: fast food on the run.
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  Speaker 6: Pizza. That was the number one thing.
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  Speaker 15: Police say they found nearly three hundred guns in a
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  Speaker 15: basement vault.
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  Speaker 13: When she heard that police had recovered almost three hundred
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  Speaker 13: firearms from a vault in Huerman's basement, she was surprised
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  Speaker 13: only by the number.
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  Speaker 4: She knew him as an avid.
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  Speaker 6: Hunter, going out shooting, hunting. That was his passion.
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  Speaker 4: What was it about hunting he liked?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 21: I guess he liked the idea of having a prize,
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  Speaker 21: stalking prey, stalking prey and winning.
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  Speaker 6: He liked to win.
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  Speaker 13: And while she says it never occurred to her that
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  Speaker 13: Hureman could be dangerous, she does remember a time when
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  Speaker 13: his tracking skills unnerved her. It was her fortieth birthday
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  Speaker 13: and she had booked a cruise vacation.
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  Speaker 21: Where are you going, because you know I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 21: in the middle of the ocean. You're not gonna find
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  Speaker 21: me in the middle of the ocean. He said, Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 6: I can.
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  Speaker 13: Muriel didn't think much of the comment until the second
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  Speaker 13: day of her trip.
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  Speaker 6: And there was a white envelope under my door from him.
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  Speaker 6: The notes said, I told you I could find you anywhere.
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  Speaker 9: He had photos from hunting trips.
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  Speaker 13: Mary Schell worked with Huerman in the summer of twenty ten.
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  Speaker 13: It was the same summer that both Amber Costello and
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  Speaker 13: Megan Waterman vanished.
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  Speaker 9: He would talk about the meat, in particular that bear
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  Speaker 9: meat could keep in the freezer for months.
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  Speaker 13: Hearing authorities now say that some of the victims were
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  Speaker 13: wrapped in a burlap that hunters often use, was chilling.
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  Speaker 9: The burlap really got to me.
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  Speaker 13: Since Heuerman's arrest, Mary has written about her experience with him.
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  Speaker 13: She's also talked to other former female employees who said
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  Speaker 13: they weren't always treated with respect.
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  Speaker 9: He would have one of them clean the toilet if
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  Speaker 9: he thought the cleaning person hadn't done a good enough job.
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  Speaker 4: A woman in the office, Yes.
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  Speaker 9: Here than once commented on women's bodies, if someone perhaps
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  Speaker 9: had gained some weight, you know that kind of that
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  Speaker 9: kind of thing.
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  Speaker 13: John Preezy grew up with you were men. He says,
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  Speaker 13: Humorman was bullied as a child.
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  Speaker 10: I remember meeting Rex when I was in first the
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  Speaker 10: second grade. He was a loner, not many friends. The
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  Speaker 10: children were super mean to him, made fun of him
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  Speaker 10: and teased him.
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  Speaker 4: But John says he never saw hu Orman fight back.
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  Speaker 10: He was big enough that if he got upset and
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  Speaker 10: started swinging, he would hurt somebody, but he never did.
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  Speaker 13: As human got older, John points out, things didn't get
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  Speaker 13: much better.
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  Speaker 10: It was rejected by many girls. We all go through
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  Speaker 10: that awkward stage growing up, and it seemed like that
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  Speaker 10: awkward stage stayed with him longer than usual.
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  Speaker 13: Still, he says, many in the community find it hard
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  Speaker 13: to believe that Huerman is the notorious serial killer living
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  Speaker 13: a double life for more than a decade.
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  Speaker 10: People were saying, oh my god, I can't believe we
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  Speaker 10: have a serial killer in our town. And we grew
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  Speaker 10: up with and we walked amongst the killer.
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  Speaker 13: Another classmate of Humorman's, actor Billy Baldwin, took to social
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  Speaker 13: media when the news broke, tweeting it was mind boggling rex,
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  Speaker 13: how do the awkward Long Island teenager grew up to
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  Speaker 13: be a confident and seemingly successful architect. Antoinamira met and
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  Speaker 13: interviewed him in twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 8: Born and raised on Long Island, Okay, been working in
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  Speaker 8: Manhattan since nineteen eighty seven.
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  Speaker 11: There's nothing in my interview diet made me think that
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  Speaker 11: this person in front of me is a in person.
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  Speaker 13: Antoine is a hotel, food and beverage manager in New
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  Speaker 13: York who loves real estate. He has a YouTube interview
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  Speaker 13: show where he hand picks guests whom he thinks are
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  Speaker 13: interesting and accomplished.
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  Speaker 8: I'm an architect, I'm an architectural consultant.
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  Speaker 13: I'm a troubleshooter, Antoine says fewer Meant was well known
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  Speaker 13: for his skill at helping companies and individuals get building permits.
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  Speaker 8: When a job that should have been routine suddenly becomes
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  Speaker 8: not routine. Yeah, I get the phone call, gotcha correct?
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  Speaker 11: What really stood out for me was he was very, very, very.
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  Speaker 13: Smart, and known, says Antoine, for his ability to find
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  Speaker 13: loopholes in the rules.
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  Speaker 11: He was pleased when he was doing it that he
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  Speaker 11: could he could outwit the system. That's it, folks, that
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  Speaker 11: was Rex.
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  Speaker 13: But Antoine says, he remembers it was hard to get
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  Speaker 13: Hureman to crack a smile.
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  Speaker 11: It's selfie tied selfie did.
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  Speaker 13: Not even during this signature sunglasses selfies he takes with
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  Speaker 13: every guest.
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  Speaker 11: Two free can you spire?
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  Speaker 13: That is, if police are right, rex Huerman was able
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  Speaker 13: to hide a life as a serial killer, and if
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  Speaker 13: he did, his habit of eating pizza on the go
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  Speaker 13: would turn out to be his undoing. For more than
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  Speaker 13: a decade after the discovery of the Gilgo four, rex
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  Speaker 13: Heuhrmann's name never appeared on a suspect list until a
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  Speaker 13: new task force was formed with Suffolk County Police Commissioner
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  Speaker 13: Rodney Harrison and Suffe County DA Ray Tyranny.
• 22:15
  Speaker 12: In February twenty twenty two, we formed the task force
• 22:18
  Speaker 12: and then a mere six weeks later, rex Huerman was
• 22:22
  Speaker 12: identified for the first time.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: A suspect in six weeks, So how did they do it?
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: It turns out.
• 22:30
  Speaker 13: That buried in the original case files were a number
• 22:34
  Speaker 13: of critical clues that the new task force was finally
• 22:38
  Speaker 13: able to connect. Remember Amber's roommate Dave Shaller, She's.
• 22:43
  Speaker 17: Like I love you, you know. She gave me a
• 22:44
  Speaker 17: hug and she left.
• 22:48
  Speaker 13: He had told Blis about one of Ambers's clients and
• 22:51
  Speaker 13: his vehicle just.
• 22:54
  Speaker 12: Large built man, and that he was driving this first generation.
• 22:59
  Speaker 13: Chevy app a first generation Chevy Avalanche, with a description
• 23:05
  Speaker 13: of an ogre.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Like man and the make and model of his truck.
• 23:10
  Speaker 13: Police took a closer look at Amber's phone records from
• 23:13
  Speaker 13: twenty ten. Shaller had told them that before Amber disappeared,
• 23:18
  Speaker 13: there was one particular client calling incessantly.
• 23:22
  Speaker 17: He called several times, he was on the phone with
• 23:24
  Speaker 17: it for quite a while each time.
• 23:26
  Speaker 13: Police back then knew the client was using a Burner phone.
• 23:30
  Speaker 13: That's a prepaid phone that anyone can buy and use anonymously,
• 23:36
  Speaker 13: and they knew that Maureen, Melissa, and Meghan had all
• 23:39
  Speaker 13: been in contact with Burner numbers right before they disappeared.
• 23:45
  Speaker 13: In twenty twelve, with the help of the FBI, they
• 23:49
  Speaker 13: determined that most of those calls connected to cell towers
• 23:53
  Speaker 13: inside a small area of massive Equa Park.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: They called it the box. So how large an area
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: is that box?
• 24:01
  Speaker 12: You know, a couple of blocks within Massapequa Park.
• 24:06
  Speaker 13: The new task force began the search for a large
• 24:09
  Speaker 13: built man who also lived in that small area and
• 24:13
  Speaker 13: owned a Chevy Avalanche at the time of the disappearances.
• 24:17
  Speaker 13: Was their aha moment when all of a sudden his
• 24:21
  Speaker 13: name came up.
• 24:22
  Speaker 20: Once we were able to attach the Avalanche inside of
• 24:27
  Speaker 20: that massip Equala box, which then attached to Rex Human,
• 24:30
  Speaker 20: that was a moment where we said, Okay, there's something here.
• 24:33
  Speaker 13: The task force now had a prime suspect, and when
• 24:37
  Speaker 13: they looked at Human's personal cell phone records, they found
• 24:41
  Speaker 13: that his phone was in the same area as those
• 24:43
  Speaker 13: Burger phones when they were used to contact a victim
• 24:48
  Speaker 13: in Massapequa Park or in midtown Manhattan.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: It was always consistent.
• 24:55
  Speaker 13: Tiernaney says this was also true for those awful calls
• 24:59
  Speaker 13: Bliss his family got from that man using her phone
• 25:03
  Speaker 13: back in two thousand and nine.
• 25:05
  Speaker 16: He said, do you know what I did to your sister?
• 25:08
  Speaker 16: And he said, well, I killed Melissa.
• 25:12
  Speaker 13: The Task Force says that it confirmed that Huerman does
• 25:16
  Speaker 13: in fact use burner phones. Investigators say he had two
• 25:21
  Speaker 13: different burner numbers in twenty twenty two, and they say
• 25:25
  Speaker 13: they watched and put money on one of those accounts
• 25:28
  Speaker 13: here and according to court papers, the team also documented
• 25:33
  Speaker 13: three email accounts using fake names including John Springfield, Thomas Hawk,
• 25:40
  Speaker 13: and Hunter Won nine oh three and all linked to
• 25:44
  Speaker 13: those Burner numbers, and prosecutors say that Huerman was using
• 25:49
  Speaker 13: a Burner phone to send these selfies to solicit and
• 25:53
  Speaker 13: arrange for sexual activity. One of those accounts linked to Huerman,
• 25:59
  Speaker 13: prosecutors wrote, was used to conduct quote thousands of searches
• 26:04
  Speaker 13: related to sex workers, sadistic torture related pornography, and child pornography.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: There was a lot of torture porn and depictions of
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: women being abused, being raped, and being killed.
• 26:23
  Speaker 13: Investigators also say that while they were busy watching humor men,
• 26:27
  Speaker 13: Heureman was trying to watch them, conducting searches on the
• 26:31
  Speaker 13: task Force and the Gilgo victims.
• 26:35
  Speaker 12: Not only pictures of the victims, pictures of their relatives,
• 26:39
  Speaker 12: their sisters, their children, and he was trying to locate
• 26:44
  Speaker 12: those individuals.
• 26:45
  Speaker 13: The circumstantial evidence was building, but investigators also had physical
• 26:51
  Speaker 13: evidence from the Gilgo four, including one male hair that
• 26:56
  Speaker 13: was found in the burlap used to quote restrain and
• 27:00
  Speaker 13: transport Megan Waterman's body, and they wanted to see if
• 27:05
  Speaker 13: they could link it to Humorman. Police tailed Humorman, and
• 27:10
  Speaker 13: when he threw out this pizza box in this trash
• 27:13
  Speaker 13: can here in midtown Manhattan, they pounced the.
• 27:17
  Speaker 12: Pizza, which was, you know, obviously very significant.
• 27:21
  Speaker 13: Tierney says that Humerman's DNA that was found on that
• 27:25
  Speaker 13: pizza CRUs was consistent with a DNA profile from the
• 27:29
  Speaker 13: hair found with Megan Waterman's body, and that DNA profile
• 27:35
  Speaker 13: is only found in points zero four percent of the population.
• 27:40
  Speaker 12: That was a remarkable day. It was, you know, the weekend,
• 27:43
  Speaker 12: and you know, you read, you get the report, and
• 27:45
  Speaker 12: you read it, and then you read it again, and
• 27:47
  Speaker 12: then you read it a third time, and then you
• 27:48
  Speaker 12: read it a fourth time, and then you start making calls.
• 27:52
  Speaker 13: With the DNA, the search histories and the burner phone evidence,
• 27:57
  Speaker 13: the team felt it was time.
• 28:00
  Speaker 12: When we decided to take down the case. You know,
• 28:02
  Speaker 12: it was a sudden decision. And we did see him
• 28:05
  Speaker 12: contacting a number of sex workers using a burner film,
• 28:08
  Speaker 12: which obviously is concerning.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Playing clothes.
• 28:16
  Speaker 13: Officers arrested him around the corner from his office.
• 28:20
  Speaker 20: I don't think he had any clue. I don't think
• 28:24
  Speaker 20: he had any clue that we want to him.
• 28:28
  Speaker 13: The police spent twelve days looking through Hureman's home, pulling
• 28:33
  Speaker 13: those guns out of the basement and digging in the backyard.
• 28:37
  Speaker 13: They say it will take some time to comb through
• 28:40
  Speaker 13: what they have now and they were type lift about
• 28:44
  Speaker 13: what they found has the fruitful.
• 28:48
  Speaker 20: Great question and answers yess he did elaborate on pot clue.
• 28:52
  Speaker 11: He said, yes, that's true.
• 28:55
  Speaker 20: There have been items that we have taken into our
• 28:57
  Speaker 20: possession that makes it fruitful.
• 28:59
  Speaker 13: And one more big piece of evidence taken into possession
• 29:04
  Speaker 13: a first generation Chevy Avalanche Heureman once used, and it
• 29:09
  Speaker 13: was sitting on property he owns in South Carolina when
• 29:13
  Speaker 13: they recovered it.
• 29:15
  Speaker 12: We were able to seize that Chevy Avalanche pursuing to
• 29:18
  Speaker 12: a search warrant and was certainly going to analyze that.
• 29:20
  Speaker 13: But there were female hairs found on some of the
• 29:23
  Speaker 13: victims' bodies that don't belong to the victims.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: So who do they belong to?
• 29:37
  Speaker 18: What do you make of the evidence against rex Huerman
• 29:40
  Speaker 18: joined the conversation now on social media.
• 29:58
  Speaker 13: After rex Huerman's arrest and his quiet neighborhood in Massapeopa
• 30:02
  Speaker 13: Park was overrun by investigators and media, focusing intense scrutiny
• 30:08
  Speaker 13: on the ramshackle home and its remaining residents, his step
• 30:12
  Speaker 13: son Christopher Sheridan, daughter Victoria Huerman, and his wife of
• 30:18
  Speaker 13: more than twenty five years, Asa Ellerup.
• 30:21
  Speaker 22: Their life going forward is always going to be the
• 30:24
  Speaker 22: wife or the children of suspected serial killer. That's what
• 30:28
  Speaker 22: it's going to be from now on.
• 30:29
  Speaker 13: Attorney Bob Macedonia represents Asa Ellerup, who has since filed
• 30:35
  Speaker 13: for divorce from Huerman. He says she was as stunned
• 30:39
  Speaker 13: as anyone by the accusations.
• 30:42
  Speaker 22: She had no idea how to this going on it
• 30:44
  Speaker 22: The allegations are shocking. Nobody wants to think that they've
• 30:47
  Speaker 22: been living with, sleeping next to a serial killer for
• 30:49
  Speaker 22: the past twenty five years.
• 30:50
  Speaker 13: As it turns out, Awsa may have inadvertently helped focus
• 30:54
  Speaker 13: the investigation on her husband. Investigators say they've identified strands
• 30:59
  Speaker 13: of female hair that were found on two of the victims.
• 31:03
  Speaker 12: One hair on Morterman comes back to his wife or
• 31:06
  Speaker 12: the DNA profiles are consistent, and then the DNA profile
• 31:10
  Speaker 12: from Costello is consistent with the wife.
• 31:14
  Speaker 13: Although prosecutors have evidence that Asa was out of town
• 31:18
  Speaker 13: when those murders occurred, they will have to explain how
• 31:21
  Speaker 13: those hairs got on the victims. Suffolk County DA Ray
• 31:25
  Speaker 13: Tierney says it could be as simple as transfer.
• 31:29
  Speaker 12: You live at home with a spouse, a little bit
• 31:32
  Speaker 12: of your hair falls on your shoulder as well as
• 31:35
  Speaker 12: your spouse's. Then you go out and you interact with
• 31:37
  Speaker 12: the third party and that hair gets on them.
• 31:40
  Speaker 13: Assa Elerep has not been charged or named a suspect
• 31:44
  Speaker 13: in any of the murders. You don't believe that rex
• 31:49
  Speaker 13: Huermann's wife was involved in this in any way.
• 31:51
  Speaker 12: There's no evidence to indicate that.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 31:54
  Speaker 13: Along with the public scrutiny of ASA, there's also been
• 31:57
  Speaker 13: support from people that perhaps know all too well what
• 32:01
  Speaker 13: she's going through. Carrie Rawson, the daughter of serial killer
• 32:06
  Speaker 13: Dennis Rader, who named himself bt K, tweeted, ASA and
• 32:11
  Speaker 13: her kids are also victims.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: I can tell that they are going through hell.
• 32:18
  Speaker 13: And from Melissa Moore, the daughter of Keith Jesperson, a
• 32:22
  Speaker 13: serial killer known as a Happy Face Killer for taunting
• 32:26
  Speaker 13: authorities with letters signed with a happy face.
• 32:30
  Speaker 22: She reached out immediately to myself and we put her
• 32:32
  Speaker 22: in contact with USA.
• 32:34
  Speaker 13: At a press conference, Macedonio announced more set up a
• 32:37
  Speaker 13: GoFundMe page for ASA, which raised over fifty thousand dollars,
• 32:43
  Speaker 13: money he says will largely go.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: To medical bills.
• 32:46
  Speaker 13: ASA is battling breast and skin cancer, and because rex
• 32:50
  Speaker 13: Huerman was the sole provider for the family, Macedonio says
• 32:55
  Speaker 13: she will soon lose her health insurance.
• 32:58
  Speaker 22: AUSA would like me to express her thanks for the
• 33:00
  Speaker 22: support she's received. She's going through a very difficult time.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Ossa's children have also paid a heavy price.
• 33:08
  Speaker 13: Her daughter Victoria, who worked for her father at the
• 33:11
  Speaker 13: architectural consulting firm, and her son Christopher are both now unemployed.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Ossa struggles to.
• 33:18
  Speaker 13: Support them, says Macedonio, while she's also trying to figure
• 33:23
  Speaker 13: out how to start over.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: How is she getting through every day?
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: Honestly?
• 33:28
  Speaker 22: Yeah, minute by minute. She has no one else to
• 33:31
  Speaker 22: turn to it this time. Family and friends have been
• 33:34
  Speaker 22: hesitant to have her come over because they don't want
• 33:36
  Speaker 22: the media attention she gets followed wherever.
• 33:39
  Speaker 14: She goes.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: For the moment.
• 33:42
  Speaker 13: She and her children continue to live in the house
• 33:44
  Speaker 13: in Massapequa Park, which the family says was excessively damaged
• 33:49
  Speaker 13: during the police search seen in these photos provided by
• 33:53
  Speaker 13: Assa's attorney.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: It's a daily.
• 33:56
  Speaker 13: Reminder of the unimaginable crimes her a strange her husband
• 34:00
  Speaker 13: is charged with, and the investigation that continues into what
• 34:05
  Speaker 13: else he may have done. Rex Hewerman, awaiting trial, is
• 34:27
  Speaker 13: locked inside of Suffolk County Jail in a sixty square
• 34:31
  Speaker 13: foot cell. He denies killing Melissa Barthelemy, Megan Waterman and
• 34:42
  Speaker 13: Amber Costello. Their voice is now silent as the sand
• 34:49
  Speaker 13: where they have been ruthlessly discarded. How sure are you,
• 34:56
  Speaker 13: as you're sitting here now, that Rex Hewerman is the
• 34:59
  Speaker 13: Long Island serial killer?
• 35:01
  Speaker 12: So we're just at the beginning stages of this case.
• 35:04
  Speaker 18: But we would not have.
• 35:05
  Speaker 12: Brought this indictment if we weren't confident in our case.
• 35:08
  Speaker 20: He took away somebody's mother, somebody's daughter, somebody's sister, and
• 35:15
  Speaker 20: not just one person, multiple individuals.
• 35:20
  Speaker 13: Heureman is currently the prime suspect for the murder of
• 35:23
  Speaker 13: Maureene Brainer Barnes, and for investigators and obvious questions still
• 35:29
  Speaker 13: hangs heavy.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: If heuer Men is a killer? Are there other victims?
• 35:35
  Speaker 13: I mean, isn't there a real concern that there may
• 35:38
  Speaker 13: be other victims out there?
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Always?
• 35:41
  Speaker 20: Who's to say that there's not more bodies out there
• 35:44
  Speaker 20: that we need to investigate.
• 35:47
  Speaker 13: In twenty eleven, police did find other bodies along Ocean
• 35:52
  Speaker 13: Parkway after finding the Gilgo four.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: There is victim number five.
• 35:58
  Speaker 13: Jessica Taylor and Sa who went missing in two thousand
• 36:02
  Speaker 13: and three. Another set of remains police called Jane Do.
• 36:07
  Speaker 13: Number six is now identified as Valerie Mack, also working
• 36:12
  Speaker 13: as an escort.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Number seven. To investigators surprise.
• 36:18
  Speaker 13: They found a toddler girl. Number eight, an Asian male
• 36:24
  Speaker 13: dress in women's clothing. Number nine a female skull belonging
• 36:30
  Speaker 13: to Karen Vergatta, an escort who disappeared in nineteen ninety six.
• 36:37
  Speaker 13: Number ten female remains from a victim props nicknamed Peaches
• 36:42
  Speaker 13: because of a tattoo on her torso, although her remains
• 36:46
  Speaker 13: were found six miles away. Police a DNA confirms Peaches
• 36:52
  Speaker 13: is the mother that toddler. None of those victims has
• 36:58
  Speaker 13: been linked to Hu. Or is it that you can't
• 37:01
  Speaker 13: connect him yet or you believe he probably isn't the
• 37:06
  Speaker 13: person who killed these other other individuals.
• 37:10
  Speaker 15: I don't know.
• 37:11
  Speaker 13: Investigations also spread to Las Vegas and South.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Carolina, where Hureman owns.
• 37:17
  Speaker 13: Property, with detectives there taking a fresh look at cases
• 37:21
  Speaker 13: of missing women.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: And then there's Nicki Brass.
• 37:28
  Speaker 14: I remembered him because one he's massive, and how many
• 37:33
  Speaker 14: massive like six foot five architects werg in Manhattan, Live
• 37:36
  Speaker 14: Massa Pekoa.
• 37:38
  Speaker 13: You're going from brown and blonde now a hairdresser.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Nicki claims she may be one that got away.
• 37:45
  Speaker 13: She told us she used to work as an escort,
• 37:48
  Speaker 13: and while we cannot substantiate her story, Nicki claims she
• 37:53
  Speaker 13: can't shake her memory of the night.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: She says she was solicited for.
• 37:58
  Speaker 13: Sex by Rex Hewerman and says she fled the restaurant
• 38:02
  Speaker 13: where they met.
• 38:03
  Speaker 14: I had never gone anywhere and felt fear my goat
• 38:08
  Speaker 14: was hung man needed to get away, and I've never
• 38:10
  Speaker 14: had that before.
• 38:12
  Speaker 13: Nicki says what she found most disturbing is that Huerman
• 38:16
  Speaker 13: himself brought up those bodies bound in burlap by Gilgo Beach.
• 38:20
  Speaker 14: He wanted to like really get into it. Like he
• 38:23
  Speaker 14: asked me how I thought they could get rid of
• 38:25
  Speaker 14: the bodies without being caught in that area, and I said,
• 38:29
  Speaker 14: I've never been over there, I've never even seen Gilgo
• 38:32
  Speaker 14: beat And his response was, well, it's really dark and desolate.
• 38:41
  Speaker 13: I'm John Ray and Nicki is now represented by John Ray,
• 38:46
  Speaker 13: an attorney who is also representing Shannon Gilbert's family. In
• 38:57
  Speaker 13: December of twenty eleven, investigators finally found Shannon here in
• 39:02
  Speaker 13: the marsh, not far from Gilgo Beach, but they don't
• 39:07
  Speaker 13: believe she was murdered.
• 39:08
  Speaker 20: It's an unfortunate incident, but right now we believe that
• 39:11
  Speaker 20: she just ran to the marsh and unfortunately drowned.
• 39:14
  Speaker 13: A former investigator told us that he believed Shannon was
• 39:18
  Speaker 13: high on drugs that night and says her death was
• 39:21
  Speaker 13: an accident, something John Ray just can't believe. While he
• 39:25
  Speaker 13: doesn't think Shannon was a victim of Huerman, he does
• 39:29
  Speaker 13: believe she was murdered and points to that nine to
• 39:32
  Speaker 13: one one call.
• 39:36
  Speaker 16: It absolutely makes no sense that she's found where she is,
• 39:39
  Speaker 16: except that someone else put her there or killed her there.
• 39:46
  Speaker 13: While questions remain about Shannon's last hours, there's no question
• 39:51
  Speaker 13: she's the reason so many families may finally be getting
• 39:56
  Speaker 13: answers they have long waited for. We spoke to her sister,
• 40:00
  Speaker 13: Sharie in twenty eleven.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: My sister, you know, didn't make that nine one called.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: I don't think that these other women have been uncovered.
• 40:08
  Speaker 13: Here now, investigators hope that with an arrest, they can
• 40:14
  Speaker 13: give the victims families who stood with them, a sense
• 40:18
  Speaker 13: of justice, end of peace.
• 40:26
  Speaker 12: I've gotten to know the families, and I'm inspired by them,
• 40:30
  Speaker 12: and I'm impressed by their patients.
• 40:36
  Speaker 13: A local legend has it that this place, Gilgo Beach,
• 40:40
  Speaker 13: was named for a skilled fisherman called gil These Silver
• 40:44
  Speaker 13: gray waters once his secret hunting ground. Today, this beach
• 40:51
  Speaker 13: area is better known for a relentless hunter of human prey,
• 40:56
  Speaker 13: a serial killer whose chilling presence can still be felt
• 41:01
  Speaker 13: in the ocean air.
• 41:29
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  Speaker 12: He said, if anybody talks to anybody about this, I'll
• 41:39
  Speaker 12: kill him.
• 41:40
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• 41:42
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• 41:42
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