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One Piece WANNABE, 715 & 716 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering one piece episodes seven point fifteen and seven sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: The Manly Duel, Signor's Elegy of Love and Stardust of Death,
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  Speaker 1: Diamonte Storm of Vicious Attacks. I'll give you guys three
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  Speaker 1: guesses which of these I am more interested in? In
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  Speaker 1: this episode, Florian is here to talk with me about
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  Speaker 1: my second favorite character, first favorite. It's a real to
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  Speaker 1: toss up at this point. Welcome to spoil Me, Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the show everyone. I am Natasha.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, and I'm Flori Yay.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a full disclosure. I was supposed to watch
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  Speaker 1: three episodes and I only watched two, which I have
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  Speaker 1: done on Lives of Florine in the past, and he
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  Speaker 1: has been a great sport about me not being super
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  Speaker 1: profession sorry about it, but you know, he has assured
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  Speaker 1: me that he's really here for the first two mostly,
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  Speaker 1: so we're gonna go with that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, my guess is the of those two storylines
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  Speaker 2: are more interested in Sanuel Pink's.
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  Speaker 1: Just drop.
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  Speaker 2: That's by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you guys, so I posted on Instagram. Uh isn't
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  Speaker 1: it nice? It's a very rainy day, we brought the
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  Speaker 1: dogs to doggie daycare, so having a chill morning, I
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  Speaker 1: made myself a pot of tea. I have my little
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  Speaker 1: candle here, and I watched the episode and it was like,
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  Speaker 1: just so nice. So you guys can see it. I
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  Speaker 1: post a little video of it and I got myself
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  Speaker 1: all settled and was like, oh, this is ideal. And
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  Speaker 1: then I started the episode and it's like send your
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  Speaker 1: Pink story and I was like, oh my god, this
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  Speaker 1: is the best day. Everything is so good right now.
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  Speaker 1: So did you, like, I don't remember how the timing
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  Speaker 1: worked out. Did you book a live before I had
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  Speaker 1: met sendor Pink, assuming that I would like him, or
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  Speaker 1: did you book this after I met him and loved him.
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  Speaker 2: It was the day off, but before it was like
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  Speaker 2: the day that you would meet him and talk about
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  Speaker 2: it on the podcast. I booked the I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to be for today and then I heard your reaction
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  Speaker 2: to him, and I was like, I made the right decision.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, Oh, that's amazing. How weird that it
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  Speaker 1: was even the same day. That's awesome. I love it
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  Speaker 1: so much.
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  Speaker 2: I remember while booking it, I was like, I just
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  Speaker 2: hope that she will like him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that would have been a drag if I
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  Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck is this? So you are
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  Speaker 1: a big fan of his, I take it as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean he is just one piece encapsulated. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like if if you had somebody who is like
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  Speaker 2: I never ever watch one piece or what is this about?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like maybe with a little bit background explanation,
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  Speaker 2: you could show them these two episodes and be like, basically,
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  Speaker 2: what you get here you get throughout the whole show.
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  Speaker 1: I feel I feel like you'd be over promising, to
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  Speaker 1: be honest, because it's just such top tier, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like it's not you know, I just it's so so.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say, like, the way that we're
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  Speaker 1: getting backstory on so many of the executives is very unexpected.
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  Speaker 1: I really didn't think that we were going to find
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  Speaker 1: out as much about them as we have, and I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have expected to care either, and not all of
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  Speaker 1: them obviously, like we weren't getting back I hope we
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  Speaker 1: don't get like a backstory about Diamante or something, because
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  Speaker 1: it's fucking who cares, Although that might be the very
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  Speaker 1: next episode and I'll be like, but it just is.
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  Speaker 1: It goes to show that even though sometimes I think
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  Speaker 1: the issue when I don't like something in One Piece
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  Speaker 1: is that it's trying to do too much that's not
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  Speaker 1: always necessary the case, like, sometimes it does so much
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  Speaker 1: and it still manages to pull it off. And this
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  Speaker 1: is a time where it just really it's such a
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  Speaker 1: perfect matchup to between him and Frankie in particular, and
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  Speaker 1: I just everything about the way the fight goes and
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  Speaker 1: the way like what we find out, because I as
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  Speaker 1: much as I was baffled at him in a diaper
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  Speaker 1: and a baby bonnet, as much as I didn't like understand,
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  Speaker 1: I also was willing to just go with it because
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  Speaker 1: the people in One Piece dressed like maniacs. Absolutely so fine, sure,
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  Speaker 1: whatever you know. And then to find out that there
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  Speaker 1: is like a specific reason about it and that he
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  Speaker 1: used to be like a really really sharp dresser. Actually
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  Speaker 1: that part cracked me up. Especially Oh yeah, definitely. Seraphim
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  Speaker 1: is in the chat and says, the moment you started
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  Speaker 1: loving send your pink. Everybody knew this backstort be awesome.
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  Speaker 1: You get a reaction. The assumption is if you love
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  Speaker 1: Pink before, this just takes it to a new level.
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  Speaker 1: If you hate him, this turns it all around. The
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  Speaker 1: fact ODA can make you feel this much and this
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  Speaker 1: sad about a grown man who dresses like a baby.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing he can't too. It's so like it's so
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  Speaker 1: messed up, though, seraphim that you say that, because when
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  Speaker 1: you say, like, feel this sad, I honestly didn't feel sad,
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  Speaker 1: even though it is a sad story. I was too
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  Speaker 1: delighted with the like the not the content itself, but
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  Speaker 1: like that there was an explanation that I barely even
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  Speaker 1: really had time to feel sad because I was just
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  Speaker 1: so like, this is incredible the whole time, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. So okay, okay, okay, Let's start from
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the Manly Duel, which there is a
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  Speaker 1: reel going around on Instagram that's a bunch of outtakes
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  Speaker 1: from the Key and Peel Show. Have you ever watched
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  Speaker 1: Ken Peel? Okay, it's a comedy sketch show with two
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  Speaker 1: black men, one of whom went on to be a
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  Speaker 1: director and he did Get Out, which became pretty famous.
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  Speaker 1: But they did a sketch show for a while that
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  Speaker 1: was really good. And there are outtakes and one of
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  Speaker 1: them they're like face to face, like threatening each other,
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  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they just kiss and
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  Speaker 1: they both start laughing. But they were too close, like
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't ignore the fact that, like, and I did
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  Speaker 1: have a couple moments with him and Frankie where I
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  Speaker 1: was like, just kiss, just do it, guys, just go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: just do.
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  Speaker 2: It now, kiss now, kiss.
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  Speaker 1: So the let's see where does this open? Oh? Right,
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  Speaker 1: first we open with fucking Bellamy. Still I am sick
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  Speaker 1: of this man. Let's just saying, I ah why, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, I'm here, we can talk about it. I honestly
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  Speaker 2: love it that you give so much grace to Glo.
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  Speaker 2: When I say grace, I don't. I'm just going to
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  Speaker 2: be honest. I think I said it twice. Now He's
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  Speaker 2: not I don't care about him. He's likely from a
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  Speaker 2: writing point of view, I actually see that it's interesting
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  Speaker 2: to bring him back, and you know, and I feel
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  Speaker 2: like you also said multiple times that you find it
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  Speaker 2: interesting and like there's something there and I just did
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  Speaker 2: not see that because I don't like the character. If
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  Speaker 2: that means, you know, I'll.
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  Speaker 1: Be honest, like, I think that it was interesting much
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  Speaker 1: more in concept than it has turned out to be.
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  Speaker 1: An execution. M. You're right, like, as a character, he
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  Speaker 1: is kind of whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't yeah, I just don't care about him.
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  Speaker 2: Like there's not even like something that I hate him
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  Speaker 2: or anything. It's just like, well, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I definitely get that. It's it's the thing
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  Speaker 1: that I enjoyed so much was that it felt at
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  Speaker 1: first like, Okay, this guy who way back when, I
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  Speaker 1: think I even commented when Bellamy first showed up as
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  Speaker 1: a villain that he had the most vanilla design out
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  Speaker 1: of any of the villains we had met so far.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody else was like so intense with the costume or
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  Speaker 1: really extreme weird bodies with like you know, very long
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  Speaker 1: noses or huge hair or something, and he was just
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  Speaker 1: a really like mid regular guy except for his weird
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  Speaker 1: tongue thing. So right out of the gate, I was
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  Speaker 1: sort of like, why is this guy so much more
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  Speaker 1: boring than everybody else has been? Then he pops back
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  Speaker 1: up at the coliseum and there's this whole thing with
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  Speaker 1: him changing his mindset on things, and I'm like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe that's it is that we're going to have met
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  Speaker 1: him as a boring guy. And then he starts to
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  Speaker 1: grow more interesting and then we reached this point where
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  Speaker 1: he hasn't grown more interesting at all. He's still hanging
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  Speaker 1: on to the sad little scrap that he was hanging
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  Speaker 1: on to way back when, which isn't. Like I have
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  Speaker 1: said already, I feel like there are people who are
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  Speaker 1: like this. So it doesn't feel like bad writing exactly
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  Speaker 1: in terms of a character, but it just feels like
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  Speaker 1: wasted potential to have done something more interesting with him.
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  Speaker 2: I guess. So I can just say that even if
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  Speaker 2: it would be a great story, I didn't know. No,
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  Speaker 2: I just don't like that you talked about like favorite
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  Speaker 2: characters in the show, like he is definitely my least
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  Speaker 2: favorite ones where I'm just like and should make.
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  Speaker 1: A list of like favorites and these favorites.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's just how the diser sometimes, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you see a character or something and you're just like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't I just don't like you.
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  Speaker 1: It happens, It happens. So, yeah, we have the checking
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  Speaker 1: in on that battle, but nothing really changes with that,
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  Speaker 1: and then we go over to the Princess and Leo
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  Speaker 1: and Cub and this is so the Princess is trying
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  Speaker 1: to mac on Leo, and Leo is not picking up
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  Speaker 1: what she is putting down at all. No, she wants
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  Speaker 1: him to carry her because she wants to feel his
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  Speaker 1: strong arms around her and feel cozied up against his body.
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  Speaker 1: And he's just like, get the fuck up, Oh gross, walk,
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  Speaker 1: you are so pitiful. Stop being a baby. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, I mean he says you have healing powers,
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  Speaker 2: so like even if you yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's you know what, that's fair on his part, Like
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  Speaker 1: if you are going to try and like get into
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  Speaker 1: somebody's arms and you know that you have healing powers,
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  Speaker 1: talking about how you have an injury really shouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: the way that you approach it. She really should have
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  Speaker 1: come up with something better than that, maybe just saying
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  Speaker 1: like I'm so scared I needed comfort or something, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't know how he'd react to that, though
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to give your dating advice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean it is like a cute I
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  Speaker 2: find it, Like in the end problem Light, it's cute
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  Speaker 2: between those two much. It is literally like I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: they're made for each other.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I can't help too, but wonder like
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  Speaker 1: as a woman who has been called difficult upon occasion.
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  Speaker 1: I have enjoyed, especially the men who call me out
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  Speaker 1: on being difficult sometimes because I have often been able
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  Speaker 1: to just sort of get my way due to being
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  Speaker 1: cute and very charming. And when there's a dude who
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  Speaker 1: isn't caught up in that and it's just like you're
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  Speaker 1: being kind of a bitch, I can't help but be like,
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  Speaker 1: oh wow, so it's not just about you trying to
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  Speaker 1: say whatever I want to hear so you can try
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  Speaker 1: and get my pants. So maybe that's part of it
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  Speaker 1: for her with Leo, is the fact that, like, he
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  Speaker 1: isn't just saying whatever she wants to hear because she's
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  Speaker 1: the princess and she's so cute. The fact that he
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  Speaker 1: is telling her to get the fuck up on her
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  Speaker 1: own two feet, maybe that's part of the draw for her.
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  Speaker 1: That's my head canon, is that she likes the fact
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  Speaker 1: that he calls her out. I'm going with it. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna find out some whole thing later and it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be like nothing like what I said. Oh well,
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  Speaker 1: I stand by it, so let's see. Oh right. Eventually
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  Speaker 1: she does jump on his back and he's yelling at
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  Speaker 1: her about how she's selfish and despicable and mean spirited.
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  Speaker 1: And she's literally just laying her face against his back
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  Speaker 1: with tears in her eyes, saying his back feels nice,
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  Speaker 1: and Cub is looking down at her, thinking, our princess
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  Speaker 1: is just the sweetest. And I did really love the
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  Speaker 1: fact that he can see what's happening here, and yet
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  Speaker 1: he never really seems to want to be like Leo, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: she's fucking flirting with you? What is wrong with you?
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  Speaker 1: Like he just watches from the sidelines, going this idiot,
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  Speaker 1: but he doesn't try and like explain to him what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: I can't decide if that's like a good move or not.
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  Speaker 1: Would you tell your friend?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like when it is the thing that you
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  Speaker 2: said before, of like because Leo is this way with
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  Speaker 2: her that's kind of like what makes it interesting or
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  Speaker 2: special or like gives them the connection. So if by
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  Speaker 2: you pointing it out, you made might destroy it or
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  Speaker 2: change it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hmm, it would.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of depend on that.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I guess it. Wonders it depends on
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  Speaker 1: I wonder whether or not Cubb thinks the same thing
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  Speaker 1: that I do about what it is that she even
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  Speaker 1: likes about Leo. There are also times where I feel
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  Speaker 1: like if you haven't figured it out, when a person
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  Speaker 1: is being this obvious, me telling you, I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know that you would believe me because you should have
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  Speaker 1: been able to tell by yourself. So now it's just
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: a matter of like, are you burying your head in
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: the sand on purpose? Are you ignoring ring this? Like
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but anyway, So we then go over
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  Speaker 1: to Jiola and she is embarrassed about the fact that
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  Speaker 1: the princess got away, and she's like, I really don't
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  Speaker 1: want to tell the young master that I fucked up
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  Speaker 1: as bad. But he said at one point that Manchuri's
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  Speaker 1: power has an ultimate ability that he thought he could
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  Speaker 1: use if something happened to the Smile Factory. If she
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  Speaker 1: traded her life to call forth that forbidden power, she
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  Speaker 1: could restore it to its glory. Without that failsafe, we
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  Speaker 1: could be in trouble. And she crawls toward the transponder
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  Speaker 1: snail and just reached out for it, and she collapses
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  Speaker 1: before she manages to get there. I am so curious
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  Speaker 1: because if I didn't already know that Law had eaten
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  Speaker 1: a fruit, which when you sacrifice yourself gram somebody else's
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: eternal life. I would assume that's what Manacherie's power did.
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  Speaker 1: But we already have one of those, so I figure
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  Speaker 1: we're not doing that twice. But because like she can
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  Speaker 1: restore the smile factory, that's the part that keeps tripping
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  Speaker 1: me up. Her ability in healing seems to only work
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  Speaker 1: on like human bodies. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe it works
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  Speaker 1: two items as well. Can she cry on a cracked
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: vase and the vase is just whole again? Like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't really know how far this extends. I just made
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  Speaker 1: an assumption. So her saying that she could restore the
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  Speaker 1: smile factory, I'm just like, what, So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what to make of this. You can't tell me anything.
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  Speaker 2: No, I cannot tell you. We don't know. But but
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I I think the guests that we already
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  Speaker 2: have one that extends your life, that it would be
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  Speaker 2: like two times the same thing would be kind of
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  Speaker 2: boring or like kind of like So I think your guests,
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  Speaker 2: or like your theory sounds howld I say that yeah, legit, yeah,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: shuret that out there. No, it's good, like I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to say, right, but it is not valid valid. That's
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: also a good one. Thank you. English is not my
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: first language. I like to say it.
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  Speaker 1: Every time you say that, though, I'm always just like,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, because you just are very very good at English,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't remember, even with your accent, until you
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: have one of these little moments, and then I'm just like, deeply,
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  Speaker 1: deeply ashamed at my lack of proficiency in any I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: really should have learned something.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Do you have like duo lingo something?
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, I definitely do. Do I retain anything? No, not
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a drop. I used to be able to speak Spanish
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  Speaker 1: pretty well for a period in my life and it's gone,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: my friend, like just fragged. My system has just erased
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: it from the hard drive and made room only for
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: like facts about Sookie Stackhouse. So that's where I'm at.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I My French is also like I had
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: French in school, but ever leaving school, I didn't need
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: it to use it, so no, no way.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: So how many languages do you have then?
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  Speaker 2: German and English? I would say a little bit.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: You have a little French.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not able to speak it really, maybe a
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: little bit understanding, but reading and writing, no chance. I'm okay, Yeah,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I've heard that you talked about that. Sean was like
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: German like on doing that, yeah, And I was always like,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I would really love to hear her talk German, but
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you can get her to talk
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: on the podcast.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I like, I feel like I tried once and I
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: can't remember. It might have been a spoil on sober
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: or something, but she hasn't been doing that because her
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: husband has been really, really sick, so she has fallen
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: off of her practice. And I know I haven't heard
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: her talk about it in a while, but I don't
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: remember what it was. But there was something specific that
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: she that caused her to want to learn German in particular.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I wish I could remember what it was, because yeah,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: when she told me that's what she was learning, I
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: was like, really okay, And yeah, she was like on
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the uh Facebook typing in German with another German listener
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: in comments. At one point they were like going back
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and forth and it was really fun, like the listener
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: was just like oh shit. But I've never heard her
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: actually speak it out loud. So anyway, I.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Will be interested for if you ever hear this.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I'll try and to get it set up so that
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: we can go to Germany at one point, so she
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: feels real pressure to learn because I'm not going to learn,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: so she'll have to speak for me. Also, all right,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: back in the episode, we go back to Frankie and
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: send Your Pink fighting, and we have the ladies on
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the sidelines saying that he needs to please be careful. Meanwhile,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: what is the name of the little people? Again?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: That hot us?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Thank you? I don't know why I have trouble remembering
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that they are watching the fight and are kind of
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: baffled at the fact that Frankie doesn't seem to be
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: like dodging or blocking. And when he hits s in
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: your pinks and your Pink just takes the hit also
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: and goes down. And they keep just noticing they're making
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: the same moves over and over. What's going on here?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And finally Frankie says that this dude is just so
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: damn legit. I can't dodge his attacks. I am going
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: to take it full on because he is such a
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: badass that he deserves to be treated with that respect.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: It is a really weird way to talk about this.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Like he said, the guy's a bro among bros. I'm
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: going to take every attack he throws at me out
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: of respect. He can throw whatever he's got at me
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and I'll still win because that's what I'm about. We're
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: doing it strong style.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Baby, I I like it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, do you want to go first?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: No? You please? Please, it's you.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Okay. I've been a little side note starting watching a
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: new anime. I mean you, but it's called JoJo's Bizarre Adventures.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I've heard OF's okay, yes, and.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I tell you it is the campiest shit of campias.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Like I cannot it is so campy. And it is
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: because like you have like this muscle bound man, and
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: every time there is an other muscle bound man, you
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: just know, oh, he's going to become important because he's
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: he's just so muscled. And also oftentimes make like this
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: somewhat feminine poses but are like oftentimes only have like
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: short shorts on, and like it is a lot, but
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I like it too. But so much of the show
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: hinges on well not so much hinges on the fact
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: of like, oh, we're gonna do a one on one
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: duel because it's the honorly thing, and like I have
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: like a hundred of my minions around, but we're gonna fight,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: and they will not intervene, you know, because it's a
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: mania thing to do, and it is so over the top,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: like so, and it's just camp and I see this
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: here as well. It is just I don't know, it
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: is a lot, definitely, but I feel like they know
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: it's a lot, and therefore I like it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: So that's why I see what you mean and like
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: it's definitely they're leaning into the goofiness here with the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: two of them, which, considering how overly serious some of
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the other fights are, I appreciate. Just as a break
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: from that, I would like to register once again how
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Zoro's fight this arc is so lame. I can't get
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: over how boring it is. The man who can cut
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: aim ountain in half fighting a mountain, you would think
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you could do a little bit more with that. But
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: this one with the two of them is some much
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: needed levity. And honestly, even though this doesn't make that
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: much sense to me, the two of them don't make
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense as people. So I'm willing to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: go with this in a way that I might not
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: have been willing to go with it if it were
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: set up with somebody else, you know, just the fact
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: that the two of them have reached a point where
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: they respect each other so much, despite the fact that
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: they are on opposite sides. I have always kind of
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: been a fan of that, you know, And the fact
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: it's very funny to me that this dude, senor Pink
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: is wearing a literal diaper, but he calls Frankie a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: pervert for being in his underwear, and I am just
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: like my guy. I don't know how to tell you
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: that dressing up as a whole baby is like a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: literal kink. Anybody who saw you would think that you
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: were the pervert out of the two of you passing
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: on the street, no contest that you would be the one,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: but not to kink shame, but like a little bit
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: kink shaming. I guess, yes, just a drop, and I'm
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: not mad about it. So other than that, though, they
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: seem to have a great respect for one another, and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: even like there's a point where he's going down memory
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Lane and Frankie just stops and is like, dude, what
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: is up with you? You're fucked up right now? What
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: is happening? And I just love that, Like Frankie is
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: sensitive to his opponent's mood and like emotional state, which
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: is extremely funny to me.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, they just get each other like yeah, yeah.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: So Frankie tells his the Tantata like, hey, guys, don't
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: worry about it. We'll definitely get you your freedom, but
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I am going to fight this my way, and you
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: just have to let these men deal with their men's fight.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: And the Tantanta get very emotional themselves. They call him Froland,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: which I don't feel like I had noticed in any
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: other episode that they call him that. It's like in
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: this episode it really I was noticing, but they just
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I kind of wanted the Tantanta to just be like,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: are you serious? Come on man. The fact that they
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: were all into it was fine, but I would have
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: liked at least one of them to look around at
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the other one's cheering and be like, I don't understand this.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Be over. Is that what you're telling me? And we're
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: still doing it? Like for reasons, I hate this, But
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: in this that F'ta seemed to be mostly a monolith.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: So that's fine, Yes, that's true. That's true. So this
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: is when Senor Pink is like, all right, I'm about
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to land on Anya and not a kiss, even though
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: that is what I wish. I am going to hit
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you with a shot that if you manage to survive
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: it without blocking, I will like concede the match. My
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: next move is going to settle this one. And hey, pervert,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: are you picking up what I'm throwing down? This is
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: when you start swimming through the floor at him, and
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: one of the women from the side is yelling like,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: how can you fight from so far away? Cup closer?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: And I was like, bitch, who are you? Get the
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: fuck out of here? How do you tell this man
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: how to fight his fight? How far away he is?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: You think he doesn't know he's far away for sure?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Nobody asked you.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. I like the animation that follows, like
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: of him like swimming and picking up Frankie.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: And it feels like a lot of speed building up.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: It is like greatly animated, and it conveys like the
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: power behind the attack.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I would, yeah, agree, yeah, because he goes straight up
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the side of a tower in the center of town
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: and he goes up toward the sky and says, that's
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: a mean looking sky today, don't you think. But if
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I can keep flying then maybe I can see my
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Russian and Frankie is just like Russian. And he says, yeah,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see my son Gimlet too, and correct
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. Is Russian dead? I thought she
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: was still alive.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, based on what he says here, I would
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: actually assume that she died.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: In the mean, that's what I was thinking, like, we
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: don't see her death, but no, talking about it like this,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: it felt like he was saying, I'll see them in heaven, right, like, Okay.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, she died, she passed away.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Okay. I am so curious why Oda chose the name
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Russian do anything on that?
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know, honestly, No. I also found it kind
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: of weird, but a part of me, actually, I don't know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I like it, you know, weird grade. But then again
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Paris or like I don't know, London, like some people
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: call their children like Paris.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I guess that's true. It's just a
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: different like she's not called Russia, she's called Russian, which
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I've never met a person just named French, you know,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, I'm not saying it's not out there,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: like probably every name is out there, but it's just
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: such a particular, you know, just a weird approach to it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I mean. Also could be like the language ship and
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: it's not the same, Like I mean, Russian.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Is yeah, the translation somehow is yeah basically.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: But then again I would say, like if it's like yeah,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Switzerland like well, I don't know, but but Russia and
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Russian I don't know. I also would say, do you
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: know the English world for Russia and can think of okay,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: would think, yeah, I don't feel like it is so
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I know, like this is a huge country, you know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: so yeah, yeah, maybe not, I don't know.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Saraphim says regarding the name, what we know is that
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Russian was an early draft name for Rebecca, so it
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: seems oda just reuse the name here instead. I'm wondering
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: if it were if Rebecca were named Russian, how I
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: would feel about her, If it would change at all,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I think I'd be even more disappointed. She deserves the
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: name Rebecca, a much more ordinary name.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Do you like it the name? Like, just give somebody
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: If you wouldn't meet somebody who is like, hey, my
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: name is Russian, you can't decide.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I really can't like my instinct had shorten it to Rush.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: But the only Rush I've ever heard of is Rush Limbaugh,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: who was a monstrous right wing radio host who sucked balls.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: So I would not like it shortened either. I really
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: can't decide if I would like it or not. Something
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: sort of grow on you, and like, I only learned
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: that this is her name this afternoon, so it hasn't
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: had enough time to simmer. Maybe I'll come around on it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Right now, I'm still just sort of.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Like, what, No, that's lovely The first ration I.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Had so as they are falling to the ground, Senor
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Pink says, your back is still regular flesh and blood, right,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: and Frankie says, ah, man, you figure that out. And
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: he says, all right, now, stop talking so that you
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: don't bite your tongue when you fall, and he yells,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Miao miao, Suplex baby buster and just plummets him into
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: the ground. I don't know, I'll be honest, is the
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: technique the first part? Or is the technique name the
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: second part and the first part is like a version
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: of the technique.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like this is even though, because I like.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Suplex was just it. But then he says babybuster, and
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, there's another part to this. I
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: don't know, but he makes a crater basically in the
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: street and then he comes up out of the ground
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: no problem. And Frankie is over there literally with like
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: smoke coming off him, not looking too good. Frankly pun intended,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry everybody in my apologies, and as Senor
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Pink is looking at him, we start to go into
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: our flashback moment and he like, let's see, I'm trying
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: to find the exact spot where this happens because he
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: turns his back on Frankie and the fact that Frankie
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: is able to stand up is yeah, as far as
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: he had said, this was it right. If you can
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: survive this, I concede the fight.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: But he said, like you, I get to attack you,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: and you get to attack me, like without dodging, without
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: what's it called protecting, Like that both get like an
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: attack that is full on force out and you just
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: take it.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I was sworn that he said, if you can withstand this,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: then you win. I could have sworn, oh, well, okay,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: so yeah, you're right. Terminator like with Frankie because of
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: his like red I didn't like when I saw his face.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I knew it reminded me of something, but I didn't
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: stop and like think about what it was. But that's
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent what it is. That's kind of fun.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised it took this long for like a terminator reference,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So Frankie begins to punch
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: at him, very very very very aggressively, and this punch
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: he calls like a rain of punches, and then it
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: causes him to think about the rain that was happening
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: the night that he first met Russian. And so then
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: we go into the little love story that happened. It's
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: a meet cute where we're caught in the rain. We
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: both have to duck under an awning to get out
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: of it for a second. And the woman who has
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: ducked out of the rain is very much like as
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: somebody who is optimistic tastes you in a lot of things.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: And the fact that she says, like, I actually like
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: the rain, it feels really nice. Obviously this speaks to
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: him on some particular level and gets his attention. And uh,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I liked the fact that she is drawn a little
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: bit differently then a lot of the women have been
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: so far in this show, like her nose is a
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: much more distinctive shape, her lips are not done up
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: with like lipstick. She's got like kind of a more
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: plain makeup list. Look, I mean, she do have giant titties,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: but it seems like that's just sort of how it be.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: And she asks him, like, don't you love it too?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: And she looks over at him and it's like when
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: he is looking at her, clear she hasn't chanted him
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: in this moment absolutely, So then they go on a date.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: This was so funny to me. Yeah, my impression because
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: like what he says is tell me what you don't like.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: So my impression is they've been talking for half an
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: hour and she has not had like one negative thing
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: to say about anything. That he is basically like, you
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like everything, what tell me like one thing that you
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: don't like? And we don't actually see that conversation. So
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I'm making that up, but I feel pretty confident about it,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: to be honest. And it takes her a second and
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: then she says, oh, pirates hate him to death, so
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: what do you do? And he is just sweating that
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: anime what And honestly the fact that so he decides
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: to why to her about what he does and marry
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: her and keep this lie going in their marriage. Also,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: he tells her he's a banker. I am so sorry,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: but if you are a pirate and I'm assuming are
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: on the high seas a good amount, what do you
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: say you are doing for the bank in this capacity?
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: What excuses is he giving her about where he goes?
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: What ardor called in Game of Thrones there comes somebody
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: to the wall abravosi or like wait like in Game
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: of Thrones, Yeah, from the bank to the wall and talk.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: John oh tychonostauris.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know the name from the Iron Bank? Yeah,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: what would you call like this occupation? Basically that is
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: what he's doing.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: He Yeah, I think Tychonostaurus was like a broker for
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: like loans, like he was a loans officer. I think
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: maybe that Okay, It just like I wouldn't have minded
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit more about how exactly he lies to her,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I would just sort of
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind it feeling like she asks questions and
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: he keeps building on the lie, because that's the part
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: for me that would be so devastating when you have
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: a relationship. If you start with a lie, you not
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: only have to continue that, but you now have to
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: create a whole fake world around that lie. And so
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: once you discover the lie, everything surrounding it gets called
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: into question, and that becomes something that you can get
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: very obsessed with. It's like, oh, I believed all of
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: these things, but if you told me that one thing
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: isn't true, then maybe none of these other things are true.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: It's just out of just personal curiosity. It's not like
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: a big deal or anything. But so, yeah, him saying
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: a banker, it's like we go straight into them getting married,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: her getting pregnant, and we have like putts here and
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: there to him out with the pirates basically murdering people
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: left and right in the most cavalier doesn't even feel
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: like an adequate word. It's like it feels like how
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: people just do finger guns, you know, like just there's
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: no real direction. There doesn't seem to be a threat
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: that he's fighting back against. It just feels and we
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: don't actually really see that many people go down. We
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: see him firing a lot more than we see people dying,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: which I have to assume is on purpose, because how
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: would we continue to feel for him if we really
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: saw what a murderer he was.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: He gave to me, like I don't know, a photo shoot,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: you know, like now we have these well dressed men,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: we've a gun, and we take some photos while it
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: looks like that he's shooting people.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's funny. Yeah, So he rushes back
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: at one point, gets there after she has given birth
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: and we see his little baby that She asks him
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: what we should name it, and he says, he looks
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: like a gimlet, which I only know a gimblet as
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: like a drink, like a vodka gimlet. Okay, have you
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: ever heard of this? No, I'm gonna look it up
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: because I feel like it has lime in it or something.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the gimlet is a cocktail made out of
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: gin and lime cordial. Okay, that sounds delicious. Actually, Hi, yeah.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: It looks I think I would drink it. I mean,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I hope it's not too bitter because of that, like
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: bitter drinks.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: It seems like it's a lot of roses lime juice,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: which is sweetened lime juice. So I would assume it's
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: not bitter because those are pretty intensely sweet.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think get behind it anyway. I hate
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: this name.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Why do you hate it?
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I can get Russian was like okay,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: and it grew on me personally over time. But Gimlet,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I'm just like always like, eh, like it sounds like
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know, dirt or it mostly reminds me of
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: a draw like the I don't know, from the Hobbit
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: or something, you know where Gimli.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is that what you're thinking of?
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And I also don't like the name Gimili. I
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: don't know, not for me, I get it.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really funny though, because like it's just interesting
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: the way that we react to names and how like
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: strongly we'll feel about them. And it's just like noises,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, we're just like, I hate that noise.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Stop it now, which I respect your hatred of Gimblet
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: is valid, but I do want to try this drink though.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. No, Gimli is okay, but Gimlet just
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: like what the are we doing? I'm sorry, but gladly
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: he does not have to grow up with his name.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's fucked up, Florian, but I'll let him
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: pass okay, I'm sorry. So we have him like getting
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the baby bonnet and stuff as a gift for his
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: wife and her being very excited. And then one day
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: she wakes up and the baby's crying, and she runs
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: into the living room and this dude has fucking left
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: without even saying anything to her, so abruptly that there's
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: literally a steaming cup of coffee still sitting on the table.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: This for me, was beyond the pale. Look, it is
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: one thing to be a murderer and a pirate. Okay, fine,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: but you just leave your home and your wife and
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: child without so much as a I'll see you in
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: two days. Are you fucking serious right now? That's insane
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: behavior to me. He like, just the fact that he
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: is lying so much about what he does to begin with,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I would think that he would go all the harder
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: on his goodbyes, on trying to make things seem more legitimate,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So oh, Seraphim says, I
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: never read it. As he ran off with that, telling
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: her she knew he was off on a business trip.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: She literally says, where is he? Where did daddy go?
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: She says to her son. She runs into the room
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: saying like, where are you, like asking for help because
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: the baby's crying and she doesn't know what to do.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: And there's like coffee or something there. Yeah, yeah, it
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: seems like he just went up and left, like God,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: got the call from Dophie and was like, oh to go.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So she's trying to comfort the baby and we
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: get a smash cut to a story night where he
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: finally comes home and she is just sitting in the
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: room looking at the photo of her son, and he
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: drops the bouquet of flowers that he had brought her
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: and says Gimblet is dead. And she says, a week
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: ago today, the same day you disappeared, he came down
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: with a sudden fever. I rushed him to the hospital,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: but he didn't make it. So yeah, the way that
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: she says the same day you disappeared, that does not
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: sound to me like she knew he was going at all.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: That sounds very much like fuck you. You didn't even
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: say anything. But it doesn't really matter in the end,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: And this is when she says, I called the bank
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: over and over trying to find you, and you lied.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: They told me you were never employed there. Tell me
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the truth. What do you really do for a living,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: where did the money come from? And he won't tell her.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: And he also, I have to add, never ever puts
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: out his cigarette, not for a moment. This man needs
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: to put down his cigarette in this moment, when he
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: has found out his child is dead and his wife
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: is confronting him about his lie, standing there with his
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: cigarette in his mouth and his hands in his pockets.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: It is not giving that he gives a shit at
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: all about any of this, Like it is almost past.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Like what it's like somebody took a cutout of soany
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: and put him in there and she's just crying over
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: the like cardboard cutout of him.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I need you to like have any reaction, sir, Oh
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: my god.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: It truly is like I feel like he is fully starboard,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: like because as you said, like he does not answer her.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: But I can forgive him that in the sense not
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: in this moment, because first thing, your son is dead.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Second thing, what is your job like that you don't
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: make like that connection like basically that your brain can
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: process that far? I can give it to him. Yeah,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: the secret. Yeah, I feel like it's all of not
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: me being analyzing this was high literature, but he just
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: created this perfect family and home and now it's kind
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: of like in shambles, and he don't know how to
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: react at all, so he just stands there in his
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: default position.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Basically, I just really the way that she's finally like,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm out If there was if this
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: scene had played out any differently, I would have been
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: very much raising an eyebrow at her just running out
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: into a storm in a forest. But frankly, if he
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: responded the way that he has here to me, I
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: also don't think I could be in the same house
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: with this man. I would have to go like it
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: would be the sort of thing where I get angry
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: enough that I'm like, I might hurt him. I need
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: to remove myself from the situation. I am so angry
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: that I might do something very dramatic right now. So
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: let me do something very dramatic in a different way
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: and run out into this storm in the middle of
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: the night in just my like sun dress or whatever.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: And he tries to follow her, grab her by the shoulder,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: showing some emotion. Finally, she turns around and decks him
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: across the face, and then he says, you don't understand
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: there's a reason that I can't tell you the truth.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: And I was just like it flashes back to her
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: saying Pirates, I hate him to death, which it was
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: funny to me that we needed that flashback because that
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: literally happened like three minutes earlier. But okay, and the
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: fact that it's like, well, you said you hated Pirates,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: so I couldn't tell you. You know, that's not like
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: a reason not to tell her, right, Like he's acting
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: like if you just understood that I do the thing
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: that you hate, you would understand. But like, that's not
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: the issue, my guy. It's that you are the thing
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: that she hates, which is she hates it for a
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: good reason because we just saw how you're out here
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: just mowing people down with what appears to be like
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: a flintlock pistol. So I don't know how that works.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: But just the whole it was reminding me of have
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: you ever watched The Sopranos.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: No, okayiens, It's one of those shows where it's an
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: excellent show, but I don't really like tend to recommend
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: it much because it's so bleak.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: It's just about bad people, and Succession was also about
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: bad people, and I loved that, but it felt much
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: more like it was kind of a self parody a
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: little bit. But there is a scene eventually where Tony
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: and Carmela, the main character and his wife. She has
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: been confronted in a way that she cannot ignore about
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: what he really does for a living, that he's a mobster,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: has been involved in bad shit, and it's a really
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: interesting fight because, like he basically insinuates that she fucking
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: had to have known and just looked the other way,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: because you aren't the kind of woman that would be
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: satisfied with a Hyundai and a little gold heart on
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: a chain. And essentially you took all of the like
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: the incredible, uh, what's the word advantages of my job
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: and never really asked any questions because you knew better
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: than to ask questions because you suspected something about this
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't right and didn't want to know. And now it's
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: in your face and you can pretend to be mad
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: at me, but I'm not fucking buying it. There is
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: no way that you weren't at least partially aware of
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: what I was into. Don't fucking pretend. And I kind
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: of want to say that here but that's like obviously
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: not true. She had no idea. If this were written
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: in a different way, it would feel like, come on, lady,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: you like the whole time that you guys have been
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: together and had a kid, you have never noticed that
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: shit is not really lining up, you know, But it
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: really does seem like they have only been together at
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: least a year based on the kid, I think you
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: could maybe get away with this lie for a year.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: I think you could probably pull that off.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: We don't get a lot on her, but I wouldn't
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: say Russian necessarily is depicted as super smart.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: No, true, She's more.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Depicted as like as you said before, like joys and
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: like sees the good in things. I feel like, yeah, yeah,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: that's what we get from her, or at least I
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: got from her, which makes it also sad, Like I y,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: I not a parent and probably never really be. But
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: just like your kid is screaming and you take the
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: temperature and it's like above, like it is so high
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: the fuck up? Like what you do? Like of course,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: like like she says she went to the hospital and
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: everything and still it ended up. How like that must
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: be devastating, Like yeah, all of a sudden out of nowhere.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: It seems like your kid is going to die and
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: your young mother and this scenario alone, like that sounds horrible.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really the idea of going through something like
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: that alone is the part, Like, you know, the only
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: frame of reference that I have whenever kids come up
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: is my dog's and going through anything with one of
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: them if my husband wasn't around, was really scary and
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: really hard. And I can't imagine when it's like your
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: child that you made together. So yeah, and the fact
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: that by the time he comes home, the kid's been
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: dead a week. She's been in mourning for her child
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: for a week all alone, and found out in the
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: midst of this grief that he's a huge liar that
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: has been lying yites Like, yeah, that is fucking devastating,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: And we have the U jump to the next morning
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: where he is coming home, clearly having been out in
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: the rain in the woods all night, just coming home
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: now that it's getting light out and the phone is
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: ringing and it's the hospital to tell him that she
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: is in a persistent vegetative state persistent, Yeah, and doesn't
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: respond to anything, and they think that it's the trauma
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: and that she basically like had a mental break. And
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: it's weird because like a vegetative state does not involve
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: a human being sitting perfectly straight up with like absolutely
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: immaculate posture. Usually so that I find a bizarre way
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: to do things here I could have. I really think
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: that maybe just having her in a bed that's tilted
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: up a little bit so that she's sort of sitting,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: you could have accomplished the same thing. Having her sitting
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: up like that is a really really weird uh choice,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know. Oh, Seraphim says the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: dub set that it was trauma. The sub was that
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: she got caught in a mud slide due to the rain.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Hold on, that's really different, Like there have been times
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: where things don't line up, but there's never been a
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: total difference like that that I remember, Because like, how
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: would the mud slide have even done this to her?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: A mudslide causing her to be like awake with her
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: eyes open but unresponsive. I don't even know how that
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: would work.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Depends if she like got hit on the head really
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: how like a mudslide. Then you're just like I guess
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: I would say it's not impossible, but I was a
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: love the doctor.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, ha, I wonder why it's so different with both
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know, I mean I also when I
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: think of this, I also think of the mud slide thing.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: So that's the thing that I have remembered. At least, I'm.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Going to go back and just make sure. Let's see,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: your wife is in critical condition. Oh no, she was
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: trapped under a landslide during the storm. I totally miss that.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: You guys are right, she was trapped un her landside.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: During a story. She's awake but unresponsive, and this is
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: when he says the vegetative state. The trauma has left
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: her with no signs of awareness, and I'm afraid she
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: may never recover. You guys, I totally like slid right
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: past that landslide pun intended, and just went right to
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: him saying the trauma. So I thought he met the
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: trauma of like just like emotional things that she just
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: went through, which in retrospect doesn't make any sense because
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: why would he know about that? But that was definitely
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: how I took it the first time. Oh okay, Even so,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: her being sitting up is really weird.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that sitting up is weird. That is. I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: don't know, just the choice of what those parts I
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: guess yeah, oh no the part I I I what
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: do want to say? This is kind of like where
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: he of course is in morning and he tries like
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: we see like the seasons go by in the windows
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: behind them, just to show time passes.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Then one day he's like in the street and sees
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: the it's called a bonnet. Yeah yeah, and he just
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: buys it and goes to her with it and puts
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: it on. Did you did you think like it would
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: work or like, did you think anything would happen? Or
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: did you think nothing will happen?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I really didn't, Like I felt silly once I when
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: she smiled and I was like, oh, that's what it is.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: But I like, obviously he puts it on, and I'm like,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: well I know that this is his thing later, so
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: where is this coming from? But I wasn't thinking how
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: it would work, and I really mostly is what he
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: does is he puts it on, and then he's like,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: don't I look like gimlet? And I was like, bro,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: this is a fucked up thing to do, Like, hey,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, and then ask if I look
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: like our dead son, Like it just felt to me
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: like almost cruel, you know, but also I never gone
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: through something like this, so it might be comforting. I
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: don't know. And then he says like, Okay, sorry, that
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: was a really bad joke. I don't know what I
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: was thinking. And he starts to take it off, and
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, good, I don't know what you were thinking either, dude,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: and then she smiles a little bit and I was like, oh, oh,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: that's what it is. And so Bro basically like completely
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: goes off the deep end with dressing like a baby
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: from here on out. We go into the next episode
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: and he has strolled into the hospital in the full
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: on get up that he is wearing later, and everybody
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: is just like, that is not cool, dude, why are
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: you dressed like this? You can't just walk around like that,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: and he is very much who gonna check me? Boo you?
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: I don't see it. I am walking past you now.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Oh look I'm in her room. I guess I can
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: just walk around like this.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: And I don't think that's his intent, but has its
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: own kind of hotness, like just don't care, be yourself.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: There's something to it. So I can see why the
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: ladies in the present. Some ladies are like falling for it.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: I can see it.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I definitely like because it was just so weird to
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: begin with. And I'm not sure if those ladies know
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: his backstory and why he's doing this.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, I don't think.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: If I didn't know that, I could do that I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: could be cool with it. I have to know, so
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know what their position is on this. Maybe
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: maybe it's simply he's doing something weird and doesn't care,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: and that's what I like. For me, it's he's doing
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: something weird for a very specific emotional reason, and that's
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: what's attractive to me. But I could also get feeling
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter. I just like counterculture guy, because yeah,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: we see him getting like harassed by everybody in the street.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: He gets given a hard time by practically every person
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: he passes, and could not care less. He just could
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: not give fewer shits. And he comes into her room
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: with his bouquet of flowers and she gives him like
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: a tiny little smile and it is clear that this
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: is a rap on him ever wearing regular clothes. Again,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: that little response that's enough, And we see him at
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: home with his closet full of designer suits and just
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: pushing all of them aside to dress up like this
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: yet again. And even when people are like making fun
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: of him and stuff, he's actually still smiling because what
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: they're saying just does not touch him. No, not at all.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: It's great. I love it. It is.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, let's talk about this multiple things. Is this
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like he does this for Russian but I
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: also feel like this is like it's the word penance
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: the right man. Yeah, definitely, Like, yes, it does not
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: touch him, but he kind of also is aware of it,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know if that's true, but or how
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: do you say? See? Because I feel like it is
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: also like I did a bad thing I deserved this
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: is a little bit there, But I don't know if
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: I'm reading into this too much.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: I could see that it didn't occur to me. But
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: when you say it, I'm like, okay, no, that would
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: make some sense of like feeling such guilt that humiliating
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: yourself feels like you're making up for it a little bit. Yeah,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: I like that as a motivator. That works. It's and
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: it would make sense why he's just continuing to do
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: this even now after she is presumably dead, because he
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: can't let go of the guilt, you know, And we
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: have him telling her like this outfit is worth more
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: than the finest suit, and he puts his hand over
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: hers and she smiles at him a little bit more
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: like we're getting more of a response from her by
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: this point, and then when we come to the present,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: he is saying, the only time you smile for me
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: anymore is when I wear this, And it sounded like
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: he was saying it to himself in the present, but
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: it's the voiceover, I think from him talking to her.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: It's a little hard to tell because and that's why
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: I got a little confused about like whether she was
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: still around or not, because, like I said, we don't
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: have like a death scene. And even though he isn't
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: his mouth isn't moving in the present because he's getting
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: the ship punched out of him. We have frequently had
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: characters their mouths aren't moving, We're just hearing their internal monologue,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: you know. So that's what I kind of thought, was
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: him in the presence saying the only time you smile
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: for me anymore is when I wear this, Like because
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: he's still wearing it, so it could have been our
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: current state. Still, you know, I guess what you mean.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: So we have him like flying across town basically because
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: he gets punched so hard that he goes. It seems
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: like he takes quite a long trip in how far
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: he flies away from Frankie's fist and his sunglasses shatter,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: and he says something like, it seems like the rain
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: you liked so much has finally stopped, and the clouds
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: part and we have this stream of sunlight coming down
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: and then he gasps, and we get this like montage
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: of her and him overlaid on the sky, and I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: couldn't tell. It felt like it was him dying, you
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, I know what you like. It
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: felt like he was saying, Okay, I'm done and out
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: of here with you. I can't tell if that's just
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: really going on, like if he's feeling like he's communing
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: with her or what. Frankie walks up to him and
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: sees that he's crying, and this is when he's like,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: what is making you hurt like that? Dude? Like you
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: are a mess, and he wipes the tears away from
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: his eyes in this very like delicate manner with his
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: giant robot fingers, and so in Your Pink is just
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: on the ground chilling with his arms still crossed by
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: the way guys, of course, So Frankie assumes that it's
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: about a woman, and it's just like, if we ever
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: meet again, you gotta tell me what that's about. And
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: then he goes over to the tantata and tells them,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: all right, guys, go do your thing. And I could
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: not help but laugh because it felt very much like
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: they could have been doing their thing this whole time.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: They did not need to sit here as spectators for
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: this whole fight.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Well when you absolutely but if you remember, it was
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: first they were fucking the factory up, then the manager
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: came out with your vacuum. Then Frankie showed up, and
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: then Senor pinc suret. So that was kind of like
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: why they all were watching, okay, And so basically they
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: were like, we cannot fight unless these fight is over.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know they could have done it.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: They really could have though, Yeah it's fine.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Frankie falls down as they rush in. Just
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: shout out to Frankie. He's like a little bit overlooked sometimes,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: but I love him great, great, Strawhead.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Agreed one of the m vps. I was really I
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: was looking for a Frankie Wanted poster when I went
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: to that pop up one piece place in Houston, and
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: the only ones they had it was the Sunny as
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: the face of the poster, and I didn't buy it
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: because I want Frankie's face and I don't know why
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have his face on it, if that's like
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: a thing in the show that I have missed that
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: they haven't been able to get his photo for some
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: reason or something. But yeah, when because I was really
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: excited when I saw the name, and then I pulled
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: it out and I saw that it was just the
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: Sonny and I was like, oh, I don't, well, that's
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: not really what I wanted.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: So clear, I know we don't have a lot of
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: time left, but I still would like we're just here.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on this section? I mostly here
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: for this And you said in the beginning, you said, like,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: maybe your favorite character is Seniel Pink. Can you like
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: tell me more about death?
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: I like it's it's really at this point between him
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: and Bartolomeo, because Bartolomeo is just so like irresistibly adorable fanboy,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: you know, but s Pink just comes on the scene
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere so fucking weird and then having like
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: and I will never ever recover from him ripping off
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: a girl's bikini top to wipe his mouth. That is,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, one of the most effective and memorable
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: introductions to any character we ever got. And you just
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: see his face close up and you just have this
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: assumption about what he looks like, and then when the
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: camera pulls out and you see what he's wearing, it
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: all just doesn't go together at all. So and again
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I just assumed this is one piece people are weirdos, Okay,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: I guess he's a baby man like. I don't know.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: I just took it as that, you know, and finding
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: out that there's actually reasons for that, and that it's
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: like a lot of you know, guilt, and that he
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: used to be very fashionable and cared about clothes and
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: set that aside. All of this is it just it
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: very much appeals to me in a like exciting surprise
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: backstory way, which frankly, like Barcelo, mao, we don't even
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: get that much backstory on him. All we see in
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: his past is that he loved the straw Hats as
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: soon as he heard about them and then got obsessed
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: and that was his whole life. And you know, he
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: had his own pirates, but like just kind of to
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: meet the straw Hats. It wasn't even really like he
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: wanted to do his own things so much. So in
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: a way, since your pink edges him out a little
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: bit because his backstory is richer. And also just like
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: his lines are so over dramatic and noir, you know,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: and that is really really fun. So he might be
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: my favorite. It really is tough to say. I feel
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: like whatever episod so what I watch, if they were
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: in it, they will be my favorite until the next
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: time I watch an episode with the other one in it.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Absolutely fair, I no, I just wanted to hear it
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: because I was wondering because like, oh, the favorite interesting,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: not totally not like surprised or anything, because yes, he
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: deservably I would give him that spot. But yeah, you
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: were like such a bartle you like you were the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: fan pole. You are the fanboy of Bartolomeo's fanboy, you know.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely also super fair.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: I love Bartolomeo. He's great.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: I'm so like gratified by the fact that when we
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: first meet him, even though he's being a dick, I
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: was still sort of like, I don't know, I kind
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: of like him. And then it turns out like there's
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: other reasons actually that you can like him that are legit,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: so just wait for those. Yeah, I really like, I
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: don't know what to hope for because I feel like
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: this arc ends and then maybe we don't see them
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: that much for a while and that makes me sad.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they'll be around. I don't know.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have like Law, It's also has been
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: now around for like two arcs, so who knows. VV
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: was also another stayed around it, so there's potential. There's possibility,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: but most people don't like with most characters, this does
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: not happen.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we will see.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: I know we don't have a lot of time left,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: but honestly, you have said everything that this needs to
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: be said about Currs, about Rebecca, about what's his name, Diamanthe,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: which is like the next half episode. Is there anything
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: out of this that you want to talk about?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: I love it. You're basically like, we can pretty much
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: skip this right, and I am fully on that like
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: there's nothing like the only thing is that Diamante does
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: this ridiculously over the top attack. I can't get over
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: how much everybody is just making attacks that would kill
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: everyone within like a four mile radius, and they just
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: don't care about passers by fucking innocent bystanders at all.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, this rain of like spiky stars that falls down, sir,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: I am going to need you to fucking it's just
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: and he assumes that they're all dead. Rebecca gets saved
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: by Robin again, and then Kiros is just out here
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: like hitting them with his sword and managing to like
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: get them all to a fall away from him, which
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: I will say, it was funny when ty Monte is
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: just like what and actually says I think he just says, wow,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: he admits he's impressed, which was kind of funny to me.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: We did get a reminder about like Rebecca her mother
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: being the reason why she's so determined to be a pacifist,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: which I didn't even really remember that well, and so
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: her father is determined for her to like keep the
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: spirit of her mother alive by never having to be violent.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: I think the reminder helped a little with me being
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: really annoyed by this, but it's honestly kind of too
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: late now. I feel like the emphasis on what her
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: mother taught her was not emphasized enough throughout other episodes.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: I really think that if this was going to be
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: more satisfying, we should have seen her struggling to want
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: to hurt people and resisting because of her mother and
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: trying to keep make her mother proud and taking hits
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: that she could have avoided for her mother's sake, and
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: then maybe I would care more about this. But it
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: just really comes across as like she boring.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: You know it is. I mean, I'm just gonna say it,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: and I feel like it sums it up. Is wasted potential,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: and I feel like that is that is why this
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: part of the story is kind of infuriating. I feel
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: like it comes down to that, because you just came
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: up with another thing I can. I can tell you
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: like ten things that I think about would be more
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: interesting or cooler anything. Yeah, literally anything. And that is
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: kind of a shame about this character because I again potential.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: I wish to be more for her, you know, to
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: be there more for her, but there's just this so.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, but yeah, that's about it with them,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: So I think we're done talking about them. That's fine.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly you have talked enough about that. Yeah, I see.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: We had enough time for like one episode and a
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: half and filled the whole time, so it's fine.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: See it works out absolutely.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: And I could talk about in depth about the fabulous,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: outstanding sendor Pink because he deserves it.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Ah, send your pink, wake up and go have a coffee. No,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Go have like a whiskey straight up
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: with Frankie. Please, that's all I want. H All right, Florien,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me. This is delightful
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: it was. Is there anything else that you want to
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: say before we wrap this up?
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: I don't anything in particular enjoying that you're still enjoyed.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: I was kind of worried that you would not enjoy
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: like this portion of the arc so much and you
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: but you said it yourself that like the side characters actually,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: so there are always some that are interesting, you know,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: like Meal or like Baby five. You know, like there
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: are things that you can enjoy in these episodes. And
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: I'm really happy about that because that that was my
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: wory in this arc, that there would be stretches where
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: you would be like totally interested. Yeah, but I'm happy
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: to see that that's not the case.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I've been really happy with this one.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: It's so funny because, you know, hearing it was the
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: longest arc, I was like, oh boy, I don't know.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's part of why I'm enjoying it is that
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: I was like geared up for it to be really tedious,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: and so it just was a pleasant surprise that it wasn't.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: But either way, I'm having a really good time, so
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to, uh to what comes next. All Right, Well,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: thank you so much. I really appreciate you being here.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: This is always fun to have you on and everybody listening.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: I hope they enjoyed the show, and forgive me for
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: not watching the third episode, but I think it's fine,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: And until next time to the li motherfuckers. That was
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: an Unspoiled Network podcast.