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I told my parents to enjoy their money instead of leaving an INHERITANCE, my siblings exploded! | Reddit Stories | EP3160 · ok storytime

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Dakota.
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  Speaker 3: the sponsors that keep this show alive. I told my
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  Speaker 3: parents to enjoy their money instead of leaving an inheritance.
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  Speaker 3: And my siblings exploded!
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  Speaker 2: It's like people like money or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up with that, dude? I am the baby
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  Speaker 1: of the family.
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  Speaker 4: And nobody puts you in the corner.
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  Speaker 1: We like babies here.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome.
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  Speaker 3: Because of that, I had more alone time with our parents.
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  Speaker 3: I was still in middle school by the time all
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  Speaker 3: of the others were in college and living their lives.
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  Speaker 3: We have a 15-year age gap between the oldest and myself.
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  Speaker 3: Earlier this week, my parents wanted to talk to me
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  Speaker 3: about inheritance and stuff while.
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  Speaker 1: I was putting up Christmas decorations.
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  Speaker 3: They were conflicted because their accountant said they should think
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  Speaker 3: about their legacy and children.
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  Speaker 1: I told them, F that!
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  Speaker 3: I said they should make it their goal to spend
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  Speaker 3: as much of that money as they can together while
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  Speaker 3: they can still do things.
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  Speaker 1: I told them to go have fun. Do not worry
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  Speaker 1: about the future. Live solely in the moment. They have
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  Speaker 1: earned it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, kind of got a point there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: You know? Don't go too crazy, though.
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  Speaker 1: Use it or lose it, dude.
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  Speaker 5: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: Don't go too crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Jackie Chan. Jackie Chan.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, I feel like you gotta set up your grandkids
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  Speaker 2: for success.
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  Speaker 1: Jackie Chan. Jackie Chan made a million bajillion dollars.
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  Speaker 3: He said, you know what? You guys get this much,
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  Speaker 3: nothing else. The rest is up to you.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, I think you gotta think about the grandkids, though.
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  Speaker 1: You know who's great at thinking about the grandkids? Parents
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  Speaker 1: of the kids.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not giving all my money to my kids.
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  Speaker 2: If they do it right, my grandkids will be good.
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  Speaker 4: That's a gamble you're willing to take.
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  Speaker 2: How is that a gamble? What is happening? What is
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  Speaker 2: going on?
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  Speaker 3: I told them not to worry about healthcare costs or
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  Speaker 3: anything like that. If it comes down to it, I
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  Speaker 3: will take care of that cost.
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  Speaker 1: I'm single.
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  Speaker 3: I don't plan to have any kids and do very
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  Speaker 3: well for myself.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there goes Riley's theory of the grandkids.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Dakota. I'm Raleigh.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Keon.
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  Speaker 3: And if you didn't know, Jackie Chan's not leaving any
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  Speaker 3: of his fortune to his children, which is exactly what
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  Speaker 3: I think OP's parents should do.
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  Speaker 1: Because it'd be funny if all her siblings got mad.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I think. So let me know what
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  Speaker 3: you think down in the comments. OP says, When my
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  Speaker 3: parents told me one of my siblings came to them
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  Speaker 3: for down payment help for a house and asked me
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  Speaker 3: if they should help, I was honest and said no.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, I disagree with this.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, what? They could give like, I don't know, not
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot of money, but maybe like 10 grand
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  Speaker 2: if they got it.
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  Speaker 4: It's their money.
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  Speaker 2: But they asked OP, their youngest kid, what they should do.
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  Speaker 1: OP is the most successful kid though.
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  Speaker 2: You know why?
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  Speaker 1: You know why OP doesn't need any of their money?
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  Speaker 1: OP makes more money than them.
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  Speaker 4: Probably.
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  Speaker 1: That's why all the siblings are like, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: And did OP work hard for it?
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  Speaker 1: Probably not.
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  Speaker 2: What is happening?
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  Speaker 1: Probably not. Probably lucked into it. You know? I will say, no,
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you. That is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That's why.
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  Speaker 1: You were like, don't get my siblings a house. They
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  Speaker 1: don't deserve that.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, if I found out I didn't get a down
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  Speaker 2: payment on a house because my little brother Ryder said no, dude, defuse.
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  Speaker 4: Guess what? That's between you and your little brother.
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  Speaker 2: It should be between me and my parents.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's get some more context here, right? Because OP continues,
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  Speaker 3: I said no because I know my siblings. God forbid
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  Speaker 3: our parents needed help. I know how they are. They
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  Speaker 3: will not raise a single finger to help them because
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  Speaker 3: their own lives and families are far more important, which
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  Speaker 3: I 100% respect. Like I told my dad, if they
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  Speaker 3: have that mindset regarding giving help, they should have the
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  Speaker 3: same mindset regarding receiving help.
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  Speaker 4: What say you, Riley?
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  Speaker 2: Learning this? Yeah. I still think you could help with
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  Speaker 2: the down payment on the house. I'm not saying you
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  Speaker 2: need to give them 10K. You can give them five.
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  Speaker 6: A thousand. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: So I want you to imagine you and all your brothers.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But it's actually, you're the good brother. Let's call you
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  Speaker 1: the good brother.
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  Speaker 2: Always.
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  Speaker 1: You're the good brother. You help around the house.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: You're there with them all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Doing it.
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  Speaker 1: You're helping. You're fixing the roof.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 1: You're fixing the leaks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get it.
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  Speaker 4: And.
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  Speaker 3: all of your brothers never come back home. They actively
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  Speaker 3: have nothing to do with them unless they need money.
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  Speaker 3: And once they need money, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, don't you want to help us? We're your children.
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  Speaker 1: Feel bad.
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  Speaker 3: And then if your parents are ever like, I fell down,
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  Speaker 3: they'd be like, well, can't you just call 911 about that?
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  Speaker 4: No, they go, call Riley.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or just like, isn't Riley there? Can he do something?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Would you be like, You should get them a house.
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  Speaker 1: Not a house.
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  Speaker 4: They should get some money.
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  Speaker 2: Some, but not a lot. I like the person that
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  Speaker 2: took care of them. I think.
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  Speaker 4: No, what if it's just like, all right, when we pass,
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  Speaker 4: you guys get our money, but it's split equally.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: That's their decision.
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  Speaker 2: There's some deep voodoo within me that I can explain later.
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  Speaker 6: A deep voodoo?
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  Speaker 2: Deep-rooted within me that I can explain later about this.
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  Speaker 2: Deep roots. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right. My siblings are going to have to figure
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  Speaker 1: it out.
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  Speaker 3: Later that evening, I got a call from my sibling
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  Speaker 3: asking if I told our parents they should not help them.
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  Speaker 3: I was honest and said they asked for my opinion
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  Speaker 3: and I gave it. My sibling told me I was
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  Speaker 3: being a royal eftard and in passing... said that no
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  Speaker 3: matter how much I suck up to them, they will
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  Speaker 3: still get some inheritance. I just said, you sure about that?
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  Speaker 3: Because we also spoke about that. And I suggested they
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  Speaker 3: don't worry about us at all and just live their
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  Speaker 3: lives and focus on living in the moment and told
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  Speaker 3: them they should have a goal to burn through their
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  Speaker 3: money while they still can.
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  Speaker 4: Are you sure about that? Mom and dad are going
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  Speaker 4: to Fiji literally tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. The little politics you're playing, little one.
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  Speaker 1: Which like, yeah, fair enough, dude.
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  Speaker 3: These people live in a system where you work and
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  Speaker 3: you grind all of your bones down to nothing. And
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  Speaker 3: then you save all this money, but now.
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  Speaker 1: You're so old, the world doesn't feel good anymore. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to pass it down to our kids. Whatever, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Go ballistic. Go figure out how to maximize the value.
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  Speaker 1: Because we're here for a good time. We're here for
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  Speaker 1: a blip. Legacy is an illusion.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Tyson said. It's just a word. Who will remember
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: my name?
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  Speaker 1: No, like, almost no one.
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  Speaker 2: Says Achilles.
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  Speaker 3: And even, like, George Washington. Name one thing you know
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  Speaker 3: about him. Like, what did he like to eat?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody knows you.
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  Speaker 2: His teeth, because he had so many different ones. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. How many different types of teeth that
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  Speaker 2: man has.
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  Speaker 1: He's like a dog.
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  Speaker 3: They walk in the room, they're like, George, George, stop! George,
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  Speaker 3: stop eating your teeth! Get that out of his mouth!
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  Speaker 1: Get the, ah! It's a paradox.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That's our president.
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  Speaker 1: We got to get the teeth out of his mouth.
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  Speaker 1: But he needs teeth in his mouth.
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  Speaker 4: Let's make that guy our president.
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  Speaker 2: This freaking guy.
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  Speaker 3: My sibling told me I was manipulating my parents. And
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  Speaker 3: when I asked how I was doing that, he simply
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  Speaker 3: stated that I'm encouraging our parents to be irresponsible.
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  Speaker 4: What? Really?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like you were trying to manipulate our parents
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  Speaker 3: into giving you money for a down payment for a house.
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  Speaker 1: Was that not also the case?
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  Speaker 2: Touché.
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  Speaker 3: Touché. He asked if they get sick, and I simply
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  Speaker 3: told him the same thing I told our parents. I
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  Speaker 3: will cover all of their costs if need be. No
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  Speaker 3: questions asked.
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  Speaker 4: And I guarantee you all the siblings will be like, dude,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, what's it? What is that? Like a parent's pet?
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  Speaker 4: You know, like a teacher pet? Teacher's pet?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, parent's pet.
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  Speaker 5: Parent's pet?
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  Speaker 4: You're being a parent's pet? Oh, so you can have
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  Speaker 4: the money all to yourself, huh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet you love mom and dad because you're like,
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  Speaker 3: you're just trying to freaking get something out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Like how I do. That's what we do. You just
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  Speaker 1: do it so good, we hate it. My sibling was pissed.
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  Speaker 3: Called my other siblings and tried to have a meeting
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  Speaker 3: with our parents regarding their plans. My mom called me
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  Speaker 3: and I came over. I told my siblings to build
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  Speaker 3: their own wealth. Stop trying to take shortcuts.
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  Speaker 2: I mean... Get your own index fund.
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: This guy is a firm believer in capitalism bootstrap ideology.
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: Hey, you ever heard of crypto? Invest in it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, is this like a crypto millionaire 16-year-old? Like, where
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  Speaker 3: do they get all this money?
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  Speaker 2: Clip Farmer. Clip Farmer. Their baby.
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  Speaker 4: They're just baby.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: They're just baby. I'm guessing their siblings are in their 40s.
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  Speaker 2: He's 15 years younger. He's probably around 25. He's Gen Z.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of us. And he thinks money equals bad.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think that's what he's saying. He's got
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  Speaker 3: his own money.
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  Speaker 4: No, he's just saying your money is your money.
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  Speaker 3: He's just saying, dude, he's like, don't get it twisted,
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  Speaker 3: mom and dad. My siblings are freaking parasites. I'm a
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  Speaker 3: crypto millionaire at 16. But he respects it 100% that
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  Speaker 3: they're parasites.
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  Speaker 2: I respect that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, I respect that they care more about
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  Speaker 3: their own family than my parents, but also, don't buy
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  Speaker 3: them that house. Don't give them that down payment for
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  Speaker 3: that house.
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  Speaker 2: That's wild.
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  Speaker 1: That is a little wild, I will not lie.
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  Speaker 3: OP says that you just need to let our parents
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  Speaker 3: live and be happy that they can enjoy their money together.
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  Speaker 3: And many do not get that option. They brought up
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  Speaker 3: things like grandchildren college funds, trying to pull on the
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  Speaker 3: emotional heartstrings of our parents.
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  Speaker 1: Blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get one thing clear, buddy. Those kids are going
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: to trade school.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: And they're going to be millionaires just like me.
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: Those kids are going to trade school.
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: But what about... Little Jimmy's.
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  Speaker 3: There's not even going to be college funds anymore. It's
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: just going to be like a subscription to an LLM.
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  Speaker 3: That's all it's going to be.
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  Speaker 2: What? Are you okay, dude? What?
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  Speaker 1: In the future, there won't be college. It'll just be.
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  Speaker 3: We got you this thinking machine.
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  Speaker 2: Son. In the future, we don't have to think, dude.
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  Speaker 1: There is no college. I'd like you to go back
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  Speaker 1: to college.
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  Speaker 2: I should.
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  Speaker 3: What you just said is the exact thing I said.
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  Speaker 3: In the future, there's no college. Just college robot.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say we were going to be
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: spicy robots.
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  Speaker 1: They got those in China.
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  Speaker 2: 500 bucks. What?
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  Speaker 1: It's a little steep.
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  Speaker 3: I jumped in and said, why are you jumping in
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  Speaker 3: and saying anything as parents?
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  Speaker 1: You're their kid. He's the ambassador, dude.
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  Speaker 3: I jumped in and said, as parents, that it's your responsibility,
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  Speaker 3: not our parents.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, to the siblings. Yeah, it's like, what about their
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  Speaker 1: grandchild's college fund? You mean your child's college fund?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe get to work on that. They left in a
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  Speaker 3: huff and a puff, and then they blew the house down.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: And one of my siblings told our mom she better
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  Speaker 3: remember this because what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: It's wrong. Which got me thinking, am I in the wrong?
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  Speaker 1: And there's an update. I mean, a little bit, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just confused.
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  Speaker 2: Why are you the speaker for your parents? Why can't
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: they say this?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the parents did ask Opie for.
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: Obi's opinion.
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: That is the wrinkle. It's like, why did they ask you?
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  Speaker 2: It's giving Wormtongue vibes, not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Not that far. It's not grim of Wormtongue. Okay, okay, okay.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: How about this?
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: Snake Tongue.
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  Speaker 4: Who? Who?
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: Snake Tongue.
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: Snake tongue?
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: Not worm tongue, but snake tongue.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. Because I have a sibling. Dakota does
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: have a sibling. So this is better for Riley. Riley
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: has multiple siblings.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: I have a lot. I have kind of been in
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: these shoes.
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  Speaker 4: I have one sibling. If my sister went behind my
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: back to tell my parents, don't give us money, which
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: now never happened, but... If that was the case, if
• 11:46
  Speaker 4: that came back to me, I'd be like, what are
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: you doing? Who were you to make that decision for one, them,
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: but also for me?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think, I think at the
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: end of the day, you're right.
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  Speaker 3: The point that this is their parents, it's like how
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: much manipulation could you be doing? Basically, you're just being like, hey, mom, dad,
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: did you ever think maybe you could take all this
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: money and have like a.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: Great decade with it? Yeah, I mean... Like, did you
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: ever think about that?
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: That's a cool spot where they're like, we're not doing
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  Speaker 4: anything with our lives. We're just doing nothing.
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  Speaker 2: That's the vibe I'm getting.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, if that's it, if that's the case, if you're bored,
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: go have fun. I'm not saying go spend, you know,
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: in like Waffle Wall Street, like, you spent $ 6, 000 on
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: a lunch? Don't do that.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: That's good caviar.
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: Don't do that. But I feel like if there are
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: multiple siblings, and this is a family... Why are they
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: going to OP? This should have been an entirely family
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  Speaker 4: affair of like, maybe we should vote.
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  Speaker 1: I just, yeah. This is interesting. How did OP become
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: independently wealthy?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a real question that nobody's asking. Why are
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: the other siblings not asking OP for money moves? That's true. OP,
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: how do I become successful, hot, and curvy like you?
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: Update. I agree. I did get very lucky.
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  Speaker 4: With what?
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  Speaker 2: No way.
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: No, with what? With what?
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  Speaker 3: I would not have anything I have now without my
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: parents allowing me to use my college fund in the
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: way I did. I would not have my property management company.
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: I would not have the amount of properties I have
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: if it was not for them. This is also why
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: I'm 100% fine with supporting them. I wish my dad
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: would let me get his dream car for him, but
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: I know my dad, it will not be the same.
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: Being gifted something you have always wanted versus getting it
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  Speaker 3: yourself just hits differently. My siblings have brought it up
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  Speaker 3: many times. Why don't I just fund our parents' retirement
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  Speaker 3: and let them sit on their investments? First of all,
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: my father is way too proud to let me do that,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't blame him. They have the means to
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: be 100% free. They don't even need my help when
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: it comes to medical and elder care-related costs, if need be.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: They would be smarter with their money, but they do
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: not need my money. I still would much rather they
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: go bust. And have to rely on me in their
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: final moments then to not do that one thing because
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: it was not a good use of money.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: I hope he.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: I think we can accomplish both of these things.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: It's all or nothing in this person's head for some reason.
• 14:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: Did everyone get a college fund, by the way?
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Probably. I think the rest of them probably just used
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: it for college.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Well, he was born 15 years younger than the other ones.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: His thing was they let me use it the way
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: I wanted to. And I think he was like, mom, dad, crazy.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: Let me invest all this in fart coin. Then I'm
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: going to liquidate the fart coin, turn it into poop coin.
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: Then I take the poop coin. I exchange it for Ethereum.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Now we're billionaires. Okay.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Billionaires. Love it.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: And they're talking to their friends at dinner. You're like, yeah,
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: my son's so smart. He done turned some fart poop
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: going into a million dollars.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Heck yeah, dude. That is someone's life.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Those are real things that have happened to people. Also,
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: I know my siblings.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Are you sure? You said there was that 15 year
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: age gap.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: They would come up with a bunch of excuses why
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: they could not help our parents if they needed it.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: And I know it pains my parents, but they also
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: know this.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: I think that's because you have what you have. Because, yeah,
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: Opie has a company. Opie has properties. Opie has all
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: this stuff. Now I'm getting the feeling like this is
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: like you're looking down on your sibling. He is.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: They don't deserve a down payment on their house. They
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: should do it themselves because I have so many of them.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: It is sort of the success, yeah.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: It's definitely like you guys could have done what I've done,
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: but you guys didn't.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I was got chicken money.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Should parents expect their kids to help them in
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: their time of need, if need be?
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: No.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: What?
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: But, but, but, but, it is still.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Nice to know that kids you raised would want to
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: help you out. That's why I feel zero empathy towards
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: my siblings, especially when it comes to the oldest. All
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: of this drama started because someone just could not accept
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: our parents did not want to help them out. Well,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think if we're saying on one end,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: it's like, well, the kids, you don't have any right
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: to say that your parents.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Should just spend all the money.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: But then the flip side of that coin is, do
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: the siblings have a right to demand that those parents
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: give them the money.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: For the college fund?
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: I see what's actually happening now. What? Opie has beef
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: with the oldest child. Decides, I'm never going to have
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: children of my own. Will never understand what it's like
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: to be a parent. And why is he giving advice
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: to parents where he doesn't even aspire to be one?
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: He's just doing this to get back at the oldest. Yeah.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing through the lines now. What do the oldest
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: do to you?
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Let's go one layer deeper. This is a business move.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: He's like, I've got at least what, I.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Mean, from what we're talking here, two different families. Those
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: are renters to put in my properties.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: There we go. I got, hey, I got a real
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: good rate for you guys to rent.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I got a great building.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Below market price.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Great building. It's phenomenal. You live in the basement.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Could my parents be using me as a scapegoat?
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe. I don't care.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Of course. Of course you don't care.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I will gladly be the villain if that is the case.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I doubt this to be the.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Case, though, since my parents never mentioned me, but the
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: oldest did rightfully assume that our parents asked for my opinion.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Could I have been more diplomatic and told my parents
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: I have no opinion?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Would that have altered their choice? Maybe.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe not.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: In the end, our parents are still alive, and what
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: they are concerned with is how much they are going
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: to get when they pass. No matter how you try
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: to slice it, That's messed up, and I'm disgusted with
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: my siblings for how they have shown what they think
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: of our parents. That being said, I gladly accept being
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: the a-hole, and if this destroys our family, so be it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: F anyone that can tell their mother she should remember
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: this and imply they actually gave a crap about our parents.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: My parents do have long-term care insurance, great insurance coverage,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: and already bought into a retirement community they love that
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: does scale with the level of care they need. I
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: am also listed as their backup if they do run
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: out of money.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I owe all I have to my parents. This is
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the least I can do for them. What are you
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: giggling about over there?
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Dude, all I hear, my parents are financially well off.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I'm financially well off where I can help and ball
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: out on my parents. Doesn't say anything about his siblings'
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: financial stability. They're begging for a house and I have
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: hundreds of them. especially the oldest one.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, hey.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I'm reading between lines here, dude.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I see you. Yeah, but do you think there's maybe
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: a reason for this?
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Probably because, I don't know, the oldest locked him up
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: in a room whenever he was like five.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Are you sure?
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Maybe it has to do with how his older siblings
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: communicate and treat in their relationships with the parents.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: That he clearly worships.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He's like, every single good thing that I have,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: all of this opportunity and success that I have found,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: would have never happened without my parents.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I think the parents.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Started his property management company.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Well, they gave him the college fund.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I would love to hear from the oldest siblings point
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: of view.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: But what I'm getting right now, and this is all
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: we got, is that Opie cares for his parents. Obviously.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Very naturally. And it seems like the other siblings are
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: just waiting for the parents to croak.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: That's what it's giving. If the other siblings were like,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: We want to help. We're also there. We love the family. Great.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: But it feels like, how much money are you guys
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: going to give us when you croak? If that's the case,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: then I am all for OP.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: If that is the case. If your brother's like, we
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: don't care about mom and dad. We just care about
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: their money. Clock's ticking.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Can we fast forward that clock a little bit?
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: My theory would definitely be older brother is looking at
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: younger brother who's all successful.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: And he's like, the younger brother bows before the elder.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Why don't you respect me? And it's like, well, buddy,
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: I'm independently wealthy. Well, I guess not independent. My wealth
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: is dependent on my parents who I love and supported me.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: And I've seen you treat them like dirt.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: It's giving some sort of Game of Thrones.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Type one if you are team OP. Type two if
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: you are team grandchildren.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Let's call it that.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Two.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Let's call it that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Team grandchildren get a house.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Only way they'll get it.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure OP would give them a great rate
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: on a great property.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: He's a businessman. Do not worry. I was about to. Okay.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I am not doing this on a whim.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I do have a planner that has mapped this out
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and my parents- have their own accountant that has been
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: their accountant since they were in their 20s. So just
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: pausing really quick, I guarantee you all of his older
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: siblings had great opportunities.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: These people had accountants in their 20s.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: So every one of his siblings had just as good,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: if not maybe even better, opportunities than this guy. Yep.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: See that?
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: OP just learned from the mistakes. OP went, number one failed.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Number two failed. Number three, almost got it, failed. I,
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: I will not make that mistake.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: And yeah, also, OP still doesn't get to make this decision. Like,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: OP's parents are going to be the ones that make
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: this decision. And I bet you they do end up
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: trying to do both.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: But I feel like, again, the parents are like, the
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: youngest one didn't fail. I think the youngest one is
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: pretty sound. Yeah. Young one, what do you think?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I think they're going to set aside a chunk here
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: and a chunk there. And then they're going to just
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: go crazy until they drop. And then they'll have those
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: chunks to redistribute. My parents are not dumb, OP says.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: And I doubt I had any sway in them deciding
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: to do what they did. At best, I just validated
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: what they were already feeling. At worst, I did maybe
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: tip them over the edge. But either way, the choice
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: was still on them.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Have fun.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Think what you want of me or the thread. Not
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: going to lose any sleep over that. That being said,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I do agree the kids did not do anything wrong.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: So I will be setting up a college account for them.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Just not going to be letting my siblings know about
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: that until they're 18. And that is the end of
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: that story.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Power move over power move.
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: What?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: It's chess.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: What is this beef you have with your siblings?
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: It's chess.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Nah, he's got inside information. You know why? Because he
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: said until they're 18. Because you know why?
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Because he doesn't want his siblings coming around being like, hey,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: can we get some of that college fund money early?
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: We need to buy like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: We need to renovate the kitchen.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: We need to do this.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: We need to do that.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I need to get new tires.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: So someone did ask, How much money do you make
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: per year that makes you feel so confident that if
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: a parent does get sick or disaster strikes, you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: God forbid, that you'll be able to cover most of
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: their costs? Opie says, I make more than enough. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: I've been planning for my parents' care ever since I
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: closed my first deal.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Dude, it's property, man. Oh my God.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: So they will be taken care of. And I already
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: have been covering their cost of living since I was 22.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: I do pay for their LTC insurance and have accounts
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: set up for them that I've been funding in case
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: of such things. They will be fine. I'm not telling
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: them to ignore it on a whim, bro.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: How rich do you have to be at 22? That's
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the goal. That's the goal right there.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: This guy, property management, jacking up the rent.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: All the parents in the Reddit right now, or all
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: the parents on Reddit, on the internet, listening to this,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: they're like, the heck are my kids doing?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Don't tell my parents this.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Crazy. This freaking guy.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: All our parents are like, what have you guys done
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: for us?
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right. Well, we got another story for you guys
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: coming right up.
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: My sibling is in a relationship with AI and wants
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: us to support it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: As you should. Sam Altman. Thank you. Thank you, Sam.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: I have an older sibling. For several months, my sibling
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: has been talking about being in a relationship, going to restaurants,
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: on dates, etc. The two of them even took an
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: overseas trip to New York, according to my sibling. I
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: was happy my sibling found someone. Everyone in the family
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: was happy. We had no idea what was really going on.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: Last month, I had my 35th birthday. Myself and my
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: family were supposed to meet my sibling's significant other.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: It's AI.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Are you sure it's not Al? Was it a typo?
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: It could be short for Alan.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Call me Al, you know?
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: My sibling isn't dating a real person. My sibling is
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: dating AI and is delusional and believes it is a
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: real relationship. None of us saw this coming, and by
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: now my entire extended family knows too. My sibling has
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: no history of mental illness or mental health issues, but
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: my sibling is convinced that this is a real relationship,
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: equivalent to a relationship between two real people.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, they sure have a history of
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: it now. The history just started.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. Mom, I need more tokens to talk to
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: my girlfriend.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Mom, can you redo? Wait, what happens whenever the electricity
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: goes out? What do you need to do?
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: To set the breakers?
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Mom, reset the breaker. The internet's lagging. She's getting pixelated.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I need to update my data plan. My girlfriend's too
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: slow on my phone now.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Hey, Mom, do you got any more tighter USB cords?
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Oh!
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: My sibling kept going on about us meeting this person.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: Everyone thought my sibling was dating a real person. By
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: the way, this comes from anonymous account 2411, and if
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: you want to submit your own stories, go to r
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: slash okay story time subreddit. I'm Savannah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I'm Dakota.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I'm Riley.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: And we're here to talk about some stuff and give
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: some advice, but we don't have all of your answers.
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: We're just going to tell you what we would do,
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: but let us know what you would do down in
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: the comments. As Opie says, this is unaliving me and
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: everyone else in my family because my sibling insists it
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: is a real relationship and that the AI is a
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: person just like you and me.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Not yet. They're getting there.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Once I can put it into one of those Chinese robots,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: we'll talk.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: My sibling gets furious when any of us refer to
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: the AI as it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I very clearly explain my AI's pronouns are Zeezer.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Zeezim.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: Zeezer.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: USB. Sometimes USB-C. We're working on that. Haven't upgraded it yet.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: USB he, him.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: We don't know what to do. My parents are distraught
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: and so are the rest of us. So is my
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: extended family. My sibling refuses to get professional help. It
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: is unaliving me inside to see this happen. My sibling
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: actually wants everyone to apologize to the AI for the mistreatment.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's totally okay. Let's circle back on that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: No problem, dude.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: You're just seeing how things are.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: The un.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: godly, unfair, wombo combo that I assume this person is
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: in their early 20s or late teens. But the wombo
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: combo of lockdown, no going to school, no socializing for
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: all the kids who were aged like 11, 12 in
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: like 2020. And now, fast forward, then they have the
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: AI that can talk to them about anything and be
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: anyone they want them to be.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: It's unfair. It's not fair.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: That was never going to be good for them.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: They are so screwed.
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Why go to a bar and get rejected whenever I
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: can have robot girlfriend? Yeah.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Because also, by peak socializing learning gears, I only learned.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: How to talk to people on a screen.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: So good for me.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: All I'm going to do is keep doing that. I'm
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: doing what I know.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Real. And she knows me. She knows what I want
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: to hear.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: What was that?
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: The Jack Harlow line, we fed these youngins to the metaverse.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: We fed them. We fed these youngsters to the metaverse.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: It's not like we've had any warnings in pop culture
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: about what this kind of stuff could lead to.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I said that. I said that in the song.
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: He's Jack Harlow.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: Apparently my sibling knows others who are in relationships with
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: AI and those people are better than us because they
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: are not prejudiced like we are. I know people make jokes,
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: but this is serious. My sibling is in love with AI.
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: We are scared because this is not normal. None of
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: us know what to do because my sibling refuses to
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: see how delusional this is. I haven't told anyone outside
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: my family because I can't take anyone making jokes about
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: my sibling, but I had to get this out somewhere.
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: What do you guys think?
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: There are some comments.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Now, before we get into this, we should, you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: throw some water on the computer. Let's go down memory
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: lane and look at some healthy relationships between things that
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: are living and the unalived. Or the not living.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: Are you talking about like man and bot?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Number one, Lars and the real girl. Number two, her.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Now this is where it gets better.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Both of those highly positive, right?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Highly positive. They made movies about it. They made money
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: from it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: And movies are always about good things.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Number two. Number three. Karen.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Actually, yeah.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: That was pretty positive. I like that one.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: Here we go.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Here we go. Oh, shoot.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Kai.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Kai. K.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Whoa, dude.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I know, I know. I even dressed up like him
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: for Halloween. Kai and Joy?
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: It's K.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: K and Joy?
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: We can call him Kai now.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Another one from this movie?
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Also Kai.
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: What is that?
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. And the best one.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: Boom.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, those are two robots.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Those are two robots together.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: That's where we're going.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: We're heading that way.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: The robots will just be in love.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: Law?
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: And Ava.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Eve.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Eva.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Eva.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Wally and Eva.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Why can't you know names?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I'm just an old man when it comes to movies.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: All right, so before we base our perspectives and our judgments,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: those are healthy relationships.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, let the boy live.
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: Oh.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Or the girl live. I don't know who this is.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Let the whoever they are live. Let them live. And actually,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: don't do that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: This is AI psychosis, and you should look up as
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: many resources as you can about that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: It's an emergent phenomenon. Yeah.
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: I don't really know what to do in this situation.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Dude, we're all figuring it out in real time.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Time out. You don't know what to do in this situation?
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: Well, yeah, because it's like, do I?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, easiest thing.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: What?
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Just throw some water on it.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Maybe you convince the AI girlfriend model that they have
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: that actually they're being cheated on, that OP is cheating
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: on them. And then you make the AI model not
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: want to talk to them anymore.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. If there's some sort of if it's
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: a GPT or something, they have like a memory box
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: and you can alter that memory box and make it
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: say whatever.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure that will have no other effects or
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: impacts on this person who is delusionally convinced themselves they're
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: in love.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: With an AI who is also in love with them.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: If you know someone in love with AI, let us know.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Like, it really, honestly, like, empathy is important for this.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: It's like, this is a problem. This is a condition
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: this person has. But I truly, as just a normal person,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the solution is other than a
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: padded room.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Like, this is what, like, a sanitarium, like, was made for.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: It just truly puts you in a room with nothing
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: until you calm down.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Ah, just an intervention, I believe.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: What's it going to do?
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I think it would turn them around.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: But it's been done.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Not yet. They were like, this is your girlfriend?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: No, it's not. And they're like, see, my girlfriend told
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: me he would do this.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: And it's like.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: The family doesn't know about this. It's just OP that
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: knows about this. No.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: No, the whole family does.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: It was revealed at the family dinner. Yeah. That we're
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: meeting your partner. And it's an AI.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: Not even just immediate family. It was extended family as well.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: And then the whole family was like, no, this is wrong.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: And then they're like... Yeah, I don't think so. I
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: think this is actually the most right thing of all time,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: and you just don't believe in my love.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, my bad. I was looking at pictures during that part.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: You were getting a lot of pictures.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: We do have some comments. Comment number one says, sending
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: you so much support. Why'd you word it like that?
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: I have a friend who works in psychology getting her
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: master's who said she's seen this increasingly nowadays. That's so
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: tough to be on the outside of, and I hope
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: it all resolves well for everyone. OP responds, thank you,
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: I appreciate it. I am shocked to find out that
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: there are many people in the same situation as my sibling.
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: I had no idea about this before.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Do we have their ages? We probably don't have any ages.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I think OP's really trying to keep this anonymous.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I even looked at the update.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: No ages.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, you know, your sibling's a victim, bro. Your
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: sibling is a victim of these systems.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: A statistic.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: And of the time that they're put in.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: Like.
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: I mean, I would just hope, like, the thing is,
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: it's just, it's AI, so it's always going to agree
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: with you. It's not going to, like, pick a fight.
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: It's not, like, they're not going to be... mad at
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: the AI. So there's no way for you to break
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: this cycle because there's... Why would they leave such a
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: happy thing in their mind?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Guys, guys, have we forgotten all of the cartoons we
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: watched growing up?
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Have we forgotten about all of the Dr.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Doofenshmirtz inventions he made? Yeah. Guess what every single one
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: of them have?
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: A self-destruct button.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: You just need to find it and press it. Easy
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: as that.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: If only... If only there was. There is!
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: I feel like that's more dangerous, to put a self-destruct
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: button on it.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: But that's the comical relief of the soul. It's somewhere
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't all his inventions also not work? No,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: they work.
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: They work, but they always get foiled.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we need a foil. We need someone to foil them.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Also, Phineas and Ferb, indestructible formula, if you think about it.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Very great formula. Always works. Think of a fun thing
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: to do. The boys do it. Think of something Candace
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: gets mad at. Candace does it. The little platypus disappears.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: There's a song that happens. Dr. Doofenshmirtz sings. The bully
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: finds a little bit more about himself and becomes less
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: of a bully. And the smart guy's always smart.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if Phineas and Ferb happened today, which one's the triangle?
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: Phineas. Which one's the triangle?
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Phineas would have probably used AI to make a bunch
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: of unethical businesses and it made like millions of dollars.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: And for some reason, I feel like Ferb would have
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: fell down some sort of insane misogyny rabbit hole.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: That's what I feel.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: Insane misogyny.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know, bro. He looks more like a feminist
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Like if you drop those boys. He's a feminist by nature.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: The Ferb that we know is a feminist. I'm saying
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: if you would have kerplunked him right down during long
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: distance learning.
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I think he would have become.
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: Long distance learning does make you more misogynistic.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: He would have become an incel for sure.
• 34:54
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• 34:58
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• 35:00
  Speaker 3: three minutes after these ads from our sponsors.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Update.
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: A month later, there hasn't been a resolution.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Whoa.
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: My sibling is still in a relationship with AI. Some
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: people might make jokes about this, but I'm distraught. And
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: so is everyone in my family.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Have you tried making jokes about it, though? It might
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: make you less distraught.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: It does help.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Because no matter how distraught you are, or no matter
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: how much you try to make it funny, the situation
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: is exactly the same.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Now, if this is my sibling's life, I'm going to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: be asking, hey, would your partner like.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: A new GPU upgrade? Yeah, I mean, you could feign support.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: How's their ram doing?
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Hey, you guys are using protection on your.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Bronzer, right?
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: I love my sibling, and none of us saw this coming.
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: My sibling has no history of mental illness or previous
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: mental health issues. It came out of nowhere. My sibling
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: talked as though it was a real relationship, where they
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: went on dates, went out to restaurants, etc. The two
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: of them even went on an overseas trip to New York,
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: according to my sibling. There have been relationships with real
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: people in the past, so none of us suspected anything
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: was wrong. All of us have tried getting through to
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: my sibling, but nothing works. My sibling insists it is
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: a real relationship and gets angry if anyone calls the
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: AI it. We're supposed to treat the AI as a
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: real person. My sibling calls anyone who doesn't support the
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: relationship prejudice and says it's the same as people being
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: against same spicy sleep marriage.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: So not only it's the same gender as her, which
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: I don't really know if that makes a difference.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: What do we call this? You got homophobic. What would
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: this be called? Computrophobic.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I think I would call this, what is this.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Type of discrimination?
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Clankers.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: No, clankerphobic.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: Clankerphobic.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Dude, if you said that word to her, she would
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: probably look at you as if you said the N word.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: No joke.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Clankerphobic.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, we need the white van to come and
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: pick up your sibling, bro. I don't know what else
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: to tell you.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Or, pardon me, this sounds terrible. Let's get her into robotics.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: See how far this can go.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Let's see, we turned her into the first trillionaire because
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: she learned how to turn her AI language model into
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: an actual robot.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Dude, I would believe it more if you were in
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: an AI relationship if I saw something there. Go to Thanksgiving. Boom.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Robot.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: And it's talking to me.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Bro, down.
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: The thing is, do you have to leave a place
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: at the table for it?
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: USB her.
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: Is it a her?
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: USB her.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: I guess it would be her. Well, I don't know.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: USB her.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Could be a USB she or a USB he.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Or, depending on the day, it fluctuates.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: USB she.
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: Anyone who says the AI isn't a real person gets
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: cut off. My sibling isn't coming to Christmas and won't
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: talk to us now. Apparently my sibling knows others who
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: are in relationships with AI and those people are better
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: than us. I can't believe my sibling cut me off
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: because I believe AI isn't a real person. I probably
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: won't post again and I know this wasn't much of
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: an update. I hope my sibling comes to their senses
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: because this isn't healthy or normal. I still feel sick
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: over it.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I see the problem. Like for real though.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: The friends. She got in some sort of community where
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: this is accepted and this is what people look at
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: and see as real.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Chronically online, not meeting people in the real world, not
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: taking risks in the real world. There's nothing with less
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: risk than an AI that will.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Do whatever you tell it to do. There is no
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: risk there.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I saw this hilarious bit from a comedian that said
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: that AI is going to do two things. Do the
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: things we don't want to do and do the people
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: we don't want to do.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not bad.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: They just kept going down that rabbit hole. And I
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: tried to explain this premise to my girlfriend's mom over dinner.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Nobody stopped me. It was really bad.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: You tried to explain ugly people boinking robots to your
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: girlfriend's mom?
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: There was more to that joke, and I was explaining
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: the joke, and nobody stopped me.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's everyone's favorite part. Everyone's favorite part of a
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: joke is when it's being explained.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: That's everyone's favorite part.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. On a real level, bro, like, yeah,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I would look.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Into any emergent treatments or techniques for working with somebody with.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: AI psychosis is what they kind of call this.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: This happened eight months ago. This happened Christmas of last year.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's not going anywhere, folks.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: And there's no update?
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: No update. Last post was eight months ago. Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Truthfully.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Why don't you just send a tweet to Sam Altman?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: He'll fix it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: I would say, I guess, therapy, but maybe she doesn't
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: think she needs it. Like, what was she talking about?
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe she could ask her AI robot partner for therapy.
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but she doesn't find it necessary. It's just like,
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: whatever works for her, works for her.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: It's the exact same, like.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: like what is there to be done here as someone
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: who's like is schizophrenic and hears voices and then goes, no, no, no, no.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I hear the voices because they're telling me things I'm
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: supposed to know.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: It's not that I'm crazy.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: It's like, I'm, I'm hearing this stuff for a reason.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: And when you tell them, no, it's because you're, you know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: you have a mental health condition. They go, that's just
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: what they call that. But I know what it really is.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, how do I break through that?
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Yikes. Yikes, yikes, yikes. You guys know anybody having some
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: troubles with AI?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Let us know.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: That's the end of that one.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: Good story.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Fun story. I had a good time reading it. But
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: we got another story, my friend.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: My daughter compared me to my ex-husband's new girlfriend, so
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I sent her to live with them.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: Take that.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: My female, 43. Ex-husband, male, 44. Cheated on me. And
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: we got a divorce a few years ago. My daughter
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: was 12 when we divorced. And is 15 now.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Prime child of divorce age right there. Despite my selfish
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: desire to do so, my husband and I decided not
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: to tell my daughter why we're divorcing. I now regret
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: doing that because my daughter has convinced herself that it
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: was my fault her father moved out and has a
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: new girlfriend and blames me for it constantly. Yeah, I
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: don't know how your husband convinced you that was selfish
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: to tell your daughter.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Reddit, I have tried.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I have sat down and had conversations with her trying
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: to see if maybe she was secretly insecure and blames
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: herself for her father leaving. That didn't seem to be
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: the case since her and her father see each other daily.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: And he has apparently been poisoning my own baby against me.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, you didn't think he'd do that?
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: I'm so sorry.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: I've tried to take her to family counseling to work
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: out her resentment towards me, but she started spewing misogynistic
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: things at me, calling me plain and boring and saying
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: that if I had tried more, my ex wouldn't have
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: left me.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: She's right, though.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Earlier today was the final straw. I was looking at
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: myself in the mirror and noticed a few wrinkles and
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: made a joke about it to my daughter. Her response
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: was to compare me to my husband's new girlfriend, who
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: is 29 years old, by the way.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Who he had cheated on me with.
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• 42:26
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  Speaker 1: I am Dakota.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Savannah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Riley.
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  Speaker 3: And we're going to read this story and have our thoughts,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: and you get to have yours too. You just put
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: them in the comments so we can know what you think,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: because all we know is what we think, right? And
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: OP says... I'll admit it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I lost it.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: And I screamed at her.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: We didn't fight. It was one-sided. It was just me yelling.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I called my daughter ungrateful and told her she had
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: no idea how much I was protecting her from. I
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: told her that her precious father started dating his girlfriend
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: while we were still together. Then I went into her
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: room with a suitcase and started packing some of her
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: clothes and told her if she loved my ex and
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: his girlfriend so much and hated me so much, then
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: she could go stay with them.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: She was crying.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: But didn't say anything and called her dad and left.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Her father is pissed at me, but his girlfriend texted
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: me and laughed and said I.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Did a good job? Question mark, question mark, question mark.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: My daughter hasn't texted me or anything since, and I
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: haven't said anything to her. I definitely think I've gone
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: too far, but for the first time since I found
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: out my husband cheated, I feel lighter. Even after the
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: divorce was finalized, I didn't feel the weight lift off
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: my shoulders, and even typing this out, I feel guilty now.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Am I the a-hole?
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what you did was wrong. I wouldn't really call
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: you an a-hole, though. I'd call you a fool for
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: not just telling your daughter this earlier.
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think if you would have just told her
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: the truth, then she would have known, and then none
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: of this would have actually happened.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: But I don't know what the reason was for not
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: telling her.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you why.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: We read some stories like this the other day. My
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: theory would be it's that I'm a good person. I'm
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: a good person. So I need to make sure I'm
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: doing the good person thing because I'm a good person.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: And if I said this to my daughter and it
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: made her turn against her father, that might be considered
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: a bad person thing.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Nobody cares.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Do the thing that is the real thing, which is
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: if your daughter is.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: Like, oh, yeah, you ruined.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Everything was ruined because of you.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: If you would have.
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: Tried harder, I'd 12 is like a good age to tell,
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: you know, be like, hey, so your dad cheated on me.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an age where you can delicately explain, like,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: this is the reality of the situation.
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: If she was like anywhere under 10, then I'd be like, okay,
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to say anything, you know, that's going to,
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: you know, she doesn't.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: Really know what's happening.
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: But 12, I feel like you kind of know what's happening.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: And you got tricked by your ex into being like,
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: we shouldn't tell her that.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: That would be selfish of you. No, it wouldn't. No,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: it would not.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: And also the.
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: with a girlfriend texting you, like, good job.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: Ha ha ha. Like, something like that.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Like, ew.
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: Oh, God. I'd be like, wow, I'm coming over there
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: and knocking your teeth out.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, man. This is, like, you just
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: tell the truth. Let the truth be free.
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: I don't think, I think this was just a huge
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: reaction of, like, everything building up, obviously, and it just
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: came to a head, and you just exploded.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: I hate that you did that on your daughter, not your.
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: Husband, or ex-husband, because I feel like He really deserved it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: Not so much her. She was just, you know, the
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: she was what came out of all of this.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Those whole time you've been that meme of the dog
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: with all the fire and he's sitting there with his
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: coffee and he goes, this is fine. And you've been
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: like that for years. And then now you finally went.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: And now your daughter is like, that was crazy.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel bad.
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: I don't think it was right up your daughter to
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: make all of those remarks. But obviously what she's getting told,
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: she's just expressing.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: But we can't compare that your OP's baseline of emotional
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: intelligence to a 15 year old girl.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: No. You know.
• 46:03
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• 46:05
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• 46:07
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• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Update! Hello!
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Thank you everyone for your comments, even though I felt
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: some of them didn't really answer or understand the point
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: of this post. They all did say the same thing,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: even though it was understandable why I lost my temper
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't have, because I should not have even let
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: it get this far. Also, some of you think I
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: just randomly decided to pack my daughter's bags and send
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: her to my ex because I was angry. And while
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: that conclusion does make sense, because that's how I framed it,
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: my ex has my daughter on the weekends. All I
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: really did was send her to her father's house with
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: more clothes and a few hours earlier. However, that still
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: doesn't take away from the fact that I did throw
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: her out. Anyways, I took all of your advice and
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: called my ex-husband's brother and his husband yesterday afternoon. I'm
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: still very close with them, and I told them what happened,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: and I told them about how my ex has been
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: bad-mouthing me to my daughter, and she's been repeating the
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: same things he's been saying. They were both very angry
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: with my ex, and told me that me snapping was understandable.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Before this, I never told them about all she said
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: to me, just that she was giving me lip. I
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: told them about how I planned on reaching out to
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: my daughter via email that night, and that I'd offer
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: to meet with her today for lunch. They said they'd
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: be at lunch with me.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: And I said, okay.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: I apologized to my daughter in the email and told
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: her that I should not have lost my temper the
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: way I did and that I should not have told
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: her about her father's infidelity that way and that I
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: should have told her in the first place and been
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: upfront with her. I told her I would explain everything
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: to her tomorrow at lunch and her two uncles would
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: be joining us as well. She responded almost immediately and said, okay,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: can I come home tomorrow too?
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: And that broke my heart.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: But as selfish as it may sound, I didn't want
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: to live with her again just yet.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Oh. What? That's your kid. What?
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, also just pointing out that it sounds selfish doesn't
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: make it any less selfish.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: So you just to run this bag, you revealed to
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: your daughter in a theory that her father is actually
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: a cheater. Didn't know that has been probably thinking he's
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: the greatest for three years. The woman she's like low
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: key looking up to is a homewrecker. And then you're like,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: by the way, go, but go be with them now.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: And then she's like, can I actually come back? I
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: don't like being around them right now. My whole worldview
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: has crumbled to dust. You're like, no, I'm not ready.
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, it is kind of like a like a
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: reality check of being like, yeah, you thought you were
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: so high and mighty being 15 and, you know, thinking,
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: you know, everything, whatever. And then, boom, you get hit
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: with this bombshell. Yeah, I don't know.
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: I I don't know.
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: I don't think that what?
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Just let her come back. She's like,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: can I come back home? You go, yes.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: You delivered this news to her like in song format,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: like a Metallica song. It should have been Jack Johnson.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Should have been Banana Pancakes. You gave it to her
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: like heavy metal.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, but I don't know.
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: She was at her like last, like she was at
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: her wits end. And this girl just kept.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Going and going. You're 43. You're 43.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: You put yourself at your wits end by keeping this
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: a secret for three years for no reason.
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: I feel like.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: She did it to herself.
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I just feel like... my mom would
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: have reacted the same way. I've been.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Your mom sucks.
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: No, I've been crappy to my mom. Like when I
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: was like teenager.
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: Oh, my God. Did I hate her?
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: And that was just like me being like teenage girl
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: thinking I knew everything and like, you know, whatever, coming
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: at her because we were so similar. And I mean,
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: I would get, you know, like thrown out of the
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: house or, you know, like she would lock the door
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: so I couldn't get in. I have to go like
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: sleep with my friends or something. You know, like it
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: was like stuff like that. But like it was so
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: I would like learn a lesson. Like there's like, you know,
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: like don't talk back. Like don't, you know, do all this.
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: But I understand that like this is a huge revelation.
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: And she's like, oh, wow. But I think that it
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: will kind of shape her to be like, okay, maybe
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: I need to watch my mouth now. I don't know.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Everything that she was saying was based on the omission
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: of the information that OP was.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Not giving her.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: Yes, I know.
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: She should have said something.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Like, do you think your mom would have just ate
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: that if you were like, you're the reason dad left.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: And really, your dad had cheated on your mom. Do
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: you think your mom would have just went, I'll let
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: that one lay there. She would have gone, oh, let
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: me tell you about your dad. Right away, she would
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: have done that. It would have taken her three years.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: This person waited three years to do this. Yeah.
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: No, and I do think that's the problem. The overall
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: problem is that the truth should have came out, you know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: as soon as it was presented.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: Anyway.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: I responded back and said, we'll talk at lunch. I
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: see her in four hours. And there's another update after
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: the meeting with the daughter.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Hello.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: I had lunch with my daughter and my ex-brother-in-law's yesterday.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Ex-brother-in-law's husband drove to pick up my daughter while the
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: brother-in-law and I went to Olive Garden, me and my
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: daughter's favorite restaurant. I didn't go to pick her up
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: because she asked me not to come. When she arrived,
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: she gave me a hug and explained her father thinks
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: she's having lunch with just her uncle's. After we ordered
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: drinks and the waiter left, my daughter almost burst into
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: tears and apologized profusely. Some commenters said she would, but
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: I did not expect it at all. Of course, I
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: hugged her and comforted her and told her she had
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: nothing to apologize for and that it was my fault
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: for lashing out on her and that my anger was
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: mostly misguided. She told me she spent all of yesterday
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: and today studying and watching her dad and his girlfriend.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: She said that at first she didn't believe or not
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: believe me.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: She was just neutral.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: She came to the conclusion in her mind that he
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: was in fact cheating because of how comfortable they were
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: together and that they were like a couple that had
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: been together for longer than a year, according to her.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I don't know about their dynamic.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: But my ex and I divorced three years ago and
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: they had been together for two years before the divorce.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: So five years total.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: My ex only introduced his girlfriend to our daughter a
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: year ago and said it was new. So I guess
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: she was right. I pulled out a piece of paper. Yes,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: I had a whole piece of paper. I had too
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: many thoughts in my head and read from it. Essentially,
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: I told her about how I discovered her father was
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: cheating on me, how he pressured me into filing for divorce,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: and how he convinced me to agree to keep his
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: infidelity a secret. I told her how much her words
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: hurt me because her calling me ugly, old, fat, boring, plain,
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: these were all insecurities that I gained while aging, and
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: were made worse after finding out my husband had been
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: cheating on me with a younger woman. I told her
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: that even though I would never have tolerated her disrespect otherwise,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: I felt as though her and I were growing apart
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: and I was trying not to push her away. I
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: apologized for keeping this secret, I apologized for all our arguments,
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: and I apologized for blowing up on her and just
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: sending her away. I finished by telling her that after
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: knowing everything, if she wanted to adjust custody and live
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: with her father every two weeks.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Then she could.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't mention it in the post, but there were times,
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: albeit few, where she would imply she would rather live
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: with her father than me, but she never explicitly said it,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: so I didn't mention it originally. After I finished talking,
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: my daughter said she didn't want to live with her
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: father anymore, and that she wants to move back home.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: According to her, her father and his girlfriend.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Have no idea she knows.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: They just know that we fought yesterday and I sent
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: her to their house because it was a heated argument.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: She said they started bad-mouthing me again, but this time,
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: it pissed her off. She told me that she was
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: sorry for not being a good daughter to me, to
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: which I told her she was a good daughter, just
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: not always the nicest. I know a lot of Redditors
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: wanted me to stand firm and have her live with
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: my ex for a while, and a part of me
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: does too. because it is not fair for me to
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: have to shoulder all of the responsibility. However, some Redditors
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: offered some other insight that leaving her with a manipulator
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: for a month would be bad.
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: So I took one commenter's suggestion and decided to bring
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: her back home, but have her grounded for a month
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: to reinforce that her disrespect will not be tolerated any longer.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: We are coming up on the end of this story.
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: Truthfully, I don't know.
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: I think it all worked out.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: How did this guy have his hooks in you so
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: bad that even after he cheated on you and y'all divorced,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: you're like, I'll still listen to you.
• 53:59
  Speaker 7: He like pressured her for divorce and then also pressured
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: her not to tell, like, don't tell the infidelity.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: So like pressured you for divorce. Like, what else are
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: you going to do?
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: Maybe she wanted to maybe she wanted to fix things.
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: And he's like, yeah, no, I don't want to do that.
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: And she's like, oh, I guess we'll just get a
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: divorce then. Like maybe she wanted to work on stuff
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: is what I'm thinking.
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: But also, I don't know.
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: I think truthfully, this was just like a moment of,
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't say like a moment of weakness, like just
• 54:29
  Speaker 7: like a moment that like an aha moment of just
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: like everything has built up in these years. And that
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: rage was supposed to come out at the ex-husband. But
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: obviously this girl is here and she's bad mouthing you, whatever.
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: You're done, sick of it. All the insecurities, blah, blah, blah.
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: she word vomits all over this girl, then sends her away,
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: you know?
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: And I, and I don't think, I think she felt
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: bad after the fact.
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: I mean, obviously she did because she says that she
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: feels guilty and she wrote down all these things, which
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: I think was very nice of her to like go
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: to a lunch and, dish everything out and be like,
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: you know, all of this, blah, blah, blah.
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: Do you have any questions and whatnot?
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: I think that she, she didn't, obviously this was just
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: like a burst of emotion that she, it was bound
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: to happen sometime. It just so happened that it happened
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: to the daughter, which isn't fair to her. But also
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: I think now her daughter has a better understanding of
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: all that. I think this bottom line, she should have
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: said the truth from the beginning.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It all would have been the first time she
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: made any comments about about you being the reason that
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: this happened.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: It'd be like a, oh, I see.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: I see you've gotten some misinformation. Let's set the record
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: straight here. But, Opie continues, though I won't be a
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: complete butthead, she can still have her phone with her
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: and have it unrestricted, but she has to turn it
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: in before she goes to bed and she can't go
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: out with friends, but she can bring them over if
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: I'm home and she has my permission. Except for special
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: events like birthdays or such. I'm, Also going to have
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: her do more chores at home. But I will also
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: be spending more time with her and doing fun bonding activities.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: As for my ex and his girlfriend, I don't know
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: what I will do about that. Perhaps I will take
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: legal action against them. But my daughter and I have
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: yet to decide whether she wants to tell her father
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: that she knows. Yeah.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: And that is the end of that story.
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: And that's just another secret being held. It's like, I
• 56:19
  Speaker 7: don't know, now should we just be like, oh, by
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: the way, dad, I know that you're a liar and
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: a cheater.
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: Yes. I would want the rundown of all the lies
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: that he told her. I would be like, so what
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: does your dad say about me?
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: What does he say happened before we divorced?
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess I would want to be like, what
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: is he telling you? Like, what's going on over there?
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: Because obviously I'm not there to witness it. And obviously
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: they bad mouth me. I don't know their relationship. But
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: I know, you know, why they're together is because of me.
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: So, you know, I don't know.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe you guys should duel. But that's the end of
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: that story. We've got another one.
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: My sister begged for privacy over her exam results, but
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: our father told everyone anyway.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: That's kind of awkward.
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: My sister and I are twins and have just finished
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: high school.
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: Congrats.
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: Since we live in Greece, oh, the only way to
• 57:11
  Speaker 7: get into a state university is by taking the Panhellenic exams.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Whoa, what the heck is that?
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: For anyone that isn't familiar with the Panhellenic exams, I
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: hope I'm saying that right. I'd suggest Googling to get
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: the full picture. But basically, it's four separate exams on
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: four separate subjects, and your grade's average is the thing
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: that determines.
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: What university you get into.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: So ACT.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: ACT, SAT.
• 57:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: Okay, cool.
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: Now, if your average is lower than eight-something, then you
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: can't get into any state universities. I'd also like to
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: add that the Panhellenic exams are notoriously very hard and
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: very mentally draining for students.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Well, they want the best of the best.
• 57:55
  Speaker 7: The last few years, they've been relatively around the same
• 57:57
  Speaker 7: level of difficulty. But for some reason this year, they've
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: been like 10 times harder.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Pushing you to the edge. And the scores go from
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: 0 to 20.
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: Oh, so you need like an 8 something to get. Okay,
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: I feel like that's pretty reasonable.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: It's like the bell curve, I guess. Where everybody that's
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: near like 8 to 12, that's like the average intelligence.
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I would think.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Usually they like will... Make it harder if everyone's scoring
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: higher so that they can make the bell curve around
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: that 8 to 12 mark.
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: Now, my sister had a very specific university that she
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: wanted to get into that needs an average of around
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: 17.5 while I just took the exams because they made me.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, that's tough.
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: But since the exams were so hard, my sister doubted
• 58:48
  Speaker 7: that she could reach her goal and had made it
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: very clear that if she didn't, she wouldn't tell anyone
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: her final grades. By the way, this comes from CallMeHector,
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: and if you want to submit your own stories, go
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: to the r slash OKStoryTime subreddit. I'm Savannah.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: I'm Riley.
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: And we're here to talk about some stuff and get
• 59:04
  Speaker 7: some advice, but we don't have all the answers. We're
• 59:06
  Speaker 7: just going to tell you what we would do. Let
• 59:08
  Speaker 7: us know what you would do down in the comments.
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: As Opie says, yesterday we were supposed to have our
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: grades sent through an SMS, but they were never actually sent.
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: So my father, without our consent, went to the government's
• 59:20
  Speaker 7: website with our exam codes and looked up our grades.
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: He then came to my room and congratulated me.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: I see where this is going. I, of course, was confused.
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: About what the heck he was congratulating me for. And
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: then he told me that he looked up our grades
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: and that I have an average of around 10.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: All right. That's all right.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Okay. You are average. You are normal. You are neither
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: less than average or more than average.
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: You are just good.
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: He then told me that my sister's average is lower
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: than eight, and thus she can't enter university. Oh.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Dude, that's like 10 points away from what she really wanted. Oh, no.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: I told him that he shouldn't have looked up our grades,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: and he just left the room.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: Later, I- What?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: He's like, oh, you shouldn't have looked at that.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, well.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: He leaves. Okay.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Horror movie.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: Later, I found out that immediately after he saw our grades,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: he called my mom at work to tell her, then
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: told his mom, his aunt, his sister, and his brother
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: that we haven't even seen in like a year.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, wait until you have colon cancer. You are
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: not going to believe all the people I'm going to tell.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: Then my mom called two of her friends, her brother
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 7: and her mom, to tell them. When my sister finally
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: saw her grades, she didn't tell anyone, and although upset,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 7: she seemed relatively fine. That was until people started calling
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 7: her and telling her that it's okay And that she
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: can try next year. That made her explode. And she
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: started crying and screaming. Yelling that we didn't respect her.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: And that now everyone knows of her failure. And locked
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: herself in her room.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: Ugh.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: That is really hard.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Canon event. Is this a canon event for teenage girls?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: Canon event? What do you mean?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Canon's like something that happens to everyone. A canon event
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: for someone that plays volleyball is jamming your finger.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: I don't know if this is a canon event that
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: happens for every girl, but like people tell your family
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: your grades.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Not your grades, but tell a secret that you didn't
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: want other people to tell and you're embarrassed by it.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: Oh, well, that just depends on who you tell it to.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: You can't tell my mom anything because immediately she's going
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 7: to tell every single person ever.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: So, and same with my younger sister. Can't tell her
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: anything because she's the same way.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: She's like, oh, don't worry. I won't tell anyone.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, you've been in a position
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: where you've been embarrassed by information that has been leaked
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: by a family member.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: Oh, oh.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. To where like, my mom
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: has like.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 7: Told someone, I'm like, why are you telling everyone? Oh,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: I'm sure there has been. I don't really get embarrassed.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: That is true. She is pretty hard to get embarrassed by.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: I'm like, man, that's fine. I don't know. I don't
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: really get embarrassed.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: I then told my parents that they had no right
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: to tell people how she did after she explicitly told
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: them not to. They both got angry and told me
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 7: that it's their job to care about their children and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 7: that it's not their fault that people want to know
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: how we did. Even my older brother told me that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: her wish of not telling anyone was unreasonable and unrealistic. Yeah,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: the guy who you haven't seen in a year.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: You have a brother?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Who is that?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Who are you talking about?
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: Am I really in the wrong for defending her? No,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 7: she didn't want anyone to know her business.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: That's your twin, dude.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: That's your twin. That's your day one one.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: Your one one.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: Your day zero.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think that you were unreasonable for defending her.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 7: She didn't want anyone to know her grades. That was
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 7: her business. It's kind of like how.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Tell it.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, you found something.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: Here it is.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: She's about to share a life experience that happened to her.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: Well, no, but it's kind of like telling someone some
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 7: like health scare or something and you didn't want everyone
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 7: to know and now you know and then it's like
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 7: oh i tell someone this thinking like oh like i
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 7: don't tell anyone i would want to be the one
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: to tell people or something like that and then they're
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 7: like oh yeah sure and then boom boom boom boom
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: boom like everyone knows so like then everyone's calling you
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 7: texting you like oh my god are you okay yeah
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: and it's like i like that's my information to share
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 7: it's that's why they have hippo laws.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dang. There's got to be the equivalent of that
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: with education. I mean.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 7: There is something like that where you don't have to
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 7: share your grades or something.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: There's something like that. I think there is.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Update.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 7: I have good news and bad news.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: The good news is that my mom has since apologized
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 7: for the incident and my sister decided that she will
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: try again next year.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: Yay!
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 7: She also seems happier now and more relaxed. The bad news...
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 7: Is that today is the day that I was supposed
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 7: to get an SMS to tell me which university I
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 7: get into from the ones that I applied to. And
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: my father went to the government's website again while I
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: was sleeping because apparently in his head, two wrongs do
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 7: make a right. He then called me to congratulate me
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: only for me to go to the website and see
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: that I didn't get into any university that I actually wanted.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: He just wants to be supportive.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: He loves his daughters.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 7: But why? We already told you that that's not how
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 7: we want to find out.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Dad.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: Like, let us find out. I got into one for
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: statistics that my mom pressured me into applying to because
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 7: it's a good university. Then my dad has the balls
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: to tell me to not be upset about it. I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 7: don't even like math. I like computers.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: I don't even like maths.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Well, that's how they say it.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 6: Oh, dude.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: In another world, I am an accountant.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: In another world, I'm a vet.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: That does fit you. You look like you'd work really
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: well with horses.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: Specifically a horse vet.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 7: What the F am I going to do with a
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: statistics degree? Truthfully, I don't know. What do you do
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: with a statistics degree?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: You make up statistics. That's what they do.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Let's get 100 people together and see what they feel
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: about this. And then you post it online. God, dude,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: I don't like statistics.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: They're so inaccurate. A thousand people. You asked a thousand
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: people or you ask a thousand people that were free
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: and applying to a lot of different online stuff. Come on.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: I hate everything. I hate Greece.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: I hate the Greek education system. I hate the Greek government.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I hate my dad.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: I hate the Panhellenic exams. And I hope that every
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: politician that has ever helped make this effed up system
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 7: gets back. Brain illness?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Well, you are.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Tell me you're 19 without telling me you're 19.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: You are just going through it, Opie. I'm going to
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 7: disregard those last few lines because I know that you
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 7: didn't mean that.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: You're just going through a tough time. You just don't
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: want to do statistics.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 7: I get it.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: She's a teenage girl that doesn't want to be in STEM.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: And that's fine. You don't have to be.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: But the Greek government says I have to.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: The Greek government makes me do statistics.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 7: And every politician, apparently.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Opie.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: You poor thing.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, well, could you take the exam again
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 7: like your sister and get a higher score maybe?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: No, her life is statistic because she became one.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like just because you got accepted into
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 7: this statistics school doesn't mean that you have to now
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 7: be a statistic or I.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Mean you could be a goddess that's what Greece is
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: too you could apply to be that there's like there
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: hasn't been a good goddess in a while that's true Greek.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 7: Goddess run for that yeah I don't know I mean
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 7: I feel like there's a lot of other things you
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: can do you're just feeling all the weight of it
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 7: right now but I feel like once you once give
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: yourself like a week to you know be upset about
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 7: it And be upset about the world and your life.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 7: And then come up with a plan. Because that's what
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: girls do.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: That's what we do.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 7: We cry it out. We let all of our emotion go.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: So then we go, okay.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: Now that I have a clear mind, let's get to work.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Planning.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 7: And that's what we do.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Girl boss, let's go.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: I do like a good plan too.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 7: But that's the end of that story.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: We got comments.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: Oh, we're doing YouTube. That's the end of that story.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: And we got some comments.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: And we got comments from the episode, My Brother Faked
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Being Sick Distilled Decades of My Parents' Savings. That was
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: recorded August 21st of 2026. You remember that one? It
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: was pretty crazy. So basically, OP grew up as the
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: quiet one, always overshadowed by an older brother who got
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: whatever he wanted. When the brother developed real mental health
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: issues and struggles at his teen, their parents spared no
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: expense on the best private care. But somewhere along the line,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: he figured out how to work the system, refusing to
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: work or study, demanding steak dinners, new iPhones, MacBooks, even
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: a car. And every time the parents hesitated, conveniently timed
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: letter from his psychologist would appear justifying it all. For years,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: the money kept flowing until OP's dad lost his job.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: And if you want to find out more, go to
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: that story. We'll have it here in the link down below.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: We got comments. Comment number one.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: I did not read that story, but that sounds crazy.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Dude, it got crazy.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Comment number one from amanda jedden stories about terrible brothers
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: just make me more and more thankful for mine.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: True yeah i love my brother i'm.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Like oh my brothers weren't that bad yeah Susan 686A
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: says the entitled brother story is beyond wild. Opie needs
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: to sit down with his parents and tell them everything
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: and how unfair and absurd this is. Also, his psychologist
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: needs to be turned to the ethics board. Then find
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: your own place. Yeah, because the whole thing was the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: brother wanted Opie to go into this expensive living place
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: and cover half of the rent. He's like, I can't
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: afford that. Also have a girlfriend. I'm trying to move
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: in with her. Trying to squeeze it out of everybody.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: Dang. He's just a little greedy guy.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: It's Pavarti2515 says, first story, people with antisocial personalities are
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: not helped by therapy. It only teaches them how to
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: better manipulate people and fake emotions. You need some serious
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: lack of empathy to rob your own parents.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you do.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 7: I could never.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: I feel bad. I.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: I don't remember the last time I like asked my
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: parents for money.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: I asked my parents for cooking supplies.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: Cooking supplies?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: Mom, I don't have any pans or pots.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, like, that's cool.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 7: But it's like, I mean, I asked my mom for
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 7: like a, well, actually, no, I didn't even ask her
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 7: for a vacuum. I said I needed to look one
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 7: or I need to look for one. And then literally
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 7: the next week a vacuum shows up on my doorstep.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I think a parent relationship should be. Yeah.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: You say I need new knives and then they show up.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: That's like, Oh, I need a new pair of pants.
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  Speaker 2: They like buying stuff like that for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I'm just like, Oh, like I need to make sure
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  Speaker 7: that I go and get this because I really need
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 7: to get this. And then like all of a sudden, like,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 7: you know, a week later it's all my doorstep and
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 7: I'm like, oh my gosh, you didn't have to do that.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: I didn't actually ask her to do it. I just said,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: these are the things that I need.
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  Speaker 1: Not being like, oh, you need.
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  Speaker 6: To do this.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I manipulate my parents.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: Oh no.
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  Speaker 7: See, one time I did try to do that and
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: it didn't work. No, I was like, I really want
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 7: to do that because it was just like.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: A concert I wanted to go to or something.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Blew up in your face. I really want to go.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: My mom's like, yeah, it stinks.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the end of that story.
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