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  Speaker 1: Welcome in the Jaguars reporters presented by Bonos, Pitt Barbecue
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  Speaker 1: and Cadillac. After Day two of NFL Draft, jaf Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: John Osier, Ashlan Sullivan, Brian Sexton and the Jaguars have
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  Speaker 1: added a few players here on day two. First off, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back to Jacksonville. Oh you know, look at Cleveland
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  Speaker 1: is not my ideal site for the draft anyway. The
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  Speaker 1: weather conditions I think proved that. Uh today, trying to
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  Speaker 1: get back was it was like the scene from planes,
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  Speaker 1: trains and automobiles where all the little signs flip at
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  Speaker 1: once to go to delayed. I mean, it was just
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  Speaker 1: it was one of those days. And of course it's
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  Speaker 1: a big day for the franchise because Trevor Lawrence Land.
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  Speaker 1: So luckily for me, I was following all of your
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  Speaker 1: coverage and was able to see and hear what was
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  Speaker 1: going on, even though I couldn't quite get back here
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  Speaker 1: in time to take part in any of it. It
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  Speaker 1: was quite a scene Ashland today when those guys showed up,
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  Speaker 1: greeted outside the gates by a bunch of school kids
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  Speaker 1: and then running around here with Shot Khan and meeting
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  Speaker 1: the media and on the big boards and everything going on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna get run over out there.
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  Speaker 1: There was kids everywhere. Everyone was yelling gosh. It's almost
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  Speaker 1: like he was a franchise quarterback. Show it up or something.
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  Speaker 1: I want to hear Ashlan's perspective because I attended the
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  Speaker 1: press conferences, so I saw glimpses of Trevor Lawrence, but
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  Speaker 1: Ashland had much more boots on the ground. If you will,
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  Speaker 1: your impressions of Trevor Lawrence um everything. You would have
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  Speaker 1: thought that he would be on no secret that he's
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  Speaker 1: probably had two hundred interviews, so incredibly professional, said all
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  Speaker 1: the right things, but it I think he lit up
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  Speaker 1: the most when we started talking about Travis E. T N.
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  Speaker 1: And you could tell that he didn't want all of
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  Speaker 1: this attention on him and he wanted to talk about
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  Speaker 1: his teammates. And he said, as cool as this day was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is this is a lot, this is
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  Speaker 1: a lot on me. I thought. The coolest thing is
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  Speaker 1: when he was walking in and he had all the
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  Speaker 1: kids from the elementary school shouting his name and they
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  Speaker 1: had posters. He walked and he said, hey, guys, remember
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  Speaker 1: my teammate, He's coming to be sure to have a
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  Speaker 1: poster ready for Travis, like absolutely, just taking all of
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  Speaker 1: that attention and putting it on his teammate. And that
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  Speaker 1: says it all good stuff. And Bryan, that's what we expected.
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  Speaker 1: It's what we've always heard about and talked about, I
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  Speaker 1: analyzed all the way up to the draft. It's funny.
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  Speaker 1: Last week I was with those kids at at Long
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  Speaker 1: Branch Elementary. Actually it seems like last week. It's Monday,
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  Speaker 1: that seems like last week. Uh, And it's funny. I
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  Speaker 1: asked those kids, Hey, do you guys know who Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence is? And they went, huh what? And by the
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  Speaker 1: time the week is over, they are locked in a
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars fans because of this kid. Um, It's been an
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  Speaker 1: interesting week to say the least, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: And of course now Travis Eatian showed up today as
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  Speaker 1: well as teammate, and you know, similar impressions right pretty
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  Speaker 1: and on an outstanding performer on the field, John, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the all time leading rusher in the A c C
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of touchdowns, finds paid dirt all the time. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there's so much focused on Trevor Lawrence that you almost
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  Speaker 1: feel like you know him before he got here, if
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  Speaker 1: you've been paying attention. Uh, he seems like a what
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  Speaker 1: you see is what you get guy. So when I
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  Speaker 1: was sitting there listening to Trevor today, I didn't feel
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  Speaker 1: like I was learning particularly anything new. I was seeing
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  Speaker 1: things that already been confirmed. I didn't know that much
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  Speaker 1: about E. T N. And first looking back at his stats,
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  Speaker 1: they're absolutely incredible in terms of what was seventy eight
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  Speaker 1: touchdowns scored in forties six games. But it's easy to
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  Speaker 1: forget that there were times in their careers where E.
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  Speaker 1: T N was more of the Heisman favorite, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: because of the numbers he produced, and by saying he
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  Speaker 1: was going to be the better pro prospect that's absurd
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  Speaker 1: because he's a running back. But this kid produced and
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  Speaker 1: produced and produced. And then sitting there listening to him today, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Clearly they went after high character leadership guys. That's evident
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  Speaker 1: through all five of the selections. It was certainly evident
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  Speaker 1: hearing E t N talk today, what an engaging leadership
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  Speaker 1: type of guy? I guess what I'm getting natalin. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I think Trent Bulky just said it great in
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  Speaker 1: that press conference that the way that him and Coach
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  Speaker 1: Meyer are contributing in that room. Is they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: build a culture through what Coach Meyer is seeing. And
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  Speaker 1: I think you're seeing a trend now, especially with these
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  Speaker 1: three selections. It's a lot of no nonsense, no really
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  Speaker 1: off the field me look at me stuff. These are
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  Speaker 1: all guys that have very similar personalities and similar traits,
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  Speaker 1: and it's got Coach Meyer written all over it. Talked
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  Speaker 1: to Don Monks in the Voice of the Clemson Tigers
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  Speaker 1: today and he argued that, you know, last year E
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  Speaker 1: t n might have been the best player on the
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  Speaker 1: football to you, and you have the number one overall
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  Speaker 1: pick on your team too, write I mean he played
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  Speaker 1: that well, especially going into that season the way et
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  Speaker 1: and had played a couple of years before that. And Brian,
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  Speaker 1: you know he he had to go work to really
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  Speaker 1: become a complete back. He could run and he was
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  Speaker 1: fastened and all that, but to become a first round
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  Speaker 1: pick you have to do everything that's catch the ball
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  Speaker 1: out of the backfield. And you know he couldn't catch
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  Speaker 1: a cold the first year when he showed up on campus. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he wouldn't worked at it and showed that work ethic.
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  Speaker 1: Brian you know what strikes me JP is how how
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  Speaker 1: culture and and how big that is for this And
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  Speaker 1: the reason I say it is because Dabs Whinney was
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  Speaker 1: saying yesterday about how these guys have to come in
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  Speaker 1: and buy in and earn everything they get. And he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't just talking about his offensive lineman or his running back.
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  Speaker 1: He was talking about the quarterback who never wanted anything
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  Speaker 1: that he didn't earn. And that creates this competitiveness, this
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  Speaker 1: healthy competitiveness in your in your locker room, on your
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  Speaker 1: practice field. And you know, when you've got a guy
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  Speaker 1: like Trevor Lawrence who's the number one dog on that field,
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  Speaker 1: and you've got Travis Trevor, Trevor Lawrence, Travis Etiana gonna
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  Speaker 1: get that right. Um, you can see where one, you know,
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  Speaker 1: begets the other and where that goes over the defensive line.
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  Speaker 1: And of course we know the names that they had
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  Speaker 1: come through Clemson on the defensive side of the ball
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  Speaker 1: as well. They've really built something and you know, so
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  Speaker 1: Walker Little and Tyson Campbell and Andre Cisco all kind
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  Speaker 1: of fit that mold. And that's what they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: do is create this culture. And you can see it
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  Speaker 1: today from from the selections that they've made. Jaguar's reporters
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  Speaker 1: daph Shattercash and Sullivan, John Osan, Brian Sexon. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: to those picks today. Tyson Campbell, the corner out of
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  Speaker 1: Georgia with a thirty third overall pick, Walker little tackle
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  Speaker 1: from Stanford who hasn't played in during your two years
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  Speaker 1: overall pick. And Andre Cisco, who had a knee injury
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  Speaker 1: early last season, the safety from Syracuse with the sixty
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  Speaker 1: overall pick. The opening pick of the third round, John
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  Speaker 1: will start with Campbell, speed, height, and you know it,
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  Speaker 1: it really fills out now that cornerback room. There're already
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  Speaker 1: guys there, but you can't have too many of them. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there are a couple of themes in the picks today.
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  Speaker 1: They clearly believed that they addressed defensive line in free agency.
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  Speaker 1: Remember when Urban talked about offseason needs, building, a defensive
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  Speaker 1: line was critical, but he also said secondary had to
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  Speaker 1: be addressed, and they sure addressed it in this There
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of talk in the media as soon
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  Speaker 1: as this pick was made. What does this mean for C. J. Henderson.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the pick of Campbell means beans for C. J. Henderson.
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  Speaker 1: He's the starting outside corner. Campbell I believe was drafted
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  Speaker 1: to play the nickel. It appears that and Urban has
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  Speaker 1: said it. They want to be able to play a
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  Speaker 1: lot of man to man. Campbell gives them the ability
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  Speaker 1: to do that. They didn't. I think they able to
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  Speaker 1: do that nearly well enough last year. I and Campbell
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  Speaker 1: he'll have to earn it, but they will want him
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  Speaker 1: to earn that nickel position. They kept talking about their size,
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  Speaker 1: their length, their speed at the three cornerback positions. Shelynn.
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  Speaker 1: We've been saying since this pick was made, there's this
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  Speaker 1: weird perception that it's it's a depth chart league and
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  Speaker 1: you have a left corner and you have a right
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  Speaker 1: corner and then you go play, well, you need three
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  Speaker 1: or four or five guys who can play. They picked
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  Speaker 1: up one more guy who can play in the secondary. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean and CJ's rehab from his injury is
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  Speaker 1: going great, but he had a pretty big time injury
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  Speaker 1: last year, and we saw what happens when c J.
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  Speaker 1: Henderson goes down. And Sidney Jones a great plug and
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  Speaker 1: play and Trey Hurden is great, but to have a
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  Speaker 1: guy like this sitting on the board a guy that
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  Speaker 1: could have the potential to be a starter and have
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  Speaker 1: that depth. Yeah, John's right, it's not just glue stick.
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  Speaker 1: And Okay, this is gonna work. And I hope this
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  Speaker 1: works all season. Now I have guys all right, and
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  Speaker 1: uh Ryan, Now we move on to that Walker Little,
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  Speaker 1: and he's a guy who hasn't played a long long time.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the Jaguars seems solidified in the starting lineup
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  Speaker 1: on the offensive line. This is one of those where
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  Speaker 1: I think, you, you know, see how he goes in
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  Speaker 1: the first year, and see how Cam Robinson goes in
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  Speaker 1: the first year, and he'll be able to play left
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  Speaker 1: and right and and kind of be there if needed.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of thoughts on this and listening to rban
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  Speaker 1: Meyer after the pics were made this evening, it was
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  Speaker 1: clear that he was able to lean on his experience
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  Speaker 1: in college football because he remembered, as he said, Walker
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  Speaker 1: Little as a recruit and what kind of player he was,
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  Speaker 1: what kind of person he was, And of course David
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  Speaker 1: Shaw runs a top shelf program at Stanford, so he
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  Speaker 1: was able to take the information that they had and
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  Speaker 1: combine it, you know, with what he could glean from
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  Speaker 1: other people like David Shaw and be comfortable with with
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  Speaker 1: the tackle who hasn't played in two years. But as
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  Speaker 1: you just said, Cam Robinson is playing on a one
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  Speaker 1: year tender and Juwan Taylor gave up eighteen or nineteen
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  Speaker 1: pressures last year. And you've got two guys that the
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  Speaker 1: head coaches said can play better and they expect to
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  Speaker 1: play better. Well, what makes the player better? Competition? Having
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  Speaker 1: a guy like this come in and compete should create
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  Speaker 1: a level of intensity like we talked about that Clemson
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  Speaker 1: obviously had with with Trevor and Travis. So bring him in,
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  Speaker 1: let's see him go. From what I know of him,
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  Speaker 1: he was a very highly sought recruit, very talented player,
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  Speaker 1: but has had some issues large human being though, And
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  Speaker 1: you can't it's tough to do. It'll make those guys
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  Speaker 1: every single day. Let's finish up with Andre Cisco safety
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  Speaker 1: of the Syracuse Flynn. It feels like he's gonna jump
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  Speaker 1: right in and start a free safety r. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about that. Knowing that, I asked him, this
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  Speaker 1: is such a pressing need and this could really be
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  Speaker 1: the thing where you come in and plug and play
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  Speaker 1: right away. And he said, well, I have to earn
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  Speaker 1: it first and he he slowed my role, which said
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  Speaker 1: a lot about him. But we were talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's super excited when the phone rings and it's an
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  Speaker 1: awesome moment and there's tears and and hugging and ya,
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  Speaker 1: And I said, for you coming back from an A
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  Speaker 1: c L injury, I mean this is just six months ago.
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  Speaker 1: For the Jaguars to trust that you're going to get
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  Speaker 1: to the point at training camp, will you'll be ready
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  Speaker 1: to go? He's like that means the world to me,
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  Speaker 1: Like there was so much worry that I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: what was going to happen because of this injury. For
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  Speaker 1: them to trust I'm going to to go said a lot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it's difficult to know j P. If he'll actually
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  Speaker 1: be ready to go when training camp begins. This might,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the timing of that. He got hurt in October,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not quite a you know, it could be
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  Speaker 1: a little overlap there where you're actually fully ready. But
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  Speaker 1: it was fascinating to me that the last two picks
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  Speaker 1: of this day, we're both guys who had not played
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  Speaker 1: in a certain period of time. And when the media
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  Speaker 1: surban Meyer about that, he said, it was that difficult.
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  Speaker 1: He laughed in he had this look on your face like, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're darn right. It was different all he actually said
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  Speaker 1: he needed help to kind of get through. But it
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  Speaker 1: I think it spoke to what Brian talked about, the
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  Speaker 1: research that they had, the contacts they made with such
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  Speaker 1: a weird college season with COVID. I think some of
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  Speaker 1: these picks were, you know what, we know these guys,
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  Speaker 1: we have contacts, We know what these guys are about.
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  Speaker 1: We are trusting the people that we have talked to
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  Speaker 1: with a draft that's full of unknowns for various reasons,
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  Speaker 1: and these two guys were two of the unknowns. So
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  Speaker 1: those contacts I think played a lot into that there's
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  Speaker 1: a big level of trust and their research needs to
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  Speaker 1: be right. And they both talked about risk reward in
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  Speaker 1: their press conferences tonight. Familiar names, contacts, it's things we've
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  Speaker 1: heard about in the coach hiring process, certainly in the
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  Speaker 1: player acquisition process. Free agency was like that. Now the
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  Speaker 1: draft seems to be like that too. Hey, Brian, five
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  Speaker 1: picks tomorrow, Um, how do you feel about Day three? Well?
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  Speaker 1: I know that there is a you and cry about
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  Speaker 1: tight end uh and and that's a position that I
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  Speaker 1: would like to see field two, but I think they
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  Speaker 1: need to attack linebackers tomorrow. I mean that there was
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  Speaker 1: a little run on them there at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the second round, and I haven't had a chance to
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  Speaker 1: follow up and see what's going on in the third
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  Speaker 1: round yet since walking in the door. But if you
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  Speaker 1: run a three four, you need a lot of linebackers,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's something they need to address tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we do you think, John? I agree, and
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  Speaker 1: tight end will be fascinating because I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: right now. Are you gonna go find a starter right now?
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  Speaker 1: So you know, probably not. So it feels like the
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  Speaker 1: conversation among observers is going to be on a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these veterans that we've heard about who could be
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  Speaker 1: on the trading block, etcetera, etcetera. I go back to
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  Speaker 1: what I said at the end of the last show
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  Speaker 1: we did JP, it's hard to find when you were
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  Speaker 1: one of fifteen team with so many holes, it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to fill all those holes with Hall of Fame guys
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  Speaker 1: in eight weeks. So I think the tight end seems
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  Speaker 1: to be the one where value kept not quite matching up,
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  Speaker 1: and then in price you wanted to pay not quite
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  Speaker 1: matching up JP. Unfortunate for you. You read me all
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  Speaker 1: the time, and how many times have you seen me? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Tight End is is one of the most difficult positions
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  Speaker 1: to fill in the NFL, and Jaguars are having that difficulty. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's something you don't want to reach for.
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  Speaker 1: You have the Tyler Davis's or the Josh Oliver's and
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  Speaker 1: if that pans out, awesome. But you're at the point
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  Speaker 1: now where if it falls to you, great, But can
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  Speaker 1: you expect this to be the savior to the position tomorrow?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. It's it's a good addition, but
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  Speaker 1: by no means should they now reach for tight ends
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  Speaker 1: because everyone says to a right that we'll do it
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  Speaker 1: for Jaguars reporters five picks tomorrow too in the fourth
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  Speaker 1: round two in the fifth round one of the seventh
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  Speaker 1: no trader Trent sidings. Yet, by the way, JP hashtight
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  Speaker 1: that name all trade up to my trade all five
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  Speaker 1: of these picks for one pick j tight Ends tight end.
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  Speaker 1: See now that would be something else. Brian will see
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  Speaker 1: you in here tomorrow looking forward to it. What time
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  Speaker 1: do we start? Noon? High noon? Bring donuts down Slynn
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  Speaker 1: just for that. I'm going to have two dozen for you.
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  Speaker 1: Keep your paws off my donuts because I because I
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  Speaker 1: because I know that she would put again she loved donuts.
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  Speaker 1: Go away with one less finger than you live in
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  Speaker 1: where in front of donuts over there? All right, that'll
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  Speaker 1: do it. That's Brian Sexton, John os Or, Ashman Sullivan
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  Speaker 1: and J. P. Shaddock. I thanks to Joe Fort Tornado
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  Speaker 1: and we'll catch you next time. It's Jaguars reporters on
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