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Empower U - October 9th - Hunter Oswald · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: I'm a shutdown the events of the day, Portland, Chicago
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  Speaker 1: to welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning Show Man.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be speaking tonight. Empower You America dot
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  Speaker 1: you're first going to hear I think first from Monty Lobb,
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  Speaker 1: who's the executive director of the Christian Business Partnership which
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  Speaker 1: does some advocacy and education work on celebrating the sacred
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  Speaker 1: idea of religious liberty and Christian employers in their workplace.
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  Speaker 1: But you're the keynote speaker tonight, Hunter Oswald. Who's joining
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  Speaker 1: me this morning or joining us this morning? Philimbeth Gayzwick's
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  Speaker 1: development fellow and research fellow with the American Spectator. You
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  Speaker 1: can find them on mine at Spectator dot or read
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  Speaker 1: what they have to say. You'll be glad you did.
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  Speaker 1: He contributes articles there on the ground and does some
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  Speaker 1: on the ground reporting. He's also written for a variety
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  Speaker 1: of other outlets. In addition to writing, he served as
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  Speaker 1: the Institute for Faith and Freedom student fellow and Conservative
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  Speaker 1: Thought where he researched religious terrorism and insurgency across the world.
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  Speaker 1: That topic's not gone away and the importance in addressing
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  Speaker 1: national security matters. Tonight an important conversation. He'll be speaking
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  Speaker 1: about the future of gen Z conservatism. Hunter Oswald, Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the Morning Show. It's a pleasure to have you
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  Speaker 1: on today.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's break down these Okay, boomers are nineteen
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  Speaker 1: forty six to sixty four. Welcome to me. I'm the
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  Speaker 1: first year of jen X sixty five to eighty. The
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  Speaker 1: millennials were born eighty one and ninety six, so gen
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  Speaker 1: Z is nineteen ninety seven to twenty twelve, making the
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  Speaker 1: folks that you're talking about thirteen to twenty eight years old.
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  Speaker 1: This is the future of America in politics, is it not?
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  Speaker 2: It is. In fact, gen Z has been really taken
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  Speaker 2: in American politics since really the twenty twenty four election.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to go even farther back
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  Speaker 2: to twenty twenty, but twenty twenty four, this past election cycle,
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  Speaker 2: we really saw major shifts in gen Z when it
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  Speaker 2: came to who voted for who, because traditionally speaking, gen
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  Speaker 2: Z has always been perceived as way more progressive that
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  Speaker 2: than people thought. Yes, but when twenty twenty four had
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  Speaker 2: twenty four, we saw Trump game six percent of that
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  Speaker 2: vote compared to twenty twenty. So we are definitely seeing
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  Speaker 2: gen Z as having a major hold in American politics
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  Speaker 2: as of now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're following this quite closely. What do you hear
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  Speaker 1: from the I'll call them converts. You know, he who
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  Speaker 1: is not from the left as a youth has no heart.
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  Speaker 1: He who is not from the right as an adult
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  Speaker 1: has no brain. Obviously they're waking up at a much
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  Speaker 1: younger age. What's driving this more conservative shift? Hunter?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what if they who driving this shift is
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  Speaker 2: the combination of stuff and one of them is what
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  Speaker 2: we are definitely seeing is somewhat of a religious revival
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  Speaker 2: in America that is taking more a traditional approach to issues,
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  Speaker 2: whether that's on abortion, transgenderism, all the more social issues.
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  Speaker 2: We are definitely seen amongst gen Z. But also I
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  Speaker 2: would say one of the things as a gen Z
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  Speaker 2: individual myself is just the major skepticism of our institutions.
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  Speaker 2: And people are like, okay, Hunter or gen Z, why
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  Speaker 2: are you say skeptical? Well, basically since the day we're born,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to really get like you said nineteen
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  Speaker 2: ninety seven and for me like two thousand and one,
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  Speaker 2: gepticism is kind of part of our nature. Where you've
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  Speaker 2: had politicians from say right and left or really Democrat
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  Speaker 2: Republican that have told us, hey, if you do certain things,
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  Speaker 2: we'll give you this and that, and we haven't seen anything.
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  Speaker 2: We've been told everything, we've been promised everything, and none
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  Speaker 2: of that's happened. So there is certainly a skepticism within
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  Speaker 2: gen Z towards intutions like Congress, the presidency, and even
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  Speaker 2: the Spring Court, and that has translated into a approach
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  Speaker 2: that seeks, hey, why do we want to give more
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  Speaker 2: power over to these institutions that have lied to us, yes,
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  Speaker 2: and that's also been a major driver towards conservative and
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  Speaker 2: also just the simple desire for truth. We've been told
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  Speaker 2: to think a certain way, you know, not to question
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  Speaker 2: our folks in the classroom, and then when we try
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  Speaker 2: to actually have a discussion about issues, we are actually
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  Speaker 2: diving in these issues way more than people anticipated. We
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  Speaker 2: want the truth and we don't want these institutions to
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  Speaker 2: say you're going to think a certain way or else.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting, and I suspect that, I know one
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  Speaker 1: of the one of the things you're going to be
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  Speaker 1: talking about, and in addition to the meanior conservatism, talking
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  Speaker 1: about what issues are really critical to this movement, but
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  Speaker 1: the role of technology. I mean, I'm in that and
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  Speaker 1: that that that generation hunter that. But if you really
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  Speaker 1: wanted to pay attention to politics, you had to subscribe
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  Speaker 1: to magazines, you know, like The New Republic or Atlantic,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, subscribe to major newspapers. You had to
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  Speaker 1: get a copy of the Wall Street Journal. You had
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  Speaker 1: to watch the McNeil LAIRR News Hour on Sundays if
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  Speaker 1: you wanted any substantive conversation. So it was easy to
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  Speaker 1: gloss over it. We have the internet, welcome to reality
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  Speaker 1: in this modern day and age. And I suspect because
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  Speaker 1: kids spend young people, I would argue, spend a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time on social media, they're actually engaging in political
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  Speaker 1: discourse and following the issues that are impacting them. It's
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  Speaker 1: created a wonderful opportunity for them to educate themselves in
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  Speaker 1: spite of what the left wants to how they want
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  Speaker 1: to control them.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely. Yeah, I mean one of the jokes we say
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  Speaker 2: about gen Z as generation Zoomer because we are the
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  Speaker 2: digital kids. You know, you had your millennials prior that
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  Speaker 2: were like, Okay, we're finally getting the Internet. But then
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  Speaker 2: now the gen Z my group is now signed. We
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  Speaker 2: have social media. We have way more platforms to engage
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  Speaker 2: people in ways that I don't think many of us
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  Speaker 2: original thought could be even possible. And that's why you're
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  Speaker 2: seeing a lot of people on social media, whether that's x, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok,
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  Speaker 2: all those platforms right now are being used to spread
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  Speaker 2: more information than I think anybody could imagine. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's also where the rise of conservatives is, just the
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  Speaker 2: fact that social media is offering an alternative to the
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  Speaker 2: mainstream indeed, you can actually have You can actually have
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  Speaker 2: discourse without major networks studying it down overnight and saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: if you have the wrong opinion, you can't say this. Well, no,
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  Speaker 2: we want a platform, and these alternative media is providing
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  Speaker 2: that platform for gen Z.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, unlimited amount of material, and we get to be
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  Speaker 1: our own editor in terms of what material we choose
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  Speaker 1: to consume and digest. We're not being dictated to by
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  Speaker 1: some behind the scenes person and some probably left leaning
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  Speaker 1: network who's picking and choosing what information to feed us.
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  Speaker 1: It's all out there for anybody who chooses to want
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  Speaker 1: to go after it. I gotta hit on something, Hunter,
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  Speaker 1: as I want to ask you this directly because I
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  Speaker 1: think it is probably, if not the one of the
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  Speaker 1: primary mechanisms for this awakening young people are having, and
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  Speaker 1: this rejection of leftist ideology. And you mentioned it before,
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  Speaker 1: this idea that we need to accept someone's personal choice
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  Speaker 1: on what gender they are. Now, I don't care personally
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  Speaker 1: that there are transgenders in the world. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: can live under that umbrella as long as you're not
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  Speaker 1: forcing me to say out loud that yes, they are
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  Speaker 1: indeed a sex, that they're not born with I'm a
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  Speaker 1: purist when it comes to medicine X and y X
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  Speaker 1: and a X determined your sex period, end of story.
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  Speaker 1: You want to believe you're somebody else, hey, go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: But you can't force me to say you're a woman
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  Speaker 1: if you're a guy, and you shouldn't be allowed in
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  Speaker 1: a female locker room if you're a guy. There's a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot of risk that goes along with that. Is
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  Speaker 1: that as prominent a reason for this conservative shift as
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of perceiving it to be, because it's like
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  Speaker 1: the biggest batcrap insane element out there, almost on the
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  Speaker 1: life inside of the Ledger.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're even wrong about that, because
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  Speaker 2: even I would essentially I would actually agree with that,
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  Speaker 2: because what you're seeing is the left, especially in our institutions,
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  Speaker 2: has hit so hard with these radical ideologies. You know,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, you know, somehow a man can become
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  Speaker 2: a woman and vice versa, or if you use the
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  Speaker 2: wrong pronoun or mischigender, somebody like you see in Colorado,
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  Speaker 2: you can actually be arrested or be denied service from
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  Speaker 2: senior kids in court. You know, you have all these
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  Speaker 2: radical proposals and it's like, look, we don't care if
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  Speaker 2: you're gay or lesbian or transiener, we really don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Just don't impose your ideology on somebody and force them
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  Speaker 2: into something they don't simply agree with, right nobody. I
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  Speaker 2: would say gen Z in some ways is kind of
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  Speaker 2: mix of conservatives but also libertarians.
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  Speaker 1: They're libertarians. That's me. I'm a little el Elert tryon,
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  Speaker 1: Hunter Oswald. I I think we can all play nicely
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  Speaker 1: under the under the under the banner of freedom, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the right to control our own individual destinies without intruding
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  Speaker 1: into someone else's life. Hell, yes, I'll go for that
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  Speaker 1: all day, man, Yes, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's kind of And that's where
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  Speaker 2: I would describe gen Z in some way as a
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  Speaker 2: fusion Like we've heard this, you know, amongst conservative fusionism
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  Speaker 2: between conservative ideas and groups with libertarians, and that's been
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  Speaker 2: there for a long time, but I think it's certainly
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  Speaker 2: growing again, and especially you're seeing that in gen Z
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  Speaker 2: because like I've said, and others have said, is we
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  Speaker 2: don't care if you or this or that, just don't
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  Speaker 2: impose your will or use the state for government. How
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  Speaker 2: do you want to call them? To put your ideas
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  Speaker 2: on us and then say, if you don't follow our rules,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't like what we you have we have
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  Speaker 2: for you to say, then we're going to shut you out.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to give you these privileges, We're not
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  Speaker 2: going to allow you to practice your fundamental rights as
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  Speaker 2: a human being. Because I think at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, what conservatism offers that the progressives they don't,
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  Speaker 2: is giving an idea of what is human dignity, what
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  Speaker 2: is being able to be free to do what you'd
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  Speaker 2: want to do, so long as you're not infringing on
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  Speaker 2: other people's right to do the same. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's where gen Z is finally realizing conservatism libertarianism is
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  Speaker 2: offering that alternative. And it's always been there, it's just
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  Speaker 2: our institutions haven't been willing to say, oh, yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: got a point, because progressism is a fundamentally denial of
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  Speaker 2: what those ideals, those universal truths.
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  Speaker 1: Are indeed, and of course, when you're a Marxist, you
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  Speaker 1: hate religion, the concept of something higher power than the government.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the Founding fathers were well aware of that.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we have inalienable rights in the Bill of rights.
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  Speaker 1: They are God given rights. And if you don't believe
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  Speaker 1: in God, you can still believe in that concept. Consider
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  Speaker 1: the state of nature, as I point out all the time,
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  Speaker 1: if you're plopped down in the middle of field, magically
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  Speaker 1: by the fly, spaghetti monster born, and where there is
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  Speaker 1: no one around you, you can literally do anything you want.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as another human being lands next to you,
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  Speaker 1: then you have to observe their rights and freedoms. You
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  Speaker 1: can't harm them, they can't harm you. But can you
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  Speaker 1: defend yourself? Yes, in natural law you can. Can you
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  Speaker 1: go out and feed yourself, yes, you can. It's that
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  Speaker 1: whole idea of natural law, and that's you know, it
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  Speaker 1: springs from sometimes a religious ideology. I guess I'm just wondering.
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  Speaker 1: Like Turning Point, USA, Charlie Kirk very religious guy. His
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  Speaker 1: political message was cloaked in faith. But he wasn't trying
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  Speaker 1: to force you to be a Christian. He was trying
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  Speaker 1: to explain the value of it for you as an individual.
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  Speaker 1: It's uplifting. It gives you hope, it gives you freedom,
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  Speaker 1: it gives you all. I mean, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: reasons that he encouraged Christianity, but he wasn't going to
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  Speaker 1: force you to become Christian. Just say out loud, Hunter
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  Speaker 1: that you're a Christian immediately results in this venomous attack
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  Speaker 1: by the left. You stupid, what do you believe in?
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  Speaker 1: That in the philag Spaghetti monster too, and they just
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  Speaker 1: immediately attack you merely because you're a person of faith.
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  Speaker 1: Is is it a reaction from young people to now
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  Speaker 1: start turning to faith because of that response? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, that's ridiculous, And I'm going to look
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  Speaker 1: into this concept of faith and religion.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely. Yeah. No, gen Z is definitely being a revival
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  Speaker 2: in faith, especially towards Christianity. So me personally, I'm a
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  Speaker 2: Roman Catholic. I've been a Roman Catholic since the day
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  Speaker 2: i was born. I'm proud to be Roman Catholic. Now
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  Speaker 2: people would say, Hunter, what about you know, the Catholic
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  Speaker 2: Church and stuff, because that's one of the arguments today
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  Speaker 2: for young people who are going towards to say more
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  Speaker 2: traditional Masses or traditional Christianity amongst gen Z And they
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  Speaker 2: like you said, all you're superstitious, what do you believe?
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, look what the blest has done for
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  Speaker 2: the past few decades. Is promote this idea of pure
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  Speaker 2: secularism that somehow should be entirely separate from political even
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  Speaker 2: at more or less even cultural life. And they've been
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  Speaker 2: promoted this new idea called new atheism, which you hear
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  Speaker 2: people would say like, you're rich, your Dawkins, you're Christopher
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  Speaker 2: Higginson's who are saying that, you know, faith is not
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  Speaker 2: just useless, it's fundamentally dangerous to society because it promotes
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  Speaker 2: quote these superstitions that bring us backwards and away from science. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, look, if you look at Christianity, it has
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  Speaker 2: been immensely impassible for human dignity. It has promoted those
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  Speaker 2: universal truths that have allowed us to enjoy the very
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  Speaker 2: freedoms we have today. I mean we see this as
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  Speaker 2: you know Thomas Aquinas who argues that you know, reamson
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  Speaker 2: and faith are one and the same. The ability of
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  Speaker 2: reason is a gift from God. So when you have
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  Speaker 2: young people today being told that being religious or being
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  Speaker 2: a person of faith is backwards, make fundamentals. We deny
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  Speaker 2: the fruits of what and the very wisdom of Western civilization.
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  Speaker 2: They deny the very principles that allow us to got
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  Speaker 2: to this very own place whether And that's the best
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  Speaker 2: part about being a person of faith is you see
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  Speaker 2: all this when you open your eyes. Because another important
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  Speaker 2: thing is what new atheism failed, that is driving gen
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  Speaker 2: Z towards faith is its failed to give us purpose.
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  Speaker 2: Why are we here on this earth? Why are we
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  Speaker 2: doing the things we're doing? What is our ultimate goal
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  Speaker 2: in life? And religion has offers those answers. New atheism
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  Speaker 2: failed to funamility address that question, which is what purpose
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  Speaker 2: do we have in our lives?
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  Speaker 1: Hunter Oswald, It's going to be an amazing conversation. Empower
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  Speaker 1: Youoamerica dot org for all the details, get registered before
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  Speaker 1: seven pm the night. Show up in person at the
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  Speaker 1: empower use some of our studios again, three hundred great
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  Speaker 1: from home. Hunter, I can't thank you enough for what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing. And maybe you just now stumbled upon the
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  Speaker 1: reality of why they hate religion because that Christian faith,
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  Speaker 1: through Judeo Christian ethic built Western civilization. What are the
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  Speaker 1: Marxists and leftists hate more than anything in the world
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  Speaker 1: Western civilization period? End of story. So we got to
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  Speaker 1: attack the root cause of it. Maybe that's one of
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  Speaker 1: the reasons.
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  Speaker 2: Why absolutely yeah no, and and I hope to see
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  Speaker 2: everybody there, and we'll be having even more discussions about
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  Speaker 2: what conservatives means, means today for gen Z, the future
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  Speaker 2: of gen Z conservative as such, and what can we
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  Speaker 2: learn especially to bridge the gap between order conservatives, younger
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  Speaker 2: since conservatives and hopefully bring about an even brighter future
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  Speaker 2: for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: From boomers, two millennials to the gen Zers. Get everybody
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  Speaker 1: watching this seminar, Hunter Oswall to wish you the best
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  Speaker 1: on to keep up the great work. Maybe you and
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  Speaker 1: I can talk again sometime down the road here on
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  Speaker 1: the fifty five KRC Morning Show.
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  Speaker 2: Would be more than what Hey, thank you again Brian
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  Speaker 2: for having me.
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  Speaker 1: On my pleasure man. Enjoy the seminar tonight. It's eight
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  Speaker 1: twenty one right now, folks. Jay Ratt