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Sharri | 16 October · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Andrew, good evening, Welcome to the show. First tonight,
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Speaker 2: to an exclusive report, Prime Minister Anthony Alberzi personally announced
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Speaker 2: that his government was spending one hundred million dollars to
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Speaker 2: upgrade the road that you guessed it leads right to
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Speaker 2: his new four million dollar house. I can reveal that
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Speaker 2: in June this year alban Easy personally spoke about a
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Speaker 2: Voker Drive undergoing a major upgrade. Have a look.
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Speaker 3: The minister might want to respond there, but a Voker
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Speaker 3: Drive one of the times I was here. I know
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Speaker 3: that the surveying work has all been done, and I
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Speaker 3: know that this is a real choke point. So it's
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Speaker 3: very important and that's why we've provided funding to make
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Speaker 3: sure that it happened.
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Speaker 4: The planning work is still being finalized for a Voca Drive,
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Speaker 4: but it's set to start middle next year. We're working
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Speaker 4: with the new South Wales government, who obviously the delivery
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Speaker 4: partners for the project, to deliver that. We provided additional
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Speaker 4: money in the last budget. One hundred and thirty million
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Speaker 4: dollars has now been allocated for this project.
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Speaker 2: As you just heard the Infrastructure Minister Catherine King saying
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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty million dollars was being spent on
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Speaker 2: the road and that work would start the middle of
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Speaker 2: next year. Now one hundred million dollars of that is
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Speaker 2: federal funding and thirty million from the state government. Mister
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Speaker 2: Albanezi initially committed thirty million during the federal election campaign
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Speaker 2: and then another seventy million in January last year. Now,
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Speaker 2: this is a road that alban Easy will need to
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Speaker 2: drive on to get to his new waterfront mansion. And
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Speaker 2: you can see that on this map. A Voker Drive
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Speaker 2: turns into Empire Bay Drive, that into Cullins Road, you
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Speaker 2: make a right turn at Cape three Points Road and
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Speaker 2: then you reach his new digs on del Monte Place.
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Speaker 2: The proximity to the property is pretty clear. Now, Albanizi
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Speaker 2: probably knew that he wanted to buy a place in
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Speaker 2: the area. He said yesterday that he chose Copa Cabana
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Speaker 2: because his future wife is a coasty.
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Speaker 3: Jodie's a coasty, She's a proud coasty.
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Speaker 2: So did Albanezy know he was going to buy in
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Speaker 2: the area before he announced the one hundred millions of
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Speaker 2: dollars in taxpayer funds? And is this something that he
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Speaker 2: should have disclosed if it was already on the hunt
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Speaker 2: for properties when he spoke about that funding in June
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Speaker 2: this year. Well, these are questions for the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: to answer. It is a matter of public record that
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Speaker 2: he's committed one hundred million dollars to a road that
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Speaker 2: he'll need to drive on to reach his new cliff
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Speaker 2: top mansion. A spokeswoman said the funding was complet completely
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Speaker 2: unrelated to the house purchase. She said that the Albanese
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Speaker 2: government has delivered record road infrastructure funding to ensure Australians
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Speaker 2: everywhere have better roads to drive on. Well, in the
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Speaker 2: past two days, we've seen that labor and peas are
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Speaker 2: shocked at Albanese's poor political judgment. His decision to splurge
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Speaker 2: over four million dollars on a waterfront mansion that won't
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Speaker 2: even be his main residence is being called one of
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Speaker 2: the dumbest political decisions he's made. The Australian's Political editor,
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Speaker 2: Dennis Shanahan says that it's up there with Scott Morrison's
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Speaker 2: Hawaii holiday and Tony Abbott's decision tonight Prince Philip. He
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Speaker 2: writes that no matter what Albanese says to justify the purchase,
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Speaker 2: it's a bad political look that makes him appear out
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Speaker 2: of touch with people renting and trying to buy their
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Speaker 2: own home. He says. It also raises the immediate thought
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Speaker 2: that it's a time at parachute for after the election.
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Speaker 2: We spoke about that here on the show last night.
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Speaker 2: Labor and Peas were left to have to try defend
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Speaker 2: the prime ministers out of touch property splurge today.
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Speaker 5: I don't go and talk to the Prime Minister about,
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Speaker 5: you know what, my finances. He doesn't come and talk
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Speaker 5: to me about his, nor should he. If he had,
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Speaker 5: I would have said, mate, you do what you think
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Speaker 5: is necessary for your family with respect. He's a prime minister.
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Speaker 5: He's also an Australian citizen.
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Speaker 4: He wouldn't be a the verse politician or indeed person
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Speaker 4: in Australia to buy and sell property.
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Speaker 2: Yron.
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Speaker 6: Yes, he grew up poor in council housing.
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Speaker 1: As he said, he's been on a good wicket.
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Speaker 7: He's devoted his life to public service. He's been frugal,
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Speaker 7: and he's in a new relationship and has bought a
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Speaker 7: house with his fiance.
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Speaker 2: It's a topic they just don't want to be speaking about,
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Speaker 2: and Coalition figures today called it out of touch?
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Speaker 7: Is the Prime Minister out of touch?
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Speaker 2: I've been saying he's out of touch for a long time.
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Speaker 2: Just think that the timing and the tone of this one,
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Speaker 2: it has been a little bit tone deaf.
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Speaker 8: The homeowner is in Australia that I'm worried about it at
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Speaker 8: the moment of people who can't afford their mortgages.
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Speaker 2: But the Opposition doesn't need to attack this. It's obvious
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Speaker 2: to anyone that it's tone deaf, insensitive and out of touch.
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Speaker 2: It's a slap in the face to ordinary Australians who
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Speaker 2: can't afford to buy a home or meet their mortgage repayments.
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Speaker 2: How can the Prime Minister stand up there and tell
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Speaker 2: Australians that he understands what they're going through when he's
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Speaker 2: buying a cliff top mansion. Now I've confirmed that he
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Speaker 2: did take time out from running the country to go
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Speaker 2: and do an inspection of this home before he bought it,
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Speaker 2: so he was off house hunting while Australians were struggling
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Speaker 2: to pay their bills, meet their mortgage repayments after thirteen
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Speaker 2: interest rate rises. But there's also shows that he just
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Speaker 2: doesn't care enough about winning the next election, and he
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Speaker 2: doesn't care enough about his MPs in marginal seats where
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Speaker 2: housing affordability is unquestionably the top political issue. One can
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Speaker 2: only assume that he's become swept up in the entitlement.
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Speaker 2: He travels in a private plane that he jokingly refers
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Speaker 2: to as Toto one, after his dog. He's got a chauffeur,
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Speaker 2: a cook, free travel, and hotels. He's become so used
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Speaker 2: to the life of luxury that perhaps he can't understand
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Speaker 2: why his own MPs are stunned that he's bought a
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Speaker 2: waterfront home during an economic crisis just months out from
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Speaker 2: polling day. Now, Michael Kroger and Graham Richardson are going
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Speaker 2: to be on the show in just a moment to
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Speaker 2: talk some more about that. But let's get the latest now.
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Speaker 2: On the Middle East, the United States has sent a
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Speaker 2: threatening ultimatum to Israel demanding it increase humanitarian aid to
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Speaker 2: Gaza within the next thirty days of face weapons cuts.
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Speaker 2: The letter, written by US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln
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Speaker 2: and also Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, has warned Israeli ministers
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Speaker 2: I'm going to quote it here that failure to demonstrate
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Speaker 2: a sustained commitment to implementing and maintaining these measures may
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Speaker 2: have implications for US policy. So this is a very
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Speaker 2: threatening letter from the United States, and it's been sent
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Speaker 2: just weeks before the presidential election. But the United States
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Speaker 2: knows all too well that Israel has been sending enormous
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Speaker 2: supplies of both food and aid into Gaza. The problems
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Speaker 2: on the other side. It's up to the humanitarian organizations
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Speaker 2: in Gaza to distribute it, and they're clearly not doing
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Speaker 2: that properly. And in some cases we know that Hamas
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Speaker 2: is looting the goods and then reselling them at inflated prices.
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Speaker 2: But let's have a look now at the actual facts.
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Speaker 2: Let's take yesterday, October the fifteenth, well A, one hundred and
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Speaker 2: four trucks carrying humanitarian goods were transferred into Gaza. Seventy
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Speaker 2: six via the Kerem Shalom crossing and twenty eight by
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Speaker 2: the Ers crossing, so one hundred and four a trucks,
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Speaker 2: but only twelve of the seventy six were collected from
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Speaker 2: the Gaza side of Kerem Shalom. Every day there are
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Speaker 2: up to thirty tons of aid going into Gaza, and
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Speaker 2: these figures are published daily, but there are currently five
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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty trucks worth of AID sitting in Gaza
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Speaker 2: waiting for collection, five hundred and thirty trucks sitting abandoned now.
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Speaker 2: Also yesterday there were six gas tankers for the operation
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Speaker 2: of essential infrastructure that entered Gaza. There was also the
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Speaker 2: second round of pole vaccination for children that began just
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Speaker 2: yesterday across Gaza, and on top of this, seventy six,
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Speaker 2: three hundred and ninety four children received vitamin A. There
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Speaker 2: are also twelve bakeries currently operating in Gaza, four in
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Speaker 2: the north and eight in the south. Now Kogat, that's
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Speaker 2: the Israeli body that distributes AID in Gaza. It has
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Speaker 2: thoroughly rejected the notion that they're impeding the aid, the
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Speaker 2: entry of any aid at all. They say Israel has
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Speaker 2: not halted the entry or coordination of humanitarian aid. Elon Levy,
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Speaker 2: who was on this show last night, he made the
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Speaker 2: point today on social media that the best way to
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Speaker 2: ensure the uninterrupted supply of humanitarian aid into Gaza is
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Speaker 2: to remove from power the terrorist regime that is hijacking
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Speaker 2: that aid, siphoning some for itself and selling the rest
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Speaker 2: at extortion prices. Now, of course the Democrats know that
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Speaker 2: this is what's happening. They know that Israel is letting
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Speaker 2: aid in and tons of it, literally tons. This is
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Speaker 2: all about politics as the election gets closer and Kamala
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Speaker 2: Harris is worried she'll lose Nancy Pelosi. Also, this isn't accidental,
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Speaker 2: this is by design. Nancy Pelosi came out overnight slamming
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Not withnawho.
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think he's ever believed in peace or
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Speaker 3: to state solution.
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Speaker 2: That's very, very disappointed. Well, given Nancy Pelosi played a
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Speaker 2: prominent role in overthrowing Joe Biden, she probably now thinks
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Speaker 2: she can end Nettiyaho's Prime ministership as well. Well. Pelosi
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Speaker 2: needs to be reminded that Israel is a democracy. Up
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Speaker 2: to the Israelis to decide who their leader is, not
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Speaker 2: some out of touch left leading Democrat living a world
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Speaker 2: away from daily rocket fire. And perhaps Pelosi should spend
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Speaker 2: more time calling for the overthrow of terrorist regimes that
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Speaker 2: are raping, mutilating, and murdering thousands of people, including American citizens.
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Speaker 2: Those are the ones who do not believe in peace,
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Speaker 2: not Israel, but that would be asking too much from
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Speaker 2: yet another fraudulent feminist. Now I've got another big show tonight.
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Speaker 2: Former IDF combat commander Jonathan Conrichis will join me live
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Speaker 2: from Israel. Shorty plus James Patterson, Michael Schubridge. That's all
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Speaker 2: coming up, but first let's bring in now former Victorian
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Speaker 2: Liberal Party president Michael Kroger and former labor minister Graham Richardson. Welcome, gentleman, Michael.
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Speaker 2: I want to start with your reaction to my revelations
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Speaker 2: tonight on the show that the Albanezy government has announced
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Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars in taxpayer funds for the Evoker
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Speaker 2: Drive upgrade a road that Albanezy has to drive on
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Speaker 2: to get to his house. Now coincidental of cost, but
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Speaker 2: it's not a good look.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a shocking look. If you thought yesterday was terrible,
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Speaker 9: today is even worse, given what you've said. Coincidental, yes,
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Speaker 9: of course, but to spend one hundred million dollars of
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Speaker 9: federal funds, which is going to probably increase property values
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Speaker 9: in the area, which is what happens when these major
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Speaker 9: upgrades take place, et cetera. Center it's a terrible look.
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Speaker 9: Look Sharry. This guy was elected to parliament when John
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Speaker 9: Howard was elected Prime Minister twenty eight years ago. On
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Speaker 9: the second of March next year, Albo will have been
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Speaker 9: in Parliament twenty nine years and he's going to try
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Speaker 9: and convince the electorate later that month or in April
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Speaker 9: or May that he wants to stay for another four years.
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Speaker 9: That would be thirty three years in parliament. People are
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Speaker 9: not going to buy that. This guy looks as if
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Speaker 9: he's moved to retirement. He's getting married again, he's buying
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Speaker 9: a house on the beach up in the north. He's
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Speaker 9: run out of path. He looks like someone is exhausted.
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Speaker 9: He doesn't look like he's inspired or ready to go
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Speaker 9: for another five years as Prime Minister or leader of
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Speaker 9: the Labor Party. The stuffing was knocked out of him
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Speaker 9: from the voice onwards. He's never recovered and he just
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Speaker 9: seems to be going through the motions and he looks
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Speaker 9: as if to me and I'm sure everyone out there,
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Speaker 9: this guy just looks as he's headed towards retirement.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely got one eye on it. To spend your
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Speaker 2: time house hunting when you're in the middle of a
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Speaker 2: cost of living crisis, a housing affordability crisis, Richoe, what
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Speaker 2: was he thinking?
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Speaker 1: That's a good question.
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Speaker 10: I think the timing is, shall we say, somewhat ill considered.
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Speaker 10: Obviously he's been in the job a long time. Politicians
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Speaker 10: are relatively well paid, so imagine if you go to
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Speaker 10: the bank manager, it wouldn't be too difficult for him
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Speaker 10: to raise the money. But that having been said, it's
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Speaker 10: how it all looks, and at the moment, you know,
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Speaker 10: with so many people battling to get a house at all,
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Speaker 10: it's not a good look. It wasn't politically clever.
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Speaker 2: Rich I've got to ask you, what are some of
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Speaker 2: the labor insiders saying to you.
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Speaker 10: I think there's a little bit of disappointment in his judgment.
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Speaker 10: That's what's been conveyed to me. But you know, in
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Speaker 10: each defense, I've got to say, you've got to be
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Speaker 10: able to buy your house. That's one of the fundamental
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Speaker 10: things that Australians have always talked about is the right
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Speaker 10: to home ownership.
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Speaker 2: Well, he's got a couple of homes already. We're talking
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Speaker 2: about a beach house here in a cost of living
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Speaker 2: and housing affordability crisis. So I don't know if you
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Speaker 2: Australian dreams. You've got to be able to have a
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Speaker 2: third and fourth property and one on the beach.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I know, But we're talking about a beach house
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Speaker 10: to which he's going to retire. I mean, we're not
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Speaker 10: talking about something he's going to be having on the
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Speaker 10: market to rent for the next thirty years. He's going
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Speaker 10: to retire it in the next couple of years and
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Speaker 10: live in it forever.
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Speaker 2: So, Michael, But Michael, I mean, is this the message
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Speaker 2: that he should be setting to Australians, that is preparing
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Speaker 2: to retire when he's meant to be focused all of
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Speaker 2: his energy on the multiple scandals that he's unleashed on
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Speaker 2: our country.
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Speaker 9: No, Look, it's a terrible message. I mean, Look, the
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Speaker 9: one thing a politian has to do is say I'm
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Speaker 9: going to serve out the full term. I'm definitely going
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Speaker 9: to twenty twenty nine. It's what he'll have to tell people.
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Speaker 9: I've got no intention of doing any other than being there.
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Speaker 9: If you give the electorate any sense at all that
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Speaker 9: you might retire midterm after the twenty five election, you
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Speaker 9: might retire in twenty six to twenty seven, So you're
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Speaker 9: not there for the long term. You will get trounced
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Speaker 9: at the polls. The elector will not vote for a
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Speaker 9: politician who is who is basically announced their retirement. Oh
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Speaker 9: but could you reelect me pleased for another few years
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Speaker 9: whilst I workout who should be most successful or enjoy
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Speaker 9: the job whatever.
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Speaker 1: No, there's no way.
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Speaker 9: The electorate always want a politician who is going to
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Speaker 9: work one hundred hours a week on their behalf for
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Speaker 9: them and for the country. If you give any impression
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Speaker 9: all that you're on the way out the door, you'll
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Speaker 9: get flogged. And this is just such a shocking look.
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Speaker 9: He looks as if he's He looks as if he's
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Speaker 9: headed for the door, and everyone can see that.
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Speaker 1: Everyone knows he is headed for the door.
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Speaker 9: That's why Charmers and Burke and all these other people
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Speaker 9: are sniffing around.
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Speaker 1: It's a terrible look.
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Speaker 2: No, one hundred percent. Well, let's turn to someone else
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Speaker 2: who is about to get chanced in the polls, and
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Speaker 2: that's Premier Stephen Miles in Queensland, ten days now away
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Speaker 2: from losing office. If the career mail poll is anything
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Speaker 2: to go by, the primary vote has the L and
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Speaker 2: P ahead by eighteen percent. And this comes as the
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Speaker 2: leaders faced off in another fiery debate.
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Speaker 5: He can't tell Queensland how he is funding is more
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Speaker 5: than seventeen billion dollars of election commitments.
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Speaker 3: We are in a youth crime crisis, we are in
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Speaker 3: a health crisis, and the fact the government won't say
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Speaker 3: those words tells you they will never be able to
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Speaker 3: fix it.
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Speaker 2: Rich O, Queensland has clearly seem ready for a change.
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Speaker 2: Do you think this sentiment might also impact federally as well?
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Speaker 10: No, I don't think so. It's I think that we've
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Speaker 10: seen so many times that people do think separately in
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Speaker 10: those two instances, but certainly in the Queensland election, things
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Speaker 10: are looking more than grim for labor.
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Speaker 2: Michael. Do you think this will be a wipeout in Queensland?
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Speaker 8: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I do.
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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, in defense of per Old Stephen,
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Speaker 9: they are going for fourth term and as they keep saying,
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Speaker 9: fourth terms are almost impossible to win. Because the Electric thinks, well,
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Speaker 9: if if it's so necessary to reelect you, because you've
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Speaker 9: got those great ideas, why did you implement them before?
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Speaker 9: I mean the implement the fifty cent transport feares, before
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Speaker 9: the free lunches at schools before, No, the electric things
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Speaker 9: lease are just destinate measures so you can get another
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Speaker 9: four years premiere. If they were such good ideas you've had,
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Speaker 9: you've had since twenty fifteen to Wilming with them. So
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Speaker 9: he looks as if he's headed for eight percent plus
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Speaker 9: swing against him. I think Christophully only needs five in
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Speaker 9: a mid eleven or twelve seats. So Miles is going
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Speaker 9: to get flogged. He's trying his best, but he's just
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Speaker 9: he looks desperate, and he's going to be headed for
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Speaker 9: the door on Saturday week.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, and well I'll be watching of course. Now.
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Speaker 2: Foreign Minister Pennywong has been pandering for some time now
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Speaker 2: to the pro Palestinian crowd. Well she got to see
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Speaker 2: some of them up close today at the University of Tasmania.
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Speaker 2: She was trying to deliver a speech. She just couldn't
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Speaker 2: get through it. Here's what happened.
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Speaker 4: This is a very distressing Well, I don't actually believe,
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Speaker 4: and I've never believed that we gain any thing by
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Speaker 4: shouting each other down.
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Speaker 1: Right now, leading.
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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four is on track to be even worse.
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Speaker 2: She eventually just got fed up and she left the stage.
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Speaker 2: She tried to lecture them, she tried to tell them
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Speaker 2: to listen to what she had to say. Rich, Oh,
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Speaker 2: this is the crowd she's been poundering to.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, well that's not much of a crowd that's worth
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Speaker 10: poundering too. At any point, I think you know mugs
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Speaker 10: or trumps sometimes, and that's what you saw, then.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael, I mean, unless she comes out and actually
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Speaker 2: says that she doesn't support Israel's right to exist, she's
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Speaker 2: she's not going to win with that group. And yet
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Speaker 2: they keep trying to. They keep going further and further
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Speaker 2: to the left, more and more extreme, to try and
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Speaker 2: win them over.
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Speaker 9: The noisiest vessels of the hard left and the hard right.
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Speaker 9: And she's been pandering to the hard left for all
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Speaker 9: the reasons we know, trying to stop the Greens winning seats,
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Speaker 9: et cetera, et cetera. She's been panted to them. But
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Speaker 9: you can never be extreme enough for these people. So
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Speaker 9: I thought when I first saw that, oh, these will
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Speaker 9: be you know, pro Jewish demonstrators angry with the treatment
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Speaker 9: of Jews on campuses, for example. Then I thought, oh, no,
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Speaker 9: it's the it's people from her left. I mean, to
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Speaker 9: be left of Penny Wong on the Middle East is
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Speaker 9: some damn achievement, to be honest, let's you know, that's
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Speaker 9: some achievement. So you know you can't panter these extremists.
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Speaker 9: Their whole motus operande is to intimidate. They're trying to
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Speaker 9: intimidate Wong. They certainly intimidate Albanez. You know a lot
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Speaker 9: of people in the labor government. You have to stand
20:43
Speaker 9: up to thugs and bullies and Jewish hating racists in
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Speaker 9: this country. You've got to stand up for them with
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Speaker 9: honor and integrity and courage. And although you'd expect them
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Speaker 9: to say this, that's what Peter Dutton has done, it's
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Speaker 9: what James Patterson's done, and it's what Simon Birming has done.
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Speaker 2: Yep. You know what, Michael, We have been broadcasting on
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Speaker 2: the show just how unsafe it is for Jewish students
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Speaker 2: to turn up to universities like A and U and Canberra,
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Speaker 2: like University of Sydney. They can't actually get through classes
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Speaker 2: lectures sometimes because of protests and activity like that. The
21:19
Speaker 2: federal government has been basically silent on it. And then
21:23
Speaker 2: Penny One got a taste of it today. I wonder
21:26
Speaker 2: if she regrets failing to stand up for the Jewish
21:29
Speaker 2: students exactly. Well, let's have a look at where Donald
21:32
Speaker 2: Trump and Kamala Harris are up to now. The latest
21:34
Speaker 2: polls have the election results so tight that Greg Sheridan
21:38
Speaker 2: wrote today that Democrats will spring both an October surprise
21:43
Speaker 2: and an election Day surprise in desperate last minute efforts
21:47
Speaker 2: to keep Trump out of office. Rich O, the polls
21:52
Speaker 2: that I've seen over the past day or so have
21:54
Speaker 2: Trump just ever so slightly ahead, zero point four percent
21:58
Speaker 2: ahead in those seven battle ground state. But we know
22:01
Speaker 2: that in the past elections his support has been underestimated.
22:05
Speaker 2: So where do you think this has had it?
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Speaker 10: Well, I've got to say I'm a little worried. I
22:12
Speaker 10: wasn't so worried six weeks ago. But the closer it
22:15
Speaker 10: gets to the day, the better Trump's doing, There's no
22:19
Speaker 10: doubt about that. The question then becomes how many people
22:23
Speaker 10: go out to vote for it, because that's what it's
22:25
Speaker 10: all about in America is getting your team out onto
22:29
Speaker 10: the paddock. And I'm not sure that you know you
22:32
Speaker 10: can always guarantee that because you look okay in the polls,
22:36
Speaker 10: your team's coming out. And so, as far as I'm concerned,
22:41
Speaker 10: it still looks like a knife edge. But I'm certainly
22:46
Speaker 10: not giving Harris any edge over Trump, which I would
22:53
Speaker 10: have been doing a few weeks.
22:54
Speaker 2: Back, just to be clear for any shadow of doubt, Rich,
22:57
Speaker 2: I strongly supporting Kamala Harris Kroger. How do you see this?
23:02
Speaker 2: Just you know, two and a half weeks or so
23:04
Speaker 2: out from polling day.
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Speaker 9: So I think there's a sixty five percent likelihood And
23:12
Speaker 9: now that Trump will win. He looks like the winner
23:14
Speaker 9: in Arizona. He looks like the winner in North Carolina.
23:18
Speaker 11: He looks like the.
23:19
Speaker 9: Winner in Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin. She was well ahead
23:25
Speaker 9: and now she's only mildly head or the lioneball. She
23:28
Speaker 9: was ahead in Pennsylvania, now he's ahead. It's just it's
23:32
Speaker 9: all eyes on Pennsylvania, sar As. I'm concerned if he
23:35
Speaker 9: wins that he'll win the election. It looks as if
23:38
Speaker 9: he's going to win that The worst thing that's happened
23:40
Speaker 9: to her is there's a drift away from her. The
23:43
Speaker 9: momentum is slowly drifting away from her with not long ago,
23:47
Speaker 9: and it's going to be very hard for her to
23:48
Speaker 9: get that back. I think what's happened is this, it's
23:51
Speaker 9: taken months and months and months, but eventually the electorate
23:55
Speaker 9: in America have worked out that she's not a serious
23:58
Speaker 9: enough person to be president of the United States in
24:02
Speaker 9: a world crisis and an economic crisis. For all these
24:05
Speaker 9: terrible faults, they feel safe with Donald Trump and she
24:09
Speaker 9: just doesn't seem to have the worth wherewithal to be president.
24:12
Speaker 9: Some of the answers she's given to questions seriously about inflation,
24:16
Speaker 9: et said that we've all seen totally unqualified to be
24:19
Speaker 9: president of the United States.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, at the moment, she's her own worst enemy. If
24:23
Speaker 2: she can't handle media interviews, voters are saying, well, how
24:26
Speaker 2: can you be president of the United States? All right?
24:29
Speaker 2: Michael Kroger, Grae and Richardson, thank you both very much.
24:33
Speaker 2: Now let's turn to deeply concerning comments by a Sydney barrister,
24:38
Speaker 2: as in a lawyer, a barrister who celebrated Hasbela leader
24:42
Speaker 2: Hassa Israla for being on the right side of history
24:46
Speaker 2: and a hero of the Arabs. This exclusive story in
24:49
Speaker 2: The Australian says that barrister Mamudmando said that Hesbela was
24:53
Speaker 2: created by the Israeli aggression and occupation of Lebanon shutout
24:58
Speaker 2: home A fairs minister James Patterson joins me. Now, James,
25:01
Speaker 2: great to see you again. Do you think the New
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Speaker 2: South Wales Bar Association needs to investigate these comments and
25:09
Speaker 2: whether this barrister is a person of certain standing to
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Speaker 2: be able to continue to operate as a barrister.
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Speaker 1: Good evening, Shari.
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Speaker 7: These are extraordinary comments for any Australian to make, glorifying
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Speaker 7: a dead terrorist leader and a terrorist organization, but they
25:27
Speaker 7: are particularly alarming from an officer of the court and
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Speaker 7: a barrister. And yes, the New Southlals Bar should be
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Speaker 7: investigating whether this is consistent with their guidelines and rules.
25:37
Speaker 7: I'm not privy to what they are, but I'd also
25:39
Speaker 7: encourage mister Mando, given that he is a barrister, to
25:42
Speaker 7: go to his office to take out a copy of
25:45
Speaker 7: the Commonwealth Criminal Code and to read it, because if
25:48
Speaker 7: he does so, he'll find that supporting a list of
25:51
Speaker 7: terrorist organization is a very serious crime with very serious penalties.
25:55
Speaker 7: That praising or glorifying a terrorist organization in a way
25:58
Speaker 7: that could incite others to order terrorist organization or commit
26:01
Speaker 7: an active terrorism is also a serious crime, and he
26:04
Speaker 7: should reflect on whether it's a good idea for a
26:06
Speaker 7: lawyer of anyone compared to anyone in the community to
26:10
Speaker 7: run close to breaking that law or close to that line.
26:13
Speaker 7: I think it's very ill advised behavior and you should
26:15
Speaker 7: reflect on that.
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Speaker 2: But you can see why people feel comfortable to come
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Speaker 2: out and say this in media interviews because there's barely
26:23
Speaker 2: been any action taken by law enforcement, even though, as
26:26
Speaker 2: you say, it is illegal to support a listed prescribed
26:30
Speaker 2: terror regime in this country. Now we see stories both
26:34
Speaker 2: in The Australian and the finn Review today that Jewish
26:38
Speaker 2: Australians are defying the new Albanesi government warnings to leave
26:43
Speaker 2: Israel while they still can and to not visit Israel.
26:47
Speaker 2: We're seeing that people are saying, or Jews are saying,
26:50
Speaker 2: they feel safer in Israel because of the horrific anti
26:54
Speaker 2: Semitism that we're seeing in Australia. And so we have
26:57
Speaker 2: seen the Australian government has upgraded its advice. They're now
27:01
Speaker 2: saying do not travel to Israel, and to any Australians
27:04
Speaker 2: there that they should come home. Now, James, from my perspective,
27:08
Speaker 2: there is no question it is physically safer here in
27:12
Speaker 2: Australia and having just been in Israel last week, having
27:15
Speaker 2: to listen out for sirens that warn of incoming missiles
27:20
Speaker 2: and then have to get down on the ground. I mean,
27:23
Speaker 2: it just is. It's alarming. The Iron Dome does intercept most,
27:27
Speaker 2: but not all, of the rockets, and then, of course,
27:29
Speaker 2: even if they do intercept the rockets, there's the danger
27:32
Speaker 2: of falling shrapnel, which does injure Israeli's But then when
27:36
Speaker 2: it comes to as a Jewish person expressing your identity,
27:40
Speaker 2: showing your identity with a mug and David or other
27:44
Speaker 2: jewelry or clothing, there's no doubt it's safer in Israel
27:49
Speaker 2: than Australia. So I want to ask whether this concerns
27:52
Speaker 2: you that the level of anti Semitism we're seeing in
27:55
Speaker 2: Australia that's been allowed to take hold is so bad
27:58
Speaker 2: that we're seeing a group of peop people now feel
28:01
Speaker 2: safer in a war zone than here.
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Speaker 7: So it's deeply distressing to read stories like this. And
28:08
Speaker 7: I've also heard stories firsthand from members of the Australian
28:11
Speaker 7: Jewish community in Melbourne and Sydney that they are contemplating
28:14
Speaker 7: moving to Israel because they do believe they'll feel safer there,
28:18
Speaker 7: and that's an absolutely remarkable thing to say when you
28:20
Speaker 7: think about it. Israel's under attack right now from three
28:23
Speaker 7: terrorist organizations and a very menacing regime and the Iranian state,
28:29
Speaker 7: and so that people would feel safer there than in
28:31
Speaker 7: Melbourne and Sydney. In Australia, it is a travesty and actually,
28:34
Speaker 7: frankly a stain on our great country. It's something that
28:38
Speaker 7: we have to fix and it can only be fixed
28:39
Speaker 7: with two things. The first is political and moral leadership
28:42
Speaker 7: from the very top, from the Prime Minister, saying that
28:44
Speaker 7: we'll never tolerate this anti Semitism, that Jews are welcome
28:47
Speaker 7: in Australia, that they're part of our country, that they
28:49
Speaker 7: enrich our country. And the second is fixing this law
28:52
Speaker 7: enforcement crisis that you were talking about before and actually
28:55
Speaker 7: making sure the laws that on the books are enforced
28:57
Speaker 7: and extremism and extremists feel the consequences of their behavior,
29:01
Speaker 7: because until that happens, they will continue to be emboldened.
29:04
Speaker 7: And Jews who have lived here all their lives, who've
29:06
Speaker 7: come here and fled the Holocaust, who have been here
29:08
Speaker 7: and can trace their descendants back to the first fleet
29:11
Speaker 7: can feel safe again in our country.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a really sad state of affairs. And
29:17
Speaker 2: by the way, because I spoke about this in an
29:19
Speaker 2: article in the Sunday Telegraph and then I posted the
29:22
Speaker 2: article on x or Twitter, and the comments under it
29:25
Speaker 2: people just say leave, go to Israel, get out, We
29:28
Speaker 2: don't want you here. So the anti Semitism is there
29:30
Speaker 2: in black and white. It's astonishing. And I don't think
29:34
Speaker 2: any of them were ABC employees, by the way, but
29:36
Speaker 2: you never know. Now Kevin Rudd has caused a stowe.
29:40
Speaker 2: He's got a new book on She as in shi Jingping.
29:44
Speaker 2: This is a revamp of his old thesis in which
29:46
Speaker 2: he argued that the world will be most danger under
29:49
Speaker 2: She's leadership. Now, James, I want to see if you
29:53
Speaker 2: agree with this, because he says that if China is
29:55
Speaker 2: successful in invading or reunifying with Taiwan, then this will
30:01
Speaker 2: see a period of US decline. So if his assessment
30:05
Speaker 2: is right, do you think this therefore means that America
30:08
Speaker 2: should intervene to stop China from invading Taiwan. And we've
30:13
Speaker 2: just seen in the past couple of days those really
30:15
Speaker 2: aggressive war games that one hundred and twenty five military
30:19
Speaker 2: aircraft from the PLA and also the naval vessels encircling Taiwan.
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Speaker 1: Sharrey.
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Speaker 7: I think I'm going to be first to line up
30:28
Speaker 7: at the bookshop to buy Kevin's book because based on
30:31
Speaker 7: the excerpts that I have read, there's a lot that
30:33
Speaker 7: I agree with. In fact, it sounds an awful lot
30:36
Speaker 7: like the kind of things that people like me and
30:38
Speaker 7: Andrew Hasty have been saying since about twenty seventeen, in fact,
30:42
Speaker 7: the kind of things that Kevin Rudd used to criticize
30:44
Speaker 7: Andrew Hasty and I and others for saying. So it's
30:47
Speaker 7: a welcome change of heart from Kevin. Based on what
30:50
Speaker 7: I understand his argument is, I think there's a lot
30:52
Speaker 7: to agree with. There's probably two things that I disagree with. One.
30:55
Speaker 7: I think he over emphasizes the extent to which Hijinping
30:58
Speaker 7: represents change rather than continuity in the Chinese Communist Party.
31:02
Speaker 7: I think the most persuasive evidence is from people like
31:04
Speaker 7: Rush Doshi, whose book The Long Game really sets out
31:07
Speaker 7: that nothing has fundamentally changed about the trajectory of the
31:10
Speaker 7: Chinese Communist Party under Schujing Ping. He might have just
31:13
Speaker 7: accelerated it and the second is he makes a remarkable
31:16
Speaker 7: argument that once Shijingping leaves the stage, China will return
31:20
Speaker 7: to more moderate leadership under the Chinese Communist Party. I
31:23
Speaker 7: don't share that confidence at all, particularly because basically every
31:27
Speaker 7: analyst got Hijing Ping wrong. They said that he would
31:29
Speaker 7: be a moderating influence, and he certainly hasn't been that.
31:32
Speaker 7: So I don't think we can rest on our laurels
31:34
Speaker 7: and assume that that's not the case. To your early question,
31:36
Speaker 7: I think what it commands of us is to be
31:38
Speaker 7: as strong as possible and to work as closely as
31:41
Speaker 7: possible with our allies to deter Shujing Ping and the
31:43
Speaker 7: Chinese Communist Party from doing something incredibly reckless like invading Taiwan.
31:47
Speaker 2: M I think the comment that Joe Kelly made because
31:51
Speaker 2: he was the journalist who interviewed Kevin Right about his book.
31:53
Speaker 2: He said that Penniwang and albanize he should read this
31:56
Speaker 2: book because it's a wake up call. There seems to
31:58
Speaker 2: be this complacency Australia at the moment towards the communist
32:03
Speaker 2: regime in China. But I agree with you, and not
32:06
Speaker 2: only do we not know who she's successor will be,
32:09
Speaker 2: so therefore we don't know whether they will be more
32:12
Speaker 2: authoritarian or worse for the world. But also there's the
32:16
Speaker 2: fact that she has eliminated many of his rivals, so
32:20
Speaker 2: you know, anyone more moderate. We just don't know what's
32:24
Speaker 2: where they are, what's happened to them? Will there have
32:26
Speaker 2: been many mysterious disappearances. All right, James Patterson, really appreciate
32:31
Speaker 2: your time. Thank you. Now, after the break, what will
32:35
Speaker 2: Israel do with three captured Hezbla terrorists? A former IDF
32:40
Speaker 2: combat commander Jonathan conworkers will join me on the show,
32:44
Speaker 2: and later Kamala Harris takes Aimurt Donald Trump's dancing more
32:48
Speaker 2: on where this election is headed. Welcome back, and let's
32:55
Speaker 2: bring in now former combat commander and retired lieutenant colonel
32:59
Speaker 2: in the Israeli Defense Forces, Jonathan Conracates. Jonathan, thank you
33:04
Speaker 2: very much for your time. Look, I want to start
33:06
Speaker 2: with this letter from the United States. What's your response
33:10
Speaker 2: to the accusations from the US that Israel isn't sending
33:14
Speaker 2: enough humanitarian aid to Gaza.
33:19
Speaker 1: Yes, good day, and thank you for having me.
33:22
Speaker 11: It's a very serious deterioration, I would say in the
33:26
Speaker 11: relationship between the US and Israel.
33:28
Speaker 1: I would say that, on one hand.
33:30
Speaker 11: There is important information in it, and I think that
33:34
Speaker 11: Israel would be wise to improve and enhance the humanitarian
33:39
Speaker 11: operations full stop. And on the other hand, I would
33:43
Speaker 11: say that it is regrettable that this is the first
33:46
Speaker 11: important letter that the US government sends to Israel. As
33:51
Speaker 11: Israel is fighting on three active fronts on the ground
33:55
Speaker 11: and seven total fronts. It's a very delicate situation because
33:59
Speaker 11: Israel is very, very dependent on US support diplomatic and military.
34:05
Speaker 11: So bottom line, I think Israel has little choice but
34:09
Speaker 11: to make serious, enhanced, more efforts that beyond what Israel
34:14
Speaker 11: is already doing, in order to improve first and foremost
34:17
Speaker 11: the situation on the ground and then very importantly, the
34:21
Speaker 11: appearances of the situation on the ground. It's a difficult
34:24
Speaker 11: task because what Israel hasn't communicated well enough is that
34:29
Speaker 11: the problem isn't the amount of trucks that are delivered
34:32
Speaker 11: to the Gaza Strip. It is the final stage of
34:35
Speaker 11: distribution in the Gaza Strip, and that's where the big
34:38
Speaker 11: challenge is because that is where most of the aid
34:41
Speaker 11: either is stuck in you and warehouses or is looted
34:46
Speaker 11: and stolen on the way by local gangs or by
34:49
Speaker 11: rama's operatives, and at the end of the day, suffering
34:54
Speaker 11: Palestinians they don't many times get the aid that they
34:57
Speaker 11: need because of disruptions by Hamas.
34:59
Speaker 1: And Israel hasn't communicated.
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Speaker 11: This well enough, and I think that the letter will
35:04
Speaker 11: urge Israel to do so.
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Speaker 2: So I went through some of the figures at the
35:07
Speaker 2: start of my program, up to thirty tons of aid
35:12
Speaker 2: going into Gaza every day. As you say, there's a
35:15
Speaker 2: distribution problem from both the humanitarian groups inside Gaza, but
35:19
Speaker 2: also the issue of Hamas stealing the aid and then
35:23
Speaker 2: often reselling it at inflated prices. But Jonathan, while Israel
35:28
Speaker 2: hasn't communicated this well enough, as you say, to the public,
35:32
Speaker 2: the US must surely know this.
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Speaker 11: Yes, But of course there's an election cycle getting close
35:42
Speaker 11: to the final lap in the US, and I think
35:46
Speaker 11: that the letter is part of that. It's part of
35:48
Speaker 11: an effort by the administration to show to various constituencies
35:52
Speaker 11: in the US that the administration is tough on Israel
35:56
Speaker 11: and holding Israel accountable.
35:58
Speaker 1: I think the elections.
35:59
Speaker 11: I'm not sure that the letter would have been sent
36:01
Speaker 11: had it not been election cycle. So I take that
36:05
Speaker 11: into account, but you know, addressing it seriously. There is
36:08
Speaker 11: more to do, and I think that it is within
36:11
Speaker 11: in Israel's interest to do more. But the challenge here
36:15
Speaker 11: is that the real combat environment in northern Gaza specifically,
36:19
Speaker 11: but also in the southern part is very very challenging
36:22
Speaker 11: and frankly, you know, to really supply all of the
36:26
Speaker 11: goods to the final distribution inside Gaza, that means that
36:31
Speaker 11: the IDF would have to safeguard the convoys itself in
36:36
Speaker 11: order to make sure that they get to the final user.
36:38
Speaker 11: And to be frank the IDEF doesn't have that amount
36:41
Speaker 11: of personnel, and the IDEF has to rely on Israel,
36:44
Speaker 11: has to rely on other institutions to do it, you
36:47
Speaker 11: and and other humanitarian organizations, and they are reporting that
36:51
Speaker 11: they are afraid to do so because of what Hamas
36:54
Speaker 11: is doing and other law lesson gangs inside Gaza.
36:58
Speaker 1: So it's a complex situation.
36:59
Speaker 11: There is suffering and I think we recognize that and
37:03
Speaker 11: is what is doing a lot of efforts, but not
37:05
Speaker 11: communicating it well enough yet.
37:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, just finally, Jonathan, what's your response to this demand
37:11
Speaker 2: from French President Emmanuel Macron. We see he keeps lecturing Israel.
37:16
Speaker 2: He's now demanding a ceasefire. What's your response to this?
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Speaker 11: Very very unfortunate, very disappointing, I would say, and you know,
37:28
Speaker 11: I'm a student of military history. It rings familiar from
37:33
Speaker 11: the Second World War and before that, siding with the
37:37
Speaker 11: wrong side, not with the democracy, but with the aggressor.
37:41
Speaker 11: And it rings familiar in Jewish years. It rings familiar
37:44
Speaker 11: of dark times in French and global history. I think
37:48
Speaker 11: it's very unfortunate, and I think that any democracy in
37:51
Speaker 11: the world should have its priorities straight and understand which
37:55
Speaker 11: side of history they stand on. You're either on Israel's side,
38:00
Speaker 11: a democracy and imperfect democracy fighting for its survival against
38:05
Speaker 11: the forces of darkness in the Middle East, or you're
38:09
Speaker 11: with the forces of darkness.
38:11
Speaker 1: You can't have it both.
38:12
Speaker 11: And when you support Israel, which is what democracies should
38:15
Speaker 11: be doing, in my humble opinion, that shouldn't be caviated,
38:19
Speaker 11: and it shouldn't be with pressure on Israel, but it
38:21
Speaker 11: should be strong and proud support, even if it isn't
38:25
Speaker 11: convenient from domestic political purposes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what we're seeing across the board, including
38:31
Speaker 2: as you say, in the US, because there are high
38:34
Speaker 2: Muslim populations in some of those battleground states that the
38:37
Speaker 2: Democrats are desperate to win. Jonathan Connacist, thank you very
38:41
Speaker 2: much for joining me tonight live from Israel. Now plenty
38:45
Speaker 2: more to come on the show. New data exposes the
38:47
Speaker 2: financial pain Australians are feeling, all while the PM bats
38:52
Speaker 2: off claims that he's out of touch. My panel will
38:55
Speaker 2: talk about that next plus with the US Poll's Neck
38:57
Speaker 2: and Neck. Kamala Harris takes a sweat at Trump after
39:02
Speaker 2: his music fest. Stay tuned, welcome back. Well, let's bring
39:09
Speaker 2: in now for our political panel, Julia Gillard's former Press
39:12
Speaker 2: secretary Darren Barnett and National MP Keith Pitt. Welcome to
39:16
Speaker 2: you both. Darren. I want to ask your view, as
39:20
Speaker 2: a former Labor Press secretary, how can the Prime Minister
39:24
Speaker 2: buy a beach house just months out from the federal
39:28
Speaker 2: election being caught?
39:29
Speaker 12: I think also part of it is the price tag.
39:32
Speaker 12: Part of it is the scenario that most families are
39:36
Speaker 12: facing at the moment where times are difficult, the cost
39:39
Speaker 12: of living has gone through the roof, the idea that
39:42
Speaker 12: someone has a little bit extra to have an investment property,
39:46
Speaker 12: where most people are struggling to pay rent or meet
39:49
Speaker 12: their mortgage. I think he should have just waited until
39:52
Speaker 12: after the election, after his marriage, whatever the case may be.
39:56
Speaker 12: But the timing, it's not so much necessarily the even
40:00
Speaker 12: though that has some questions, but the timing is really surprising.
40:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, Keith, what do you think. I think Australians want
40:07
Speaker 2: to get the sense that their leader understands what they're
40:11
Speaker 2: going through, showing it with.
40:15
Speaker 1: A different view.
40:15
Speaker 8: I think to strike a genius. He's in the position
40:18
Speaker 8: to watch where Jim Chalmers has parked the Australian economy
40:21
Speaker 8: right on the edge of a clifford about to fall
40:23
Speaker 8: into this. So I've heard all the talk about retirement
40:27
Speaker 8: and everything else. And if the Australian people decide they
40:29
Speaker 8: want to retire the Prime Minister, they've got an opportunity
40:31
Speaker 8: between now and the end of May and that they
40:34
Speaker 8: can make a choice. But I'm not going to buy
40:36
Speaker 8: into the PM's personal circumstances that that's up to him.
40:38
Speaker 8: And I've also got this very unique view that I
40:42
Speaker 8: want people in the Parliament who can actually manage to
40:45
Speaker 8: hold alone pay their bills, run a business. I don't
40:49
Speaker 8: think it's actually in the nation's interest to have politicians
40:52
Speaker 8: who are basically can't scratch two cents together. I've never
40:55
Speaker 8: done anything terribly constructive, and in fact.
40:57
Speaker 1: We've all got to be poor.
40:58
Speaker 8: So I just this is a tough one, Shari.
41:01
Speaker 1: But let's be frank.
41:04
Speaker 8: He's purchased something with a new partner, and good luck
41:06
Speaker 8: to them, Darren.
41:07
Speaker 12: Look my only I agree that it's great that the
41:11
Speaker 12: prime minister is able to buy a home and all
41:13
Speaker 12: the rest of it. But the prime ministerial job is
41:16
Speaker 12: a unique job. That's why at the start of the
41:18
Speaker 12: campaign they ask you, how much is a leader of
41:20
Speaker 12: milk a loaf of bread if you go to the
41:23
Speaker 12: service station and buy forty leaders of petrol. They want
41:27
Speaker 12: to know that. People want to know that you have
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Speaker 12: your finger on the pulse of what it's like to
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Speaker 12: be one of them.
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Speaker 2: That's the problem, one hundred percent well said, and I
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Speaker 2: haven't heard anyone else make that point, and it's a
41:37
Speaker 2: really good one. Now let's have a look at Donald Trump.
41:41
Speaker 2: He was at a rally near Philadelphia. It took quite
41:45
Speaker 2: a bizarre turn. The former president ended up spending i'm told,
41:48
Speaker 2: forty minutes dancing after two audience members had a medical
41:52
Speaker 2: episode have a look.
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Speaker 3: You'll play ymcre go ahead, Let's go nation laud.
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Speaker 2: And then Kamala Harris seemed to comment on this. She posted,
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Speaker 2: I hope he's okay on social media. That to me
42:19
Speaker 2: looks like a pretty fun rally, though, Keith, I mean
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Speaker 2: maybe they were just going through his own Spotify Spotify playlist.
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Speaker 8: In terms of the playlist, Sharon, there's only one out
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Speaker 8: of two that it'd be on mine.
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Speaker 1: It's not my MCI.
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Speaker 2: But you know, it's a bit of fun.
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Speaker 8: And Trump's obviously confident and he's in character, and at
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Speaker 8: these rallies, you know, there's a lot of energy and
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Speaker 8: it's good to be upbeat. And I think Kabala Harris,
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Speaker 8: the longer this campaign runs, the more concerned their camp
42:48
Speaker 8: will be. I think Trump's starting to get his nose
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Speaker 8: in front. But regardless of all of that, it's up
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Speaker 8: to the American people and what's wrong with a bit
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Speaker 8: of fun in politics?
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Speaker 2: Shary, No, exactly. I think more politics should dance on stage.
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Speaker 2: I'd be tuning in for sure. But Darren, I think
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Speaker 2: you know what Keith says is right. The more that
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Speaker 2: people see Kamala Harris, they're concerned that there's not enough
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Speaker 2: substance there. Donald Trump's doing multiple interviews every day, She's
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Speaker 2: struggling with basic answers, and she hasn't at any point
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Speaker 2: faced proper interrogation.
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Speaker 12: In the end, as Keith says, the American people will decide.
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Speaker 12: I don't think she's done a bad job. I think,
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Speaker 12: considering where Biden was that that's the fact that we
43:33
Speaker 12: are even talking about a possible Democratic win that Harris
43:37
Speaker 12: has done a terrific job. So whether that momentum can
43:40
Speaker 12: last to the finish line, I don't know, but I
43:43
Speaker 12: think she's resurrected what was an incredibly flagging.
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Speaker 2: Campaign, and that is one hundred percent thur. It would
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Speaker 2: be very different situation the polls if Joe Biden was
43:51
Speaker 2: still there, they would have no hope. Yeah, Darren Barnett
43:54
Speaker 2: to Keith Pitt, thank you both very much. Now after
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Speaker 2: the break, how Labor is trying to mix First Nations
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Speaker 2: approaches to foreign policy, plus China's wanting to Canberra after
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Speaker 2: it condemned its wargames in Taiwan. Michael Schubridge will join
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Speaker 2: me next. All right, let's bring in now Strategic Analysis
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Speaker 2: Australia Director Michael Schubridge. Michael, great to see you again. Look,
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the front page of
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Speaker 2: the Daily Telegraph today. They revealed that the Department of
44:27
Speaker 2: Foreign Affairs has hired a firm to touch base with
44:31
Speaker 2: indigenous stakeholders in order to devise a strategy that would
44:37
Speaker 2: embed First nations approachs to foreign policy. So having first
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Speaker 2: nation's indigenous approaches to foreign policy, Michael, how is this relevant?
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Speaker 6: Well, Sherry, I think it shows you Foreign Affairs as
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Speaker 6: the Department doesn't know, which is why they're no doubt
44:56
Speaker 6: paying this company a whole lot of money to try
44:58
Speaker 6: and tell them what it means. But the idea of
45:02
Speaker 6: embedding First Nations perspectives in the heart of Australian foreign
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Speaker 6: policy is a bit nonsensical. Australian foreign policy has to
45:12
Speaker 6: be about a national security, our national interests and our values,
45:16
Speaker 6: and frankly, First nations issues, while important, are just a
45:21
Speaker 6: tiny little subset. So this is a tail wagging the
45:25
Speaker 6: dog problem.
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Speaker 2: We're also hearing that members of the communist regime in
45:30
Speaker 2: China are sending rebukes to Australia after the Albanesi government
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Speaker 2: quite rightly condemned China's large scale military exercises around Taiwan.
45:41
Speaker 2: Is this more bullying that we're starting to see from China.
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Speaker 2: At the slightest pushback from the Albanese government.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I think it's preventative pushback, so in case mister
45:55
Speaker 6: Albanezi thinks he might do something. Now hearing this retired
45:59
Speaker 6: colonel from the PLA must have been licensed by the
46:01
Speaker 6: Communist Party leadership to speak say things like why would
46:05
Speaker 6: Australia threaten China? Why would China threaten Australia. There's no reason,
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Speaker 6: but we can now easily reach Australia with our military capabilities.
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Speaker 1: Well, that is.
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Speaker 6: Simply threatening language. That's the kind of behavior we're seeing
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Speaker 6: from China, even with this stabilized lovely lobster relationship.
46:23
Speaker 2: Look the Iran strikes in Israel, those two hundred ballistic
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Speaker 2: missiles that really shook the nation. That was about two
46:30
Speaker 2: weeks ago. Now we're still yet to see Israel's retaliation.
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Speaker 2: We're expecting it any day in the next week. They've
46:39
Speaker 2: had to coordinate with the United States. That Nettaniahu's phone
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Speaker 2: call with Joe Biden was just a few hours after
46:45
Speaker 2: I met with him in his office. What are you
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Speaker 2: expecting to see from these strikes from Israel against Iran.
46:52
Speaker 2: Do you think it could be on the nuclear sites
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Speaker 2: or the oil sites, or do you think it might
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Speaker 2: be a military target?
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Speaker 6: Surey, I think it's going to be focused on military targets,
47:04
Speaker 6: maybe some of their command and control and some of
47:07
Speaker 6: their missile capabilities. I wouldn't be surprised if something like
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Speaker 6: that guesthouse where the Hasbola chief was staying in the
47:14
Speaker 6: heart of Tehran gets a further dose of medicine, because
47:19
Speaker 6: this is about Israel demonstrating Iran is defenseless to Israeli power.
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Speaker 2: Well, we did see that those ballistic missiles that came
47:31
Speaker 2: in from Tehran were stronger, were more powerful than even
47:36
Speaker 2: Israel expected. Do you think that was a bit of
47:38
Speaker 2: a wake up call to America as well as to Israel.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think you can see the American reaction. Putting
47:46
Speaker 6: that additional missile defense system into Israel, which will be
47:51
Speaker 6: operated by American troops a pretty extraordinary move. Look, I
47:55
Speaker 6: think the Israeli air and missile defense system is the
47:58
Speaker 6: best out by far, the best on the planet, but
48:02
Speaker 6: even that will have holes and gaps. But Iran is
48:06
Speaker 6: completely open compared to Israel.
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Speaker 2: Do you think this could spark a next stage of
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Speaker 2: the war, because for the past year we've seen Israel
48:16
Speaker 2: dealing with the terrorist regime in Hamas and Hasbala. But
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Speaker 2: do you think this could yeah, spark a whole new stage.
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Speaker 6: It's possible, but I think the Iranian regime already knows
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Speaker 6: that Israel overmatches it with military strike capability. If they
48:37
Speaker 6: want to learn that lesson in an even bigger, harder way,
48:40
Speaker 6: that might be just about to happen. But Iran is
48:43
Speaker 6: in no position to fight in all our war with Israel.
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Speaker 2: With the US stepping into defend it. And as you say,
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Speaker 2: that THAD defense system that America is sending along with
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Speaker 2: one hundred American troops on the ground, if nothing else,
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Speaker 2: that's a big show of support, not the letter they've sent. However,
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Speaker 2: Michael Shubridge, thank you very much for your time, and
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Speaker 2: that's it for me. I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock.
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Speaker 2: But right now, here's my good friend, Paul Murray.